>space civilization>still needs foot-soldier instead using drones, nukes and bio-weapons>those foot-soldiers don't even have massive genetic modifications to turn them into quasi-gods>trailer's soldier not protects his face against zerg's acid because american obsession of seeing facial expressions even in the most pointless situationsAre they truly incapable of writing actual SCIENCE fiction?Why has it all to be so lame?
>Why can't Americans design cool scifi worlds>WHY ARE THERE HUMANS!? IT SHOULD BE BORING LIFELESS SOULESS MACHINES DOING EVERYTHINGWhy are they like this.......?
>>747572967>ofc, le low-IQ tard has appear and can't think beyond the already boring overused dichotomy man vs. machine, instead of something beyond and better Because retards like you, both fantasy and scifi are dead.
>>747572667Unironically this. All scifi movies and games look dated after witnessing the tech advancement in Ukraine and Iran war. Like why would anyone not use drones when it is so fucking cheap but can deal incredible damage?
Because they look like this now
>>747573321>THAT SCIENCE BAD THIS OTHER SCIENCE IS ARBITRARILY DOUBLE PLUS GOOD
>>747572667drones, nukes and bio-weapons can't hold territory
>>747573439I promise you I can find unflattering photos of fat ugly brown people in your country.
>>747573321>can't think beyond the already boring overused dichotomy man vs. machineNigga YOU did that. In your OP:>still needs foot-soldier instead using drones, nukes and bio-weapons
>>747572667the old generation of creators is dead, and now we only have people who learned "creating" means "remember your toys and copy what brands already do, especially Hasbro because they pay the school a lot"
>>747573418The protoss do
>>747573597You would not. Well you probably would find gypsies, but we dont really consider them people round here.
>>747573418Have you not noticed how much of the fighting is still done by nameless grunts, the exact same way as in Starcraft?
>>747572667>still needs foot-soldier instead using drones, nukes and bio-weaponsHow is drone exclusive warfare cool?
>>747572667Why do non-Americans constantly rip off American slang? It's so cringe
>>747573872Drone footsoldiers
>>747573597t. looks like the "people " in the photo
>>747572667Would you like realistic science fiction of human civilization nuking a world from orbit or sending in a swarm of drones? That would be quite dull.
>>747574078Yes
>>747573485This guy gets it.
>>747574270That's the protoss's job not terran.
>>747574053You should lose some weight then.
>>747574363do we really want territory that's all disgusting from infested terrain though? better to nuke it and move on
>>747572667I remember the lore being these soldiers were criminals and thus expendable meat shields.
>>747573321it would be even more dead if people like you were in charge
>>747574579Those were terrans I thought? These guys are Dominion.
>>747574687I thought every human was Terran. No idea who these dominion niggers are.
>>747573630Read >>747572967>>Why can't Americans design cool scifi worlds>>WHY ARE THERE HUMANS!? IT SHOULD BE BORING LIFELESS SOULESS MACHINES DOING EVERYTHING
>American literature and movies/shows responsible for 99% of all modern science fiction outside of a few outliers>Foreigners come to American websites to post faggoty ragebait shitposts like this to seethe about American culture domianceNuchan is so fucking brown and third world
>>747574507>>747574270This guys get it.
>yeah i've never played starcraft and have no idea about the lore lol>(complaints about game he's never played)
>>747574682Good.
>>747572667Rule of cool. And it's not sci-fi, it's space fantasy. Like mechs. Or Starwars.
>>747574738Dominion niggas were the original humans who got cut off. Terrans are basically australians which is why they are all criminals.
>>747574938Ahhh, cool. I haven't played Starcraft in decades. Thanks.
>>747574078Yes. You just have no imagination
>>747572667It's for nomalfags
>>747574989Yeah, my guess from the limited info is that the Dominion either showed up again or this is some kind of soft reboot. Hence why the marines look so soft, they aren't the same breed as SC marines.
>>747575039Holy fuck this would have been infinitely more kino than the crap Cameron gave us for the real 2.
>>747573418Hard scifi stories tend to depict space warfare as flinging rocks or drones at each other from light-years away. Space navies are a meme because space is too big to control, but most people don't want hard scifi because our reality is boring as fuck. That's why the current dystopia is just lame and gay.
>>747572667Why are ALL AAA games faggot coded?
What did happen in those 70 years to make them go from this to whatever that thing is at OP's pic
>>747574053sorry m8, my people didn't leave germany/ireland for the US until after the civil war and they stayed in the middle of bumfuck midwest as farmers, we haven't had the time (or desire) to intermingle
>>747572667Jesus christ you fucking retarded nigger faggots.It's called rule of cool. It runs on the same logic (or lack thereof) as WH40K.It's supposed to look cool and be grim, not an actual representation of warfare hundreds if years in the future.
>>747574923But purposely not using tech is not cool. Did you know that cheap drones use AI now and can detect targets on its own which means there is no human intervention needed? Dune can get away with nerfed tech because of Butlerian Jihad but scifi like Star Wars or Gundam don't have excuse.
>>747575580Blizzard hired a bunch of fat feminists
>>747573778>you'll find brown people here, but they're not REALLY our peoplethis is a coping mechanism
>>747575641But it doesn't look cool?
>>747572667idk
Don't most popular sci-fi worlds come from the US? Star Trek, Star Wars, The Expanse, Mass Effect, Avatar...
>>747573439Dios mio...
