Luke, when gone am I... the last of the Jedi will you be...except for Ahsoka Tano, Ezra Bridger, Cal Kestis, Cere Junda, Quinlan Vos, Gungi, Oppo Rancisis, Ka-Moon Kholi, Selrahc Elous, Kyle Katarn, A'Sharad Hett, Wade Vox, Jorus C'Baoth, Vergere, and Ikrit. Oh yes and Tel-Rea Vokoss
>>747562208The last of the jedi can refer to multiple people, ESL
Hawks
>>747562518>The last of the jedi can refer to multiple people, ESLThis is cope.
Im ok with all jedi besides Tel dying
>>747562208Who the fuck is Gungi?
i would be very interested to know what george lucas considers canon in this fucking series with 347436748346 spinoffs
How do you respond without sounding like a goy?
>>747562208>Ahsoka and the Glup ShittosYes okay whatever, a handful of random jedi spread across the entire galaxy somehow make Yoda a liar. Ahsoka is the only valid example and we know why. >Cal Kestis The entire premise of the character's arch is his constant running from death by Inquisitor. >Quinlan VosUnsurprising that the guy who was a wilderness expert and was once seduced by the dark side was able to survive in hiding. > EzraBeing friends with a dead padawan does not a Jedi make. >C'BaothAre you seriously scrounging for examples from one of the most beloved pieces of extended canon? C'Baoth clone was on ice in a tuna can because the empire was going to use him. They're not going to kill useful assets.
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>>747563125Hawks is a manlet, right? But everyone still takes orders from him and respects him?
>>747563459He's as tall as most other characters
>>747563125>When I ragebait my giant togruta gf so she rapecorrect me
>>747562208>Kyle KatarnNot until after the movies.
>>747562208Finished this game the other day. Played on hard but should have played expert. I was so stupidly overpowered by the end of the game that the final boss battle was an absolute joke, got through the first phase on the first turn.
>>747563459Physical size and stature has little bearing on how effective a military commander is. I'm not sure what type of ethnic/third world brainrot you are afflicted with, but if you are actually confused, I suggest you open a history book.
>>747562954Gungi is Gungi!
>>747563125Hawks default face looks good. They shouldn't have wasted time and money on character creation if they weren't going to commit to quality and spare themselves some criticism.
Is she the biggest jobber in Star Wars?
>>747562208Assuming anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 Jedi, even if Order 66 had a 99% success rate that still leaves hundreds of survivors. Admittedly it is starting to get a bit comical just how many of there are. I like to imagine Palpatine just reading down the ever-growing list and going to Vader "Did you even kill *anybody* that night?"
>>747562208Ahsoka renounced the Jedi, larper.
>>747563459One of the greatest admirals in history who was universally admired and beloved by virtually everyone below and above him was a 5' 4" shortarse.
>>747564539>Be Jedi>Being hunted by the Empire>Get cornered by inquisitors/stormtroopers/vader>"Umm actually I renounce the Jedi, I'm not with them anymore">"Oh ok, you're free to go then"
>>747564606People were shorter on average back then though so what constituted a manlet was different.
>>747564606IIRC Archduke Charles of Austria was also really short. And then there's Napoleon himself. It truly was the Golden Age of Manlets.
>>747564606Wasn't he pro slave trade though?
>>747564678The average height was still around 5'7" or so, a man who was 5'4" still would have been considered pretty short. Also I'm not a historian or biologist but I'm pretty sure the low average height was the result of the lower classes being malnourished. So among Nelson's peers (the wealthy, the aristocracy, etc.) he definitely would have seemed extremely short.
>>747564741NTA but assumign that's true, it still wouldn't have been a super controversial position in his time. I believe Britain only formally banned the slave trade in the early 1800s, so for essentially Nelson's whole life he would have been supporting something that was perfectly legal.
>>747564341She didn't seem like much of a jobber an hour ago when she was tearing me a new asshole on DantooineFirst time I've taken multiple injuries in one mission
>>747564629well no, i don't think the Empire would buy that as an excuse, but i do think Yoda would have respected her alignment and not considered her part of the active Jedi roster when talking to Luke.
