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Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever and save PC gaming? What happened? What went wrong?
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posted from your poor android phone
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>>747586054
over one thousand dollars
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hardware price kerfuffle
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>>747586054
same thing that just caused all hardware to skyrocket in price.
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>>747586054
I got one and replaced my tower with it. I get great performance on less tdp, which is great with the heatwaves we got this summer.
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I remember this board said tge same thing with the original steambox in 2014
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what are you talking about? no one uses consoles other than old people and children
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>>747586054
Ram prices delayed it then made the price increase and other shit
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever and save PC gaming?
No, it was never marketed to consolefags and PC chads already own a rig.
>1300 bucks for $500 hardware
kek
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>>747586304
Only fat losers use PCs
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>>747586054
in theory if the ram/computer part prices didn't go insane, we'd have a decent console for $800.
its was a good idea but they probably should have shelved it after realizing prices weren't going to normalize.
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1130 dollars for a piece of shit hardware thats less powerful than a base ps5 and doesnt have the comfort of a console, what a console killer.
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>>747586489
did you wake up from a 2004 coma? every PC fag is a skeleton now. asmongold looks like aushwitz.
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>>747586489
beyond cope
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they waited way too long to release it. its rdna3 not even rdna3.5 or rdna4. rdna3 came out in 2022.
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>>747586382
Can (You) build a better PC for the same price then?
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>>747586704
Define better? Because you are going to skimp somewhere to meet your target? Buff the GPU? Now you got slower CPU and RAM. viceversa.
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>>747586781
Better Performance.
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>>747586950
Better performance in what area though? For example your RTX 5090 can have worse latency than a PS2 at the same FPS. 58.0MS latency is more than triple the frame latency of 60fps.
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>>747586304
>and children
Nigga, what year do you live in? Because if you're up to date, PC is the cool thing and has been the cool thing for a while now among kids.
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>>747586950
Just say you're clueless bro.
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>>747586054
>still on the waitlist
What went wrong is I CAN'T EVEN BUY ONE
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>>747586054
wouldve at 750
scam altman and zognald blumf and bitchson huang killed it
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>>747587228
That litte fucker is out of line, but he's not wrong. PC would have been cooler.
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>>747586054
Price rendered it basically DOA.
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>>747587335
>Just say you're clueless bro.
Just say you can't do it bro.
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>>747586054
>Save PC gaming
PC's not dead just 'cause you can't afford one.
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>>747586054
Valve dropped the ball so hard on the pricing that my friend got a PS5 pro instead and trooned out.
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>>747587635
same except my friend didn't buy a PS5 Pro.
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>>747588441
Yeah they bought a Switch 2
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>>747586054
Just buy a Gaming Laptop instead honestly.
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>>747587617
Pricing out everyone isn't good
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Gabe is a moron. Should have sold it with a loss and cover it with game sales. Would gain easy customers in times were everything is expensive. With enough market share developers couldn't ignore linux anymore.
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I think it's neat!! I think I'm going to reinstall Medieval Total War.