>>747575660did you know that the Iran war will last forever precisely because the US is too chickenshit to put actual human beings with guns on the ground
this franchise was made in the 90s(?) anonI don't see you complaining about WH40k
>>747575746Mass Effect is C*nadian
>>747575746>Star TrekShit>Star WarsShit>The ExpanseShit>Mass EffectShit>AvatarGay shit
>>747572667You know they did that in Wings of Liberty and no one complained
>>747572667Because we can no longer see any future that isnt dismal.Theres your answer
>>747575641>it's supposed to look cool and be grim>actually looks lame, fake and gayMuricans can't stop making all ugly and lame, and think it's a win. What a sad people.
>>747572667I have 0 hope that the SC shooter is going to be any good, the new marine suit also looks like shit. But what is it with the hordes of brown zoomers crawling out of the woodworks just to shit on Starcraft which was always a beloved franchise on here?
>>747572667Starcraft is not hard science fiction. It's military pulp fiction. The absurdity is intentional. The roided up marines dying horribly to terrifying aliens has always been part of the iconic Terran imagery. They even nailed the iconic trope of the marine's gun being useless after about 8 seconds.
>>747573439The death of the heroic figure.
>>747575726It absolutely does. Big fucking armored guys with railgun rifles shooting space bugs.Just like Heinlein intended. If you disagree then you're a communist and possibly brown.
>>747572667Jesus Christ shut the fuck up you tard
>why do space yokel rednecks descended from criminals look like mutts? UGH...!
>>747572667>describes the most boring by the books shit possibleIs the joke that OP is American (a fag)?
>>747572667It is odd considering than we when left SC2 the Terran's were utilizing advanced bio-weaponry and robots. We're told that Earth is actually quite advanced and surly by now the Koprulu system has a fastlane back to Earth. The Protoss must have fucked back off and returned to isolationism. The Zerg we see I'm guessing are Zagara's or something, but then again I guess they can just have feral zerg it doesn't matter if they're controlled anymore.All this is to say, who the fuck cares because>2030
>>747576362I don't think newer writers care about lore and past games and don't mind retconning whatever they want because it's their story now
>>747572667>>747573418Meat is cheaper. Meat will always be cheaper.I mean there are tons of different scifi games and concepts explored in steam indie games, why are you complaining about Starcraft of all things that always had this sort of established lore of lowtech combined with dystopian.The whole point of Starcraft is that terrans are virtually no different to the zerg in terms of animalistic brutality in the treatment of their own. They experiment and torture each other with drugs and psionics (ghosts are literally said genetically modified super soldiers) and are no different to the zerg when it comes to destructive power, expanding and consuming all resources across the galaxies like a virus, prompting the protoss to have to cull them every so often, and who see them as little different to the zerg.Notice how even though terrans always meet gruesome fates they always somehow complete their objectives and gain ground.
>>747575660Did you know that you're a fucking faggot?
>>747572667Go ahead, make a hard sci-fi RTS that isn't incredibly niche, dipshit
>>747572667>drone nuke and bioweapon everything>left with an irradiated hellscape stripped of all resources
>>747575835if you don't like TNG you don't like sci-fi
>>747572667The people reading/playing through the story are humans. Humans like reading about humans and imagining themselves in the characters' situation. I hope that helps.
>>747576492>Meat is cheaper. Meat will always be cheaper.Nope. Only applicable to Zerg
>>747575746TNG is the GOAT and Expanse s1-3 is good.But the scifi series that inspired Terran the most imo is Babylon 5, especially early on. The CGI and ship designs from Starcraft look like they could belong to the B5 universe, ghosts are pretty much psi corps, and the overall mood and atmosphere feel sort of similar.
>>747575039Based.
>>747577081Are we just going to ignore Starcraft literally copied everything from Warhammer 40k because it was originally a 40k game?
>>747572667I asked grok to change his face for tyler1's and he looks the same.
>>747577209>this retarded made-up non-sense again
>>747577289But it's literally true?
>>747577242That's just ricardo
>>747576783Nope, it's the same with terrans too.Not once in the entire Starcraft series has there been any indication of a terran population shortage or the prospect of a terran-specific extinction (that wasn't a universewide extinction), quite the opposite. Even today, meat is cheaper than drones. You only think otherwise because we still hold on to a veneer of civility and meat is still figuring out the new meta (if not for landmines meat on motorbikes would have defeat drones already). But say tomorrow India wanted to take over Ukraine they could literally just ship their entire male population into the neighbouring countries, then walk straight into Ukraine and take it in a day. The only thing holding meat back is not wanting to be used as meat.
>>747572667Does anyone know wtf a "open world shooter" is? Did they choose some ambiguous genre because the game isn't even made yet?
>>747577242I wonder if theyll put artosis and destiny in the gameThose are the only starcraft players i know. maybe grubby becuase i think hes paid by blizzard or who ever his talent agency is
>>747577498It's made by the designer of Far Cry 3, so it's Far Cry.
>>747577329No. This story has been twisted so hard by GW nutgobblers. Blizzard originally thought BRIEFLY of using the Warhammer Fantasy license when making Warcraft 1, but dismissed the idea in favor of an original IP. Starcraft was originally a Warcraft 2 spinoff that was so memed for being Orcs in Space that Blizzard spent years building it into its own thing. It draws from popular sci-fi IPs of the time like Alien, Predator, Firefly, Starship Troopers, etc. just like 40k did.
>>747572667>nukesThey're just too boring. Even in real life nobody wants to use them because nukes are gay
>>747577209It originally was meant to be a 40K game iirc, but the inspirations come from all over the place. 40k itself wasn't the first to do it (Starship Troopers 1959) and the protoss-terran-zerg trichotomy is clearly just the same as the elf-human-orc trichotomy of exaggerated human characteristics. Fantasy and scifi have been around FOR A LONG TIME. Like late 1800s early 1900s.
