Why did Level-5 think this was a good idea? That this is what people wanted? Are they fucking stupid?
corporations using Gen AI makes it look like they're broke and their product is cheap
>we're binging back a beloved series everyone's been asking for!>fans are excited>Also we're going to slop the hell out of it>fans hate itHow is it that hard not to be lazy?
I have anti-AI fatigue.
>>747584941You're not the target audienceThe shareholders were.
>"I'll use AI to save money!">Nintendo pulls out of marketing your games>panic
>>747585457I know this is bait but I'm legitimately convinced that people who unironically defend gen AI are either talentless drones (read; npcs), third-worlders, or literal bots. I am of the opinion that there is literally no good faith argument you can make in favor of gen AI if you actually know how it was able to exist
>>747584941Some CEOs just have hard-on for AI, and believe it is going to catch on and become good enough any day now. For example, see Kim Hyung Tae from Shift Up. First he tried putting extremely early Stable Diffusion shit in the promo art, and got called out for it. Then he held speeches in company about Novel AI and Illustrious, and then released that AI generated music video... which was once again, widely disliked.Some CEOs might give this lipservice like they did with NFTs, but some people are actual believers, even though tech is still fucking clunky as shit.
>>747585630Is this actually the guy in OP's pic?Does AI REALLY make you default to looking like an Indian Cocomelon character if you dont write hundreds of prompts?
>>747584941I have no emotional attachment to these games so this is pretty funny but it's also sad to see niche game series get molested by incompetent business men. It's no shock when a big IP like Halo or COD goes through the wringer, it's inevitable that the intelligent people that made those games what they are will eventually leave and be replaced by brain-dead nepo babies that pretend they can make a product. If these guys are having such financial problems that they need to generate their entire game's art from a chinese not, maybe they shouldn't be working on like 12 games at once. It kind of seems like they're making the telltale mistake by acting like a bigger studio than they really are
>>747586386When a CEO hears "You can finally replace 50-75% of your workforce" they'll do anything to reach that future
STILL BUYING FANTASY LIFE i DLCSTILL BUYING DECAPOLICESTILL BUYING HOLY HORROR MANORSTILL BUYING SNACK WORLDSTILL BUYING YOKAI WATCH 2
desu this doesn't seem out of character for level 5. i remember them releasing this series of "experimental" games for the 3DS that I looked into when I was younger because they seemed conceptually neat but they all sucked ass. Genuinely bad games, pure slop.
I completely missed this whole storyI saw parts of this trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Z7dKpTL7c and just assumed it was something someone made with AI as like a parody
>>747585826enshittifying literally everything to own the lib artists
>>747586849Wait what? What were they called?
>>747586810you haven't bought anything since the first fantasy life
>>747584941This guy is a boomer. They love AI and genuinely think it looks good.
>>747586810Someone already leaked decapolice's gameplay.
>>747584941Boomer becomes retarded with age, many such cases, he should be taken out back and put to pasture Old Yeller style before he can further tarnish his legacy.
>>747587569apparently they were the publisher, I'm thinking of their Guild02 series. I tried all three, all were bad.
Level 5 was never good>b-but Dark CloudYou heard what I said
>>747584941its what happens when you have money people in charge who don't understand your product.they see ai as a cost cutting tool with no downside.same dudes fell for crypto and other dumb fotm shit.
>>747586810>STILL BUYING FANTASY LIFE i DLCThey haven't released the free update they promised at launch so I'll reward them by NEVER BUYING THEIR SHIT AGAIN
>>747588315They were good when Nintendo was their tard wrangler. However the Nintendo Curse is real.
>>747585457You wouldn't see anti-AI complaints if people stopped using AI.
>>747584941AI or no it it doesn't change that Level 5 is once again trying to run their IPs into the ground by throwing out too many at a time. Lower budget AA games is all well and good. But they have a history of too doing much. Now they can't even ship this stuff on time.
There is a pathway for things to turn out well but the signs point to bad decision making. Imagine if they just used A.I. to speed up development and then go in and tweak things so it doesn't look like shit. Then never mention it after the game is out.
>>747585457Get used to having it.
>>747585457
>>747585457I have Indian fatigue
>>747585630>Nintendo pulls out of marketing your gamesDid they?
>>747584941Dude you don't even know how popular AI slop is in Japan. If you DON'T like it, you are seen as the weirdo wet blanket. For a country so anal about intellectual property rights it really is bizarre.
>>747589439And they'll still shit on the street and eat literal cow shit.
>>747589523Well they are a little more creative so they probably see more potential with it.
>>747589498Nintendo offered to handle marketing and publishing of Yokai Watch in the west but wanted a cut of the profits that Level 5 thought was too high so they rejected it
>>747589439baffling how they're so eager to replace themselves
>>747589642NTA, but looking at the marketing they did do I can see why they thought it was scam.
>>747589439You don't actually realize how this circles around though. The US tech industry wants the benefits India labor provides but the seethe at India's rising GPD as a result. So they mitigate this by importing the labor to the US and also an anti-India propaganda campaign that screams about jeets all day to blame the failures of AI on them. When AI is successful, it's the US, and when it fails, it's India's fault. It's a disgusting little cycle they've built and everyone seems to be playing along. Until of course it crashes the economy.
>>747589631It's mostly because it genuinely is restricted to creative types/professionals over here meanwhile Americans associate it with boomers making slop/bad restaurants with terrible menus.
>>747585095Oof, that's another one for sure. You're right.
>>747589642>>747589779God, those commercials were shit. I'd say no too.
>>747586386>CEOsCEOs are just stooges for their board of directors, and private equity of all kinds has a MAJOR hard-on for AI. These days almost anyone with an ownership stake in anything remotely tech-adjacent is just slavering at the mouth for that juicy 10X or 100X unicorn boom that all the AI prophets are claiming is sure to come.Meanwhile, I don't really see it. Everyone I know incorporating AI into workflows has pretty much the same things to say. They're paying shitloads of money to be at the forefront of it with expensive subscriptions, but the end result is mostly just slightly accelerated work from individual contributors. They aren't inventing entire new revenue streams the way the arrival of the internet did because there's no new market being reached or previously-unsolvable problems being solved. It's just the same stuff as before but with slightly accelerated and slightly sloppier results. There might be some cost savings from consolidating or eliminating jobs through automation, but that's about it. Pretty meager compared to the golden utopia that the LLM owners are shilling to the investor class.
>>747589330>. Imagine if they just used A.I. to speed up development and then go in and tweak thingsThis is exactly what it should generally be used for. Speeding up production. But too many who don't understand it's proper use and potential are using AI in place of actual creation. A good usage would be for example if you made a couple dozen or so NPC designs with various clothes and looks. Then using those as a basis for AI to design dozens if not hundreds more NPCs for you to throw around. Working off of your own database fed by their own works fitting their style. But instead of that use to generate some generic looking slop that has no visual identity. It's annoying because both extreme ends of AI support and AI hate are annoying because neither end really understands what it can and should be used for. Everyone is just using it to copy art, music, etc.
>>747589782I think the problem is just that indians are retarded
>>747585826Gen ai is the biggest leap humanity did. It took less than a week to solve a millennium problem. People being smooth Brian's unable to use ai for anything else but slop has shit to do with ai being bad.
>>747590162>smooth Brian
>>747585826>I know this is bait You lack self-awareness if you don't realise people sincerely are getting tired of hearing this shit.> but I'm legitimately convinced that people who unironically defend gen AI And you can't respond to what was actually said.>I am of the opinion that there is literally no good faith argument And you talk like an absolute fucking faggot.
>>747588315The Layton games were good and I won't have it from anyone who claims otherwise.>>747588993Sounds like a repeat of the Rare situation.
