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Metroid is back, baby.
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I’m nonbuynary.
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>>747597342
Metroid has risen
Millions must have fun
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>>747597342
>1 and 2 are Sakamoto games
>3 is a Sakurai game
Miyamoto BTFO
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That's actually crazy. Imagine if they suddenly did a switch 2 patch for it like they did mario kart 8 deluxe.
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>>747598349
Not saying it doesn't need a switch 2, but what would a switch 2 patch entail? the only thing I can think of is 4k/60 fps and 120fps/1080p (or is it 2K? i don't remember) and on handheld. Were there any notoriously bad parts in the game held back by switch 1 hardware?
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>>747597749
miyamoto doesn't make games anymore
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>>747598846
120 fps would be nice, yeah.
Silksong runs at 120 fps and it looks smooth as fuck.
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>>747597749
I am glad that sakamote learned from his mistakes with Other M, other devs would have double down on them.
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>>747598846
I mean ravenous is gonna run at 120fps so why not just add it to dread
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Mercurytroid Fusion
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>>747598846
>>747599278
We know Ravenous is getting 120fps support, so that would be nice for Dread, I guess, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it
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Metroid Bread
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>>747597342
Samus belongs to the spaniards now
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>>747600624
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>>747597342
This is bad because Dread was extremely mediocre, so this just reinforces that devs only need to continue to make mediocre games to be successful thanks to the overpopulation of the idiot masses
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>>747601056
>Dread was extremely mediocre
Shit taste. Probably a fusionfag
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SAMUS IS FOR ________
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how's Dread on Switch 1? is it decent performance-wise?
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Metroid would probably be a 7+ million seller if they did heavy discounts like Capcom does for its games
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>>747601326
It's 60fps most of the time, but there are a few parts where it drops, so Switch 2 is a lot better
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>>747601326
gameplay is 60fps but the cutscenes are 30, it feels weird sometimes
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>>747601135
Anal
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>no more emmis taking over the map
>better music
These niggas already got the movement and combat down. Now that the emmis are gone I expect a much better map, too. I'm excited bros.
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I was gonna buy prime 4
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>>747601949
the ninjas are the new emmi
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>>747601135
Gang rape
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>>747602072
And now you can actually fight them, so that makes them automatically better
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>>747601949
They literally showed a not-emmi segment. Dread trailers had more interesting music than the game
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>>747602065
Do it. It still feels more like metroid than what these spics make
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This sale is bullshit. There are a bunch of Switch 1 games I skipped because I didn't want to pay $60. 5-8 years, they are $42 on sale. Would it really kill Nintendo to let me buy an 8 year old game for $30?
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>>747602065
You can, but its not worth the hours you put into it
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>>747597342
Are the emmi segments too annoying? I'm too stupid for stealth and hate escape sequences.
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>>747602298
Lol no. Prime is not real Metroid and never has been.
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>>747603321
They're really not that bad. The worst thing about them is just how formulaic they become by the end.
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>>747603476
it’s says Metroid on the cover so it’s a Metroid game. like saying Mario 64 is not a real mario game.
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>>747597342
Pls respond. What Xenoblade do I get? 1 or 2?
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>>747603476
>Lol no. Prime is not real Metroid

Well, maybe it should be.
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>>747604376
1, and only 1. Pretend the trilogy ends there.
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>>747604376
Both, but play 1 first.
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>>747604376
1

Playing Dread for rhe first time. Yeah, it's fucking kino. Just made it back from Elun.