>>747577289yeah man absolutely no similarities between the original tyranids and the zerg>b-but the colors
>>747577735I don't know where this nonsensical denial-cope comes from. Warcraft/Starcraft are cribbing WH/WH40K directly. And WH in general is cribbing Dune.
>>747572667>Why can't americans design cool scifi universesThe fact that they're withholding names after this announcement of this recent SC title, not even throwing Metzen's name out there, tells me this wasn't written and created by an American team
>>747577878Damn you should alert Games Workshop, I found blatant infringement of their copyright
>>747575039>Nuke Pandora >Now all the life you wanted to study and make products out of is gone Great job
>>74757720940k copied everything from moorcock and 2000ad and other comics including tracing whole designs so pipe the fuck down
>>747575580I really don't like how angular it is.
>>747578005Plus it's the only Earth-like planet they've ever found and humanity wants to move there permanently. Not a good idea to just irradiate it all. And the whole reason why they spent billions to make the Avatars in the first place is because they didn't want to genocide the natives and wanted to peacefully do their thing. They simply can't understand that mining forbidden resources, generating plastic garbage, polluting air, and killing off intelligent whale families is inherently wrong and anathema to the Na'vi. No amount of capitalism will make them agree. Not unless you get the brain damaged, drugged up, psycho ones to ally with you.
>>747577735But it's true for real. You are the first nigger to deny this.
>>747578272>>747578005Woke faggot Americans detected
>Starship Trooper 1959>The story is set in a future society ruled by a human interstellar government called the Terran Federation, dominated by a military elite. Under the Terran Federation, only veterans of a primarily military Federal Service enjoy full citizenship, including the right to vote.[6] The first-person narrative follows Juan "Johnny" Rico, a young man of Filipino descent, through his military service in the Mobile Infantry.Wait a minute... looks exactly like the trailer down to the possibly filipino descended protag kek
>>747578321Oops, I actually watched the movie and paid attention. I know that's a foreign concept and very difficult for thirdies like you to do. Sorry to trigger you.
>>747578420>He progresses from recruit to officer against the backdrop of an interstellar war between humans and an alien species known as "Arachnids" or "Bugs"
>>747578165So what, nigger? You think Tolkien invented Elves?
>>74757728940kfags are the ultimate sci-fi tourists. according them everything ever has copied 40k including real life because game workshop is the only creative entity in the entirety of human history.
>>747578420Emm excuse me? That book is hecking fascist and racist against bla... I mean bug people. It's really problematic.
40kiddies when they encounter another franchise
>>747577449>But say tomorrow India wanted to take over Ukraine they could literally just ship their entire male population into the neighbouring countries, then walk straight into Ukraine and take it in a day.How come countries don't do that?Instead of sending an army to invade, send a horde of unarmed civilians to storm the border. If the other country shoots to stop them, they're murderous war criminals; if they don't shoot, they're conquered.Bonus points if most of them are 17 years old so you can cry that they're murdering children.
>>747578420>>747578506>Two extraterrestrial civilizations are depicted, respectively, as the "Pseudo-Arachnids" (or "Bugs"), and the "Skinnies". The "Bugs" are described as communal beings originating from the planet of Klendathu, and consist of multiple castes; workers, warriors, brains, and queens, similar to those of ants and termites on Earth. The warriors are the only ones who fight, and are unable to surrender in battle.[34] It also is implied that the Bugs are technologically advanced, possessing such technologies as spaceships.[35] The "Skinnies" are depicted as less communal than the Arachnids, yet more so than humans.Literally the protoss Khala heje
>>747578272why would they want to move there permanently when they can't breathe the air
>>747578694That's what Israel is doing to Spain in Ceuta.
>>747578601Then why everyone keep coping 40k if it is so hated, uh? Create your own stuff or be quiet.
>>747578762The King is in on it. The police is helping the invaders. It's not the same. Ceuta is a controlled genocide by its own government.
>>747578762>Israel That's a very weird and specific way to misspell Morocco.
Okay fucking seriously at this pointWHY are Americans like this.......
>>747578694Well it's always a cost benefit analysis, and most countries don't have the 660 million military manpower that India does (and if you include the rest of south asia even more). The only single country comparable is China's with 626 million military aged men.
>>747578973lmao as if moor scum have enough brain power to plan something like this. Muslims are too busy raping goats and eating dirt for something like that.
>>747577242how can I tell if this is that midget if I don't see his dent nor him standing next to a regular human.
>>747579023burgers got lazy and started hiring jeets to do all the work for them
>>747576492>are no different to the zerg
>>747578862>>747578973Well if you want to be technical it's US deep state and collaboration with Israel doing it since the whole point of the operation is to wrest Ceuta from Spanish control in order to control the Strait of Gibraltar in line with the Department of War's overall strategy of seizing and controlling all the maritime choke points around the world like Hormuz/Bab Al-Mandab/Malacca/Northwest Passage.Falklands is about wresting control of south America by the US/Israel from the brits.
>>747579357>we want to take Gibraltar from Spain so the US/Israel can control it>by...handing it to Morocco?
>>747579357This theory breaks when considering the Spanish King is helping them. It makes no sense.
>>747572667When has Pakistan made anything?
>>747579357If you want to be technical, kill yourself.
>>747579854they made some nukes
>>747579967*They were given nukes
>>747579967Cool. Here's Karachi.
>>747579785The King has no power besides public opinion, so he always backs what's trendy at the moment.
>>747580128Nah bro, because the government is also helping them. The police is protecting the invaders. The police is controlled by the government. It's a fact.
>>747572667>Are they truly incapable of writing actual SCIENCE fiction?I don't think you would like it.
