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Wardogs is boring as fuck. Why is it impossible for devs to make a 1942 or joint ops 25+ years later. Didn't technology improve hundredfold? The visuals are nice I'll give it that. I'd honestly rather play the original HLL or MW19 ground war.

Steam is a bane on video games. Before,you had to get approval from publishers to deliver games.
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I gotta agree.

I wanted to like it but most of the time you're not doing anything interesting. I don't need COD zoomerbrain nonstop firefights but something needs to change if full 100-player servers are seeing barely any real action all match.

Not even Squad or HLL are this boring.
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420k players
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Having a blast as logistics. Also fuckin loaded m8.
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>>747592660
I thought you were talking about capcom's 1942 and i was going to say yea a modern take on 1942 would be fun
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Still having fun, and I will continue to have fun until the game crashes and burns after the first wipe.
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I can't remember the last time I booted up a game and felt such an overwhelming feeling of "this game is by and for White guys". Every character model is a White guy and everyone talking on voice chat is a White guy. I feel uniquely at home here.
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>>747598613
>w*men players pretty much always stay at the fob to build
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>>747592660
Just another boring walking sim. As is many such cases.
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>>747598863
>me staying at the fob to build until someone starts rallying an attack
can confirm we do this
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are you retarded how are you not in constant fights theres fobs and a killzone ring thats constantly moving is this a bot post like how bots were flooding the forums on launch day?
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>>747592660
>id honestly rather play MW19
Nigger you are a paid shill there were loads of bots with level 1 profiles that were spamming refund threads day 1 plus they were ddos'd this is 100% a fucking post by a corpo shill that wants this game to fail.
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Is this game good? I want a new FPS to play
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Love when it's a big map but all the fighting is in a tiny shipment sized brainrot cod map the whole game cause the circle keeps moving and there's unlimited choppers.
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>>747598863
its easy money and i'm fucking broke
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>>747600050
do you like arma or battlefield then i would give it a shot
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>>747600050
No, but you can buy it and refund it if you play less than 2 hours. These moronic devs skipped the open beta and turned the closed beta into an open one the last day to fomo people into buying the game before getting to try it.
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>>747600050
yes its a great game I recommend using the shotgun because everyone is running tier 3 armor now so run a shotgun and shoot the legs the double barrel has some great range. Also consider doing other stuff like logistics you basically buy items for the FOB and sell them back to the people at a mark up that gives you exp and money. You could also help setup the fob building walls and turrets is honestly pretty fun.
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>>747592660
>Why is it impossible for devs to make a 1942 or joint ops 25+ years later.

that would require admitting a studio of 99% white guys was simply better and they'd all rather commit mass cult suicide than do that
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>>747592660

I've come to the conclusion the multi-fps genre is filled with people so desperate for a new game that a 4/10 game can take off and have 500k players. We need to wait until a FPS multi has 5mil+ players to know it's a good game now, basically.
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>>747592660
>Why is it impossible for devs to make a 1942 or joint ops 25+ years later.

have any of you considered that genX were just better at coding and millennials and zoomers are too used to using gam dev tools and shit and they simply can't code anything????
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After 20 hours I've come to the conclusion Wardogs is simply a worse Planetside 2
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>>747602690
But wardogs is made by 99% white guys. Unfortunately theyre all retarded millenial white guys.
I do think hell let loose was 90% there, but the lack of killfeed and reliance on commanders filtered 70% of the players.
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>>747602918
I mean the bulkhead devs already proved their incompetence with their last two games, but right off the bat using jeetUE5 doesn't help either.
All things considered they optimized it pretty well, optimization/coding aren't a valid complaint for the game.
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>>747603193
These guys abandoned and fucked over every early access buyer for their last game and theyre just going to do it again after wardogs dies after a few months just like arc raiders did
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>>747592660
>The visuals are nice I'll give it that
Yeah I love that the ground will cycle from 240p to 1440p constantly during the match or that the grass pops in 15 feet away, well within my sightline
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are solos allowed to have fun?
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Game's okay, but I can't run it on my toaster, even on potato mode. Oh well
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>>747592660
I tried it but there is too much downtime. Dying can be sudden an unexpected, then you may have to spend minutes getting back into combat.
Especially if the spawn vehicle isn't in play.
I thought the graphics would be better, given the advertisement, but it was like DayZ or something from 5-10 years ago.
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>>747592660
How are you supposed to go up against guys with seven digit money as a new player
The money should'nt be persistent between matches?
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>>747608105
Keep losing to them until you save up money
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>>747608105
When you are joining late or losing focus on looting, only buy an AK, basic armour and few bandages, flank and play riskier. Only buy costly gear when you are winning to snowball the advantage and stay close to the team.
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I like it but you need to play with friends.
Raids on enemy FOBs with one or two friends is kino
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>>747606260
Never. Hop on mic, faggot.
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>>747604989
works on my machine
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>>747607559
Damn anon, what kind of toaster are you running?
I've found that the game is mostly only demanding when you enable the gay lumen GI shit.
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>>747608105
You waste your free time after your irl job building shit like a labor ged-less wage slave while everyone else gets to have fun and shoot people. Game is a joke. Pure streamerslop and friendslop.
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>>747592660
>The visuals are nice
Its ugly as shit. That's probably the worst thing about it.
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>>747592660
It's literally just arma koth
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>>747599397
Trannies are not women
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>>747613889
? im on 500k just going to the hot zone and killing shit. you must be such a shitter
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>>747600050
no, it'll be dead in a month
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>>747592660
>Developer: Bulkhead
>Publisher: Team 17
this is like fucking hitler and jeffrey epstein teaming up
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>>747592660
The whole 3 team thing just doesn't work. Every match I've played is basically 2 teams actually playing to win while the third ends the match with 10 points.
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>>747592660
>Wardogs
Not my type of game but it's okay for what the system requirements are.
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It is so fucking boring.
>b-but it's fun with friends
anything is fun with friends. even throwing bags of piss each other is fun as friends.
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>>747598429
>wipe
Bullshit, I don't believe it. Do not fucking tell me that after all this grinding for unlocks that it's going to get wiped seasonally.
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>>747608105
You make money off everything. Just be a spotter or builder to get started. Or follow other players as support and loot enemies with better gear.
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Oh boy, I sure love fighting dudes that have unlocked good shit while I'm stuck with basic ass equipment and just die. But wait, I could grind some exp driving back and forth as a fucking taxi or sitting on a roof with binoculars. I finally unlock some shit and it costs a massive chunk of my money to actually unlock.
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>>747617007
good shit spawns at the top of towers anon go to the top and youll often find level 50 shit with spare ammo
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>>747617007
>massive chunk of my money to actually unlock
So? I thought it'd be difficult but i'm generally profitable for a match after like 2 minutes if i don't die. And that's just sitting around doing nothing if i'm actually being useful it's even faster.
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>>747616934
Yes. This game is the abortion of an artificially inseminated rapechild of tarkov, cod, bf, arma, fortnite. One of the worst games I've ever played.
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>>747617304
I like the bones of it so but I can't fucking stand knowing this shit's going to wiped now. Grinding to level 35 doing busywork garbage then grinding more to buy an upgrade just to have parachutes that do what they should do out of the box is Korean MMO tier to begin with, wiping that is even more insane. Why does every single shooter insist on the absolute worst decisions possible? What is it about making a game that just works as-is that's so impossible?
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>>747617636
yup every month will be just you getting raped by nolifers cause they get a headstart every season. no not only is it bad enough you get raped at the beginning of the game, but at least you can build up over time and catch up; no you're going to get raped every month for eternity because you have a life. awful decision making all over this game.
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>>747617007
Just take an AK, a few mags and a few bandages. It's all you really need, unless you are raiding another FOB. Loot off deadpeople, there's so much shit to steal.
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>>747608105
Just shoot them? Armor is just simple % DR, no flat, so all you gotta do is hit more shots.
Tier 3 armor gives 55% so it drops 9mm dmg from 22 to 9.9. So you can kill t3 armored person with one default 20 roung magazine of the starting smg.
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>>747619298
>so all you gotta do is hit more shots.
Against people with better guns while they don't have to hit more shots.
>Bro its fine just shoot them it's uhhh a skill issue bro you die 55% faster than they do just be better mmkay
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It takes so long for anything to happen
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This piece of shit will get 500k players but squad and hell let loose will peak at 50k. Kill everyone.
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>>747620753
Squad sucks
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>>747620784
squad 44 rules but it is dead
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>>747608505
>>747608815
What about transportation to the hot zone, are those free or do you have to pay too?
I heard it takes 10-15 minutes to reach the hot zone on foot?
Shouldn't the cars be free to use unless your base gets attacked?
>>747613889
Real
I think the devs said that they might add a pve mode, I'm guessing that'll add bots
>>747616936
Would've it be meta to always be in the hot zone? Otherwise you're not contributing much
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>>747622008
your base spawns free vehicles, also most people will buy vehicles/helis because transporting people makes tons of cash.

Also about 15 minutes into a match an APC will spawn that someone can drive and people can instantly spawn to wherever it is
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>>747620753
squad turned to liquid shit when the chinese bought the devs and changed everything a couple years ago
hll is made by fucking retards and hasn't had a decent update in forever
arma development is crawling and at this rate we'll be able to play arma 4 by 2096
The genre is fucking cursed and we should just be glad wardogs is breathing a bit of life into it, even if it's closer to battlefield than anything.
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>make unlocking and leveling up faster
>add subway surfer minigame for driving to the cz
>add advanced tutorial that explains towers and drills
>increased mouse sensitivity
i like the game and need this
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Gonna play until the first wipe then probably quit because the grinding sucks.
Having fun though with my 20 something hours.
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>>747610226
No it doesn't
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>>747622668
sorry you are poor
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game will probably lose most of its player with the first wipe
sure the sweats will go on playing
but casual wont
they have to add a lot of content each wipe to make people stay
like good chunk of soviet hardwares/guns/
new game mode etc...
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>>747619730
stop taking fair fights
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>>747624371
>new game mode
>game is built around one particular type of game mode
why you dopamine fuckers want always fucking shiny and new all the time or can't focus for more than a few days holy shit
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>>747608105
use binos for one match to get sks at recon level 5
kill everything with the sks cuz it slaps and kills everyone in 3 shots
do this until you have svd which kills everyone in 2 shots
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>>747617007
Ask people doing supply runs to drop off better guns. People are realizing you can put anything into a supply crate beyond building supplies and ammo. It's pretty cool
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Why is the first red dot completely off?
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i'm probably gonna drop this game after first wipe unless they give community servers the ability to not wipe
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>>747624967
because king of the hill is dogshit and while the devs say the game is built around it, its clearly not since the entire fucking mode is backward ass as fuck.
>have hotzone that gives double points that moves around
>ecourages people being in hotzone
>also have towers on the map that are hard points that can dictate where the zone goes if your good enough as a team
>but then you can also be a fucking faggot and build a fob on map border in a really bullshit building and just build 5 fucking drills of your own and call the circle to you repeatedly all game fucking ignoring every other mechanic in the game
>turns into 1 team camping a fob calling the circle all game while the other two fight each other outside their base
its complete fucking dogshit and a normal squad push game mode where you take sequential points would have made way more fucking sense than whatever the fuck they think this shit is.
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>>747625276
50% chance it's a bug 50% it's because the cheap red dot sight is shittier than the more expensive ones
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>>747624498
This plus a shotgun is going to kill people no matter what aim for the legs
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>>747620753
Wardogs is far better than both of those games
t. 1000 hours in Squad
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>>747622540
>at this rate we'll be able to play arma 4 by 2096
arma 4 is releasing next year
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>>747627129
ok, and how would you know?
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>>747625378
You need to actually counter the FOB
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>it's modern warfare
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>>747627217
i know because they said so
https://arma4.com/
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>>747627217
retard
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>>747627273
We do not sign our posts here.
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>>747627353
cope faggot
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>kernel level anti cheat
I would buy it if didn't have that shit on it, same with that sandship fps game a month ago.
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>tfw kind of decent heli pilot
>but you need to unlock items before you can deliver it to the FOB
Fuck. This game forces you to multirole so you can unlock everything.