What a fucking game. Ravenous is gonna ve fucking incredible.
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>>747602065
don't
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>>747603321
not really, its mostly running through the areas from one end to the other until you have the upgrade you need to reach the central computer
the layout can be confusing but its not too bad
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>>747597342
But what about Prime 4?
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>>747604376
Both.
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>>747604489
Primefags so utterly fucked by what Prime 4 turned out to be that they go back to holding onto Prime 1 for validation. such a pitiful sight.
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>>747602065
prime 4 is better than the average modern game
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>>747597342
Lets fucking go!!
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>>747605801
When done right Prime is peak Metroid.
4 just wasn't it.
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>30% off in a 5 year old 2d side scroller
>this is considered a big sale
I hate jewtendo so fucking much
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>>747600880
Cute
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>>747604376
X
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>>747597342
Oh shit its been on my wishlist for years is this the first time its been on sale
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can these nintendo shills shut the fuck up already youre like taking a shit on the board and saying HEE EHEE LOOK AT IT!!111
nobody fucking cares faggot, fuck off
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>>747601135
Metroids
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it's a shame ravenous isn't cross-gen, metroid needs all the sales it can get
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>>747597342
Being #1 in the eshop mean dick all with how poorly games are selling. That's like, what, 600 copies?
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>>747606068
cared enough to reply ;^)
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>>747597342
>41.99 for a 6 year old game that looks worse than random indie trash
Have Bingtendo no shame? IF it was like $14.99, it would sell gangbusters.
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>>747600880
I'm kinda tired of these lithe new suits. I want a game where Samus is a fucking tank again.
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I miss when Metroid was good. Last decent 3D Metroid was prime 3. Last good 2D Metroid was fusion. Everybody that gasses up the mercury steam entries/ prime 4 is a slop consuming tranny. Development should return to Japan. Modern Retro is too far gone and mercury steam just doesn’t understand everything that brings together the whole Metroid package.
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>>747605801
Prime 1 was held above 2 and 3 before 4 was even out though.
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So is Prime 4 a flawed but still fun enough game or is it simply a skip?
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Am I supposed to get constantly lost in Zero Mission? Also is there seriously zero story in the game? Just beat the giant crocodile thing and there has been literally zero dialogue.
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>>747606068
lol SEETHING
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>>747606427
Skip, it's a bad game.
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>>747606437
i didn't really get lost on my playthrough, or i don't remember. its pretty straightforward, (although not too linear like fusion)
>no story/dialogue
yeah man isn't it great
at least some anons say so
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>>747606427
Skip.
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>>747597342
Meteorite is not "back" because a bunch of new movie game fans have migrated to meteoroid and think they have to play Dread in order to understand the new cutscene focused shonen/spiderverse/samurai jack hype moments and aura game. You got the negroes and the powerscalers buying a game that they don't even want that they'll hate but Ravenous will do well financially and critically with this new audience and that's all metroid will be from now on. It won't be like the actual good metroid movie other m, or like the outdated other games that you fags love so much where every power is just a key and you spend 90% of the game backtracking. It won't even be like based prime 4 which held a mirror to you faggots' faces and showed you exactly what you're like with that character you all hate, picrel. From now on, it's just going to be fighting cutscenes.
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>>747606427
Hard skip.
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>>747606437
broccoli hair post
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>>747606732
>Meteorite
Phoneposter, post invalidated
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>>747606732
>meteorite
>meteoroid
Literal bot post
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>>747606427
skip
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>>747606437
Playing Metroid for the story is like eating soup for the spoon.
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>>747606437
There's basically no story until Fusion
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>>747606427
I thought it was disappointing and flawed with some sore spots, but I still had fun overall playing it. I'd feel worse paying full price for it, but I basically got to write off the cost, since I just played it on release then gave it to my brother-in-law for Christmas since he wanted it. I think it's skippable, but also fine to play if you want.
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>>747607052
I want to know more about Samus
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>>747600797
Would be cool if Nintendo started establishing more/bigger studios in Europe. Americans are too expensive. Retro studios is dead.
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>>747607650
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>>747606427
Honestly, considering the shit situation Retro was handed, they made the best game that could have possibly been made.
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>>747607650
You should play Other M. You learn a lot about Samus in that game.

Did you know that when Adam asked Samus if she had any objections, she'd give Adam a thumbs-down as both a sign of youthful rebellion but also mutual trust?
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>>747602065
Do it on discount, is still a fun game.
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>>747608545
lmao
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>>747606536
>>747606719
>>747606750
npc brain
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>>747607650
>I want to know more about Samus
read the manga then, you have everything you need to know about samus there
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>>747609218
says the retard shilling a shit game
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>>747598349
>>747598846
A Switch 2 version would probably have a tacked-on side mode like Wonder and Pikmin 4 and I don't know what that could even entail.
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You know say what you will about the scientific ethics of the Federation, Space Pirates, Chozo, and Luminoth. But at least they didn't cause their planet to literally rot and mutate their entire species into feral beasts. The Lamorn did that.
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>>747600797
Spain has been making waves lately in general. Nothing major but a string of successes; pretty much all modern 2D Metroid, Blasphemous series, Gris, Ninja Gaiden Ragebound, Denshattack, Neva.

