She is actually talking to the paypigs. You will pay the sub...FOREVER and you will keep playing WoW... F O R E V E R
>>747585490>disney crap
indistinguishable from retail. they even made the badass dwarf and bear look like a gay millennial with his "furbaby" bear. music was so not classic it was insane. it sounded straight out of the worldsoul saga.
what's with their aversion to just making high elves playable? there's literally no other explanation beyond just trolling the players at this point, no lore alteration necessary to make playable high elves a thing would be worse than making up an entirely new race out of thin air to fill in their niche like they've just done for the second time now
>literally the time to give us an expanded vanilla where we can play and experience shit that was already in vanilla or implied to be there like all the varying human bodies and ogres and high elves and naga, etc.>we get this retail shit with the 13868357th made up elf racewhat the actual fuck. i refuse to believe this was made for classic fans. this is for retail players to bridge the gap. literally the WORST outcome to have those degenerates come to classic.
>>747585692It's funny because it looks like RETAIL - instead of actually Classic +
>>747586795dawned on me as I was having a shit.See blood elves are on the horde for two reason.>1. blizzard need a pretty race to attract nips, gooks, chinks and they wanted it to be the horde>2. blizzard raped the lore enough for it to happenso you see without doing the exact same thing they did in TBC it doesn't make much sense.here's where sky elves come in. >Re use TBC model>Add in the same thing you did with TBCand this ones a bonus>Make it race neutral The last ones important, if they're race netural it means you don't need to make two races, it means you can charge $30 for one race.If it's a new race (reusing the old model becasue jewish), they can just say whatever the fuck they want.if it was highelves they'd need to add a race for horde or explain why the high elves would ever join the horde.
>>747587276yeah it even has that ugly as fuck ai generated looking corporate flat UI from retail. fucking insane dude.
>>747585490Love it when blizzard destroys every good idea of vanilla+ and also doxx the people behind them just to put out an extremely 'mediocre' (Putting it very nicely) "official" paid version
>>747585490It will be good, stop being a chud.
>>747585490>do it for her
Retoilet enjoyers eating good Classictards enjoy your woke millennial slop FOREVER
>>747587157
>747587839not falling for it, israeli.
looks fun, can't wait to try it out
>>747587787Based oriental GOD
>>747585490Everything about this is retail, how the fuck did they fuck up so badly
>>747587553I'm a liberal, it looks dogshit mate what are you talking about
>>747585490game for chinks if you're still not aware of who's the real paying customers of blizzardbetter steal that milk
>>747587553as a social democrat this shit looks like gay and lame fucking faggotry. hope this helps!
>>747587157classic fags proved they will never be happy with classic no matter what is or isn't done with it. Blizz long figured out the "no changes" classic crowd is NOT the ones paying the majority of sub fees anymore. Retail remains their main focus and always will be. And the instant anything changes in classic idiots like you scream that its like retail. They got tired of your shit and are just doing something to keep making money. that is all it ever will be.
>>747588183>I'm a liberal,
>>747585490orc men are so lucky
>>747588335Try having a genuine conversation once in your life instead of hitting reply on posts and then arguing with strawmen you made up in your head.Please.
>>747588335not at all. i was perfectly happy with turtlewow. if blizzard had done that, i would have given them their flowers, despite my seething hatred of them. i also enjoyed conquest of azeroth as a complete "what if" fanfiction scenario of a bunch of fun classes. you are just projecting. this IS fucking retail minus, not classic plus.
>>747588414Yeah bro, just because I want socialized healthcare and higher minimum wage doesn't mean I want all my media to become feminine coded and overly monetized.
>>747588732hes one of those americans who thinks anything left of ronald reagan = gay sex
>>747586795>making up an entirely new race out of thin air to fill in their niche like they've just done for the second time nowIsn't this like the fifth time?
Troonssic funservers are retoiletPrivate servers remain as the true vanilla experience
>>747588732Are you the gay dwarf from the trailer perchance?
>>747589020just go back, redditfrog. please.
Haven't seen a single YT vid stating the obvious (That it sucks shit). Shills out in force.
>>747589052No
>>747585490Is this the cutest elf they've made since TBC? Has Blizzard back?
You guys can doom all you want but we are so back and you know it.
>>747588469orc body type B*
>>747589183retail fags are actually so delusional they think this is good.
>>747589183It's so obvious how shit this all is, I get maintaining public relations, but I would just not go to Blizzcon if I had to shill this
>>747589365No bro, it's gayer than ever, the male customizations for the "skyborne" look like an actual ai image of a gay elf.It's actually over
>>747588335This, honestly. Vanillafags can't be satisfied unless it's free to play (although they don't mind pay to win like most pservers) so catering to them isn't really wise.
>>747589183on (you)tube the only doomers are fat retards
>>747589183>Get everything we wanted>wtf why is nobody complaining!?
>>747588335>>747589726OSRS literally provided the blueprint on what to do, small incremental changes that are added, with community inputall of the successful private servers did that post launch, which is why they were successfulascension and turtle wow at release was completely different than the beloved private servers they eventually becameblizzard is incapable of this, wow forever is completely in the retail engine, it's completely over, it's an abandonment of classic+
>>747585490YeahIt was not subtle at all desu
>>747589749You wanted 30 dollar OC donut steel elves?
This is the target audience btwhttps://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1wfa0v6/blizzard_wow_forever_is_exactly_what_i_and_many/
wowfags have been raped for 20 years
>>747585490>retarded audience claps like trained seals
>>747589990The elves can be white. Box price plus subscription was already fine in 2006. The standard, actually. They opened a bunch of the most requested zones and dungeons, made meaningful changes to racials and talents, and kept the soul of the game.
>>747589749I didn't want wow classic remade in the retail engineI didn't want paid DLC allied races that aren't even based on any established loreI didn't want shitty lighting effects to ruin the original artistic integrity of the classic zonesI didn't want retail class rotation design implemented into classicI didn't retail developers anywhere near classic+
>>747590225>The elves can be white.But you will never be, saar
>>747590264What did you want?
>>747585490Who even is this
>>747590225>just accept the lore rape>just accept classic remade in the retail engine>just accept the massive changes to combat>just accept the retail story writingHOW ABOUT NO
>>747587553>>747588414>>747589020stop posting frogs with food on the heads faggot bitch
>>747585490Sex with the blue elf
>>747590403WoW already raped W3, it's too late to cry faggot
>>747590445Sorry fren
>have you heard of the (sky)High Elves?
>>747585490I thought they already did wow classic what's the difference here?
>>747590598ftfy
I bought the bear. Do I at least look cool?
>>747590332Turtle WoW added added items into classic loot pools that fleshed out the other specs, like Plate with Int.I wanted that.I wanted TBC talents in Classic, without the TBC combat changes.I wanted Blood Elves and Draenei, without Outland.I wanted Jewelcrafting.I wanted Ascension WoW's XP through Professions.And we start there, and let the community have to agree on what gets added next.It's so fucking simple.
>>747590332the old clunky game on 800x600 screen with nothing new since the game is already fully documented online
>>747590769The issue with WoW classic is the "NO CHANGES REEE" faggots won, and they released the game with 'no' changes. This resulted in a solved and stagnant game where every single thing was figured out from 2 decades of autism.This is a reimagining of what would happen if TBC never happened, and instead of expanding vertically they went horizontally instead.
so glad they are adding some accessibility options to make the game easier for us dads of 6 with 15 seconds a week to play. stop whining you fucking chuds classic was never for you this game always respected diversity and inclusion
>>747585490I choose lolicatgirls
>>747590507Yeah nah, go be a fucking loser, waste your money on retail fag shit for women
>>747590891>just start with TBCTBC ruined the game forever though. Opening Dalaran and Hyjal first is the smartest move. And they will expand from there.>>747590943Classic Era isn't going away but your servers will be dead.
>>747590769they remade classic in the retail engine with modern retail developers and it's badthe only people that like it are the blizzdrones
I was going to paypig for whatever the largest edition was if they added high elves now I'm not even going to try this shit, genuinely saddened by how much blizzard hates their own world and lore
>>747591143I didn't say start with TBC, reread, not the combat changes, not the xp rate changes or the easier leveling difficultyI said just add the TBC races, their starting zones, and the new profession, and the talent tree fixes.That's it.Nothing else from TBC is being entered.
>>747591061>retail raped wow classic !>actually, I'm fine with night elves being frail faggots unlike the brutal savages they were in warcraft 3You deserve the pain and you should genuinely kill yourself.
>>747590950Every version of wow is going to be solved on launch now since they make their betas public. You can even pay to get into forever's
>>747587279>blizzard need a pretty race to attract nips, gooks, chinks and they wanted it to be the hordeTrue. Americans were perfectly content with fat, nigger analogues as their only options in games. Thank goodness they had to pander to the rest of the world and actually make something somewhat appealing.
>>747591331I never said I liked wow classic raping Night Elf lore now did I?You are a loser that wants to defend Blizzard by inventing arguments people don't even make.Just buy you garbage early access to to wOw 4evar you fag, don't damage control, you are a loser that loves that shit, you suck it up with a straw
>>747591329>I didn't say start with TBC I said start with TBC and go from thereGame isn't for youIt's for the oldfags who were there in 2004.