>Fuck it I guess Im gonna play minecraft
Just stole a big hammer from some enemy and made 72k profit from just pounding away at our FOB for an hour or two
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>>747592660
This game has a lot of freedom and I’ve been making really funny off meta strats and laughing my ass off and getting lots of kills.
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>>747598613
Same it’s very refreshing. White mans game. You can even say nigger
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>>747598871
Your IQ is too low to play wardogs lmao >>747600379
Literally all of you are lying faggots who didn’t play the game huh.
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The game needs to at least double the team size and also remove a lot of the clunky mechanical management (reloading magazines, having to open inventory and drag things around mid game) for it to feel fun to me.

But i guess if some people like it then thats fine. I am more in to a planetside like experience
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>>747628678
I made most of my money just posting up somewhere and fucking spotting.
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>>747592660
i refunded, it's insane to have wipes on a non-rng based game
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>>747629123
i think it should be 100v100v100
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>>747629248
I’m at just over 1.1mill and the vast majority was from getting an assault rifle and stacking bodies in the hot zone.
Now that average player has lvl 2 armor though I’m starting to experiment with other ideas.

Last night I was stealing enemy fobs and then filling them to the brim with hedgehogs and razor wire. They’ll eventually take the base back but it will never be the same
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>>747629286
Are the wipes going to be permanent or only for the beta? Because wipes during beta sounds like a good thing imo. Assuming of course they keep adding items to the game.
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>>747598119
Yeah and monhun milds got 1.4 million concurrent players.
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I just want to play bfbc2 more
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>>747598613
good goy, we expect you to enlist when ww3 kicks off!
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>>747629427
Permanent. Seasonal resets, cash converted to gold.
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>>747629326
It should be 300v300v300 but lost technology
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>>747627250
Cool, how do you do that?
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>>747629475
It also should be less of ARMA autism. God i fucking miss MAG.
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>>747629531
>mortars
>rocket helis
>tanks
>arty
>nades
>c4
Not the devs fault if people don't buy these things
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>>747627250
or simply 50v50 mode without HZ bs
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why did they even add the 'control all towers to get the code so you can pull the hz to you' mechanic when it's made completely irrelevant by just building a fucking drill
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>>747629473
they need to add ark raider loot tables else wipe makes no sense, you need to be able to find gear that is past your level to deal with helicopters and humveees.
Wipes only work on the first week where everyone is on equal play but people that excel will excel making wipes pointless for last 2 weeks
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>>747629470
N-no! I'm going to play a bunch of nigger games just to spite you!
Anon please don't pretend to be retarded
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>>747617007
Yeah, I don't know why these mouth breather devs decided to slap an additional experience system on top of the cash meta game. Makes no fucking sense and feels like complete trash.
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>>747592660
OK I need to know something before I buy the game so please, someone enlighten me.
I want to play some warsim but arma seems kinda junky to me.
If that's the mix between arma and bf then great.
Are there stupid cosmetics? I don't want to see some guy wearing LGBT weapon skins who looks like he ran off from a different video game, sliding behind every corner and jumping like a monkey.
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>>747619730
Just don't get shot by them? I the scenario I gave if you don't miss it takes you a whole 0.73s to kill them. Actually less because I forgot torso (the part armor protects) has a dmg multiplier higher than 1x
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>>747622337
>nstantly spawn to wherever it is
Lol nope, it has a cooldown and the APC must be in the zone and completely stationary
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>>747616934
The tutorial LITERALLY says the wipe will happen at the end of the season, which is the end of this month.
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I mean they can't even get KOTH, the most simple old game mode ever right. Like asking someone to make a sponge cake and they somehow fuck it up by randomly adding salt and jolly ranchers to it.
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>>747617007
Kill one person and you get all their shit
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What's with the money thing everyone complains?
You earn money by playing the game, and then you spend that money to buy guns?
Or do I need money for each respawn?
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I LOST 17K FROM THE MAINTENANCE AAAAAAA
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they should add cute slavic/western and persian girls as operators
like n subscribe for more ideas
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>>747631925
yes but also make them anime
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What went so fucking wrong?
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>i'm broke and/or have nothing unlocked
literally just grab the free rifle and a parachute, hop into the first heli you see in spawn, paradrop into the cz, find the largest roaming group of your teammates you can safely walk to without getting killed, follow them around and wait for them to shoot somebody, then take that nigga's gear
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>>747616934
I already refunded.
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>>747631731
There's desert tan, forest camo and a golden AK cosmetics. But right now unlocking them is a gigagrind to the point you'd be lucky to find one person in the game using it
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>take dead teammates shit
>i revive them like a good teammate
>they proceed to have a fucking meltdown at me
Yeah this semen slurping game isn't for me. Hey have you tried not dying instead?
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>>747632018
Are the servers down or something?
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>>747632215
Why are you taking others gear
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>>747632302
Yeah. It's under maintenance for an hour. I lost 17k worth of logistics from that disconnect.
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>>747631871
Persistent (cleared on wipe) account money. You get money doing anything including breathing in the objective. You spend money on one-time (per wipe) unlocks and to kit yourself every respawn.
Consider how bad an average person is with money and you'll know why they are bitching about it. Most of it is "no I won't stop buying candles" tier
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>>747632360
Sorry anon . Have some nep pantsu
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>>747632215
>activate the drill
>play hava nagila down the mic
then I refunded
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>>747632337
Cause I just installed the game and dont have anything good. I could have just not revived him.
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Im fine with money wipe but why progressions wipe? What does that add?
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>>747632215
you do something like that and then get upset about them being mad? just own it. Tell them 'get farmed idiot' and move on
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>>747632215
You will not be missed, and I think you know that too.
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>>747632215
>be a total faggot
>be antisocial enough that getting called out gives you a panic attack and makes you shit and piss yoir pants
yup it's /v/ allright
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>>747632018
Europeans are at work and honestly the game is a bit boring and matches take too long. I want to play a 30min game.
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>People without parachutes jumping off my heli and dying before I perfectly land on a flat ground

gets a laugh out of me every time.
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Arma reforger is better than this in every single way. And that was just a beta for arma 4
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>>747632732
>Arma reforger is better than this in every single way.
lmao
i tried this at launch and it was just dayz standalone 2, felt exactly the same (bad)
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>>747598613
good morning sir
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>>747632431
If you wipe only money then you will have 20 tankniggers in second match making 300k per game and then what was the point of wipe
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>>747592660
It's got solid bones to it, but an overwhelming amount of gay shit that is gonna ensure it being a game populated exclusively by faggots in a couple months
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>>747632847
the solution is making tanks cost 5-10x more than they currently do and making them way less durable so they aren't just an instant win button and the drivers actually have to use their brain
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BF6 isn't even that bad, I don't understand you fags having irrational hate for it, you and CoDniggers truly cannot be satiated and don't know what you actually want
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>>747632953
>BF6 isn't even that bad
bf6 is pure tranny slop in the worst possible sense
it is a 5/10 game that is actively getting worse with every update.
only an actual tranny or a nigger would try defending that trash.
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>>747632953
BF6 was so bad I got bored of it during the second weekend of the beta. Which to its credit is longer than it took for me to get bored of Wardogs. Videogames are truly dead. I can boot up BF2 and play on revived servers that only have 30 people be having the time of my life.
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>>747632953
I had fun with BF6 in the beta, the reason why I didn't buy the game at launch was due to the small maps. I keep getting rushed from the side.
How's the player base? Servers? Maps?
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its just singleplayer bf6+pubg+warzone+arma 3 lite
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>>747632215
there is simply no way you are this poorly socialised
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>>747632953
It's awful.

>women screaming constantly
>worst maps in the whole series
>awful vehicle combat
>terrible class system
>shockingly bad progression system
>shit campaign (although the norm post-Bad Company 2)
>obnoxious season pass garbage
>boring daily challenges
>appalling netcode
Haven't touched it in like 6 months or more and have zero interest in ever going back.
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>>747592660
Everything wrong with modern videogames is clusterfucked together right here in this game. talkin dick in ass tongue in hole dick in ass train track loop
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>>747632953
Yeah its fun NOW the open beta was the best though
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>>747592660
I've only seen other people play it but it really does look like a worse hell let loose with shitty tarkov mechanics for some reason.
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Anyone in EU wants to teamup inside an armed SUV with RPGS fucking up enemy supply lines ?
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one thing this game actually has over most modern shooters is no console crossplay
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>>747632953
BF6 has like alrightish infantry combat that doesn't fit into BF at all and all of the things that actually define BF as a series (maps, vehicle combat, gadgets, sandbox elements) etc are all horrible dogshit
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>>747633291
I can still find full 100 player servers in HLL. I truly don't understand why people don't play it. Just load into xp farm servers to level up fast.
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>>747633465
HLL is a mediocre game full of retarded boomers and Battlefield refugees
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>>747632423
>Cause I just installed the game and dont have anything good. I could have just not revived him.

then dont revive. a retard took my rifle and then revived me, and then i cant do anything while enemies ar around me.

This is why i started to buy pistols, so i can execute morons like this and take back my weapon
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>>747633217
>A WOMAN IN MY VIDEOGAME? NUH UHHHHH
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>>747598119
Battlefield 6 got 700,000 and now it's lost 94% of its peak player base.

