it hurts to look at
>>747572554Slowfall racial looks pretty cool though
Probably the most retarded decision for a WoW Classic server: pseudo-Pandaren sky elves... called SKYBORNE>We are listening to the playersWho asked for this? They trannies playing Draeneis?
this is the equivalent to some furry forcing his favorite talking dog into everything
>>747572554>still no ogres
being a blizzard fan in 2026 must be embarrassing. but not embarrassing enough if you retards keep existing
>>747572554>>747572850Not an argument
>>747572554Should've been playable Ethereal.
>>747572554>Of all the things they could've addedThey're legitimately retarded.
>>747572554WoW has always been insulting to look at. Genuinely one of the worst games I've ever seen. It sucks because it was fun to play, but just the worst art design ever.
>>747572912
Well, it's nice of them to show their hand this early on. It's not gonna get better. It's just gonna get wose. Thanks. I won't have to try it.
>>747573119Autistic screeching is not an argument.
>>747572729>Who asked for this?nobody directly but anytime you look at most played races in wow elves are always very high on the list and blizz knows they can make easy money by doing this
>all the retard streamers they invited to the offices warned them not to do this>they did it anywaywhy not just make them belfs and helfs
>30 fucking dollars paygate for a dogshit nuwriter OC donut steel racei, for one, am glad they announced this would just be retail 2.0 straight out the gate. that way i'll skip this garbage entirely instead of watching it turn to slop just i like with the original wowand this finally means blizzard is dead to me. nothing they can put out can possibly excite me anymore
Remember: anyone defending this choice is an unironic tranny
>>747572554I don't mind the Skyborne so much as I mind the fact that we're getting another stupid faction neutral race. Give Alliance their stupid sky elves and give the Horde ogres.
>>747573280What's actually wrong with blue elves when they're hot? How is that a tranny thing?
>>747573247They're high on their own farts. >We're right, everyone else is wrong, you'll see once it's out and people play itWe've been there multiple times with Blizzard.
>>747572554I'm getting Bluther flashbacks lmao
>>747572931how in the absolute fuck would you put ethereals into classic?
>>747573319Tranny mindset.
>>747572554You asked for this.
>>747573319It's the laziest thing they could've done.>>747573395Have them crash into a nearby island. TBC did it no problem.
>>747573424>the one race in the entire game that cannibalizes is vegan???
>>747573395How in the absolute fuck would you put blood elves but from a magical sky kingdom into classic?
>>747573424>gender Femaleit should be Body type 1 / Body type 2
>>747572554I don't even understand why they cheap out like this? I mean it's not like this will sell more compared to if horde got ogres and alliance got high elves that doesn't look scuffed. Did they just calculate the time and effort it takes to implement this and decided that recoloring blood elves would be cheaper because the animations and shit is already done? But if that's the case then why not take the route of giving horde forest trolls and alliance wildhammer or dark iron dwarves? I truly don't understand the thought process
>>747572554>doesn't fit in UI
>>747573534the trolls practice cannibalism big time
>>747573452>It's the laziest thing they could've done.Then otherwise they would have made dogshit like furries or scalies again and people would complain anyways.
>>747572554I have a feeling that trying to appeal to retoilets and classicfags at the same time is majorly going to bite these dumbfucks in the ass. HD models and transmog but the world still looks like polygons from 2004
it's interesting people are getting most mad at the race when Blizzard is literally adding paid cosmetics to classic - mounts, pets, and transmog sets
>Classic+/Forever is the perfect opportunity for Blizzard to finally add playable Ogres to the game, they were already working on the concept back in the development of fucking Cataclysm, but chose to go with Goblins instead, so all the resources and models are already there.>Instead, make up ANOTHER entirely new subspecies of elves that have somehow just been chilling on a magic floating island and doing nothing since the sundering.I'm unironically fine with Blizzard adding bullshit new races to the game, the problem I have is that they're ignoring adding the races players actually want(High Elves/Ogres/Naga/Sethrak). Unironically if they just made HElves for the Alliance and Ogres for the Horde playable, they'd build up enough goodwill with the fanbase to do whatever the fuck else they wanted without complaint
>>747572554>having any measure of faith in nuBlizzardCan't wait to wintness the cope from Blizzdrones 6 months after release when WoW Forever servers are dying lmao
>>747573870tbc and beyond already has this shit in it
>>747573395who gives a shit, ANYTHING would have been better and made more sense
>>747573870Ah yes, those armor sets fit so well in the spirit of Vanilla... Totally not straight out of retail at all... God I hate this dogshit company
>>747573319>>747573724>ogre>naga>high FUCKING elveshell there are a lot of CLASSIC warcraft races that are still not playable and that are fateful to the original RTS lore yet they decide to go for re-painted blood elves, FUCKING HELL on Blood elves were left on their own at the end of W3 they could simply made them neutral if they wanted to go for another thing "blood" elves that didn't want the horde could simply become "high" elves of the alliance, etc. instead they "invented" a new elven race out of their asses
>>747572554Hyperborean to Hyperborean communication
It's been obvious for decades now that Blizz needs an internal dev unit whose sole purpose should be working on "Impossible" to implement features such as rigging for "Monstrous" races. Instead of saying it's too hard for 20 years straight if they just had a handful of white guys working on it in a corner we would have it by now. Instead in 2026 they are forced to implement blue elves as a new race because they literally can't do anything else. The mismanagement of talent at Blizzard is unreal.
They needed to add a pretty race to the Horde. They just had to. I didn't expect an OC elf race, but it was coming. Sorry, Ogre and Nagachads, but it wasn't going to happen.Shame that it's a neutral race that Alliance also get, though.
>>747572931they had to implement a boring ass human race first and foremost to get vapid foids and chinks to even touch the game
>>747574134woops one reply meant for >>747573753
>>747572554
>>747574234>They needed to add a pretty race to the Horde. They just had toNo
>>747573683Lost technology. You'll get misaligned vibecoded memory leaking trash from now on until the servers shut down.
>>747574243REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE WOMEN I HATE TRANNIES LEAVE MY GAME ALONE
>>747573424>TES mer lore.jpg
>>747574243>i have to pay extra to eat this plate of shit and i'll do it instead of playing something elsebaffling
>>747574234>Sorry, Ogre and Nagachads, but it wasn't going to happen.This is the truth that Grogs refuse to hear. Blizzard keeps adding elves because people play them. Twow added gobbos and they were the least played race
>>747574371This, but completely non-ironically.
>>747572554the name is trash and the presentation was worse.. hag holly and the HR cunt made me want to end it right there
>>747573202This. WoW is now a women's game and most women play as elves
>>747574243>Every other race is uglyThis bitch don't have eyes, the blue elves are easily uglier than anything else in vanilla, the shadows are all wrong
You guys telling you you don't have $30? It's one hour of work.
>>747574243Yup, women wouldn't touch the horde if they didn't implement hotter races, everyone knows this. This is why the opted for a neutral race of recolored blood elves instead of giving horde another brute race like ogres
>>747573280Go outside and call people trannies, anon. Nobody here cares. Fistfight people irl or stfu. Are you scared of them?
>>747574036well then, I guess my expectations were a bit too high then for this new version of Classic plus. I thought they were going to have a fresh new start with a clean slate and new ideas to really keep the spirit of Classic
>>747574513I've called people faggots when I've fucked them in their assholes, does that count?
>>747574513glowie
>>747573280Why are you so obsessed with trans people? You know, you'd have a much happier life if you simply admitted to yourself that you find trans people attractive. It's ok, there's no shame in being gay.
>>747574243Based for saying Blizz games are ugly, but cringe for paying them for the "non-ugly" class
>>747574487i'll take these 30 dollars and buy a better game instead
>>747574670If you weren't poor as fuck you could do both.
When will you fricks accept that blizzard will never make games for us again
>>747573870>armor t-shirts in twenty fucking twenty six
>>747574487>leveling zoneDoesn't sound like Classic to me
>>747574704why would i give money to blizzard? i'd rather flush it down the toilet. go beg for players somewhere else blizzard marketer
>>747572554the game isn't for you anymore, its slop thats meant to be eaten with chopsticks if you catch my drift
>>747572554I hate that they couldn't even reasonably fit the name.
>>747574621I just gassed a bunch of cockroaches to death. I guess that means I wanted to fuck them.
>>747574462I thought it was very funny how literally nothing Holly said after the cinematic played actually meant anything
>>747573585blood elves were in warcraft 3, nub
>>747572554You know what infuriates me? The fact that it certainly wasnt expensive to make normal elves for Horde and Alliance. Hell, it wasnt expensive to give them vrykuls and ogres. But they didn't fucking bother to do even that. They may say We Love You hundreds times but the actions speak louder than words. They don't give a shit about players that fucking much.
>disney post cata models and animationswow, dead on arrival
I wish for wow classic plus>Wish granted>One finger on the monkeys paw closesNo wait take it back
>>747574201I never understood what's holding them back here. Can't they just do >naga: copy paste orc male torso textures, just have fins come out of the back, naked pants, boots>ogres: copy paste tauren textures for arms, legs, work on new textures for the big belly. >goblin: gnome copy paste
I really wanted a beastial race for the alliance :(
The concept of a race fighting for either side is just weird in WoW. Like what if the alliance decides to genocide a bluegger horde camp. All the ally blueggers are just gonna be cool with that?