>>747586549
>and doesnt have the comfort of a console,
But it has a controller... What other comfort is there?
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>>747589146
He would rather buy another yatch for 2 billion kek
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>>747586054
I heard it's selling well, that they aren't making enough to meet demand
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>>747590691
Proofs?
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>>747587228
Ungrateful little shit, but it's not his fault, the parents clearly fucking failed teaching them about responsibilities and boundaries, spoiling the shit out of them. Also a PC would have been cooler.
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>>747586054
linux was supposed to kill windows 30 years ago too
it’s still a buggy unusable mess that you have to manually fix yourself
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>>747591141
I don't have any. As I said, it's only what I head.I was hoping someone here would know
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>>747592237
....the entire internet has basically always run on Linux. It wasn't supposed to kill windows. It has always been for servers
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever and save PC gaming?
it was not
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No. It was just supposed to get more people into Steam.
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>>747592237
it's not going to do so overnight, faggot
windows has a fuckload of inertia despite being dogshit
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>>747586206
Shit, its that zip Anon...
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>>747586054
Oh right, I forgot this was a thing
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>>747586054
Literally blame AI datacenters and flock cameras for everything getting more expensive
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>>747586054
Overpriced 2x to 3x
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not like there will be a new console in the next 5 years
maybe they optimize games now
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>>747586054
It probably was supposed to be closer to 600 bucks before the insane components price jump, so I can't blame Valve on that, they really got fucked over
And if they said not to the new prices, they would have being abandoned by their resellers, so it was really the only way.
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>>747593182
This is the worst fucking part
>games run like shit, look like shit
>surely they'll optimize their games
>NO GOY, BUY THE 2000 DOLLAR GRAPHICS CARD, AI WILL DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING, THE 6090 WILL GET YOU 45FPS WITH DLSS5!!
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>>747593298
Gaming isn't for poorfags like you anymore (and that's a good thing)
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>>747593529
Spiritually consolefag PC users are the worst. Optimization is good for everyone
>anime reaction image
Indian
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>>747587228
Why would a kid want a pc though? Not saying the ps5 is good, but to a kid that just wants to play games, what would he want a pc for?
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever
Valve can't "kill" consoles, only win a war of attrition.
>and save PC gaming?
PC gaming is immortal. Prices are in the stratosphere and people are still buying parts.
>What happened?
AI
>What went wrong?
Releasing a gaming PC during the biggest tech boom ever.
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>>747592665
>>747592995
even the excuses are the same as back then
if you could program as well as you cope, you could bugfix at least half of the known and have-to-google-the-copy-paste-solution bugs
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This thing got panned at launch and a few weeks later the same people switched to praising it. I don't get it.
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>>747593642
Anime website
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>>747594007
Linus is a total fucking retard who doesn't understand how Linux works, and thinks every single distro is a from the ground up Operating system unto itself.
He thinks KDE on Ubuntu is a completely different DE than KDE on Arch
He thanked Mint for THEIR AMD drivers being so good despite them being the fucking same as Bazzite.
So when he started using the steam machine and it was a very easy basic Linux system he thanked Valve for their work on KDE, he isnt worth taking seriously when he shits on the steam machine, he isnt worth taking seriously when he praises the steam machine. It's like asking your pet cat what their opinion on TurboTax is
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>>747589413
I can connect a controller to my pc and it doesnt suddenly stop wanting driver updates or needing to download and log in to seperate launchers for epic games, ea, ubisoft, rockstar, blizzard games. i have gta5/rdr2, genshin, ghost recon, overwatch,fortnite installed on my ps5. only those games alone would need 5 seperate launchers on pc
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>>747593823
Because you guys bully kids for phoneposting here
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>>747589413
> But it has a controller... What other comfort is there?
I don’t know? Like no troubleshooting all the fucking time and no fiddling of graphics settings for an hour when you start a new game.
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>>747586054
The ram and storage crisis killed what would otherwise be a brilliant product before it even had a chance to shine. Had circumstances been different and this released at $499 AS VALVE HAD ALWAYS INTENDED this would 100% have killed PlayStation and Xbox off
If you've any doubts, proof is still there, neaely 100% of the owners are very satisfied with their machines, something Sony and Microsoft can't say about their closed garden systems
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>>747593823
In japan a computer costs like twice of what it costs in the US or the EU, so their best bet is to go with a console, also, most japanese people are computer illiterate and in programming the people who know how to do it are usually on the same level as indians in the sense they shouldn't be doing it, that's why the latest AAA jap games have been complete unoptimized garbage, only nintendo seemingly knows how to do vidya with a limited performance budget anymore.
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever and save PC gaming?
Nobody said this.
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>>747594695
The steam deck at release was an impeccable device and frankly still would be if sold at its release price.
>but I can spend twice as much for an ally!
Then do that, but for what the steam deck does its second to none as an all-rounder with a great UX, and I'm sure the steam machine would be much the same if they were able to come in under 800 bucks for it
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>>747586054
The industry was what went wrong and it should've been cancelled along with a dramatic speech with fuckings to AI.
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>>747594792
Only /v/ for three months straight. Until the price dropped
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>>747593962
linux is at the point where all it needs is official support from third parties
all its problems are external, not internal, it's a great OS that kike corpos aren't willing to accommodate
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Only trannies use Linux BTW
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>>747595030
trannies are white
the ceo of microsoft and "people" who make windows aren't
enjoy the decay, brownoid, it's not getting better
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>>747595290
Most linux users are Indians
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>>747587350