>>747585490YES MY QUEEN
>>747591537You can be obtuse all you want but the oldfags like me wanted the good things from TBC, we just don't want Outland separating the community, nor the combat and leveling changes that sped you through leveling content.
>>747591506Then you are retarded, I am sorry for not noticing earlier. Like you just said, I never said I played WoW, I didn't spend a cent on anything post-2001 era of Blizzard. Go die in a ditch now faggot
>>747591729The issue is we will fundamentally disagree on what was good about TBC. The whole core concept of it from the ground up was flawed and it's way better to pretend it never existed.
>>747590048A smelly Indian shill farm hired by blizzard to post on social media is the target audience? A bit weird considering how poor and retarded they are.
>>747592095I don't particularly like the TBC Draenei, no, but it's what the community actually wanted so I would have accepted them.Skyborne I completely reject. It's garbage made by retail devs.It has real modern d&d energy, generic, bad, gay, fruity.Thinking they will do Mount Hyjal any justice is just not intelligent on your part.I would rather them do less developing, and just port things from the other expansions while fitting it into the original azeroth.Instead, we are getting the worst possible answer.
>>747587553It looks amazing, and the hate for it is so forced. This is exactly what classic players have always wanted, and I am stoked as fel about it![Post at least 50 supportive comments about the newest game mode, World of Warcraft Forever™ on social media to be eligible for compensation, remove this message when pasting examples provided above]
>>747592014Hmm, so you're saying you aren't this disingenuous faggot >>747590225 here trying to sell gay blue $30 retail smurfs into classic?Then why get into a conversation with me at all huh?I think you're a loser who got caught out, and you have no way to argue, other than to say>well wow was always woke garbage, so just accept it!Go fuck yourself you loser, you have no friends, and you convince no one
>>747591595Sadly it's some knockoff thing, not highborne ladies...
>>747592364Go back to forum posts from 2005, nobody wanted Draenei in that form. In fact, don't look at anything people after 2005 wanted, and maybe WoWF will make more sense.
>>747592540>y-you have no friendsActual retard. Take your meds and fuck off, I won't feed your delusions
everyone was asking for sky elves, retail features, new balance, horde and alliance being the same (especially because both factions will be 80% sky elves) in classic. ogres, nagas, actual high elves made no sense, no one wanted that. all of this makes perfect sense since we all like retail. I'm so glad classic and private servers died for this.
>>747585490You can immediately see that she was made for the Chinese audience, because she's cute. Compare with Liadrian from the Midnight cinematic, that's mainly for the Western audience, fugly
>>747592696Then why respond to me at all you offtopic retard? You are a loser with no friends, you come into a thread to lecture me with projections, thinking I don't care about the original lore.Faggot, I don't even like the Metzen lore from Warcraft 3, Bill Roper wrote everything I gave a fuck about
>>747586795>high elf refugees who flee to stormwind because they didn't fuck them over, lordaeron did>sylvannas loyalists who or dark ranger types who settle in undercity There, neutral elves. Make another paypig race if you must. HOLY FUCKING SHIT DO I HATE BLIZZARD
>>747592571I agree, but it's easily to port TBC starting cities and races into classic without fundamentally ruining the gameEverything you want from WoW Forever, you are not going to get in any meaningful way that you will be happy with, I at least wanted Classic+ to be the more fleshed out version of Vanilla.That's what the community actually wanted.The community poll blizzard ran?Had a bunch of retail fags fucking it up.Demanding changes no one who plays classic actually wanted.WoW Forever is for no one
This shit is going to be realmless?????
>>747585490This shit is going to be ruined by streamer faster than blizzard can do it themselves
>>747593817Yup. You choose what kind of megaserver to join.
>>747593576>I at least wanted Classic+ to be the more fleshed out version of VanillaLooks like that's what it is though
>>747593892isn't this super bad for when you want to mine ore or pick up flowers?
>>747585490It's kind of amazing how blizzard saw what Everquest Legends was doing and took every possible wrong lesson from it.
>>747593982Nobody knows yet.
>>747593982Probably going to be a bazillion layers
>>747593976It's not, it's completely on the retail engine, combat physically doesn't feel the same anymore, the math for combat is completely changed
>>747594297>combat physically doesn't feel the same anymorehow would you know you haven't played it
>>747592435You're a fake fan of the franchise, you never liked WoW to begin with if you think this is what Classic fans wanted and (You) and people like (You) ruined WoW for EVERYONE with your relentless shiteating.
>>747593817It's sharded, everything is sharded, so you'll never see the same people on the server and build a community again, just like classic intended
>>747594348now how do you think i know how it feels???im fucking upset, and i can only vent about it here
>People have been wanting Classic Plus for years now>Blizzard has an easy slam dunk by adding Orges, High Elves, or Naga as playable races>Decides to make Blue Elves from the sky instead and make them the new playable raceNothing has changed with Blizzard or WoW. Watch, the new elves are gonna make a point about how much gay sex is had and that becoming trans via magic is normal.
>>747593982just sell a token and buy your ore off the AH. what are you, poor?
>>747594431because you're inventing problems to complain about would be my first guess.
world of warcraft forever sounds like a threati had enough of that game a long long time ago
>>747594468WoW Forever is literally a gay game, retail just had some gay shit in it, the complete identity of WoW Forever is homosexual
Did I miss any big changes from todays stream?
>>747594468Blue elves can be normal skin colors, i dont know what the difference between that and a high elf would be besides the name.
>>747594728from what I gather they are tied to the elemental plain. Meaning they most likely can be shamans.
>>747594707Yeah they changed the whole game, they deleted the elves and added ogres, and kept shaman horde and pally on alliance, and deleted all the soul gas in 1 day.
>>747594728The lore>>747594468The entire problem is faction imbalance, Horde need a "pretty" race for people to play.
>>747593982just get off the asmon layer
>>747594728>i dont know what the difference between that and a high elf would be besides the nameLore, Voice, Dances, Emotes, Vibes, Original TBC Developers vs Retail DevlopersSkyborne are technically trolls.
>the appeal of Classic is that it's close enough to vanilla that nu-blizz hasn't mucked it up yet>Homebros now want nu-blizz to muck it upWhat the FUCK causes this phenomenon?
>>747593982just toggle it off bro
>>747593982don't worry, sharding will make sure you'll never see another player in your life
>>747594868It's not classic fans, retail fans wanted this, retail devs worked on this.
>>747594889don't you think that's going to increase the already huge bot problem?
>>747594939It took me too long to realize I don't like WoW, I just really like the Warcraft Death Knight fantasy.
>>747593982Realmless or not those ores and flowers belong to chink bots.
>>747594812That faggot mindset is what ruined the Horde and the game as a whole.Everything is made to be pretty or appealing, not cool, edgy nor monstrous.
>>747594997just. toggle. it.
>>747595073this, they just add "pretty" races so alliance cucks try playing the other faction
>>747594812>The entire problem is faction imbalance, Horde need a "pretty" race for people to play.this wasn't a problem in the real vanillahorde had fewer players but they were leagues better than the toddliancein fact i experienced many good players quitting firsthand because of all the blood elf shitters who couldn't play the game to save their life invading when TBC hit
Everyone gets transmog loot? wtf
>>747595309IIRC it was a huge issue in China even during vanilla which is why we got Blood Elves.
>>747585490More like Retoilet Fornever>>747586795Money
>>747595121yes, don't you think shard toggling increases the bot problem??
elves that are really high up lmaobloo elves lmaooo
report and ignore every mexican player
>>747588335Trvclear strikeClassic purists were never anything but a loud minority that will never be happy and streamer drones.Pure vanilla is a solved and unbalanced piece of shit with a great features so to make it properly good is to rebalance classes and add new things so every server isn't 97% one faction and that faction is 50% warriors, don't forget your mandatory double digit consumables and world buffs for your raidlog "main", just don't play it outside of raid because you'll lose duration on your raid buff, oh and don't forget to pay for loot in your GDKP runs which is definitely NOT pay2win, all to speed run 20 year old, undertuned content, not to mention it's full of bots.Classic spawned the worst MMO "community" I have ever seen, and I hope they stay in classic or hardcore whatever shit they're in, I just hope the streamers will fuck off from Forever soon after launch
>>747595526technically it's fairskinned trolls, isn't wow forever lore great?
>>747588335So they made another branch of retail? Good to confirm that.
>considering classici remember reading rmt was pretty rampant in classic. is/was it really that common? played few games that got fucked around pretty badly with uncontrolled rmt, and it's something i look out for now
>>747595286I mean to be fair who the fuck would want to play as barefoot nigger savages whose streets canonically smell of shit?
>>747595605>[unprompted retail player babble]
>>747595691I love undercity wtf
>>747595690they haven't announced the wow token yet for wow forever, but there's icons for it in the ui, so yes, there will be legal rmt in wow forever
ALL subscriptions are scams
>>747595775probably smells better than orgrimmar
>>747585490You should all be grateful they made it that easy to handwave this away and ignore it as illegitimate. They could have snuck on oc donut steel rainbow elves post launch but didnt. They let you know upfront with a huge disney cinematic that this project is for the women and gay men that pay and play for retail and hate vanilla. They didnt hide behind the pedigree or imply it isnt the blue haired women and their enablers developing this - It's the most honest blizzard has been in years.