>>747575074Watch the conference they basically said all the new shit is toggleable. You can use old models and animations. Same with the new UI from my understanding.
>>747573605Probably a recycled asset from retail.
Why do the Bluesky elves not have a toggle for older models? Since they used the updated belf HD textures as the base why couldn't they just implement the BC version of belves for their "old grafix" toggle??
>>747575073Making existing armor fit those races would actually take a significant amount of work, especially female ogres since a base model doesn't even exist. They should've just added high elves to alliance and forsaken elves to horde. No effort by blizzard required and it doesn't rape the existing setting.
>>747575073Don't like playing horde but I had to make a fem maghar when they dropped.
The reality is that they were going to give us elves immediately no matter what. 90% of the biggest wow addicts are elf/transmog enthusiasts
>>747575232humans 'other' their own kind all the time, why wouldn't other human derived creatures do the same?
>>747574513>bix nood muhfugguh you wouldnt say dat to my face crackavery low impulse control kinda moid-coded post js
>>747575132uh sorry anon you're never getting furlbogs or ogres or goblins, the higher ups in suits said they won't sell, they looked at the metrics and people are only interested in playing elf races so all the next race releases will be elf races. we make a profit from hueshifti- i mean making them don't you know
>>747575073>tf no dark iron dwarf gf to drink and fuck with
So what new race are they going to give us in TLT? They've added a new playable race in each of the last 3 expansions
>>747575073are these mods or from pservers
>>747575132I'd rather see blue elves running around than these things or vulpera. Die furfag
>>747575505probably some titan construct race who defend the heart chamber who gives a shit
>>747575073they'll sell these skins for 30 bucks a pop don't you worry your pretty little headand you WILL buy them
>>747572554>no draeQUEENSeww
>>747575359ye, but should have been high elf for ally and undead elves for horde, people would lose their shit over undead elf hunter f.ex
>>747572554What garbage private server is this from?
>want to play forsaken pally and larp dark souls>remember undead models are hunched freaks with bones sticking out their backnevermind
>>747572554Im getting the itch to play WoW, what's the QRD?Is there no reason to come back to wowowawa?
RIP
>>747575698one managed by greedy retails who saw a quick buck to be earned and have never played or enjoyed vanilla
Be honest, NO ONE would play these things
>>747575505It'll be something completely new and made up for the expansion. The Dracthyr, Earthen and Haranir were made up for the expansion they were released in. Well, the Haranir were technically introduced before Midnight.
>>747572554this is such a strange decision
>>747575730it looks good, tons of new content in leveling range too, just ignire the retarded new ra´´paywall race.
>>747574474She probably just seething the human a look Europeans or algo. T never played wow
can you really blame them for doing blue blood elves?classic forever seems like a safe toe in the pool thing and isn't as adventerous or daring as it could have been with the financial backing of M$creating an actual new race would have required effort in making all armor pieces fit on them. with blood elf import that's already done for themall the map and everything is laid out for them already, hyjal is bascially already created, they just have to add reused retail mobs and voilà new area! same with dungeons, the code is already there you just add mobs and use existing assets and maybe use lower texturesnothing really screams effort to me... sure it's interesting but it's not as high effort as I would have hoped for it... its like the bare minimum in case it flops in a few monthsa netural race is just so lazy and red flag imo, they really couldnt be bothered to create a new race for both alliance and horde? oh no I guess that would have required effort and care and passiondont get me started on the fucking opt in transmog and HD fog graphics and shitty retail UI jesus christ..
>>747575780speak for yourself elftroon
>>747575553Eat shit they ain't furfags they're insane rabid bear injuns.
>>747575838stopfuckingtypinglikethisitis veryannoying
>>747575780I'd 100% play them if you can be a double headed ogre mage/warlock
Why do they even bother having two factions anymore? When is the last time this has even been relevant?
>>747575846The female ogre legitimately looks like 60% of the trannies I have seen.
2 head Ogre-racial>Can cast two spells at once and triple the base intellect of a subhuman 1 head ogre
>>747573128Honestly this. Best thing they did was shit the bed immediately
>>747575780Wrong.
>>747575930it's also not an official model
>>747572554The people working on WoW today are fucking retarded. This is so ridiculous it looks and feels like a parody. I can't believe people are excited for this, let alone still play WoW in 2026.
>>747575985How would you make a female ogre that doesn't look like a tranny while also remaining consistent with how ogres look in WoW?
>>747575780I would have an ogre fire mage and a warrior up faster than you can say skyelf. Admittedly there would be exactly zero female ogre players unless they make them fiona from shrek cutesy and something they're not..
>>747575909here you go brocan you really blame them for doing blue blood elves? classic forever seems like a safe toe in the pool thing and isn't as adventerous or daring as it could have been with the financial backing of M$. creating an actual new race would have required effort in making all armor pieces fit on them. with blood elf import that's already done for them. all the map and everything is laid out for them already, hyjal is bascially already created, they just have to add reused retail mobs and voilà new area! same with dungeons, the code is already there you just add mobs and use existing assets and maybe use lower textures. nothing really screams effort to me... sure it's interesting but it's not as high effort as I would have hoped for it... its like the bare minimum in case it flops in a few months. a netural race is just so lazy and red flag imo, they really couldnt be bothered to create a new race for both alliance and horde? oh no I guess that would have required effort and care and passion. dont get me started on the fucking opt in transmog and HD fog graphics and shitty retail UI jesus christ..
>>747573395They are inter dimensional travelers, first contact in outland was already a leap.
>>747573395They just put fucking Skytrannies in who gives a shit
High Elves and Ogres would've been the easiest lay-up for classic+. How did they fuck it up
>>747575909no
>>747573424>flipped elfHome
People who are complaining just don't realize they aren't the target audience. This wasn't made for you, yet you will still play it like a good goy, so Blizzard atracts the actual whales who will buy the elves + retards with low impulse control like (You).
>>747576151They needed a pretty race for horde and could cut costs by 50% if they didn't make two different races.
>>747572729>Who asked for this?literally not one single person
I think this is the best way it could've worked out. Forever will have no purchase price, just a sub. People who want new races get thrown a bone (and they fund the game for non-trannies), and people who don't want that shit aren't forced to buy it. Win win.
I'm rolling a fem gnome priest pocket pussy and there is nothing you can do to stop me
>maybe its worth getting a month and just corpse caping skyfag elves in wpvp until I get banned for targeted paypig bashing>see the racial and talent changeslmfao NOPE
>>747576120Can you really blame them for doing blue blood elves? Classic forever seems like a safe toe in the pool thing and isn't as adventurous or daring as it could have been with the financial backing of M$. Creating an actual new race would have required effort in making all armor pieces fit on them. With blood elf import that's already done for them. All the map and everything is laid out for them already, hyjal is basically already created, they just have to add reused retail mobs and voilà new area! Same with dungeons, the code is already there you just add mobs and use existing assets and maybe use lower textures. Nothing really screams effort to me; sure it's interesting but it's not as high effort as I would have hoped for; its like the bare minimum in case it flops in a few months. A neutral race is just so lazy and a red flag, they really couldn't be bothered to create a new race for both alliance and horde? Oh no I guess that would have required effort and care and passion. Dont get me started on the fucking opt in transmog and HD fog graphics and shitty retail UI jesus christ.
>>747576345I'm going to gape your toon my my undead paladin cock.
>>747572554Who the hell is that?
>Pandas, the blood elf versionI can't believe people still pay a monthly subscription to play this dogshit
>>747572554This hurts to look at more, stop supporting tranny games.
I wonder if nugen 4chan users know that selling races/expansions/classes was standard practices for decades>I don't want to play the new raceOkay don't buy the goyim pass for the new race?
>>747576062fat and ugly female =/= tranny
Why not just add ogres to horde (body type 1 only) and broken to alliance? It seems like a lot more sense. The broken hate the orcs. The ogres are canonically horde from WC3.
>>747572850it all keepsfalling for it falling for it falling for it
>>747576597classic players havent quite yet gone through the battered housewife cycle like retoilet enjoyers who buy 50 dollar store mounts every other month.
>>747576062i don't care, and not my jobwon't be playing a female ogre anyway
>>747575941kek. It's hard to go back once you've done dota's 0 int muscle wizard version.A lesser multicast proc could for sure be a racial though.
>>747576625Ogres aren't just big humans, they have distinct traits that make the concept of a female ogre particularly repulsive and troonlike.
>>747572554I was in the vanilla closed beta, but I have almost no nostalgia for this game. I used to argue that Forsaken and Night Elves should remain independent factions and that players who chose either race can choose who to align themselves with. Cross-faction races seem kinda dumb to me now.
>>747572554Wtf, that is real?
Skyborne feels more trans-coded than female ogres
>>747576936Of course it is.
>>747577037Yeah, trannies would never play as anything "ugly"
>>747577037Would you rather have what trannies would play (attractive females) or what trannies look like (fat, ugly, disgusting monsters) in a video game?
>>747572554>The prevailing fan theory for why the Skyborne don't exist in retail is that the Exodar smashed into their flying island as they were landing on KalimdorHave you thanked the Draenei for their contribution to society?