It's only been a fucking year. In 2-3 years the game people paid $70 will be gone
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>>747634260
>It's only been a fucking year. In 2-3 years the game people paid $70 will be gone
any videogame ever in this day and age
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Boredog
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>>747600050

>fag with 51 hours over 4 days
>things i like:
>running logistics is profitable, it solves the issue in arma where no one wants to do transport/logi runs except non-verbal autists or those who don't want their team to lose and reluctantly give up the fun part of the game.
>i've spent about 30 hours just flying heli logis while listening to youtube on the side. flying is a bit rough but i got the hang of it.
>can quit a match at any time with all the cash and xp you made if you don't like your team. if your team is 2nd or 3rd place, the match bonus is usually not worth it. just quit and find another server.
>building is fun, if you get enough supplies.
>maps are fuck huge

>things i don't like
>logistics can be a bit too proftitable, you get matches where 1/3 of your team is running logis and not enough frontline inf on the control point. logi may be getting a nerf.
>blue team always sucks for whatever reason. everyone wants to get into red or green, they might as well just make it red vs green. 50 players on each side would improve the game considerably.
>progression system is grindy as fuck, and it puts a lot of essentials out of reach of new players. the top 5-10% of players will absolutely dominate the game in the coming weeks, will definitely affect player numbers as new players get raped by attack helis and tanks and $100,000 kitted no-lifers.
>wish the control point was larger/different game modes, the maps are huge and i want to play more in the different areas
>season wipe
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>>747634260
Good. Forever-games are an anomaly, not everything has to be fortnite, zoom zoom
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>>747634695
>51 hours played in 4 days
You clearly are the intended audience...
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>>747632953
I stopped caring about that after battlefield 5

>abandon dev work on 5 to "focus on the next release" how the fuck can you have a ww2 game without the Russians
>next game comes out and is a steaming pile of shit
>mfw I'm done with this franchise
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>>747632953
Both my friend and I quit playing because shooting console players means 1-2 of my bullets will simply NOT register server side, only client side. I will almost always lose a 1v1 because of this. Consoles have the upperhand with the netcode AND they're given 20% reduced recoil AND legal aimbot.

You really think people are just going to continue playing in an unfair environment??
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>>747598303
How old even are you?! A million?
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after thinking on it for a while, I've come to the conclusion that this game would be significantly improved if fob building and every other feature bulkhead added to the arma 3 koth formula was completely removed
here's hoping the promised customization settings for community servers actually arrives and facilitates the ability to do this
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>>747634260
>Battlefield 6 got 700,000 and now it's lost 94% of its peak player base.
I can still find plenty of servers though. Who gives a shit?
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>>747636580
But why did all those players leave?
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How the fuck do I get mad cash while playing small heli? I'm fucking in the red with all the logistics I'm doing. Do I have to unlock the bigger one for pallets?
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>>747636337
Fob building is the only reason I got this game. If I wanted to just run around doing nothing but shooting shit like a nigger, I'd go play BF or CoD.
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>>747637350
Pallets are where the money is, I have never touched a supply crate ever. If you faggots think I'm buying shit at a markup, you're huffing glue.
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>>747634695
>blue team always sucks for whatever reason.
>for whatever reason
They are the defacto tutorial faction so naturally they get the drooling retards most of the time. Another huge, and I really mean significant issue is how retarded the devs are when it comes to overall balance. First of all, look at the team colors. Lonestar getting to wear very visible blue uniforms and white helmets while the other two teams get to wear all black and green respectively is complete retardation. They simply stick out too much compared to everyone else.
But the main issue why blue is constantly getting buttfucked is because the game kind of incentivizes not spending much when you're already losing or outright leaving if that's the case like you even stated. This is further amplified by the fact that the devs are complete mouth breathers who are too dumb to do basic math. Splitting a circular playing field into 3 even spaces should logically result in a north west/north east/south HQ distribution but these fucktards thought that pushing two teams further down south is somehow a good idea. Having a west/east/south split is complete insanity because it always results in the south getting sandwiched. At this point they should just make this a two faction game mode and remove lonestar entirely if they can't even do the bare minimum in terms of proper faction balance.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/R5UojUMAaJs

Protip: Play a good co-operative war game instead.
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>>747637350
nobody wants to manually shuttle like 4 pieces of build at a time from your crate to the fob
the devs could easily fix this by making fob supplies instantly enter the fob inventory when bought from crates just like pallets but unfortunately they're retarded
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>>747637350
>How the fuck do I get mad cash while playing small heli?

just pick up and drop off players, what else are you doing? you can try occasional crates with 10 or 20 bandages at FOBs/spawn points/high conflict areas but that's basically gambling.
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>>747608105

Cheap ways to make money and contribute more than a guy in a loaded kit
>Get some binoculars and spot out enemy movement
>Get a small hammer and help assemble the base
>Learn to fly a helicopter
>Level your Driver to 3, unlock the Ural truck and make LOADSA MONEY while arguably being the most important player on the field
>Loot dead players on the field. Any backpack on the ground is a free upgrade.
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>>747637574

I like playing as Blue. I feel like the competitive pressure will make Lonestar mains into the most competent given a few weeks of getting fucked over.
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>>747632953
BF6 maps are shit and you don't even get new ones often
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>>747634695
>season wipe
I probably will quit playing after all my money and stuff gets taken away. They need to change this idea of theirs.
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>>747637350
>How the fuck do I get mad cash while playing small heli?
drop infantry not boxes from the scout heli, anon
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>>747634083
I've read you can't take their stuff if you TK them?
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>No linux support

I give it 6 months to drop below 5k players
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>>747640452
I would have boughted but I guess they don't want me to play it
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>>747632215
>roaming with the APC with a Drill, batteries and revive masks
>safe moment to hop out and revive allies
>faggot is shouting over the mic at me
>"IM REVIVING HIM, HE'S MY FRIEND! YOU'RE SO ANNOYING MANNNNNN"
>He defibs his fuck buddy while im less than half a second from reviving him with mask
>I hop in the APC
>You know what, no, its not okay.
>I hop out, and TK him for being the biggest faggot bitch i've encountered in a long time
>goes fucking bananas of course
>APC driver and myself just keep following the CZ and his screaming fades out
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>>747632018
Should have been (and inevitably will be) free to play.
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>>747641356
Im thinking next time someone cries like this, im going to just TK them and take their loadout.
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>>747595870
Get into the HZ zone and die like a fucking noob that you are.
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>>747592660
>Wardogs is boring as fuck
>>747595870
>most of the time you're not doing anything interesting
are you niggers playing the same game i am? literally just go do something instead of sitting in base, what the fuck?
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>>747632953
I'm almost 4000 years old.
I can't stand the schizophrenic rhythm of CoD or even Battlefield. I now prefer more slow paced and time to time action packed situational gameplay rather than "bambloozing" into a 14years old infested Fortnite like game.
Insurgency, Hell let Loose, Arma, Squad, Rising Storm, etc.. There are a lot of slow paced games that can scratch my itch for a MP shooter without being obnoxious.
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>>747595870
>>747598871


dumb /v/iggers not understanding how to play the game and then calling it bad will never not be hilarious.
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I like it, but I think the wipe will cripple the game. I cannot fathom playing it like I am now, again. There's so much grind to get to the levels you NEED for pretty basic things, like MAAWs (or even just the lockon stinger-equivalent), not to mention trying to get driving to the level necessary for tanks. I've been driving in every single match I've played, at least one logi run per match, and I'm only at lv15. No one will ever get in a car willingly with how prevalent helis are and how much faster they are, either, so ferrying exp is out of the question.

Gunplay is pretty bland because the progression in nearly every single class category is linear. Higher level unlock = better, almost universally. FAL at 35 assault is pretty much the best non-sniper in the game, it does fucking 130 damage to an unarmored target, center mass. It one taps level 1 helmets, and two taps level 2 helmets.
Every other assault rifle is half or less it's damage, they're all within 1-2 damage of each other, it's crazy.
SMGs fall off super hard at level 2+ armor.
shotguns are a cool novelty but have no real meaningful presence outside of base defense or warehouse sweeps on the new map (Where snipers are still superior because of all the extreme vantage points).

Mortars are fucking strong, whoever gets a mortar base set up FIRST will almost always win, because you just rain down hellfire on your enemies and they can't build anything to counter you. It's too easy to slap down hesco around a mortar encampment and stop snipers, which leaves them functionally immortal as a result.
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>>747641017
>boughted
>linux user
>esl retard

yeah we dont want you to play.
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>>747642409
>I like it, but I think the wipe will cripple the game. I cannot fathom playing it like I am now, again.

only valid take in this entire thread. i agree, im farming so hard right now i dont see myself doing this again for another wipe. im guessing after the first wipe they are going to change the rates/requirements to be more relaxed like they were in the beta, otherwise this games gonna die.

i read it takes 500 logi runs to unlock the tank. i have 40 hours in the game already and have done probably 50 logi runs total, a few at the start of each match. i dont see myself getting to lvl 35 driver before the wipe lol.
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>>747642656
a little less than 500, I think it's 750k for level 35, and you get around 2000 for a successful URAL trip. end of match bonus exp probably helps too, but it's very very slow. I have basically given up on it, we're almost 5 days in, I'd get there but it will be the 20th almost by the time it does, which leaves me just over 2 weeks to actually play around with the tank, and I'd have to be focusing almost entirely on ural logi to do it by that timeframe.
They say they're going to tweak progression and balance and stuff but I think the lightning is out of the bottle, a wipe before like, console release or 1.0 is something I would accept, but regularly occurring? I don't think so. We'll see though maybe they find ways to make it enjoyable.
The gold bar system was a huge nonstarter, too. 300k-500k gold bars was a really interesting price point, but at 2+m there's basically no way to get the limited skin unless you're exploiting, unless that was their goal and it's just bait for them to look into the accounts that actually do get it (Which would probably be pretty smart lmao).
Lots of little things I can see them fixing up, but the big one is wipes, and I just don't see that getting through normalfags. They WILL quit.
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>>747627252
>no drones
It's not modern warfare
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>>747642982
it has drones, you buffoon, you absolute silly billy, you goofball.
They're just not super useful right now because there's no bulky slow moving vehicles to blow up besides APCs. Once tanks and artillery start hitting the field drones will be a pretty important part of outer ring fobs.
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I think releasing in EA was a huge mistake. They will become reliant on wipes to make larger balance changes, players will optimize around leveling metas to quickly get to the kit they want to use and farming strats to unlock, and overall everyone will burn out long before this ever hits 1.0

Why are they calling it a seasonal wipe? What is the temporary seasonal mechanic. It's just a wipe, similar to tarkov before they started with an actual season mechanic on the last one.
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>>747643492
limited skins with the gold bars that no one will ever get because it's 2m per gold bar and 30 plus bars (60 million dollars) for ONE seasonal skin.
That's the entirety of "seasons". The dev did say on twiter that they were "changing progression, item availability, and even unlock levels" with seasons too, so maybe themed seasons or something are a plan, but they've also said "we're not working on new content for EA, it's all bug fixes and optimization until 2027" so who knows, they're just saying literally anything that will get people excited right now.
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the bigger thing is gold bars were meant to be THE money sink, and 300k was a really sweet spot for it, the default available items would cost a couple hundred mil to fill out (the desert camos, emotes, woodland camos, etc), people would probably buy a bar here or there to get something they wanted.
But at the retarded price point they're at, no one will ever bother buying a gold bar, so money is effectively infinite since price points are SO low on most things, and nearly everything you do is profitable. I've seen people already stacked to 1m+. Even the MOST expensive unlocks are 500k-600k, that leaves 400k extra that they literally won't have anything to spend it on, it's fucking insane how poorly thought out this whole thing has been.
Why these random, sweeping changes after a beta when things felt great? People were whining about speed of progression, that probably needed to be slowed down, sure, but why change the money and gold bars? They were fucking perfect.
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>>747632953
bf6 is game that is making me contemplate selling my rtx5070ti pc and just go touch grass.
the gunplay sucks ass. forces you to play high dmg high rate of fire weapons because the movement is just too fucking fast, and actual window where you can shoot people is 200ms. (eg. SVD does 33 dmg at medium range, so you hit ppl for 99 with bodyshots. its a fucking troll) maps fucking suck ass, there is so much trash on them that block your bullets, but on the objective there is no cover, its brilliant how shit the maps are. should be studied for years to come. also maps are designed in such a way that you cannot hold a point on your own, its impossible. vehicles are so fucking overpowered. sound is broken.
weapon upgrades are hilarious. acog sight will completely change your weapons recoil. LMAO forcing you to use 1x on all guns. which makes the game pixel hunt simulator. supressor mandatory on all guns. including lmgs lmao. who even designed this.