All jokes and memes aside, I wish we had gotten High Elves for Alliance and Ogres for Horde just so ogrefags could get exposed as the frauds they are
>>747585490>You will pay the sub...FOREVER and you will keep playing WoW... F O R E V E RWhy do retards still play WoW anyway?
>There will be people who only play this 1 game their entire lifeholy shit...
>>747587553I believe you grilled cheese pepe.
>>747596082there already areand chances are they're in the thread with you
>>747595847Orgrimmar is at the open, so surely the wind takes away from the smell from the female orc pussies right
>>747591595>>747592562>caverns of time mentionedsoon...
>>747596014>alliance fag
>>747596292They have no sewage. They all literally shit on the sides of the streets.Undercity has not really been used as a sewer for some time. It just smells of death I guess.
>>747588335Private servers understand what the spirit of WoW Classic isBlizzard is incapable because:1) Nobody in their company plays the game for fun anymore2)Everything has to go through layers of corpo bullshit to be vetoed3)There's nobody with any clear idea of what they want to do, they just follow trends and market research to make the most insipid boring shit ever that placates the average consumer idiotClassic WoW was doomed to be just another Retail palette swap once they started adding new content. Blizzard is so incompetent they couldn't do the FFXIV or OSRS thing even if it cost them their lives.
>>747593982The TBC Anni servers were megaservers and the economies were BEYOND fucked by bots. Good luck with that.
>>747596430by that logic stormwind also has no bathrooms anywhere, there just aren't dpictions of those in the game, except for the usual outdoors letrine in farms and shit
>>747596587unfortunately, asmongold advocated for megaservers because he wants his community to carry him through all content and defeat the purpose of playing the game, which is now why he says mmo's are a dead genre
>>747596352>High Elves become most played Alliance race in Forever>Ogres become least played Horde race in Foreverogrefags are delusional if they think this wouldn't be the outcome, and it's the exact reason they had to give us meme elves
>>747596586>1) Nobody in their company plays the game for fun anymorekek reminds me of the diablo 4 video of game devs playingshit was so rancid
>>747585490World of Wumao is a brownies poorfag game, made for the lowest of the lowest sub humans.Because blizzdrones are poorfags and browns.
>>747596738>High Elves become most played Alliance race in Forevermaybe that's because the alliance has 3 races nobody cares about?gnomes, dwarvens, and humans?horde races are more balanced in terms of playerbase
>>747596631anon orcs live in tents
Damn it November is going to be a shitshow. Zelda threads, WoW Blizzfags shitting this entire board up and then the normalfag marketer people that think my wifes son GTA6 edition is worth a shit. Fuck man, then there is those maplestory faggots that are getting their game next month which is dead now that WoW is entering the fray shortly after.
>>747596889show me the bathrooms in any capital, everyone shits on the streets otherwise
>>747596738no one wants meme elves, people use ogres as an example of what blizzard refuses to give people, not out of popularity, but out of fitting in with classic
>>747596956fuck, even if they wanted to make a neutral race at least make goblins
>>747596809Humans are literally the most played race in every iteration of Classic. Elf races only surpassed them when Demon Hunters came out.
>>747596909Ill be playing mechwarrior 5 and skyblivion.
>>747597046maybe that's because the alliance has 3 races nobody cares about?gnomes, dwarvens, and night elves?
>>747596956>they should create a race no one would play because that's the "spirit" of classicdo you niggers even read the nonsensical babble you type up before you post it
>Have the chance to strip the game down and rebuild it from the foundation up using over two decades of experience to guide your hand>You can fix the lore, eradicate all the systems and overhead, rebalance and steer the gameplay back in the right direction, resculpt the world in it's entirety>Most notably you can plan ahead in every single aspect of the games design, setting the groundwork early for things to be added later, providing a path through the lore and the gameplay for players to enjoyNo, you get a fanfic blue elf. Oh and it costs extra.
>>747597127>alliance fag really thinks no one likes to play ugly races
>>747597127not everyone is an agp troon like you
>>747597127>Everything has to be the MOST POPULAR or it should be ignored and never added!Why is this mindset so prevalent in WoW threads today? What harm would adding Ogres as a playable race do to you? So what if only a small amount play it compared to other races, the investment is small in terms of manpower and hours and the return on that investment is a much more interesting and intriguing setting.
>>747597305that's just the way alliance troons think
>the no shoes get called out on their hypocrisy>start calling everyone trannies because they have no actual argumentslmao
>>747597523I don't know what to tell you sister, some people just like to play orcs, trolls or undead
>>747597445It's so strange to me because I've seen multiple people now have borderline meltdowns over it, standing there screaming at the thread that no you can't add an ugly character because they don't like it.Most of the work is already done, the models exist, animations exist, at most you'd have to rig armor on them in whatever fashion you deem fitting (or unfitting, it would be funny if its all too small), and come up with a handful of extra animations for specific attacks but it's not like WoW animations are groundbreaking $1,000,000,000 mocap related investments.
>>747597305NPC think. It's why talents had to go. >everyone just follows the leader and does what they are told, why should we bother with these choices?Meanwhile, all the people who enjoy making those choices have their voices drowned out by the moronic masses who crave whatever dumb convenient popular thing is being shilled.There is also an effort to change things to appeal to people who never liked them to begin with.In other words modern big budget video games are made for people who don't like video games.
>Asmongold is going to be playing againHere we go again
>>747597628I really don't know, I assume they're either trolling, or are agp troonies that don't understand metal head men wanting to be hardcore orcs or minotaurs
>>747597127>>747597127>>they should create a race no one would play because that's the "spirit" of classicyes bro, it doesn't matter if no one would play it, it fits the world, not fucking skyborne troll elfs
>>747597305>What harm would adding Ogres as a playable race do to you?blizz would make less profit than selling elves to foids who have no races to play in horde :((((((
>>747585490Only that would halt my revulsion at this is developers hosting a talk in blizzcon about how people really hate the wokeshit writing of retail and have a Classic Promise of no Key to Everything Girlboss or Troonslop, Forever!Unfortunately you and I both know this image is of the lead dev's pet Girlboss Troon who's the Key to Everything already
>>747585490What percentage of players are going to make their Skycurious elves look like Azshara instead of sahuagin?
I really would have preferred goblins because I love goblins and want to play as them, but I'm not too upset about it and I imagine they'll be added eventually.Game looks really good, can't wait to play.
>>747597658he will play for 1 day, then play oot for 2 or 3 days, and then gta 6 comes out and he's unmazed.
>>747585490>and you will keep playing WoW... F O R E V E RI literally never started to play World of Warcraft. I just continued to play WC3.
>>747597916You could just add blood elves early it's not that hard to do. Considering this is taking the setting in a new direction you could drop them in but with a different story attached, no half destroyed city, no problems with the sunwell.Frankly it would be better to start off with most/all of the races you plan to eventually add being in on launch instead of one by one adding them through the years.
>>747590264The good news is the classic+ you faggots have been imagining forever you can still imagine it lmdfao
Damn I really wanted to get into the Beta but Aion 2 is coming out around the same time. What do /v/?
Everyone was asking for sky elves, retail features, new balance, horde and alliance being the same (especially because both factions will be 80% sky elves) in classic.Ogres, Naga, actual High Elves made no sense, no one wanted or asked for that.WE'RE GOING HOME
>>747585490>the high elves made a pact with air elementals to get BLACKED
Hearing that they're the former Dire Maul elves makes a lot of sense. I'm sure a lot of people won't like them but I'm fine with it.
>>747598430they're not even going to pretend to stick to the vanilla low res look?
>>747598781you get the choice of new graphics or classic graphicswhich is the way it should have always been
>>747594812you think those motherfuckers care?nah it's because everyone working there has a massive hard-on for belves
I just watched a few streams with dungeon runs.Looks to me Paladins are still going to be the easiest to tank due to 4+ mob damage like in TBC.There are plenty of pulls with 6 mobs in the new dungeons.Warriors got a lot of improvements and look really good but thunderclap still only hits 4 targets.Druids bears on the other hand barely got any buffs at all for aoe threat and Swipe can still only hit 3 mobs. (yes i know this gets better when you get past a certain crit threshold). Unless they buffed thorns, it seems to me the druids will have the hardest time holding group threat.Don't get triggerd by this post, I'm just writing to see if anyone else has any better information.
>>747594728annoying white eyeballs
World of Wakanda Forever
>>747588335As a whole this isn't really about classic fags despite the concept being known as "classic+", it is about people who are generally put off by the ridiculous direction retail went and are interested in some sort of reset.
Nahugly "women" don't make my pp hard or interested so I won't sub and won't buy anythinglore is dog shitre-re-playing same shit is boring af even if you add some new gimmicks it's still the same shitthey haven't even shown a nice hub in any of the cities to chill at
>new race doesnt even use new models and animationsThis is so ass. If Blizzard doesn't give a shit then I'm not going to play it, simple as.
>>747585490They killed Ascension for this SLOP
>>747598430This is the type of poster I can never figure out, is this a bot, someone trolling, or a legit psycho addict?
>>747598910There should be no option, pick one artstyle, one level of graphics, and stick with it. Everyone sees the same thing, everyone experiences the same thing.
>>747585490Am I the only one who noticed this is the first hot elf female in Blizzard's cinematics since... 10 years ago?
>>747599602I'm sorry you were born with autism, anon. I think it's very brave and inspiring that someone like you still tries to fit in with the rest of us.