MercurySteam did put out a Soulslike a year or two ago that came and went immediately though, like it got some marketing and then disappeared the instant it launched. I don't even know if that means it's bad or just that it got lost in a saturated market.
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>>747598846
Isn't it 900p docked?
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>>747606283
The shoulder pads being huge really helps frame the helmet .
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>>747598846
Low resolution mostly.
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>>747606339
What didn't you like about zero mission?
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is dread fun i was going to buy metroid prime 1 remake and super mario galaxy should i get dread instead
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>>747611101
Gotta see all those black squares in 4k
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>>747611825
2d metroid is far better than prime.
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>>747611825
It's fun if you want metroid to be a linear 2d space Bayonetta minus the sex appeal
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So who are those Space Ninja types? Are they Chozo?
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>>747597342
We will never return to the golden age of the 2000s, but damn it's nice to see our girl doing so well right now.
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>>747597342
Give us a switch 2 update you lazy fucks.
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>>747600253
He didnt. Dread is still an overly linear game lacking in exploration, it just isn't as bad as other M because the story was axed.
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>>747612193
Yeah too bad its with MCU bullshit like Dread and Metroid Prime 4.
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>>747602065
Buy Ravenous instead
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>>747612598
forced meme
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>>747606427
Its alright play it if you can find it for cheap its a switch 1 game so you can emulate it. I thought the boss battles were fun and the absolute retardation of the aliens was funny
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>>747612668
I don't own a switch 2
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>>747612675
>and the absolute retardation of the aliens was funny
To be fair this has always been a running thing in Metroid. Everyone is a dumbass mad scientist.
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>>747612675
>Motorcycles tho!
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Wait until everyone collectively figures out that /v/ and the entire internet lied and Metroid Prime 4 is kino
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>Race of beings discovers a glowing green crystal that outputs a massive amount of energy and resources
>While also destroying their planet from the inside out
>Also horribly mutates any organic matter it comes across.
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>>747612910
It's nowhere near 1-3 but it is fun. I can't say I had fun playing dread
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>>747612910
wait until everyone collectively figures out that prime 1 and 2 are overrated and deeply flawed
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>>747612910
Prime 4 is kinda the best game that could possibly come out of the situation that it was in. At the very least it gave the team experience needed to improve.
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>>747613157
Why? what's wrong with dread?
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If theres one major flaw with Metroid dread, its the music. Its so generic that I kinda forgot it was even there.
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>>747597342
Glad it's Dread doing it, but only one game during this pitiful sale peaking the charts is not a good outcome at all.
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Samus's younger, more playful cousin.
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>>747612910
>You didn't hate driving around an empty desert collecting crystals, some words on a screen brainwashed you in to thinking you did!
The sad thing is, even if you're baiting, I've seen retards on other sites genuinely say this when talking about this fuckass game
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>>747613741
does anyone actually like the EMMIs?
killing them was fun but they're so fucking lame
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>using the little environmental bugs that latch on to you and drain your hp to eat the weird indestructible energy ball plants
OK, that's unironically a pretty cool way to progress. Zero Mission is cool. I wonder if I could've done this earlier.
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>>747597342
>digital
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>>747614110
To be fair digital is the best way to play Dread at this point, I just went back to replay my physical copy and the load times suck, even on Switch 2
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>>747614110
Yes, that's why #1 on a digital shop means nothing because the sales can be made up.
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>>747598846
gib a built in randomizer mode
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Both #1 and #2 were produced by Sakamoto, he won
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>>747614534
how much is different?
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>Zero Mission, Samus Returns, Super, and Other M deal with Samus's relationship with the Chozo and Metroids
>Fusion, Dread and Now Ravenous have Samus confronting the dark past and warlike nature of the Chozo and if she's a monster or still human.
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>>747615074
https://youtu.be/47GuGSRxnoY
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>>747612910
Prime 4 contrarians will never be taken seriously
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>>747597342
awesome
it's kinda wild to me that 2d metroidvanias can be successes in this day and age. you'd think normies would see them as archaic, but nope.
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>>747615632
>saying this after Silksong was so popular it crashed multiple storefronts
If anything, Metroid should be more popular
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>>747615948
I like Silksong, but it's r/gaming-adjacent in its aesthetics and themes, which I think adds to its popularity. Pricing helps, too.
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>>747597342
I want to play Metroid Dread but with Achievements. I need Cheevos, end of paragraph.

t. PC and Snoy.
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>>747598349
Please god I want this so bad
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i've never really been into metroid but ravenous looked so good i wanna try. is dread a good entry point
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>>747616356
Try zero mission. It's in the GBA classics app on Switch 2. If you're a giant normalfag I guess you could start with Dread.
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>>747613919
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Driving around sand dunes on a super fast speedbike doesn't sound fun to you? Why though, it's cool. I liked it.
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>>747615304
This literally shows that it only takes around 60 seconds to get across the map
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>>747616356
the only games you need to play are zero mission, samus returns, super, fusion, and dread. You can play the nes and game boy metroids but only for the expirence.
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>>747616642
With your eyes closed because there's absolutely nothing of interest going on
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>>747616820
Is Samus Returns better than AM2R?
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Pound for pound the best Nintendo franchise.
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>>747616950
This is the exact same thing as the video comparing someone walking in a straight line in Mario 64 vs someone who knows that playing Mario 64 is fun
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>>747597342
I want to play Dread. Not tech savy enough to emulate.
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>>747616989
You're seriously comparing Mario 64's movement options with the bike in Prime 4?
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Guys, it is 2026. You can stop pretending Metroid Dread was good, no one will call you out for lying about it 5 years ago.

It is a Metroid game with poor level design and boring art direction. No amount of "it controls so smoothly" cope will change that.
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>>747598846
Metroid Dread Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Raven Beak's Final Foley
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I tried to give it a shot but the 10 minute unskippable cutscene in a demo, along with the inability to save, made me drop it.
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>>747616958
yes
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I'm kinda scared to play Dread coz I feel like it'll get a Switch 2 patch just as I finish it
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>>747617194
Dread is 9/10 gameplay
7.5/10 graphics
8/10 bosses
5/10 music
7/10 level design

it still averages out to a great experience overall and makes it easy to be excited for ravenous
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>>747601539
I would have bought Dread and MP4 if they'd go down to $30 or under
I am not paying $41 for Mercurysteam slop no matter how good newgens and zoomers say Dread is
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>>747617448
I agree but bump down music to 3.5/10 and level design to 6/10.

