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>Turtle WoW died for this
Turtle WoW died for this
>Turtle WoW died for this
Turtle WoW died for this
>Turtle WoW died for this
Turtle WoW died for this
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reminds me of azshara
balls deep animal fuck in tight elf pussy
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Turtle WoW was awful.
It is an irrefutable fact Turtle's admin is trans as well.
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>>747564158
cant tell me the devs didnt play turtle when they blatantly stole the camping/survival prof
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>>747564320
Yeah the new race are some Highborne that fled up and made deals with the air elementals.
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>>747564460
Same race, different deal then. They sure love milking the High Elves.
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>human but blue and with knife ears
Race design is my passion!
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>>747564158
turtlemods were scum so I don't care
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Why can’t they stand straight
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>>747564158
Remember when they used to put effort into new races like Worgen, Goblins, and Pandas?
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Good.
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>>747564557
It’s worse than that. They’re just palette swapped Blood Elves.
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>>747564460
>New race are some new never before seen elves from Shadowlands Skywall
Grim.
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>>747564689
>never before seen
That's the point of this game
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>>747564158
my gripe is just
why no horde race why this neutral bullshit?
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every wow private server is run by retards so I don't give a fuck
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>>747565103
'never before seen' wasn't even remotely alluded to as the point of the project by the game's producer Holly
Something which 100% contradicts what comes after classic doesn't line up with Chris Metzen's vision of the project
New massively out of place visually and in terms of the story doesn't line up with general player desire
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>>747564689
And putting aside that it's just made up on the spot and destroying any sense if verisimilitude - having entire new continents and races just show up without anyone in the setting previously having had contact or known they existed (I'll give them a pass in contradicting previous lore: it would have been a sound move to go back to vanilla or better yet WC3 lore, and that you don't see sky elves in Cata Skywall can be brushed off) - having that kind of special snowflakes as a playable race is nonsense. Following Arthas destroying Quel'thalas, there were maybe 10k high elves left, give or take, and the majority became blood elves following Kael'thas, some remained as high elves in Kirin Tor and Quel'Danil Lodge and as scattered diaspora within the Alliance, and so at best some hundreds became special snowflake elves. Even blood elves are starting to become a stretch - after all, you can't really be a nameless adventurer if through birth you are in such an exclusive group you'd be Kael'thas's second cousin and grew up knowing Lor'themar, but fuck, even if it wasn't for the fact that the game is scaled down 10-1000x depending on the location, a server could easily have more special snowflake elves than there exists in the lore! (To be fair, that is a problem with the New Horde too: a conflict with the Alliance just doesn't make sense on account of difference in numbers)
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>We have a TTRPG created in 2003 that has been worked on in collaboration with Blizzard's Chris Metzen and Bob Fitch, who gave us the idea of what they wanted for WoW, which was to give us High Elves and Goblins
>The community has begged for an Ogre race for the Horde since the inception of this game's existence, and ever since we got a hint of what the future Horde was in WC3 with Rexxar's storyline.
>They decided to give us a fucking pseudo-Pandaren race, something nobody in classic has asked for, of Sky Elves... called... LE SKYBORNE
This is what happens when you let females in your fucking offices deciding shit, pretending that their opinions matter.
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>>747565657
Sorry anon, the new races only exist to be transmog barbies and troon self-inserts on ERP servers.
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>>747565578
>having that kind of special snowflakes as a playable is nonsense.
This argument has always been complete nonsense since you can play as a warlock.
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>>747564460
so who thought it was a good idea that players want to play fart clouds?
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I'm glad that turtle is dead and I hope to see Blizzard dead
WoW is for boy-molesting faggots
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>>747564158
Anyone seen the dungeon footage for this shit? Unironically looks worse than the turtle wow dungeons.
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>>747565981
You think your own kind of pedo isnt equally deserving of a bullet in the head
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>>747564158
I don't know what this is.

I'm assuming something from Blizzcon. Could be retail. Or the other thing. Blood Elf customization options?
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How many flavors of elves in WoW are there now? 31?
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>>747564158
>blood elves but blue
Bravo blizztard
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>>747566170
everyone complaining about loli turns out to groom actual children
what's up with that?
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>>747564158
it's crazy how old and ugly wow looks now. the clothes are literally just a texture plastered onto the skin... even gachas feature actual 3d clothing..what the....
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>>747566271
If only there were multiple active threads that could answer your questions.
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>>747564424
project epochs launch was the biggest disaster ever. i was there in voicechat with ny friends waiting to play and it just never happened.
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>>747566424
>22 year old game looks old
Woah!
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>>747564158
turtle wow was trash. don't pretend that you even played it.
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>>747566170
welcome to 4chan newfag
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>>747564320
>tight
anon... I
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>>747564158
>can do a new race to attract people with new shit
>more elves
color me fucking surrpised
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it looks less gay than turtle wow at least
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>>747566394
projection?
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>>747566394
>>747566656
Lol i just dont mind reminding you that you should kys for being a mindbroken degenerate
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>>747565103
No it fucking isn't
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>>747566424
>>747566571
It's not ugliness, it's model re-use. They were doing that shit all the way back in vanilla with end game tiers. Only your shoulder and helmet were actually unique new models.
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>>747566789
you are the one that sees a little girl and thinks of sex
you are the degenerate one
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>>747566571
These aren't the 22 year old models and textures, in fact the 22 year old models and textures look better than this.
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I think the most retarded fucking thing I heard from a Blizzdrone in another thread to defend the faggy diarrhea blue elves was that they can be made with white skin, thinking it will bring out the aryans in defense.

Blizzdrones really are the most ratshit people to walk this planet.
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>>747566571
>multibillion corporation can't do more than bare minimum, or even more than free private servers did with 5 NEETS in improving old game

Really pathetic yeah
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Why would sky elevs join the horde?
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>>747566789
another nofap zoomer purist tourist, go back to /reddit/
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>>747564158
Finally. Elves that look as gay as they actually are.
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>>747566889
The type of people that still want to play WoW in 2026 will eat whatever slop is shit on their plate.
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>>747566692
Do you really believe with all the shit she can do that she can't make it tighter than a chinese finger trap?
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>Tieflings: blue
:O
>Elves: blue
: /
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udQhEKs_krg

Jesus H Christ

>those comments
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>>747566739
How come dwarves were the ones to unanimously benefit from the model update? They and orcs were also the first to be shown off.
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>>747567036
this is what happens when technology starts doing the heavy lifting rather than the art style
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>>747566898
SHUT UP, STOP ASKING QUESTIONS, AND PAY 30 DOLLARS!

WE DIDN'T ADD THEM TO HORDE BECAUSE WE ARE AGREEING TO PRETTY PRIVILEGE/BIAS EITHER, OR BECAUSE OF HOW IT CAN INFLUENCE THE JUDGMENT ON FACTION SELECTION! TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS! UGLY TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN!
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>>747567048
>unanimously benefit
But it doesn't, it looks worse
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>>747565578
desu that was already a problem with death knights and demon hunters.
doesnt mean that the mistake should be repeated though.
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It doesn't matter what blizzard makes. Their policies and lack of enforcement forever ensure that the experience is polluted and ruined by the worst people possible.

As long as swarms of gold farmers and RMTers exist, as long as gold buying is prolific, as long as GDKP is allowed, as long as boosting is allowed, all blizzard wow experiences will be absolutely putrid.
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>>747566739
Imma be honest, if they added 'nilla Dark Irons I'd resub. They, I know they're in retail but I don't wanna play retail. I want Dark Irons in vanilla nigga ice ice baby
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>>747566449
I didn't ask any questions. Nor am I inclined to go into those other threads.
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>>747564158
and that's a good thing
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>>747566739
Fucking amazing
Add it to the list
This image never fails to make me depressed
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>>747566449
Y'know, looking back on it, none of those other threads mentioned it, it's just this one
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I hate sky elves as much as the next guy but private server fags have no right to complain when THAT one had turtle mounts everywhere starting at lv20 (if not lv1 can't remember, with scaling speed).
That alone was beyond destructive enough, I don't need to mention a single other thing. Absolute epidemic. Lazy fucks couldn't be bothered to get a normal mount at 40 so even as I neared the end of both my leveling and patience, the turtles wouldn't cease.

