>Toggle off new animations>Toggle off transmog>Toggle off new ui >Toggle off new graphicsYup. It's classic+ time.Discuss the implications of the classic+ #changes.
Is the deep dive vod up anywhere yet?
>>747584771Toggled off my interest in the game.
>>747584771>OMG IT NEEDS TO LOOK AS SHITTY AND CLUNKY AS I REMEMBER IT OR IT ISN'T REAL WOWsome of you need therapy fr
>>747584771Can I toggle off the ugly ass neon haired fanfic elves?
I'm non buynary
>>747584771Why is it a dialog option instead of a notmal toggle in option menu?Anyway, not playing WoWshit. Played it like 15 years ago. I might be interested in that singleplayer thing, but I'm not exactly starving for games to play.
>>747585367yeah you just click the slider and give them a white skin color and blonde hair
>>747585712yeah but can I toggle the existence of the lorelol blue dyed hair elves off entirely?
>>747584771Its not enough that I get what I want. Everyone else should have to play the way I want too
>For thousands of years, a band of high elven exiles has remained safe and hidden upon their flying sanctuary of Zephras Isle.>These "Skyborne"as they call themselves, shared a bond with air elementals who kept their island aloft in the realm of Skywall. >But in recent years, the elementals vanished without a trace, disrupting the delicate magic that kept them safe in their haven amongst the clouds. >Now, a new generation of Skyborne elves face a time of unprecedented change, and must seek new allies and sources of magic to protect their hidden home and secure their future...The absolute state.
>>747585838yeah you go and click the button that says "anniversary, era" and you get classic without changes.
>>747586380But I want to play classic+Which is faithful to classic.
>>747585650What singleplayer thing?
>>747585838yes its called playing the original nigger
>>747586342All they had to do was give goblins/ogres to Horde and High Elves to Alliance. But no we had to have the super secret new race in the sky.
>>747586541yeah but I wanna play classic+
>>747584771>paid subscriptionmiss me with that corporate greed shit, fag
>oh nonono war / rogue bros they are buffing casters heal;ers and nerfing us into the ground!silver lining: arms will be raid vaible by spamming slam which got buffed. Rogues will have raid viable hemo spec which will probably be OK in pvp too.Overall both classes look kinda lame for wow f. Good thing im not married to playing rogue or warrior, i was just hoping they would have some fun stuff but whatever, warlock it is.
Most of the changes are good and what people who actually play wow want.needs work but I'm in. resubbed
>>747587074sure shill
>>747586973The problem with backstab is that it is worse than sinister strike if it doesnt crit so nerfing its crit talent by 66% is pretty wild. 45% chance at another combo point might be worth it in long fights but its going to feel like ass to play. Huge L there.
>>747587074>Most of the changes are good and what people who actually play wow want.like?
>>747586973rogue is already shit in 1.12 lmaoblizzard never again
i got rank 14 on classic, if i have to play arenas in forever im not playing
>>747587254talents, engine update, new content, new lore different from retail>>747587220you werent gonna play anyway go seethe on reddit
>>747587493>paying for a 22 year old gameyou right i wasn't going to play itand no i won't go reddit . you can fuck off but i guess you get paid more by shilling here
>>747587074We have the most loyal goyim, don't we folks?
>>747586342why are they high elf "exiles"? why not just a group of high elves that got saved from the sundering by air elementals? that would be an interesting foil against the naga at the very least
>>747584771sounds based
>>747587493>talentsshit from retail>engine updatenobody wanted this>new contentfucking fanfic elves>new lore different from retailand worse somehow
5 Blizzard™ shekels have been deposited into your Battle.Net™ Keep it up, sister!
>>747584771>if I close my eyes and pretend it isnt there, its almost like im not supporting a game made for trannies!Play better games, preferably ones without pride events.
>>747588085get help for your tranny obsession
>>747587235He's leaving out that there's a talent in sub that makes BS have a chance to let you use ambush without being in stealth, and it's a pretty high proc chance so you're probably going to be doing 1 ambush for every 2-3 BS, so even if it doesn't crit it's still going to be more DPS as it enables Ambush which is an absurd ability
>>747588119You should be saying that to the WoW devs
>>747587670>>747587579Oy vey stop liking things I dont like my 60$ goyslop is much much better than yours!
>>747587980>i dont like it okay the great news is videogames are optional
>>747588171The only reason I even know about any of this shit is from you obsessed retards crying about it.You need to stop projecting
>>747588085>NOOOOO YOU CANT TURN OFF CLIENT-SIDE DETAILS AND GRAPHICS FOR YOUR OWN ENJOYMENTholy faggot
>>747586342They refuse to just give us high elves STILL for some reason, they keep making these fucking weird blueberry flavors when we just want vanilla.
>>747588262Aww the poor little tranny cockroach hates having a light shown on its infestation
>>747588338Good job proving my point
>>747584771>toggle off new graphicsThis is all I care about, is this a confirmed feature?
>>747588395Good job admitting to being a tranny, I didnt hear a single denial this whole time. How about you go groom some kids on discord instead of shitting up every game and fandom you touch?
>>747588478Literally rent free
>>747588420yes. you can even turn off modern character animations
>>747586342>and must seek new allies and sources of magic to protect their hidden home and secure their future...isn't that just Kael and his people on wc3?
>>747588420retail graphics for those who want them and classic models + animations for those who don't.transmog is the same, you can turn it ALL off
>>747588541>im a WoW fan and I LOOVE being a faggot!You creatures are so funny
>>747588578Well I'm sold as long as the ugly ass new graphics can be disabled, so that's cool
>>747585285If the only other alternative is it looks like retail then yes that is better. Idk why they refuse to go in ANY other direction tho
>>747588294>They refuse to just give us high elves STILL for some reasonsome one high up has an autistic mandate about high elvesmaybe Ion, who knows
>>747588629Who are you quoting?
>>747584771Is it possible to toggle off skyborne players?
>druid buffed to insane degree>already druid players on r***t complaining druids dont look good enoughits like SoD all over again, druids are made into hero classes and the shit for brains furries are still complaining.
>>747588731>blizzard starts banning people for kicking skyborne players from groups
>>747584771is there an option to completely remove players using smurfs from my game? hide their chat messages and not display them on my shard/layer?
>>747586608>I want new content>but not THAT content
>>747588854No. They paid 30 dollars for that race and you didn't you poorfag, they're a protected class and you're a peasant.
>>747588731>uhh bro why are elves in world of warcraftthis tranny cope is gonna last less than a week private server troon
>>747588716(you), of course anon! We all know how much WoW fans love suckin cock and trannying themselves up!
>>7475872562nd best melee and great for raid loot distribution which is something you meta niggers NEVER care about
>>747588914thanks. will continue to play on my self hosted private server with a small group of my friends.
>>747588849If only people did that
>During today’s Warcraft Forever Deepdive, Blizzard announced that their new game mode won’t feature traditional Server Realms. Instead, players will be able to choose between one of three (with Hardcore, four) rulesets.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1wfa0v6/blizzard_wow_forever_is_exactly_what_i_and_many/Retail reddit is HYPED!
>>747589212>megaserver with 4 shards>pvp, pve, rppvp and roleplay>uhh this is bad because im a dumb nigger who doesn't know this is how classic servers have been since 2021
>>747586342Literally special safe space snowflake elves
>>747588163>it's a pretty high proc chance>15%>so you're probably going to be doing 1 ambush for every 2-3 BS>15%, every 2-3 BSfor every 10 backstabs it will proc 1-2 times. backstab costs 60 energy, takes 6 seconds for a rogue to generate 60 energy, so for for every 1 minute and 40 seconds you get an ambush or two (lol)
Zoomer without much wow experience here, I'm interested in trying this out for a month but not sure what to play. Seen some balance changes in thread, are all classes generally viable or are there some that are far worse? I am probably only going to play one character so I don't want to get fucked, an old friend of mine had me play classic for a few weeks when it released and I did not like the class I was playing so the whole thing felt partially wasted. Was thinking of doing something like an orc warrior
>>7475890342nd place is the first loser.
>>747588085umm just toggle it off chuddy
>>747584771do you think one can trigger transmogphobes by just equipping lewd Armor and following them around?
>>747584771Why can't this shit be toggled in a menu instead of needing to talk to a NPC?