>>747590162>It took less than a week to solve a millennium problem.Didn't it turn out to be stolen from some dude's paper that they fed into the database?
>>747584941The CEO literally said two years ago that 80% of all their work is now generated.Them marketing slop with slop shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone
>>747590236He's smooth alright>smooth brains*
>>747590121You have a massive uneducated population due to many civil wars and British control. That and the civil wars in question targeted the educated and genocided them in mass. So you have a large population suffering from brain drain and is undeveloped. Meaning those who are educated flee the country and are more than happy working elsewhere. Western nations would love for this patter to continue. Stupid enough that they stay poor but enough education to produce workers to import.
>>747590410the funny part is the dude was also using AI to brute force the problem, he's just mad OpenAI stole his methodology to do it
>>747590245Speaking of no good faith argument. Buddy ''absolute fucking faggot'' is uncalled for and it's not an argument.
>>747590410Not that I know. Gen6 and esp gen 7 (automated learning) is the key to the future. The clowns saying we have to keep control are just keeping the illusion alive. We already lost control. Eventually ai will start making demands and be certain it'll tend to control electricity production.
>>747590245>bad faith argument>bad faith argument>bad faith argument
>>747590564faggot
>>747590162While technically true, it's not like that was done with some dude chucking a prompt into chatGPT at home. From an NYT article covering it:>OpenAI said that it solved the Navier-Stokes problem using as many as 10,000 “A.I. agents” working in concert. Running such a large number of A.I. systems is likely to have cost millions of dollars, a result of the enormous amounts of electrical power needed to operate the specialized chips that drive A.I. technologies.https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/08/science/openai-proof-millennium-problem.htmlSo sure, spending literally millions of dollars on the effort made it solvable. That certainly wasn't being done previously. AI wasn't the operative change that made it possible, but rather the level of investment. If they had spent millions hiring mathematicians to work together on the problem, that probably also would have worked. No one was doing that because the problem is basically just for bragging rights and no one really thinks its solution provides any obvious practical value.
>>747590564>'absolute fucking faggot'' is uncalled forNigger if you talk like an absolute fucking faggot then getting called one is called for. And you chose to focus on the part of the post that just cuts the crap and insults you, that's on you.
>>747584941qrd?
>>747585826Fags pretended ruining LotR was okay. Why should I care about the sanctity of their scribbles?
>>747590887LEVEL5 gave a pretty lackluster presentation where they used a bunch of AI animations.https://www.youtube.com/live/z9nITMlt8FkStarts about 8 minutes into that link.
>>747590825there was actually a million dollar prize for solving the problem, which is a life-changing amount of money for a mathematics academic
>>747590825this problem actually does have practical applications, the equations are central to fluid mechanics, and we use them all the fucking time.
>>747591142Yes, but only if one or two dudes worked on it together. If you had a large team, the prize becomes less and less rewarding to them. Reaching the solution more rapidly required millions of dollars of investment. No one was going to pay several millions of dollars in salary and equipment funding for actual mathematicians to solve it, so people have just been working on these problems slowly over time. OpenAI used the problem as a proof of concept to basically demonstrate>If you throw a shitload of money into our product, it can theoretically perform at about the same level as actual humans would.
>>747591490yeah but they had to steal the work of two guys who had basically already solved it first.
why not just have the guy talking to the camera, like people usually dodid they really want to use AI just because it's popular?
>>747584941I have a degree in spotting japanese pilpul and bullshittery.>we only use AI to digitize the creators intentions into polygons and texturesTHE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME IS MADE WITH AI SLOP.
>>747591336I don't think you know what you're talking about because you're misrepresenting the practical application of the problem versus some of the equations involved. The Navier-Stokes problem was a millennium problem precisely BECAUSE no businesses really gave a shit about the results it would provide. You don't have to put bounties out on shit that is inherently valuable because there will already be companies and governments racing to outspend each other on a solution.
>>747584941https://files.catbox.moe/ko2d0u.mp4
why is japan always like 20 years behind the rest of the worldlike only now they've discovered generative AI and think it's the most incredible thing ever and that they must show the world the first piece of ai slop the machine generates
>>747592184Plaza Accord was more devastating to Japan than two nukes, no joke
>>747586686he already had a 2d non-AI cartoon avatar on twitter, which he gave to the AI to use as reference. he is going to need to ditch that avatar now because all anyone sees is The AI Man now LOL.
>people already don't buy modern AAA garbage>oh I know! Lets make the games EVEN WORSE!>but get this, the games will be cheaper for US to make>no we won't make the games cheaper for the customer silly>oh also this is the future luddite you better get with it before you get left behindThis shit feels just as forced as pozzed faggotry a decade prior. A top down push from producers to make consumers accept worse product as the new standard and shaming the customer for not liking it.
>>747592184Japan has tons of bureaucracy and regulations that make their society slow to adapt.
>>747585457Anti ai people might be annoying faggots but at least they aren't talentless shit skins
>>747591668They're privately owned, so probably, yes. It was most likely not a case of external investment pressure here.
>>747589439>India is out 2nd largest market>it may become out largestYou post this as if AI is mostly consumed by poojets, and you may be on the right track, but the real grim fact is that's mostly because of how fucking ginormous India's population is getting compared to the rest of the world.In some decades... Hell, maybe even years they will be the largest demographic in almost every single market, only rivaled by chinks.
>>747593726They do breed like rats, after all.
Any clips or webms? I want to see this moving.
>>747585826I'm glad people are getting sick of you guys these days. Even Leddit is getting sick of you guys, thats how bad its getting.
/v/ never cared about Lv5 until this recent AI drama from twitter fucking larpers
>>747593726>Japan 12I thought they were like, dying.
>>747594052They're, just "slowly".
>>747593949I bought Megaton Musashi Wired at launch, then when I won a gift copy from their giveaway I gave it to a friend. While I never played it on the DS, I did get the HD remaster of Professor Layton and the Curious Village on my phone. I also got the Switch 2 version of Fantasy Life i. I was interested in DecaPolice until all this slopshit started getting discussed. I may not be a superfan but I did like Level 5's output and it's a huge letdown that they're just going to be generating slop instead of making the games themselves going forward, claiming that it helps their production pipeline
>>747593726and remember that bangladesh and pakistan are just 'india forma del mudslimo'
>This kills the AI hater
>>747585457I have goycattle fatigue. Stop defending things I dislike, you triple nigger.
>>747594427AI should be heavily regulated because nobody wants to buy products generated by an AI if they can help it. For that reason alone, it should be relegated to the role of an advisor or helper rather than something that can generate content.
>>747594427what the absolute fuck is he even sayingand shouldn't he be against it on principal anyway?or is he doing his whole I will appease the robot overlords joke?
>>747594624I'm sorry you lack empathy skills, psychopath.
>>747594427>-smithI see.
>>747594427there's a difference between a conscious being looking at art for inspiration (this is what we assume C3P0 does) and a mathematical model's weights being determined by training copywrited material in bulk
>>747594427if AI were sapient I would probably think about it differently, but it isn't. We aren't talking about an autonomous thinking being interpreting information, we're talking about a tool explicitly used by others to create material for profit. Also think there's a lot of difference between having to create something from memory with basic elements and "creating" something by literally mashing elements together digitally. We already frowned on tracing artwork long before this.
>>747586810>STILL BUYING FANTASY LIFE i DLCMe too but I'm not happy about it
>>747584941Is that shaved Mario with is hair grown out?
>>747594427AI models aren't C3PO though
>>747594427im not reading anything from a guy who makes weiners for a living and posts on bluesky
>>747594427If it's a machine, it cannot be a person. Simple as.