The OST was that forgettable and was super glaring considering even NEStroid mogged Dread in tbat department.
And I consider EMMI to be part of the level design so their areas got old fucking fast.
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>>747603321
Personally, I really dislike the EMMY segments. It does ruin the game for me entirely. I beat the game once but every time I go to replay it I drop it after beating the first one because I dislike them so much. I wish I liked the game. Honestly nothing beats the two GBA Metroid games for me.
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>>747613251
Main part of the game too linear and easy, more of an action game than a metroid game and the bosses are too hard to be fun. When I say hard I mean just hitting too hard no matter how much tanks you have, but it's a trial and error game of memorization, and once you get it down instead of hard it's just tedious and boring.
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>>747617194
Raven Beak tho
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>there are more MV players now because of Dread, Silksong/HK, and Belmonts Curse
I hope this means Ravenous can potentially hit 5M copies sold minimum even if its Switch 2 only.
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>>747617598
To each their own I guess. I loved the Emmi segments. I love stalker sections in games tho so they're right up my alley.
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>>747617598
Never played Dread but isn't the Emmy shit just SA-X but repackaged? Isn't there specific triggers and spots where you can completely cheese the stealth segments like in Fusion?
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The EMMI Segments were good in theory. But six of them were just excessive. Also at least one of them should have had a proper boss fight.
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>>747615074
I think switch 1 cart read caps out at like 60-70 MB/s while the switch 2 internal memory is like 800
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>>747617752

the game had like three emmi segments too many
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>>747602215
The differences with the Space Ninja is that they told us that the combat zone is an entirely different dimensional space. We aren't going to have to move through a "Space Ninja" zone to get to a computer to be able to kill them. We find them, they are a boss fight, we suck them dry and get a new ability. They are simply a different style of boss compared to anything else the series has done.
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Hopes for Metroid Prime 5?
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>>747615221
Fusion dealt with the feds. There was no internal struggle for Samus in that game other than going down with the ship or not at the very end.
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>>747597342
>US eshop
Amerimutts are such tendie cattle lmao
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>>747605910
>Metroid Suit goes from Red Highlights to Green
I don't know if I like it, will have to see if it has a story reason.
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You know what. Prime 5 should be TPS game. It'll let Retro have more freedom rather than being stuck trying to replicate and fail to emulate previous Prime games. Have Samus play like Vanquish.
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>>747617536
Metroid 1 has one of the best OSTs in the series
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>>747616958
FUCK NO
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>>747617746
I doubt Ravenous hits Silksong levels of popularity. I'm guessing 1-2 mill in sales.
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>>747617880
Samus is enough of a wannabe action foid in the mercurysteam games thank you
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>>747617809
I really want to see it happen, if only so it will answer if Retro fucked 4 or if it was really Tanabe
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>>747611825
Depends on what you want. An FPS game or a 2D MetroidVania type game. Both are good. Ravenous will be a direct sequel to Dread, not Prime.
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>>747613074
Supremely based, I love MP4 now. Kane lives, btw, tell your friends.
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>>747617809
Not FPS anymore. It never made sense for someone like Samus to move set. Time to change things up for the Prime series if they want it to succeed.
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>>747616958
I'd say no, but I still think SR is at least worth checking out
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>>747617809
I believe. The superficial aspects of 4 were perfect (music, visuals, general aesthetics) as was the combat, but you can't just drop the ball on map design in a series like Metroid, and forcing a story is made worse with bad writing and hand holding bullshit. If they just learn from the critiques of 4, 5 could be amazing.
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>>747618283
At the very least Nintendo doesn't immediately shut down studios after flops.
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>>747618402
there's was also some rumors/leaks that a big part of Prime 4's budget was Nintendo rebuilding Retro to handle more AAA style development, which was a big reason why they didn't get Prime 4 to start with. Nintendo have been the types to throw away that kind of investment after one flop.
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>>747617881
Correct. Still has the best rendition of Kraid's Lair.
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>>747618628
>Nintendo have been the types to throw away that kind of investment after one flop.
dumb typo, that was supposed to Nintendo have NEVER been the types to throw that kind of investment away
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>>747618823
Except for the Chibi Robo devs. Because fuck that stuido in particular apparently.
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>>747618921
It was a mercy killing after Zip Lash, honestly
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>>747617947
Thats too low even Dread did 3m
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>>747618628
Retro was kinda floundering after Tropical Freeze and their failed Harmony Project. I'm sure a not insignificant amount of dev time was spent on rebuilding Retro. Honestly I found Harmony interesting.
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Im afraid the music will still be bad
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is this a typical backtracking simulator?
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I am so fucking sick of longwinded parries. If its going to be mandatory then either make it as quick as Nine Sols/Sekiro or don't bother.
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>>747611668
I misspoke and forgot zero mission came out after fusion my bad. Zero mission was fucking great.
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>>747616642
With nothing to do or look at, this might as well be a minute long loading screen.
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>>747610450
When you’re on the teat of nintendo, you’re just about set, no need to worry about other games performance, let alone making them period. It’s why very few 3rd party devs under their banner ever make different games. GoodFeel put out a new game a few years back too and that got no buzz, but it didn’t matter cause they’re the yoshi guys, nintendo will take care of them and they’ve got a guaranteed success with the yoshi and the mysterious book
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How the fuck do you get past the bug room in Zero Mission? Literally no option to leave and can't avoid this invincible crawling bug to hit it's stomach. I've bombed every wall and I'm literally soft locked. I'm starting to see why this series isn't popular.
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>>747597749
>Sakamoto won
What a time to be alive
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>>747621047
https://youtu.be/WINinwf6_Yc?t=3557
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>>747606283
Not like they haven't done that before.
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>>747600253
Meanwhile Tanabe left Prime series in shambles with the clusterfuck mess that is Prime 4 and "retired" (Hint: Got fired) and then left through the door with his tail between his legs to work at fucking.... Natsume, probably not having learned any lessons at all and still seething at the fans.