>get new 50 cal sniper
>it has explosive effect on impact
>doesnt one bodyshot people at all ranges
>does zero dmg to vehicles

bf6 is if someone made jeets and women make a fps shooter under gun point.

only redeemable thing about it, and the aspect i found enjoyable in my 200 hours of it is shooting helicopters with m24at or whatever its called guided missile. wish the thing was a bit faster desu and i wish there were ammo depots on objective points.
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>>747643076
The drone is great for fucking up cunts sitting in their artillery tank pounding your base from a kilometer away.
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>have good friend I play vidya with
>he got me into HLL
>I fucking hate how clunky and unoptimized it is, between tanks getting stuck on pebbles to characters failing to leap over a small wall
>there's also an unnecessary amount of downtime, between 50s death timers and having to rely on your team having a garry anywhere close to the action because God FORBID we ever got jeeps or any decent troop transport vehicle
>also can't see shit, ever
>also hasn't had a significant upgrade in 4 years, and likely never will since the new studio just wants to get some quick cash by shitting out DLCs
>tried getting him into all other tacticool shooters out there, from RS2 to Insurgency to Isonzo to Gallipoli
>he always goes back to HLL (probably because people are talkative?) even tho he dislikes Arma-tier LARPing
Would this game be a good fit for us? Price's really fucking steep for an EA game but I'd be willing to pay if it means I don't have to die like a dog on Omaha Beach anymore
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>>747645404
cool, there's less than 1000 people at level 90 right now globally according to the devs, odds of even running into one of them is pretty much zero. So, right now, drones are pretty worthless especially for the amount of setup they require.
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>>747645449
I'd say wait till next month if you weren't sold by the 3 or 4 betas they ran, the wipe is gonna be the biggest show of how much longevity the game's got.
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>>747645458
I've run into at least 3 cunts with artillery trucks.
The drone is also good for fucking up the fags driving around in Humvees with gunners or hitting supply trucks.
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>>747645573
I don't believe you.
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>>747645526
I actually had somehow never heard of it, so I never got to try the beta
Another friend tried it and said the beta was really disappointing because "the map was huge but the gamemode was basically team deathmatch in a small circle in the middle, and it took like 5 minutes to get there from spawn; also there was no commander"
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>>747645573
>The drone is also good for fucking up the fags driving around in Humvees with gunners or hitting supply trucks.
i guess you can do this if you're ok with burning your money, because you will not make a profit killing these targets.
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>>747645803
>basically team deathmatch in a small circle in the middle
ah so he didn't even actually play it either. It's KOTH, not tdm.
>>747645845
he's clearly talking about playing the beta or something, you can't even hit those cars with the nerfs to movement. It's hardlocked to a brutally slow turnrate.
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>>747645845
If you want a profit then just use them to blow up spawn APCs, that's an easy $13.5k with 2 drones and for some reason idiots still don't build bunkers around their APCs.
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>>747645959
>2 drones
what are you onnnnnnnnnnnn, they blow them up with 1. Why are you just making bullshit up?
And those spawn vehicles are almost fucking always inside of hesco bunkers so you can't even lock them.
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>>747646012
>they blow them up with 1. Why are you just making bullshit up
he's probably a retard who aims at the radio
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>>747646282
>posting clips from beta
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
ALMOST LIKE ITS BEEN CHANGED SINCE THE BETA
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>>747592660
>Why is it impossible for devs to make a 1942
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1324780/Easy_Red_2/
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>>747646342
>ALMOST LIKE ITS BEEN CHANGED SINCE THE BETA
here's a clip from release
what's been changed, exactly?
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>>747616934
then how do you incentivize people in support roles once everyone is maxed out?
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>>747642895
It was like day 2 when I hopped on Shrouds stream for a moment. He was sitting in the menu and had approx $1.25 million. Some people are definitely going to be able to obtain some bars at the price they're at currently.

I do find it a bit insanely priced but maybe the price will drop considerably near the end of the season.
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>>747645893
>It's KOTH, not tdm.
I think his point was that it felt very uncoordinated and random, you just walk into the KOTH and die?
I dunno, I wouldn't trust him too much regaardless
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Where's the Linux anticheat support? I'm not going back to Microslop KDE is comfy.
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>>747646282
>>747646646
modern warfare is so fucking gay, things are only getting worse from here
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i played all weekend and ignored my wife, children, and yardwork. my only gripes so far are with the season wipes, and i think it could do with a larger player count.
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wardogs gameplay is very unc coded
it's perfect
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>>747637350
do not do supplies until you unlock pallets, you almost always lose money otherwise. The only real way to make money flying is either getting 10+ kills with an attack heli or doing transport, which even then you don't make that much compared to say mortars or manning SAM's.
Honestly transport is hard to do sometimes, I find most of the games I'm in there are WAY more transport helis than people that need a ride so you just end up ferrying one person every 3 minutes which is just a waste of time.
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>>747636872
because the game sucks. The player count in multiplayer games literally doesn't matter until it's below like 2000. I had over 1000 hours in squad until the infantry update and during every single one of those hours the game struggled to reach 3k players on a good day and there were always 10+ full servers at all times.
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>>747645449
You sound dumb. Hll runs on potatos. Community aa makes the game clear as day. There are unlimited squads, you can make your own outpost and your own garries. The only time the game is bad is when you have a retard hogging commander who wont drop supplies. They updated the game already so you can run fast and a new map. You can drive the apc yourself to give teammates a good spawn and there are plenty vehicles. You just sound like you dont know how to drive irl
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>>747632953
nobody here wants to play video games that's the thing they just want everything to suck for the sake of it
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Infantry gameplay in the zone sucks notice all the praise is dedicated to driving or flying or base building

I have no idea why this milsim slop popped off like are fps fans this desperate? The marketing really tugs on the heart strings for 2008 yet the game is nothing like old cod or old bf or halo 3.

I can revive 35 people in the hot zone and barely get money at the levels of a fob shitter and I spent more than he did so truly didn’t make anything
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>>747650017
Pictures or it didn’t happen doomer cod fan
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>>747647329
I don't consider streamers human, and they're also given benefit by the devs like prio access, and have entire communities of people willing to funnel them shit. Have you seen the multiple clips of him having an entire team in the back of his ural? 20+ people? That would literally just never happen in a regular match.
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>>747592660
the thing i dislike is the money aspect. having everyone just chasing money discourages team play in general. no one wants to work together because it "takes their money" when they do.
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>>747650017
>I can revive 35 people in the hot zone and barely get money at the levels of a fob shitter
You definitely didn't play the game, building fobs is one of the least profitable things in the game and medic is one of the most.
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>>747650083
I could have probably gotten a cheaper loadout but stacking large batteries is too good to not pass up
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>>747650265
building is insanely profitable, what are you smoking? You make 15k from a single drill rig which takes like 2k build supps and a minute and a half, you can EASILY make 200k a match if you just go make a fob in the corner of the cz and spam rigs, don't even have to turn them on or have the fuel for them.
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>>747645449
No anon, yours and his progression will be wiped intermittently and progression is an illusion.
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>Why aren't games as fun as they were when I was 12
Just go fish by the river and shut up, old man.
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>>747650346
>you can make money if you do this one exploit and ignore the game completely
I wouldn't know
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>>747650265
>>747650314
Building + mortaring is insane profit. The guy highlights the issue medic is a high investment to high risk to Low return

FOB is low investment high return low risk
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>>747650314
Infantry gameplay is actually aids. I am noticing the meta is being set already and people are ignoring towers
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>>747650456
it's not really low risk. FOBs will get mortar/artillery on them almost instantly once they start to be a threat. and since everyone just goes off and builds random FOBs everywhere, they fall easily.
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>>747650456
>building and mortaring are insane profit
A dog turd and a gold bar are also insane profit.
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>>747650534
I figured out the counter is just you need multiple guys at least 3 or 4 and you have a main FOB and a mortar fob behind it so once the shelling starts you just go to the back
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>>747650521
megafobs win in the late game as long as you have a couple well-fueled drills and don't let it get mortared to hell, this is why green wins every game; red just wants to fight and blue just wants to do whatever blue does.
honestly I hope they nerf mortars, they decide almost every game I've noticed.
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>>747650439
Yeah, you can make $200k if you do that
if you just build regularly you get $5k-$15k per buildable object, nigger, way to ignore the point to cry about being bad at the game.
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>>747650661
Allowing one mortar per base would fix it overnight. Also maybe lower the damage to structures
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This game is going to die like so many early access niggerfaps because it's just the same fucking game released over and over again. Unreal/Unity garbage milsim with no destruction that has you "capping points". I think the only good game to ever release within this crappy genre was Rising Storm 2. That game felt pretty good to play and I think is justified existing since it released in 2017 and nothing like it really released around then. But now it's 2026. We are now playing Squad clones with nothing to offer except for their ephemeral hype cycle and we just have to take it because it's "early access".
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>>747650741
it doesn't even need to be that severe. Literally just force the same artillery cooldown to mortars. Make them do the little arrow minigame between shots.
There's no earthly reason mortars should be able to do 3 shots in rapid succession. None at all, and it snaps the game balance in half because you can break a significant number of fob objects (gates and doors in particular) with a set of 3 mortars.
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>>747650730
>5k-15k per buildable object
What the fuck are you smoking? Do you exclusively build awics or something? You can build an entire outer wall with gates and barbed wire, a 15 minute venture, and make less than 20k
I do it almost every game.
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>>747650825
>walls and barbed wire
are you playing your first match? Why are you building small hammer shit?
Build gates, build concrete, build mortars, build SAMs, build rigs, build literally anything else besides fucking hesco blocks and barbed wire that take one swing each lmao
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>>747650823
I just figured out you could queue up 3 mortars while you're watching the shell fly, I made $150,000 in like 10 minutes last night lmao
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The devs ain’t doing shit, the CEO is an absolute asshole who after months of constant pandering to desperate fps gamers of how he’s for them and anti AAA only to capitulate to streamers the minute they are coming to the game AND has them in a private chat