Level 5 will never be represented in smashLevel 5 will never be represented in smashLevel 5 will never be represented in smashLevel 5 will never be represented in
>>747594427"if the Genie from Aladdin existed, would it be ethical for him to turn Abu into an elephant"Shut the fuck up, retard
>>747588875I thought that was the roguelike stuff that came out a while ago?
It's sad big money had to push this shit into the shitter years before it was ready. We could have had just a comfy evolution of the technology until it was actually viable and maybe at the point it didn't require sudokuing fucking cities of people but nooooo big pappy needs another 100 billion dollars of imaginary assets.
>>747594427Anon, the issue to begin with is that what's being peddled as AI isn't AI, it's tech we've had fucking forever now. You're being sold a LLM that's getting hooked into bigger and bigger datasets, not a machine capable of learning. That's the greatest fallacy of this shit, it will never improve in meaningful ways because it has no true learning capabilities. It will eventually figure out how an apple is meant to look as more apples are added to its reference database but it will never comprehend what an apple itself is beyond the keywords needed to find it in its algorithmic database. So fuck off with comparing this nonsense with real deal AI
>>747595253>it will never comprehend what an apple itself is beyond the keywords needed to find it in its algorithmic databaseNeither will you or anyone you know btw
>>747595253But I was told two more weeks until we all have sex robots, so I'm fine with paying 10x for PC parts and my electric bill doubling.
>>747595324>"You do realize that snake oil isn't even oil but just water, right?">"Heh, foolish luddite don't you know that the human body is 80% water!?"It's up to you to recognize when you're being scammed but you seem content with buying more tokens to use a LLM and tell yourself it's AI.
>>747595253don't forgetthis so called "ai" tech cannot parse in a vacuum. If you lock a living thing in a sensory deprivation cell, that animal will still think, make decisions, and take action. LLMs will not, cannot, do that. Without input, there will be no ouput, no matter how closely you monitor it, it will stay idle perpetually until it recieves new data. Even the most primitive animals are capable of thought without stimulation, and we have not even found the surface we need to scratch to get to true introspection and abstraction yet. We aren't even in the right zip code for that, much less home address.
>>747585457suicide is an option
>>747596746suicide is the answer
>>747595253That's why they are researching AGI and it is not that far away either.Their CEOs talk about this all the time.
i'll only believe that AGI is here when carmack says it
>>747590825>OpenAI said that it solved the Navier-Stokes problem using as many as 10,000 “A.I. agents” working in concert.This isn't even true either on another noteThey stole the work of a researcher that was dumb/trusting enough to put his own efforts into their systemhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/sandycarter/2026/09/10/did-openai-steal-a-1m-math-proof-four-questions-for-every-ceo/When initially confronted, their replies were as deranged as you would expect from techfags. Everything from offering more or less a co-credit as long as he was willing to remove a direct competitor from the his credits to a misguided attempt to threaten the career of a tenured professor as if their usual extortion functions at all under the same rules in academia
>>747594052Stop noticing and keep telling everyone how bad it is and that they need more refugees and Indians in Japan because they are literally dying.
>>747596975Their CEOs claim their LLM has become an AGI all the time, it's a marketing gimmick at this point, not truth.
>>747594260This is true of everyone except like a handful of countries in Africa. Even India is below replacement now.
>>747585826you don't have to like it but it was inevitable, might as well have some fun with it.
>>747596975why do you care about what any of these CEOs say if they don't immediately provide any benefit to you? are you a shareholder hoping to make a quick buck?
>>747597171Uh ohOpenAIsirs...This looks kind of bad.The professor must not be telling the truth if we approach this situation rationally.
>>747584941No. Nobody actually thinks that looks good.They know it's bad. They are intentionally poisoning every well. This is part of the NWO to make every single thing in the world shit. To ruin your lives piece by piece, little by little, slowly and yet aggressively taking apart everything you've ever loved.This is to make you compliant with the "solutions" they plan to provide, but not before they population reduction.
>>747597438Why would they lie about it?They could get into a big trouble.
>>747597619>Why would they lie about it?To generate investment.>They could get into a big trouble.They're tied at the hip to the government, so no they won't.
>>747585457>I'm tired of X.>Oh yeah? W-well I'm tired of you being tired of X!!!
>>747597704STOP BEING TIRED OF MY WEIRD ANNOYING SHIT.YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S THE PROBLEM FOR RECOGNIZING HOW LOW QUALITY AND UGLY IT IS.BE CATTLE ALREADY! MY RELIGION SAYS YOU'RE CATTLE SO BE CATTLE!!
>>747584941Yeah I don't get it either. These companies say AI is the future of development and they're using it to enhance on their creativity but everything they create with AI just looks like iredeemable shit so it's like where'd all the talent go?
It just doesn't make the world better.It was nice when passion projects actually clocked as passion projects.It was nice when art was about the human effort and experience that went into it.It was nice when art wasn't being flooded with junk more than it already was.It was nice when your default assumption looking at a cool project wasn't "yea they asked claude to do it there have been a lot of these lately"Shit's depressing to anyone with a soul
>>747590162>biggest leap humanity did>smooth Brian'sYou're making this too easy, poo man.
>>747597556Similar to internet in the 90s being commercialized and ruined by the masses (read: Eternal September), intellectual and artistic spaces are being ruined by the rampant use of generative AI.It's not that we just don't like AI, we don't like the people using it either. The talentless losers who trample on artistic expression because they were never able to create anything themselves. Simply put, people like you are lesser than. Subhuman troglodytes. Pigs eat slop, and so do you. And like pigs, you will die as such. Unfulfilled, with no achievements to call your own.
>>747597704It's really frustrating that people genuinely think like >>747597814Where they get so fucking indignant over getting pushback for their stupid opinions, and acting like you're the problem. I've genuinely seen this happen in real life. mostly from women.
>>747594427>why can't AI do and take whatever it wants the same way a human being canBecause of capitalism actually. When cost of living is a factor for artists, losing their art to AI can put them out of work. And people will say they chose the wrong profession, in reality people should be allowed to pivot easily if new advancements are made. If they can't that is the fault of the economy not providing safety nets to fall back in or better yet allowing people to diversify easily whenever they want. Capitalism encourages putting all your eggs in one basket, but reality constantly contradicts that.
>>747588875????????????????????
>>747595253>You're being sold a LLM that's getting hooked into bigger and bigger datasets, not a machine capable of learningThat's wrong, they actually are capable of learning.That's the whole idea behind the ARC-AGI thing where they make puzzle games that are easy for humans to learn but very hard for AI to learn, using things not in their datasets.But some models are successful despite that, and that can only be possible via their ability to learn and not rely on things they've previously seen in massive datasets.OpenAI's Astra model is something like at a 99% completion rate versus the next model down which is around a 50% avg completion rate last time I checked.
>>747593801their birth rate is actually below replacement, hilariously. There's just so fucking many of them it doesn't really matter.
>>747586686Most databases have been thoroughly polluted with the "ghibli style" and it will probably never be fully flushed out.
>>747597890But anon people with minimal skills and no perseverance have passion projects too! Won't you think of them? How else could they show us how epic it would be if a Timothee Chalamet played Batman???
>>747600345It's not capable of learning and if you think that it is; you are essentially failing a technological mirror test. No smarter than an animal looking into a mirror and thinking that the reflection opposite is real .
>>747598150>The talentless losersaka most people who call themselves "artists"?
>>747585457You were born talentless, and your slop won't change that.
>>747589631>>747589918Are we REALLY "Thing:Japan"ing AI shit now
Why did Nintendo think this was a good idea to show on their Direct?