>>747599683They also made Sylvanas hot in the new War3 expansion. They're turning around.
>let's give alliance blood elves or else the trannies will all play horde>let's make it so the new elves can be niggers too>let's give the elves my little pony hair >let's give them a trailer about a heckin bear being a good boy>warcraft>no war
>>747599787They gave Whitemane pants, you nigger.
>True VANILLA CHADS wanted GOBLINS AND OGRES for the Horde!Meanwhile in reality...
>blizzard is incompetent, they ruined the game, we want the original experience!>blizzard is incompetent, they ruined the game, we wanted the original experience, but holy shit they are changing the original experience I am so hyped, thank you blizzardI really dont understand wow players
>>747599686So a legitimate psycho addict, got it.
>>747588732Too bad those are a package deal
>>747599902Part of that is that there's a whole class exclusive to elves, but yes, they're obviously the most popular races.I'd personally pay a one-time extra $20 or whatever if I got to play as goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes their approach going forward, many other MMOs have done the same thing.
>>747599920The NO CHANGES people are the same handful of autists and trannies that want to re-grind, for the 100th time, the same content they've been grinding out for the last 15 years, only this time """officially."""We all saw what happened when Classic released - every one of them cleared everything within a few weeks and then moved back to the private servers.
should i play wow forever?
>>747599920They added blue tranny elves to the game, fuck off and stop being a fucking liar
>>747599920this isn't the original experience thoughthis is just a crippled retail
>>747599902cont.This is also why they will NEVER give unique starting zones/racial content to anyone except Elves. Even Humans were a complete failure, as you can see with Worgen (Gilneas) and Kul Tiran.
>>747599920I personally feel they should have done this from the beginning. The detours into the expansions and just slowly re-adding all the updates that ruined the game in the first place was such a waste of everyone's time.This looks like it's had real, serious dev time and a large enough team to sustain updates so it's fine that we got it eventually.
>>747585490>She is actually talking to the paypigsThe fact that the race you have to pay $30 to use has the worst racials by a mile is sending me. The seething online is so good.
>>747599902the fuck is a void elf
>>747599902>Pandaren (N)absolute legend
>>747600283Highborn Elves who refused either exile or becoming Night Elves and instead fucked off to a different dimension.Essentially retooling what Night Elf Mages were in-lore into a full culture.
>>747600195>This looks like it's had real, serious dev timeso the retail shit which is hated by all of you had no dev time?I never played wow just followed the news, and this behaviour seems retarded. For me it feels more like you all want to believe about the abusive husband that he changed and this time its going to be different.
>>747585490>omg this company is charging me for thousands of hours of entertainment
>>747590225>eyebrows are wing-shapedHuh. Neat detail.
>>747596586>Private servers understand what the spirit of WoW Classic isgood thing blizzard shut down turtle and ascension wow, stole their shit, then put it up as a new game, then hired the pserver devs as consultants then, huh?whats the excuse now?also im not defending wow, i quit long ago because i have played this game for probably 100k+ hours if not more, and i am completely burnt out, i just hate classic players the most cause they are the biggest entitled pieces of mentally ill shits i have ever encountered in my entire life gamingFRESH? CLASSIC+? FRESH? WERE GOING HOME? FRESH? HOME? FRESH?Like holy fuck, shut the fuck up. Go play a real game like OSRS.
>>747585490
BLUE BUTTHOLE
>>747596809>horde races are more balanced in terms of playerbaseMeanwhile its gotten so bad on Horde that whenever elves were introduced, 90% of every horde faction on servers were blood elves. And by the time cata hit, literally everyone was a blood elf if they could be.This is how I know you didn't play the game, horde has always been blood elf dominated since nobody wants to play as a fucking retarded ooga booga with scoliosis.
>>747598631>design your cross faction oc sexy elf!You can tell they were seeing dollar signs by inventing an 'everything' elf race
>>747600457>so the retail shit which is hated by all of you had no dev time?I dunno what you're asking with this, Classic as it was was an incredibly lazy retread of shit everyone's already done beforeI'm sure everyone has their misgivings about a new game made by Blizzard but I'm willing to try it, who knows, maybe it's not complete garbage
>>747598396Aion 2 is going to last 2-3 days in the US. Korean games straight up suck shit and nobody is giving that gookslop P2W dogshit the time of day. WoW will eat that game alive
>>747599902>all those racesi think they lost the sauce in retail, that must be a balancing nightmarethey should of stopped at worgen and goblin desu, that was enough
>>747600709fake news, every belf player was just an alliance cuck tired of getting camped by undead rogues
Why isnt blizzard making wow2 or a new mmo instead of remaking a new layer to the 30 year old game?
>>747601021This is WoW 2.
>>747600853nah, blood elves always had the best racials bar none, you CANNOT beat a racial that can give you energy/rage/focus/runic powerits absolutely busted and always has been
>>747600814They unironically listened to the fans:>WE WANT PLAYABLE GOBLINS>WE WANT PLAYABLE WORGEN>WE WANT OTHER HUMAN CULTURESAnd then nobody played them.
>>747599920I'm sure if you asked 1000 people they'd all have a differing opinion, however they would almost all agree on one point. They want Blizzard to learn from the mistakes of the last 15~ years and rebuild WoW from it's roots, learn from the mistakes, double down on what was good. It's a chance to make the same thing again but better, that's all there is to it.What resulted isn't classic+ but rather retail-.
>>747585490Yes, same as us always coming back to 4chan. That is the true curse.
>>747601089No, this is "WoW in a timeline where Azeroth isn't destroyed." Because that's the plan for retail, an apocalyptic event that will destroy the planet, reset everything, and let them do WoW 2.
>>747601196The proof is posted in this thread that "nobody played them" isn't true. Maybe even you were the chartposter, sabotaging your own future argument.
>>747601258Bro, the $30 blue elves, retail graphics/mechanics, etc. are right there to encourage them to move over. The game is literally called Forever. Wake up.
>>747599902using data from a different cohort of players on a different version of the game with different design intentions isnt going to produce reliable insights. also data driven design is anti art bullshit for faggots anyway
>>747600762I enjoyed doing the MSQ for T&L, but it turned p2w quick with clads kicking people unless they can provide a receipt that they are paying to win.
I truly don't care about blue elves. the lore has always been cringe to anyone younger than 15.
>>747601258I get that you are coping hard because you wanted actual classic+ but this is it, this is their WoW 2. I'm not trying to make fun of you because we are all in the same boat, it is what it is.
>>747601161except it wasnt?
To be honest if horde didnt have access to an elf race the population would be 90% alliance 10% horde.
>>747586795It's because high elves are white with blue eyes and the execs don't want to market that because it goes against their californian ideals. You know this is true.
>>747601258>Because that's the plan for retail, an apocalyptic event that will destroy the planetI kinda feel bad for retail devs, they have to up the stakes every fucking expansion. Now its a fucking convaluted mess. TBC and Wrath had it right, Illidan and Arthas, just some evil dudes who threaten the peace of Azeroth.Not POOPOOLACHOOCHOO THE OLD GOD HWO WAS CONTROLLING EVERYTHING THE ENTIRE TIME BUT WAS ACTUALLY CONTROLLED BY THE SHADOW PRIEST DAGGER, WHO WAS CONTROLLED BY THE JAILER, WHO WAS CONTROLLED BY TITANS OR SOMETHING, WHO WAS CONTROLLED BY A VOID WALKER, WHO WAS CONTROLLED BY THE SHADOW PRIEST DAGGER AGAIN.Shit is so stupid.
>>747601537If you weren't cattle with an IQ lower than the Sub-Saharan African average then maybe you would be capable of visualizing second and third order effects but instead you made this post.
>>747601837>they have to up the stakes every fucking expansionI really hope they stay away from this shit in classic+
No playable harpy no buy
>>747601943>seethe
Ogres confirmed by Aggrend.More races/classes and changes coming.
>>747602062What's crazy is that I look like this.
>>747601837writers are globohomo NPCs so every character has to be them so a pacifist feminist cunt like them, which means only shitty capeshit villains that hate diversity, pride, and globalism
>>747602037You're definitely the target audience. Go be a good paypig and preorder another copy.
>>747601587We all know this, history has proven this but Hordefags deny it cause their faction turned into "The Sims" for women but MMO version once they caught a whiff of being paris hilton.People forget the blood elf population became so rampant, even blizzard made fun of them with a new NPC.
>>747590507And W3 raped W2 and W1.>Oh sure those civilizations that has flying machines, modern warships and submarines somehow didn't notice two entire continents.>No, nobody ever sailed more than 10 miles off-shore, apparently.>Apparently the High Elves also kind of forgotten all their history.>Oh and the Orcs were controlled all the time by a gigantic demonic army that has never been so much as mentioned previously.And I could go on and on.
>>747601587>>747602209Forced 50-50 fixes this.
>>747588335People were happy with Turtle WoW precisely because it was Classic+ but more or less in line with the actual original's game philosophy."No changes" was always 100% about "we don't trust modern Blizz to do any good changes".
>>747602062>Aggrend looks like an Ogre irl>is the most based fucking dev in the company and talks with multiple communities for hours every single dayI fucking love that guy, he even has the physique of someone who plays WoW.
>>747602285Turtle had to die because otherwise people would be making unflattering comparisons.