He only communicates through twitter/discord I haven’t seen actual road maps it’s literally piecemeal between X, discord, and fucking PODCASTS. I can’t think of a dev who deserves this success the least because he’s only gonna get worse because his hubris is large
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>>747650880
I was talking about concrete walls, gates, security doors, barbed wire, tank traps, and some hesco walls. you get nothing for static defenses.
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>>747650996
you're just lying then. not even going to entertain you further, enjoy coping.
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>>747650823
is there anything that doesn't die to 3 mortar rounds besides the fob itself? I think that's enough damage to break even concrete walls and indirect fire shelters.
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>>747651062
coping with what? making less money than a guy walking around with defibs?
what in the actual fuck are you talking about, retard?
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>100 players split between 3 fucking teams
>10-20 people on each team are just building shit and designated taxi drivers
>leaving only 10 people to fight each other on a big map
>which is why the hotzone is small as fuck so the map doesnt feel like a big map at all
>if you dont have builders you cant win so it’s the same meta and game every single game which goes against the thesis of a big map game
This game actually fucking blows
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>>747651081
it does not break concrete nor indirect fire shelters, not even double hesco, only small.
Interestingly, it breaks gates, but NOT the concrete base for gates, (only damages them like 10%) so they have to sit there and dismantle at 4% a swing to replace the gates, it's really kind of fucked up honestly, it's nearly impossible to upkeep because of how many buildables are actually in separate pieces with wildly varying hp.
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>>747650346
I was wondering why some faggots in my games kept building super expensive shit right in the beginning of the game and absorbing all of our supplies before we even had walls up
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>>747651191
it's really tedious to try to fix a damaged base, hesco walls for example have to be fixed in individual blocks. Honestly when I'm building and I see someone using hesco for anything besides making platforms to stand on or build other shit on I usually just give up and let the enemy teams take over the base when the inevitable mortar apocalypse comes.
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It’s an okay game it’s bad but it’s not saving fps

The discourse over this game is so odd it’s unironically gained a cult
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>>747651486
Have you considered maybe people are just starved for a good FPS? I can't think of an FPS game I genuinely enjoyed since the Tribes Ascend beta.
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>>747651564
I think the starvation is why it popped but the hype screens bf6 and arc raiders. The is simply a patch away from either damnation or saving the genre
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I want to play this game but I feel like I'll be wasting my money desu

Are you anons having fun?
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>>747651706
nigger just watch a video on it or something, if it doesn't immediately look appealing to you at a glance you're not going to like it.
I'd say if you're like 90% of /v/ and suck at multiplayer games don't bother. people talk about building and logi but at the end of the day it's a battlefield-style shooter and eventually you're going to have to pick up a gun and shoot people, if that terrifies you save your money.
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>>747651564
People being desperate are why it’s so popular but for how long
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>>747651706
Yes. I think there's a lot of fun to be had for the next 20~ days until wipe. I've been playing and would say I have, of my ~120h (including the betas), I've got about 80 hours of actual fun, and 40 of queues, travel time, building, taxiing, logi.
I think after wipe it's really up in the air if people stick around, but I do not hold high hopes it retains it's current popularity. I think it gets cleaved in half, and slowly drops down through october and then just doesn't recover, maybe until console release in a couple years.
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>>747651929
/v/ doesn’t even hate the game that much if anything the praise it’s getting is usually high for a game here
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Mild criticism is considered hate here now I don’t understand how this game is so glazed and even I bought it too if you point out anything I’m a cod kid apparently
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>>747651947
I truly don't care, there's no chance this game will lose the amount of players required for me not to immediately find a full server, so It could lose 99% of the playerbase tomorrow and it wouldn't effect me in the slightest.
people praying to God for this to be another marathon/concord/tortanic or whatever are going to be coping for quite a while I think.
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The game feels too small, that's the root cause of why I'm annoyed with it. It needs like 200-300 people at least in one game, that's when you actually get emergent gameplay. It's hard to describe, but it feels like I'm playing house when I'm doing logi or taxi, not "true" logi or taxi, because everything feels so small-scale.
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>>747651706
I felt like my time would be wasted when my progression was wiped. It takes so long to level up for example to a new vest that I really don't want to do this every month.
>Sitting in a FOB and going AFK and using your other screen seems to be the meta.
>The building is nice but unrewarding as it encourages people to sit in the FOB earning passive income.
>Teamplay is non-existent, you will frequently have your loadout or pieces of it stolen by your teammates reviving you. It's intentionally designed this way.
>The gunplay is mediocre, you will headshot someone without a helmet and it won't kill them.
>You have 1-100 HP points and soon a meta will be established around the most damaging guns.
>Playing as a medic is pointless because you spend more money on medkits and revive items than the money you could ever earn in 1 life from using them, providing you aren't killed and your equipment isn't stolen by a "friendly".
>You need to grind for about 6 hours for basic things like an RPG or the ability to build large walls, your time may be longer.
>The game is based around entering a small zone and filling it with more people than the enemy team to generate points for your team, 100 points to win the match. Except you can build something called a "drill" and build a ton of them, and it will pull the zone to the drill so it actively encourages the AFK in a FOB playstyle and it is the most efficient way to win, and the other teams can do nothing except attack but those are easily thwarted. Then you activate your next drill, and so on to victory.
It's mid at best, dogshit at worst. There's fun to be had but once you've played 1 match you've played them all. Green usually wins, red generally attacks, and blue eats crayons from what I found.
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>>747652439
>6 hours for an RPG
>6 hours to hit level 5 support
immediately discounts the entirety of your post.

also I've heard a lot of people talk about teammates stealing your shit when reviving you, but have not once experienced this, are you on the chink servers or something?
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It’s not good it’s not bad people are just walking on eggshells since like usual fps discourse is “go back to cod!” And now it’s “go back to battlefield”
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>>747652551
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1 wipe per month is just kind of insane. Way too fast to wipe shit. I can understand like once every... 6 months? at the very least like 3 months. 1 month just stresses people out, and even the most honest, grounded people will resort to poopsock metaslaving to acquire shit.

At the very least, if you're gonna have such a small "season" window, you NEED to stop cucking lvl1 noob gear so hard. Less korean mmo balance and more TF2 balance
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>>747652851
You're right, which is why it's not 6 hours. level 5 support is something you can get in one match if you run logistics or use a mortar someone else placed.
Something people are failing to realize is that you're supposed to be taking advantage of other people being higher level than you in other tracks, so that you can use shit they buy.
If someone's a high level pilot, offer to buy them a manpad or something they don't have in exchange for them buying you a heli to use.
Get someone higher level support than you to build a mortar encampment for you, and buy them a gun.
Shit like that.
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It is just in the middle

I don't hate it, I don't love it and the decisions going forwards mostly concern me.

I wanna get it so I can play it with my friends but I always have that thought in my head of "is it worth it?" and I can't really answer that.
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>>747652961
the first one is 1 month, 2nd and 3rd as planned are 3 months. They said the first one would be 1 month in july, this is way old info, why are people acting like it's new?
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>>747652968
>Nooooo you have to piggyback off other people so let me write some LARP about how the game is actually correctly designed
nigger that's the point, what happens after wipe?
>oh you- uh- REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>747653071
where does it say that?
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>>747653071
oh ok so in other words you would be stupid to play the game currently as you'd just be wasting time?
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>>747650262
Money should be a non factor unless you are a complete bottom feeder that refuses to do anything else than dying repeatedly. I buy 15k kits, die up to 10 times a match and still dont make a minus.
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>>747653080
>what happens after wipe
you do the same shit
why are you acting like there won't be some no-life neckbeard who caps out in a week? We're already seeing people with the fucking havoc and artillery.
>>747653132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQvtvAvl-78&t=188s
it's also ingame in the menus as a loading tip.
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>>747592660
>kernel level anticheat
Shan't
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>>747653479
it's not?
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>>747653437
>literally and unironically leechmaxxing
Why do game devs come to /v/ to be retarded?
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>>747653745
You're complaining about shit taking too long to get yourself, and don't want to take advantage of other people playing it more than you, there's nothing to help you, you're a lost cause.
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>>747649613
I'm just going to buy the cheapest chest and just do infinite chest runs for easy xp and earn around 150 per trop. Waiting for someone is great for money but is shitty for xp
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>>747653798
>you VILL eat ze wipe
>you VILL grind ze same things in perpetuity
>you VILL leech off ze team and offer no benefit
>you VILL play ze game and make it successful
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>>747654113
>wahhhh wahhhh
>WAHHHHHH
cry more niggeroni.
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If you play this game youre a kike. Spiritially and or literally
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>>747654134
>steals other peoples things
>calls people nigger
do you really?
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>>747654241
>can't read
lmao
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>>747654223
so true king, only REAL gamers like us play nothing and sit on /v/ all day.
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>>747592660
>bane
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I just did some testing in the firing range and I figured out you can put concrete walls front-to-front to double up on them without really taking up too much space. It takes 7 C4 or 10 RPG rockets to blow up the outer concrete wall, and it won't even damage the inner wall until it's blown up, meaning it's going to take 14 C4 to get through a double concrete wall section.
or your teammates can just leave the gate open, that's also an option.
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>>747598119
blaze it fgt
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>>747600050
You can shoot a guy into the head with a rocket launcher and it wont kill.
This is sold as 'mil-sim' btw.
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>>747617304
Kek fuck that
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>>747637574
you just made me realize they should just do 2v2 on that map only, would be a cool little experiment (that would definitely succeed in better combat in the zone)
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>>747638878
If they dont season wipe new players will just get raped on repeat by old players and quit
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>>747652439
>pieces of it stolen by your teammates reviving
I'm not an asshole but I will ask and offer to use someone's galaxy gas to revive them if they have any. I learned you could loot bros by a guy saying he had some. I'm just not an asshole
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This game is an epitome of the state of the fucking industry.
I do not understand how this F2P feeling, completely lukewarm placeholder game is getting so much momentum (its because streamers and ads i know, this is gonna be one of those Meccha Chameleon things).
You start with one weapon, technically three or so at best, and most of them bad - THERE ARE NO SIDEARMS.
You do not even get loadouts.
The gunplay is complete ass, and i just got to underline this: the first sniper you get in the game won't kill on a headshot. On top of that sniping requires skill. You can have that its easy and wont kill - or hard and rewarding. Not both.
The unlock system is absolute placeholder - i do not know how they even greenlight this. How can anyone be excited about getting a new magazine for their weapon? On top of that; you're supposed to be a 'ELITE PMC' fighting in a modern warfare, and first TWO unlocks you get are 100 year old Soviet weapons.
How is this so fucking badly designed? The audio is fun tho i guess. There are so many issues; WarRock was F2P KOREAN FPS game like this over 15 years ago and was more content proof.
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>>747655671
>THERE ARE NO SIDEARMS
>there's a pistol
lmao trash post.
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>>747592660
core problem with the game: everyone just wants to make money. this discourages team play because you don't necessarily need to win to make any money. people fuck off and build useless FOBs or whatever and don't help anything. it almost begs the question: why bother trying to win or be on a team at all?
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>>747643989
>SVD does 33 dmg at medium range, so you hit ppl for 99 with bodyshots
BF6 is bad but you don't know what you're talking about
>m24at or whatever its called
and it shows
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>>747615940
Its even worse than that. I keep seeing red/blue fight each other while green builds a mega drill fob and just goes AFK until they win.
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>>747656507
just the opposite, I feel like money is worthless after you hit 1m or so and have the unlocks you're looking for. You can't go buy gold bars they cost like 3m per, so you just stockpile and no matter how much you spend you're almost guaranteed to make more.
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>>747648798
But the target demographic of these retarded games wants this gay shit instead of historical settings which actually involve the players more than just sitting 50 km away slinging drones and missiles at each other.
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Fucking americas army mogs this trash. Covid unironically ruined gaming just like everything else. There will never be a good game Made ever again but the reception would never show it. Remember re9 lol jesus fucking christ. The world is OVER
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>>747634695
>seasonal wipe
Is this true?
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>>747616934
Takes 0 effort if you don't suck ass
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>>747656981
yes, not like they've mentioned it since the announcement in february or anything.
There's a fucking core component to the game: gold bars that are reliant on season wipes.
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>>747656613
yes, it is worthless from the start and just a distraction. most people will quit and get bored when they have lots of money. the core gameplay is related to stacking money and nothing else.
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>>747656248
It's just Heroes & Generals all over again except you have to pay for it
I can only guess that this is babby's first military shooter for many, or that some people are just so craven and devoid of standards that they'll slurp up anything that plays vaguely like Battlefield to chase a high that ended 11 years ago.