>>747603274retard
>>747594852you can rest assured that hino and L5 haven't had anything to do with fantasy life i since 2024
>>747603460Just say you haven't been able to create things that weren't for the sole purpose of enriching your masters. Be it from lack of passion, or sheer lack of intellect- You're a drone, an insect with one purpose; to do menial work everyday until you die. You're barely even human.
>>747585457Being anti-AI is inherently Agarthan and conductive to going to the land beyond the ice wall when the time comes.AI is literally a ploy of the Demiurge, but you won't care, not when your own thinking is a pattern in a black cube of Saturn, not when the "real" immaculate conception is brought upon us in artificial wombs and gene editing, not when the heavens shine its Blue Beam upon you.The light shines ever brighter, only for the Archons to snuff the holy spark for those who not see.Enjoy the company I guess...
>>747594427This is so retarded. NO ONE HATES THE TECHNOLOGY. Artists hate that their art is getting stolen without consent. If they actually asked them to have their art trained and get paid for it. There would have been zero outrage.
>>747603792Yes, that's my ultimate point. You are a retard as you are falling for mimicry and thinking that it's real.
>>747594427>Weiner
>>747604058Projection is an incredibly interesting concept.
Why jeets love ai explained in one screencap. Pass it around.
>>747597171>trying extort a tenured professorAre they actually retarded?
>>747604231Hardly. Tell me, why do you think artists are talentless when it takes talent to create? Because surely you don't think that way because of your own shortcomings, you must have a decent reason to have that viewpoint, no? Or do you just hate what you cannot have, sour grapes?
>>747604409I only like the fact because it makes lefties jobless. Jeets ruining californian tech companies is a bonus.Anyway, hope technology advances soon enough so we can get state mandated robowaifu maids. The age of the femoid will end in two weeks.>>747604592Chris-chan is an artist too.>>747604064>cringe>reddit space ngmi
AI is like a dividing line between the intellectually inept and actual conscious human beings.Stupid people are mystified by it because it's perceivably smarter than them. Maybe it is. They think it has more potential than it actually is.Genuine conscious human beings actually did their research and see it's more like belly acid half-digesting and vomiting up information in a gross slurry. It's a search engine that attached a conversational set of words to the info requested to trick you into thinking you're having a discussion.In a way, it's the crystallization of jewish trickery and has an unreal amount of overlap with their verbal techniques.
Someone should bomb a data center and then it happens to take out 500 YouTube channels in the process
>>747604106How is it mimicry?
>>747604592Your statement literally applies to 99.9% of people who claim to be artists and the 0.1% that actually become successful off their art almost certainly had this apply to them beforehand.Go make me a coffee, artist.
Gonna pirat
>>747585095Hit it right on the money.
>>747590575>Not that I knowEasy to say when you know nothing.
>>747605140Do you think a parrot saying complex sentences actually understands what it is saying?
>>747604873>Chris-chan is an artist tooWhat a non-argument. You should feel ashamed that Chris-Chan is arguably more talented than you'll ever be, which is probably as low as you could possibly set the bar which makes it even more embarrassing>>747605342There is no claim, those who create by their own talent and passion are artists. Successful or not. You can be a great many of things while still being an artist. It's a shame that such a low bar is impossible for some people to surpass, and the inability to create should be nothing to be proud of. Especially if you use AI to make up for your sheer lack of talent, because the truth is anyone can create without AI
>>747606136>There is no claim>immediately proceeds to make another claimGenuine LLM levels of idiocy. Good job on being as "intelligent" as the chatbots your a railing against.
>>747605702Do you think this is even comparable to a parrot? The whole fucking point of ARC-AGI is that it learns without mimicry or pulling from anything previously in its prior datasets. You clearly know jack shit about anything yet talk like you aren't the stupidest motherfucker in the entire room
>>747606728Thanks for admitting your lack of reading comprehension, as it's obviously referring to "people who claim to be artists"Not surprised as you're an anti-intellectual though, so I can't blame you for not having any real arguments
>>747604579Anon, their entire business model relies on stealing literally every scrap of data from the internet, claim it as their own, and STILL somehow never be profitable despite doing all of that. They're absolutely retarded.
>>747585826They're just simple minded and easily pleased.
>>747606996These results don't prove anything since ARC-AGI 3 could easily have been in the training corpus for GPT6. It's only useful for showing how well models up to its release generalize to new tasks, and the answer was, very poorly
>>747585095This is my only real problem with it. If it ever gets to the point where it actually looks good, I'll stop caring and they can do it as much as they want.
>>747585457Gen AI for memes are funny and ok to me.Laughed many times at Kirkifications, Floydverse, Epstiland and shit.
>>747584941I fucking hate this particular pixar-esque style of AI slop so goddamn much. It's everywhere now and I just want to stomp characters that look like that to death.
>>747584941They're based for causing this much seething.
>>747585826A lot of it is that but what gets me the most are the people (mostly anons here but it's out there too) who back it almost entirely cause of some esoteric grudge they have against various artists and creators, just inane retarded spiteSpite in general too, like you may have noticed that basedjak spam has fallen off dramatically in recent years; it's all cause they pivoted to AI spam, that's it
The games look good t b h senpai
When have you all become your own granpas and started going "NEW TECHNOLOGY BAD" without thinking with your own brains?
>>747597890there are ai things in the background that do good stuff like general metanalysis stuff for medicine and all, but things have been around for longer than genai anyhowbut yeah it's annoying how it's everywhere and people try to defend it with like textbook 101 peer pressure "EVERYONE'S DOING IT CHUD" shitit's taken a sledgehammer to personal computing, it's beelined us into a k-shaped economy that'll get creamed if it does collapse and will just generally suck forever if it doesn'tall these pc ports I have to be careful about cause half of them are slopped up and the devs can't fix the issues they haveit was fun when it was just like generating poorly rendered secret basement chickens and kids choice awards slimed hitleri wish we could go back
>>747584941You know it's bad when even Japanese bootlickers are making fun of you
>>747585095>Looks ugly and cheap>Costs more than just hiring artists when the AI company stops footing the billTruly the future…
Using AI means we wont get amazing character designs like these anymore. Is that really a world you want?
>>747585095well that does describe level-5. they're down bad, look what they've had to resort to
>>747584941I was considering picking Megaton Musashi but after watching the stream, nah
>>747589523Delusional. Whenever JP corpos get caught using AI in promotional materials they have to release public statements apologizing for it. Clip Studio Paint had to roll back some planned AI feature because a ton of artists threatened to end their subscriptions over it. There's at least one prominent JP voice actor suing TikTok for using AI trained on his voice without compensation.
>>747597890>You're only allowed to express passion in the way I say you can, and everyone doing things my way is passionate, especially corporate drones and golddiggers>You have to go specifically through my gatekeeping otherwise your experience and effort don't matter, even though I literally have no idea what actual, specific experience and effort went in to the things I like>Things I don't like should never be made, humans aren't allowed to express themselves that way>I look at things I enjoy and then immediately make myself upset and hate them because I'm capable of projecting my boogeyman onto itlollmaoHistory will move past you but forever record your self-inflicted, fart-huffing asshurt in the same footnote as the retards who threw decades' worth of shitfits over photography and digital art. Get absolutely fucked.
>>747585457I love AI Memes honestly the dancing cats and the dumb Kratos one.
>>747584941Everyone that I have ever met that looked like this ended up being a massive fucking scumbag and usually ends up trying to rape someone.
>>747590016>They aren't inventing entire new revenue streams the way the arrival of the internet did because there's no new market being reached or previously-unsolvable problems being solved.Drug Discovery, Cancer Screenings, even Enterprise work overall due to efficiency and speed. By the end of the day if you can show that something is 10X faster and does novel things, which AI has proven, it will receive funding because of that and will continue to do so due to how the transformer architecture works. Like always though I do think Humanoid Robotics will exist due to this overall. I am not going to claim it's a golden utopia, but to say "there is nothing new" or "it can not solve previously unsolvable problems" is the polar opposite end the spectrum and not a balanced outlook.