Americans have been the only ones that have designed cool sci fi universes. Thirdies can't even grasp the concept of scifi because they barely do math
>>747579041They don't need men. Send women and children. Dare your neighbor to shoot them dead while the entire world watches.
>>747578637Harry Potter fans need to read another bookStar Wars fans need to watch another movieWarhammer fans need to learn abaut other franchises
>>747572667Americans are the only ones to make science fiction at all. Have you even been out of your country, paki? Never mind space.
>>747579653Morocco would have no qualms outsourcing Ceuta's security to US or Israel. Like Argentina, it's an Israeli puppet.>>747579785I don't know the specifics of what the King is doing, but extending hospitality to the people walking in I would not categorize as helping the overall takeover. Israel right now really hates Spain because they've been most outspoken about Gaza genocide (and beat their champion in the world cup) and so this ploy is partly trying to get them to eat their words and go 1492 on the Moroccans. Spain knows it's bait so can't take drastic actions.>>747579920Technically I don't. That's why mossad is so busy all the time.>>747580274They need women to reproduce. If theybsent women and children Morocco would be empty in a generation and Spain could take it over.
>>747580242>giant ass ships and megastructures instead of energy and mass efficient unitsIt's just another fantasy fanfic for fags and women
>>747580570>I don't know the specifics of what the King is doing, but extending hospitality to the people walking inThey are not "people walking in". They are invaders raping the local people. Raping the subjects of the King.
>>747580570>ArgentinaLead by a Jewish President, openly loves Israel>Morocco Lead by a Muslim King, openly hates IsraelHow are they the same?
>>747578780>40kfag unironically believes that GW has ever done anything original
>>747580723The 4 chaos gods.
awfully handsome for a deathrow prisoner
>>747572667The elite dominion units in sc2 are ludicrously more powerful than their outdated koprulu counterparts. The elite dominion marine has 150 hp, putting it at about the same level as a siege tank. The koprulu forces are mostly backwater conscripts and press-ganged criminals using comparatively ancient tech and being sent to die in droves.
>>747572667Americans made almost every great sci-fi work.
>>747580570>They need women to reproduce. If theybsent women and children Morocco would be empty in a generation and Spain could take it over.Send all the grandmas, then. It would make for even better press, the other country would look even more evil for fighting back.
>>747573418weirdly All Tommorows touched upon that at the begining when Martians and Earthlings got at war and they use bassicaly space drones and algorythms>No fantasy could have been further from the truth. War between planets was a slow, nerve-wracking series of precisely timed decisions that spelled destruction on biblical scales. Most of the time the combatants never saw each other. Most of the time the combatants were not there at all. War became a duel between complicated, autonomous machines programmed to maximize damage to the other side while trying to last a little longer.
>>747578973>>747578762>>747579357The Morocco thing is the best of a bad situation: if there's going to be an immigration rush, better at least one of them consist of US allies doing the immigrating and seizure of state control, instead of all of them being future hostiles. I can guarantee they'd run Spain better than the current crop of Spanish.
>>747581071>I can guarantee they'd run Spain better than the current crop of Spanish.Fair point.
>>747572667Humans can't truly imagine any joy in living inside a metal cage in space. Our very souls are bound by Earth's gravity
>>747581135>>747581071The only thing moors know how to run is their small dicks up goat's assholes.
>>747580673You see the same dilemma in the strait of Malacca where these muslim nations that openly purportedly hate Israel wouldn't think twice to collaborate with Israel through the proxy of America to give the US military control over the Strait of Malacca.More Jews live in Muslim countries than anywhere else in the world because the muslim faith by creed has a deep intertwining complex relationship with Jews that compel them to shelter and protect them. They openly profess to hate each other but any member of an Abrahamic faith would sooner sell out an infidel than one of their own.So it's not as clear cut as Muslims hate Jews etc that narrative is for popular mass consumption to distract plebs.The elites of these countries want access to the first world education system for their kids and the international banking system, so often they betray their own populace for personal gain.
>>747573418they all agree to fight man to man or man to bug because it's more honourable.you wouldn't get it.
Strict adherence to lame-ified "realistic" visuals and trannyism go hand in hand
>>747572667is this supposed to be a woman
>>747580817Whale chaos shtick is ripped from Moorcock. Even the 8 pointed star sympol they stole. And really they are just complex typical fantasy "evil gods" people would make in their DnD campains.
>>747581245Muslims are prostitutes. They are degenerate filth who would sell their mother for drugs and money. They are also inbreed low IQ animals.
>>747581379Grasping at straws there, buddy.
>>747572667You can tell this was designed by a faggot/woman. If this was 90s SC, this guy would have been some ugly, inbred dude
>>747581159well that and because artivicfial gravity devices are bassicaly fantasy
>>747572967>WHY ARE THERE HUMANS!? IT SHOULD BE BORING LIFELESS SOULESS MACHINES DOING EVERYTHINGcorrect, human resources are finite.
>>747572667They do use nukes though.
>>747572667I'm sorry but why are we pretending the Dominion arent' the good guys?Fuck that kerrigan bitch she killed billions of human soldiers that only protected their home world
>>747581025Yea but then domestic public outcry and civil unrest would immediately collapse your nation before the first granny leaves.>>747581071It's not about Ceuta as I said. It's about control of the Strait of Gibraltar.If the US and Israel manage to take control of the Strait of Gibraltar they'd have all of continental Europe by the balls.Same thing with Northwest Passage. If Canada lets US take Greenland then they say goodbye to any potential future trade with Europe and China.
>>747573439>crocsLike the idiocracy poster!