I really want a fucking Gobo but I'll take the paypiggy gay elves (to laugh at) over 24/7 turtles on all races, factions and all points of the game.
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>>747567807
Belfs and their consequences have been disastrous to the horde player base.
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>>747564158
>dwarves but grey
>humans but fat
>elves but blue
>elves but crusty (also turn into a scalie's idea of a dragon)
>dwarves but crusty
>elves but another shade of blue
For a company raking in almost $4 billion a year they sure are lazy.
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>>747566789
>mindbroken
loli generates infinte (You)s in threads for troonslop games like WoW
tis not I who ismind broken
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This looks like Blood elves with blue paint. WTF Blizzard. Not like they're relevant anymore anyways.
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>>747564158
What's Turtle WoW? What did they make and design?
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>>747564158
>That'll be $29.99 + monthly tip!
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>>747568620
vanilla "plus" server run and played by troons
constantly advertised themselves on /v/, then ban evaded to advertise more
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>>747564158
>advocates for non-binary shit
>only two "body types" available
The jokes write themselves.
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>>747564158
I would try playing this if they had no new races instead of this. I would check it out if they added murlocs and they were just the regular murloc model. What the fuck were they thinking? Fucking pandas are more lore accurate and fit in better. I would have rather they removed two races than add one OC donut steal one.
Never touching this shit even if it blows up and gets hailed as the greatest iteration of wow. They lost me with this. At least I can rest easy knowing they are paying 30 dollars to play a 24/7 humiliation ritual.
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>>747564424
there's no way you still unironically support or like Epoch after the absolute disaster that it turned out to be
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>>747564439
everybody stacking themselves under a tent in the middle of town instead of using the inn 10 feet away was soulless as hell
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>>747568620
>>747568695
Nice samefag Ranjeet, not buying your Retail minus though
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>>747568271
Yeah but it got girls to play horde, and girls are the target demographic of blizzard.
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>>747568760
Yeah there is if you judge the game by the game instead of the initial launch server instability
>expecting principled logic from some poor 2nd worlder turdle WoW player
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>>747567036
>DUUUUUUUUUUUDE FOOOOGG LMAOOOO
still looks nice tho, but hope there is a fog slider
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If they REALLY had to give both faction a new elf race they should've given High Elf to the Alliance and Forsaken Elf to the Horde and made them start with the Humans and Forsaken respectively. There wouldn't even be a need to spend dev time and resources on a useless starting zone this way.
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>>747569361
the "devs" didn't have, at any point, any idea what they were doing
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>>747564158
if Alliance is getting Dalaran, what city is the Horde getting? anyone know?
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Honestly didn't think Blizzard was still relevant. Blizzcon came and went and I didn't even know about it.
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>>747564674
It's even worse than that, they're just palette swapped blood elves that cost $30.
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>>747564158
Why the FUCK did they decide to introduce a race out of the blue when Forever is supposed to be a continuation of classic? Why not just make them high elves? Why foul things up with this new lore before they even properly establish the game?
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>>747564158
Who even gives a single shit about this?
If you still care about WoW in the year of our lord 2026 you deserve every single terrible thing that happens to you.
Now please die of cancer.
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>>747564158
conquest of azeroth died for this?
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>>747569770
Man you're so lucky I can't log into both servers to take a screenshot of the absolute garbage that was in Turtle and compare it to Epoch.
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We Reboot now
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They killed Ascension for this dogshit. It's unforgiveable (unless WoW was free to play).
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>>747569984
The Hamplanets and Trannies working at Micro Acti-Blizz loved to have their ERP goon race. Its the reason why they love TBC and not Classic and the reason why they need to have a Belf equivalent in C+ so they can ERP with their Vulperan friends.
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>>747567036
>gay fog everywhere
So this is what zoomers consider "good looking" uh?
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>>747570342
>I'd eat literal shit if it were free
Lol being a p.server player is so sad. Second worlder or Turd worlder?
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odds of them injecting fag shit into it?
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>>747564158
WHAT IF WE PUT BLUE NIGGERS INTO WORLD OF WACRAFT AND CALL IT (((CLASSIC)))?!
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>>747566889
The type of people who still want to work at Blizzard are equal to the 50 year old Boomer working at McDonalds.
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>>747572880
Did you even see the trailer? It's already fag shit.
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>>747572880
>Odds of a company who already injected fag shit into WoW injecting fag shit into WoW?
lol
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Whiny faggot thread #3000
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>>747572880
somewhere between 99% and 101%
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>>747567807
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>>747572880
even without gays i hate how cunt centric the game is, it's always about a cunt
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>>747572880
>New Timeline = Everyone is gay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKKj3DmaXNQ
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>>747567807
This. Its like they made classic for the same degenerates that already play retail. Nevertheless, its just one class and I hope the 10 man dungeons are fun. I dont have hope for the writing but maybe some of the new zones will be cool. What im trying to say is, just give us classic and dont get in the way blizzard
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>>747575283
>that part where Garithos' original personality resurfaces
This is pretty funny
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Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in WoW elves?
>high elves
>blood elves
>night elves
>void elves
>nightborne
And so on and so forth. And now there are Skyborne too?
I was under the impression from WC3 that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>Skyborne
How are there so many talentless hacks getting hired in the video game industry? Would it really be that crazy to apply or do they only hire devs?
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>>747564158
not just turtle wow, but all iterations of classic died for this. no one will continue playing classic, tbc, or mop. when this dies, all of classic dies with it in one fell swoop.
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>>747564158
Turtle was garbage and just a rebranding of Rebirth, which was also garbage.
>>747564424
Epoch was also a dumpster fire.
>>747575283
Honestly woulda been fuckin sweet if they started doing this tandem development with warcraft 3 from the start, expanding lore using warcraft 3 expansions and then letting us play through setpieces in WoW.
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>>747578171
Hell yeah brother, I can't wait to see modern 2026 Blizzard devs expanding upon the flawless creative lore that is Warcraft :D
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You say this, but I already know you are building a blue elf folder on your computer RIGHT. NOW.
NEVER ask a elf hater the race of his virtual wife
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>>747578521
heh, ya right.
*rolls dwarf/human warrior, male*
Gamin time.
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>>747577512
A lot of non-elf races are playable despite being near extinct, almost non-existent or will never recover like the lightforged draenei or the wandering isle pandaren. Void elves are in the single digits population wise, but were added to the game as a compromise to the High Elf beggars.
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>>747564158

>that'll be $30 plus tip sir!

And Blizzfaggots are actually defending it too. "Hurr hurr what are you, poor?" and they'll be singing the same tune once Blizzard eventually starts putting raids behind paywalls.
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>>747567036
>Here is your "dark shore", bro.
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>>747578996
There have been people who bought every micro transaction since sparkle horse. It's the same in ff14. I know people who buy the deluxe edition of every game they come across even if only playing for a few hours. I get called the villain if I say the dude shouldn't buy the $20 skin for the stupid $5 friendslop were going to play on a whim.

I don't fucking get these people unless they're tranny erpers then it's makes total sense (ff14 erpers buying 10x gender change pots on the regular a month).
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>>747568857
gratz on the two digit IQ, you must have read an entire book
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>>747579017
Looks great, can't wait
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>>747567807
>naga and raped dragons
u people are retards honestly
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cant wait for the questline where you attend thralls gay wedding to a tauren chieftain
and instead of a kiss he gets fucked so hard that his asshole prolapses while all the attendees clap and cheer
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>>747564158
Seems you can make them look like high elves/blood elves during character creation, i suppose Blizzard wanted to shut up both the crowds begging for those in the game while making some cash.
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95% of skyborne are gonna look like this and spam have agarthan meme names
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>>747564158
Why are WoW threads always so weird? Is everything non-anime on /v/ like this these days?
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>>747564460
I'm waiting for the Ocean Elves who lead a secret war against an unknown new Naga faction for centuries.
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>>747579017
that's one of the good ones. thunder bluff looks like dogshit
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>>747564158
Blue is better
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>>747579017
>nu-lighting hitting a skull with 19 polygons
>the murlocs in front of the carcass look like black blobs
i hate everything
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All my friends are hype and we're going to have a good time, just as we did during Vanilla Classic. I don't care that your deviantart OC donutsteel Pserver died as a result. The blue elves are lame as fuck though. Should have been Ogres and High Elves
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>>747565869
Suck my nards, Warlocks are commonplace since the Legion's second invasion, if not moreso after its THIRD invasion. Warlocks were hiding all over the world after the WotA and the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and War of the Satyr made it even worse. Pretending Warlocks are snowflaked is like pretending China is inhabited by pure Han chinese.
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>>747584790
Nah you're wrong.
Paladins, shaman, and mages are rare too.
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>>747566424
blizztroons think this is normal and acceptable because they're mentally stuck in 2004
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>>747585334
i wish they were mentally stuck in 2004 before intersectional feminism
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>>747569007
Time is a flat circle.
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>>747572880
what the fuck do you think?
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>>747585514
>Turn off transmog so they look like a clown anyway
mogged all the way down
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>>747585745
That cannot be real. It doesn't even fucking fit in the game. That must be an AI edit.
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>>747564424
it is also an irrefutable fact that 60% of blizzard employees are blue haired faggot rainbow capitalists. turtlewow was free and i never ever noticed any unfitting faggotry in it. could care less what the admin was when i dont notice it in the content itself.
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>>747564424
Now you can support an entire dev team of troons instead of just the admin, this is such an improvement.
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>>747565120
because they regret calling it world of WARcraft. we are all friends because yidsney said so.
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>>747585745
>actually titled it a Gaystrider
The gall of these modern devs.
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>>747565657
they even wanted to give us ogres along with vanilla and then iirc cata was also going to add them. they literally were at the forefront of consideration for years, but they just never EVER do it for some reason. i used to dream of this image but we live in such literal gay and lame times, that its now a pipedream.
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>>747585745
>>747585847
>>747585969
It's fake.
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>>747571679
made by gen x'ers and millennials, but ok. keep pretending like you know my generation because the israeli ragebait algorithm told you so.
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>>747586154
great. don't you love blizzard marketers and their cultist drones trying to water down the shitposting with misinfo?
you don't hate blizzard enough
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>>747567048
i disagree. old dwarves looks like hard as stone freakazoids. now they look like literal homosexual bears.
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>>747585184
>Paladins, shaman, and mages are rare too.
Order of the Silver Hand, Argent Crusade, Scarlet Crusade too if you want to split hairs.
Each human kingdom had its own mages and Dalaran city was entirely populated by them before it got flyswattered. Nethergarde Keep is its inheritor and it still has plenty, and the Mage District in SW is lousy with them.
Shaman are literally everywhere and grugtier furbolgs have them as spiritual leaders.
Your bait is bad and you should feel bad, next time tell me Druids are rare and I'll agree with you.
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>>747575420
i really do think that they made this retail minus for the retail crowd to get into classic. its not for the classic fans. they are trying to somehow merge two very notably diametrically opposed fanbases into one experience. its retarded and, dare i say it, GAY!
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>>747564158
I didn't even know that turtles played.
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If the healing/spell casting gear changes are true along with the Holy tree changes, leveling HPal might be fun.
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>>747586108
>ogre
>can be a demon hunter
???
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>>747586245
I'm a little lost. Are you saying the fake gayhorse image was actually a falseflag by blizzard shills?
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>>747578521
speak for yourself. i have never played a female character nor an elf in wow ever.
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>>747567048
They don't, all their faces lose personality by looking the same (rape face gone too), and their animations look disney bouncy, pure dogshit.
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>>747564460
No they are trolls* that made deal with air elementals, they are using the Haranir retcon.
WoW Forever is Retail down to it's bones

Retail engine
Retail developers
Retail story
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>>747578521
the only good looking males of wow are undead and orcs
not my damn fault
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>>747565103
no it isn't, people wanted the good stuff from the expansions added into the classic world without leaving the classic world
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>>747584004
>nu-lighting hitting a skull with 19 polygons
this is the thing that i hate so much about so many modern games. they are addicted to adding volumetric fog and per pixel lighting or path traced lighting or whatever just looks so garish and shitty. like a nasty skyrim ENB mod or ugly ass fucking machinima from 2010. its so unappealing. actual vanilla has such an aesthetic cohesion, while here we get these clashing technological generations that just looks completely retarded.
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>WE NEED THE PRETTY ELVES IN THE HORDE BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY AS AN UGLY CREATURE! ALSO, TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!
And what were the people in Horde Classic playing????
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>>747585514
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>>747586348
>you not prepared....
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>When gear drops in a dungeon everyone in the group automatically unlocks it for transmog so you won't lose upgrades to faggots that want them for the appearance