>>747577103The spam-advertisement this board does for every ugly as hell triple A woke movie-game proves this untrue.
>>747575342>Making existing armor fit those races would actually take a significant amount of workThis shit has to be the most made up reason for not implementing something in all the history of game development. There is no way they "fit" all the armor on a piece by piece basis, every slot probably just has a base template that is fitted to the race once and the textures for each different armor piece are then projected on that template. Fitting armor for a new race would literally take an intern a day, then maybe a bit more to fix helmet and shoulder positioning or something.
>>747577145The actual prevailing theory is that Al'akir just fucking murdered them all
>>747577205It's more work than you'd think and it scales out of control the more stuff you add to the game.
>>747577205If you don't know how this works then please don't reply to me you redditfrog dumb tourist
I feel like the race itself being in ’skywall’ which is another plane of existence is disengenous to the whole idea of classic plus. When in classic did we ever go to another realm or plane of existence? Never. Everything was in azeroth. We didn't even have the caverns of time or emerald dream portals open.
>>747572554It's funny how troon-coded they are>blue skin>sky"borne" and ridiculously long nameno doubt their starting area will feature quests written by troons
>>747572554>People hated neutral race slop in retail because it made the factions less distinguishable>”I know let’s add a neutral race to our version of WoW that’s meant to give vanilla players what they want”How are they this fucking stupid. Just give Alliance high elves or blood elves and Horde goblins or ogres, it’s so simple.
>>747577396The Molten Core is part of the firelands.
>>747577608No, the Molten Core was still part of Azeroth, even if the Firelands did bleed into it
>>747574243>At least I'm gonna fashion mog humans>*Toggles off transmog so I don't need to look at your shitty mtx armor and sends you pictures of your character in clown armor*
>>747577103>>747577037>>747577104>mfw 15 years ago they could have just dropped an ogre with no gender select with all male models and it'd be fine or just add some lore blurb of the female ogres being home tending to the stew and ogrelings, but now that would invite all the mentally ill to insane discourse surrounding what gender your ogre actually is
>>747577396They have no idea what players actually want. They even proved it, they made a joke about the community not knowing what they want, then bashed you over the head saying that Forever will be built by player feedback, which makes zero sense. Well it makes sense when you take into account that blizzard fostered a mentality devoid of all logic.
>It should have been (Insert race that no one would have played)
>>747575342Armors don't even exist in WoW, they're just pallet swaps over your character model, they're pretty much pajamas.With shoulderpads added on top.
>>747577753Anon, the main reason why they never added ogres was because they couldn't find out a way to make the females an attractive option.
>>747573165yes it is and I won by you replying :^)
>>747577812Even having no new races would’ve been better than what we’re getting.I genuinely think they should remove them.
>>747577812It should have been high elves if it needed to be elves in order to make the most profit. Next dumb fucking strawman?
>>747577852Just don't add female ogres then. And add a female-only race like harpies to make up for it.
>>747577905forever is a monkey paw game. i still dunno why they have 10 man, 20 man, and then onyxia as a 40 man raid ahd then the following raids are 10 and 20 man only. like why?
>>747577951Beasts barely capable of coherent thought shouldn't be playable races.
>>747572554they're just a stupid tax, they have the worst racials in the game by a good margin
I don't get it, chat. Just play retail.
>>747572554Remove the retail elf and it'll be fine. Fuck Microsoft
>>747577951They could have done that, but they didn't. They probably mulled it over and decided that consistency was better than having exceptions to the rule.
>>747572554>>747573870>"""classic+""">look inside>it's retoilet-Anyone who expected otherwise is a dipshit.
>>747577852Female trolls and orcs are already hideous so I don’t see the issue
Explain to me why I should care about a race that I won't be playing anyway
>>747578012Because it is inspired by classic WoW where player caps for instanced content wasn't standardized like it would be in TBC & beyond?
>>747577357Well then how does it work?create race model -> map different piece of armor texture shape templates onto different places on the model -> every armor texture is now automatically fit onto the new modelOr do you mean to tell me that Blizzard has 10 interns locked in a basement somewhere and for each new piece of loot, they have to manually move, deform and fit the armor piece on every single race? Hmm maybe they also have to do it separately for each different skin and hair color too. Probably when they recolored blood elves to be blue, they also had to re-fit all the armor because they are a different color.
>>747578012I think they said the game is going to take place between the end of Warcraft 3 and molten core. They probably want the release schedule to be an easier 40 man like onyxia and then 10 to 20 mans for the whole year to build up to the actual MC raid and beyond.
>>747575780so should tauren be removed because they don't have as many players as humans and elves? what a stupid excuse for not adding things to the game.
>>747572554>it's classic plus, it's your old vanilla experience but with extra content based on lore from the RTS games!>it also has HD models from retail>and gay blue elves that were never mentioned in either vanilla or the RTS games for BOTH factions>and undead paladins for some reasonlet me guess, it also has fruit paintings and censored jokes and no /spit?
>>747573424This is fake because blizzard would never add high elves in the game to spite alliance
>>747574348Would be funny if they added a scrollbar.
>>747572554The moment the bear started acting like “le heckin’ doggo” in the trailer I knew it was going to be shit.This company can’t do anything right anymore.
Tauren plainsrunning looks pawg. 30% movement speed just from walking
>>747578206>also has fruit paintings and censored jokes and no /spit?You have no idea how bad things are.
>>747577940High Elves would be neutral?
>>747575342after blizzard not giving a single flying fuck about Dracthyr having most of the equipment invisible on them this arguement is no longer valid
>>747578337Horde could have forsaken high elves.
>>747578260Its so Disney coded its insane. Peacecraft all the way.I think it's actually because blizzard wants to actually launch a theme park some day.
>>747578260Trvke. They took the legendary original cinematic and turned it into disney bullshit
>>747577205Putting armor on the ogres wouldn't be a problem and blizzard even said the reason dracthyr don't have actual armor was an artistic choice not a technical one.The real problem would be fitting through doorways.There's only four ways they could solve that:1. Allow ogres to just clip through the tops of doorways2. Make them no larger than tauren3. Give them some mechanic where they duck down before walking through a doorway4. Let them be blocked off from walking through doorways that are too small
>>747572554>that'll be $30 plus tip sir!And Blizzfaggots are actually defending it too. "Hurr hurr what are you, poor?" and they'll be singing the same tune once Blizzard eventually starts putting raids behind paywalls.
>>747578167they're a dumb OC race that looks ripped straight out of retail, a hideous eyesore with no regard for pre-existing worldbuilding this alone is indicative that blizzard doesn't know what designing the game with "classic sensibilities and aesthetics" even means
>>747578168>need to get 40 players together to do ony every week>but your main raids will only be 20 players>and you need to split your 20 mans into 2 10 man on a different dayit's a raid leading nightmare with faggots kvetching about a teams and b teams. >>747578189i wouldn't be surprised if they turn mc into a 20 man raid because what do 20 man raid groups do if they were just pugging onyxia and mc needs 40 members? go on a mass recruitment spree and invite 20 new players into their guild of 20 players? that's way too many people to bring in at once without changing the guild.
>>747577396what a sick mog.>’skywall’ which is another plane of existence is disengenous to the whole idea of classic plus.yup, and the aesthetics of the architecture just scream shadowlands. so does very glowy special elf. I fear that by not committing to the osrs approach of player feedback and voting, they simply won't ever get the vanilla spirit, no matter hie much they say they do. They need those checks and balances to deliver on it I yhink.
>>747578523You don't need 40 people to do 40 man raidEh you know what yeah you're right whatever no point trying to talk to your kind
>>747578167because paypigs will exist around you and remind you that you are playing a game by nu-blizzard and not a wc3-accurate continuation of classic
>>747578139>Classic+>has retail features WOW NO WAY????
>>747578541just like with pandaren all of that stuff was in wc3 you dumb casual
>>747578423A few seconds in i thought>oh fuck they're gonna show the human mage, the elf druid, the orc, the tauren and the warlockbut then Gimli and his pet bear went on adventures and had a load of funsies! yaaaay! ^_^
>>747578161Female trolls and orcs are basically just blue and green human females with different hair and teeth models. They were planning on having the female trolls be ugly hunched over freaks like the male trolls but changed them.
>>747578484That's a fair point>2. Make them no larger than taurenI think that would be completely okay, see picrel. I think there's tons of ogres in the game that are this size, isn't there?But the armor fitting argument I've seen being used for years and years and years even regarding other races.
>>747578541I’m hoping they’ll make this project more community-driven going forward now that it’s revealed. The reaction to the skyborne is pretty much universally nevative on reddit, which is the main site the devs look at, so they’ll take that to heart.
>>747578628you are a buckbroken goypigclassic+ never meant injecting retail art assets and cash shop garbage into vanilla
>>747578541blizzard definitely does with how out of touch they are. though it would be pretty funny if they set up content voting and all the offered choices are ridiculous awful crap.
>>747573883>Ogres/Naga/Sethrakthose are ugly, no
>>747578732>so they’ll take that to heart.