>>747572667Butlerian jihad, but the problem is the disney adults at Blizzard are not Frank Herbert
>>747572667Space rednecks is cooler than anything you are describing. Not that Starcraft remembers that's what it's supposed to be or anything.
>>747581454the fuck he's not? even the emperor is a moorcock ripoff
>>747581690>If the US and Israel manage to take control of the Strait of Gibraltar they'd have all of continental Europe by the balls.If they really wanted it, they could just take it.Heck, the IDF could invade Spain and conquer the entire country in a week.
>>747581690You say they are taking by force when the reality is they are being given to them on a silver plate. This whole theater is nothing more than a circus for the plebeians not to riot over this callous monstrosity.
Yeah this doesn’t really make sense marines jobbing to zerglings makes sense in BW since marines are either retard conscripts or literal redneck criminals. Having them be le ebin trained warriors then jobbing to lings is cringe. If they wanted a clap moment and le epic fear should’ve had them kill lings then die to mutalisks or some shit, or walk into lurkers
>>747581807But I'm not talking about The Empra. I'm talking about the 4 chaos gods.
>>747581679the only ones that can be considered good are the Protos. also Mengsk was an idiot.>Fuck that kerrigan bitch she killed billions of human soldiers that only protected their home worldWish she kept her SC1 attitude
>>747581543which creates conflict which creates interesting stories and scenarios
>>747578709Because ruined Earth with overpopulation and pollution. Living in a mostly habitable world inside domes is better than destroyed Earth or Mars where it will kill you with low gravity, low pressure, radiation, etc. And in the third movie, they figure out a way to change people to breathe the air
>>747572667>we have warhammer 40k at home
>>747581813Mutual defense pacts preclude this. Would mean world war with nukes. Only India and China have no first use policy.
Us humans were created on God's own image. The entire galaxy belong to us. We have the right of cleansing it of demon filth (aliens).
>>747572667Americans aren't cool but lame.
>>747582058And Warhammer is bassicaly we have 2000ad, Dune, and DnD at home.
The further into the future science fiction is that all practical warfare is functionally just "magic" and no longer involves boots on the ground, the less appealing it is to people. Where's the grit? Where's the personality? You just want advanced toasters fighting each other? That's so impersonal. So weightless. There has to be stakes. You need people to be invested.
>>747581813>Heck, the IDF could invade Spain and conquer the entire country in a week.You know in the real world you can't just summon your army to the battleground wherever.
>>747576492>Meat is cheaper. Meat will always be cheaperThe cost of a drone + hand grenade is less than the cost of recruiting/training/equipping/sustaining a single soldierTherefore one soldier with n drones + hand grenades pays for himself after killing just two enemy soldiersAnd a soldier who kills say 4 enemy soldiers has massively outdone his own cost
>>747582095they why are the aliens mopping you with better cinematics?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbeoSPqRs4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_XwzBMTJaM
>>747577958This. Basically every sci-fi space monster was directly and immediately impacted by the movie Aliens. Games Workshop definitely aren't an exception.
>>747572667Cause sci-fi is harder to write than smth like fantasy. And no, chinkchong sci-fi is not good.
>>747582274it gets worse when hard scifi has vast swathes of civilians being vaporized by weapons capable of razing entire planets
>>747572667Except the Terrans do have drones, nukes and bioweapons, it turns out you still need retards with guns in order to take territory instead of just irradiating the place and letting unreliable clankers that always job/rebel hold it
>>747580025what kind of retard would deliberately create a nuclear power that hates their nuclear powered next door neighbor
>>747582728Jews.
>>747582668You don't need to take territory, you either have a full orbit superiority and win or don't and lose
>>747582461Not that simple. There are embedded costs in those drones and grenades that need an army of raw resource extractors, designers, manufacturers, QCers, quartermasters, and logisticians to purvey.As you go farther and farther into the fringe territories of empire, especially when actually fighting at the front these costs compound and become untenable, hence why the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier group had to retreat to Thailand.
>>747581889You can just fucking google "Warhammer 40k moorcock" or something, no need to embarrass yourself further.
>>747576108ackshually Heinlein intended for a squad of guys in flying armor dropping in from orbit then jumping around dropping tac nukes around the place
>>747581971>in the third movie, they figure out a way to change people to breathe the airhow convenient
>>747582573Yep. That can be a big impactful moment, like when the Death Star fired the big beam. But think about that for a moment. Alderaan getting destroyed is mostly meaningless to viewers despite the incredible scale. We don't know anyone on that planet. We don't even see a ground view of the cities or anything before the whole thing is gone. Luke losing his hand hits MUCH harder than all of that. Because that's how the human mind connects with an event. Through the eyes of a single person.
>>747582337The logistics are the hardest part. But they share the same sea. It would be easier for Israel to invade Spain than it is for Israel to invade Iran (or vice versa, both countries leaders are itching for it) since there's nothing but water between them, instead of multiple countries and lots of mountains.
>>747583020The OG book is based. The autistic detailing of squad formations via their comms, spread and tactics was top notch
>>747573418Terrans don't have drones. Zergs have drones. Play the fucking game /v/. I hate this board so much.
>>747583129Why would Israel invade Spain and spent a fortune when the moor scum does it for pennies on the dollar?
>>747574426Nah. Terrans can also do it.Korhal was nuked by the Confederates.
>>747572667>Why can't americans design cool scifi universes?>posts a cool scifi universeWhat did OP mean by this?
>>747578292Tyranids stole Zerg aesthetics following 3rd ED Tyranids Codex.
Is America even America anymore?
>>747583275>Why would?There's no good IRL reason, I'm just talking about they hypothetical.