first non-shill comment
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>>747586054
>He fell for the ((console war)) propaganda
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why not build a 9060xt pc and install steamOS on it? double the performance and not much more expensive
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>>747595358
also wrong, 11th according to flathub despite being the most numerous country on the planet
per capita they're among the lowest
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>>747586054
Does Valve even know why they made it?
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>>747593529
>please hardware companies keep jewing me
suit yourself anon. you know 50% of steam is brown people and they're not giving up on games right?
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>>747586054
I bought one. Received it a week ago or so; I didn't open the box yet.
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>>747595708
America and Europe are full of Indians
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>>747586054
Gabe is just dumb. He had this idea like a decade ago and decided to offload this to 3rd parties without a dedicated OS in a time when PCs were relatively cheap. This didn't go well. He then doubled down with the Steamdeck, a much better idea, but too clunky to be a good handheld and at the same time as the Switch released (better form factor, exclusives etc). Valve got a footing with this and when the time came to do a proper PC/Console thing, they've dragged on for too long and released in a time of memory and GPU shortage and price hikes.
I don't care for the box. I'd buy it, if it was like 400 bucks, just to have a small factor thing to hook up to a TV and play my part in feeding an ecosystem that forces companies to optimize for a specific hardware range, but not at this price, not with the availability wait times. It's way too late, way to expensive and again way too late to make an impact as something on devs consider a proper platform to optimize for. Which was the whole idea to begin with.

As a gaming box that is compact and hooks up to a TV, you can get a laptop with equal performance at about the same price which will do the same. Hell, I bought a an Asus G14 back in 2020, put Bazzite on it and it's basically the Steambox, only not actually a box and not running SteamOS.

The truth is, while competitors compalin about Valve "monopoly" the reality is that Valve has been sitting on their ass doing fuck all for years, while they could have pushed Sony and MS out of business a long time ago. All they needed to do was make the Steam Machine way back when, have like 10 outstanding titles run well on it and have a stable Linux distro running this shit (inb4 anything, no! fucking Arch is not a stable distro, I run that shit and pure laziness stops me from moving to something like Fedora).
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>>747596157
now you've moved to cope
why would those jeets not be using windows?
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>>747587228
>@PCGAMING instagram
good lord imagine following console wars bullshit on normalfag social media. besides, what an ungrateful kid. even if the PS5 is a piece of shit he should be thanking his parents
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>>747591141
I've been on the waiting list for 4 months and scalpers are selling it for twice the price on ebay. Seems like there's absolutely a demand for the device
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>>747596302
I would unironically kms if I had snoyim parents
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>it would have DESTROYED consoles if it sucked dick but was also cheap!
no it wouldn't have, even the switch 2 can run games better and it a lot less of a hassle. cheap doesn't inherently mean good, you can buy cheap toilet paper but it fucks your asshole
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>>747596489
The Shitch Poo runs games at 480i @15fps KEK
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>>747586054
At that price they should have just went all in on a $2k machine with decent specs
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>>747596569
I was just playing mario kart at 1440p 60fps, steam machine can't even play games at 1080p 60fps without the worst looking fsr
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>>747594695
You are delusional bro. Just because you use Steam doesn't mean everyone else does
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>>747586054
Valve went woke
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>>747596489
Sure, lmao. Just say you're too retarded for freedom.
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>>747596737
You can't even enjoy that with all the ghosting on your slow-ass screen. You got shilled.
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>>747592057
Fuck you faggot what if he wants to own his games with gog or piracy
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>>747596886
>Fuck you faggot what if he wants to own his games with gog or piracy
Children don't care about retarded crap like that but Manchildren do
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>>747596963
He definitely cares about having access to the most games, though.
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>>747596963
When I was in middleschool I found vice city, San andreas and postal 2 on mega upload from YouTube videos. He was trying to save his mom money retard
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>>747594723
does this fucking kid look jap to you?
>>747587228
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>>747597059
he's just gonna play fortnite and roblox lets not kid ourselves here
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>>747586489
>only fat losers use nintendo
ftfy
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>>747597232
You are 100% coping because consoles are losing ground amongst normies and children. I discovered Sim City 4 and Caesar 3 when I was 12.
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>>747597327
Whos he trying to be with that peace sign is that some shit mario does
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>>747597358
20 years ago
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>>747596884
The TV screen has ghosting?
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>>747596819
I have a very good and very free personal computer, but I still think the switch 2 is leagues better than the steam machine. 1 badly optimized game doesn't sway me otherwise, most switch 2 games run above 1080p and at 60 fps on the steam machine and without issue.
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>>747597358
i grew up with a pc too my dad was piss poor back in the day but time has changed gen alpha dont care about gta sa or nfs mw now, all they want is roblox and fortnite
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> kill consoles forever
Seems to work, the westoid ones are suiciding on live steam, historically speaking
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever and save PC gaming?
Because only Valve loyalists were trying to push that narrative