Thank god
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>>747586557
what i never understood about this argument is, why the fuck couldnt they just play on the alliance then? just fuck off and leave us in the horde alone.
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>streamer just accidentally confirmed there is no non-HD model for skyborne
it's so fucking over, imagine how jarring it's going to be. skyborne will be the most popular race and they will be everywhere, clashing with your toggled-off SD graphics. they couldn't spend 10 extra minutes changing the color of the TBC-era blood elf model so there would be a SD model. unironically it is over due to this decision, you can tell they don't want to support "old stuff" at all and probably don't even understand why people like it.
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>>747572880
1000%, look at the gameplay, it's retail's engine, not classic, retail developers are making it
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>>747578521
>You say this, but I already know you are building a blue elf folder on your computer RIGHT. NOW.
>NEVER ask a elf hater the race of his virtual wife
no one has a nightborne folder you retard, skyborne look awful, they look like the human form of the dracthyr
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>>747586557
it was awesome how, back in the day, Horde/Alliance were kind of self-segregated by this simple fact. Horde consisted more of weirdos who liked playing ugly, disgusting, monstrous characters. Alliance were goody-two-shoes. It was genius, and it actually meant the two factions had distinct cultures outside of game.
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>>747586749
"Classic" was always vanilla WoW emulated through a Legion classic.
"Classic" was always less than the most easily-accessible vanilla server.
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>>747572880
have you even looked at the new race? 30 dollars paygate btw
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>>747586838
Legion client* lol
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>>747586557
myself undead and trolls
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>>747582675
Merfolk were hinted at in Ulduar during Wrath of the Lich King.
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>>747586985
that's a titan retard
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>>747584664
>me and my loser friends are hype and we're going to have a good time being faggots in retail-
have fun bro lmao
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>>747567373
>I didn't ask any questions.
Then why did the post end in a question mark?
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>>747587024
Titans have legs.
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>>747586985
loling at you
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>>747585894
No one who works at Blizzard is a capitalist.
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I miss epoch and ascension and there are not other private servers that can scratch the whole classic+ itch
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>>747586557
for me
orc warlock
troll mage
tauren shaman
undead priest
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>>747586838
WoW forever is literally the retail engine, engine, not client, the engine, all the math, the systems, it's retail
It plays different, a bunch of the streamers are already mentioning how it doesn't feel right, it's because it's retail
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>>747564158
turtle and ascension had to die for this because they knew nobody would play this tranny garbage after spending more than 5 seconds looking into this garbage
this shit will be dead in a year
fucking paywalled races what a joke
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>>747586557
Most horde players in Classic (2019) played female orc or female troll.
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>>747586154
I mean FFXIV added mount almost visually identical to that a month or two ago. Combine that with the fact that the WoW team is 1000% gayer and woker than the FFXIV team and I can see why people would assume it was real.
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>>747586557
they weren't, they were stuck on retail. that's bad for blizz because it means less profits.
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>>747564158
turtle WoW died because shenna wanted it to die
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>>747587368
and we know blizzard copies shit from their competition
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>>747587090
yes they are. stop being so american that you think leftism is when gay.
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>b-but it could've been le real!
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>>747564158
Good. Fuck you, thirdie. I hope all your private servers and emulators die so you're forced to interact with your "countrymen".
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>>747587582
>newfag defended his favorite megacorporation
LOL
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It's a total joke they still charge a sub fee for this.
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>>747587582
>lets bobby kotick cum in his mouth and he asks for seconds and pays him for it
grim.
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>>747586557
in vanilla all the (real) women played either female undead priest or female tauren druid
either one or the other. no exceptions
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>>747587368
>I can see why people would assume the shoddy looking image was real
Fuck off. This board is such a shithole these days because so many retards take things at face value instead of taking 5 seconds to check if something is fake or not.
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>>747585954
None of those people look like troons. They just look like silicon valley employees doing the whole pride month virtue signalling crap.

Oh wait, there's no difference. My bad.
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>>747568840
But the Inn won't give you an hour of rested XP gains in 15 mins
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>>747587698
>stay at home mom that mained female tauren and had 100 alts
how did every guild have one of these?
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>>747587654
a sub fee? they are charging $30 for early access and an extra $30 dollars for the new clown race
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>>747587808
just because they look like men doesn't mean they think they're men
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>>747586269
>Dozens of burrow dens full of druids unmolested by genocides unlike the other classes
???
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i always assumed classic+ means just some extra dungeon and raids(maybe slight qol changes).
when did it become change everything but the level cap is still 60 so its basically still vanilla wow.
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>>747588079
Classic+ is whatever I want it to be and retail is whatever I don't like.
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>>747567048
I was compelled to race change my dwarf after the model update because the animations were changed to look stupidly bouncy and light, absolutely destroyed the dwarf aesthetic
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>>747586348
Dude imagine if one head were a demon hunter while the other is a paladin holy faaaark that'd be sick
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>>747588079
>when did it become change everything but the level cap is still 60 so its basically still vanilla wow.
When the modern devs started seething at the success of classic, so they decided to rape its corpse and make it "theirs".
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>>747588157
you got off better than tauren and trolls did
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>>747564158
Ascension WoW completely mogged this with 21 new classes, really well-done revamped zones, new racial customization, and the best new zone since Grizzly Hills. Why would anyone pay a monthly sub for the privilege of playing this minimum-effort slop?
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>>747588247
all those races
no balance
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>>747586557
Female forsaken are cuter than Belf slags anyway
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>>747588273
classes*
oopsie
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>>747588273
>le balance
imagine being this much of a fucking retarded cuck its insane. it was also subject to change, but got shut down like a month after launch by the multi-billion dollar indie company preasu undastandu!!!
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>>747588247
>Why would anyone pay a monthly sub for the privilege of playing this minimum-effort slop?
why do you think blizzard had these servers executed just in time for Forever's announcement?
They knew they couldn't compete with them. They would ignore them like they do 90% of all other pservers if they weren't scared.
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>>747588273
balance is the funkiller
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>>747564158
>We need to add elves to the Horde. There's no way this project is getting greenlit unless you give the Horde their own pretty elf race.
Oh well so do you want to just do blood elves and draenei again-
>No, it's just going to be one race of elves. It needs to be a race that can be on both factions.
Well, how about High Elves for Alliance and Blood Elves for Horde? You can have them start in the same zone and-
>INTRODUCING THE BLUESKY ELVES! THEY LIVE IN A FAIRY TALE PRINCESS KINGDOM IN THE CLOUDS! THEY'LL USE THE BLOOD ELF MODELS ANYWAY BUT THEY CAN BE ALL THE COLORS OF THE RAINBOW
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>>747588324
always were
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>>747588273
they released it ahead of schedule because they knew they were going to get cease-and-desisted
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>>747588247
>21 classes
All just minor variants of the existing classes.
>Revamped zones
Retail assets slapped all over the place
>New racial customization,
It's all just recolors.
>New zone
Completely AI generated.

Ascension was hot fucking garbage made by cynical bastards looking to make a quick buck. You didn't even mention the unbelievably pay to win cash shop. Stop lumping it in with Turtle.
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>>747588584
>All just minor variants of the existing classes.
LMAOOOOOOO easiest way to out yourself as having not played it
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>>747588247
Too bad its dead LMAO
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>>747564158
I wish I could say that a $30 DLC locked race would be enough to make people demand Blizz rethink things, knowing that this will only get worse, but then I remember that like 10 million people bought a $100 reskin mount.
Blizz bucks are genuinely subhuman and should have all rights to voting and driving and property ownership revoked.
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>>747588584
>You didn't even mention the unbelievably pay to win cash shop. Stop lumping it in with Turtle.
KEKAROO you mean the one thing they had in common?
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>>747588674
im playing it in my mind right now
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>>747564158
Uhm, you shouldn't expect a multibillion dollar company to be able to make a better product than some nerds in their moms basements.
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>>747588726
one was a free server by a handful of fucking neets.
one is an official server by a literal multi-billion dollar company with thousands of employees
to equate them is literally fucking insane.
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>>747588801
paid marketers everywhere
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>>747588641
>unholy death knight, but it's its own class
>fire mage, but it's its own class
>shadow priest, but it's its own class
>demon hunter
>druid but poison
>shaman but poison
>druid but with hunter pets
>death knight but with a scythe
>arcane mage with clocks
>paladin
>hunter x balance druid
>elemental shaman but without fire and earth
>paladin
>hunter but with bows
>mage but with a sword
>demon hunter but with fire
>protection warrior, but it's its own class
>hunter but with guns
>hunter but with crossbows
>blood death knight, but it's its own class
>fury warrior, but it's its own class
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>>747588079
They had to remake classic in the retail engine in order to properly monetize it like retail, that's why all the changes are happening.
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>>747565657
belf model is already done and easiest for their dummies to work with + the most guaranteed way to drag in retoilet players
orc model means way more work for them because they would have to fuck with everything like tauren
not saying this is a good thing, im just saying why it is
they should just suck it up and do it
they already did this shit with mechagnomes
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>>747588992
schizo
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>>747588235
Troll chicks got it good but... man. I pretty much immediately deleted the troll guy I was leveling. They fucked up the running animation somehow and I just couldn't unsee it.
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Can't wait for this to come out and 50% or more of Horde players swap over to this, despite all the classic "purists" screaming about how no one likes it.
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>>747564534
>>747564460
They had to give Horde a "pretty race" otherwise you'd have a repeat of the past where Asians refused to play the faction wholesale.
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>>747567807
it is crazy how after all that time they could not be bothered to add Taunka and Yaungol face options to the Tauren race. it's such a minimal effort thing to add depth to an existing race.
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>>747589049
>never played the game
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>>747589124
>50% undead paladin
>50% blue elf
How horrifying.
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>>747588584
>>747589049
Like those other anons said, you didn't play it, they played very differently than you are imagining, a lot of them had 4 different specs at one point, all of them played vastly differently than anything in classic or even retail.

Barbarian support had some stuff from Brewmaster, but 70% of it was completely unique.
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>>747565301
You know that Kalimdor and Northrend were asspulls as well, right? At least Pandaria had the excuse of being magically hidden, but the Alliance has STEAM POWERED SHIPS and HELICOPTERS and you're telling me they somehow missed a few continents?