>>747582274>pic is some ugly ass "retro-futuristic" mando?Man, 60s and 70s scifi aesthetics were a huge mistake, we still paying the price.>Where's the grit? Where's the personality? Ok, fag.> You just want advanced toasters fighting each other? YES.>That's so impersonal. So weightless.Pacific Rim proves you wrong, fag.>There has to be stakes. You need people to be invested.>*inhales*>*INHALES EVEN HARDER*FAGGOT!
>>747583065we know a) it's Leia's home planet, b) we see how desperately she tries to save it, even selling out another planet in the attempt, and c) we see her reaction to her home being completely obliterated
>>747583593And nu-Squats stole Terran
>>747572667all the good sci-fi was written in the 50s to 80s.
>>747576492>>747576783>>747582461>Meat is cheaper. Meat will always be cheaper.The fact that the video included them recovering the armor to repair it, and just drained what was left of the guy down the drain is proof that meat is cheaper. This trailer is the most basic "war is hell, you have been lied to, and they will just throw you away" anti war basic bitch "message".
>>747583660fuck you, I hope you fucking die
>>747583660Pacific Rim literally still had people involved because Guillermo Del Taco understands that giving a shit about the pilots is what makes mecha anime work beyond the cool robots
>>747575746The people who came up with these settings are either dead, retired, emasculated or forced out of the industry by execs and leftists who hate the settings and want to reshape it into their own vision.
>>747583660>pic is some ugly ass "retro-futuristic" mando?Underage b&. Nigga that's Lego "Ice Planet." Google fucking transparent orange chainsaw and become educated.>Ok, fag.Not an answer.> You just want advanced toasters fighting each other?>YES.Do you even understand entertainment? Shit just exploding and no people involved is hollow. Like jingling keys.>Pacific Rim proves you wrong, fag.Pacific Rim is about Evangelion-style piloted mechs, you retard. That's literally as personal as you can be, because the pilots lives are in jeopardy. The characters we've been spending the whole movie with.>FAGGOT!STILL not an argument. You lose. Good day.
>>747572667Where did the American touch you?
Modular self-replicating factories, or builder-nanites controlled by A.I., would quickly and exponentially assimilate entire asteroid fields and planetoids worth of material.For meat to be cheaper you'd need to do the same thing with biotech like in the webnovel My Biotech Black Technology.
>>747583682I didn't say it was "pointless." But does that change my point that it's far less impactful than Luke losing his hand? No of course not.
>>747583024It's literally part of the story arc and is a direct result of everything going on in the story up to that point. It's not convenient at all.
>>747584132I disagree with your assessment
>>747583696This
>>747584061There's already a RTS with a human faction that operates entirely on drones and AI because they've achieved post-scarcity and another faction of self-replicating nanomachines, with the last faction being early spaceflight aliens who still use organic infantry and crewed vehicles.Except it flopped.
>>747584134ok sorry I insulted your favorite blue people movie
>>747572667Japanese don't like sci fi
>>747573321Name something beyond and better then
>>747584458Japanese do like Sci-Fi just not space operas.
>>747584167You can personally disagree. But which of these scenes do you think sticks with people more? Which wrenches peoples' stomachs more? I promise you, it's the latter on average.
>>747584458the Japanese fuckin love sci fi
>>747584554>SWNot sci-fi
>>747572667>Why can't americans design cool scifi universes?Star TrekStar WarsDuneStar GateAmerica rules sci-fi
>>747584505genre fiction in general is pretty scuffed
>>747584691It doesn't need to be, I'm illustrating a point.
>>747584691what's your definition of Sci-Fi? hard sci-fi only? lmfao.
>>747580673lol the moroccan king is literally a jew
>>747572667Because anything made for a main stream audience has to be dumbed down in the extreme just to get them to pay attention.You can't make scifi that explores interesting concepts because as soon as they have to think to understand it, people check out. If there isn't 2.6 explosions per minute people check out. This isn't an American thing, its a normie thing.Like people didn't even understand the "twist" in Soma. They are so retarded that a concept as simple as clones are just copies, not magical consciousness teleporters, confuses them because the protagonist didn't sit down and explain it to them.The only good scifi is in literature, precisely because everything else needs mass market appeal.
>>747572667>SECONDS since some thirdie malded about America unprompted
>>747572667Everything they do is designed for mass market appeal. Lowest common denominator means everyone can tolerate but no one can like it.
>>747584691Gatekeeping such a broad, catch-all term is retarded.>"B-BUT I HEARD THE TERM "SCIENCE-FANTASY" AND I JUST HAAAAD TO REPEAT IT"NEEEEEEEEEEEERD
>>747574786The entire internet is. If they had an ounce of originality then they would make their own place to reside, but they latch on to our spaces and shit everywhere like cockroaches.
>>747584701All that shit is 50+ years old. Today's Americans aren't making shit
>>747585864Still not sci-fi, poser
>>747572667post your published works
>>747574786brazilians are the largest non-american demographic on /v/ btw
>>747586212If you have spaceships, it's science fiction. I don't care if it also had space wizards. George even tried to ground that part in science too with his midichlorians, so people like you have nothing to stand on anymore.
>>747585217Sauce plz! That would be hysterical.
>>747584061>>747584316Why does everyone always forget this game exists?
>>747575641Actually 40k makes total sense since their tech level has collapsed so much from their peak so it makes essentially magic-lite materials and such feasible. And with how society is set up, pragmatic, cold rationalism and genuine science is something of a very rare luxury to be afforded since chaos corruption is a legitimate threat. It's why the break up of forces into less than ideal formations makes total sense since then a formation turning traitor will be intentionally gimped without the support from other formations.All this combined with purposeful ambiguity and the sheer scale of 40k actually makes it one of the rare genuinely believable sci-if series. Everything else, since they're supposed to be rational first and foremost and with similar conditions as we experience now, tend to fall flat. Which is to be expected since the authors would have to be extremely well researched and smart to truly make something you can actually accept as feasible and grounded.t. autist.