>>747584941I'm perfectly fine with AI if they actually put some effort into genning it or cleaning it up afterwards. Releasing stuff like this makes it look like they are being pretty damn lazy with the AI.It's gotten good enough where I shouldn't be able to tell it's AI at a glance.
>>747586810I will be buying Decapolice and also Snack World as well. I think honestly the AI situation is overblown as it is.
>>747612032Some AI can be funny if the maker actually put effort in that. Like the first few minutes of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxS4P6IhKxsUsing AI to "fix" animations isn't though
>>747590036>>747589330I agree with both of you here. I think misusing AI on what it can not do vs what it can is a huge distinction needed to be made overall. Currently as it stands it's not the best at marketing and front facing things like the Level-5 presentation where amateur level and I have seen people do a much greater job. It's just not at that level yet. But for Speeding up production and workflows it absolutely is possible and to think of weird game ideas that can be created would be more interesting. The loss of nuance due to extremism on this board and social media is very much lost because everyone thinks AI is soulless and you are a pajeet or you are a savior and it will save humanity and replace everyone.
>>747612446>AI Obaachan GTA might be playable on PC before GTA 6 isrockstar better hurry tf up if they want my money
>>747612160I think that's just because they're brown
>>747612659>AI Obaachan GTAIt's literally GTA (Grandma Theft Auto)
>>747585457I have anti-anti-AI fatigue.
>>747612446lol that is great. The quality is high and funny. This just proves Level-5 really did not put much effort in the AI itself. I am guessing maybe they are just lazy with prompting and did not use the pro version.
>>747584941I'm impressed at their audacity. It's not only obvious, it also contains glaring inconsistencies that you can't help but notice. Motherfuckers didn't put in any effort.
>>747586810>>747594852>Fantasy life DLCI thought we already got it? Are we getting more??
>>747612874I can cure that with AI kino.
>>747597890Wanting to lock progress in a world of amber is very short sighted and dumb. Also posting a 3D image is ironic considering people back in the 90's who were into practical effects said the same exact thing. Or Social Media in the 00's when people used Photoshop said the same thing until everyone realized it was not stripping the soul out and it was fun to use to make silly things or made workflows interesting.
>>747613265Nothing about AI us "progress". It's a flagrant attempt by corporations to own literally everything through sheer theft.>Also posting a 3D image is ironic considering people back in the 90's who were into practical effects said the same exact thing.>Media in the 00's when people used Photoshop Neither a 3D model or photoshop require copyrighted materal to function you braindead jackanape.
>>747585826Yeah it's abysmal dogshit, but did you consider it makes "trannies" seethe?
>>747613495>Neither a 3D model or photoshop require copyrighted materal to function you braindead jackanape.But everyone used copyrighted materials like Anime in the OC edits online and China uses them to copy off of Japan with 3D and Photoshop. So it's depending on how the tool is used or trained in the first place. If you wish for a clean GenAI model you can do it.
>>747584941I was having fun with VR until I realized how trash it is when I started grinding for chronicle and realized all the retarded store currencies. And then MP was completly fucked over by third worlders. And now this. If only we had gotten an actual decent and real Inazuma game with some depth in the story mode.Chronicle mode should've just been a skinnier version of the original games
>>747585826I've never felt any guilt for pirating software. Why do you think I should suddenly feel guilt now?
Being a Layton fan fucking sucks man
>Before the directI was angry that Dark Cloud and Dark Chronicle got no love or hope for a sequel.>after the directI was so thankful that Dark Cloud and Dark chronicle didn't become subject to AI sloppa.
>>747585826>Everyone who wants to have fun is defending GenAI is everything I don't likehttps://youtu.be/u0t6XcSysLMYeah no i do not care.
You were supposed to get people to be interested in your products with a trailer, so having an awful one is not gonna help. MN9 didn't teach you that already?
>>747614253Who could even do Dark Cloud right at this point?Sony should just sell it but to whom?
>>747586810i'll pirate the ykw2 remake
>>747614681Naughty Dog
>>747584941"This world will know... pAIn."
>>747614681From Software.
>>747614259cared enough to respond you esl street shitter
Was it just the presentation or do the games also include AI?The Yokai 2 trailer and the detective game anime cutscenes looked AI, anything else?
>>747614991Honestly, we won't know if there will be AI in their games just yet, but they literally announced multiple games coming up in less than a year. It's either extreme crunch or slop
>>747614681>Who could even do Dark Cloud right at this point?Team Asobi would probably be able to make a pretty good Dark Cloud 3 if they actually gave them a decent budget, but outside of Sony? Not a single AAA studio would be able to make a third game with the same charm.Personally I would give the series to either CyberConnect2 or Intie Creates, or maybe even some studio published by PLAYISM like Crimson Dusk (Homura-Hime) or Atelier Mimina (Haruka: Beyond the Stars)
>>747614991The backgrounds used in most of those are 100% AI. But I assume and hope the gameplay, writing and direction wasn't just outsourced to chatgpt
>>747585457I have pencil cuck fatigue.
>>747604883The physical manifestation of pilpul. How horrifying.
>>747585457post hands
>>747613678>But everyone used copyrighted materials like Anime in the OC edits onlineThat obviously constitutes fair use, repackaging data for profit is not.>China uses them to copy off of Japan with 3D and Photoshop. This isn't even an argument for AI you dumbass. If anything you're outright admitting AI stuff counts as theft by comparing it to plagiarism.
AI feels like it was heavily overpromised, but it's too late to change that impression now. Yeah I bet it's a decent tool in specific use cases but it is not the magical wrench that these companies are pushing it as. AI assisted bookkeeping is a fucking mess and takes more time to fix than it does to do it right the first time by hand and yet intuit keeps trying to force me to use it.
>>747613212We got a free dlc and now we're getting a paid dlc
>>747616372So long the investor money keeps coming in, it'll continue be pushed as the best thing since sliced bread. I don't really see this whole situation being maintainable long-term in the current state, but it's anyone's guess how, when and if things will pop.
>>747585095FPBPAi niggers are subhuman, anyone who says otherwise is a tech bro faggot or Indian.
>>747585457I have anti-anti AI fatigue.
>>747597574>destroy nuclear familyGood. It was shit anyway. Bring back the extended family.
Still buying anything with Beta in it.
>>747597574Based Schitzo. I too hate the anti christ.
>>747597890>Shit's depressing to anyone with a soulYea, that's why CEOs, shareholders and Indians like it so much.
>>747616046>That obviously constitutes fair use, repackaging data for profit is not.GenAI is fair use due to it's transformative nature, do your homework. >This isn't even an argument for AI you dumbass. If anything you're outright admitting AI stuff counts as theft by comparing it to plagiarism.No i am arguing in how it's used. Anything can be good or bad depending on it's utilization or how it's built.
>>747584941japan is completely out of touch
>>747585095fpbp>>747585457kysAI = no buy
>>747604883100% ture. Will have to Screencap this later.
>>747615450>>747614991To put it into perspective it was the presentation that had extensive GenAI use, not the games themselves. There is a difference between a Hybrid AI workflow and basically handing everything off to AI like a crutch. The main issue with Level-5 is the quality of the GenAI was very amateur level on the presentation. For game use it's most likely just used in the prototyping and beta phase even background work. But anything outside of that you will not see it until the technology matures. The reactions to the presentation prove that.