>>747578392>>747578260>>747578423>>747578716it's funny when secondaries act like vanilla was this super serious mature gritty grimdark game when 80% of the quest names are pop culture references
World of Warcraft: Forever The Raped
>>747573424>>747578257This, they're being malicious on purpose at this point
>Turn off new graphics>Turn off new ui>Turn off new transmog>Don't buy the new raceThe people spamming complaints are third worlders angry that their private servers with paid transmog and heirlooms got shut down.
>>747578845i see your point. maybe they could ask someone who does not have a hole in his chest.
>>747578892the problem is it means the developers are stupid and don't understand classic or the classic vibe and over time the game is going to be so full of shit you can't ignore that it becomes retail
>>747578892>the stupid bullshit is okay because you can just disable itthen why play in the first place?$0.02 has been deposited to your battle.net balance
>>747578648>Skyrunner
>>747578892You will still be forced to see nu elves with the new graphics
>>747578892>Don't buy the play the new race>Still have to deal with other players using the other race>Still have to go to new zones draped in the new race's design>Still have to see the new race in screens such as character creation>Still have to see the new race in new merch and official key art>Still have to see people such as myself post screenshots of the new characters online
>>747578282>Incubus They're not called Succubus or Incubus now, they're Sayaad now.
>>747578723Ogre height is all over the place canonically. They're anywhere from barely tauren sized to borderline kaiju. My headcanon is they work kinda like 40k orks where the stronger they are and the longer they live they just keep growing bigger.
>>747578850Yeah cause the quest names referencing some movie sometimes is totally the same as making everything Disney.
Either don't play, or quit crying. Some of you would have been better off with dads that beat the living shit out of you instead of you developing into some sort of full-grown pseudo-man who kinda looks like a real guy but whines endlessly like a massive cunt.
>>747578612>because paypigs will exist around youthisit's the same issue with all the paid mounts in Classicyes, I don't have to buy them and never will, but the masses of retarded normies will buy them and I have to see that shit every time I'm in a city
>>747573202they could just put in high elves for ali and blood elves for horde instead of this tasteless shit desu
>>747578892You're going to see all the furfags using the new druid forms. Skyborne is a total furry tax for those cool forms.
>>747578892see you in three months when you're complaining your faction is 90% blue elvesi'll keep your "fell for it again" award nice and shiny
>>747579064j-just ignore it chud! just let people enjoy things!!
If you wanted classic+ you are retarded. If you think this is good you are retarded. There's no spectrum of Blizzfag, it's all one color.
>>747579090>it's DISNEY!same vibe as "it's tumblr!"aka you can't actually articulate what you don't like so you just barf buzzwords
>>747578850>secondariesI had ~23.000 hours. when i quit in 2019. That's ~2.6 years of playtime over all characters.>vanilla was this super serious mature gritty grimdark gameYe.>when 80% of the quest names are pop culture referencesDidn't stop the game from taking itself seriously outside of that. This is like the wolverine game that's gonna bomb soon. People in charge of the game don't know wtf they're doing. Microsoft put its foot down so the party will end in a few years unless they pull their heads out of their asses.
>>747578892Cmon babe, just get back with me, I promise I won't get drunk and beat ya no more *pounds a quart of jack right in front of you*.
>>747579178you tell them xixternow hurry up our MC run with 30 warrior DPS is in a few minutes, make sure you have full world buffs and consumes so we can kill the bosses in 5 seconds and ignore mechanics
>Don't like it? Don't buy it.
>>747578850Those were just easter eggs and weren’t driving the whole tone of the game. I played vanilla in 2005 when I was 9 years old and the tone of the game felt quite serious to me. I never felt like I was playing a game made for women or kids.
>Just don't buy it. How does this affect you personally?
>>747572554My eyes are bleeding
>>747579283>"those were just easter eggs">literally everywhere in every zone in the gameuh huh
>>747579248WoW is for faggots, XIV is for faggots. Stop indulging these degenerate losers in thinking anybody actually cares about this. Go back to China.
>>747574243people think you can have MMO's in 2008 + 18 when this is the type of subhuman you gotta play with
>Tranny devs add new special elves with the slow fall racialToo bad it won't auto activate when they kick those chairs out from under themselves
>>747579275>>747579318Same shit happens in TBC anniversary. You go into shatt and there's 20 sparkledragon mounts flying around at any place in the city
>>747578892>Turn off new graphicsAny new asset is going to use the modern artstyle, the toggle is a smokescreen>Don't buy the new raceIt's a fucking MMO, they'll be everywhere
>>747574121you can turn off cosmetics lil bro...
>>747579363lel
>>747579275>I lost the voting with my wallet!!!! STOP THE COUNT
>>747575236yes, so its still in the game, so its shit
>>747579376Can I turn off the faggot elves?
>>747579283the essence of a good reference or in-joke is that it's not in your face and if you don't get it (or look past it) everything still makes senseblizzard's later crops or writers don't grasp this and lots of content fails either the first or the second condition. sometimes both.
WHY ISNT BLIZZARD TRYING TO APPEAL TO ME INDIVIDUALLY AND INSTEAD MADE ELVES
>>747578892naive of you to think they wont make it mandatory after a year or twowhy would they keep making two versions of models instead of just HD? all those delicious Retail assets they just have to import into Forever with 0 work required to make it "fit"
>trannymog>retextured blood elves make up over 50% of the population on both factions>cash shop mtx>10 and 25 man raids>mountsmogscheevosdid they forget the classic part of classic+? who is this even for?
>crying about immersion in an MMOsingleplayer games exist for a reason
>>747578972>>747578954>>747579064>>747579152>>747579143>n-no!>the game i have never played isn't appealing to me!
Should have named them Starborne.Missed opportunity
>>747579458anon they're elves. just use an axe.
>2018>people are still playing MMOsthey died back in 2012
>>747579508>who is this even for?Trannies and the raped
>>747579564Introducing our new race of elves, the Stillborne
where were you when blizzard got mogged by a clanker?
What was even the inspiration for this race? They said their whole creative drive was filling in and expanding unfinished stuff in vanilla. This isn't that at all. Sounds like they really went for wantibg to surprise pkayers and doing "something completely new"
With the Wolverine game and now Blue Blood Elves, do you really still need any more proof that modern AAA studios are composed by and directed by people who don't actually play video games?Both 4chong and r*ddit hate the blue elves. It's so stand offish it makes you wonder who runs the show over there.They are butchering Classic.
>>747576415But that's what the death knight is for...
>>747579064"Just ignore it" and "nobody cares about x" are the most common phrases blizzdrones use to deflect issues anyone could have with the game. It's almost like they are following a book with instructions.
>People who won't play game complain about game not appealing to them>Wtf why is Classic+ adding new features
>>747572736but enough about sylvanas in the sylvanas expac ft. sylvanas
>>747579629Dawg if I wanted AIs "opinion" on something I'm literally two clicks away from it. Fuck off.
>>747579664>Nooo the game I'm not gonna play did something I don't like
>>747578169It's called UV mapping and it's not actually that simpleask me how I know
>>747574513absolute glowie
>>747579664A lot of people say that about all sorts of thing. Falling into illogical schizo nonsense such as serious belief in them following a guidebook for this will make you just as insufferable as some dumb fuck shill.
>>747579629This is why "creatives" fear AI
>>747579670>>747579701tranny meltdown alert
>>747573247did a streamer say this?
>>747578892This one REALLY upset the private server and third worldies. They're big mad that classic+ is doing what everybody who still plays asked for.
>>747579629Because modern blizzard is fucking retarded and AI would do a better job. I feel like i'm on crazy pills sometimes where people forgot that modern blizzard sucks. Wanting modern Blizzard to ruin Classic is wild.
>>747579712Then you'd know it has no baring on the t-shirt armor of wow right? Retard?
>>747579632>retail players almost exclusively play blood elves and void elves>we want them to play our new vanilla+ realm thing because they are the biggest pay pigs and will buy every new mount and pet on the shop>so lets whip up another belf recolor so they feel compelled to check it out for a bit and hopefully drop lots of cash before they slink back to retail
>>747579632>What was even the inspiration for this race?$$$, and a humiliation ritual for old school fans so they know what WoW is now and who it's for (not them).
>>747573534>chatgpt comes into the thread to spout random bullshit in an attempt to pass off as someone who knows anything about the settingfailed
>>747578169a bunch of armor has actual geometry, which does need to be fit manually. carefully, if you don't want it to look like shit.
>>747579632"We need the Blood Elf playerbase"
>>747579789I literally showed an example of me doing exactly what you're talking about lmfao
>>747572554What would Jailer's plan for blue elves be?
>>747579632they were mentioned in warcraft 3.
I just don't feel like giving a single dime to shitzard you know you're sponsoring trans rights by subbing to wow ? I didn't know you guys were soon eager to support the lgbtxyz community like that couldn't be me tho
>>747575909it's so we know they copy pasted it from reddit man
>>747579757Got caught huh?