Seeing the spirital successor to Red Orchestra 2, '83, release in early access with the quality you would expect from a closed dev pre-alpha build just leads me to believe that a lot of people, both devs and gamers alike, genuinely just don't care about quality at all, and will put the least amount of effort into making something and then turn their brains off and pretend that shit is gold to avoid facing the bitter reality of disappointment and failure which seems to be the earmark of this current decade.
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>>747657409
because you no longer HAVE to have a polished product. People will buy (yes, buy) anything, at any level of completion. They'll pay to beta test a game for you. That's what's happening here and with '83.
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>>747625002
Why would it take 3 shots from an SKS to kill someone?
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Yuuup... Those crates won't airdrop themselves....
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>>747657574
>XP gained
>100 pilot xp
>10,000 support xp
Nice you can build... the same shit as you could when you started the match.
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>>747657561
because of armor.
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>>747598119
for now.
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All the fights just take place inside the fobs which are tiny as fuck. Theyre smaller than fucking iceworld. Remove the fobs from the game completely and it could be good.
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>>747637589
I would love a game with the complexity of foxhole but not the perspective. That and more substantive logistics. I like the food system from anvil empires.
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>>747658478
Foxhole exposes the critical flaw of large scale logistics: guilds and clans will control it, even if it's in the best interest of the game to allow people in, they will not, because they want to be the ones to control everything.
It's shit, the game has been fucked for years because the devs refuse to slap them down and so every single war is earmarked by control of the mines and quarries minute 1.
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>>747658820
I have never understand this mentality. It just isn't true. Clanman has never controlled shit when it comes to resources. At most they can stockpile maybe an entire day or twos worth of supplies for a bunker base or a couple of boxed vehicles. The logistics issue is that resources are so fucking plentiful and magic that anyone can get whatever they need to make whatever they want. 99% of logistics is just moving shit around which isn't very interesting gameplay and the existing upgrade/tech systems are so shallow that there isn't really any reason to produce things past whatever is the cheapest mass producible gear and the absolute top of the line equipment. The only time you'll make something in the middle is for highly specialized timing sensitive planned attacks.
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I have a few issues with the game. One, there's too many god damn pilots every server I join. Two, I don't like how shit driving cars feels especially when you have to drive a huge amount from spawn to the zone. Otherwise I like the action when you get into it. Just get a free gun, shit on some retard with level 3 gear, take all his shit and begin to become an unstoppable terminator for no cost at all.
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>everyone in the thread: GOD THIS GAME SUCKS IM GRINDIGN FOR WHAT JUST TO FUCKING WIPE AND I CANT GET A TANK RIGHT NOW FUCK YOU ARGHH I WANT TO KEEP MY PROGRESS WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING HOW ITD MAKE THE GAME 100X WORSE GAMEPLAY WISE WITH EVERYONE DRIVING TANKS AND ATTACK HELIS AND SHIT AND NEVER DOING SUPPLY RUNS OR SUPPORT SHIT
>me: im having fun and i like this game.
It's a great game if you don't have autism and aren't a perpetually online retard
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>honeymoon already over
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>>747660532
I gotta admit I struggled at first but I think it will actually be kind of cool that only the most terminally neckbearded motherfuckers will have these top tier tools, and it will make them feel like an actual rarity on the field.
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>>747660532
or you could just make tanks expensive enough that players can't afford to use them constantly
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>>747660532
>yum yum yum i like slurping shit yum yum yum i eat dick
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>>747660532
>if you don't have autism
There's a surprising amount of fun in actually communicating to your teammates and coordinating on what to do
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>>747660621
this game is going to be unplayable in a week because of tanks, arti, gunships and ghillie snipers
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ghillie being undetectable by IR is fucking insane.
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>>747634695
>>season wipe
>tarkov carrot on a stick slop
guess i wont be buying
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>>747651706
It was fun day one but if you didnt slave on it for the first 48 hours you unironically get gear diffed the whole time
I was having a great time harassing helis with the rpg before it started taking 2-3 warheads to kill anything at all
Doesnt help that direct hits against infantry cause the warhead to completely vanish and deal no damage
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can someone explain why the money gimmick is even in this game?
I'm a peak casual and I pretty much never run out of money. Is it just for a flex? or just to go full loadout every run? I pretty much just buy what i need and just die anyway.
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>>747660996
and even those will be sat in the FOB by the drills afk farming vbucks
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>>747660893
>you're actually a goyslopper because youre having fun playing a fun game made by an entirely white dev team that has only white male character models
Ok.
>>747660929
Fair, I guess I was referring more to the "stomp feet because this doesnt make sense to me so i hate it" autists.
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A reminder this game and concept was so bad fucking tencent passed on it. You people are sheep.
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>>747661294
I can answer with one link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_WN-xTp7oU
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>>747661294
for gold bars to exchange for skins
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>>747661294
There's a mechanic called gold bars, which you can use money to convert into, to purchase skins/cosmetics/emotes. In the extended playtests and every alpha/beta they hovered around 200-300k, fluctuating depending on the amount of money being generated.
They raised it to like $2.5m base with the launch, so now no one will ever buy one, and there's never going to be a sink for money until season end when they forcibly convert it all anyway, so now everyone is stockpiling money because there's nothing to spend it on in amounts that would reduce the hoards.
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>>747641843
>>747641869
>>747642323
shill melty
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>>747657409
I played the RO2 beta and went through the antics of Tripwire. In comparison, this game is far more polished than what they've done. However, I do agree that this is what these squad based FPS games have come to, or rather, many games with early access.

These guys fucked up battalion 1944 with kickstarter, so they went a completely different approach for Wardogs to gain community trust which involves transparency, supposedly. We'll see if they don't pull the same mistakes as these other studios, or they'll drown with the rest.
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>>747661546
>jew game
>prints fiat
>crashes the economy
why can't kikes into economics
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>>747592660
>Didn't technology improve hundredfold?
what rock have you been hiding under?
it's all cucks, faggots, nons, & women making games now
we lost the technology
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>proton support rugpulled
At least I'm happy there's something in the Foxhole/Squad/Planetside 2 space
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>>747661883
It was never officially supported
EAC was causing more problems than it solved so it got the boot.
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It's weird that a defib kill is a cheevo but not fist kill.
defib is a genuine solid weapon in close quarters, it's hitbox is pretty much the size of a hallway in width, and extends out almost 2 players out distance.
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tried for two hours
>game teach you to go to hotzone
>nobody fucking does this because half of the playerbase are camping as sniper so the other half not going to hotzone to get bombarded by sniper either
>nobody doing anything with fortified FOB because you just can't do anything when half of the match is just snipers
>one team will inevitably get 0 points because it's shitter/late joiner team which will just cycling into quitter
>whole team just huddle in their hug FOBox because they want to get money and not get sniped
suck
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>>747663058
>nobody doing anything with fortified fob
because you're not building the rig.
build the rig
YOU have to do it
everyone else is a fucking retard. This should be apparent, you didn't learn this as a kid? EVERYONE but you is retarded. Treat life with that mantra and you succeed. Try to empathize and you fail.
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>>747661540
>>747661546
>>747661510
so its pretty much a useless mechanic to try to trick the kalshi/gambling addicts to keep playing?
There is no player economy, there is really no purpose. It could have been called anything, but since they slapped a dollar sign on it, i guess some peoples neurons get activated.
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I really just want planet side 3 where you park your car and have endless gunfight
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>>747663205
I think that the intention is to make gold bars worth buying mid-season, but just like 90% of the rest of the game (like loadouts) it's "not ready yet".

There will be a black market down the line. Right now the only item that appears in the black market is bandages, but there may be specific time sensitive skins, or even powerful equipment you can buy for gold bars (like tanks or arty or havocs or other things you may not have the level to get on your own). But again, only thing in it is bandages.