Let's be clear - the entire setting has always been built upon a mountain of retcons.
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>>747589190
Why would anyone want to when it's just unfettered slop? I bet the classes were AI generated too, because how the fuck do you look at this and think they're two different classes?
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>>747589124
classic players are not paying for this dogshit, only retail players are
retail's blizzcon announcements was so barren that they are just adopting wow forever until retail gets fixed
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>>747589124
the only reason they will jump is because of the OP racial they gave undead
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>>747589049
>I looked at a screenshot therefore I understand the game
leave this board please
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>>747589307
Because Templar is a Rogue. Knight of Xoroth is a demo lock. You aren't wrong things are similar but you're so retarded you're hung up on aesthetics.
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>>747589307
are you not familiar with classic dnd tropes? those are paladin and cleric stand-ins.
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>>747565657
>>747586108
>why isn’t blizzard making a race nobody will roll
>instead they can make millions on generic elf

The game is still a business
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>>747589326
Shut the fuck up your delusional esl retard
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>>747589373
>D&D did it so it's okay
This argument applies to blue elves.
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>>747589124
Knowing what I know from private servers the Horde is going to be 90% blueberry elves and undead ret paladins.
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>>747565657
Anon, haven't you played The Frozen Throne? The Blood Elves ARE the High Elves.
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>>747586538
Oh yeah, sure, it's the lighting that's the problem. Especially that pesky per-pixel lighting (tech from 2003 btw). Yep. Definitely not the dogshit lowpoly models and low quality textures they've been too lazy to update and improve or anything.
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>>747586557
Adding Blood Elves to the horde was a fucking mistake and I stand by it. Makes 0 sense that they would seethe at the alliance and give up their long standing friendship just because of 1 racist commander but gladly join the orcs trolls and undead who have killed so many of them. I know in WC3 they joined illidan but never made sense for them to join either horde or alliance at that point and if they had to join 1 it was obvious they should have been alliance.

But horde needed pretty human looking people for fags to play as IG.
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>>747564158
Blizz are well and truly out of ideas.
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>>747589481
you are being disingenuous
the point is it's normal to have more than one holy magic class. WoW already does with pally and priest and they are plenty distinguishable from one another.
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>>747587807
not like blizzard added gay shit to their games before right?
fucking bootlicker
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>>747580470
>brown elves
Retail 2.0...
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>>747586557
This is correct >>747587345


People will NEVER play ugly races
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>>747589560
>But horde needed pretty human looking people for fags to play as IG.

No, for Asians. Prior to adding Blood Elves, literally all Asian servers had a 95/5 ration in favour of Alliance. They just refused to play anyone who isn't "anime pretty." It was a business decision for Blizzard.
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people wanted WoW OSRS and instead got a side activity for bored retoilet players. Bet you the achievements all reward cosmetics and mounts for retoilet too.
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>>747589591
Paladins and priests are distinct, paladins fight and heal in melee, priests fight and heal at a range, paladins wear plate, priests wear cloth, paladins are knights and priests are priests. This garbage ass server put two fucking melee-focused holy classes in and thought they were sufficiently different. It's a fucking AI hallucination.
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>>747588801
>redditor reposts screenshot he previously posted to reddit you don't need to hide usernames on 4chan, redditor
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>>747589239
You'd have a point if they were making a definitive version of WC2 but replaced Lordaeron with Kalimdor and Northrend.
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>>747589703
>people
No, a handful of trannies and sweaties from private servers who want to autistically re-grind the same content, over and over.
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>>747587345
it's depressing and it's true
where are all of my ugly bastard lovers out there
i love being a big evil dude in big evil armor cutting pinkskins in half with my impractically large battle axe
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>>747589239
As per the Warcraft RPG, the entire other half of Azeroth (the planet) was unknown.
Of course, that got thrown out the window real fast.
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>>747589828
I always play male undead with the missing jaw and belt face
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>>747589878
>the entire other half of Azeroth (the planet) was unknown

Which is retarded when you have flying machines, submarines and modern warships. Plus FUCKING MAGIC, including scrying and farseeing.
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>>747589947
some dude once posted how he started playing vanilla wow as a kid or early teen, played an undead without the jaw, and made a guild called <dude wheres my jaw> that was only jawless undead lol
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>>747589947
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>>747564158
Tranny wow deserved to die.
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>>747566394
pippa isn't a loli though?
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>>747564158
Get fucked turdies
S
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>>747566394
>pippa
>loli
lmao
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>>747586623
It's not women, it's Asians. As some other anons pointed out earlier, 95% of Asians played Alliance before Blood Elves were added. They refuse to play non-pretty races.
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Turtle was doomed anyway
Don't forget how much time and resources they blew on that UEslop abomination of a client because they were too contrarian to use the wotlk one like literally every other pserver out there
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>>747577512
>Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in the Tolkien mythos?
>Noldor
>Vanyar
>Teleri
>Sindar
>Nandor
>Falmari
>Avari
And so on and so forth. And now there are Moriquendi too?
I was under the impression from The Lord of the Rings that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747577512
>Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in the Forgotten Realms?
>Sun Elves
>Moon Elves
>Wood Elves
>Wild Elves
>Sea Elves
>Dark Elves
>Avariel
>Snow Elves
And so on and so forth. And now there are Astral Elves too?
I was under the impression from the campaign books that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747589963
>flying machines
Lost technology when gnomes nuked themselves. The goblin variant went out of business because they tried to charge 5000x the gold once they become a monopoly.
>Submarines and modern warships
Lost technology when Stormwind was destroyed and uhhh the other humans just forgot how to build ships I guess. All the orc shipbuilders died in the war too.
>Magic sight
The further you attempt to cast far sight the most mana it costs. Not even Khadgar or Medivh could handle it.
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>>747590637
>The goblin variant went out of business because they tried to charge 5000x the gold once they become a monopoly
You'd just get a different goblin trying to undercut the other guy.
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>>747590612
>Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in Dragonlance?
>Silvanesti Elves
>Dark Elves
>Qualinesti Elves
>Kagonesti Elves
>Dargonesti Elves
>Dimernesti Elves
And so on and so forth. And now there are Lucanesti Elves too?
I was under the impression from the early novels that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747590437
>>747590612
>>747590895
So you're telling me elves are oversaturated everywhere?
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>>747577512
>Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in Warhammer 40K?
>Craftworld Eldar
>Druchi
>Harlequins
>Exodite Eldar
>Corsair Eldar
And so on and so forth. And now there are Ynnari Elves too?
I was under the impression from the source material that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747591054
Bingo. I know it may come off as shocking, but writers really, really like to expand on a beautiful, mystical, seemingly superior but tragically flawed people. George Martin just called them Targaryens and pretends they're humans.
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>>747564158
I want elves like this in my WoW
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I liked blood elves when they were edgy cunts.
I could not be less interested in yet another flavor of noble tree huggers.
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>>747586557
ORC MALE WARRIOR
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>>747591332
You can be black
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>>747577512
>soft canon since BC that 90% of high elves were wiped out in the Third War and then 90% of the survivors became blood elves, which is why high elves couldn't be playable
>15 years later, to avoid adding high elves, Blizzard adds a tiny cult of void worshipping blood elves as a brand new playable race
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>>747589465
they literally had to remove /spit for this you retard, classic players hated it
WoW Forever is a complete failure, it's literally the retail engine which classic players don't like
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>>747564158
Octowow lives
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>>747591619
But I bet it's some weird nigga black and not tasteful tanned or bronze Persian skin
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>>747591834
>150$ collector's edition already sold out
game isn't even out and it's a massive success
how you still haven't learned blizzpigs will eat up literally anything blizzard shits out is beyond me
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>>747591834
>It was so successful that they had to change the game to accommodate classicniggers who purchased it
They didn't need to do this when TRH released in Wrath btw.
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>>747591353
It's worse than that, Skyborne are using Retails retcon that Elves = Trolls, so you are just a fruity looking troll
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>>747564158
It's basically just a blood elf and troll mixed breed
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Friendly reminder you will be reported and banned for kicking us skyborne players from your parties. :)
And no, you can't just toggle us off either! Deal with it chuddies.
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>>747591974
>150$ collector's edition already sold out
common industry lies, they intentionally set a low sell out point to advertise demand
it's something you learn in economics and business management 101
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>>747591974
>>747592146
Sorry. I am the target audience.
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>>747564424
This
Fuck you Shena, I can't wait for pochie's disaster launch number 3
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>>747585514
>that I have to play
lmao nobody is forcing you to roll horde, foid
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>>747592130
I just wont invite you to my parties in the first place, retard.
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>>747592270
can I ask why? what part of the blue elves screams "this is worth a 30$+ purchase to me"?
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>>747585847
It's a physical model someone has edited into a Warcraft screenshot.
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>>747592385
I didn't buy it for the elves I boughted for the beta.
I will be making an undead paladin and a troll warlock.
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>>747592447
Buying it for the beta is even more goyish imo
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>>747582675
>start introducing naga lore and new models for a couple patches
>do a 360º and add ocean elf allied race
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>>747592351
Enjoy wasting three hours assembling one dungeon group then. We will all be level 60 and raiding by the time you and the rest of the uggos are still bumbling through wailing caverns KEK
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Legitimately is there someone at Blizzard that has a specific vendetta against high elves? This has happened multiple times at this point. People wanted high elves in retail? You get void elves. People wanted high elves in classic+? You get "skyborne". There has to be someone at the top who is against them to such a degree, that they will spite their own face before putting them in.
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>>747588247
Most of these are just utterly pointless and are just an already existing class done a second/third time or a spec turned into a whole class.

Tinker and Necromancer are ones people have wanted for years though.
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>>747592270
>>747592447
>he bought WoW Concord
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>>747564439
Survival was a scrapped feature from vanilla that Turtle picked up and reimagined.
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>everyone hates shadowlands and the smurfs
>do everything to never mention it again
>add "new" race who looks exactly like them

we didnt need a new race. they should have added a third faction made of the most killed npcs races like murlocs, ogres and so on
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>>747592473
Someone has to be a good goy and fix their game before it comes out officially for everyone.
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>>747592648
>WoW Concord
Actual retarded tourist lol
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>>747592531
If they gave Alliance high elves horde would've screamed and cried that they got ogres or goblins or whatever instead of blood elves.
It's not 2004 anymore, Horde players don't want to play ugly races. By doing this everyone gets to be pretty elves and Blizz only has to make one starting zone instead of two. Seethe all you want but this was unironically the path of least resistance.
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>>747592701
They aren't going to significantly change anything with it launching now. This isn't a real beta, it's paid demo as a compromise because the devs couldn't get away with selling early access to the real game.
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>>747592707
if you thought retail was as gay as it was gonna get, you have another thing coming
WoW Forever is the fruitiest shit i've seen since d&d made beholders gay, WoW Forever is actual fag shit
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>>747564534
>>747589136
>>747564158
I dont understand why people struggle to understand this

Nearly 40% of the playerbase plays some sort of elf. MOST online games with pretty elf characters, the elves dominate the player populations. People just really like elves.