>>747585490>>747587157If you hate them already, you will hate their lore even more.They are the Wisps, that gangbanged Archimonde. They are blue, due to Archimonde's melanin.
>>747598631>Delicious brown elf.>Immediately thinks about niggers.What is wrong with you?
>>747602140i kneel
>>747588335>people say loud and clear they want no changes>make changes>they quithow could this happen???
>>747588732how about a $100 minimum wage?
>>747602372not gonna lie, i dont hate that explanation
>>747602062I hope they move the Tinker class onto Forever, there is no reason it shouldn't be there.
>>747602372I thought they were high elves that made a pact with the air elementals. Not that it matters since it's all retarded and none of this shit is canon.
>>747602430well good thing classic with no changes has existed for over a decade and nobody fucking plays it cause it never changeswho woulda thunk
>>747602062I can't believe they put Aggrend into the game
>>747602531Is WarCraft 2 canon?
>>747602062>3 months out of Warcraft Forever>Devs already have a dev timeline with new content/races/classes>4chan crying because no ogres or gobbos or draenei sluts yetgod what a fucking retarded bunch of spergs come here to think they won't give all this shit like ogres
>>747602463That would be cool but it'd make no sense to not release goblins alongside it. Thankfully the models are already there.
>>747599920>Vanilla with #NoChanges exists>Y-y-y-you can't do classic+ because it's gonna ruin the separate version of you gamedumb faggot award
>>747600052>moved on to private serversGUFFAWWWWWWW
>>747602681I don't think they're going to give us new playable models, only reskins of existing ones. The last new ones we got were in mop. I think they forgot how to make models that can wear armor
>>747602374shut up maghar
what do the nu-elves look like with classic graphics
>>747601587Why do you braindead faggots act like classic relaunch never happened ? Horde dominated multiple pvp servers, and the overall weight was 60 to 40 across all servers... Alliance dominated raiding scene, yet horde was still clearly more popular without their twink elves.
So no ogres or nagas? Just yet another fanfic elf?
>>747603218That's right. That'll be $29.99.
>>747585490The default classic version has enough work needed that they could have spent their time improving the game, completing quest chains, removing filler quests, adding more immersion features like a dynamic weather system and making it more complete instead of whatever the fuck this is. For some reason every classic+ goes straight into adding dungeons and zones instead of improving the base game.
Time to post this oldie againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVwYKtgFYCc
>>747602559>Is WarCraft 2 canon?If it was, maybe Khadgar wouldn't be a wheelchair bound pussy that does nothing. Bro is the most powerful mage in possibly the universe, and they put him in a wheelchair so the player can be da hero.Nah senpai, I wanna be a soldier with my hero Khadgar and nuke the Horde.
Is this the first time they're doing megaservers like GW2?
>>747602681>draenei sluts yetIf you think about it, a dungeon with Illidan was teased. If we interfere with that, then TBC never happens, and the Draenei will never crash land on Azeroth cause there will never be a fel orc army that rises up thanks to Illidan and literally genocides almost a billion Draenei and makes roads and buildings of their bones.So not only do we have a shit ton of Draenei in the universe fighting the Legion so it never reaches out doorstep. But it stops artists from making gay ass Draenei girls with penises all the time.Its a win/win.
>>747603483>read comments>everyone complaining everyone is a blood elfYet this is history proving nobody on Horde wants to play an ugly character and will always go for an elf. Yet they still deny it.
>>747603594games been a megaserver since late vanilla wow back in 2006 bro"battleground realms" have always been a thing, and expanded massively to cross server everything in wrath in 2008
>>747603727>the Draenei will never crash land on Azeroththere is no reason to treat current wow lore as canonical or as anything that cannot simply be altered or disregarded entirely.
>>747603963Really? I'm pretty sure I was in a server with Crossworld Play. Now you just join either PVP/PVE/RP/Other(what's other?).
>>747603998>t. J.J. Abrams
>>747604145that would make sense if not for the fact that wow lore has always been complete and utter shit.
>>747599902>Mechagnome>0.4%I'm surprised it isn't lowerLook at this shit
>>747598430so truuueee nobody wanted something that organically built on that cruddy classic anywaythat shit is for unc chudswe all want retail yaaasss
>>747598781No. The Skyborne starting zone literally just has a Dragonflight model they plopped in there.
>>747599902How the fuck has Undead fallen so far?
>>747604229It's just dungeons and dragons + warhammer lore. It's pretty good.
>>747598631>high elf>burnt elf>blood elf>sylvanas elf
>>747604619>It's pretty good.lmao
>>747604597It's not 2005 any more
>>747591729True oldfags have accepted that new Blizzard is nothing like old Blizzard. We moved on. We play better games. You got to let go man. You can be happy.
>>747604597>>747604794Eating corpses without consent is NOT okay.
>>747585490already unsubbed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udQhEKs_krgBLIZZARDHIRED THIS MAN
>>747605228I asked for dlss5 and anti soul gas and I got it!
>>747598631the dark elf is actually dark purple
>>747605228>wow if he UEfied
>>747590969This is unironically a good thing by the way
>>747598631>exotic race comes in exotic colors
>>747604291most of the lower stats you see are people making alts to unlock transmog and cheevos or gathering alts for racialsthey dont actually play those racesif you look at warcraft logs, every side is the race with the best racials
So since we're doing megaservers, what are y'all gonna be doing? PVP or PVE?
>>747590969oh crap i actually missread that. i thought you could get away with warlock shard management but guess not.
>>747605428>y'allkys troonie
>>747605228>anti soul fog and mexico filterpowerful....also i love how the fel pools in felwood now literally just look like green water instead
>>747604597>How the fuck has Undead fallen so far?People only played undead because it was the best choice to look good in vanilla on Horde, since every other Horde race looks like shit. Then the moment blood elvesh it, the Undead population started dwindling.
>>747605228this being shown while the drama about anti-soul gas is happening is pretty funny
>>747605428PvP is a waste of time, world PvP has never once been interesting or balanced.
>>747605428WoW was never built with PvP in mind
>>747605428Doesn't matter you can instantly swap between PVP/PVE/RP servers. The only server you cannot swap to is HC.
>>747605478Didn't they always look like green water?
>>747605508>>747605537>we live in a timeline where /v/ has become pve carebears who fear pvp so much they say dumb shit like thisgrim
>>747585490Forevially subbed and loving it!
You guys do understand they are probably gonna add a new race once a year going forward? Didn't start with a slam dunk though.
>>747602372ngl I would prefer this lore or the space goat theory an anon made last night
>>747605647The latter is true though, during the alpha players of any race could group up and do quests together, there's screenshots of taurens hanging out with humans in duskwood iirc. The PvP elements were added later on in development.
>>747605743You have literally nothing to back this upthey said "maybe down the line a new class"That's about it.
Game even has the barbershop we should start calling this Retail-.
>>747605743cool, we'll have 10 different types of elves that appear from thin air in 10 years! earth elves, lava elves, thunder elves, dark elves!
>>747605365I liked crafting my poisons and blinding powders THOUGH. If I wanted to constantly be doing stuff and watching bright number fly across the screen while smashing my keyboard I'd play retail.
>>747585596how is that disney? none of you retards even know what you're talking about, you just keep repeating each other like drones.
>>747605632That looks way more toxic and hazardous. Even if that's only by chance.
>>747605428PvE is superior. Do whatever you want and don't let retards waste your precious time. Then have dedicated PvP events in zones you can do if you want. SoD got it right, and it was some of the best world PvP I've ever done.
>>747605406I wonder what the IQ of robe man is. Look at that noggin.
>>747605954If you seen some of the WoW cutscenes they are glorified Marvel Disney crap.
>>747598631I will gladly ignore how stupid sky elves are if they removed nigger elves from both C+ and retail.
>>747605743I think most of the classic+ posters are scorned and angry ex-players who just want to complain.
>>747606035He's an Erudite, a species that evolved from humans who practiced magic and followed the wizard Erud. They have a base stat of 107 INT compared to regular humans' 75 and high elves' 92.
>>747605867They said that they will be supporting the game for years and years, this is the new cashcow, it's more likely than not.
>>747605610Nice after a long day of raiding I can go to the RP servers to 'relax.'
>>747605228They even made The Barrens look like QuelThalas for elf players.
>600 new crafting recipes>crafting lets you get actually good gear>crafting gives other people buffsAre there going to be pre-raid crafting buffs?
>>747593892Holy shit, finally!>>747593982No, there's still sharding. Just like there has been since the launch of Classic. All this changes is that you don't have to pay retarded $20 transfer fees to play with all your IRL friend groups.
>>747588335It is very simpleIf you dont make a version of vanilla that appeals to me, i aint payingIm not gonna buy your turd out of loyalty what the fuck kind of nigger are you ??
>>747606342There isn't a single MMO with an enjoyable crafting system because it feels like you're always competing with thousands of chinese bots at any given moment.
>>747606319https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5rmZTvOAI
I'll paypig for a better race, wonder how long till the next one.
>>747606293>RP servers to 'relax.'WTF goes on in RP servers?
>>747606823cock
>>747606823Femcels and incels pretend they're normies
>>747603563In Warcraft 2's lore, Khadgar was an apprentice to Medivh that got turned into a weak old man by Medivh's magic. They only made him a hot dude with white hair in Warlords of Draenor.