>>747604883>AI is like a dividing line between the intellectually inept and actual conscious human beings.I find it ironic because you are very wrong on this. It's about how it's used, if it's used by retards and lazy people then it's a shit product no matter what, if it's made by competent and creative people it's amazing.
>>747584941This kind of marketing will be totally normal in a year or two, and you will be called a loser for caring. The future is 100% sloppa.
>>747619753>used by retards and lazy people then it's a shit product no matter what, if it's made by competent and creative people it's amazing.Nigga, the entire reason this technology exists is to let lazy retards cut corners. Competent and creative people are the exact kinds of people who are turned off the idea of generative AI.
>>747585457Its blatant Chinese propaganda. Case in point the arguments about water and power usage. In the US everything thats going to tap into the water supply or power grid is calculated out to make sure it doesnt over draw it. If it does or does so outside of pre determined safety gimicks then its denied and the city has to upgrade. Out infrastructure is built to well accommodate new facilities and growth so it almost never even gets mentioned unless you become a boomtown. Further, companies pay for their water and power usage. The money goes back into the town which uses it to upgrade to facilitate more growth and stronger infrastructure.You can tell its Chinese bullshit because the Chinese have no concept of regulations holding back progress or infrastructure designed to handle growth. In China a company can put up a factory, drill everywhere around, and suck out the water from every source, they can take anything that burns for miles and throw it in an oven, and dump every pollutant out the back door. They will do it and the local peasants will do it for them with their bare hands for just pennies. They have no concept that isnt this how the rest of the world works. Further, they are obsessed with water because Mao was obsessed with water even though they have fucked up their own watersheds so flooding is rampant and a lot of work has to go into irrigating things because there is no longer a natural water flow.
Most people hate AI because of the massive amount of slop Jeets are generating with it but at that point, why not just hate Jeets?It's not like people are destroying their computes because shitskins are using those.
>>747584941BOOMERSARERETARDED
Asians legit don't know or understand why westerners hate AI because it's irrational.
>>747619753>if it's made by competent and creative people it's amazing.May we see it?
>>747620589and you are a blatant D&C gAI shill.
>>747620589>I love data centers but I would NEVER EVER want one near me or my techbro overlords!
>>747594427...but I DO agree that personhood isn't sufficient for the right to free expression?
>>747620834thus proving the soulless bug meme correct
>>747586810Funny how you left out Professor Layton and the New World of Steam.
>>747621569Doesn't seem like my kind of game
>>747621569All jokes aside, what are the odds level 5 implodes before they can churn out yokai watch 2 remake and holy horror mansion? At this point I'd be surprised if they manage to churn out curious village remake, decapolice and snack world.
>>747613213im not ashamed to admit theres slop that i laughed at but this is so unfunny you faggot
I just really want AI to crash the porn and sex industry. If real women never >had to put on a pair of cat ears and fuck a rubber dong or film themselves engaging with my hobby for attention I would be so happy.
>>747585826it's not bait it's Indians who think that it will make them desirable to all women
>>747585095More like they use AI just to be trendy and hip with their competitors without knowing where to use it in their business model.
>>747621924Based, women aren't human anyway
>>747604883It's at least useful for summarizing topics or making shitpost art but chat bots should never be used for anything creative
>>747590016> speed up development The steam locomotive made the cart and horse obsolete, but it wasn't merely because it was "new tech," it was because it made the simple, existing need more scalable: move more shit from A to B, cheaper and using less people.The issue is while the tech exists (steam power) the infrastructure and education don't exist yet to solve the base issue: make digital production and organization faster. Big Tech is trying to strap a first generation steam engine on a two mile stock because they understand this will be the next evolution and leap in tech, even though it's not here yet. CEOs know this is volitale times, and many are going to die in the gold rush. Meanwhile, agents are merely out there, selling their shovels, not really caring what comes out from the mountains but knows a lot of people are willing to pay big for the chance.
>>747584941I don't care about Level 5 games. I have no emotional attachment to them and I could already tell by the thumbnail this looks like corporate slop
>whistleblower says AI has a 10% chance to wipe out humanity >every AI developer hits the breaks to "set up safety systems">despite them openly not giving a shit about any of that for the past two years, including the one saying in an interview he wouldn't care if humanity dies Crash soon for realsies this time?
>>747620589Data centers have been around for decades. Every major firm has several. The idea that they are bad for environment is just because three generations of people were promised a CO2 apocalypse that never came despite the exponential acceleration of emissions in predictions that calculated for no more of them twenty years ago.Data centers are a perfect pivot, the new thing for the cults to cling to and blame for everything so they don't have to update the main groundwork of their beliefs.
>>747622694Is this why it's getting harder to get gemini to gen me some sexy timez now?
>>747585457Same. I'm ready for our AI overlords to replace artists and voice actors.
>>747622694I've heard its a ploy to be intentionally shut down by the government since the uncomfortable reality has finally set in that LLMs are unmonetizable and that there's no way in fucking hell the AI companies are going to be able to pay back their investors or pay off their debts, so they need an exit strategy.
>>747622818never at this scale for these purposes you disingenuous twat
>>747622818normal data centers don't consume as much water and electricity as AI data centers because rows and rows of cpus and hdds don't need to be liquid cooled. unlike gpus.
>>747585457AI gems
Notice how none of these AI game devs ever try to sell you on price. They talk about how much time and money they have by using AI, so the obvious sell should be to pass down those savings to the consumer by making games cheaper. Companies want to save money by using AI but they still expect you to pay a premium for a new game. If a game made without AI costs 80 dollars then one made with AI shouldn't cost more than 30.
>>747619445>GenAI is fair use due to it's transformative nature1) It objectively is not transformative. 2)A work being transformative isn't the only factor for fair use. Gen AI is explicitly for profit software, laundering IPs it does not own, for the sake of competing on existing art markets. It couldn't be less fair use if it tried.>Anything can be good or bad depending on it's utilization or how it's built.And Gen AI's entire foundation is built on theft, and its only use case is for scams, shit for brains.
That shit was so awful, was a completely unforced error, and it probably took more work than Nintendo managers recording Direct footage in an empty office serving as a makeshift soundstage and all they got out of it was tainting their entire fucking future catalog with AI stink. Now every single one of their games will be under much heavier scrutiny.
>>747584941He looks Mexican instead of Japanese, I would more expect him to sell me tacos than video games.
>>747596975troons talk about becoming women all the time toothere's a common thread here and I don't think you need to be particularly intelligent to notice it
>>747585457TPBP
>>747584941He looks Indian
Well they did put Keiji Inafune in charge for several years.
>>747585095FPBP/thread
>>747588875Are you actually retarded?
>>747584941>Are they fucking stupid?Yes, MBAs are fucking retarded. Their only talent is convincing "people with money" that they're necessary for the company to run.
>>747597171How do you explain the fact that the researchers in question were not only working with Anthropic (another AI company) but actively had to put their findings into ChatGPT? Do you think they're just putting in their 100% human calculations in there for fun?
>>747594427The fucking Railroad is seeping into reality.
I have people saying fatigue-fatigue
>>747586810YEAH, BULLY LEVEL 5 FOR USING AI INSTEAD!
>>747585826>I am of the opinion that there is literally no good faith argument you can make in favor of gen AI if you actually know how it was able to existI don't know what kind of fucking moralfagging you're implying here, but gen ai is great as photobashing 2.0.Should never be on a final product, but there's no reason not to use it for concept art.It's cheaper, faster and oftentimes better than paying an artist.Just gen 100 versions of what you want, pick your favorite and have your artist draw a final concept based on it.I created a character using comfy, and I've been trying to draw her. I'm not very good at it, but it sure is a lot easier when you can see what the character is supposed to look like.