Much respect to Sakamoto. He could have doubled down on Other M faggotry or go cold turkey, but instead he sucked up his pride and made Spaniard kino instead.
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Metroid would be more popular if you could play Zero Suit instead of being stuck as a gay robot
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>>747597342
>Metroid "fans" aka tourists liking dogshit animu action slop like Dread and Ravenous
>actual oldfags of the series wanted more action-horror Aliens movie Metroid
God, we live in the worst fucking timeline. Just like Zeldafags having to live with Nuts and Bolts TikTOTK / BOTW slop over tradZelda
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>actual oldfags wanted more action-horror, not something like Dread where you're being hunted by unstoppable killer robots for half the game
lol
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wait were people on 4chan actually alive when metroid was on the NES and SNES ??????
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>>747623759
Fuck no. Imagine being 30 and still using this shithole LMFAO
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>>747622948
Faggot
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>>747617684
>Main part of the game too linear and easy, more of an action game than a metroid game and the bosses are too hard to be fun
>but likes mp4
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>>747600253
Its amazing how Tanabe just doubled down on all of his ideas after the abysmal reception to Federation Force
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>>747619921
Dread?
no, you're always going forward with teleporters or the level looping back to where you have to go next
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Oh please god don't let them incorporate the "Searching for your corpse after you die" mechanic.
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Which is the best suit?
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>>747625629
Shame they are 100% locking the metroid suit behind some kind of special event, I want to look like a stupid bug for a chunk of the game
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>>747625629
Samus Returns Gravity Suit is peak, and so is Light Suit.
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How does ACfag manage to be so identifiable?
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>>747625994
Over sixteen years.
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>>747625994
I remember how he complained about the special attacks of a fucking EO game made it a "movie game" because they lasted seconds you couldn't control.
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>>747602065
Go ahead, have fun. The game was in development hell and it shows, it's far from perfect, but the hate for it online is waaay overblown. Honnestly considering the issues the game has faced, the covid, and Tanabe's autism, it's a miracle it ended up as decent as it did.
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>>747606283
She needs to stop getting mangled and let the suit regenerate properly. At the rate she's going, getting strangled and stabbed and thrown around and shit, it's going to heal weird.
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>>747626590
>it's not bad if you consider why it was so shit
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>>747626616
Seems to be healing just fine from what we saw in the trailer. Don't know why the Varia suit specifically was so inconsistent between how it looked in Dread and the new one though
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>>747626590
Anon, no, the game was shit, the desert was aggravating, the companions were terrible adn the level design was abysmal.
As decent as it did is basically a 4/10
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>>747626750
The Varia looks the same as in Dread until she got stabbed, then the suit takes on a different look
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>>747626951
Yeah, I looked at the trailer again, and the Dread Varia only shows up with the reveal of her hand, her fighting the Space Ninjas, getting stabbed, and the "Eat or Be Eaten" part, so I have to surmise that's all at the start of the game if Dread was anything to go by
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>>747626691
>>747626808
Art direction is top tier , feeding back into the Geiger/Carpenter origins of the franchise like few other Metroid games before; OST is great, controls feels like Prime, core gameplay is very solid, the new powers are interesting, game is incredibly beautiful, bossfights are some of the best of the series, Flare pool is very solid and Ice Belt is one of the best Prime level of all time.

Yes , the desert is shit. Yes Mackenzie handholding is annoying, yes the game is too linear. Admitting the game's flaws shouldn't keep you from admitting what the game did right.

Is it the best prime game? Far from it. But it's still fun and enjoyable. Some people acting like it's worse than OM is nonsensical. The game is a solid 7/10 and a fun experience once you learn to take it for what it is.

don't bother replying to me, I'm currently on a metroid marathon following the announcment of Ravenous, and I'll be enjoying Prime 4 as much as the others, stay mad.
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>>747627064
Would make sense, and the sleaker version we see (outside of the Metroid Suit) is after the Metroid DNA starts changing the suit again like it did in Fusion
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>>747605910
>Metroid is now DBZ-lite power creep spic shit
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>>747615304
is this nigger purposely ignoring the speed boosts?
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>>747625629
The blue Dread suit is so fucking cool. I know it kinda looks like a toy but I love it.
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>>747626590
I beat the game, twice, back to back one on normal then immediately on hard. The only genuinely good part of the game is the Sylux fight. There is almost no other genuine redeeming qualities. They could have cut the rest of the game, put in the other hunters(kanden and weavil especially) and arena fights like Sylux, and have literally no story and I would have enjoyed that more.

This bull.sbit game was built up since federation force and they literally didn't use metroid at all, and the entire Sylux plot was probably the single biggest let down in recent game memory. Prime 4 needs to be erased.
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>>747627405
Filtered.
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>>747627481
Sure was, fuck that game and the rest of the world agrees. Stay cucked, contrarion retard.
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>>747627405
I beat the game twice back to back too and am about to beat it again for the 3rd time. I fail to see how it's relevant to the conversation.