>>747588240It just isn't classic+Not even remotelyBut you wouldn't know because you're a retailtroon who coopted classic
>>747589034>shares t3 tokens with warrior>shares most weapons and many offpieces with warrior>brings zero fucking utility compared to warrior other than muh 200 more armor sunder at the cost of cucking your own damage>mediocre in pvp in 1.12 actual cuck chair class no matter how you spin it
>>747584771>toggle everything off>still pay full subscriptionwow forever should be $5 max
>>747584771don't forget>RP server selectedits #journey time
>>747589601nah if you turn it off its off for everybody you see its client side
>>747588005>words words wordscool leftist meme
>>747589364phasing is antithetical to MMOs. i wouldnt expect a zoomer to understand though
>>747589290You should go back there
Did you get yours?
>>747589902Forever is for us redditors, chud. I'm right where I belong.
>>747588163where are people finding talent trees and things i dont see this info anywhere
>>747589429aight nvm, thought it was 15% rank 1 and had 3 ranks. It shit
>>747584771I am old. Wtf is transmogrification?
>>747588005Wowtards will do anything to justify their addiction They have no self control whatsoever
>>747584771>Still have blue elfs with new druid model >Cause fuck you China numba 1
>>747588731nope
>>747589975theres a talent calculator floating around
>>747588731Did people kick vulpera players? Dropped this shit before blizzshits added them.
>nooo my slop is better than yours stop liking things i dont like
anyone pretending that "flying elves that live in a secret sky city" is a new thing is kind of retardedblizzard is just putting their own spin on winged elves, just how they did with Tieflings, minotaurs, and various other fantasy race tropes just be glad they didn't give them wings, or it would be all over
>>747584771I haven't played since legionHow does transmorg work now? Will I have to collect all the equipment again or does it draw from your account?
>>747589820I know I just mean equip the original gaer and follow them around orgrimmar as an orc pimp with a bunch of blue hos
>>747590134yeah i figured that out already. i was hoping, y'know, someone would post it
>>747589601Why would anyone care about that? If it's the actual armor they're wearing I want to see it.
>>747589982there is no way the talents on that site are accurate, it probably is 15% for rank 1
>>747584771My question is if other people can know if I am NOT able to see transmogs Because I want everyone to know I cannot see their tranny transmogs hahahhahahahaa
Why can't the players SHARE their reality? It's so annoying that they have to include all this shit only for different players to toggle things on or off. Let us have the same shared reality ffs
>>747590490>is irredeemable garbage in your path
>>747590568What the fuck are you smoking? Not having to look at the absolute eyesores people dress their characters in is a good thing, retard.
>>747589987It's glamour from FF14. You pick the appearances of other pieces of armor and apply them over the ones you are wearing
>>747586973Wonder why they're shitting on melee so hard. Leveling a rogue or a warrior is already like pulling teeth. The least you could do is let them be good for sticking with it to level cap.
>>747590624which means they should have just refrained from adding transmogs to CLASSIC PLUS
>>747589975>>747590409https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/
It's just retail minus.
I'll play it because Paladins are finally getting something and Rogues are being dumpstered like they deserve. Fuck Rouges, nobody likes them
>>747590540They'd probably know because anyone not toggling transmog on would be in a clown suit
>>747590375Answer.
>>747590381yeah if you dont use mogs you just appear normal
>>747589290Of course. It's made for retail fags.
>>747590639It was the same with SoD. the idea is that rogues and warriors already had it good 30 years ago so now they should suck compared to healers / casters.
>>747590814paladins were always good and rogues were always overrated. a good pally should be beating a good rogue in a 1v1 in classic and will be more useful to group with for 5 mans too. this is talking about regular vanilla too t- played paladin
>>747586973>bloodthrist gives movement speed just like it did on turtleare these niggers serious?
>>747591197I always thought healers and casters were pretty pillow princess in the first place, but what do I know
>>747584771They should have themed this around the infinite dragons pulling some extreme shit to make a new timeline and then called the game WoW: Infinite. It conveys the same idea as Forever but it sounds cooler.
>>747590728>siphon life/soul link warlock is possible>oh and your demon passively heals from your own spell damagelollmao, even
Tangentially related but Warcraft 3 is literally lying to people and advertising a new graphics option but it isn't functional for RoC or TFT which seems like false advertising to me but almost nobody actually seems to give a shit about Warcraft 3 enough to even riot about this, it's just complete apathy at this point which is a little depressing to me.
>>747588541>Literally rent free
Ynow, I honestly dont think it went that badly. Except for the Blue Elves. The Blue Elves completely take me out of it.
>>747590231Likely not, so all hope is lost.
unsubbed since SL, been playing HC for a couple months and found it didn't really add anything to the game. "the journey" is bullshit, especially after doing it all 20 years ago.nothing revealed convinces me that things will be much different, but i'll give them a couple months to change my mind.
>>747591473apparently nothing
>>747591831Yeah I liked most of what I saw, better profs, dungeons in zones that needed them, expanded zones, new zones. retooled abilities, I got what I wanted, but those blue elves I just don't understand
>>747592025apparently
>>747584771can I toggle off undead paladins?
>>747592023I just enjoy the simple solo grind/farm, in retail it is always exploiting some goup farming strat until it is nerfd or the market flooded
>>747588293you're the one paying for this garbage, no wonder we view goyim as lesser.
>>747592259yeah man all you do is you go play vanilla instead of classic+ theres your version with no changes.
>30 dollars for Blood Elves again
>>747592259
>>747590762How?
>>747591819Just proving my point here
>>747592427>Optional purchase
>>747584771None of these are gameplay.
>>747592872The gameplay is classic vanilla wow.
>>747585192Looks like complete dogshit. Blue Sky Elves.
>>747586342I really appreciate Blizzard doing this because I had no interest in ever playing any WoW version they shat out, and this is a FANTASTIC thing to point at and just instantly dismiss the whole thing.>it's clear they have no fucking idea what people want out of Classic+ and the Skyborne capture that immediately, and on top of that they're charging you $30 for itI do not think there is a single change/idea they could have announced that would more immediately show how disastrous the whole thing is going to be, and then they slapped a price tag on it for good measure.Turtle, Ascension, and Epoch died for this shit lmao
>>747592826Christ you're retarded
>>747592826Yeah no shit.
>>747586342
>>747592989>>747593000>Nooooo Blizzard isn't allowed to make me pay for things that are optional in a videogame that I don't have to playYou're the retard thinking world of warcraft is a charity
>>747589550the decline of the warrior/fighter in modern mmos is something to behold
>>747584771You are a subhuman tranny
>>747593212>brownoid mad he has to pay a wow sub again and his private server got nukedget owned
>>747593117>You're the retard thinking world of warcraft is a charityIt's not, because a subscription is required to play it.How do those boots taste?
>>747592826I wish shameless paypigs were an optional feature of my gaming communities.
>>747593117Goycattle like you would pay money for a reskinned race when we have gotten Allied Races for free.
>>747584771now a toggle for turning the gay shit off
Imagine asking for something for years, and then Blizzard makes it so obscenely clear they don't understand it, or don't care about what you want, or both.And then rather than picking up your bags and leaving, you say, "Yes daddy Blizzard. Thank you, daddy Blizzard. I'll just eat around the shit, daddy Blizzard."Absolutely not even a scrap of dignity or self-respect.
>>747584771As long as I can donate my money to blizzard I don't care if it even crash at each 5 minutesHOME
>>747593702>it's not what I wanted you know this shit is getting updated already as we speak?
>>747588731nigga they removed the /spit emote in tbc classic because people used it on boosties and people who bought a store mountthey're here to stay so chuds will pay
>>747584771Transmog is great and all but they fucking BETTER have the goddamned Barbershop
>>747588420>>747588676good taste
>>747588676Can't disable the retail creature models they crammed in there.
>>747594739look everybody, he found his next thing to be mad about!
>>747594946It is 30 dollars to respond to me, pay up paypiggy.
>>747594946God I hate standards too. We should just consoom.
I wanna know all the class changes, which means probably waiting for people to post everything from the beta
when do we just toggle everything off and play classic wow?
>>747595506that version is called era and it comes free in your sub if you don't want to play classic+
>>747594946if you're upset at his post, just toggle it off
>>747584771then the transmog toggle will be first to goit will start with being unable to toggle pride month transmogs :^)then because 'no one was complaining' and being able to erase other folx troonmogs is hateful and bigoted against representation
>>747596469delusional
>>747584771Druid>omen of clarity made baseline>natures grasp made baseline>enrage made baseline>bash made baseline>feral gets mangle at level 25>resto gets swiftmendOP as fuck. druids are going to be basically hero classes in PvP and PvEWarrior>arms gets overpower procs from your own attacks 10% chance>improves slam which doesnt interupt auto attacks>get a PvE version of mortal strike with half the cost for twice the cooldown that can also dismount people in PvP.>protection can charge in defensive stance (not in combat) which is effectively not a change at all for anyone who knew how to use macros to stance dance.>fury nerfed into the ground, every notable talent is nerfed, even bloodlust.wow the devs REALLY hate warriors.