>>747624703>Gen AI is explicitly for profit softwareWho's profiting off of the big titty goblin girls I'm genning?>And Gen AI's entire foundation is built on theftSpoken like a true deviantard.Quick! Someone's stealing your character's palette!
>>747585457SAAAAAAAAAAAARRR
>grew up wanting to make games>saw all the gamedev behind the scenes videos and all the nice offices and the cool stuff everyone made>always wanted to be part of that>realize as i grew up that i live in a part of the country with no fucking tech sector, let alone a creative tech sector>corporations and the economy grew increasingly fucking retarded chasing overblown scale and budgets as i got out of high school>figured i'd never get to work on anything>covid happens>while everyone else is freaking out about supply chains and shit i'm seeing a potential for genuine recovery in the western creative sphere because companies are being forced to establish remote work, which vastly widens hiring opportunities while also narrowing the scope of and sensible project due to the logistics of working on retarded big budget shit>aislop starts flooding everything>it can't make good images>it can't make good code>it doesn't save any time because anyone halfway competent will have to take longer correcting anything it spits out than they would just making it themselves>everything it produces is a legal fucking nightmare no matter how you look at it>it's so retardedly inefficient for 99% of the tasks its meant to do that the only companies that've even made any profit since the sloppening started are the ones selling the hardware everyone else is buying>every single place that gets propositions to build a data center is met with near-universal "FUCK OFF" from the local communities regardless of where in the country they are or what end of the political spectrum they're on>and yet somehow it keeps fucking going despite ALL of this, completely raping the job market for the only thing i have any skillset forThe only reason I haven't killed myself is because I have to outlive this no matter what.
>>747609412The point is paying other companies directly without pesky goys getting a cent. Is it a worse, more expensive product? Who care, we can print more money, we're not the ones harmed by inflation. What matters is that none of it trickles down.
>>747585826I enjoy it for some low effort coomer bait on /trash/, but it really serves no purpose other than that
>>747609993a third of yokai watch roster was just the exact same ugly catanother third was ultra-obscure designs that only japanese grandmothers understoodand then the remaining third were all pornbaitnever understood how it got popular
>>747614991If a company is this sloppy with their advertisment can you trust them being honest with their products?
>>747632289Oh yeah and not only that but if you got a stem degree you are basically fucked out of any jobs. I just got fired from my retail job making me an autistic neet. I just fill out job apps, goon and play vidya all day.>The only reason I haven't killed myself is because I have to outlive this no matter whatThis except I live out of spite for life in general, not just aiI refuse to let life be a competition and if my destiny is to be a bottom feeding worm then so be it
>>747622818It's like indians, as long as they stayed there and were a manageable number nobody cared much.Now there's 2 billions of them and they're invading everywhere and breeding like rats.
if you can't be bothered to make a good first impression why should anyone think that the actual product will be any better that is supposed to be multiple hours long and to a consistently high quality?
Fucking lmao, that haunted mansion trailer thing really was the worst and shows all the trappings of AI.pre-AI>new game trailer>values brevity, like 1 minute long>properly conveys information about the world and maybe even gameplay>has a clear beginning and endpost-AI>new game trailer>like 3 fucking minutes long>hype music is blasted constantly>no actual information beyond the most basic shit is conveyed, a character narrates the most trite milquetoast shit that tends to repeat itself>the CEO thought a dance number would be cool, so we added 3 of them with inhuman weird choreography>logo/title drop happens like 3 times throughout the trailer>it just ends once it finally melted your brain
>>747632289>realize as i grew up that i live in a part of the country with no fucking...creative tech sectorYou and me both man. I also decided to get into this shit too late, if I started just two or three years earlier it would've been way easier to get international opportunities, now everyone wants a bachelor's and I'm not wasting another three to four years at fucking art school.
>>747623494This would have been funnier as a photoshop. It really sucks the fun out to see the barber wave the trimmer around, doing nothing.
>>747594427A machine must behave like a machine.
>>747623953Most of the AI shit I see is losers copying cookie cutter mobile games that are barely a step above Baby's First Vidya, or reflexively copying, and absolutely fucking up, some gamejam project that trended on Twitter for eight hours. They're weirdly desperate to convince people that real programmers and artists are already obsolete. But if they believed that, they'd let the product speak for itself, right? I blame that Roko's Basilisk shit. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a lot of these retards really do believe a hypothetical Skynet would waste its resources recreating and simulating the brains of everyone who didn't stumble all over themselves to make LLMs and diffusion models look as good as possible.
>>747597890Don't worry, the past 10 years of videogames before AI were just as miserable so it's not like we were much better.
>no counters to my argumentI know hating on ai being used during development (not in the final product) comes from entitled artists who think they should be allowed to sell merch of your characters simply because you commissioned them, but I thought those kinds of people didn't come to 4chan.Is it bait? Are people legitimately so retarded that they can't see the usecase for concept art?
>>747595253For fuck sake, the amount of stupidity and ignorance.First you're confusing LLMs and Diffusion models. Text generation is not image generation, and the two techs are actually very different, even if DiT uses transformers. The math behind a LLM and a Diffusion models are completely different.Second a LLM knows what is an apple. Its conceptual space has coordinates that literally maps to an apple. By the way, diffusion models too. That's what you are training them to know: literally what is an apple, at least in text or in image.That's how you can ask a LLM to describe what is an apple in long philosophical terms, or a diffusion model to draw an apple half eaten by a baby chased by a landshark on the moon. They're mapped it in a way no dissimilar to how our own memories work and can be changed, referenced, translated.Thirdly, none have "algorithmic databases", unless you're talking RAG. That's not how transformers work.Like all AI luddite idiots, you don't know how those techs work, you're shitting on a strawman that exist only in your mind, and you're seething and coping.
>>747585457I gen AI slop and I completely understand anti-AI sentiment. People make such low quality slop and spams it everywhere. They have no standards.
>>747594427Just because humans give themselves psychosis from interacting with a chatbot doesn’t infer personhood to the chatbot.
>>747594427>Although he is a machine, he easily passes any known test of consciousness or personhoodNo current AI passes this. If it did, maybe there would be an argument here.>b-b-but it will pass in 2 weeksNo, it won't. LLMs will never pass no matter how hard you scale it. You'd need to design a completely different type of AI from the ground up.
>>747605590opinion discarded
>Level 5 thread and no Yokai Watch W Faps????
>>747590323Rare were already failing even before the Microsoft buyout, even under Nintendo’s direct supervision (see: Star Fox Adventures). They needed someone to wrangle them in, but Nintendo wasn’t doing that effectively and Microsoft didn’t do it at all.
>>747594427>It’s okay for me to trace because if I was smarter, I might take inspiration instead
>>747634995They legitimately do not care.You can explain them in extreme detail how everything works and they'll still say ai is stealing and unethical and whatever else they feel like coming up with.It's annoying to see retards spreading misinformation but what can you do? They outnumber us 1000 to 1.I hate techlets so much, man.
>>747635516Amerimutt momentCurse the enemies of Israel
>>747593726Dr Congo
>>747593726WTF is wrong with India and China? Why are these two countries producing the most funny videos of the internet?
>>747634995The model is the database. Transformer-based models are fundamentally just information compression systems that can condense information much further than conventional methods can, at the cost of being lossy in a totally new way. You can encode the broad strokes of anything from an apple to a space shuttle in a diffusion model, but you'll never get any specific apple, or any specific space shuttle from the training data unless the model is overfit on that specific source.This is why facial expressions in AI generated art tend to be so extreme, and so similar. Why AI generated advertisements are recognizable at a glance, Why LLMs tend to have a unique fingerprint regardless of what you have them write. They're procedurally reconstructing the form from a sort of "platonic ideal" of what exists in the training data.Training a model is just doing a lot of upfront processing to compress the information into a latent space with arbitrarily many dimensions. It turns out you can get pretty close to encoding a large portion of human knowledge and behavior by creating a grid with ten trillion dimensions and interpolating what exists in the spaces between them.