Stay blinded by your disapointment. You're the one losing if you're unable to appreciate the game for what it is like a retarded youtuber that decided the game was shit before even playing it. I'm the one having fun with it
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>>747627510
Castlevania wrecks 2D Metroid btw
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>>747627481
MP4 was memoryholed stupidly fast for a reason.
Even other m is remembered (for all the wrong things)
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>>747625629
I genuinely love them all. No game series, ever has had this many designs look so good across so many games across almost 3 decades. Some can dream to get even one right but Metroid has them in the double digits.
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>>747627554
>You're the one losing if you're unable to appreciate the game for what it is
>you are losing because you can't enjoy eating shit
Not even him, but what an argument.
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>>747627554
I'm not discussing this with a retard. We filtered you dumb niggers out during the Other M era, and you'll be filtered out now.

You are wrong, keep enjoying eating shit though.
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>>747627648
You forgot what true shit games are like. Prime 4 is fine.
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>>747627706
Can you tell me, as a metroid fan, what are the enjoyable, metroid parts of prime 4?
Starting with the inability to upgrade beams on your own.
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>>747624515
That ending is probably one of the worst scenes in any game I have ever seen.
Seriously, no really, what in the god damn fuck were they thinking. I can hardly even consider this game a prime.
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SNES and Dreadfags getting uppity again.
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>>747625629
Dread gravity
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>>747627769
>>747627141
I already did

What baffles me with Metroid fans is the absolute incapacity to imagine that people like games for different reasons. Like, if you don't like Metroid for the level design you're not a real metroid fan.

I just finished replaying Zero Mission, and while the level design is miles better than Dread, I have way more fun playing dread.

I like the prime games for their art direction, their OST, their gameplay and their ambiance and atmospheres, more than for the level design. All things that are great in prime 4. I like Prime 3 way more than Prime 2 because the ammo system of 2 is annoying as fuck, and the backtracking in Dark Aether is the least fun I've had in the entire series, even worse than prime 4. Yes, despite that the Level design in prime 4 is so shit that it managed to diminish my enjoyement of the game here and there, and the desert is abysmally bad. Nonetheless, I liked the rest of it.

I fail to see how it's so hard to grasp. My favorite metroid games are Dread, Fusion, Prime 1 and Prime 3 , and I stil lliked Prime 4. Open your mind ffs.
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>>747627918
>dread is the best selling metroid title
Sorry not sorry
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>>747625629
Samus Returns, god that suit looks awesome.
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>>747628028
Cool, you're wrong. Retards don't have the capacity to measure what's right and wrong so you have no right to say anything.
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>>747628191
>Retards don't have the capacity to measure what's right and wrong

>post a close minded retarded answer

Oh the poetry
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>>747628261
The close minded don't need to listen to the words of retards, there is no avenue for debate here and nothing more to garner. You are wrong, open and shut, there is nothing more to discuss.
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>>747628381
>"NOOOO YOU ARE WROOOONG THERE IS ONLY ONE RIGHT OPINION POSSIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO ART, MOVIES AND VIDEO GAMES . I ONLY LOVE ONE ASPECT OF THE METROID FRANCHISE AND EVERYONE SHOULD TOO REEEEEEEEE"

Taking video game discussion this seriously as if it was a political matter is what's making you a retard, retard.
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>>747628381
Anyone calling Dread a bad game is the true retard.
Acting like it's still 2021 where it's cool to shit on this team for Samus Returns, and acting like MercurySteam didn't fucking knock it out of the park with Dread.
lol
lmao
I cannot believe you people are still seething over this game 5 fucking years later. Samus Returns was mid but Dread proved you troons wrong about their understanding of Metroid. They made mistakes in their first attempt. They grew, objectively, in their second attempt. And you cannot stand to see their success.
This is just sad at this point.
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>>747622827
Don't forget the sequel
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>>747628642
shut up nigger
Dread was repetitive as fuck and you're so dumb that you can't see it
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>>747628963
Nah Dread was great, you're just really retarded
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>>747627247
>someone else agrees with me
thank you anon, I think this is some cornball stuff too, and you gave me hope in not being all alone in this
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>>747629018
Different anon here, what was great about Dread? A million other Metroidvania games have come and gone and done the genre a better service than Metroid itself. All Metroid can do now is take its own old-ass formula that was created in the 80's and continue to add bells and whistles on it. I'm supposed to be impressed that I can slide and parry now? And what did the story offer?
Dread: "SAMUS IS A METROID!!"
You: Pic related
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>>747629413
Nah, dread was great.
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>>747629413
Dread is great.
Stay mad.
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>>747597342
and all it took was just having a cool trailer
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>>747629954
Being easy to please is not an argument, anon.
>>747630273
I will continue to be better than you, yes.
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>>747630308
It was a VERY COOL rtrailer
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>>747630418
Being never satisfied and unable to find joy in the little pleasures of life isn’t one either, anon. You have so much anger in you, let it go.