>What happened?
It was an idea from seething loyalists

>What went wrong?
Steamies. Since current prices affect every manufacturer currently.
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>>747586304
>he doesn't know

>>747586489
She spoke the truth.
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>>747597327
Was he pretending to react like the camera would on him? I ask because thats how I’d move if I wanted to communicate that. I need to get laid…
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>>747586704
>animeretard
>>>/a/ is that way faggot.
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>>747595290
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>>747598810
>Le racism is le good
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>>747600749

faggot generation
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>>747600749

> lives in whitest part of country, bellevue, washington
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>>747598456
Vtubers will never be anime
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>>747586054
Who told you that? What kind of retard even believes that? It's a computer for your tv.
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On some for real shit though this thing is objectively weaker and has less computing power overall (partly due to its small form factor, can't have it both ways) than a ps5 or Xbox series x. It's a $1080p machine if that's what you're into
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>>747586054
Steamies lost
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>>747601640
>It's a $1080p machine
Isn't that what the series x & PS5 is? Or it's 1440p or something, all I know is the 4k is fake 4k.
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>>747586054
Underpowered and overpriced. Looks cool though.
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>>747587228
Blame the parents here.
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>>747586054
RAM
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>>747586054
Wasn't OP supposed to stop being a retarded faggot and sucking so many dicks? What the hell happened?
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>>747586304
Modern kids don't give a shit about consoles and never have, they're all on phones and pc. Only manchildren are buying consoles.
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>>747597398
Yes. Once you realize Mario is extremely autistic, you never unsee it.
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>>747603943
You lost and got raped
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>>747586054
>What went wrong?
the economy
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>>747593823
My little cousin (he's 9) wants a PC to play Fortnite because he hates using a controller for shooters and wants to play 'competitively'.
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>>747598456
He’s a tranny who watches vtubers
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>>747593823
Because that's where all the games and e-celebs are. Consoles are dying and the only ones who refuse to realize that are console fanboys.
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>>747586054
Most expensive that Pc Prebuils and have the same APU of Deck.
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>>747586265
>>747586275
It really is the price that's stopping it from dominating the market. Not even in a "just make your own that's better for the same price" type of way, things are just too fucked over from AI shit to justify buying a new computer at all.
On the bright side, SteamOS is pretty great and it's a good thing Valve finally put that out for a public release. Especially now because they finally added an option to start in desktop mode by default.
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By the time a new Steam machine comes out, it'll be some ARM powered system running FEX for your games instead. Can't see any other way Valve can make the form factor/cooling solution any more sane despite potential performance losses due to the X86 translation layer.
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>>747593823
everything kids think is 100% dictated by social media. streamers all use pc, therefore they want a pc. all of the games they want to play on pc (fortnite and roblox). there is 0 reason for them to want a console and every reason for them to want a pc.
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I was going to buy one even though I have literally no use for one, I just think it's cool but they won't even sell me one because of the ram shortage.