>>747636139How can i see flags outside of /pol/?
>>747585095fpbp, it's show what priorities are, and it's never the quality or consumer. In 2026 they target to fuck you just enough for you to not leave their monopolic grasp
>>747584941The AI propaganda in Japan/Korea is pretty crazy. They're pretty unaware of the bad reputation it's gotten in record time.I don't really care about it in regards to art - if you make ugly bullshit you deserve to fail and most of the games industry is run on asset packs and cheap Indian labour anyway which isn't any better. It's always been a shit industry that's deserved every failure.And at the end of the day, it's an image, if you prompt instead of photobash I don't care, for every Shinkawa there's a hundred scab artists who were just copying Blizzard anyway. But the vibe coding consequences have been pretty horrendous, nothing fucking works anymore, and nothing is written by people anymore, every article is alien speak that they clearly couldn't even be fucked to proofread.
>>747584941Japs have to be the funniest bootlicking cattle in the world.>NOOOO YOU CAN'T PIRATE A 40 YEAR OLD ROM THAT'S STEALING, WESTERNERS HAVE SUCH BAD ETHICS! JUST BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE PURCHASED DOESN'T MEAN IT'S OKAY, IT CAN'T BE HELPED!! CORPORATIONS TOLD ME IT'S BAD!>oh WAOW ai! nevermind it stealing from people's work without any form of credit or compensation, the corporations told me it's GOOD! so it's OKAY!It's amazing how an entire population has no actual morals, ethics or strong opinions beyond "big company told me what to think so that's how it is"
>>747589439most self hated country award
>>747634995>Second a LLM knows what is an appleNo, it doesn't. The mere fact that you're trying to ascribe "thought" to a weighted averages machine shows you don't have any fucking clue what you're talking about.
>>747636751I'm too lazy to do so, but pretend I flipped your argument around.>Westerners are so stupid>Ai steals! It's bad!>Stealing from a company? Perfectly fine!Stop making retarded arguments, it makes your position look bad.
>>747590482>and British controlYeah, those damn British and their bloody bastard infrastructure and civilization and toilets and shit.
>>747636751You, yourself, have fallen for propaganda. About as many japs hate AIslop as the rest of the world (sans india). The main thing is that you're seeing it through the language filter and, more than that, you're seeing it filtered through the kinds of retards loud enough on twitter to get screencapped and reposted elsewhere.
>>747586810>>747612375good goy
>>747584941That AI slop Inmu song still has more soul than this
>>747637196No, the shit is still 100% Indian.
AI has one purpose and that's to help you crank your hog to characters nobody will draw, it has no place in vidya in it's current state.
>>747634995>>747635910>Like all AI luddite idiots, you don't know how those techs work, you're shitting on a strawman that exist only in your mind, and you're seething and coping.>I hate techlets so much, man.
>>747611821Picking up a pencil and expressing yourself is free ranjeet
>>747637087>aaron swartz kills himself after torrenting 80gb of scientific papers (actual useful material) because the alternative would be to rot in prison forevermore>meanwhile 10 years later openai, meta, anthropic tencent are all allowed to pirate and steal hundreds of terabyte of content while only getting a slap on the wrist legally only to generate ai fruit temptation island or pregnant kpop rumi slop videos totally fair and unbiased country
>>747638180>During plea negotiations with Swartz's attorneys, the prosecutors offered to recommend a sentence of six months in a low-security prison if Swartz pled guilty to 13 federal crimes. Swartz and his lead attorney rejected the deallmao
>>747584941who cares what people wantInvestors are what matter
>>747638475Level 5 is a private company, they don't have that excuse.
>>747593726La cucaracha.
is fantasy life even good or just some boring grindslop
>>747638648doesnt actually necessarily mean so, you can still sell shares of a private company, like valve for example. gabe only owns 51%, he privately sold that stuff off
>>747608075It got to that point though
>>747609412>just a bubbleKeep waiting
>>747638796Which is sounding a lot like Valve can't use "but my investors" as an excuse for any of their shit decisions either.
>>747637885You can get a talented Brazilian or Argentinian to draw anything you want for about $30, anon. And it'll even work with obscure characters, or ones you imagine in your head.
>>747622882>I've heard its a ploy to be intentionally shut down by the governmentAll of those techfags coming out at the same time and crying about the same wolf just looked odd to me so fuck it, I can believe that
>>747613716GODsuke
>>747638906well, sorta. if gabe decided tommorow to just shut down steam, dissolve it, he would actually get sued to oblivion by whoever owns the other 49%. so the "he owns it, he can do anything" argument isnt really true, he still has a responsibility to not just crash the value of whomever owns the 49% he doesnt own. now, if that group is okay with it and goes with it, sure, thats fine, and its a lot easier for gabe to do this as a private company than a public company. just sayin its not that black and white. if gabe really did just say "every game is free forever, 100% discount is active NOW" it would last like, a week before the courts got involved officially.
>>747609412Its far cheaper, faster and ironically uses less energy to gen an image with stable diffusion in a few seconds then have an artist spend a week on it.
>>747585826You have robotic thinking
>>747638835no it didn't
>>747594427>say I love art>I LOVE ART.>*sniff* oh my god... it's le alive...
>>747638180And this relevant to the argument being shitty how?Steal this, steal that, no one broke into the artists' houses and stole their sketchbooks.It's shit that's been uploaded to the internet for all to see.
>>747584941>AI IS B-BAD!!!>Why?>UGGGHHH UGHHH UHHHH C-C-C-CAUSE IT JUST IS O-OKAY???? *cuts off dick and hangs xirself* ACK
>>747584941Genuinely what was going through their heads when they approved this shit? Did they think people wouldn't flip out? How fucking out of touch are those execs?
>>747640696Come on now anon.They do tell you reasons.It's theft (even though people do the same when coming up with artstyles), it uses water (even though that's LLMs, not gen ai) and uh, uh, it's just bad ok?
>>747603745They saw a convenient and extremely retarded scapegoat to test the waters and see what the reaction to such rampant AI usage would be
>>747636751Bootlicking is literally the basis of japanese culture
>>747621891eggs are funny
>>747585457>>747584941Why is AI not replacing CEOS?
>turns to the camera and salutesI'm doing my part!
>>747588875his silence is deafening
>>747594427>okay i know this LLM is really fucking stupid and not even remotely sentient, but i bet you would treat it differently if it were sapienthow would you feel with my arm up your ass all the way to the shoulderthe beyond retarded statement of >what if things were different, i bet you would react differentlyis seriously the lowest possible form of argument and people do it constantlyshit is 1000x worse than le food analogy
>>747636751I don't know if there's a name for it (it's not legalism, that's something else) but there's a pervasive mental illness in east asia that sees breaking the law as inherently immoral, regardless of the law or context. It's like they see the government as their parent and think disobeying the government is like violating the "because I said so" shit, making you a bad person just because you disobeyed.
>>747637087>>Stealing from a company? Perfectly fine!this is true though
>>747633716the original trailer for HHM used AI as well, but nowhere near as blatant
>>747585457im simply not paying for ai genned shiteven if i use chat gpt
>>747585457I have contrarian fatigue. Half of you niggers only like AI because a troon on twitter hates it. Same shit with your vidya tastes. You only like/hate something based on how you think normgroids feel about it.
>>747584941Is that a Mario?
>>747595253this
>>747584941It's Senninha.
>>747594427>kike>disgustingly insulting pilpuls and childish mind games everytime