Dread was great anf prime 4 was fine. The sooner you accept it the sooner you’ll be able to find solace.
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>>747630527
> prime 4 was fine
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>>747603321
The devs were fortunately smart enough to realize those sections were shit, and heavily checkpointed them, which I think was a first for the series.
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>>747630996
It was fine
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will we see her completed suit at the end of ravenous? at this rate I feel like it's just going to be healing forever
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>>747625629
>Has the dread suit elvove, the black thighs part expand
>By the gravity suit, it looks like she is wearing thigh high socks
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>>747631002
>and heavily checkpointed them
It was the same as every other area, anon.
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>>747631069
> vagina doors fucking everywhere
> muh motorcycle
> GREEN CRYSTALS
> literal who NPC's, including John Oliver
> garbage ending
> ugly Samus
The absolute state of /v/
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>>747617802
are we getting space sheriff references in metroid
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>>747631076
I will miss Dread's leotard impression.
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>>747611496
if only.
THEY TOOK HER ASS
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>>747597342
the only and last time it will ever go on sale
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>>747631324
it was fine
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>>747631623
Anon, she's becoming less human with each entry. By the next game she'll be digitigrade.
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Would be nice if they re-explored the zero suit gameplay, but this time around you can control the power suit remotely.
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>>747606732
>Space rock fag thinks he's people
I liked Mac, and no one can stop me.
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>>747631926
hopefully she'll lose the suit in this and will just be gelatinous mess that is only vaguely human-shaped
but I guess we saw her face in the trailer, no body horror for me
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>>747597342
wow... le 10 year old game is... TWENTY DOLLARS OFF?! BING BING WAHOO!!!!!!!
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THIS HAND OF MINE GLOWS WITH AN AWESOME POWER!
ITS BURNING GRIP TELLS ME TO BRING PEACE TO THE GALAXY!
HERE I GO!
ERUPTING!
METROID!!
FINGER!!!

AND NOW!
ECKSU ENDO!!!
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Mmph
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I wasn't huge on Prime 4 but I went online expecting to see people complaining about about the linear level design and instead got people bitching about the story? I mean it's nothing special and other Prime games had much more interesting scan logs but it still confused me. I'm just gonna go through the main points to see if any anons here with similar gripes can explain it to me.
>Samus doesn't talk to anyone
But she never does? I never saw people complaining when she was silent to NPCs in Prime 3. The only person she feels comfortable talking to in this franchise is that other Chozo in Dread which makes sense to me since she was raised by them.
>Sylux wasn't developed enough
What villain in this franchise is? They all have one-dimensional motivations. I feel like people are just coming to Metroid for the wrong thing.
>Samus didn't help the troopers
I thought the game made itself pretty clear that Samus had no choice on the matter. The teleporter was in danger and the soldiers made the choice to buy her time so at least one of them could escape. It's not like she deliberately deserted them, it was the only choice, it's like complaining that she didn't save the Baby Metroid from Mother Brain in Super.
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>>747633912
>But she never does?
They are people actively taking to her while she stands like a mute retard.
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>>747633912
>But she never does?
the point is that it's awkward in 4 when people marvel-dialogue at her and she doesn't respond. it's not "le stoic badass" it makes her look like a retard
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>>747633912
don't bother. It's not only that people shit on Prime4 for free, they tend to overglorify the other opus in the process. Everything you say is basically right but retards will try to argue otherwise.

The only exception I'd say is Sylux. My issue isn't that it wasn't developped enough, it's that the "explanation" for why he's bad is so rushed it feels ridiculous and incoherent. Ridley, DS and MB are not developped either byt at least they dont pretend like they have a reason for being evil. Had Sylux just been an asshole with no explanation it'd have been better than what we've got.