>>747579965You jest but I'm betting they'll mention them in the new warcraft 3 expension to retroactively make them canon
>>747579820>>747579903then why didn't they add high elves instead? this explanation doesn't add up. Why didn't they consult the community about ghis? like just make a poll nigga
>>747580009Yes but you can never stop us all Blizzard pays us $100 an hour to destroy 4chan you will never be rid of us
>>747576193>australian elffixd
>>747572554wow have such a dogshit aesthetics holy fuckhow does anyone can play this garbage
>>747578169>automatically they would have to touch every piece of armor manually one by one. yes, the model is the same, obviously because it's the player model, but the artwork, the actual texture is individual and has to be adjusted. it would be tedious and nothing an AAA isn't capable of but its not automatic>10 interns locked in a basement somewheremajor AAA studios are comfy as fuck they do fuck all work and just goof off all day.. why do you think people want to work there so bad? they have loads of money with virtually no costs since their product is just digital, the only thing they pay for is computers and licenses for programs. AAA studios just swim in free cash with huge benefits and perks. People don't go there to work they go there to fuck around in the "work culture" The asian starbucks barista from blizzcon is a director now for christs sake
>>747580042They've known players hate special snowflake elves for a decade since they added void elves to legion. They do this intentionally because they hate the players.
>#nochanges>#onlychangewhatiwant>#notclassic>#turtlewowany private server /chad/s here to counter-shill the blizzdrones?TURTLE 4 LYFE!
>>747578892>turn off dungeon finder>turn off buffed stats>turn off buffed talents>turn off buffed racials>turn off new meta every patchthat's just at launch so good luck>turning off token>turning off fomo>turning off mount with every vendor taking up 3/4 of your screen>turning off trading post
>turning the game into FFXIAbsolute kino
>>747579363
>>747580042Somebody at Blizz has an autistic fixation on hamfisting more elf variants into the game. Probably the same guy who made those fucked up Na'vi ripoffs for the last retail expac.
>>747572554niggas still play WoW? LmaO
>achievements that earn you account wide talentslol lmao
>>747579712what makes it more complicated than that? If you always have the main armor landmarks in the same part of the map, it should eliminate most issues, shouldn't it? If a piece of armor looks a little janky from time to time it's no huge problem, I mean it already happens in the game with new armors
>>747580156So true sisterhttps://letmegooglethat.com/?q=turtle+wow+programmer+socks
>>747578850Pretending not to understand
lol @ all this poorfag seethe
>>747580156Looking forward to playing actually competently made south sea pirates content and the like unlike turtle wow's unambitious barebones amateur mod shit.
>>747580463wtf how dare they*mails over 500 gold and 4 backpacks to my new alt*
>>747580463makes sense for a game that will focus on the leveling ,making leveling alts a big part of it to sustain playtime.
>>747580686>this is three hundred dollar premium diarrhea, poorfag
for anybody wondering, I totally would fuck this cutie on stage
>>747572554Blizzard had 3 choices1. High Elves for alliance, Ogres for horde. Classic doesn't have that many items compared to retail so mapping every equippable item to work on ogres would be well within Blizzard's capabilities. This is the choice that would make EVERYBODY happy, even the most bitter, autistic, virgin of doomsayers would have absolutely nothing to say about this.2. High Elves for Alliance, Blood Elves for horde. this is the lazy choice, but it doesn't require any lore breaking and would make people go "oh, ok cool I guess"3. donut steel OC elves for both factions. this is the choice that requires the most effort because you have to create entirely new zones and stories while trying not to piss everybody off.they took the worst choice, and as a result pissed everybody off.
>>747575780the main problem is that ogres should have like 15% increased str as a racial, maybe even 25% at the expense of somethingit would feel really bad having a stick armed female human hit harder than you ever
>>747580139I appreciate the longer response but I still don't see>the actual texture is individual and has to be adjustedas granted. If you fit the body landmarks right to the template, I'd expect it to usually work out reasonably well. What's gonna be so different between races that what is a waist and knees on one's leg armor is different on the other race?>AAA studios being lazyWell yeah but that kinda works for my point that the given "reason" is just an excuse
I'm gonna be honest, I think them making such a gay faggoty race cost 30 dollars to unlock is perfect for extracting money out of retarded paypigs while leaving the actual races alone.
>>747574121I mean, yes? these are pretty tame. they don't look like neon colored vomit. they look like something you could find in vanilla, looks like theyre styled after the sentinels a little?
>classic+ is being designed by mexican belftroonsno wonder it's going to be a flop
>>747581050you'll have to look at them run around everywhere around you
Having small servers was a perfect solution to the close-nit server feeling Blizzard claims is good for these games>Blizzard makes mega servers for Classic where there's almost no community outside of your guild and layering to further rape the game>Forever makes infinite servers where there basically is no server at all????
>>747580915post pics so i can beat off and/or make fun of you
>>747580926It's frustrating especially because there is already quite a few races they could've picked that have a big presence in the vanilla world but they immediately went straight to donut steels.Not just helves and ogres but goblins, earthen, dark iron dwarves, forest trolls, black rock/dragonmaw orcs, all really basic additions that wouldn't have left everyone confused.
>>747581050I'd pay $60 for a cash shop skin that removes all the woke shit and cringe blue elves or elves with african skin tones
>>747572554>blood elves and draenei bad because they don't fit the classic setting>but blue blood elves from cities in the sky that are nowhere to be seen in the classic lore and story are good>and add some transmog, new disney models and achievements while we're at itClassic WoW's fanbase is so compromised it's beyond funny.
I don't think I've ever seen a company reuse as much shit as blizz does, these blood elf animations are older than some players are and they still reuse it again and again
>>747581136>blizzard spins up 10 small realms>8 of them dies as everyone changes to their dedicated mega-realm>1 realm is 99% horde 1% alliance>the other is 99% alliance 1% hordeyou classicfucks idolize the "muh small tight knit community" meme, yet you all pick the mega servers
You stupid fat retards won't acheve anything by complaining on an anonymous forum. Create a petition and start demanding that blizz revert, otherwise nothing will happen. They've said they will listen, if the backlash is hard enough then they have to
>>747575941>2 headed ogre>requires 2 players to play>takes up 2 slots in a party>1 head is a warrior, always, the other mage or warlock, no other classes available>health gained from stamina increased by 100%>can only equip 1 set of gear and you have to choose which head to prioritise, 2 helmet slots, however>when 1 player is offline, his head will be asleep>the warrior has priority over movement, the caster can cast while moving when the warrior is online, but you're slowed by like 50-75%critical kino of this magnitude would never happen
>>747581271>everyone doesI don't you dumb nigger stop replying to posts like this
>>747581123That "ultra thick border for everything" spam in gear is 100% retail slop
>>747581134I have to look at gnomes every single day too.
>>747581252they're even adding retail models into this shit - don't even bother to downres them to fit the style better. just smack dab actual retail models tossed in what should be a classic world
I get that it's trying to be a twist on vanilla WoW but more high fantasy, it's weird that they're shoehorning in a new race that looks like high elfs for both sides because they're worried that Horde side won't have a pretty race but Alliance side would miss out.Anyway, I hope they leave the Burning Legion as plain evil demons from hell instead of races from other worlds corrupted by fel energy.
OH MY GOD WHY IS BLIZZARD ADDING A PAID RACE?>Everquest did this 30 years ago alreadyRUINED! ITS ADDING CHANGES#nochanges#nochangesclassic+
>>747574491>Yup, women wouldn't touch the horde if they didn't implement hotter racesthey existed and were always married middle aged women playing fem tauren
>>747572729>Who asked for this?WE ARE THE SKYBORNETHIS BUG IS AIRBORNEWE ARE THE NEW PORNOUR KIND IS NEWBORN
>>747581278They're already selling them, it's not getting reverted>They've said they will listenLMAO
>>747581271more than half of era and anniversary servers were close to 50/50 this is retail you faggot larper
so with the new single realm, does it mean the entire game shares one economy / auction house like in runescape?
>>747581223maybe goblins would've been the best choice. earthen, dark irons, forest trolls, blackrock are cool but people would be angry about a reskin being added instead of a truly new race
>>747580946the shirt on left is a gnome model and the shirt on right is a blue elf modelthe texture (emoji) itself is the same on both but are obviously different because of the underlying modelthe emoji would have to be redone for all existing emojis (the armor textures for all armor pieces) for the blue elvesyou "could" do a lot of just resizing and stretching, but that would lead to artifacts and things looking wrong, which means you'll have to do a lot of redrawing to make stuff fitthis is why we got blood elves, because everything already fits
They just confirmed that Horde and Alliance can do dungeons and raids together.This is just retail lite. and there is a progression tracker for account wide rewards...
>>747581390If the backlash is hard enough...Do you want me to ask AI to create a petition for you since you guys are too lazy to do anything?
I've never played world of warcraft before, waiting for Evercold. Is WOW Forever a good time to start the game? I'm not interested in the other versions as they've been running for donkey's years I want to be able to start from day dot, the beginning with everyone else and for me my thinking is this is the last chance I'll be able to do this as I missed out on trying Classic, I was too busy with work and studying.I've got a bunch of free time and really tempted to try this. Shill it to me please.
>>747581136Blizzard didn't make mega servers, fans of streamers did. You fags wanted to be on asmonserver so bad that you killed every other server.
>>747581453>They just confirmed that Horde and Alliance can do dungeons and raids together.
>On a Tuesday while in a Forest or Woodland Area, have a chance to Stun a Worgen for 4 secondsBlizzard is back baby
>>747581405it's not a single realm.You have to choose Normal, PVP, RP or HC and then also a language (ENG/BR/ESP)So sharding and layering still exists.