>>747589975google wow Forever talent calculator are you fucking retarded
Has there been any actual new talents at all or is it more and more things randomly plucked from the many future versions of talent trees?
>>747597082Plenty of brand new stuff, some plucked. Mix and match with promises for more in the future including new classes entirely different from Retail.
Did they fix Paladins or what?
>>747597396Made them broken as fuck. Hybrid classes are going to outshine everyone else just like they did in SOD
>>747597540Yeah but I mean not as healers because that is all they are in vanilla
Look at the fucking faggot on stage right now. He's got a manbun and a nose piercing. That's all I need to know about the troons making this game.
>>747592826>take the most popular horde race on retail>make sure they're unplayable>sell a $30 solutionThat's all you need to see to know Forever isn't for the players. It's a cash grab. Now pay $60 to get into the beta that caps at level 30.
>>747585650>Why is it a dialog option instead of a notmal toggle in option menu?spaghetti code. no joke. these stuff have to be programmed on the server side via a npc instead of manipulating the client.
>>747597601There were prot pallys too, ret was the real herring in vanilla.
>>747588623They aren't retail graphics though, they're the same models with upscaled textures it seems
So we've got 3 new zones (Mt. Hyjal, riverglades, the sky island thing) but do we have any idea about zone changes/new dungeons/raids beyond Mulgore
>>747597838Prot pallies were literally just casting buffs and shit on people to get aggro and have no taunt.
>>747592826I really don't get it. Why doesn't this new game iteration come with the new race included? Is WoW Forever free for owners of WoW or WoW Classic?
>>747597601>>747597838fun fact: you only needed 20 points in holy to raid in vanilla so you could take 31 points in ret or prot and still raid. of all the hybrid classes paladin had the easiest time being different specs for raids.>>747598076if you werent retarded you could still tank in vanilla.Paladins got an ability that increases threat from all their holy spells by like 90%. one problem paladins had was that so many of their players were in fact fucking retards and they never thought to themselves >"hey wait a minute, i have an ability that increases all holy threat by 90%, maybe i should use a seal that consistently deals holy damage!"it was a skill issue the whole time.
>>747598638yes, you only need sub time to play wow forever. buying the thing gets you warcraft 3 remaster and the new race.
>>747598725I want to be able to play ret for leveling/world content and then dungeon or raid as prot if possible.
>>747592826Blood Elves and Draenei weren't "optional purchases" when TBC first launched. Death Knights weren't "optional purchases" when Wrath first launched. Way I see it, they should either just flat charge for the entirety of Forever or just make it free with a sub.
>>747586342>have another go at trying to not make the game shit after vanilla>still give pallies to the horde and shamans to the allianceWhy even bother?also can't wait for the 1000 new quests of walking and talking to the NPC next door
>>747598906Wrong. You couldn't use BELF or Draenei without buying TBC you fucking goon.
>>747598906WoW forever is free with the sub, you just pay extra to be a blue elf (and beta)
I WILL NOT EAT THE SLOPI WILL NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN
>>747598906???? the new races were expansion locked to TBC and DK was locked to buying wrathboth were 50$ locks what the fuck are you talking about
>>747586342They went through the mental gymnastics to implement this instead of just adding high elves and ogres. That said, BE and Draenei were good additions to each faction I always felt, even though Alliance and Horde could’ve had either one honestly
>>747592826looking forward to the day when Blizz starts locking raids behind paywalls and people will still pay for it kek
>>747599167I can understand ogres because they'd likely need some new models for equipment to fit them, but High Elves are in retail now aren't they?
>>747598906You're retarded.
i would've liked to casually level an undead paladin, but there's now i'm paying the full $15/month for that experience. also i'm pretty sure they'll find a way to ruin it further with the wow token, boosts, gaudy cosmetics etc the sky elves are prove of that.
>>747599208It's kinda of bullshit i need to buy Wrath to raid ICC
>>747584771Someone will make an addon that changes the models of the Skyborne into Blood Elves and get banned, or other people banned, and it will be a huge shit show.
Game will be ruined with no moderation, bots, tokens, and no punishment for gold buyers
>>747586342>high elves = alliance>ogres = hordethey had one job
I can get over blue elves but they had to make them trannies with the colored hair
>>747599417wdym change their models to blood elves, their models ARE blood elves, and i wouldn't be surprised if you can look like a BE or HE with the char customizer..... the only issue i have with Sky Elves is the lore fuckery which has been an issue for a long time.
>>747599376It'd be pretty bullshit if I had to buy Wrath and then had to pay extra to raid ICC. But hey let's keep defending every jew tactic a jew-run company does in an already turbulent economy that is nickel and diming the fuck out of the average person and getting worse and worse every year.
>we will not be giving Latin America their own shard>please use our new AI translation tool to argue with the huehues in their own language or to understand the slurs they're calling you after they ninja the dropDead on arrival.
>>747592826they should make level 60 an optional purchase, otherwise you're a lvl 59 cuck. would you defend that?.
>>747599512>lore fuckeryThere's more offshoot branches of high elves than there are orcs in orgrimmar at this point.
You guys do realise this isn't for classic players, right?This is 100% for retail players to have something to do during content droughtsIt's gonna play nothing like classic. It might look like classic but once you get your hands on it you'll realise it's not classic +, it's retail -
>>747599598RetardThey are using shards, you are sorted based on your preferences and geography. The issue is this is retail dungeon finder shit. Zero community when it's random fags from different shards you'll never see again until the game dies and shards are automatically rolled together
>>747586342this is so fucking uninspired lol
>>747599706>this isn't for classic playersClassic grognards still have classic that's fine. I'm looking forward to new things.
>>747599598it wont shard you with beaners with high ping and even if it did/kick beaner
>>747584771Is it possible to turn off all the new models except gnome females? This is important.
>>747586342>>747599472Even if they wanted Horde to have a "pretty" race, just add high elves and blood elves. It'd be LESS fucking work, and probably make them more money. There has to be some autistic person who will spend millions on this special snowflake shit, when what people want is right there.
>>747599542I mean that's not what's happening here. I will say the fact that the major complaints seem to be that people have to pay for WoW+ likely means it's going to do rather well.
>>747599770some dyed hair cat lady said "I WANT TO PUT IN ANOTHER BLOOD ELF RECOLOR"and then they said "yes honey"and it was doneand some flimsy excuse made for its existence
>>747599717
>>747586342it's so funny to me that blizzard CONTINUES to shit on high elf fags i hope they never get addedi hope people continue to have blood elves and void elves and now this new race rubbed in their faces forever, because they're literally just high elves by a different name
>>747586342For all the places why would these elves go to some random ass wind elemental plane?? Did they come up with this after designing the blue elves?
>>747599853The only, and I mean ONLY reason I can think of to not add High Elves/Blood Elves is that they might feel like they cannot sell retail players Blood Elves and they clearly wanted to have a purchasable product for WoW Forever. So a totally new race feels like they can get away with a racepack. That is all I can think.
>>747600036>something something wind elementals sticking a fork in the eye of the earth elementals by being nice to elves after the whole centaur thing with Theredas
>>747600064that sounds right until you realize that helf fags would pay twice the amount to play them
>>747599706This is the gap between retail and classic to try to get people to play the one they aren't already playing. They want people playing all 3 while they space out content throughout all 3.
No realms sounds cool
>>747599763You sound really confident for a homosexual.See you in 8 weeks when huehues are running around stealing your peacebloom and you're logging into and army of Tauren alts to spawn free herbs every 5 minutes.
>>747600064Ogres are an extant model in the game, dude. All they had to do was come up with a named Ogre, new animations, and just a reason for ogre mercs or even those under blackhand to join the horde. you would have been good for the next 10 years - no exaggeration - if they kept those races and just worked on improving the base game.
>>747585192If they wanna give both sides elves and are gonna be this lazy about it why not just go High Elves and Blood Elves?
>>747600487There are ogres that are associated with the Horde. It started in WC3 when Rexxar killed their leader.
>>747586342They're doing this because over 80% of Horde players are BElves now and they know that if a 'pretty' option isn't given then the modern audience won't play Horde.