Adding a pretty elf to both factions keeps the faction balance in check, gives a pretty faction to the horde to give the people that dont wanna play a "brutish" race a reason to play horde, and gives high elves to the alliance with a hand wave lore explanation as to why there can be so many like 1 year post the high elven undead genocide in Quel Thalas.

I am curious to see what they end up doing with blood elves in Forever though.
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>>747592782
That's nonsense.
Blizz always listens to player feedback.
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>>747592782
They will be able to fix the broken numbers, though, and the things that don't feel like vanilla.
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So is Forever supposed to have you still do shit like MC and what not or...what?
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>>747592701
You can't fix it you retard, it's classic ported into the retail engine, it's unfixable, look at the streams, look at the new custom content, it's over
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>>747592830
Oh, that's true. Don't know what I was thinking.
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>>747589662
>People will NEVER play ugly races
People will never play UNCOOL races. You can have disgusting looking races but if the lore about them is cool, people will play them.
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>>747592861
They actually aren't releasing with any of the end-game raids. You will do MC and shit eventually, but they are changing the end-game to fit horizontal progression instead of vertical.
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>>747592738
You could have added both. Almost 1:1 what they're doing with these "skyborne" fuckers, but with the race players want. Start as an elf trying to recover from Quel'thalas, and as you quest, you run into the Alliance and Horde. By level 10, you have to make a choice: reunite with your old allies (who recently betrayed you), or forge a new path with the horde, and embrace something darker. It writes itself.
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>>747592830
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>>747592531
it's not the only thing they have a weird stubborn resistance to. off the top of my head there's also the forest trolls, which they have recently poured salt on the wound in the form of an achievement for completion of Zul'Aman questing that literally reads "Reward: Amani Appearances for Darkspear" and what you get is a couple lazy tattoos that probably took an hour to develop.
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>>747592830
>Blizz always listens to player feedback.
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>>747592916
>muh lore
hardly anyone cares about this shit man
people are superficial and gravitate to what looks sexy or cool
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Can you niggers please STFU, it looks good, it feels good. The streamers are all saying it HYPE.
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>>747592858
>and the things that don't feel like vanilla.
The entire thing is remade in the retail engine, nothing about it feels like vanilla, the actual combat of classic is gone, it's gone bro, gone.
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>>747593008
newfag post
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>>747593008
Collab when? They may as well put more out of place elves into Forever.
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Imagine being the type of person to see blue elves in """classic""""+, onions out and hit the pre-order button.
You should kill yourself if you are that person. I say that without a hint of irony.
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>>747593008
>b-but my streamer said
I like what they showed but don't be a faggot about it. Form your own damn opinions.
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>>747593008
>it looks good, it feels good. The streamers are all saying it HYPE.
No they aren't lmao, they are saying it doesn't feel right and that "hopefully they'll make it feel better"
They are excited to show off new content, but all of them are admitting something is fundamentally wrong
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>>747586348
>tfw know a tranny who's RPing as one of illidan's trash tongues and will RP her as demon hunter
Race? Draenei
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>>747565657
>>747584664
>>747592673
>>747586108
For every retard that screams and cries that we should have gotten Ogres, I will remind them

You would have never played them anyway. Blizzard isn't gonna spend resources on a race less than 1% of the playerbase will touch
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>>747593008
This teabeehaych.
Asmon says it looks lit. I already preordered the collector's edition.
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>>747593035
Literally nobody who has played it has said that.
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How come Classic players reply to obviously farcical posts so seriously? Could it be because the game is mostly popular with ESLs or is it the tism?
>>747593107
Holy moly that cosplay is suck dude
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>>747593073
with shit like classic / forever they cant even play the sunk cost fallacy card. they are literally throwing money at blizzard to have shit ruined for second time
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At a bare minimum it's nice that I can spend 15 worthless fiat to find out this is shit or not then disappear if it is.
Definitely going to have to institute a no horde elves for group policy though.
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>Upcoming race war between tranny elves and the rest of TRVE NILLER BVLLS
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>>747593173
ah yes another you think you do but you dont moment
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>>747586435
Source - My ass

It would make no sense for it to be trolls because why would trolls flee anywhere? And why throw their lot in with air elementals?

It makes sense that highborne would when the rest of their kind got flooded, executed or banished
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>>747593173
Ok then add HIGH ELVES FROM WARCRAFT 2 AND WARCRAFT 3 AND WORLD OF WARCRAFT(2004) instead of your shitty OC elves
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>>747593173
this is such retarded logic, i would believe you if you said you're a blizzard dev.
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>>747588324
the pig nose kills it
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>>747593282
Speaking of racism, they made racism great again with the racials
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>>747564158
Blizzard died in 2007-2008

https://youtu.be/DjEzs74scO4
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>>747593179
Asmon said he gonna funnel all the gear to him and his GF.

We are gonna help him right?
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>>747593173
many of these races are locked behind stupid shit no one wants to do just so they can relevel another character from the ground up
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>>747593406
Is he going to play alliance or horde? I need to know so I am the opposite of him and can stream snipe gank him.
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>>747593376
>AI slop video where an ESL rants about schizo shit #895
Not clicking this.
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Skyborne (Alliance) should get Shaman and Skyborne (Horde) should get Paladin.
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>>747593547
why even keep up the pretense? just let them be any class
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What if the Ogre and Furbolg dungeons unlock ogres on horde and furbolg on Alliance as playable races when you complete them?
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I buyeded. Also re-subbed for a full year. It's going to be great, seethe thirdies.
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>>747577512
At the end of the day blue elves look lame and gay. The population don't really matter. Thrall's dindu orcs had one fleet of stolen ships when they escaped Eastern Kingdoms.
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>>747593468
He has always played human I think.
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>>747593547
>>747593591
They clearly have no holy magic, they can't even be priests.
I much prefer it being Undead pallies and Dwarf Shaman. Dwarf Shaman already makes sense and Undead Pally is just a cool aesthetic.
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>>747593173
No one wants Skyborne you fucking retard, look at the Nightborne numbers in Retail, no one wants these awful designed races with no established lore.
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>>747564158
lmao a palette swap? Seriously? Did Blizz somehow run out of development money? How is this new race not the most lavish and original thing a MMORPG has ever seen?
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>>747564158
Why make the base versions so butt ugly but then make the promotional model look like azshara?
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>>747593683
They're random asspull no-lore elves. They can be WC2 death knights for all it matters.
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>>747593173
This is classic, retard, 90% of the horde playerbase is perfectly fine with being a giant ugly nigger
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>>747593652
I was gonna buyed the CE but its sold out xc
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>>747593665
>sub-human RPs as human
it really is a fantasy game
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>>747593721
>this is classic
this is retail- thoughbeit
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>>747593594
why not just make a third faction

ogre, murlocs, furbolgs and harpies
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>>747593179
asmon will play it but thinks sky elves are stupid and so is the name forever
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>>747593652
>look at all these rainbow dildos i bought to shove up my ass!!
>suck it muslims!!!
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>>747593772
Imagine trying to balance 3 factions
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>>747593772
That would require building out a bunch of new towns and quests. How dare you ask that from a small indie team?
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>>747593179
>Asmon says it looks lit
he did not say that, he said he will play it on stream but thinks wow isn't made for him anymore
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>>747593173
one with a 30 dollaridoo gate to boot
they have every incentive to pander to the lower common denominator
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>>747593107
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>>747593802
He would have played it even if it was bad, though. Content is content.
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>>747593652
Based as fuck.
You really riled up all the turtle thirdies.
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>>747593846
you're so right bro, instead we should just get $30 donut steel allied races on both factions to fag up the game, you so right for this
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>>747566424
Not trying to defend WoW or Blizzard but texturing the armor/clothing onto the skin is a genius way to deal with the varying degrees of body types between all the races. Other games that don't do this suffer from all the races just being different sizes of human.
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>>747593846
>Imagine trying to balance 3 factions

might actually add some war to the world of warcraft
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>>747593594
If I get to be a furbolg shaman I'll suck your fucking dick
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>>747593878
How many times has this faggot quit WoW at this point just to come crawling back?
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>>747593008
>WoW streamers
they only play the game because it makes them money, they have to blow blizz or whichever companies game they play because it makes them money, that's simply it.
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>>747593917
>You really riled up all the turtle thirdies.
>one post agreed with him
>the other post made fun of him
>the other post is you
Holy shit blizzdrones lmao
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>>747579017
>Welcome to your new forever home!
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>>747593890
kek
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>>747593948
https://patents.justia.com/assignee/blizzard-entertainment-inc

it's all AI
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>>747564158
I'm trans so I'm okey with this
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>>747594035
you lost shenna
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>>747579017
i am old enough to remember night time in wow it was glorios
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>>747593890
Esfand literally won. Paladin in general but specifically Ret is going to be OP as fuck.
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>>747592861
Nope. WoW Forever is year 1 of Vanilla WoW launch + a few extra zones, the sky elves and ovbiously all their little reworks. At launch no raids will be available, unlike original wow which technically launched with MC and Onyxia available but obviously everyone had to level first..