>>747564849He really managed to die at the best time possible as far as his legacy is concerned, on top of the perfect drama of being struck down at the moment of his greatest triumph he managed to dodge all the messy politics of the 1830s that other politically conservative war heroes like Wellington got mixed up in and tarnished their reputation from the point of view of people today looking backwards.
>>747562208Luke is the last one formerly trained.Refute this.
>>747564539>special snowflake mary sue gets to have her cake and eat it tooBig surprise.
>>747562208in the old EU the list was 10 times longer
>>747562208There has been ~10k jedi in the whole galaxy, including younglings and failures who sat in th library all day. Pulpy whacked 99% of them.
>>747566013What about Cal Kestis? He was even formally knighted by a Jedi Master.
>>747564341That would be Maul who didn't maul anyone except for Qui-Gon
>>747564678Holy fuck this place never ceases to amaze me with new retarded quotesSo you think humans grew on average 4-5 inches over two hundred years anon?
>>747566435Yes. Exactly that. With better nutrition.
>>747566358Zoomer Kyle Katarn games take place 10y BBY>>747566435People have access to better food now - so yes, they did
>>747564606Average height was like 5'6. Plus he was navy, being tall was uncomfortable in that environment
>>747563209So five Jedi?
Only two of those are canon. Anything with ahsoka in it is rubber ducky
>>747563106>implying lucas gives a shit anymoreAxtually, scratch that.>implying lucas ever gave a shitHe's too busy swimming in money to care.
>>747562208Only old republic era is good, before the rule of two sith.
>>747564685Napoleon was average height for his era.
>>747563219My headcanon is while Tognath have a poor sense of touch and don't really have sex for pleasure, they're extremely sensitive internally if you can stimulate them deeply enough, which tends to take them off guard when they have sex with other races like humans and find it intensely pleasurableAlso the Force enhances sex but we all know that already
>>747564685Pretty sure Napoleon was average or just slightly under average, and the idea of him being a a full on manlet is a leftover from propaganda
>Get to the part where Hawks gives his big speech about going after Fathom, one last time>Neesh speaks up!>And Meev!>And Runa!>And... Nobody else on the team, they just have Den dialogue afterwards like usual>And this is after the mission where you get trapped by Fathom and only Runa has anything to say about you showing up in time for the evacuationI really like this game but sometimes the cheapness really stingsLike I know the studio ran out of money but it hurts knowing they'll probably never go back and polish these thingsThey even did take the time to account for which characters are alive or dead in other places so it's not like they weren't thinking about it eitherWhy'd they have to kill Star Wars so hard in this timeline
>>747567510You can't even necessarily say they are Jedi. In new Canon, Yoda was probably able to sense Ahsoka and we know he made contact with Ezra+Kanan. But Ahsoka was not a Jedi anymore, Kanan was never a knight, Ezra wasn't even a real padawan, and C'Baoth was a deranged clone who was functionally dead until awakened. Vos was never particularly strong in the Force and was always depicted as something of an outlier in the Order even before turning to the dark side to stick his saber in Ventress's pussy, so it's easy to imagine Yoda couldn't sense him. Yoda is likely referring to Jedi not just as those trained in the Force, but those carrying the beliefs and culture of the old Jedi Order. As a religious or cultural institution, Yoda and Luke are the last. Luke had two legitimate Jedi Council members as his masters. Any remaining practitioners were independent worshippers without structure. Just as we can say the Sith were defeated even though Mara Jade lived past RotJ, because she was not a designated Sith. I'm not immersed enough to know the finer details of characters like Kestis or Katarn, as I already hate that I know this much. Star Wars is fucking stupid.
>>747562208And none of them would've been able to do the duty of a Jedi, which would be to stop the Sith and restore balance. Only Luke or Leia could've done that.
Mmhmm and where were these other jedi during the battle of yavin? The battle of endor?
>>747569943>Vos was never particularly strong in the ForceHe was, though. He was a Jedi Master with a seat on the Council, and he was picked along with Ventress to try and assassinate Count Dooku (Dark Disciple novel). They would not have sent someone who wasn't strong in the Force to assassinate a Sith Lord, and one of the top 5 lightsaber duelists in the galaxy.
>>747562208She leaves to go inspect some place at the end of the game where it's presumed she dies.