>>747581427Why would vanilla players prefer a retail reskin race over a vanilla reskin race like Blackrock Orc or Amani troll?
>>747581508>I've never played world of warcraft beforewhy the fuck would you wanna start
>>747581396Anniversary realms are 50/50 cause there's only 1 realm for PvE and PvP respectivelyEra was completely fucked, only saved by everyone moving to the mega realmPlease kill yourself
>>747572554PLAY OCTO WOW
>>747572554oh wow, it's actually the same fucking race for each faction. it's not even a different and unique race for each. i'm not playing that shit, fuck that
>>747581556goblins aren't retail. goblins have been here since W2 which published in 1995
>>747581508you missed the boat a long time ago pal, stay the fuck away blizz does not deserve your money
PFFFFFAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>747581547ah but like within "normal" everyone shares right? which is still better than previously with multiple split up "normal" realms with separate economies, in my desu opinion.Also with sharding / layering they should have done like runscape and made it possible to explicitly hop between them. Either way im probably gonna play wow forever when it comes out.
>>747581621This can't be real
>>747581134nobody will actually make them blue. everybody will pick the blood elf skin colors
>>747581621is that a heccing foxo floofer is the background???
>>747581516Classic massively increased the server capacity compared to the game pre-2015, which is what I mean. There were so many players on every server, except for "dead" ones, that you'd rarely see the same guy more than once. This is what I mean by "mega servers". The dead servers were the fun ones to play on.
They could have pulled a huge Sonic movie/No man's sky prestige win here by just making it high elves and and taking some time to redesign it. But they wanted to do the Todd shadowdrop meme, so there's no time. Enjoy your sky elves.
>>747581358Nah, there's no excusing this when you look at it objective. It's seriously just to make horde players to pay to be elves (BE is the most common horde race so there's a huge demand). Quite frankly some of the greediest behavior you will ever see in a MMO.
>>747581669No, not everyone shares 1 mega server if choosing Normal for example.The server tech will just make sure that players you have interacted with / guild mates are "tied" and will prioritize them being on the same shard.
>>747581621The fuck kinda dance even is that?
>>747581508I mean you might as well, it's gonna be as fresh as fresh can be considering there are new zones and expanded zones. Vanilla/Classic is very approachable honestly so if you're interested just go for it.
>>747581729>prestige winretail players love OC elves though, they are gushing about them
>>747581686Yes. It's one of these from Dragonflight.
>>747581621>after two decades NE females still have the best walk, attack, cast and dance animations by a mile
>>747572554Trannies definitely do hurt to look at, so why support a game that so vehemently supports them?
>first name agarthan>last name kirkpeople are gonna be so racist to anyone who didnt make their skyborne white and blonde lmfao
>>747581776Looks more like the result of a stroke than a dance.
>>747581621This is Shadowlands 2.
>>747572554any word on priest racials? any new classes per race?
>>747581606>goblins aren't retailThey were added in Cataclysm, which I am told is the start of retail WoW.
>>747581757MMOs sold paid races 30+ years ago little gup
>>747581854yes and gnome is busted
>>747581673https://youtu.be/xzTlYmYQLzk?t=810you best start believing
>>747581772wait did they say something like this? there will be only 1 realm you can pick per server type?
>>747581430I don't see your point, this is an outlier example, if your picrel. was done with any other shirt that does not have a literal image of something (like an emoji face) on it, it would look absolutely normal on both sides, without needing adjustments.And wow armors don't have literal images of stuff on them.
>>747581606Nah I mean why would people be angry over Blackrock Orcs and shit over the Bluesky elves? Goblis are cool in my book
From what they're describing this won't satisfy the feel of Vanilla at all.It's just Vanilla with Retail paint. Literally Retail Light
>>747581885This is selling the race they know people want and denying them the older free option. It is infinitely worse, there is a huge demand for their to be a horde race that isn't as ugly as the others and it's locked behind a $30 paywall..
>>747573202Then why the fuck didn't they go the obvious route of having High Elves?
Will WoW Forever keep the Classic EXP rates or will they end up being accelerated? If they do accelerate them can I enable trve vanilla 1x?
>>747581784I saw they're adding in 1000 new quests as well so it's not just new zones but new things to do that the old heads won't know automatically what to do and coast through. I like that it'll require a bit of communication.I'll try it for a month and see if it's for me or not then.I tried New World for a month, and that was enough for me and like I said I'm waiting for FF14 Evercold but that's not until next year and it still might very well be shit. I'm looking for that mmo to grab me for hundreds of hours.
>>747581453>This is just retail lite. and there is a progression tracker for account wide rewards...no shit, how else would horizontal progression work
>classic+>actually retail-
>Hurr durr Horde needs elves otherwise chinks won't play HordeAren't there sexy trolls in the lore now?Why not add them then.Better yet, just let the Horde be the chud faction than, that will have some actual vitriol to fuel the WAR on in World of WARcraft
wait a minute this is just sod
>>747572554Retail Minus is looking fierce and valid
>>747581862nigga r u retarted?
>>747581621please say sike
>>747581508it only costs $15 to try it for a month so you might as wellearly level wow is probably the best wow is so you'll immediately be getting the best experience the game has to offer, if you don't like it you can just quit
>>747581914well, that makes things a lot easier. hopefully my friend group picks alliance
>>747581862>>747581992You guys don't know what you're talking about
>>747582048not saying sike>>747581924
>>747572554Do new account still have to be subscribed for a month before they can trade and use the auction house?
>>747582004why do we need horizontal progression in the first place? just play retail
>>747582002If it clicks for you it'll definitely hold you over until Evercold, that's 2 solid months of MMO gaymin. Don't be afraid to reroll if a class isn't clicking with you after the first 10 or so levels. 1-20 is pretty breezy in terms of leveling speed and you'd get a feel for how you like it by then.
>>747582065yeah I'll give it a month and see if it's for me or not. Why not I guess as it's unlikely at least for a few years they'll do this again if at all.
I don't understand the appeal of this. It's Retail 2.0. Someone explain to me why this is exciting in the slightest.
>>747581980they wouldn't be as mad over blackrock as over blue elves, but they would still be mad because blackrock would just be a reskin instead of a new race, distinct from every other race in the faction
>>747573870
>>747581956>And wow armors don't have literal images of stuff on them.wtf do you think textures are? retardenjoy your last (You)
For comparison, it took retail WoW like 13+ years to add blood elf recolors with aposematic hair.Achievements were a WoTLK thing.Account wide is.. Pandaria, I want to say?Transmog was a 4.3 thing, but it was way more limited back then, too.Disney models were added in Warlords of Draenor.The UI was "updated" in DragonflightForever is starting with all of these. It has quite the headstart on its pozzification.
>>747582045Are you? You're asking for them to put in features from Cataclysm as if they're not just as non-Classic as blueberry elves.
>BLUE GENERIC ELVES>RETAIL-ESQUE PROFESSIONS>CLASSES COMPLETELY REWORKED>HORDE AND ALLIANCE CAN GROUP lmfao this shit gay as fuck. No one will be playing Forever after 3 months.
EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP I HAVE A REAL QUESTION! Can I spit and fart on people in WoW Forever?
>>747581136>>747581271launch layering into a few distinct named servers as population pressure drops is the correct model. let players transfer with ten days cooldown or so (but only to the majority faction if the receiving server is close-ish to faction balance).
>>747582084No, I know what I'm talking about. They could have simply added BE to horde since this is classic+ but they opted to charge the BE players $30 so they can be a blue elf instead. It is the ultimate sign of thing to come, the ultimate canary in the coal mine. If you have faith in Forever once you realize why Skyborne exists($30 tax on furries, the chinese, women, twinks and trannies), you're a sucker.
Reminder that a majority of the complainers are going to play and buy the goypass and goyrace and this strategy has worked effectively in every version of wow.
>>747582002Unless they restore the original rat-catcher tram quest and let me annoy other players with the flute forever by not finishing it, I'm not interested.
Warriors got nerfed hard. and dont seem to have fun stuff going on to make up for it. looks like sod all over again.hybrids buffed to crazy levels of course.
>>747579283It was always a game for teenagers and guys in their 20sThe writing was never "mature" or anythingAnd the art was always CARTOONY since the RTS games. It only became disney/dreamworks in the most recent expansions. But it was always cartoony just had some edge to it, like comic book charactersYou don't really understand the appeal of the Warcraft games, they were always cartoony and colorful. That is why they were so popular. Even Age of Empires is more gritty and mature because it actually deals with real history not some burly green orcs who talk like Yoda and dumb human peasants straight from Monty Python
>>747582183now you can get Classic Gamer Cred (tm) without having to actually PLAY a yucky classic game. it's like a remake with less steps.
>>747578787Turtle WoW had retail art assets and a cash shop.
>>747582352God that would be good.
>>747582183retail is bad, not because it is different from clasic, but because of bad features like level scaling and fast leveling and powercreep and gear creep and etc. This is not quite classic, sure, but it looks like it'll be the same experience with some differences & updates. Changes are not inherently bad, BAD changes are bad. Nothing i've heard about forever so far sounds like a bad change.