>>747588491because it's utter dogshit
>>747588680Even with those risks it doesn't make sense that technology has stagnated for thousands of years or that all the same space marine chapters from the heresey are still around in some form or that there's one singular human empire with the occasional civil war. The British didn't just stay in the same place technology wise just because the qing wouldn't advance.Dune makes far more sense bc even when Leto controls the entire galaxy the ixians are still doing shit undercover.
>>747578637Trvke40kbabs are even more annoying than furries in the "inserting your shit into unrelated conversations" olympics
>>747572667the first starcraft had cool designs and aesthetics. it was like a 90s horror sci-fi, with dirt everywhere, cool squareness, gore and dim colors. but now it's just this overly polished rounded wokeslop with vibrant colors.
>>747572667>>still needs foot-soldier instead using drones, nukes and bio-weaponsbut anon that le creatura is a bioweapon
>>747573485they can clear out humans holding territory. no use holding the territory if drones/nukes can clear you out.using humans in war large scale scenarios is out dated even in modern times and only relevant in backwater shitholes
>>747581760It really is a shame how SC1 gave the terrans this grimy southern techno-gothic vibe only to remove most of their personality in SC2. Meanwhile the protoss and zerg remain largely unchanged.
>>747573418>Unironcially buying the propoganda Lmao
>>747573418Even war became fake and gay.Nothing is sacred anymore
>>747575726>this doesn't look coolWhat age did you realize you were homosexual?
>>747593648Yeah, I miss the heavy and dirty industrial look alongside the rednecks in space theme. The giant manufacture hall in the new trailer is a good concept, but everything looks so shiny and sterile.
>>747593357lolLmaoWhy do people who have no knowledge on a subject have such strong opinions?
>>747581454Morcock literally could've sued GW if he cared to
>>747593648Raynor is such a microcosm of that loss of depth. He had this vector that was interesting and intense. But then they traded our Raynor in for the weepy traitorfag with oneitis. Like, a love story is such a fucking crutch and they just grabbed it without a second thought.
>>747573418Drones are useless vs zerg (or toss).Zerg's racial ability is burrowing, like Iran's missile launch sites or the mines in Ukraine.They'd need detectors and constant scans.It's not drones holding Russia back, it's the mines and Ukrainian foot soldiers.
>>747572967like always gundam BTFO americans
>>747577081Terrans are straight from w40k and starship troopers
Where were you when you realized that that's not a hive in the background?StarCraft General Manager and Creative Director Dan Hay confirmed there IS Protoss architecture in the trailer. So why were marines attacking an infested Protoss base?
>>747572667there is something more offensive about an octaroon than a straight sub saharan african
Did you people just casually forget about spider mines?
>>747576492>Meat is cheaper. Meat will always be cheaper.No it isn't. It's much cheaper to lose a drone over a soldier.
>>747573439Would love to see a sci-fi setting where brown slug-people are burned as fuel in order to power interstellar spaceships. That would be a good setting.
>>747595845>Best Gundam designed by an Americangg (git gud) no rematch
>>747572667No idea why every reply to this post isn't just making fun of him for blatantly being Indian.You guys don't need to construct arguments or narratives, just call him Indian. Look at how dogshit his English is.
>>747595717Not to mention zerg buildings are living tissue. Drone strikes that don't penetrate and kill the living organism at its core presumably deep underground will just see the damage repaired in two weeks. Explosive drones are probably the least coat effective weapon to deploy against zerg.It'd be like using a grenade to try and kill an ant colony or a fungal colony.>>747596267That's not even true in our world.Especially since China cut off Samarium.Do you think US cares more about losing a thousand soldiers vs losing a single UAD or the UUV (like the one Iran recently captured), full of tech that could be reversibly engineered and expensive rare earth magnets?Meat is always cheaper, no exceptions.
I don't feel like there's anything interesting left to do with Starcraft. The Zerg are fully explored. The Protoss are fully explored. Infested Protoss is basically wasted on SC2's Xel Naga god garbage (which also completely wasted the concept of the Xel Naga).What is left to do? Introduce a new faction that slots between animalistic hivemind, honorbound ancient warriors, and greedy retarded infighting humans?If they can't do that much, or fundamentally try something new that completely alters how these 3 races interact, this game shouldn't even get made.
>ctrl+F "zest">ctrl+F "buck"
>>747596937if blizzard weren't retarded they would just create another expansion to broodwar. just add new units and buildings to the old game.
>>747572667fake outrage threadcastrate yourself without any medicationdo not disinfect the areaonly use a blunt, rusty scissor
>>747597317Historically, these instructions would more likely be followed on reddit.
>>747581379>>747581807not fair, you raping 40k babs like thatevery successful scifi/fantasy franchise p much is doing what moorcock did on a whim within 2 minutes of scribbling as he was writing 50 stories a minute for some fucking magazine
>>747596347>not U.C.
>>747599269You retard.
If the recruit in the trailer was a strong jawed blue eyed blond haired dude getting slaughtered in a minute and then powerwashed out of his armor how would you react?Be honest now
>>747572667>nuke planet from orbit>planet is now uninhabitable and deprived of resources>this was also super fucking expensive and resource intensive>good job team, this is a net winRendering a planet useless is generally considered a waste unless it's absolutely, extremely necessary like the Flood have infested it or something. The zerg are not that bad. As for drones, the doctrine behind drone warfare is nothing new, it's literally 1:1 the doctrine of the American Army since WW1. Soften the target area with sustained artillery, seize with infantry. Nothing can effectively be considered captured and secured unless a soldier is standing on it.