They fucked up gold REALLY bad, cause otherwise it would have functioned just fine. I'm cautiously interested in seeing if they make a wide sweeping change by the start of the next season, and if any players actually manage to get the THIRTY bars ($70m+) for the limited edition skin.
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>>747663058
>nobody wants to lose their money to random snipers
>everyone decides to play scout/sniper to farm passive income without dying
>nothing happens in the match and everyone is just sitting around because they dont want to lose
who is this game for? Im going to keep playing it for a bit to figure it out, but im about 5 hours in and its just a game about sitting around hoping you dont die.
there really should be other map objectives other than just a few towers to control/hold
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>>747663058
>esl
opinion discarded
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>>747663402
if i had a dollar for every early access dev that had some "fix all" solution down the line, I would be able to rebuy all of them.
I guess ill hold my breath and cope for now.
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>>747663335
No other game has really scratched that itch. Its such a shame that planetside is owned by daybreak. Someone really needs to make another MMO BF2 style clone
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I think it's fun
I like that you can just fuck off and do what want or fill whatever niche role and earn money and contribute to the win
Love me some sneeki breeki behind enemy lines sniping
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>>747663562
I agree, just saying the system WAS there and DID work in the earlier tests, it worked really nicely actually, cause gold was worth getting. If it ssank down to like 200k a bar you'd want to stock up cause that's a great price, it could soar to 300k the next day. At 3m no one's gonna bother ever because who cares? that's 150 tanks you could buy.
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i like the concept but can't handle more than 20-40 minutes at a time
usually join a new match, fly heli until the apc spawns and then chase the hot zone for a while
if i die 2-3 times in a row i just leave and try a new match
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>>747663939
I didn't know this game came out on Gameboy Color
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I never find joy in gun game where you die in half a second by someone hold left click behind you
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>>747664083
buy armor retard
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>>747664083
that's the beauty of it
don't participate in that element of the gun game.
Find a big fuckoff rocket then go blow up cars and helicopters
follow around other people who are better at shooting with defibrilators and then laugh at enemies that die.
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>>747664083
This game has ridicilously long TTK what the fuck you talking about? You cannot even get one-shot by a sniper or an RPG.
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>>747663939
>1080p
>no AA
>minimum shadows and texture resolution
>gotta have those water reflections though
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>>747664307
It's crazy to me that people can just post something so definitively, not having played the game for even a minute or even watched gameplay of it.
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>>747664307
rpgs oneshot people easily
you're probably just a retard who who doesn't understand arming distance
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i wish things would unlock faster
saw a video of a guy who had calculated that you need 50-60 hours of grind to unlock the attack heli or tank
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>>747664561
Those both assume you're doing purely logistics.
You can shave the pilot timing down with taxiing people (very easy to do with a heli) and getting kills.
Driving you can ferry (lol if you have friends) or get kills (with m249 variants).
The amount of kvetching about the tank in the beta is clearly why the tank is now locked behind driving.
I'm more interested why the artillery vehicle is classified as stronger, later in the driver track, but comes at wardogs 90 which people are getting to now, whereas the highest driver I've seen was JUST hittin 28 yesterday.
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>>747592660
The first day was fun but now that the meta settled the game flow is completely and utterly fucked sideways. The game is at its best when at least 80% of the lobby is chasing the HZ. Unfortunately however people realized there is zero incentive to chasing the HZ so the meta devolved into FOB maxing and the map is just scattered with sparse groups of 1-4 people doing fuck all. Which in turn fuels nobody going to the HZ. There’s no incentive for winning either so it’s a complete dice roll on that end.
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>>747664503
Go to training mode, shoot a guy with level 1 helmet to the head with RPG. Wont kill.
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>>747663939
>if i die 2-3 times in a row i just leave and try a new match
I think the money system is what causes matches to become such blowouts. a lot of people just give up or leave to stem the money loss while the leading team just chills uncontested. Game is starting to be boring and predictable. I never see big pushes to try to take over drill fobs or anything like that.
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>>747664503
It doesn't, the RPG is actually dogshit and only useful against logi trucks and SUV's, it does almost no damage to structures and bizarrely little damage to enemies.
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>>747592660
I stopped buying FPS games since the old call of duty games. I don't understand this genre. All these people just buy whatever the next slop game is. It used to be everyone played counterstrike... now people play every flavor of the month shooter. That's all wardogs is. Another flavor of the month shooter that Dr. Disrespect type gamers mindlessly play. THey are all the same bullshit ever since pub G and fortnite or whatever.
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It's crazy that they did multiple playtests and mortars are still so good they decide almost every round.
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>>747665017
See >>747664783
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>>747665017
>I never see big pushes to try to take over drill fobs or anything like that.
I do but it's always against my team lmao
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>>747665017
I literally just got out of a game where our main base got mortard to death, we took over blue's base, red built up the church and mortard the fuck out of us, we breached the church long enough to build up our own mortars and kept them at bay, I built the drill and we won by like 10 points. I looked at the scoreboard and I was top earner at like 197K
You just need to be on a team willing to communicate and strategize other than just sniping or jerking off at the base doing nothing.
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>>747665208
>RPG does nothing. 3 fucking rockets to blow up a basic bitch logistics truck.
>Have to unlock the bigger Rocket lawncher at level 20 if you want to actually blow thing ups
>Also we are resetting your progression again
I feel utterly rugpulled by this game. Potential game.
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>>747664449
try shooting someone with level 3 or 4 armor lol. while you die in two bullets. you'd thinkt he game would balance it out by making you slow as fuck or unable to jump with heavy armor
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>>747665717
It literally does make you slower and unable to sprint if you're too heavy
Again, you haven't played the game.
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>>747592660
>Why is it impossible for devs to make a 1942 or joint ops 25+ years later.
I just accept im not 8 years old anymore and my expectation of games is higher.
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I like the core idea of the game but the execution just sucks. 3 main changes I would make are:
>increase the player count to 3 teams of 50
>make it so the HZ gives quadruple rewards instead of double (or whatever I don’t know the exact multiplier)
>simplify the ammo system so you don’t need multiple magazines in your inventory, just raw ammo
>let people buy ATVs at FOBs
Also using Tarkov as the foundation is kinda gay. For me, after some internal deliberation, I would use Black Ops 4. Uplift the movement, gunplay, and aesthetic from that.
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>>747665857
no it doesnt, you aim the exact same speed as lvl 1 armor. have you played the game? i got lvl 4 armor and helmet and im literally unkillable
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>>747665857
>if you're too heavy
yeah so nothing to do with the lvl 4 armor you fucking idiot.
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I'm still amazed by how people accurately predicted how the teams behave before release
>Blue: Dogshit
>Red: Semi-competent
>Green: Filled with actually decent players
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>>747666541
>predicted
you mean pointing out how the teams oriented themselves in the betas throughout august, the alphas throughout july, and the extended playtests since april? Yeah, sure, 'predicted'.
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This game sounds similar to planetside 2 except the team sizes are fucking tiny in comparison. Having multiple platoons (48 people) just on one side along with plenty of squads (up to 12 people) roaming around was pretty normal. Then having enemy platoons from both factions converge on one hex led to big hour long battles.

Having only 100 players split 3 ways in a match on a big ass map sounds pretty awful when there's also such a big emphasis on support/logi play.
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>>747666541
I've been seeing blue actually get their shit together somewhat, they still lose 99% of games but they figured out how to build mortars in some of the games I've been in.
At this rate they'll have figured out how to build drills in a few weeks.
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>>747667619
ironically, it's because the streamers have been instructed to play blue. go look at shroud and that vtuber guy they play nothing but blue now after only playing green in the betas.
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>>747667568
It wouldn't really work unless they change the spawning mechanics, as it is you have to get a helicopter ride or drive a few minutes to get to the objective, you can only spawn at the APC every 8 minutes or something like that.
If you had a hundred people running around in every fight and dying every 30 seconds like in planetside you'd run out of money.
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call of duty warzone was doing 150 players with crossplatform with next level graphics and audio on a fucking ps4 but this pc exclusive game built almost 10 years later can only do 100 players. lol lmao even.
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>>747667714
>go look at shroud
no, I don't care about streamers.
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>>747667887
well the devs do, they give them free money and items to their vault to let them show things off.
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they are just colors
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>>747667985
I don't care, they can give them fucking nukes if they want I'll just join a different server.
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>>747666541
Color theory is one of those woo-woo hippie bullshit things like Feng Shui or astrology that you think is just made up to give some california faggot a job but it's actually very real and color influences most people's choices/opinions/thoughts in some way every day.
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>>747598613
I played kirby air ride music: item bounce every time some one is reviving me
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something I've noticed from my own personal experience playing the game:
playing with a stack of 10+ people that you know makes the game a lot more enjoyable because you can coordinate actions and logi and do cool stuff like raid FOBs or drive a transport full of dudes into the HZ and take it over.
playing with only a small group or solo sucks and isn't very fun because you can't really coordinate anything since the randoms on your team will most likely ignore you and you'll spend most of any given match milling about aimlessly since you don't have enough firepower by yourself to affect anything major.
I would probably not like this game if I only played solo
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>>747669136
The irony in it is that you have to squad up for the big shit to get the levels in a reasonable amount of time to be ABLE to solo. Tanks are 3 man tops, and 2 man generally. Havocs/black hawks are 2 man max.
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>>747669136
I like building, transporting, doing logi, and mortaring and pretty much all of those things are fine to do solo. Obviously you still need a team but I never felt like I was outmatched simply because I didn't have a squad.
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I can't wait for the steam numbers to drop so the BF/Cod faggots leave and people who can actually communicate are what's left.
R-right?
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>>747669519
Depends on how many people stick around. I think that ultimately the game gets to a point they wind down/kill off most servers, maybe loan them out for competitive events , and try to get people to play on community servers. I don't think anyone playing on official servers will communicate, it will mostly be community servers that have communication.
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I just unlocked the big chopper and with 30 minutes of pallet logi I'm basically swimming in cash.
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>>747632953
>and CoDniggers truly cannot be satiated and don't know what you actually want
cod:uo
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>>747629432
And everybody got disappointed by it after playing. Wardogs players actually like the game.
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>>747669620
I already face this issue in HLL and I'm unsure of Squad since I haven't played it when ICO got introduced.
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>>747664021
this is just what UE5 looks like without the smeared temporal upscaling shit
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>>747670319
I think it's not unreasonable for wardogs to keep 150k-ish players after the first wipe, and then I think it will get kneecapped by GTA in november and probably get down to under 100k or maybe even around to 50k, and then will probably stabilize.
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>>747665293
Too busy doing "here's how transparent we are" PR talk videos instead of actually fixing shit and listening to feedback, please understand.
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>>747661546
>2.5m
that's not even that much people are already sitting at 5m+
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>>747671047
Cool, 2.5*30 for ONE skin.
and most people at $5m have been exploiting or are streamers.
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why does the game lag a shitload when you try to open the inventory with FSR on?
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the only fun to be had in this game is griefing people and dragging enemy dead bodies to make a pile of alive dead bodies. the gameplay is worse than those free chinese korean shooters from 20 years ago
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>>747663939
you should be put in jail for raping my eyes with that screenshot
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>*ground spawns in in front of you when you step on it*
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>>747592660
It's a game for larpniggers who like taking a helicopter taxi to the fight every single life only to get sniped by a fag hiding in a bush. Literally the most boring game ever.
>muh cod
>muh battlefield
This game just sucks and HLL is better. RS2 was better. Insurgency is better. Arma is better.
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>>747673087
Then why do none of those games have players?
why do none of those games ever have threads?
Why does nobody talk about any of those games?
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>>747673331
streamers dont shill them and they dont bend over for streamers or suck them off on xitter
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>>747673087
>helicopter taxi to the zone
>Everyone gets shot off the drop because the pilot is a greedy nigger who wants to drop everyone in the hot zone.
I think im better off driving
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>>747673331
>why isn't the game shilled enough
wat
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>>747673449
usually more like
>pilot is dogshit and doesn't know how to land so he forces them to chute in
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>>747673421
sounds like they should
if it's that easy why doesn't every game do it? You'd think with these AAA developers cranking out hundreds of millions of dollars on marketing they would be able to compete.
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>>747673516
because it's gay you stupid faggot. and tripwire is tripwire. you can find full servers in hll no problem.
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I miss being a pilot and landing, used to do that a lot in the betas. I admit I was pretty good. But I didn't buy the game.