>>747585490I will unironically tempted to pay for 1 year of Forever.I want a forever home and expanded Azeroth without the bullshits from cataclysm
>>747606989Based
>>747585490>Take the original badass and serious Dwarf Hunter from the original teaser and turn him into an "aw shucks" adventurer frolicking in the flowers with his wholesome chungus bearYeah this shit is fucking DOA.
So which healer should I pick for WOW forever?
>>747606989>>747607054BASED SHAMELESS SHILLS
<Yotsuba>, EU, roleplay, horde
>>747607054tummy
>next released races will be blood elves and high elves>5/12 races will be elves
>>747606281>I think most of the classic+ posters are scorned and angry ex-players who just want to come back to the game they once loved and have fun playing it again.The truth we've learned in the last 24 hours is that Blizzard puts more value on keeping the forever mazed in their mazed state instead of trying to make a product that brings people back to the game. It is what it is, but it's a sad truth to finally see stamped into the history book.
>>747606823I'm from an RP server (Moonguard), and we just sit around talking about war stories.
>>747607191I could see them going for an elemental theme and doing gilgoblins or some kind of murloc relative, given the blueberry elves are apparently wind genies.
>>747585692>gay millennial>>747587787>woke millennial slopDo people under 40 even play WoW
>>747585490Not going to lie this is the most hyped I've seen the gaming community as a whole since the GTA 6 announcement. Everyone is going to be playing this shit.
>>747607073If he was badass and serious all the time, he wouldn't be a dwarf, he'd be a human. Dwarves are only a few steps above comic relief, Gimli was full-blown comic relief.
>>747607298>Instead of going with a base of core foundational races they are immediately going to these random fanfic tier sub races and could continue that trendgrim
>>747607580The foundational races are already there, you have human, green human, short human, blue human, shorter human, dead human, purple human and cow.
>>747607216not really you're being very melodramatic
>>747605228The TB comparison is just brutal. Fucking incompetent retards.
>>747607661What drives you to make such ridiculously stupid posts, wasting your time and ours.
>>747588715>i was perfectly happy with turtlewow. if blizzard had done that, i would have given them their flowers, despite my seething hatred of them. i also enjoyed conquest of azeroth as a complete "what if" fanfiction scenario of a bunch of fun classes.wrong, you only enjoyed those things because they weren't from Blizzard. if Blizzard had made any of those things official, you would have shit yourself at how the lore was "made up" or that they were desperate or some other stupid shit.face it, you just hate paying a sub for WoW
>>747607748This post has a certain Hyderabad je ne sais quois to it.
>>747607725Not really, I'm being realistic. Any minute hope/cope of a "WoW 2" sequel existing was squashed and as others have said Forever is aimed at current retail players and doesn't appear to be the so called Classic+ that people have been begging for.This is it, this is their next 20 year plan. If it does well then they'll end retail with a lore inappropriate ending and shepherd the players to Forever, if it does poorly they'll drop it in the bin with the rest of their classic versions and keep retail going another 10 years.
The bard profession sounds fun but I think everyone is gonna be that.
>>747607828This is a true post and it's always important to remember that ANY private server players for ANY MMO should be ignored.
>pvp server>dwarf rogue>kill every blue elf on sight
>pvp server>undead rogue>kill every blue elf on sight
>>747608104sorry you can't interact with them unless you've also paid $29.99
>>747594784>tons of information freely available confirming this and people are still speculating like it's all rumorsyou people are fucking hopeless
I will invite skyggers to the group and then kick them out
>>747590969>you can already see the cracks formingthis game is doomed, the devs will not be able to hold back their retarded tendencies, this game will end up as retail minus, if it isnt there already.
>looks like night elf in trailer>is a blood elf in gamei wanted to play a horde night elf bros...
>>747608104>>747608137Based
>>747608104Dwarves are jewish stereotypes packaged into a race with a scottish accent. Blue elves are aryans from hyperborea sent to conquer Azeroth. You won't do shit.
>>747606342nah theyre going the sod approachat the end all professions were competitive and every phase had craftable bis gear and consumables that could be upgradedevery phase added something new making every profession valuableexcept engineering, cause engineering deserved to be shit on
>>747608227not really you're being really melodramatic
>>747608339If the sky elf lore was actually that based and not some gay not wanting to be bad and making friends with windfag elementals, I would be willing to overlook that they feel like a retail race dropped in a classic setting.
>>747608497you're being really melodramatic
Haven't played wow in over a decade, do I need to buy every expansion to play retail or does the latest expansion get me everything? Are all the different versions of wow behind the same subscription and do they have wow tokens in all of them?
I could generate hundreds of millions of dollars for Blizzard if they'd hire me as a consultant.
>>747608593that's what we got already.
>>747608593The truth anon is that they make far more money catering to people who are not you or I. While your idea would generate hundreds of millions they'll make 10x that adding >>747598631 to the game.
>>747605917The tooltip says it's only reagents you buy from vendors, blinding powder should, in theory, still require fadeleaf.
>>747608593me toohttps://files.catbox.moe/ddgm3z.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ddgm3z.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ddgm3z.mp4
You know this shit will die in less than a year? right?
>>747608696Wrong. Normalfags are confused, are (rightfully) going hurrr durrr why da elf blue me angry.
>>747608821According to Classic players it's about the journey, not the destination.
>>747608839All it takes is one streamer to say blue elf good and they'll fall in line.
>>747608104You can only attack the ones on the opposite faction.
>>747608696>The truth anon is that they make far more money catering to people who are not you or I.They're not catering to those people though, they're catering to mazed autistic whales, the fanbase of Retail is incredibly small
>>747608873Yeah, that's why it would die in less than a year. This is retail minus.
>>747608821they'll release a new "season" for it within a year, and the goldfish brained 37 year old millennial dadgamers will eat that shit up for the 10th time or whatever the fuck Bl*zzard is at with re-re-re-re-relaunching classic WoW
>>747608696they make most of their money selling gold to the women and gays who buy boosts every patch cycle. the gold selling economy is so massive, when it was still illegitimate even steve bannon and epstein were on that shit.
>>747608998Classic dies in three weeks tops because that's how long it takes for most people to hit 60.
>faction identity destroyed from day 1even if we go "well they're just high elves under a different name" that these guys are going to be running around in the horde as well as the alliance is a crime
>>747609072It's a shame every online game is like this today, god it's so fucking boring.
wow is back and whites are excitedbrowns are dooming (they cant afford the sub or new race)
What do you all think the best spec for a resto druid is going to be? Right now I just have 11/0/40.
>>747609226I think it depends on the gear available and context of which the druid is being piloted.
>>747608821Plenty of time to level one of each class to flex on 9-to-5 jobbers in my guild
>>747608593Pitch your best lgbt quest and I will consider it.
This is how anyone who is still defending WoW looks
>>747609113All races should start off neutral be allowed to choose their faction + starting zone. Also separate races with different attributes being a thing is already kind of problematic.
>>747609389>employeddoubt it m8
huhhhh since when did wow require a phone number
>this entire threadhorde in absolute shambles
>>747609371Fag quest giver needs you to find his boyfriend at the nearby gay bar that is full of interracial men fucking each other, and also loot his prized dildo from "queen" troon (who uses the abomination model). Rewards 69,000 exp and 69 gold.
>>747609371>Collect 5 heads of lettuce>Collect 1 jar of garlic spread>Collect 10 Tomatoes>Collect 5 Bacon stripes (Kill Boars)>Collect 2 Bread slices (Buy bread from vendor and use knife)Reward: 5 Sandwiches that increase Spirit and Stamina
I kinda feel tempted to sub for it, wow was the only mmo that hooked me besides star wars galaxies, but idk I don't want gaming to feel like a job.
It's 60 cap WoW with custom content added, what did you retards think it was going to be? Kek
>>747609371Undead paladin class quest>Cult of the Damned is infecting Lordaeron survivors with HIV which turns them into Scourge>Your mission is to kill all the possed humans as well as the necromancers
>>747609113it would be easier to swallow if they make one faction blue and the other one human coloredthe way it is right now is just too retarded
>>747586795Because there's like 15 high elves in existence and everyone is going to play them
>>747609642I thought they would fire the women and trannies and get high T white men to make the game again.
Camera confirmed
>>747608821Perfect! I don't plan to pay a monthly subscription for more than 3 months anyway.
Why didn't they just add blood elves and draenei
>>747585490Yeah, forever.I decided to end my sub. Forever.
>>747589968The constellation of circumstances which led to OSRS being successful cannot be replicated, it was lightning in a bottle.People forget that OSRS was effectively torn from the jaws of death by like three devs who were actual literal true believers in the cause and not just Jagex employees doing their hours. I just don't think Blizzard has any of those developers left anymore, they all fled years ago.This is a doomed endeavor.
>>747609468they do it for free
The title WoW Forever implies a certain firm established version of the game with high amounts of replayability and well established mechanics and so on.These dual-faction sky elves just don't fit! Taking them and everything related to them out, would improve the game, taking a huge chunk of content out would make the game better. It kind of has Halo Campaign Evolved prequel mission vibes. It doesn't fit. Why don't they know that?