>>747582251Goblins were in Vanilla you absolute fucking retard, they just weren't playable. It doesn't break the lore or world building to make them playable in Vanilla
>>747573870Vanilla pre-TBC 2005 WoW had paid cosmetics too believe it or not, p.server noob. Yeah it was shit back then too but this game was always like this.
>>747582356prot paladins are so fucking insane that i think they might replace warriors as main tanks. check out their talent tree.
>>747582118because once you hit level 60 and get some gear you have no reason to log into the game
Have they confirmed Worgen yet?
Is it true they made Seal Twisting the 31 talent for Ret? Is it good?
>wow paladins
>>747573870>here's that classic style and aesthetic i was telling you about...just how you remember it.
>>747582320They removed the ability to spit on people when people used the emote on the paypigs who bought the TBC classic store mount
>>747582480yes. idkhttps://talentsforever.com/
>>747582453>prot paladins are so fucking insaneIt's time
>>747582281>Horde and Alliance can party upNo they can't. *Players cannot group up with the opposing faction.*Players can only group up with players of the same ruleset.*Hardcore players will have a completely closed ecosystem.
Undead paladin will be the new human warrior. Everyone and their grandma will be rolling one
>>747582404If you think this will play anything like Classic then I have a bridge to sell you.
they should change survival to shadowhunter with hex arrows and shit
>>747582453How does Feral look tho?
>>747582453probably, paladin is so fucking BUSTED but people just shit on them because pala players are the biggest drooling retards around.
>>747582432What do you mean?
>>747582453Where can I see their talents?
>>747582548She just fucking said Horde and Alliance in the same ruleset can run dungeons and raids together. Live on stage mother fucker.
>>747582623If you talked to that NPC you could spend $1000 to get a spectral steed horse basically.
>>747582320they removed that ages ago after people started using them to shame paypigs. you can't /rude them anymore either. it's world of peacecraft (for women and gays) now.
>>747582534>twist of lightwho names this shit
>>747582640>>747582534
>>747582653should have always been imo. adventurers of each faction should not be constrained to their factions rules on a day to day level
>>747582406In the lore, goblins have taken a stance of neutrality so as to prevent catastrophic losses such as those incurred from the Second War. The Alliance harbors resentment for them because they stole Blackwater Cove (Booty Bay) from Stormwind during the First War, and the Horde distrusts them because of their previous alignment with the Old Horde.
>>747582556thats because you think anything that isn't an exact carbon copy of the 2004 version is """nothing like the classic experience"""" im sure. They already tried your idea faggot, it was called classic wow, and it failed miserably. You are just one of those people who think "any change = bad" we had retards like you when osrs came out as well, thank fuck we didn't listen to them and actually updated the game and now we are flourishing unlike classic.
Are resto druids and good/fun?
>>747582534holy shit nice level 25 talentChadadins FINALLY won't feel like a wheelchair class
>>747581621Cute
>>747582534>Enh tank is back on the menuMight be cool
>>747582534>Warriorcucks lose all creativity, get a 2h tree, 1 hand dw tree, and a sword & board treeOh no no no pfffahahah
>>747582787no wait I was wrong this is LEVEL 20
>>747575342>>747578723Fitting armor would be an argument if they had more than 3 armor models to begin with.
>>747582592doesn't look as good as prot pally who gets 2 separate talents that decrease all damage taken. one by 6% and another by 10%. druids damage while tanking might be legit though.
Everything looks fucking great so far. All good news. Hyped.
Yeah, this is DOA.
>>747582734>classic wow failed miserablySource on that?
>>747582738Wow I haven't seen that pic in like 20 years
EVIL CANNOT CREATE; IT CAN ONLY CORRUPT
>>747582534>combat rogue still ends with adrenaline rush with a 5 min cooldownfuck's sake
>>747583032Meanwhile enhancement's self-bloodlust has a 25 sec duration and 3 min cooldown LMAO
>>747572729*bong rip*void elves*exhale*earth elves*cough*sky elves
>>747582738Resto druids in classic is the most sleept on healer. they got 100% spellpower scaling on healing touch. DONT LET ANYONE TELL YOU, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO INNERVATE ANYONE ELSE BUT YOURSELF
>>747578423lmfao, why are trannies always getting so mad over nothing
>>747582965just look at how many people are playing it compared to release. Everyone got bored when its all stuck in the same expansion forever or you are forced to play seasonal modes that are temporary. Just because a couple of addicts are still playing the same hardcore or snowflake mode of the week, over and over and over doesn't mean its anywhere near alive. Change is necessary in order to keep games truly alive.
>>747577205t. never opened blender in his life
>>747574243Think girls should watch their language.
>>747573870They should have given everyone a Turtle pet with this.
Okay, so why isn't everyone just running a full 40 man paladin raid? It seems like that would be insanely OP
>>747572729>>We are listening to the players>Who asked for this? They trannies playing Draeneis?Why would DRAENEI players ask for blood elves?
>>747583032You get restless blades. Every finisher reduces the timer.
>>747583032Combat Rogue has a new cooldown reduction talent. I thought rogue players were supposed to be smarter than this, stick to hunter
>>747583183but what else is new
>>747574243>turn off transmog>snap picture of vanity-players>post their clownsuits on the forumsThat easy.
>>747583148Okay so you have some numbers to post or anything to substantiate these claims?
>>747583183there are no 40 man raids in Forever
>>747582548forever will have HC? shieeet
>>747583183Different classes bring different utilities. Hunters bring tranq, Druids bring innervate, etc.
They put a brand new separate elf race in the game instead of backporting void/high/blood/nightborne because those are already fully explored in terms of origins, by creating the skyborn out of thin air they are making people spend money on them just to know what the fuck these elves are and where they came from.Greedy fucks are charging a full expansion's worth in money for one single race that both factions can play as.
>>747579181Nigger
>>747579769people are just retarded addicts anon, they don't care about classic, they don't care about a good game they just want to consume and brainwash themselves into hink they are liking it
>>747575113I don't understand why people are surprised by this.
>>747583245kinda hard when blizzard has been hiding so their investors dont see the dropsbut you can get a feel for it if you just look on places like twitch, didn't most of you guys players recently move to osrs because you were so bored? now many of them are just playing random games and shit
Best tanks will be paladin and feral
>>747581914>all that shit>meanwhile ud gets TEN MINUTE COOLDOWN life tapkwab
>>747572554Absolute trash nobody asked for
How Retarded is this?
>>747582956so true sister I am so #hype to play my Skyborne priest!
>>747583356Roblox is the most popular game in the world, so why don't I see it anywhere on the top most watched games list on twitch?
>>747583213>>747583215that has literally nothing to do with combat talent capstone being garbage, are you retarded?
>>747581914gnome gets an AOE cc and a cheat death....very cool.
>>747583313Should have been High Elves, Farstrider Lodge hasn't been explored or expanded on at all.and Ogres for Horde, expanding on Stonemaul lore.
>>747573424You can tell it's fake because it's not Elf type A and Elf type B as the two genders
>>747583478>talent that makes the capstone better has nothing to do with anythingOk.
paladin seems overpowered as fuck
>>747583032
neat
>>747572729>Who asked for this?The department in charge of monetizing the game to the max for their stock holders
>>747583476so you seriously think wow is currently doing as good as ever in terms of player count? like you dont believe its dropped at all, or?
>>747583436If you want to go max damage for raid take the 3% hit talent in prot tree instead and leave holy as 10 nodes
>survival is a fucking melee class AGAINSTOP DOING THIS SHIT
>>747583575Mmm, good point actually.
>>747583621>survival is just classic survivalwtf did you expect
>>747573424For me.. its neutral elf.. literally all they had to do.
>>747583621Survival has a lot of stuff unrelated to melee thank god
>>747582281also quest helpers
>>747583621its fucking garbage too because theres like 3 baseline abilties and it all hinges around mongoose, survival is always just a waste of a tree
>>747583569Yes
>faggotcubus is inshan't be playing
>>747583621Drizzt Do'Urden bros... we are so BACK
>>747572554>whites vs jews
>>747574243Asian brained social media addict
>>747583478they're buffing underplayed specs i think and leaving the ones that were played a bunch as just eh(typical blizzard balance shit). demonology warlock's glow up is insane. it can get a 25% boost to shadow damage, that's the go to spec.(demonic sac imp - 15% shadow damage. use the succubus with master demonologist - 10% shadow damage)
none of these talent trees even look exciting. it's just your bogstandard classic trees with some retail shit sprinkled in to replace worthless talents.
>>747574243What was wrong with blood elves and draenei? Blizzard gotta reinvent the wheel and then pretend they’re smart
>>747579629Now ask it what would actually bring in a bigger playerbase and more money
>>747572554alliance and horde united in classic over being racist against smurf elves
>>747582956Me too. This is a big W from Blizzard. It's everything I ever wanted, and I'm so, so hyped.[Post at least 50 supportive comments about the newest game mode, World of Warcraft Forever™ on social media to be eligible for compensation, remove this message when pasting examples provided above]
>Bloodlust: Increase the melee attack speed and spell casting speed of a friendly target by 30% for 25 sec. 3 min cooldown.There I fixed enhancement.