This time NO raids whatsoever for just over a month, then a 10 man new raid, 20 man new raid, and 40 man onyxia. Im not sure if Onyxia will be identical or getting reworked slightly, but going forward post that inital raid unlocking all raids will be brand new, and some bringing back vanilla raids that are "revamped"

Now what exactly revamped is, isn't clear yet. But it seems the game's story is meant to be a complete 90 degree turn from vanilla wow and doing its own thing
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>>747592007
Haranir does a better job at that, tbf.
But how many schisms can one single race endure?
Just give us High Elves ffs.
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>>747593772
If they do a third faction it should be the scourge.
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>>747594090
TurtleWoW was the only trans friendly private server which is why you see so many cultists overly praise it
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>>747593846
You don't really need to, that's the beauty of it
If one faction turns out to be stronger than the other 2 they'll gang up on it whenever it starts getting out of hand.
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>>747594185
or illidari with ogres, naga, and broken
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>>747594138
how can they say that you will stay at level 60... forever, all while planning to release new content, for what exactly? what are you working towards if you've already hit 60? what even is the story at this point if it doesn't go beyond vanilla?
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>>747594086
you fucking wish. it's all pure incompetence from blizzard DEI hires through and through. even AI knows players want ogres and high elves
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>>747594118
I 'member the werewolf village in silverpine forest
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>>747594138
Does uhhh that dungeon with Rend Blackhand why cant I remember the name fuck count as a raid? The spreadsheet I saw wasn't clear about this.
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>>747594225
meanwhile in blizzard's servers
forever will get this event sooner or later and if you think otherwise you're coping.
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>>747594293
we don't know
the truth is I think WoW lends itself very poorly to horizontal progression
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Alliance (Paladin is the unique class)
>Human
>Dwarf
>Gnome
>High Elf

Horde (Shaman is the unique class)
>Orc
>Troll
>Tauren
>Ogre/Goblin

Forsaken (Death Knight is the unique class)
>Undead
>Undead Elf
>Blood Elf
>Skeleton/Ghoul/take your pick of Undead

Night Elves (Druid is the unique class)
>Night Elf
>Furbolg
>Keepers of the Grove
>Green Dragons or something IDK

Full PvP. Horizontal progression. No microtransactions. No transmog. All new content must fit per-existing rules of the wold.
There. I fixed it.
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>>747564158
Turtle wow had the right idea and got the og warcraft feel right.

That being said the content with a few exceptions was absolute dogshit. Swimming around those south sea islands with cliffs all around them and the blandest quest objectives imaginable might be the worst wow leveling experience I've had. Stormwrought ruin was decent though.
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>>747593326
The high elves are dead anon. That was the entire point of the end of WC3 TFT. Sylvanas was meant to be the remaining super power in northern eastern kingdoms leading the forsaken. For like 2 years of vanilla all we had of the high elves were random survivors with night elf models scattered around the world, and the gates to Quel'Thalas that were inaccessible until TBC. But they should be like 95% dead. The blood elves were blizz's way of bringing them back into the story and giving players a pretty race on horde to balance faction population, they just didn't realise they'd tip the scales too far the other way AND they made no sense from a lore perspective because now this genocide survivor race makes up half the entire world's population.

Skyborne literally are high elves. They're a lore asspull that lets you logically play as high elves, on horde or alliance, and explains why there is inevitably so many of them.
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>>747594349
Ok? Why are you acting like trannywow and Blizzard are the only options here? Do you suffer from a mental illness perhaps?
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>>747593951
idk about you but I pvp all the time in classic.
>>747594042
Do you think it's possible to disable the anti-sovl gas?
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>>747594372
Ambershire was ok but yeah the outdoor zones in general were really bad.
Fun dungeons though, I liked dragonmaw retreat.
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>>747594351
ESO would probably be the best thign to look at, new gear just has different set bonuses which can potentially be a new BIS depending on any other balancing going on.
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>>747587090
That's because you never asked them about non-PMC unions.
Say you want to unionize the code monkeys and watch those blue hairs becoming more pro-market than Hayek and Friedman combined.
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>>747594389
>should be like 95% dead
You mean like Stormwind humans and Thrall's Horde? Why does this debate exclusively reply to this one type of elf?
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>blizztroons shill for classic+ for months on end
>it's a total nothingburger retoilet wet fart
sad!
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>>747593443
Pandaren (both sides), goblins and worgen all make up collectively 5.6% of wow's total population. And have zero requirements to unlock them, and these were all massively requested races at one point or another.

I would go so far as to say goblins were at least on par with the request for ogres, and worgen were wanted since players encountered them in vanilla, and Pandaren were always seen as this "Hey remember that cool samurai panda in wc3, lets bring them back"

All those resources spent on their race, their aesthetics and buildings, their gameplay, their starting zones, so much so that they were selling points of 2 expansions.

Only to be played by 1 in every 20 players. More than 3 times as many players would rather be a nelf from launch vanilla wow.

The elf is stronk
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>>747594613
>/v/ seethes about blue elves for the next decade
>classic+ is a big success
many such cases
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>>747594512
i hate the soi horde so much
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>>747594389
Remove their blue skin option and let them start in quel'thalas and call the alliance ones high elves and the horde ones blood elves
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>>747594613
i can't wait to raidlog naxx again but as a blue elf this time
you just don't get it bro, blizz finally listened they fixed everything
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>>747594351
>we don't know
do you guys ever ask the dev about the future of the thing you pay monthly for?
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>>747585514
Not sure if it's the case outside German-speaking countries, but here WoW is legit used as a dating platform as well.
Women are looking for men here, so yeah, from a marketing perspective it makes sense to introduce a "women" race.
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>>747594738
it's blizzard bro
direct communication is like poison to them
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>>747589465
im so fucking glad i'm not a retarded fomo retard and never bought any of these scam packs, hundreds of thousands of dollars that will now rot on empty servers forever

can you imagine buying a motherfucking level boost on an ANNIVERSARY realm? what the fuck were these niggas doing
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>>747594761
"women"
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>>747594804
>I'm so fucking glad I'm poor
weird flex but ok
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>>747594687
it'll flop harder than sod
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>>747594835
Surprisingly they are real.
I know at least 3 couples who met through WoW.
May be a uniquely German thing.
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>Blizzard has fucked up Retail, Classic, SoD, Hardcore, and even Warcraft 3
>SURELY this Classic with lore rape Elves ($30 plus tip) will be different!
How can people fall for this still?
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>>747592804
thats retarded, horde is evil make a daemon race with sexy ass succubus and problem solved
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>>747594713
n-no, y-you can't do that!
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>>747594857
>oh you don't have a blacked premium subscription? you must be poor
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>>747586108
Instead of Pandaren I was rooting for Furbolgs.
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>>747594873
>HUGE numbers at launch
>dips to below half after a couple months
>eventually only some raidlogger guilds remain
happened to sod and it will happen here
anyone expecting a forever game from wow forever will be disappointed, ironically
Blizz can't deliver on a OSRS type of experience
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>>747594973
No, it's common in NA as well. Women love this game, which is why Blizzard keeps making it more and more faggy.
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>>747594687
i'm pretty sure i remember a post about marathon that read exactly like this, or was it concord?
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>>747595068
>poor brown thirdie randomly brings up his fetish out of nowhere
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>onto the last part
>reflections
>no mention of weather

blizzard really knows how to piss people off
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>>747594995
It's retail players, they intentionally sabotaged classic+ with the surveys because they didn't want classic+ getting money divested to it, so they just demanded classic+ be made into retail
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>>747595173
Stop being a drooling fucking retard pretending that these packs were anything less than a scam.
Fucking disingenuous faggot
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>>747594995
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>>747594995
Warcraft Refunded is almost on par with its original release now after 6 years of patches
Maybe Warcraft Foregone will be good eventually if we just trust the plan
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>>747595259
RetailGODs put their money where their mouth is.
If you want more attention you could buy the 100$ dino too, but you didn't. Now Classic+ is our personal playground for when we get bored of raidlogging.
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i mean warcraft elves were fine lorewise twenty years ago but now they're just gay and boring
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>>747595132
>dwarves and worgen in org
So, factions are done in retail?
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>>747595173
kek poorfaggot cope. wheres your sub bro? too poor? KWAB
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I'm excited to play with my best friend when it comes out no doubt, don't know why you guys are always crying tranny nigger every time a new classic fork releases I never see these people
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>>747595451
>I never see these people
Look in a mirror.
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>>747593547
>>747593683
>>747593718
Think about it logically:

>Paladin is specifically reserved for characters with an affinity towards the holy light, belonging to the order of the silver hand
>This is a specific group of characters in the lore, there are no other paladins in wc3
>As such this is an alliance favoured class: Humans and Dwarves, for gameplay purposes Undead are getting them so horde has access to the class without blood elves, but it also sort of makes sense with dead humans etc.

>Priests are based on having faith to some sort of belief/religion, not specifically the light
>Works with Humans Dwarves worshipping the light, nelves with elune, gnomes I'm sure will have some sort of lore explanation in their class quests but probably holy light as well, undead have their weird forsaken religion and troll believe in the voodoo
>Other races don't get priest due to being non religious and/or shamanistic cultures instead

>This leans into why Skyborne aren't priests - they weren't religious when they were high elves, they focused on the arcane which led to the sundering etc.

Obviously this leaves us with the gap of horde getting a lot more shamans than alliance gets paladins. But is balanced by the fact that the alliance gets more priests and an extra druid race. Which reflects their faction identities a bit better.

Alliance races were heavily light focused in wc3, horde were heavily shamanistic focused. It should stay that way with small concessions for gameplay and fan service
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>>747564158
thugglife
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>>747595352
so fucking bouncy
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>>747593772
Why would Ogres, Murlocs, Furbolgs and Harpies ever be on the same faction? They'd all want to kill each other and they're all savage races
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>>747595436
That's a special snowflake genderless neutral race of dwarves they added 2 years ago and a female tauren
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>>747595451
i too am excited to join the darkspear dash, sis
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>>747569827
Gilneas prolly
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>>747595352
the HD models can be paired with the classic animations? shit, i could actually play dwarf again..
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>>747595451
/v/ is full of autistic 30 something losers who have held a grudge against Blizzard for 15+ years because they slightly changed a zone back in Cata or some shit.
You can safely disregard any WoW seething on this board for what it is, mindless screeching.
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>>747595101
>expecting a forever game from wow forever
Why wouldn't I expect that, it's literally in the name
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>>747594434
Yes, forgot about, ambershire was good. Having that tourney there that didn't have any content or lead anywhere was a big disappointment though. DMR was cool because it looked like Moria but the content was very tank and spank, more so than other dungeons, like those big colossi that you fouight individually that took ages and were just braindead.
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>>747564158
22 years later, alt-right incels are still obsessed with a company and a game they stopped playing 16 years ago. Absolutely mindbroken and groomed by their fascist overlords into fighting a manufactured culture war. These losers are trapped in a time stasis, forever seething until their parents die and they're forced to live with crackheads under the nearby bridge.
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>>747594324
You're thinking of UBRS and yeah, that was a 10man raid.

Originally it was meant as a 5man dungeon with the upper portion meant to be 5 REALLY well geared raiders to come back to later, or more likely 10-15 dungeon-level geared players. But in the end they capped the raid at 10 players and made the whole thing 10 man.