This isn't Classic Plus, this is just Retail Minus
>>747586795Because in order to maintain horde numbers they need the "high elves" to be on the horde.A good portion of WoW players are tolkienist retards that want humans and elves to be on the same faction. But they are somehow super specific about it. Night Elves?Void Elves? The splash of purple is enough to ruin them in the eyes of these retards.It's why this donut OC race will flop. All people want is the most generic fantasy elf imaginable.
>>747609371>Defend stormwind orphanage from three waves of men in dresses>Throw burning torches and powder kegs inside barbershop, liquor store and flower shop
>>747610034correctin fact, it speedruns many of the things that fucked up retailit literally has a headstart on enshittification
>>747608821so will we probablymight as well go out having fun
Does the lore facilitate the potential for sky elves or is this some thing they pulled out of their own ass
>>747609983>Why don't they know that?They know exactly what they're doing. Modern Blizz is essentially a mobile developer who happens to have an existing PC game library from 20 years ago.
>>747610056Bro you're being literally Hitler right now. This might make us gain money, not lose it. Fail.
>>747609887another easier simple alternative they could have gone with would be draenei + high elf (alliance), blood elf + eredar (horde). the eredar are red and hate the draenei, shit writes itself.
I bought the Skyborne Epic Pack
>>747605954>how is that disney?The bear in the cutscene makes eyes at the hunter, like a Disney creature.
>>747609759Actually a bit over hundred thousand according to old lore sources, mostly in Stormwind and Dalaran, though some followed Jaina west and some were in Hinterlands. I'm just going to assume Arthas killed like 6 gorillion of them and a couple hundred thousand survived, followed Kael, and redubbed themselves Blood Elves.
>>747610115They're highborne that hide in Skywall to avoid the sundering.It's an ass pull but no more of one than the Nightborne.
>>747609759>WC3>Zero tauren druids exist>WoW>Apparently enough tauren druids exist to justify them be playable
YOU GUYS HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR AN ELF RECOLOR???? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA *breathes in* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHA
>>747610334Same bestie
>>747603483I haven't seen this in 20 years, holy shit
>>747610334I was considering it just for beta access, but Fire Emblem releases the same day, and I'd rather play that.
>>747585490They almost drew me back in to the slop addiction until I saw it cost $30 to play a color swapped blood elf.They just couldn't fucking help themselves could they. Never again will I pay for a blizzard product.
>>747610357
>>747608821you pay by the month of access, so a shorter lived game is cheaper and better.
>>747610467You will buy it anyway>>747610516You will buy it anyway>>747610145You will buy it anyway
>>747610036Horde is over populated on most classic servers because their racials are stronger.
>>747607828What if I hate paying a sub AND I hate blizzard?
>>747605228Look at how they fucked up Felwood lmao
>>747610036more like it is a race that is fundamental to warcraft that has been present all throughout WoW, and blizzard is ridiculously obtuse about it. always trying to find every way around making them playable, even making up absurd retarded bullshit, twice.. they're so bad about it that even normies have noticed.
UD pally mount...they won
>>747610552Sure thing Metzen. But I actually won't. So. I have NEVER paid a single dollar in your cash shop and I will not pay $30 for a modded version of WoW, that sucks.
>>747610638that looks very classic
>>747610467Another ruined series :(
>>747610638>UD pallyYou mean DK?
Well anonPVE, PVP, RP or RP-PVP?
Did they make rogues combo points not target specific now?
>>747610724@grok Shutdown this clown
>>747610771RP probably, and then flag for wpvp sometimes.It's all just 1 mega server anyways.
>>747610824yeah so a rogue could just have 5 combo points stored up and open with a full kidney on your butt
>>747610771whatever has the lowest ping for west coast. I'm so sick if trying to pvp at 65ms
>>747610684It's more Catacylsm or Mist of Pandaria era looking. They can't make original looking WoW stuff anymore.
>>747610771Rppvp is not a thing
>>747610771pvp because I'm not a scrub
>>747610908Nice
I have a feeling sky elves will actually be cool
Retail enshittification>achievements3-4 years after launch>phasing~4 years after launch>quest helper5 years after launch>transmogrification7 years after launch>account wide 8 years after launch>Disneyfied character models10 years after launch>garishly colored "totally not high elf" blood elf oc donutsteel reskin race that rapes lore14 years after launch>ugly nu-wow UI overhaul18 years after launch>ugly mishmash of mobileslop nu-wow art assets with oldschool art assets8 to 18 years after launchWorld of Warcraft Forever enshittification>achievements0 days after launch>phasing0 days after launch>quest helper0 days after launch>transmogrification0 days after launch>account wide 0 days after launch>Disneyfied character models0 days after launch>garishly colored "totally not high elf" blood elf oc donutsteel reskin race that rapes lore0 days after launch>ugly nu-wow UI overhaul0 days after launch>ugly mishmash of mobileslop nu-wow art assets with oldschool art assets0 days after launch
>>747610969Nah, that looks straight out of Legion (and that's a good thing for paladin horses)
>>747610975Isn't it, I thought it was confirmed in the list
>>747599902Im just a coomer and I wanted goblinas
>>747610638Hmmph..cool
>>747610969That looks like something you might find in retail.In act, I think it uses the Legion undead horse model underneath the armor.
Phasing is a necessary evil. Everybody wants to play on the cool realms. Therefore they will have massive population that will make quests unplayable. This logic was then extended to the realmless thing, which also makes sense despite having some drawbacks.
You'll all be eating your words when the monkey's paw curls.>"Finally! That wokeshit is dea-">"BRO! I TURNED YOUR WARCRAFT INTO GOONIFIED WEEBSHIT!"
I didn't get to watch much of blizzcon. Did they say what is happening with the TBC and MoP servers in the future?
Not reading your redditfrog posts
>>747611152>goonified weebshit is worse than wokeshit ackchaullyI wonder who could be behind this.
>>747611191But you did read them, in fact you read it multiple times to make that image. Gaped.
>>747611191You'd better filter this one too
>>747611035Yeah blizzard's single biggest problem is giving in to the loudest minority and abandoning their vision to please them
>>747611276Look blizzard just can't make a classic+ without adding another blood elf race in there HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO MAKE MONEY and CATER TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT A PRETTY RACE?(as if that isn't proving the point)
>>747611152>goonifiedI don't use tiktok nor am I underage so I do not know what this meansWoW is a game for adults please keep that in mind when you post in these threads
>>747611226It isn't. I just find it funny.
>>747611056Only PvE, PvP, RP and HC. Maybe you can mix and match them, I'm not sure
>>747611276They should just sell the IP to disney and let them make movies about it. Also they could do a mickey mouse themed azeroth expansion like that kingdom hearts game.
The game's quality is inverse to the amount of playable elves
I don't know if you guys saw, but they changed various items in the game, like quest items that used to be green are given more stats and made blues.It's so stupid.Should have just gone the safe path with Classic+. Which for the most part they did, expect for changing the original zones and adding a stupid new race and apperenso now you're gonna just split people into1. Modern WoW2. Classic Wow3. Private Servers4. Forever WoWThe fact they can milk this game so much proves how great it was.
>>747610616>A race fundamental to warcraftThat joined the Horde.The entire idea of the blood elf was Blizzard trying to kill off their "generic" elements with the third RTS, the one that basically tried to turn Orcs into green dindu nuffins. The boring, generic elves got raped so hard they came back edgy and satanic but keeping with their golden, haughty aesthetic; they got a new name and a new purpose and Kael was going to turn outland into some new magic promise land where they could eat demons.Now of course they had to do a few asspulls to get them to join Thrall's horde much like the night elves on the alliance and this resulted in a few legacy characters that simply wouldn't make sense being with the Horde, so a few characters like the living Windrunners remained part of the alliance and being cut off from their population never got into fel consumption.But this is on par with humans from a neutral kingdom or faction, nothing constituting a race.The main take away is blood elves were the high elves. Alliance Players don't want high elves on the horde, so they exaggerate a few factions like Vereesa the human cock-sleeves army of human-fucking Dalaranian elves as justification to keep fucking asking for it knowing full well it would fuck up the game.The Void Elves were literally an experiment to prove just how autistic these players are about it.>No No the Void Elves should be on the horde!
Do I have to have an active sub to play in the beta?
>>747611412I just want my NE amazons. I don't care about any of the other elves.
>>747611556You need to buy the $60 skyborne pack for beta access
>>747599667WhySome people like the new models some people want the original stuff. Whats the harm in giving people a toggle?>But I wanted blurry low res armour in 2026!
>>747611624Yeah I get that, I don't need a subscription as well then?
>>747611681Yes
>>747600283>>747600386Silvermoon elves that got kicked out for studying Void magic
Everyone just wanted Classic WoW with better graphics and maybe a few quality-of-life improvementsNot... This abomination
>>747611681The $60 pack comes with a subscription. It is not possible for an account to have one without the other, so this is a pointless consideration. You'd make a great ret paladin or hunter player btw.
>Classic is now troonifiedYou did it wowfags! You won!
>>747611843The $60 subscription starts on launch in November, not right away.
>>747611898F-fuck.... maybe I'm the ret paladin player....
>>747611851Don't make fun of my forever home.
>>747588335>classic fags proved they will never be happy with classic no matter what is or isn't done with it.This here is the gigaton trvke that all the little faggots whining in these threads simply can't accept. Considering there was some asshole the other day legit arguing that it's "not classic" because tank spec paladin has a taunt now and can actually tank worth shit, I'd say blizzard 100% made the right call in not listening to anyone.