>>747600487Will you people get fucking real? They're not adding Ogres, at least not any time soon.BLOOD ELVES ARE OBJECTIVELY THE MOST POPULAR RACENOT JUST ON HORDETHE MOST POPULAR RACE ACROSS BOTH FACTIONSI am sorry but people ALWAYS wanted a "pretty" horde race. Do *I* think it is cringe? Yes. I played a troll and I loved my Jamaican hunter. However, even in TBC they were the most popular race. They were always gonna do Elves. Even arguing about Ogres or Naga or anything is just dumb.
>>747600724>Modern Audience>TBC was released nearly 20 years ago>BEs were the most popular Horde Race back then too
>>747600507Because this way they get a money injection for their new product because you aren't buying a game to play
>>747600748ye no balls, play it save corpo trash
>>747600748Perhaps..... but why do some new sky elves bullshit, unless the goal is to introduce a discount version of what people want to make them associate what they want with the shitty thing so they are more receptive to other stuff i just don't get it. and that's pure copium.
>>747600507This is a way to make horde pay for elves, they're just letting alliance purchase them too so it's less obvious.
>>747600507>>747600895See: >>747600064How do you sell Blood Elves to people who own TBC and are currently playing BEs on retail?>Just give them for fre-Not so fast, goy. They want to sell a racepack. I personally wish it was High Elves/Blood Elves and I think these blue elves are fugly and fucktarded and they even know it so they made you able to make their skin white to play as ghetto Blood Elves.
>>747600748That still raises the question of, with what infinite reason, did Blizzard choose this, over a neutral high/blood elf race? Literally exactly what they're describing for these Skyborne, but with less asset creation.
ONE MEGA SERVER. Welp, looks like all the cool open world shit gonna get funneled to streamers.
>>747600748no shit you spaz. WoW is fully pozzed, there's no redeeming it and I haven't played retail in years. but its worth pointing out how much of a misstep they made with TBC.
>>747600964Imagine if they gave us High Elves for the alliance and Dark Iron Dwarves for the horde.
Is there a toggle for the $30 race?>>747601027Toggle it. TOGGLE IT!
>>747600964>How do you sell Blood Elves to people who own TBC and are currently playing BEs on retail?People have been moaning for high elves for so long that they probably could have sold those alone for $40.
>>747600724So... not classic?
>>747601027No wonder they're making people use first names and last names if everyone is on a single server. They really aren't taking this seriously if there's only 1 server lmao.
>>747601140I think they probably could have sold just High Elves too, but they want to catch people playing both factions. I earnestly believe, since you can change skin tones to white, that they had this exact conversation that we're having now.
>>747600964You just say fuck you this isn't TBC and they will pay for it anyways.
Don't play rogueblizztard has no idea how to make the class good
>>747601192can not wait to name my orc Nig Gur
>>747600748so were any of the races added since blood elves intended to be "more popular" than blood elves?
>>747601420They didn't have to because Blood Elves fulfilled the biggest complaint that the player base had about horde (everyone ugly). I hate to say it dude, but whatever nostalgia you have is just blinders. The forums back in the day regularly complained about every horde race being ugly. Horde players wanted it. They got it, and then from then on they were the most popular race. I think that it is cringe that the pretty horde race dominated the game since it was put in, but it is what it is. The customer is always right in matters of taste.
>>747601396I hope you're paying the $30 to reserve your name early so some anon doesn't steal it!
>noooooo you can't add things to classic even though it's classic+???????????
>>747601301>retail classeswho cares
>>747601192For me, it's Numb Digger
Gating elves as the premium paid race reminds me of those shitty korean mmos from the late 00's and early 10's that did the exact same thing.
>A Mor'Ladim spell/healing ring
>>747601420no they were introduced to be shit and remind you how great blood elves are
>Shilling on mainYeah this is world of warcraft 2
>Every 3-5 months get a new race>It's paywalled 30$This is an acceptable outcome
>>747601747
>>747601902foid logic
>>747601548okay but you were implying ogres or any other ugly race can't be added because they would not compare to the popularity of blood elves. that isn't how they decide upon adding playable races to the game.
>>747601747Can't wait for the inevitable $90 cash shop mount with auction house NPCs on it
Sorry, but even with your old graphics you are still going to see this.
THEY GUTTED CONSECRATION AOE FARMING IS DEAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>747584771No naga, dont care. They could have at least added goblins at launch.
>>747584771>implement transmog>can only change items into others of the same armor categoryWHY EVEN IMPLEMENT IT THEN?That whole scenario about someone being afraid that people are going to roll on transmog gear, despite not needing it and them specifically creating a system, so everyone get the appearance was a fucking waste then?
>>747602047I will not. My guild will be called <No Skyggers> and they will be banned.
>>747600748Than they should have just added Blood Elves.. Better to be "lazy" and add something established than be "innovative" (palette swap) you pulled out of your ass.
>>747601902The people who say "shut up about things you don't like nobody wants to hear it" have been seething nonstop about orange man for over a decade btw
>>747601968They can add them AFTER they add Elves.
>>747602057they gutted blizzard also, mages are basically useless now
>>747602136>My guild will be called <No Skyggers>Based, I'll keep an eye out.
>>747584771>uninstall retarded gay ass blizzshart game>play on slav/chink pserver with a miner in the launchernah, I'm going home
>asspull elves for whatever fucking reasonshan't be playing
>>747602082More races are confirmed to be coming as early as the next 3 months.
>>747602498>Elves in world of warcraft?OH MY GOD BRO NO WAY ELVES IN WARCRAFT WAT A FUCKEN ASSPUL
>>747589765I remember being fresh level 60 with barely any epics and still 1v1 cucking high warlord warr in WSG.
>>747602539>confirmedI've been busy so I haven't been able to catch every detail of Blizzcon, so can you point me to where that was said?
Still amazed people will play this shit. That's some extremely good indoctrination.
>>747602057retail-
>>747602574>disingenuous trannyshan't be replying no more
>>747602627I am playing it because my GF has second hand nostalgia for WoW since I played it and she is desperate to feel some of what I felt, even though I never really talked it up much. I expect us to quit after 2-3 months.
I just hope all the streamerfaggots play PvP so we can see their seething when they get camped.
>>747602539Oooooo I hope they add Vulpera as a neutral race before goblins.
>>747586592>All they had to do was give goblins/ogres to Horde and High Elves to Alliance.You're a fucking retard. Do you know how many people play goblins? See for yourself. The same would happen to Ogres.People clamour for "exotic" races and then continue playing Elves.
>>747602689>Double negativeIf he's the tranny you're the autistic retard.
>>747602605no. spoonfeed yourself it takes 5 seconds to google forever dev timeline
>>747602913It's because they gave us meme jersey shore goblins instead of classic vanilla goblins
>>747603010No, retard, it's because nobody plays "ugly" races. Notice the only sub-race that was successful are Void Elves. Together with Blood Elves and Night Elves they constitute 35% of THE ENTIRE PLAYERBASE.
>>747598725You're gonna get kicked out of the guild for trying to raid without all those crit healing talents at the higher end of holy are you insane?You also basically are required to put 18 into prot for Kings and imp conc aura
>>747602913>gnomes that lowUnsurprising but i wonder if they are getting a new starter area, the 'updated old zones' thing definetly showed something off but if it's literally just the retail gnome area that'd be dissapointing.
>>747602913ok so just add high elves to alliance and blood elves to hordeoh wait not "ethical" charging for an already existing race huh, but a recolor is finejesus I hate blishart so fucking much
>>747602539I hope and pray they'll turn Gilneas and Kul Tiras into alternative human starting zones. They already have 95% of the work done there, just turn them into fully playable 1-20 level zones.
>>747603125that means 65% are playing the ugly races though
skyborne look like retoilet trash
>>747602994Already did and found nothing about any new races other than the Skyborne. Once again, post where they said that.
>>747603263Humans and dwarves, without even counting sub-races, are another 16%.
>>747602539Are they also going to cost $30?
>>747603360Hopefully! It keeps poorfags who can't afford 30$ for optional content out of the game!
>>747600724It's funny, I don't even know what they're adding except the blue elves because I just can't get past it. It's already ruined by their addition, nothing else needed to be shown.
>>747602913>People clamour for "exotic" races and then continue playing Elves.Which people? Retail players?