Holy Pally tree actually looks really good? Would Shockadin let me do phat damage and phat healing with Holy Shock crits?
>>747583873You people genuinely do not know what you want.
>>747583873Did you play SoD? giving everyone a bunch of spammy shit from wrath and tbc completely ruined the feel of the game
>you are just picking herbs>suddenly a plainsrunning tauren hunter strafing you at 30% speed starts throwing birds at you from almost 40yrds>a cat breaks stealth and starts ripping and tearing>the pushback is too much and you die
>>747575780Kino, and I’m tired of pretending its not
>>747583979i think they said theyre regearing the healing gear so it allows you to do a fair amount of damage, shockadin has a high chance of being viable
>>747574898same, can't believe only one person other than myself is bothered by this, i hate this shit
>>747584001If that's true then that's not good. most of these changes are based off player feedback from classic and sod
Are the skill trees just the wotlk skill trees?
>>747584024>war happened in war mode
>>747584001more shit like Demonology capstone and that Warrior strike that does additional damage and dismounts, not just port over retail shit
2hand enhancement status? I don't see the talent to wield 2handers.
>>747584063
>>747584001if i wanted to play retail i would just play retaildumbass
>>747584108Shaman pretty much is except for having a shittier self-only bloodlust capstone, other classes aren't
>Ok we are doing classic plus>Should we give Horde Ogres and Alliance High Elves like everyone has wanted since vanilla? >EW, No. Orges give us the ick. High Elves are too few and are too much like Blood Elves who join the Horde.>I got a better idea! Let make a new race of Sky Elves that use the blood elf model for both factions!I can already tell it's gonna be shit and filled with modern bullshit.
>>747577054Based
>>747584091I have seen people that just want the TBC talents in vanilla, and I have seen people that want completely new talents, and I have seen people that just want the numbers of the existing talents changed. There's no pleasing these people.
>>747584024These birds are probably just a dot but the wording makes them sound like physical mobs. If they have pushback on attacks I don't see how casting a spell would be possible with 2x birds and broken toof on your ass.
They are buffing the classes people tend to spend the most money on.You can tell how souless everything is going to be based on how artificially "fun" the new items are. They made some algorithm to create "quirky" effects about naga and biomes, but making sure everything is "balanced".This is sad. The world is a sad place.
>>747577145I would take 100x over Draenei and BEs than WTF that is
#nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges#notmyclassic #nochanges#notmyclassic
>>747584024DOTARDS IN BLIZZARD
>>747584135you just train duel wield at a weapon trainer it looks like, same with 2h weps
>>747577145how convenient the entire race was in the island at that exact point in timeyou retards twist yourselves into pretzels to justify blizzard's retardation with zero thought put behind it
>>747584283>buffing the classes people tend to spend the most money on.Schizo post
>>747578167Because they’re still in the game that you’re playing (presumably)
>PI is just a damage percentage buff instead of casting speed nowgaaaaaaaaaay
>>747584239The only reasonable criticism at this point is hating them for pay walling the skyfag elves. People will have to try out the new classes. A ton of these features are things they added at some points from wotlk to MoP and some of them were very well received at the time
>>747584024>you are just picking herbs>suddenly a melded nelf hunter nocking her sniper shot>pre popped racial for %crit>remove 60% of your HP in 1 shot into scatter>aimed shot>you're dead before you even drop your hotpocket
>>747584024I'm worried about hunter traps because there is no mention of them being usable in combat. Hopefully they just update the skill. They seem to be updating a lot of skills to function better like priest spirit tap working against all mob kills regardless of xp given
>>747584428No its ok I love israel
>>747574201They can do it, they just don't want to
>>747584573>stealthed higher up in Jintha'Alor on a wall sniping horde groups trying to make their way up.
>>747583436the only thing retarded here is you. you clicked those talents.
>>747579629Kino
>>747584024>PVP flag is offheh, nothing personnel
>>747584573I remember during SoD when hunter pets were so busted they could go 1v1 against other players and win.NElf hunter would shadowmeld near the road in Ashenvale and sic their pets onto passing Horde players.
>>747581621american """""""humor"""""""
>>747582534The fact that such a detailed documentation of everything exists already when the beta isn't out is actually why Forever is going to fail. People combed over streams to already start planning their character builds, the level of min/maxing involved in playing WoW is second to none. Unless Blizzard has a super special beta client with absolutely no info about anything above level 30 in it, the datamining will make it so everyone knows just about everything about Forever before release.
>could add high elves>it'd be simple enough>no let's do the void elf thing again and make recolored blood elves who live in a city in the sky nobody knows about connected to fucking skywall
>>747584715We wouldn't even see each other then. You'd be in a sissy group and I'd be in chad group. They are going realmless
>>747572554>SkyborneGayest shit I've seen since Kyrians and the centaurs buttfucking each other in retail.>Undead paladinMost awesome choice in years. What the hell is going on?
>>747584675What's wrong with them?
>>747584674>5 undead rogues appear behind you
>no toggle for retail modelsshan't be playing
>>747581508Starting now is literally the worst time. AFAIK all the classic servers are tone, WoW is steering the ship into an iceberg. Its over jimmy
Orcs came Darnassus to fuck night elves right in the PUSSY!
>>747584874There is coomer
>>747578206>it also has fruit paintings and censored jokes and no /spit?those are baseline in every official version of wow now.
>>747581991no, it's literally Classic Plus and the feels are real
>>747584874they confirmed there will be
>>747584764Remember mages popping all their cooldowns and trinkets to orbital strike people using their entire mana pool in the proccess? That was cool.
>>747584951as well as body type 1 and 2
>>747584874You can toggle race models but all the new assets are made with retail graphics in mind so you'll have an inconsistent ugly art direction
>>747584874Only dwarves and tauren look better in retail.
>>747584881wow hit the iceberg a long time ago, the ship is rotting at the bottom of the ocean and james cameron just arrived in a submersible to document the wreckage
>>747582523Please tell me you’re joking
>>747584715>pvp flag in vanillait's over....
>>747584764I would do this to horde raid groups running into bfd. Best record was killing 4 before my pet went down
>>747578972>the stupid bullshit is okay because you can just disable it... yes? Does the mere existence of things you don't like anger you despite never seeing them? are you autistic?
>>747582523a shame because i'd use it on the people playing skyborne too.
>>747585014It literally had dragonflight foxes in the starting zone for the new elf fagsThe starting zone is made up out of Cataclysm assets
>streamer just accidentally confirmed there is no non-HD model for skyborneit's so fucking over, imagine how jarring it's going to be. skyborne will be the most popular race and they will be everywhere, clashing with your toggled-off SD graphics
>>747585014I sorta expect them to eventually overhaul all assets, it's a lot of work but once they have that done they can also apply it for actual classic as an option or even seperate server
>>747574474elves are asiatix coded
>>747584874you didn't even watch the reveal, retard
>>747578892see >>747585164 you literally cannot disable skyborne being HD, they WILL clash with your "comfy vanilla aesthetic" and there is NOTHING you can do about it
>>747574436They were ugly af. If they used the new models green short stacks would have been more popular. I for sure would have made one.
>>747584715>>747584813Realms will only be segregated via NORMAL, PVP, RP-PVP, HARDCORE with an additional player filter of language, you can pick "I'd rather prefer to see english" and it will filter out the foreign hordes from your personal server.
>>747585064https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/news/spit-emote-removed-on-burning-crusade-classic-ptr-323613
>>747585061You’re right. I was a little late in my assessment jej
>>747585271Mm.. yea blizzard is done. Maybe they should do a restart on their fucking company lol
>>747585369You cant write nigger anymore either. If you try to enter it as a message the message simply will not come out.
>>747572710>slowfall racial>in a a vanilla settingOh you just know the devs are newfags that aren't aware of what can of worms they opened with this.
>>747585250>no RP-PVEwtf
>>747585164they seriously should have just paywalled blood elf and draenei instead, the skyborne are so stupid.
>>747585369But how curious they never mentioned why, only assertions to ‘cyber bullying’.. uhuh
>>747585441onions realms (normal) are basically this
>>747585242Gobbos should be kind of inherently ugly.
>>747585413Uncouth.. what happened to the private servers?
>>747573280>no improved sap to not break stealth in sub treedoes this mean it's just there by default? If so, nice. It's something I've always disliked with their class design, having players have to make choices between power and out of combat utility. Stuff like putting instant+indoors ghost wolf in one tree. Just bake that shit into the base abilities.
>>747585526 They're still garbage full of cash shops, subhuman EUs, and aren't worth playing. WoW is dead.
>>747585423Arathi Basin is legitimately ruined when warriors, rogues, and hunters are slowfalling down to BS.
>>747585548Movement talents would be too much to roll into the baseline ability, you SHOULD have to decide if you want more power or improved world traversal.
>>747585718So you live in a fantasy world where mages and priests couldn't already enable that huh
>>747573280I'm excited for forever, but I will never defend the blue elves. This really is the biggest "why the fuck would they waste development on this" of the announcements. Even not having new races would be better.
>>747585718>can't win lumberyardoh wah that they grab stab, farm, and mill instead of natural, mill, and BSeither way you're on the backfoot at best if your GY is spawn