>>747563219I hope someone does animations for all the ZC girls, all those exertion noises they make in the game are a goldmine
>>747570347I read it but didn't remember him being an actual master. Anyway, I think he still can get a pass to Yoda because he was specifically chosen for that mission because he was considered "unconventional", generally better at physical combat, and considered a sacrifice who might have to do something approaching the dark side. He was functionally almost grey at the end of the novel and I could see how the dark side history helped hide him from both Yoda and the rest of the Empire.
>>747566435>So you think humans grew on average 4-5 inches over two hundred years anon?Actually yes. North Koreans are a couple inches shorter than South Koreans on average, despite being the exact same group genetically. That's what a mere 70 years of one side being relatively well-fed and the other half being chronically malnourished does.
>>747562208>Oppo Rancisis
>>747571307Is that a fucking Githyanki
>>747571404It's Sora Bulq, the fallen Jedi Master and expert lightsaber duelist that helped Mace Windu develop Vaapad. Vaapad is what ultimately made Sora fall though.
>>747562208You think the average person cares about all those literal whos?
>>747571540>Vaapad is what ultimately made Sora fall though.Thankfully Mickey Mouse will avenge him
>>747562208To be fair it would be incredibly easy to have Tel become disillusioned with the idea of the Jedi Order actually surviving the Empire and go from being an out-and-out Jedi to a more morally grey mercenary do-gooder with a lightsaber. Her deceased master even explicitly says that she was making very poor progress as a padawan and was far too reliant on the acceptance and praise of others, and when the Coil killed her master she immediately went rogue and embarked on a year-long solo quest to take down the Coil that was clearly motivated in no small part by a desire for vengeance against those who killed the one person who ever gave her a chance.She looks like a squeaky clean goody two shoes by the standards of Zero Company's collection of killers for hire, but by actual Jedi standards she's a pretty lousy Jedi.
>>747571729>morally grey mercenary do-gooder with a lightsaberso jolee bindo
>>747571404That's clearly a Weequay and that weird bearded snake guy on the Jedi Council
>>747571729Don't they cover this in her battle with the Inquisitor?>I may be a shit Jedi but I know the Dark Side is even more stupidShe even has a line afterwards where she says it felt nice hearing someone else say bad things about the Jedi, but then she thought about it for a second and remembered the alternative was worse
>>747562208ezra is literally like three days older than luke
>>747572293Jolee Bindo wasn't morally grey, a mercenary or a do-gooder.
>>747572534Believing that the Jedi are good and that the Jedi are dead aren't mutually exclusive.
For me, it's jedi master Shetan Dikni-Pallz..
>>747563524>He's as tall as most other charactersThat's not even fucking true, stop lying. He's shorter than all the women except the teenage bug. He's shorter than a fucking Asian woman!
For me? Master Glupp Shitto.
>>747572986Sorry, I interpreted your post as being more about the former than the latter, and more about the Jedi being good for her even if she's not good for the Jedi, rather than the Jedi being good in generalShe does express an interest in tracking down Jedi who might've also been deceived into Inquisitorial ambushes so I don't know if she'd give up on the Order that much, especially after Hawks' big speech about believing in somethingBut I haven't finished the game yet so maybe I'm completely off the mark again>>747573226For me it'shttps://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ima-Gun_Di
>>747562208all the comic books and and the jedi knight games that were around when I was a kid never made it feel like this was ever not the case. Unless you're a turbo boomer who saw rotj in the cinemas on release, thus isn't even true,, so why the larp?
>>747573720>a turbo boomer who saw rotj in the cinemasThe very first EU work, Splinter of the Mind's Eye, released after Star Wars (before it was ever A New Hope) in case the franchise never got another film but was popular enough to keep milking. And in that book Luke stumbles over a woman using the Force who offers to help teach him.So pretty much from the very start of Star Wars there has never been a time when Obi-Wan was the ONLY Jedi left in the galaxy.
>>747573484>But I haven't finished the game yet so maybe I'm completely off the mark againNo you're right, that is how Tel's story ends - she says that she wants to go track down other surviving Jedi, and Hawks basically tells her she's there's always a spot for her in Zero Company. I was looking at it from the point of view of Tel surviving to the time of the original films when Yoda does the whole "you are the last of the Jedi" thing that the OP talks about. The game ends one year into the Empire and a lot can happen in the two decades between then and the films.