>>747603239Every race including sub races should have their own starting zone. >Wildhammer dwarves: that bit of coast next on the far side of arathi highlands>Dark Iron Dwarves: Actually i think they are making BRD a full on zone aren't they? That'd be perfect for this but obviously you'd need some sectioned off area for low level>Kul'Tiran's: I'm sure their are some islands you can throw them at..... hell do something in Dustwallow>Gilneas: Obviousetc etc
>>747603423The game is free with the sub retard, they'll still play it, they just won't play the new race
>porn-addicted incels won't play ugly racesWhoa, shocking
>>747603539actually it's foids
>going to inevitably just be the same "everyone rushes to max level to raidlog and afk in cities all day, while filled with gold spammers and botters"Hard pass
>Asmongold likes it>Sodapoppin likes it>Swifty likes it>Reckful likes it>Athene likes it>Preach likes it>Bellular likes it>Towelliee likes it>Bajheera likes it>Kripparrian likes it>Xaryu likes it>Pikaboo likes it>Venruki likes it>Maximum likes it>Naowh likes it>Gingi likes it>Cdew likes it>Nobbel87 likes it>MadSeasonShow likes it>Kungen likes itYea we fucking won.
>>747603628And what of Poob?
>>747603585Assuming the 1000 new quests is legit there'll at least be something new to do, the new zones around probably 40-50 each (least i think that's about normal?) and i doubt the expanded zones make up all the rest so some zones are probably completely different.
>>747598725Prot paladin doesn't come online until at least level 21 when you dump everything into holy for consecration, and even then you run into massive mana problems by using consecration and seals because there's no good caster plate you can wear until raids
>>747603628asmongold doesn't like it
>>747603628tell me more about this. where can i see some of these?
>>747603202>ok so just add high elves to alliance and blood elves to horde>perfect opportunity to explore the divide and the process of blood elves ending up in the horde>can expand on the conflict of both elf factions>NO DUDE NO HEAR ME OUT HOW ABOUT BLUE ELVES LOLyou don't hate blizzard enoughhard pass for me
>>747603628>Asmongold likes itStopped reading since you're lying
>>747603628And hopefully these fags all roll PvP so they can screech when they get camped
How're Cat Druids and DPS Shammies looking
>>747603628>all these paid shills like itlol
>>747603513Elves are exotic
>>747603843There only one server retard.
>No realms>No regional containmentOh, so this is just made to milk money from terminally mazed wowbucks AND spic/chink gold sellers. Excellent. Enjoy your turd, classicbros.
>>747603945How many layers though?
>>747604007So no different than WoW has always been?
>>747604207no clue
>>747604007it has new raids and dungeons and zones and TBC classic was already a megaserver for 3 years now with 0 issues.go away outrage merchant
>>747604207be prepared for the never ending wave of "INV LAYER PLS" spam
>>747604375>with 0 issues.
>>747585192this screenshot literally fucking looks like retail. nothing about this is even remotely evocative of the classic world of warcraft world aesthetically or substantively.
>warriors and mages are king shit in the game (only in pve and very specific 40 man setups with specific buffs n shit)>how about we gut and rape them and add rogue, which isn't even good, into the shitter too, rather than just buffing other classes or nerfing them slightly>also paladin and druid are GOD nowSomeone needs to gut the entire wow dev team immediately.
>>747604534Paladin is the protag class, eat shit.
>>747604534they just went full pserver on that shit, they usually do the same as well KEK
>>747603628>Reckful likes itbro...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onN-UBUmKDs>Dalaran as a lvl 30 dungeon>It's just retail Dalaran with some fucking elementals walking around>anti-soul gas everywhereIt looks like complete dogshit, it's literally NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN level of competence, it looks worse than turtle, worse than SoD
>>747604534Blizzard balance has always been about equity and not equality, it's always these shifts where the last place gets buffed to be at the top and the cycle keeps repeating until everyone takes their turn as #1.
>>747601096>Is there a toggle for the $30 race?nop. your only choice is not to play
>>747604534the retranny dev team has a hateboner against rogue for some reason like >>747601301 saidprobably because the class is too atavistic and androcentric(next to warrior)
>>747604875any groups without the screaming children's entertainer?
>>747604920you made those words up
>>747604967that's all wow streamers so no sorry
Just remake the game. Actually don't, they'd make it worse.
>>747604967Who else do you think would be in there?
>>747603628>paid shills eat shit for their masterswow! what else?
>>747605003all words are made up by someone
>>747584771>enh shaman still cant use two handerswhat the fuck is wrong with blizzard
>>747604749Hey, you in the dress standing at the back of the raid, we need rebuffing
>>747605003ctrl + t, type the word you are confused bythis will expand your vocabulary and help you learn english better, foreigner
>>747604534>add rogue, which isn't even goodkek you slimy fuck
>>747604502thats because the HD models are turned off you can turn em off
>>747605240can turn fog off thankfully rest looks good
Most everything is very basic and fine (aside from the new race which just came out of nowhere and doesn't fit AT ALL), everything else is very predictable and expected.The old zones should not be modified in any way (aside from the areas that were clearly unfinished), just add the new areas, and then add the Ogrimmar gladiatorial arena, add the Azshara Battleground.Either go all the way or not. Keep the game as is and add some small finishing touches, or just build up every zone from the ground up with environmental factors and new modern mechanics. They added flowing water... but the current doesn't affect you. Either don't change it or go all the way.
>>747605287the coomer is retarded?? how did that happen???
>>747605389>fog off>global illumination on>render distance maxed>environment and terrain shadows onWe're going home
>>747605240>this 2003 game needs more anti-soul gas
>>747605240>take a game from 2004>add fog>???>profit
>>747594393>barbershopThey do and it come with the genderchange option.It's literally not classic+ it's retail-
>>747588578There are no modern character animations, they removed them.
>>747605646its appropriate for spooky zones
>>747604875There are 9 new dungeons >hall of thanes (where Magni spent a few expansions as a paper weight)>Ruins of Lordaeron (I guess this is just the surface of undercity?)>Excavation site (No idea where this is supposed to be it's 24-29 so a couple places it could be, my bets in Stonetalon mtns)>City of Dalaran >The Drowned City (level 35-40) the ruins in ashenvale would fit but i'm pretty sure the furbolg area there is the new raid, could be a troll city in the Riverglades?>Krol'dok stronghold: Oh this is in the riverglades.....>Alcaz island: Dustwallow marsh of course>Blackmaw hold: Ashenvale>Terrace of the makers: Un'goro craterSo 2 dungeons that can be a surprise i guess.
>>747594393>transmog is greatBut you see it goes again basic mmorpg logic that you should actually know when you look at someone the kind of level of person you're dealing with.
>>747605675it should be ground level only fog then. thats just night time at a port city fog
>>747605465>>747605646you can turn fog off
>>747605695Excavation site with that level range is probably going to be Bael Modan given that bad shit is apparently under there
>>747605810its a zone literally cursed to be spooky, it should be foggy
>Completely remove tanking talents from enhance shaman>Except a 4th tier talent that makes you generate more threatMysterious
It's sad that they can't create original WoW looking assets anymore.MY laptop can run the original WoW perfectly, it cannot run a single modern game because of how BADLY optimised modern games are. And we just don't have the tools anymore to make games like that.
>>747605927>Bael Modanthat was supposed to be an entire zone before they shifted focus to making raids. now its being downgraded to dungeon. grim
>>747605974yeah they're adding tanking shamans later
>>747605695These are all boring and uninspired, except lordaeron and dalaran, but I've seen the gameplay footage and it looks considerably worse than anything SoD added
>>747605927>>747606019Looked around a bit and it's apparently over whelgars excavation in the wetlands. The drowned city is apparently in Strangelthorn
>>747605806that's not "basic mmorpg logic" that's someone's retarded logic being projected onto the game
>>747606154He's right though, gear is identity. Transmog is for trannies.
>>747605986you're the cancer killing WoWWoW is graphically stuck in the 200Xs and it suffers for it
>>747606212>gear is identityEveryone uses cosmeticsAre you going to give up using cosmetics to have some retarded visual-level correlation? No? But you insist everyone else does? That's fucking stupid.
>>747606147Also the Barrow Deeps are a Night Elf Prison that apparently has 3 entrances so is probably pretty huge.
>>747606154Transmog is not up for debate among people who actually care about WoW. If you're, you know, a low IQ idiot and you wear diapers and eat paste... fine, like yeah you can like transmog, it is what it is.But it actually matters that you know what items look like, I mean this isn't just basic mmorpg, it's mostly basic game logic, you can't make your specific pistol look like a rocket launcher in a shooter game. So. "But there's not enough variety" then add more items.