Its not gonna be in Forever, until later when they inevitably revamp it to fit the new timeline. So will be playable eventually, but likely different considering they are open to doing 10, 20 and 40 man raids now in Forever
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>>747595132
OK but now look at the Classic+ trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXaXYxcbA6A
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>>747595376
i mean when you're right you right, it's not made for me anymore, im not buying
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>>747594293
>for what exactly?
>what are you working towards if you've already hit 60?

It seems like it's gonna go 1 of 2 ways

>1. Horizontal progression: You are doing the content for the sake of the content. You are doing it because its fun and unlocks stuff that isn't solely a bigger piece of gear

>2. Horizontal progression with scaling gear: Gear tiers will increase over time as more content is released, like the original Tier 1, 2 and 3 system
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>>747594389
literally why have they never implemented Forsaken Elves? With all the Sylvanas fanboys out there you'd think there would be demand for it, and another reason to add pretty race to Horde. Just add an option to hide the protruding back bones.
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>>747595484
>there are no other paladins in wc3
They literally just retconned it in WC3 expansion that released yesterday
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>>747595451
>I'm excited to play with my best friend when it comes out no doubt
are you excited to suck him off in your gay ass wow forever game you faggot?
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Fuck the haters.
What are we rolling bros? I'm thinking orc warrior for old time's sake and then a skyborne shaman to check out the cool new starting zone.
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>>747595027
>sexy
>Blizzard
Are you kidding? Even these new elves were like pulling teeth out of them.
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>>747595743
So many buzzwords
You should have your teeth knocked out, lobotomized, and turned into a classic chad’s cock servant
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>>747595786
Gay bear
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>>747595928
this would require having to write icky storylines again, which modern blizzard doesnt want to do
they would much rather write new stories about the toad beef and his boyfriend toad wellington
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>>747595928
Because Blizzard intentionally uses new races to terrorize and punish the existing playerbase. This has been the case since they added Worgen. What other reason could there be?
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>>747596021
Undead Paladin since I have never played Pally ever and Troll Warlock spirit build meme spec.
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>>747590286
>95% of Asians played Alliance before Blood Elves were added. They refuse to play non-pretty races
wtf are they more extremist than westerners?
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>>747595786
frozen? Even the dwarf looks different; the bear looks like it could fucking talk at any moment.
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>>747596021
I think UD for Paladin or Tauren Druid
I think those classes will be the strongest tanks and decent healers. I think priest is gonna be best heals since they have prayer of mending which was busted in sod
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Reminder that a majority of shitposters are butthurt private server players mad their botfarms and gold selling websites went under the moment blizzard announced Classic+
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>>747596021
>fuck the haters
More like fuck your ass gay boy, bros aren't playing this, WoW Forever is for the girls
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>>747596049
>when you're a living buzzword and you get triggered when someone points it out
ouch!
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>>747590286
This isn't even true.
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>>747596134
>I feel like I need to hate this in order to fit in but am incapable of articulating why
>so I'll just call it "disney" and not elaborate further
getting tired of this new npc script
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Why are elves so popular in Warcraft but not in what it's originally derived from, ie Warhammer fantasy? (and in 40k eldar are not popular either).
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>>747596185
If the only thing they do is actually moderate and ban bots the game would already be a GOTY
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>>747596185
Now show the fruity gay male, and the gay new zones
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>>747596185
unironically this. the wow private server /vg/ is all malding because their romanian tranny servers where you get to pay 50$ for races and bagslots and anywhere teleports got nuked by blizz
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>>747595928
I would be okay with this if they were a separate race with their own starting zone but if its something you select when you choose forsaken then I don't want it. To me being an ugly zombie is mandatory.
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>>747596021
Orclok main, and a dwarf shaman alt.
That's probably plenty if I decide to play.
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>>747587968
>that's just the beginning
is that a threat?
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>>747596254
Blizzard focuses heavily on elves in their storytelling, they are basically the MCs of the current retail arc.
GW has a weird love hate relationship with them. Especially in regards to 40k. Nobody really gives a shit about Eldar because GW never treats them as much more than supporting characters for the imperium.
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>>747596185
truth nuke

LGBTQIA+ Blizzard has owned these incels since they hit the subscribe button in 2004
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do the troons here know the new elf race can be white and you dont have to be blue
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>>747596391
if you're an og blizzard fan, absolutely
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>>747596321
Kek, those guys are such fucking loser paypigs.
Unrelated but have you bought the 30$ beta access and elf race yet? or did you manage to get the collector's edition before they sold out? I just bought mine and a years sub.
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Why do you guys asks why blizz don't give us ogres (or any other races)? It's pretty clear, they suck or with their engine it's too hard to make new animation and meshes. The last proper race were fucking pandas. Dractyr are not even a complete race since most armor is not visible on them, however they can play the "well it's because they are dragons man."

You will never get ogres, or naga, or any other race that can't share or use the meshes from existing races.
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>>747596463
Oh wow, that totally justifies the $30 price tag, thanks retard-kun
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>>747596463
everything about them is bad you idiot, lore, voices, emotes, dances,
it's all bad
skyborne are complete retail slop
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>>747595027
You mean the Burning Legion?
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>>747596463
it's exactly because i'm not a troon that i'm not interested in the tranny elf race
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>>747595678
you're so right sis, blizzard's track record speaks for itself. they've put out consistent banger after banger
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>>747596537
The NPC Naga that we kill en masse are already more compatible with the existing armor system than Draggots are btw
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>>747596597
then why are your turtle discord sisters seething so hard in every thread?
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>>747596098
>roll Warlock spirit build meme spec.
What's that? Does it allow me to larp voodoo shit?
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>>747596246
Why don't you actually elaborate on why you like it? If you need a fucking ophthalmologist to see how different it looks from the old trailer, that's on you. Anyone with eyes can see that the original footage clearly established the stakes, showing how the game presented the races and their environments, and actually showing the conflict and danger in the world. This new version is just a shitty, corporate attempt to grab at nostalgia, and it failed miserably. You're calling it an 'NPC script' because you're completely blind to a massive downgrade in art direction and tone. Try making an actual argument next time instead of deflecting.
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>>747596547
>>747596579
>>747596597
good thing its optional!
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>>747596670
Bro probably thinks troll warlocks will have a relevant amount of in-combat health regen.
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>>747596246
Cope tranner
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>>747596021
frick the haters, only posi vibes in chat frens!! blizzard COOKED on god!
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>>747596654
Not that anon, look at youtube comments, reddit, no one is happy about them, everyone is calling it a misfire except retail players.
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>>747596703
>it's bad because....I say so!
these bots really need an update, this is getting pathetic
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>>747596185
>butthurt private server players mad their botfarms and gold selling websites went under
as if retail and every iteration of classic isn't full of bots and gold sellers lmao
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>>747596217
It is, retard. You can look it up within a few minutes. Asians refuse to play ugly races because their entire pop-culture has put cuteness and beauty on a pedestal.
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>>747596717
>continued rape of the world of warcraft, the "main character" of classic wow is okay as long as it's optional paid dlc
nah, no thanks, the custom content is faggy too
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>>747596776
Nice counterargument, retard; you made my point clear.
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>>747596654
i never played turtle. wanna try that again without projecting, sis?
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>>747596835
I did look it up. Videoes of people playing on bilibili, looked up characters via raider.io, have dealt with players from Taiwan and Hong Kong on NA servers for 20 years.
Why don't you post evidence to support your claims instead of mindlessly parroting others?
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>>747596867
You never made an argument for me to counter though. You just keep parroting buzzwords you heard from your favorite streamer.
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>>747596717
>90% of the horde will be that race
>optional
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>>747594973
Fucking losers i swear it...
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>>747596867
Post the edit
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>>747595786
>Watch the trailer
>read the write-up on mmo-champ
>it's all about the graphics and the looks and the (visual) "feel" of the zones.
Who gives a flying fuck. The important thing about classic+ is: Will they make it fun, will they make shit like shadow priest, or boomkin viable, and find ways to make classic wow actually fun while still being reminiscent of classic wow? Or are they doubling down on: "We're trying to stay as true as possible to how it originally played" which will undoubtedly just lead to people discovered yet again that playing a honestly not very difficult game, whose main difficulty was a mix of obscurity, bad design and very limited good equipment, that has been solved for over 20 years now, is not very exciting?
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>>747596410
maybe currently but, the way I remember it elves were always C-tier players in the story in the earlier expansions. I have to remind myself that I don't know about anything since MoP though and I know they've added a ton of elf types. Still, even Arator and Tyrande and those guys have hardly been main players have they? Not sure that their story presence has an impact.
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>>747596969
bro it's just vanilla with a graffix update and retoilet achievements
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>>747596969
no
the devs are only interested in wanking off paladins, everyone else gets to sit in the bench
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>>747596729
I guess trolls do have the new rapid regeneration racial though, restores 50% health over time. No idea what the time frame is and what the cooldown is like though.
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>>747596940
>people playing what they want to play
and this affects you personally....how?
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>>747596246
>i am getting tired of people directly articulating the artistic design problems with modern world of warcraft
okay then? im not buying it, it's not for me, it's fag shit for fags
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>>747596463
I'm still going to have to watch these obnoxious glowing blueberies run around and be 70% of the population and make it feel like I'm in retail or a shitty p server.
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>>747597060
Its probably a clone of the Zul'jin hots ability
Basically just first aid but free
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>>747595941
Who are the new paladins in forsaken kingdom?
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>>747595928
There's a color toggle for that
Void Elves get them too
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>>747597116
because it's not a single player game and i have to deal with people around me playing a dogshit tranny race?
you're like an insane leftist asking how the infinity migrants are affecting me personally.
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>>747597135
>seeing elves in warcraft will ruin my heckin immersion
Where did all these tourists come from?
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>>747596463
what the fuck?!
that's even worse, man, fuck's the point of them being blue in the first place then?
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>>747597116
>going to paris and seeing no native french people
>and this affects you personally....how?
hmmmm, not that anon, but i can tell what kind of person you are, and it's not worth anyone engaging with
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>>747588247
What's the difference between a necromancer and a reaper and how do they differ from death knights?
Same with pyromance and fire mages
Same with cultist and warlocks
Same with stornbringer and shaman
Same with sun cleric/templars and paladins
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>>747597173
>>747597243
>least mentally ill /pol/cels
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>Troons from private server will spend the next few months larping that Blizzard didn't make these decisions after Season of Discovery and years of polls gauging what the community wanted in Classic+
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Thanks for beta testing pserfs
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>>747596185
Why does the multi-billion dollar company get dev-mogged by different groups of a few nerds who develop a vast variety of far cooler stuff while being forced to use a jury-rigged mspaint to emulate their dogshit engine?
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>>747597280
which survey asked if people wanted another belf recolor? I don't remember that in sod
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>>747597174
no amount of pilpul is going to get the majority, popular sentiment of skyborne looking gay and weird to go away
you can spend your next entire week, hell the next few months disinfo'ing, it wont work

people don't like this fag shit
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>>747597235
Blue means totally original new race $30 + tax + tip please
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>>747597338
>majority, popular sentiment
/v/ and r/wow is the entire population apparently
sure thing lil bro
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>>747597331
The survey that says Elves are the most played race in all versions of world of warcraft by far dipshit?
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>>747564424
>Project Epoch
I miss poochie, I hope I will see some of those fags on Forever.
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>>747597060
They also get 10% in combat health regen
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>>747597293
>Thanks for beta testing pserfs
WoW Forever is completely retail bro, retail engine, retail talents, retail design, retail combat