It's an over priced piece of crap yet I can't even get one
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>>747607586
The breaking point for most kids is when their parents won't buy them console games but they find out that PC can get free games.
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>>747608515
console also has f2p games
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>>747586054
>What went wrong?
Sudden jump in component prices made the unit too expensive for the average customer, making it a niche enthusiast platform rather than the legendary "Linux computer for the masses that will usher in the age of the Linux desktop and overthrow Windows once and for all." Basically the jews ruined it.
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>>747607615
>I was going to buy one even though I have literally no use for one
least brainwashed zogbot consumer in ohio. no wonder they say any publicity is good publicity all you need to do is jingle keys and people will buy them because ummm product
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>>747609826
okay let's say it was cheap, peoples first experience with the pc gaming is a buggy low powered disaster box that needs constant tinkering to make games playable. im sure they wouldn't just immediately go back to their ps5
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>>747609290
>console also has f2p games
Not freemium trash, free games as in software piracy and emulation, ontop of freemium trash like roblox and fortnite.
What kids also don't know at the outset, but will probably discover when they actually sit down to use the damn thing is that they can do basically whatever the hell they want on the computer, whereas consoles are more limited.
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>>747586054
What console is currently alive? I don't see any live consoles in the room, OP. Can you name one?
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>>747610235
>he thinks that kids are pirating games
lol out of touch unc
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What is this editing
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles

Come on now, dude, not even you believe this.
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>>747612786
never underestimate the stupidity of valve shills.
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>>747610235
Freemium trash is what kids play
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>>747610741
Nintendo Switch 2
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>>747586489
im fat and stroking at my pc rn
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>kill consoles forever

Now thats funny.
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>>747587228
I remember being a kid in 2003 and waking up on Christmas to a gamecube being set up on the big TV with Godzilla Destroy All Monsters Melee. I also got Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Bros Melee, Star Wars Bounty Hunter, and Super Monkey Ball. It was the best Christmas I ever had... My parents really went all out that year.
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>>747586489
Meanwhile, Nintendo fags be like
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>>747586489
>All the PCfags seething
Kek
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>>747586054
>Save PC gaming
Save it from what? Unbridled success?
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>>747587228
Based kid
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>>747615226
Rent free
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>>747614440
lmao, go buy some games, diddler
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>>747586489
honestly every single guy I encounter in my day to day life is skinny enough to be a fucking alien. I call them twiggy aliens.
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>>747596489
>Gimped laptop rtx 2050 with phone cpu
>better perfomance than the gabe cube
I remember when tendies belived they would get rtx 3050 performance and with magic dlss, ps5 perfomance, on a 30 w tablet
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>>747618956
At least we own games
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever and save PC gaming?
According to whom?
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>>747588608
>Just buy a Gaming Laptop instead
which one?
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>>747587228
My mom got me halo 2 for my birthday
I didn't have an xbox
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever and save PC gaming?
no
>What happened?
you made up shit in your head and made a retarded thread about your hallucinated headcanon
>What went wrong?
your whore mother forgot to abort you
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>>747587228
poor kid, imagine having retarded parents, grim shit
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>>747600749
racism IS good. it gets rid of subhumans like you
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>>747623058
It's funny to me that you think that.
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>>747626690
Steamie seething his shitbox flopped kek
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>>747627086
If that were true the internet wouldn't be flooded with Indians
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>>747586054
I bought one. It's not as powerful as I'd like but otherwise I'm pretty happy with it (mind you I'm well-off). Right now I'm playing Mario Galaxy on it, using the controller trackpad to point as the wiimote would.
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>>747588608
No ventilation room the overheat
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>>747586054
how can a console kill consoles and save PC gaming? are you taking the piss?
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>>747586054
This thing should be like $699 tops, but thanks to tech jews and AI niggardry thats no longer the case
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They will deny it, but everyone who was in these threads remembers all these posts shilling that piece of shit
>It's going to be $300, it's OBVIOUS they'll make it cheap by selling at a loss and making a deal with amd for cheap parts
>it will be more powerful than the ps5 pro
>the form factor is totally not a gimmick, it's a good thing that they made it worse performance per price in exchange for uh... being easier to fit in a car if you're taking it... somewhere I guess
>if you don't believe my copes you're a console warrior
and as always reality hit them like a wall and their best cope is trying to deny and forget it happened, gabe dicksuckers are pathetic
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>weaker than consoles
>more expensive than consoles
>temu-tier product just like the 'eck
Yeah you gotta do a bit better than that. Consoles my be inferior to PC but they've been carving out their niche for decades
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>>747631368
Trvke nvke
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>gabe has like $500 million literally to burn on random "science yacht" bullshit
>valve has monopolized the gaming platform for like two decades
>makes shit ton of money
>created several of the most iconic games in history
>continues to waste money on VR, gaming controller, attempts at its own tower computer, other random hardware projects that all fail
>STILL not TF3, Portal 3, HL3, L4D3
Why the FUCK won't they just do it? Why do they insist on wasting BILLIONS on R&D and manufacturing for these stupid fucking hardware projects?
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>>747586054
44GB/s CPU bandwidth in 2026