>>747593357ok but to what end? If you're not going to hold the contested territory, what is the point of the war?
>>747600970Exhausting the enemy's resources. If they want to hold that position, but I don't care about it, blowing up the position is a sound decision.All sides in WW1 and some of WW2 extensively discussed and wargamed the concept of exhausting the enemy's morale and will to fight by inflicting massive casualties. Unfortunately since all sides viewed the war as an existential threat, there was no amount of casualties you could inflict that would make someone bow out. But the idea is technically sound.
I just watched the trailer and I'm confused how they landed the punchline but completely fucked up the setup.
>>747573439>100% of americans voted for thisSo, Starcraft is a reflection
>>747596063>So why were marines attacking an infested Protoss basethey're finally addressing the infested protoss problem three games later kek
>>747572667Brazilians and Indians should be shot into the sun.
>>747581964There is no conflict here, humans are respawning like roaches to perpetually be fed into the grinder despite decades of being nearly wiped out by bizarre aliens
Tired of human losing to aliens
>>747591334blizzard used to use cartoony aesthetics to enhance visual clarity with low resolution/isometric graphics, then they misunderstood their own product and decided everything should be cartoony. The original warcraft/starcraft aesthetic was always edgy comic book, like spawn or liefeld or whatever, which uses plenty of black ink and angular surfaces, but they decided everything should have little contrast and look soft. For some fucking reason.
>>747572667Because Americans have been pushed out of AAA game dev by islamo-judeo-satanist leftists for nearly 20 years.
>>747575835>I hate everythingYour opinion is invalid, shut up.
>>747603413I had no desire to see another Avatar after the first. Most paint-by-numbers shit ever.HEY GUYS, DID YOU KNOW? NATURE GOOD, WHITE MAN BAD!!
>>747578694You just described the White Genocide happening in Europe.
What actually takes me out of it is how the marine in the trailer seems like this wide-eyes naieve guy. Starcraft has it in lore that the majority of Terran soldiers are convicts. The Marauder is exceptional in that a whopping 43% of them have never been convicted of a crime.
>>747572667>Why can't americans design cool scifi universes?Geez, it's not like Americans created multi-billion dollar franchises like Star Wars and Star Trek
>>747574938No that was the UED, the humans that came from earth in brood war. The dominion is the dictatorship created by Mengsk during Starcraft
>>747604251aren't Dominion marines just normal guys? Or at least, non-criminals.
>>747604572The Dominion brainwashes convincts using drugs into being Marines.
>>747574938...no? Terrans are the human inhabitants of the Koprulu Sector descended from those sent there by the scientist Douran Routhe as an experiment when the fascist UPL government was undergoing Project Purity in order to purge humanity of dissident elements and cyborgs/mutants (officially they killed 400 million people), and Routhe grabbed a bunch because hell they were going to be killed anyway, and sent them off in space for a colonization mission they figured was gonna fail anyway.The Dominion is one of 3 Terran powers in the Koprulu sector, people forget the Umojans and Kel-Morian Combine were never part of the Confederate or later Dominion governments are are their own separate political entities.
>>747581071>better at least one of them consist of US alliesI take it you don't see Spain as an US ally anymore then. Was it the moment they told your Israeli masters to eat shit? Should the rest of NATO (of which Morocco is only an MNNA) expect the same treatment?
>>747604631Dominion banned it between Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void
>>747605023Officially it was banned but NCO showed there's a lot of shit going on that Valerian and Matt aren't seeing.
>>747604572>marines just normal guysmarines in SC, no matter the context, are never normal kek. they are meant to die in waves, get stimmed up while doing so, and if they somehow survive, then they've made their penny's worth.
>>747605951>they are meant to die in wavesnta but it's funny in context because that's true in SC1 where marines suck but in SC2 marines are god-tier units that are the bread and butter of Terran play and absolutely are not meant to just throw away and die.
Honestly, human infantry is so good and cost effective its never leaving warfare.
>dronesStarcraft takes place across many environments, some with environments that aren't good for drones.>nukesYou can't nuke every battle.>bio-weaponsZerg specialize in bio-warfare they'll just mutate to make themselves immune.>genetic modificationsMarines are supposed to be cost effective and not expensive super soldiers.
>>747572667It's probably been said a dozen times but having drones and robots do all the work is fucking boring for a setting.
>>747604871Honestly, when has the US actually been friendly with the ruling Spanish power in contemporary history? US chose to support the fucking commie side of the Civil War and all of its famous writers cried at Franco for being a big meanie-head.
>>747572667>>747573321retarded nigger
>>747584542>just not space operas.the fuck do you think gundam is lmao. literally mecha soap opera.
War never changes.
>>747572667>>747573439racially ambiguous amerimutt marinedyin rn lmao fr
>>747572667>durrdurruduru Americans dururduudrurrdurrrr>Too stupid to understand the status quo a warrior class enforcesThere's a reason you speak ENGLISH cunt.
Warhammerfags are the trannies of TTRPG
>>747586146you retard
>>747572667Ok so Blizzard only comprehend games in terms of characters and story because it's just foids sockpuppeting franchises they didn't create.They don't understand that games are a vibe and gameplay.So when they try to present a duplicate of a game like Helldivers 2 which is just vibe and gameplay they have to do it through a story and character lens.That's why it comes off as so uninteresting and forced.
gib medic gf
>>747615885>Turn your head and cough.