It's effectively nerfed retail combat, which doesn't feel good either
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>>747597360
>original
but highborne, nightborne and void elves are also blue?
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>>747597280
>ask the retailtranny audience what they want
>duuh pvp toggle, rdf, flying mounts and every spec being good at this one specific thing of hitting a target, hd models, unreal engine tier lighting and uhhh cash shop mounts
>see, the people playing this mode specifically for the lack of the aforementioned actually want this
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>>747597331
Blood elves are more than 50% of the entire playerbase in retail and classic.
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>>747597017
If that's the case, why even fucking bother? But I kinda doubt it. They show shit in the trailer that was for sure not part of classic. Dalaran opening up etc. So they've planned some sort of twist to the whole deal.
Also: I will never forgot how that shitter Asmongold played Classic when it came out
>Play classic
>get dungeon invite
>go on follow
>tab out
>watch youtube videos with community
>get told when to tab back in to get loot shoved in his ass
>tab back out
>sit in capital and let people trade you gold and items
"Guys not gonna lie classic is kinda boring", yeah no shit lmao.
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>>747597419
funny, don't remember seeing any in the horde when I was playing classic niller
was i supposed to make 50 orc alts to skew the numbers or something?
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>>747597407
Check youtube comments lmao, you're in the minority
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>>747597320
>Why does the multi-billion dollar company get dev-mogged by different groups of a few nerds who develop a vast variety of far cooler stuff
cuz you never played these private servers but for some unknown reason mindlessly believe turd worlders who will defend any free game
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>>747596969
>will they make shit like shadow priest, or boomkin viable
Talents are already leaked, and yes, both of these look like they will be viable
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>>747597465
>Ask the people who still play your game what they want
>Why are they pandering to the people who still play the game and not random 40 year olds on 4chan
A perfect image for your response brother I feel your mentally retarded spirit flowing through me.
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>>747597502
>Why is classic+ adding things classic doesn't have
listen to yourself.
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Flying mounts soon. Trust.
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>>747597504
>but the youtube comments brooo
that's your argument?
holy fucking kekaroooooo
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>>747597280
>years of polls gauging what the Retail* community wanted in Classic+
Yeah, that's the problem with WoW Forever

The divergent data was because of retail players being dissatisfied with retail AND classic, when classic players were happy with classic and just wanted some minor additions
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>>747597465
less than half of those things are true and you would know that if you got your opinions first hand instead of from shitposters on 4chan.
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>>747597272
you tell em sis, diversity is our strength!
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>>747597595
I will charge-back if they do
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>>747564158
>month long beta
>comes with a sub for launch
>nothing to fucking play this month
ah fuck i'm probably buying in
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>>747597586
so how was I supposed to signal to Blizz i don't want elves in vanilla horde if they never specifically asked and the race distribution can't be used as an indication?
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>>747564158
retail-
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>>747597603
Yes anon, you are a small minority, it's why you are trying so hard to argue about it
Look at the comments on stream, look at comments in posts, people don't like the changes, they don't like the retail additions.
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>>747597656
You're already settling for gay oc blue elves and microtransactions. Surely one more cock in your mouth won't hurt that bad.
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>>747597656
you already bought it bitch nigga, you will buy whatever blizz sharts out
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>>747597462
Those are retail races pig disgusting, this blue elf is lore friendly classic ready don't forget to buy the Super Elf Edition Pack for only $60 + tax + tip comes with blue elf themed toilet seat cover for your comfy player housing
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>>747597559
I hope you're being intellectually dishonest and aren't actually a knuckle-dragging retard. Surely the opinions of retail tourists, which abandoned sod (dead as dogshit server) after a few weeks matter for something different?
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>>747597656
No you won't, you bought Retail- like a bitch and you are going to play it like one, you are going to play the faggy new skyborne, you are going to run the dungeons made by retail devs, and you are going to take it
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>>747597603
you tell him sis, NORMAL people like us love the blue elves. no, you cant see them, but they're there, just like the skyborne always have been!!
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>>747597719
>b-but the chat in asmongold's stream.....!
sis, just stop
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>Ogres playable race, Forsaken Elf appearance options, non hunched buff trolls
>expanded south sea pirate quests and zones with rep focus and doing privateer shit
>ravenholdt-syndicate developed
>shadowhunter class
Nothing of what I wanted got added.
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>>747564424
All of WoW's devs are trans anyway it's a requirement
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>>747597320
it took Twow like 8 years to get to where they were (1.18.1).
some of it (Emerald Sanctum, Gilneas (horde), ect.) was really messy.
Still doesn't explain why the multi-billion dollar company gets ran around by modders.
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>>747597867
I love how none of your Turtleniggers even attempt to deny it lol
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Last for shenna lost, pserfs lost, XIVvers lost, ForeverGODs WON bigly
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>>747597828
I was talking Xaryu's chat my guy, Esfands, Guzu's
A lot of classic players aren't happy.

The retail players are, you're used to gay garbage, so I'm sure you''ll enjoy WoW Forever
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>>747597906
>Still doesn't explain why the multi-billion dollar company gets ran around by modders.
Modders do it for the love of the game. Companies do it for the money.
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>>747595923
WoW is a terribly designed game for horizontal progression, and the playerbase has been conditioned for 20 years to expect vertical progression every patch
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>>747598008
>A lot of classic players aren't happy.
they will play it
you will play it
performative outrage changes nothing
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>>747597925
i love how troondle lives rent free in the heads of blizzbottoms because random third world trannies managed to make a better classic+ than the billion dollar corporation with thousands of high value brahmin human capital employees
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>>747596717
>good thing its optional!
You know what else is optional? Not playing WoW entirely(I will simply choose this option)
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>>747598143
and yet here you are, still seething about the game
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>>747596185
Are you trying to imply retail and classic isn't full of botfarms and gold sellers when there's trillions of gold on gold selling websites at this very moment?
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>>747598010
but there's money in having a superior product. It's not like they pay less for developing Zephyr Island over a zone people wanted since classic.
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>>747597828
considering how the hags on stage at blizzcon kept mentioning this mythical "community," could you perhaps show me where said community may be found? because apparently it's not on 4chan, not on leddit, not on twitch, not on youtube, not on twitter... where is The Community(tm)?
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>>747598175
>seething
Nice projection retard
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>>747598085
>Trannybabble nonsense
You lost Turtlenigger
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>>747569376
>still looks nice tho, but hope there is a fog slider
Same. I turn that shit off as well as ground clutter and some other shit. I like the shadows and light stuff tho.
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>>747598270
you're still here?
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>we want to go back to the roots of WoW, before all of the expansions so you won't see any flying mounts and what not!
>here's this new completely made up out of the blue (pun intended) race that no one has ever heard of before
>yeah we had plenty of other races already in Warcraft lore since before WoW but ehhh nah fuck that lol
>oh and that'll be $30 plus tip

And niggas are going to pay for it too lmao
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>>747597906
>why the multi-billion dollar company gets ran around by modders.
They don't.
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>>747598573
>Still seething
You are still gonna pay for it lol
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>>747598619
dood this is so sick dood
finna have aura when I afk in ironforge
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>>747598573
>acccess journalism is so fucking bad that we won't get one sitdown with the devs to answer the question of why they made that race and ask them if they won't change it since it's supposed to be a community driven game, so why not change the race
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>>747598624
i am not a retoiletroon so i am clearly not the target audience, and therefore i shan't, in fact, be paying for it
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>>747598619
Deathknell is gonna be so fucking packed lmao
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>>747598741
Yeah you will. You're obsessed.
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How come dwarves didn't become red after getting metaphorically in bed with fire elementals? the sky elves turned blue so it would make sense
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It's hilarious to see just how relevant ogres used to be when playing back WC2 Orc campaigns + dark portal.
Not only bloodlust ogre cube is the strongest offensive unit strategy but there is so much emphasis put on Cho'gall, the shadowmoon clan and orc/ogre relationship that going into WOW and seeing ogres being completely fucking irrelevant proves that WoW has always been a warcraft fanfic.
Like Danath and Kurgran have Wow models and some lore but Dentard got fucking nothing, Blizzard just hates ogres for no reason.
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>>747598741
and then by next week you will buy the 30$ beta access just to "see how bad it is"
and then you will buy a year sub
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>>747598886
The sky elves are offshoots of Highbornes. They turned blue over millenias.
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>>747598948

Shit man I'd be satisfied with something like Quilboars or Gnolls or some shit. But no we gotta make muh pretty race
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They have a sketch from CHRIS METZEN
I unironically love blue elves now
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>>747594804
i want a fat cow wife with massive K-cup tits to suck milk out of!
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>>747598886
In dnd they're called azer and are really cool looking. Definite high levle planar bullshit that screams retail though and has no place in classic as a playable race.
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>>747598179
No but the private servers spamming social media and 4chan are interested in you buying their package over Blizzard's despite it being fraud
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You will buy it anyway.
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>>747598948
They had barely any presence in Warcraft 3 other than as neutral units so I guess WC3 was wc fan fiction as well.
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>>747577632
Some nerd pointed out that they are in lore, or at least the land they come from
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Blizzard games are free if you were good at WoW at least 18 years ago.
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>>747599280

Nigger Pandaren had one (1) character in WC3 and they had an entire EXPANSION made about them. What's your point?
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>>747599140
>No
Thank you for consneeding



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