>>747574210using the force doesn't automatically make you a jedi
>>74756220817 jedi left in the entire galaxy is not a lot
There were about 10,000 Jedi in the Galaxy when order 66 happened. Assuming a 99% success rate, which btw, is drastically more successful than any actual genocide in human history, that still leaves about 100 Jedi alive. Since we've only seen like a few dozen canonical survivors, there's still room for plenty more without it being a statistical failure for Order 66
>>747562518>You are the last of the few thousand Jedi. In fact, that's a fairly normal amount of Jedi. You are not a Jedi, now that I think about it. Too old to train under a master, you are.
>>747564341this is one of the two missions in the game I've had to restart once
>>747562518That's obviously not what he meant. You really think he meant "When I die the jedi will go from 14 to 13 luke ;("
Jedi isn't a job description, it's a title you need go be ordained with
>>747562208Game is pure kino. I don't bring the bug lady in my squad very often though.
>>747562208>Luke, when gone am I... the last of the Jedi will you be...except for Ahsoka Tano, Ezra Bridger, Cal Kestis, Cere Junda, Quinlan Vos, Gungi, Oppo Rancisis, Ka-Moon Kholi, Selrahc Elous, Kyle Katarn, A'Sharad Hett, Wade Vox, Jorus C'Baoth, Vergere, and Ikrit.>Oh yes and Tel-Rea VokossAnd baby yeed
>>747570934Double-speccing Trick into a Heavy has been very fun for me. Dude can ragebait fucking Droidekas out of position just by calling them names.
how hard is Expert compared to Hard? I'm trying to find exact number differences but nobody has them. Hard was a cakewalk and I'm thinking about replaying on Expert
I wish there was an Endless mode or some longer versionYou could have bosses show up like other Inquisitors hunting for Tel
You insincere anons went on and on about how you'd make your on all clone delta squad before release, yet zero pics provided of this.What, the game doesn't actually support this style of play? You gay.
>>747577281You can't colour commando armor. It can only be pure white - no teenage cloned ninja niggas for you.
>>747577281The Delta Squad mod only came out 4 days ago, give it a bitI kinda wish they had more Clone personalities than just 2 as well>>747577409And the tintable commando armor mod only came out yesterday
>>747562208I'm an Order 66 denier.
>>747577546Considering the amount of people who come back, you'd be crazy not to>You're telling me Darth Maul survived that? Fuck off.
>>747564484This wouldnt be an issue if they stayed FAR away from each other, the issue with writing stories about Order 66 survivors is that Disney and Filoni keep bringing them together and make it seem like the galaxy is not this vast, distant place and is more like a few planets bundled together with 2 hour flights separating each other due to how often crossovers happen, so it makes you question what the point of Order 66 is since theres nearly as many Jedi in hidding as Jedi we have seen active in Coruscant in the movies and tv shows.
>>747566414At least maul has killed jedi. Which is something no inquisitor has ever done.
>>747577409>>747577471is the gameplay varied enough to support all clome squads or is it just boring? I wish rhey'd have clones of different classes.
>>747577667The Darth Maul thing becomes even funnier if you've ever seen the commentary for Episode 1 where George basically says, "We cut him in half and had him fall down a bottomless pit so that people knew for sure he was never coming back."
>>747577994There are 8 specialisations and you get to have two per character later on, so you could have fairly varied clone squads on missions that don't require other characters being there (though you could dress Hawks up as a clone), on top of talents, weapon types, gear, etc.,The real issue is that clone recruits are unlocked 4/5ths into the game so you either wait for NG+ where they start unlocked or you settle for dressing up humans in clone armor (you do have better personality options that way at least)With mods you could theoretically have Jetpack Troopers too, but it's still early days so stuff like that is still pretty rare/WIP
>>747578434hmm, mixed bag then, wish they'd ask players or what they actually wanted sooner in development.
>>747578326The really funny part is that Lucas signed off on Palpatine coming back in Dark Empire years earlier
I wish this game had more to talk about