>>747605971learn to read, dumb little nigger. thats not spooky fog. thats just normal fog. spooky fog should be heavy and cling to the ground so you can see your spooky surrounds clearly but anything could come out of it in your immediate vicinity clearly they just toggled a boiler plate fog effect on and called it a day
>>747606214Yeah, this perfectly artistically cohesive, stylised 20 year old game that still looks good to this day needs to be ported to UE5 and bloated to 150 gigs filesize and a 32gb ram requirement because uhhhhhh
>>747602913to be fair goblin was around 6% on turtlewow
Thoughts?
>>747606412>that still looks good to this dayPure cope.
>>747606304>Everyone uses cosmeticsIn Retail. This isn't Retail, this isn't for Retail players, you animal.
>>747586342What's wrong with this?
>>747606214Very strange reply. I said it's sad that they can't make original WoW assets anymore. IT's kind of a problem that you have these random modern looking assets mixing.And no, it doesn't look better.WoW more than any other mmorpg has a timeless look. To this day it still looks better than ANY other mmorpg. Nothing has beat it, it's a perfect cartoony yet serious crunchy great looking and runs so well.If you want new graphics, make a new game.
>>747606478>look mom i'm trolling on 4chinz xDD
>>747601027Wont streamers play pussy pve.
>>747606462Is there a way to know who is using a controller beforehand so I know who to exclude from my party
>>747603628More reasons for me to dislike it
>>747606534>This isn't RetailIt's Retail 2.0 on the Retail Engine using Retail UI and Retail Controls
>>747606478He's right, the Retail art style is pure aesthetic dogshit
>>747599317No
>>747606579just ask them if they support trump or not
In other news what other races does one think will be out next?
>>747606579weird circular turning and readjusting in place multiple times, rather than just facing a direction instantly or just A or D turning
>>747606598Then its dead on arrival because nobody wants or cares about retail
>>747606535Mostly just a question of why are they blue. Otherwise they aren't too different from High Elves.
>>747602913Elf players should be castrated and disembowelled including (You)
>>747606537>WoW more than any other mmorpg has a timeless look. Bullshit. WoW has aged like milk due as a result of 3D graphical improvements. This is just your lack of standards speaking.
>>747606643Red elves
>>747606665>Otherwise they aren't too different from High Elves.Except the entire lore and backstory
you can turn off the HD graphics and go back to vanillaand if you hate classic+ you can just... play vanilladoomjeets are kvetching at clouds
>>747606643Uhhh, have they done underground elves yet? Maybe lava elves? Rock elves? Not rock as in the stone but like rock and roll elves.They're all being tossed up in the Blizzard creativity meetings.
>>747606643Hard to say since they can just make shit up whenever desu.
>>747606665they explained it a couple hours ago, please don't only get your info from 4chan
>>747606579oh no they will have trouble *checks notes* pressing the three button rotation compared to the keyboard warriors, classic wow is just soooo difficult
>>747606691>Graphical improvementsYou just don't get it. Honestly, I blush for you. Have all the super detailed graphics you want. It doesn't establish what is appealing to the eye, what is pleasant and what works for the material.
>>747606691SAAARR DO NOT REDEEM THE OLD GRAPHICSSSAAAAAR YOU MUST BUY UE5 YOU MUST BUY WINDOWS 11 IT IS BETTER SAAAR WE CAN TRACK YOU SAAAR
>>747606784ah, there it is/kick
>>747606736I mean they are presumably a group of elves kicked out of NE society for refusing to give up magic but they didn't side with Azhara and instead went with Air elementals instead of just fucking off in general. Their origin is the same as HE they just haven't done anything in the last few thousand years. Ostensibly even with a small base population they'd make more sense than post third war BE in terms of how many of them there are. It's still an asspull but one that leads to my biggest question being why are they blue.
>>747606691based fifabro
>>747601027>one megaserver>there is now no excuse to grief streamersThis is going to be epic
>>747605806>can be toggled offDid you miss that part of the notes or something?
>>747606845funny given that low graphical fidelity is something jeets support
>>747606763I don't feel like watching blizzcon enough to find that reason so what is it? Are they all into auto-erotic asyphixiation?
>>747607010they are part of the newest Darkmoon Faire attraction, the Blue Elf Troupe
>>747605806What, do you want to see their talents too? Their inventory and buttonmapping as well? And let's face it, 95% of you shitters are bad at PvP to begin with so you're likely going to get your ass beat regardless
>Warrior raped and gapedGuess I'm playing 'lock until I get bored after hitting 60.
>>747607109>What, do you want to see their talents too?obviously yes. as a baseline. talents can tell a lot about the quality of person
>>747606976oooh boy, great so people can have a different version of reality, in a mmorpg, ooh very nice.Always the classic "I mean you don't even have to use it, like, it's just a new option, visually, like there's a toggle, girlfriend, *scoffs* hehehehe, sooo what's the problem hehehehe"Every remaster of a game (which is what this is).Don't talk to me. Don't whisper me, don't ask me for trade. Don't group with me.
I'll check in on this shit in a couple years. I wouldn't mind revisiting WoW sometime but this looks like a retail-ified version of classic with some decent ideas sprinkled here and there.
>>747606929jokes on you, im party leader bitch, im kicking YOU and your gay little butt buddy friend
>>747605240this is such a meme
What did the High Elves do to the devs?Literally the entire 'super special awesome faggot supreme' lore they are making to make these a neutral faction... LITERALLY IS THE EXACT SAME LORE YOU CAN DO FOR BLOOD/HIGH ELVES."We need to use this new power to keep ourselves alive" for Horde vs "We need to keep to traditions and seek our old allies to secure a cure for our thirst for mana"
>>747603126not every paladin needs kings. and no, no one is going to care about 5% crit for a healer, no one will notice.
>>747605905>I AM TOOGGLING
>>747607267High elves are the closest thing to asian women, and the devs hate WMAF.
>>747607267The optimist in me says that they want to do HE but the higher ups realize the writers aren't up for not fucking up their lore so they are just doing HE without the baggage of expectations.
>>747606943Than they should have at least used the NE model, or, made a new model, even if it's giga-lazy like the Nightborne. They are literally a palette swap of BEs with some MLP markings for customization.
>>747607267they needed an elf and new zone and werent ready to do blood elves again because they couldnt be neutral. but the important is that horde HAD to have an elf at release or the server balance would be heavily weighted in favor of alliance
>>747607109What does that have to do with transmog? You can't change the way equipment looks to a totally different piece of equipment, that's a bad idea. It's insane, if you think otherwise there's no point in talking, it is a very fundamental brain difference. It's absurd.No one would ever come up with this idea if they were smart. If they were creative or cared. You don't want too many people looking the same? Make more equipment.
transmog is cool because it gives another reason to do random content. on twow i'd farm dungeons for armor or weapons. most people on twow at least used it to look pretty normal, or have a theme. i guess modern retail wow players will likely make it fruity gay
>>747607396Elves get a new zone anyway in the mountains betweeen Feralas and Mulgore, the island starter zone seems to just be panda island 2.0
>>747606462Serves the dual purpose of letting HC naxx streamers beat HC naxx from their couch while also letting /v/ posters pretend they'll kick people from the groups they're too socially anxious to actually make
>>747607210>NOOOOO the way I like it is the only correct way REEEEEAlways the classic as well. And it's not like you're being forced to play it, though we know you still will.>Don't talk to me. Don't whisper me, don't ask me for trade. Don't group with me.Don't intend to. Nobody wants to play with a whiny wet blanket bitch anyhow.
So what do the actual classic wow players think of this all?
if youre not going tailor to sell blackweave pants and top and bags, you're insane and wasting your timecan go miner to sell thorium as wellnothing else is going to make any money
>>747607485I'm not playing this, are you kidding? I haven't played wow since... Cataclysm. And will continue not to play it. It's infested with you people now.
>>747607331Literally the entire point of holy paladin is using crits to get mana backYes people will notice you have lower crit rate and no guaranteed crits because you'll run out of mana retard
Depends on if I want to roll gnome for engineering or not. Otherwise mining and blacksmithing for a paladin
>>747607396Literally just add BEs then. And since this is before TBC, they could make the BE starting zone more interesting by having Eversong besides that starting 1-5 island be a Scourge shithole with quests focusing on taking it back, which would work in to the TBC lore of half the woods being restored.
>>747607508From what Ive seen in forums and social media, they largely are mocking the blue elves like everyone else but seem somewhat excited. Cautious but there definitely is excitement from what I can see.
>>747607010and I don't feel like spoonfeeding you, look it up or shut up
>>747607358>Elves are asian women>Pale women with platinum blonde hair and blue/green eyes and anglo/aryan features and culture/histories are asianfuck off Shang
>everyone calling this Retail-So what exactly would you have them do differently then, you know to make it Classic+ and not Retail-?