>>747611851Dwarves are so fucking cool Too bad I'm too much of a gooner and always pick elves.
>>747586795>>747610616How many times do you retards need to be told>High elves completely and utterly decimated in WC3>Whats left christen themselves blood elves and join the horde because blizz wrote the alliance to be asshole fucks to them throughout wc3 AND tbc:>Garithos sees the elves coming to them for help from the undead, says "Hey human, we were allies hundreds of years ago, founded the kirin tor and taught you guys magic, can we help each other out again?">Garithos: "Fucking faggot knife ears... go guard the suicide flank for us">High elves are about to be fucking rekt and the naga of all races offers to help, take it on the grounds they would die otherwise>Garithos sees this and declares grand trason, imprisons the high elves along with their prince, orders their executionA human military official treating the leader and royal prince of the high elves like this should be grounds for elves walking away from the humans on it's own. But then>Eversong Woods story>Night Elves and dwarves have sent spies in, pretending to be friendly envoys, to gather intel on their magic and kingdom and are shit talking them in their reportsThere is zero reason for high elves to ever be alliance. The only ones that are have an incredibly high degree of patience for asshole "allies" and there was only a small handful of them left.
>>747612005All you have to do is not add blue elves and retail features, but that is impossible mode for blizzard.
>>747612061Sorry, Blizzard absolutely fucked up here by not adding playable High Elves(and also by charging money for a playable race)
>>747611775>Classic WoW with better graphics and a few QoL improvementsyou have that already
>Hipster Retail
>>747612081The "blue elves" are quite literally the most popular race in the game in retail (blood and void elves). That race is their golden goose and is insanely popular. They couldn't add high elves to alliance and not add an equal looking race to horde without creating a massive faction population imbalance considering night elves are the 2nd most popular race in the game.Blood elves were made specifically to balance population concerns and give the massive "I want a pretty humanoid character" crowd something to play on Horde side. This is an overwhelming majority of the chinese playerbase, a huge customer of blizz's.You can't just "not add the blue elves"
>>747612331>They couldn't add high elves to allianceYes they could, it would be very easy to do so in fact
>>747612061The ones left might as well be considered half-elven mutts.
>>747612331>You can't just "not add the blue elves"
>>747612331>You can't just "not add the blue elves"You can, in fact, just not add the blue elvesLiterally no one asked for the OC donut steel elves, everyone wanted High Elves, Blizzard is retarded
>>747612196You do realise skyborne and high elves are the same raceThey have the same model and same customisation options. They have the exact same ancestry lore wise (highborn expelled from night elven society)The only difference is high elves setup in quel'thalas and got genocided. Skyborne fucked off to the elemental plane and lived in safety. What do Quel Thalas high elves offer that skybabbies dont?
>>747612061>The only ones that areJust make these retarded race traitor ones playable on the Alliance instead of inventing void elves 2.0?
>>747612061>>747612196High Elves and Blood Elves should be doing what the Sky Elves are LARPing. Have it where those out of the kingdom have come and are attempting to help the recovery efforts of Quel'thalas and secure the defence against the Scourge. Kael'thas can later show up and be a proper character in dealing with the faction conflict between those loyal to the Alliance and those favoring the help and resources that the Horde can provide.
>>747612365>>747612404Oh I mean I guess you could, if you were retarded and wanted to lose money and players and cause population imbalances>>747612425See >>747612489They are the same race biologically.
>>747612489>You do realise skyborne and high elves are the same raceI want to play as the High Elves that you can meet in Loch Modan and the Plaguelands, not this OC Donut Steel race(which they're CHARGING FOR???)
>>747612365>>747612404The Tolkien fags don't like any paint on their high elves.When you understand a portion of the playerbase even after 20 year of playing don't follow the lore and want to dollhouse generic Tolkien DND shit you know exactly why they still beg for High Elves.These are literally the people that would love generic Korean MMO tolkien fantasy slop with borderline zero lore, but found themselves addicted to WoW.
>>747612081Is being able to tank on a paladin or druid a "retail feature" too, nigga?
>>747612495>Just make the retarded race traitor ones playable instead of void elvesThat I 100% agree with. Void elves was just blizzard pulling shit out of their ass and one of their "mistakes" of recent years. And its probably shit like void elves that prompted them to go back to the simplified setting of wow forever.
How are they going to contain streamers and their faggot follows if there aren't any realms?
>>747612061There are a lot of races that are a "handful" in the context of the lore. Tauren and Gnomes are coming off the heels of genocides. Orcs are kids from slave concentration camps. Trolls were a small tribe on an island that Thrall met in warcraft 3. The Draenei are some refugees on one ship. It doesn't matter.
>>747612669Hopefully clicking RP will disable layering and ecelebniggers.
>>747612625Anon the ones you meet there are literally the only ones.The rest are all up north dead in quel'thalas from the scourage invasion that the alliance refused to help them with. Why would whoever is left of them want to join the alliance?Unless you wanna go back in time and write out that whole garithos part in WC3 and have the humans form a valiant rescue attempt and save the elven kingdom from falling to the scourge. But then you're just rewriting the last couple acts of WC3 completely.
>>747612575>Oh I mean I guess you could, if you were retarded and wanted to lose money and players and cause population imbalancesActually if I wanted to do that, I'd charge $30 for an ass-pull race that literally nobody asked for
>>747607661>foundational races>no playable Goblin>no playable high elfyou are misinformed.
>>747612793>Anon the ones you meet there are literally the only ones.So now they're rebuilding their race, which is the perfect opportunity for a neutral playable race, you fucking retard
>>747612793Seems more realistic than undead paladins
>>747612793>Why would whoever is left of them want to join the alliance?And why would they want to join the Horde, which are literally harboring the Undead?That's why they'd be a NEUTRAL race, they have reasons to be way of both factions, you absolute RETARD
>>747612872>Mage gets scourged>Becomes a skeleton mage>Paladin gets scourged>Becomes a zombie paladinMakes complete sense.
>>747612945>Paladin gets scourgedThey have a whole class built around this.
>>747612945>Paladin gets scourged>Becomes a zombie paladin>diesftfy
>>747613095No they do not. Arthas wasn't never undead. Becoming a DK is an entirely different process.
>>747613162that's what he said. your mistake for assuming he meant arthas.
>>747613162All death knights get raised from the dead in the starting zone.
>>747613321>WC2, WC3, and WotLK DKs are differentok
>>747612945>Human Paladin gets scourged>gets reborn into a waking nightmare working for monsters and hunting humans>when they finally die they go straight to hellMakes complete sense!
>>747612872>>747613127You know it was never actually expanded upon why undead were weak to holy damage in the setting, It was always kind of an assumption following RPG logic. Even blizzards explanation for how Undead can use holy seems like something presupposed outside of anything in the lore.It's like blizzard kind of forgot it's not a real world rule or something and got so used to RPG logic that it was just assumed to be a part of their actual lore.I mean, Paladins aren't paladins because they're anti-undead. They're actually, if anything, an anti-demon unit from the 2nd war going by classic lore. Priests trained in arms that could be effective against demons and orcs (not that blizzard, even to this day, has explained why holy hurts demons/fel shit either).
>>747611851PET THE HECKIN BORKERINOTHE WHOLESOME PUPPERTHE FLOOFY WOOFER
>>747613516kek
>>747613523They can use holy because horde needs more than one healer race. I always assumed in the lore they were shadow priests and that the holy light killed all undead if they got near it.
>>747585490If she gently fondles my balls with her feet FOREVER, I wouldn't mind
>>747613687It's basically like this>Forsaken are harmed by light. Priests channel the light, but don't use it all the time as it's more using the body as a conduit to uplift, heal or damage depending on it's need.>Paladins channel the light within them, imbuing their strikes and bodies with the light to harm and protect at the same time.Forsaken Paladin is basically akin to lighting yourself on fire IRL to do more damage.
>>747603727>Draenei will never crash land on AzerothTrue, because they stole th Exodar from Netherstorm which Kael'thas was in charge of and Kael'thas blood elves shot it down>Never be a fel orc army that rises up thanks to IllidanNo, Fel Orcs existed before Illidan, and its because of Magtheridon, not Illidan>literally genocides almost a billion Draenei and makes roads and buildings of their bonesNo, the Draenei were genocided and roads and buildings made from their bones was before Illidan arrived in Outland, it was when the orcs first drank Mannoroth's blood. Its anazing how confidently wrong so many of you wowfag larpers are
>>747613687They never gave a lore reason, the holy light skill just hurts undead enemies in WC III.
>>747599583Ascension was literally slop Also idk why you guys are mad the ascension team and the turtle team are now both making their own MMO’s it’s literally a good thing
>>>/a/290932775>>>/a/290932777>>>/a/290932802>>>/a/290932803Do you think you will ever move on with your life and stop endlessly seething about people on 4chan calling you a shitposter?Really, !Akemi. How did you fuck your life up THIS badly.No, linking multiple posts from a spammer is not abnormal.You spamming so insanely hard when you get told to stop shitposting is what's abnormal.No, you are not owed "the last word", or a safe space because you shitpost on purpose.
>>747614452Ayo this crazy ass nigga plays WoW too?
>>747613985>Paladins channel the light within themForsaken have no light within them they are purely an evil race and that's how it should be.