That's about the only thing I regret from not getting the game.
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It's going to be a fun game but it'll be forever bogged down by the team sizes and logistics. Because logistics is such a central aspect to the game you're always going to have more than the necessary amount of people needed running it which means less doing the actual fighting but nerfing logistics too much means everything else suffers. I don't see them ever finding the balance between the two.
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>>747673449
just buy a parachute and jump out the moment the heli enters the cz
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>>747673516
>HLL
>RS2
>Insurgency
>Arma
>AAA
Oh OK I was just responding to an actual fucking idiot. Nevermind then. Carry on.
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>>747673808
>hey are numbers are falling significantly here at Microsoft, should we use streamers to promote the new call of duty so we can all collect raises and avoid downsizing?
>nah someone on an anonymous image board said it's gay
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>>747673331
NTA but those games have a few normie filters built into what makes them magic
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>>747673840
make it 50v50

boom, solved
>buh arma3koth had 3 teams!!!
and? who fucking cares
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>>747667619
>>747667714
Many blue wins I've noticed are because big premades are more easily able to fill out the team due to its unpopularity
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>game so popular it takes well over a day for a thread to hit bump limit
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>>747656248
>The gunplay is complete ass, and i just got to underline this: the first sniper you get in the game won't kill on a headshot.
The gunplay is mid to bad. But you don't understand what gunplay is, it has very little to do with damage.
>On top of that sniping requires skill. You can have that its easy and wont kill - or hard and rewarding. Not both.
Ok mr games rules guy. First sniper is shit on purpose to punish all the snipper timmies like you beelining for that shit to be a waste of a server slot
>How can anyone be excited about getting a new magazine for their weapon?
Why do we need to cum in our pants every single unlock?
>you're supposed to be a 'ELITE PMC' fighting in a modern warfare, and first TWO unlocks you get are 100 year old Soviet weapons
It's not a roleplay or story game,unlocks aremeant to be gameplay first with a slight flavour of narrative.
Ak-74 fits the early game gameplay needs by being a gun gamers consider higher recoil, while still bein lower-end intermediate cart with higher velocity. Perfectly encapsualating the AR SMG difference. SMGs get low recoil high RoF low velocity, ARs get higher recoil, lower RoF, but higher velocity and a smidge higher damage per shot
Current US service rifle is 32yo. PMCs use what they can get
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I do not understand why the map is so big and why the spawn is so far away from the cz always. The whole appeal of the big map was shit could happen at your spawn. There were flags close to your spawn. There is no reason for the spawn to be so far away, nothing fucking ever happens at your spawn, enemies cant even enter close to your spawn. It's just a timesink every time you die to get to the action to the cz miles away. Performative game from performative devs.
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>>747673087
warslop sucking does not mean hell let loose is better. hll is garbage in its own way. the only good fps released in the last decade has been rising storm 2
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>>747674384
I've also noticed that blue almost always has 10+ people with the same clan tag
they still lose though lol
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>>747674839
>the only good fps released in the last decade has been rising storm 2
I know.
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>>747674730
What if you play more carefully, and stay close to your team for more likely revives in case you get hit?
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>>747674686
>Why do we need to cum in our pants every single unlock?
I agree with you but at that point why even make it an unlock at all? Just give us all the attachments to a gun right off the bat instead of using them to pad the unlock system.
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>>747674975
Not even the point I'm making. The game is performative. There is no thought or reason to the design and systems. Might be an AI generated game honestly.
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>>747674730
>enemies can't enter close to your spawn
There's nothing stopping you from driving/flying to 100 yards outside of their spawn and shooting helicopters and logi trucks. People just don't do it because there's more action at the front, if you could imagine that.
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>>747673840
I would like the control zone (not the hot zone) to be like 20% bigger and teams to be 50 players each. At least 40 players each. I think its fucking stupid that with 100 players, one team is always going to have 1 more player than the rest. Probably doesnt matter much but just seems odd to be unbalanced like that by design.
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>the server browser is literally, and I mean literally, the same as HLL's server browser
>they didnt even change the layout or picture size or anything
kek the fuck kind of scam game is this?
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>>747674730
Because part of the game is transport and logistics with vehicles, it takes a few seconds to get anywhere in a chopper
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>>747675209
its the same publisher, maybe some HLL devs helped out with that.
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>>747675209
It's almost like they're both published by team17 and the teams work together closely.
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>>747592660
I was shocked to find out it doesn't have multichannel audio support... in 2026... in UE5...
inept devs, that's a feature that comes out of the box
don't give me Atmos, but at least 5.1/7.1!
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>>747675085
Long spawn distance is there as an incentive to give logi and medic some weight.
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>>747675301
>publisher releases two competing games about a week apart
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>>747592660
Probably. Looks stupid and I'm not interested in multiplayer. It was good as an optional feature in The Division. Not as the main thing.

Delta Force is free. And has a campaign. That might be ok. But might also just be homosexual pedophile propaganda like whatever POS wardogs is. I'm not a fan of assholes trying to redefine the army into their smug shit.
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>>747675453
NTA but I don't give a shit about WW2 settings.
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>>747675450
everything about this game is hypothetical. all these systems hypothetically work together, but in reality they don't. it's a bunch of mechanics with no real cohesion. it's slop
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>>747675453
>competing
to who?
literally no competition in these besides "slightly more realistic oriented fps".
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im liking the game but man am i a shitter at it
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PUBG devs need to make a big team battle game already. None of these niggers know how to develop a game.
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>>747675687
99% of people are, find what you're good at and git guder at it.
I can't aim for shit so I mostly use buckshot and just pepper enemies in close quarters like fob takes, I get plenty of assists, and do medic shit otherwise.
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>>747673087
>HLL is better
HLL used to be better but the devs casualized it with automatic guns being available to every class and ruined it
>RS2 was better
true
>insurgency is better
insurgency sandstorm is good but had its potential kneecapped by the retard devs trying to make it into an esport back when it came out
>ARMA is better
doing anything in ARMA feels like liquid shit. moving feels clunky, shooting feels clunky, vehicles feel clunky. the movement and shooting in wardogs doesn't feel amazing but it's easily better than Arma in that department.
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>"I love milsims!!"
>"but I would never ever ever play Squad or Arma Reforger!"
the wardogs community in a nutshell
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>>747676012
yes, that is me, I like the idea of milsim but not the 40 year old niggers screeching about setting up teamspeak and ACE and other stupid bullshit larpers love. wardogs is everything I've wanted from a milsim game, and I'll probably get bored of it in a month but I'm loving the hell out of it right now.
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>>747676012
Most of the people playing wardogs are squad or arma players nigga, you're creating phantoms in your head and shadowboxing with them
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>>747676207
you mean battlefield 6 refugees lol
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>>747676258
Yeah and gunz online refugees are flooding the kenshi multiplayer servers
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>>747592660
It feels like a battle royale game they repurposed into the worst version of KOTH ever made after they saw the BR fad slowly die out.
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>>747676173
> but not the 40 year old niggers screeching about setting up teamspeak and ACE and other stupid bullshit larpers love
I knew someone would say this shit
literally not an issue, at worst they tell you to get off a certain role like sniper but they tend to be chill about it, expecially if you tell them you're a noob. You just want a milsim that plays exactly like battlefield so you can claim you're better than the normies playing bf.

>>747676207
and that's where they'll go back eventually.
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>>747676642
>I knew someone would say this
yeah exactly I tried and that happened to me and I stopped playing and immediately uninstalled. If your game needs other shit to be playable, suck a dick and die. I don't care if someone's "chill", fuck you nigger, I'm playing how I want to play.
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I like driving truck
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>>747676642
>and that's where they'll go back eventually.
I'm not sure what this has to do with your schizophrenic hallucinations
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>>747592660
>The visuals are nice I'll give it that
hll has better graphics and that came out 10 years ago. and ive yet to see nighttime in this game
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>>747676758
I've played squad and never once was asked to set up teamspeak or any other VC system. You're delusional

>>747676786
>schizo schizo
get a grip retard
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>>747676973
it really seems like you're schizophrenic. I hope you get the help you need anon.
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>>747676781
I like being a truckbro. Load up of supps and deliver, put a podcast on, and help the team.

But I also wanna practice flying more cause ithe heaviness and the momentum is a bit harder. Plus one ding and the thing explodes.
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>>747674990
Incremental improvements, a money sink, teaches players they don't HAVE to go out with a sight, grip and muzzle every single time, makes it fun scavenging early in the wipe
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>>747677161
firing range is really good for practicing.
Make sure you turn on mouse control for flight, it helps SO much with minute adjustments (and also makes aiming the miniguns viable). Practice practice practice, crash crash crash.
If you want my recommendation, practice taking off, getting high, and coming in for a landing. Don't have to be going fast, just practice landing at all, that's what most people can't do lol.
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personally I went back to rising storm vietnam
>rockets actually kill vehicles
>commander and squad role coordination
>more racist voip roleplay
>less gearqueering
and honestly that's all I need. the logi stuff was interesting but ends up kinda just being set dressing. maybe if wardogs achieves these things I will give it another shot
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>>747676012
I have over 1000 hours in both squad and HLL, and about 800 in reforger
This game isn't a milsim and it's not even fucking close to one.
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>>747677435
>rockets actually kill vehicles
???
I've had lots of problems with wardogs but I've never had a rocket fail to kill something I point it at.
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man this game is going to die so fucking fast
it hasnt even been a week and you can already tell that the high tier gear is going to be a complete fun killer
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>>747663680
>Its such a shame that planetside is owned by daybreak
>he doesn't know
It's Tencent now. They have no control over Planetside 2, but the bought the planetside IP so maybe MAYBE something will come of it in the future
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I'm sick of eastern european shitholes as a setting. When are we getting western european shitholes?
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>>747674730
CZ feels big when starting out. It's actually not that big. Already I had people setting up sam sites and ambushes outside it
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>>747666541
blue has always the complete dogshit spawn on every map because the devs are retarded
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>>747677446
Bro this game is fucking call of duty with an inventory screen
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>>747642323
no you see, you have to drive teh truck to the front, then drive it back to base, then... drive it to the front again! see you get monies for doing that!!!
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>>747676389
kenshi multiplayer servers? what? there's multiplayer?????
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This game gives me the urge to play black ops 4. I don’t know why.
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>>747677776
There's different ways you can play. You can drive truck, you can be sniper, you can build base, you can fire the mortar
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>>747668428
This is true, I see a lot of people saying red just wants to fight and I went red consecutively for this reason before I read all this colour shit
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>streamers have already stopped playing it
Shart Raiders 2.0
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>>747598303
The only good poster in this thread.
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>>747676973
>schizo schizo
This but unironically, funny the person who has to hallucinate people in his head to be mad atand project that onto the people he's talking to to justify his public meltdowns is telling others to get a grip. You should take your medicine and stop being a bored faggot.
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>>747679658
well they didn't pay the streamers much so naturally once viewers started getting bored they'd move on.
Also, if you want the serious answer, the twitch drops ended so they're not getting wicked inflated numbers anymore.
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>already lost half its playerbase in just a few days
ooof
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>>747681536
this thread was already dead 3 days after launch; the game will be dead by next week all things considered.
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>>747681689
well they're on /vg/ instead. why sit on /v/ where everyone's crying about it and making up delulu bullshit?
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>>747674839
such as shame about '83. I'm so glad i was able to play rs2 during it's golden years when there were many populated servers
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>you'll make a lot of money driving supplies to FOB

Whoever said that shit go and fucking die.
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>>747683331
no one anywhere ever said that. That's the best exp for driving early on, the money comes from building shit at a fob, you get like 10k for building a drill rig or CIWS, just build, dismantle, repeat until you run out of build supplies.



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