>>747594592
>Left Classic devs
It's not classic devs you idiot, it's retail devs as well, they were moved onto the project
The entire WoW Forever game is on the retail engine

>>747594752
this

>>747594752
separate dev team actually

>lets make a race that look like the blue trannies from shadowlands no one liked and ruined the last bit of good lore we had (arthas)

>>747594752
retail devs who requested to be moved from retranny to the classic project so they could make real women yes

kill blizzshit players and devs

>>747595171
no actually, the SoD team was separate at first, then they had the retail team come in for WoW Forever to help port classic into the retail engine and make the new content

nigga they are the same troon devs unirically, did you even watch the whole convention?

>>747595423
>Sod + members of retail to fill spots
yeah we call that a different dev team with different leads... goals... have you never worked a job before?

>>747596059
nono, you said separate, it's not a completely separate team, the bones of WoW Forever is WoW Retail, it's why the WoW Retail showing this year was so weak, Retail devs developed all the new content for WoW Forever
It's fundamentally a different flavor of Retail

I never played wow
Didn't they release a classic version years ago?

>>747594592
>yeh we guarantee the new quests certainly wont include wingmanning for a gay couple and financing a dwarf troon transition
Way too early to sound a victory.

>Dood, pay $15 monthly +$30 to play the SAME FUCKING GAME from 20 years ago... but with a new RAID

Who the FUCK is this for?

>dynamic servers
Wow, such a comfy sense of community meeting nothing but randoms every time I log in! This is the classic I love

>>747594752
classic has always been on the retail engine. first thing they said when they started it was that they could not make the old vanilla engine run with modern stuff, so they had to rebuild it piece by piece on retail. that is why they did phases instead of an accurate patch progression.

>>747594752
classic wow rerelease was also on the retail engine. the gameplay is still classic wow moron it's such a low iq take to see retail ui elements and say the game is retail wow, especially when it's toggleable and everyone uses addons anyway

>>747598104
this is a new version of classic for people that like retail.

>>747598686
what about it is retail wow? it has a few skills from tbc and wotlk and it plays like classic wow

>>747594592
I never played wow past burning crusades, the trailer seems pretty onions and gay, where is the war and death and fighting?

>>747598785
>it plays like classic wow
no it doesn't, there's tons of quality of life changes according to the blizzcon attendees that tried it. rogue's have retail energy ticks and combo points are bound to your character instead of enemies for 1 example. so you have retail skills, retail resource tickets, and retail mechanics that heavily impact how classes play at a base level.

>>747594592
What do you guys think about the new elf factions.
I think high elves makes sense for alliance,
the other elves don't really seem "primitive" enough to fit in with the others.

Harbour additions seemed reasonable though.
And the new areas looked fitting.

>>747598917
can you post more that 1 change that is even close to retail, and can you post actual retail skills that are in the game? the game has more in line with turtlewow than it does with retail, you still aren't doing wall to wall pulls. 1 rogue qol change isn't a retail skill

>>747599320
>can you post actual retail skills that are in the game?
restless blades for one. nerds already put together all the talents from the live streams because wow players can't go 5 minutes without trying to min/max.
https://talentsforever.com/

devs confirmed there's no raid buffs at all(you can view this as a positive) and i'm going to assume that warriors have the same rage formula as retail. so i assume they'll also gain rage through effects like pw:s/void walker shield.

>you still aren't doing wall to wall pulls.
from the dungeons we saw, that's very possible if you stack group with classes can actually aoe. a single mage was aoeing down pulls with ease on stream and the rogue and druid couldn't aoe, nor could the warrior. improved blizzard didn't get cut, you can wall to wall pull and paladin tanks are fucking insane if you look at their talents.

>>747599840
>restless blades for one
It's a cool ability

>i'm going to assume that warriors have the same rage formula as retail.
So no evidence?

>from the dungeons we saw, that's very possible if you stack group with classes can actually aoe. a single mage was aoeing down pulls with ease on stream and the rogue and druid couldn't aoe, nor could the warrior. improved blizzard didn't get cut, you can wall to wall pull and paladin tanks are fucking insane if you look at their talents.
I suppose spell cleave boosting wasn't a thing in Classic Era or Anniversary...

>>747600282
>So no evidence?
let's think this through, if rogues are following retail for energy ticks how do you think rage generation will be handled? look at those talents, spells like riptide are in classic+, spells like lava burst, spells like arcane blast, penance, shadow word death, prayer of mending, etc etc etc.

>I suppose spell cleave boosting wasn't a thing in Classic Era or Anniversary...
don't move the goalposts here, you said it wasn't gonna happen but it obviously is. people will stack classes that can aoe, bring a paladin tank, and it's gonna be shattered halls heroic all over again.

The last time I played was cataclysm. What is classic, what is classic+, and what is wow forever? I asked my friend who's excited about it but he was either incapable or unwilling to define any of these.

>>747600671
>What is classic, what is classic+, and what is wow forever?
Horseshit you can comfortably remain ignorant about, avoid wasting time and money on a cancerous travesty of a company and enjoy other things instead.