Even the Switch 2 at worse is 68GB/s

Doesn't matter if it's technically double of the deck's IPC, it has half or less of the bandwidth
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>>747633764
ok but what is cpu bandwith and what does 44GB/s mean, and what does IPC mean
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>>747586054
>Wasn't this thing supposed to kill consoles forever and save PC gaming?
No, PC gaming doesn't need "saving", it's to help normies who are too intimidated by the concept to give it a try.
>What happened?
>What went wrong?
The retards at Valve seem to have been about 2 years late to market making the device outdated and underpowered at launch.
To add insult to injury it costs way more than it should have.

Years ago, when Valve launched the Steam Deck they should have launched a PS Vita Home-style with the same motherboard and SoC.
It would have been even cheaper than the Deck, suitable for casual/indie games and emulation, it would allow streaming from a more powerful gaming PC, and have all the conveniences of a home console like HDMI CEC and wake over bluetooth.
It would have been a perfect foot in the door into people's living rooms, and those people who got one could then be upsold a more powerful machine.
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>>747633653
They have their priorities like promoting this
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>>747586054
so mindraped by valve you're making up lies to get upset about lmao. you're so brown
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>>747586054
There has been 1 production run. It has proven that SteamOS is viable. Many have switched to it, if at least only as a dualboot.
As soon as they get the Nvidia hardware support down next year or so, SteamOS will be tip top turbo.

The Steam Machine was only ever the vessel for the OS
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>>747586054
They really should have just sold a significantly cheaper naked BYO storage and RAM option.
I would have 100% grabbed a Steam Machine if it was cheaper and I could just chuck one of my spare SSDs in it while keeping an eye out for a deal on RAM
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>>747633653
>>747631368
>>747634097
You're obsessed AND poor
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I just spent 1k on some speakers. Wouldnt spend 1k on this though
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>>747634268
>if you don't waste money buying a worse computer than what you already have you're poor
are you really that desperate to suck that fat old man's cock?
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>>747634378
Your insecurity is the cherry on top
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Steam game mode is a pain in the ass for third party stores, it's essentially counter to the premise of PC gaming freedom. This gets ignored because people don't want to hear that Valve have a streak of Microsoft style selfishness in them - eg use Xbox controllers or fuck off -> use Steam or fuck off.

The reality is if you need to use desktop mode, you might as well use a real Linux distro on a real PC
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>>747635056
The steam game mode only makes sense on the Steamdeck or on a TV setup.
SteamOS can boot in desktop mode. But I don't disagree with you though, use whatever you want and which suits you best
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>Valve suddenly announces the TRUMP Box with sequels to all your favorite Valve games
>priced at $50
Would you buy it or boycott because of MAGA policies?
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>>747586054
It was actually supposed to kill PC gaming forever and turn it into consoles so we dodged a bullet there
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>>747635462
>/v/ - Politically Incorrect



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