>>747600964Literally just make all Classic+ races (as in not the original 8) an added fee, and hint at additional ones coming like ogres.
>>747607508Worse than what Epoch could have been if any of them knew how to code. I know it will be shit because Blizzard won't do anything to limit bots and RMT
>>747607396>or the server balance would be heavily weighted in favor of allianceYeah like in Classic right? Oh wait, it's actually the opposite
>>747607681nobody is calling it that except private troonies mad about turtle
>>747607592>Literally the entire point of holy paladin is using crits to get mana backmana efficiency is pretty much irrelevant in classic wow. the game is so solved bosses die like 5 minutes before a healer can go oom.
>>747607358this is closer to a nerubian, actually
>>747607560Then what the fuck are you doing here, spending your free time whining about it then? Least that means one less gray parsing shitter to have to carry.
>>747607681Step 1. Don't add a completely new race of blue elfs from Retail/a disney movie
>>747607681Not making it a secondary branch of retail down to the ugly WoD models, rainbow colored OC donutsteel elf races, achievements, etc.
>>747600964>currently playingDifferent game, also would include their zone. Speaking of which, if you don't buy Skyborne can you go to their zone?
>>747607681TBC except you go to Gilneas and Grim Batol and you can't fly.
>>747607681i would make small tweaks to the talent trees not totally rework the healer hybrids into hero classes. druid, shaman, paladin are basically retail classes at this point.
>>747607681Are the $30 OC donut steel elves necessary? Why not just add, I dunno, High Elves or something?
>>747607681They added a retail race to the game. That's the big thing that stands out, they added more retail looking UI (apparently) Of course Classic WoW itself already destroyed the original WoW UI. So.What Blizzard should have done is either finished the original game (it's an unfinished game, but very close to being finished) or remake the game. Changing the original zones is a death sentence because it's not Classic Plus, it's Classic Different. That's an issue for sure, because it doesn't feel like a faithful continuation of the original game.
>Discipline Priests don't look like smiting gods as they were in twowSo basically I'm just gonna not play it (WoW Forever!!)
>>747607881thankfully spriest looks better than ever. even VE got a buff
>>747607817kill yourself immigrant
>>747607873>blizzard>add high elves
>>747589868they were going to have phasing anyway, that has nothing to do with the introduction of "megarealms", does it retard?
>>747585192you can see the cameltoe
>>747607972>they were going to have phasing anywaywhich is bad and antithetical to MMOs.
>>747607948Probably whiter than you, Ranjesh. Or Paco. I don't know, you browns all look the same.
are you going to play PVE, PVP, RP or RP PVP?
>>747607681Just launch TurtleWoW's content up to the latest patch and go from there, except don't because Blizz would just ruin it anyway
>>747608038The nu-mmorpg audience has been brainwashed, it's too late to explain to them.
>>747607681It's actually pretty funny because before all of this was announced, many people were saying that nobody even knows what they want from Classic+ and turns out they were right.
I haven't played in ages, since when does creating an account require a fucking phone number?
>>747608038>>747608118I agree that phasing is le badI was just calling you out for being a fart-sniffing retard
>>747607972>putting everyone ona mega realm and having 20 phases in each zone has ntohing to do with phasesI noticed that with games like wow and skyrim that talking with the fanboys is like pulling teethe because they are pants on head retarded.
>>747607638the point is that it needs to be a neutral race or else theyd need to add two new races instead of one. and they dont have the creativity for that
>>747589429knowing blizz devs, the tooltip is probably just an rough estimate.the actual chance would have bad luck protection to significantly increase the proc chance for a short while every time it fails, resetting after a success.i imagine the real ppm would feel like one ambush every 2-3 backstabs, with a small chance for more or less.
I'm finna camp all the sheltered PvE sissies with war mode turned off, tagging their mobs and mocking them. (I'll have near-bis dungeon blues for my level)
>>747608052continue playing the brown MMOi've moved to whiter shores
>>747608162Yes, because they already had phasing in classic wow. The "announcement" has nothing to do with phasing, which was 100% going to be in regardless. Does that make sense, retard?
>>747607681>>747607681The only thing people are legit not vibing with is Skyborne. a 30 dollar neutral race. The entire point should be doubling down on faction fighting, especially if we are going in a different direction story-wise. A neutral race fucks that over. Skyborne for Alliance and X for Horde would have been fine even at 30 dollars. The problem is faction imbalance and people want a pretty race so you either have to give the Horde Blood Elves, or bad human
wonder if all of the % chance abilities are actually % change or if theyll have nu-wow ppm
"AND SO THE SKY ELVES, WHO ARE TOTALLY BETTER VERSIONS OF THE HIGH ELVES AND BLOOD ELVES, btwimtrans FLEW AROUND ON MAGIC ISLANDS WE NEVER VISITED BECAUSE WE NEVER WENT THERE.btwimtrans AND SO THEY HAD THE PROBLEMS AND COULD JOIN EITHER THE ALLIANCE OR HORDE BECAUSE RAISENS imtrans AND SO THE COULD HELP THE AZEROTH REALIZE IT'S PRONOUNS AND HOLD MASSIVE DRAG QUEEN STORY HOURS btwimtrans AND WE MAKE BAJILLIONS OF DOLLARS! THANK GAHD THAT GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION AND BLACKMAIL KEEPS ME EMPLOYED OR I WOULD HANG MYSELF"-The WoW Forever writing staff after having locked Metzin in the basement.
>>747608080I didn't play Turtle WoW but it sure looked way better and way more faithful to the game than WoW forever does, which is super sad.So much hinges on the new race. It's so unspeakably bad. A dual-faction race? And it's just space elves, it's gross, it doesn't fit at all, it's not a small thing it's a whole race that just doesn't fit.Also Turtle WoW looked like it had more interesting dungeons and areas, I liked the area above Stormwind.
>>747601027They showed that there are different servers for PVE, PVP and RP though.
>>747607645I went to go look at the transcript of the show and it is in fact an auto-erotic asphyxiation thing. You could have just said so.
>>747608210it's a sharded megarealm, faction balance doesn't matter anymore
Trust me as a "Classic+" guy wanting news daily for months about this ever since the Turtle WoW shutdown, I am appalled They fumbledAnd they keep fumbling
>>747602913Why the fuck are elves and humans so popular? The most boring races.
>>747603539I love undead without jaw tho
>>747608315This except the exact opposite and I'm whiter than you
>>747608281bloo elves were metzen's ideahe either needs to either cut down on the coke or needs more, not sure which
>>747608052>>747607948It's the bi-threadly Anonymous White-off! Which anon will claim they are whiter than the other anon, even though neither will post proof!? Which one is really white? One? Both!? Neither!??! Would it even matter as both are likely mentally retarded anyway!????!!! Round 2 begiiiiiiiinnnn!!!! *ding ding ding*
Now that you've all accepted WoW is dead. My Avatar MMORPG is coming soon.
>>747608163>the creativityits just streamlining development process. Rather than 2 new races they can save have the development by just giving each faction the same race.Also they are massive contrarians and dont want to do the obvious choice they want something completely new that no one thought of. Artistic types tend to over value novelty.
>>747608205>scamming people for gift cards>white shoresKek you'll have to try harder than that, Ranjesh
>>747608427Ok what is your shopping cart return rate if you are so white.
>>747608447I'm so white i find mild salsa a bit much when i eat it.
>>747608447I'm considerably whiter than everyone ITT and my name is José.
You think you want High Elves but you don't
>>747608382I play as a human because I want to self-insert into a fantasy world
>>747608447I'm the brownest nigger ITT and my name is Ólafur.
>>747608206The announcement confirms phasing which is antithetical to MMOs.Thats it, thats the statement. Continue seething over this simple fact.
>>747605240Anti sovl gas
>>747600724And yet most PvP-enabled realms are 99% Horde and 1% retards that haven't realized yet. Curious.
>>747589938what would be infinitely better is a preorder collector's edition for each class, with several made-to-order choices of class specific 13 inch statues.i would like one of vanessa van cleef dressed in her uncrowned garb. edwin is also fine, if people care about old ladies still getting upset over hot young women existing.or perhaps whitemane and her champion.or perhaps even hogger.each class' collectors ed would get some cool flair for that class in the game. maybe make it a pet, or an armour accent, a special emote, i dunno.
>>747608557>self-insert fagsShould've known.
>>747608469oh so a blue elf is just brimming with creativity?
>>747608163Luckily for them, there was a solution to that too, turn their eyes blue, lighten their skin, and call them High Elves. That's still way less work.
>>747600724It's 1 whole megaserver where you can have only a limited amount of people show, faction balance doesn't matter anymore
>>747608551I don't. I don't want any new races. "WoW Classic" is too fickle to add something like that, it's too late to try and update the game, they waited too long.
>>747608557>>747608661I self insert as an evil orc rapist doe
>>747608661I'm sorry you're a furry
HEY HOW IS ARCANE MAGE?? NEED TO GET MY MAGIC LIBIDO UP AND ELEMENTAL MAGIC DOESNT MAKE ME TUMESCENT
I had a much better talk about this game in a youtube live stream chatbox today. Just so you know. Just so you know how low you have fallen /v/.
>>747603786he said he's coming back and remaking his Olympus guild
>>747608750Are you an orc IRL
>>747608754I mean, dwarves have beards to the point that it could be called fur but aren't you exaggerating a bit?
>>747608672Of course, some very creative people created a very creative totally lore-friendly backstory that is totally creatively unique and hand-created to fit right in with your (boring) classic WoW.
Transmog is okay.Phasing is okay.>m-muh traditional MMO valuesYou never played MMO or cared about them, fuck off.
1. Non-occupied Blizzard would have done Ogres / Furbolgs and easily justified as some kind of result of a Horde / Alliance split along Ashenvale with the Ogres being Venture company goons from a subjugated tribe who end up revolting and joining the Horde instead and Furbolgs who are from a threatened tribe on the warfront who must join the Alliance to defend their home alongside the Night Elves2. This isn't Classic World of Warcraft3. They should have hired fan talent instead of suing it in courtperiod
>>747608382Holds true in TurtleWow as well. This image is OctoWoW but it matches race populations pretty close to Turtle. To give an example of what closer to classic populations would be like.Humans being 24% surprised me.
>>747608864You sure told me.
>>747608864>Transmog is okay.no>Phasing is okay.no
>>747608061RP for sure. there's gonna be so much loremaster content with all the new quests and factions etc, i'm so beyond going tunnel vision on the most efficient methods, so will just be questing, chilling, and RP means more likely to come across silly little interactions in the world like at Camps. also at the point in my life i'd rather play with some RP shitters even if dungeons/raids take longer, than tryhard raider,io apes.
>>747608864sit down
>>747608921He was actually talking to me, sweatie.
>>747608840I've got the build of one
>>747608483I have never gone to a store in person that's for the maids
>>747608976based
>>747608985Ah so you mean "white" white wink-wink so to speak as I look away and drink my pint
>>747608921>>747608928>>747608937>replies: 3>arguments: 0
>>747608672>furblogsalready in the game, not novel.>ogresalready in the game, not novel.>broken draenialready in the game, not novel.>murlocsalready in the game, not novel.>blue elvesThere are no blue elves in the game. Totally a novel creation of the classic teams creativity.>but they are just high elves with a blue coat of paint!nono see they may seem like high elves but actually... they are ... they are blue! totally novel. that will be 30$ please.
It's amazing how all this waiting and there's nothing to talk about. The biggest thing is sky elves whheeeeeez.
>>747608445Blood Elves atleast make some semblance of sense with how they built the lore and why they partnered with the Horde due to the Forsaken being lead by one of it's former generals who sent them support while they found out the Alliance formed bonds with what is essentially a bunch of pricks they left behind 5000 years ago.I agree with the issue of 'Pretty faction among the monsters ruined the Horde' aesthetic, but it would have been interesting as a Neutral faction to have what is the best plot explanation for Blood vs High Elves and Quel'thalas problems for Lor't'hemar to deal with as they are dealing with Prince Kael'thas absence and how they could rework TBC shitty plot idea of 'Turn him evil for no reason' Sky Elves feel like if a private server wanted to make a new playable faction and released recolored Blood Elves as an option with new stats because they couldn't model anything else. Except every private server who did custom races NEVER did that and it's BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT THEMSELVES DOING THAT OPTION.
>>747609079Holy shit you killed them dude.
>>747609138I think beta opens up Thursday
>>747609079You never made any arguments. You're the one presenting new crazy ideas.
>>747609079>DEBATE M- *ACK!*
>>747608937yeah well i have a dark age of camelot account from 2002 and i say transmog is not only fine, but a good thing. gets people doing content, farming stuff they wouldnt normally farm, improving the economy, and is just another fun thing to do. so suck my ballsphasing isnt okay though i dont agree with that
The callous addition of safe crowd pleasing "Sky Elves" (lmfao lol wat lol haha pinch me 2 wake me up [cant wake up] wake me up inside [cant wake up] wake me up inside [save me]) in their apparently hardcore ode to what "Classic+" players want from all these server shutdowns they've initiated against very popular fan projects says it all:They don't get it... !Worse, they just don't WANT to "get it" even when they understand it enough to "get it".
>>747609138>holy shit they took out all these amazingly strong druid talents>DRUIDS ARE RUINED>oh wait nvm they made all those talents baseline, druids are OP god class now, lol.druids are so strong it makes me feel guilty for picking them for PvP. its like turtle wow levels of game balance, which was completely aids btw.
>>747609169And there will still be nothing to talk about.I feel like maybe newer people to WoW might be into this more. Which is fine.20 years! How long are they gonna drag this game out. I would have loved for them to do something crazy, do something truly new. But WoW Forever does too little and too much at the same time. It's not interestingly different but also with horrible horrific additions/changes.But that's to be expected.I'm so ashamed that I had 0.9% hope for something modern Blizzard was doing,. I feel ashamed I let myself get that hyped up.
>>747608382>i need to be a special snowflake race to be interestingYour type has been mocked since the inception of trpgs, and you will continue to be mocked.
>>747609376I have a The Forest's Edge account from '99 and I dont even know what a transmog is
>>747609150>neutral elves>long ass 1-20 questline in quelthalas where you decide if you want to be a high elf remnant or a blood elf then join the alliance/horde respectivelywe could've had kino of the highest order, but instead got slop of the highest calliber
>>747609079you want an argument?you are a hapless retailhog shillpiggy
>>747609449the fuck is this build
>>747609449>not taking moonkin so you can get one instant cast spell every 3 minutesfull retard
>>747609589slop of the trooniest caliber*
>>747609079>"eating shit is good">"no it isnt">"wow thats not even an argument, i win!"
>>747609606standard balance/resto pvp build, wow forever edition>>747609619funny
>>747609546damn, beat me.transmog is basically you can make a weapon or armor's appearance look like something else if you have it. typically limited to weapons/armor of that type, so a hammer could only be made to look like another hammer. i'm all for it because it just gets that much more people doing content and provides even more longevity. and from my experience on turtlewow, most people used it in either cool or thematic ways. only complaint i see valid is pvp people who want to know exactly what the opponent has, which there are two points for1) you can turn off everyons transmog if you want2) wow pvp is mad fucking gay so who cares
>>747609706dont forget to load up on mp/5 items and spirit lmao
>>747609446To be fair, they have been far from crowd pleasing if /v/, R*ddit, Twatter, the WoW Classic forums, the WoW *retail* forums, and WoW Forever forums, are anything to go by.
>>747609589Nah Blood Elves are shit and should stay as enemies. Should introduce the Forsaken Elves instead.
>no realmsINVITE OFF LAYER 57!
>>747609884I'm okay with that, too
>>747609794>>747609619>>747609606>you are now aware many posters here dont actually know anything about vanilla/classicretail andies or just here to hate on wow?>take moonkin form in pvplol
>>747596827druids were a mistake.
>>747609449where do you see the new baseline skills added or the changes they did to the skills?
>>747598906absolute retard who doesnt play wow
>>747609989you think the balance is anything like vanilla/classic? even the itemization is different. this isnt even classic in NAME
>>747609079I've seen players in WoW Classic Hardcore die unfairly because of the Phasing layering garbage.It's just nonsense. A realm should be what it is. With the players that it has.It actually is very similar to modern matchmaking. In olden times you'd have private servers to paly your FPS game, and you've get to know certain people, and now it's just throw everyone in a blender.
>>747609449>guys druids are so strong!>meets a caster>dies
Blizzard has been creatively and morally bankrupt for well over a decade. Everybody with any kind of talent or dignity has long since left.They're like a jeet soaking in the shit holy river and refusing to die while bloated cadavers float by. Whatever he produces, passes through his rectum and his entire existence is focused on trying to make things unbearable for others.
>>747596827>feral gets mangle at level 25only bear mangle was added which just means druid tank rotation got more complex along with lacerate You might be too retarded to even know what the fuck you're reading