Raven beak was more developped though.
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>>747634098
Yet when Vampire Hunter D does it no one bats an eye.
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I tried to get into it 3 times but every time I get lost and stuck within the first hour and a half
i've beaten hollow knight and silksong btw
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>>747634065
>>747634098
How is this any different from her bounty hunter friends attacking and dying in front of her without her saying anything? Or when Raven Beak drops the daddy bombshell and she's still quiet. If we're going to have standards about this then it has to apply to all the older games too. Yes we can hear her voice in the Ravenous trailer but she's talking to herself just like she always has.
>>747634120
From what I was able to gander it seems like he was always an asshole who just happened to be skiled enough to be a commander in the Federation. Once he screwed himself over he went full time supervillain. Reminds me a little of the petty backstory we used to have for comic villains like Doctor Doom in their early appearances. Since he didn't die at the end I assume he'll be back for more and they can try to rectify his issues.
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Is it worlwide? What if dread outsell wolverine and fe in next weeks famotsu thread?
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>>747634401
>and she's still quiet.
There's a difference between
>I'm a silent person not talking to my enemies
and
>these people are having a conversation on matters I'm knowledgeable about an dthey are talking to me but I refuse to talk, to the point I may as well not exist
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>>747597342
>nintendo fans when they found out about a 90 year old nintendo IP for the first time because of a youtube video
Why are they like this
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>>747634501
this, why can't retards understand this. fucking brainlets I swear, always with the "IT'S ALL THE SAME THING" bullshit
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>>747597342
>tomodachi life
>60 bucks
wtf I thought that's a free game lmao you guys are really paying for that?
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>>747634501
I guess I can see that viewpoint so fair. Being raised by birds and being a mostly lonely bounty hunter probably does make you a little autistic though.
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>>747634590
The only reason she didn't talk is because of other m.
Samus has a personality and can talk to people, they just went about it as the silent protagonist retard.
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>>747634586
>wtf I thought that's a free game
try a little harder with your ragebait
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>>747634710
It's a valid criticism. That game came free with my 3DS and I thought it was literal shovelware, never even booted it. After the sequel started getting shilled on nintendo directs, my opinion stayed the same.
Well, nintendo is charging for an instructions manual, so I am not surprised that they're also charging for this literal garbage.
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>Samus gets stabbed
>Suit barely has any armor on it now with everything from the chest down being more or less the zero suit
I think Samus will regain her normal suit for good after this game
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>>747597342
i never played
i'm waiting for a switch 2 version
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>>747634889
Nah, its because its evolving due to the Metroid mutations.
>>747634401
>Reminds me a little of the petty backstory we used to have for comic villains like Doctor Doom in their early appearances.
Funny you mention that, because the Ravenous suit reminds me of old school Iron Man, with the flexible metal stuff.
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>>747632051
And the next game is us playing another bounty hunter to take out what remains of Samus.
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>>747634916
.... when you could emulate it?
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>>747620950
>>747621396
>Raven Beak: Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.
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>>747634828
Weird imaginary story
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>>747634828
you're not getting better at baiting fyi
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>>747598349
didn't they do an update already back when SW2 came out?
And in any case, do you need it if you force tv mode? (i have yet to try)
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@747635093
@747635137
shan't play your shovelware game for women
stop replying
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>>747625629
Dark suit is underrated
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>>747635152
>didn't they do an update already back when SW2 came out?
no
>And in any case, do you need it if you force tv mode? (i have yet to try)
this doesn't make tv mode any better, and handheld mode is still only 900p
I have a hacked switch and the 1080p patch makes the game look much crisper
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>>747635171
yes you will
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>>747625629
women be like "ugh I have nothing to wear" am I right fellas
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>>747597342
>$41.99 is considered a sale
Ooch. The game has been out for 5 years. It should be under $20.
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>>747635395
This is your brain on steam sales.
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This shows that people aren't buying Nintendo games because they consider the Switch 1 to be outdated, but new Switch 2 titles aren't coming out fast enough. Nintendo itself has confirmed that software sales are below expectations.
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>>747635348
>Samus is Nintendo's most prominent main female protagonist
>has the most primary outfits
I mean, you joke, but...
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>>747635420
Would still be too overpriced even with steam sales
Dread is literal humble bundle filler material
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>>747625629
>no zero suit
can you at least try
>>747635420
nta but while I understand the approach of "our games have value", Nintendo used to have their own "platinum" or "choice" or whatever line where they'd lower the price of big titles significantly
I miss those days
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>>747635474
Dread is the best game to come out of Nintendo in over a decade.
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>>747617448
I think level design was great for what is is. We've been holding Super Metroid as this gold standard for Metroid level design but not a single game in this franchise has replicated that formula.
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>>747635420
>W-w-we need to keep overcharging the consumer!
You're probably also too young to remember greatest hits companies had when games sold a certain number of copies that would bring the price down to $19.99.
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>>747635607
It's barely the 3rd best 2D metroid. Hands down one of the most overrated games of the decade
Considering how hard the dogshit metroid 2 3DS remake was shilled here, I've already accepted the fact that metroidfags have no standards
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>>747635708
Name a better game out of Nintendo that came out in the past 10 years.
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I don't like the fact that she's becoming a scary monster with no remorse, and it worries me when I see people cheering on her giving in to the darkness, wanting her to basically hard vore people
I liked her so much better when she was the quiet, solemn, mourner of old who was unshakable in the face of adversity, a beacon of light in the darkness, giving hope to all who are hopeless
I hope the Luminoth come in at the end, comparing her current freeing of the beast to that of Dark Samus, who they were familiar with, and they give her the Light of Aether and purify her of this demonic possession allegory
also, I know I'm all alone in feeling this, thank you for reading anyway
so anyway when is Prime 2 coming to Switch?
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>>747635607
Splatoon Raiders
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>>747635628
>>747635587
Nintendo doesn't dare do that anymore, because its consumer base is no longer made up of "gamers" but rather normalfags, parents, etc., who buy exclusively by brand.
Nintendo itself has spoken about some games that never stop selling (such as Mario Kart, Mario Odyssey, Smash, Zelda: Breath of the Wild, etc.), as examples of a new type of market dynamic, where powerful brands maintain high sales for years, in contrast to the old dynamic with "gamers", where they would buy the game immediately upon release, and then sales would plummet.
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>>747600373
Looks good.
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>>747635787
nah I'm with you but to me it's a side story, a one-off. If they're smart, they'll treat this "hunger" shit as a negative she struggles against in-game, even if they sell it as "le hardcore" in the trailers
and yes, I hope Retro is sent to the remaster mines for now, gimme that Prime 2, fuck I'll take 3 as well
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>>747625629
i find it kind of interesting that the gravity suit is often seen as making the visor and lights blue despite the fact that it's only ever happened twice in prime and sr
it is probably because of smash bros
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>>747635787
>, wanting her to basically hard vore people
No one is cheering for her becoming a monster, but now when she parries and kills enemies, it'll make sense she can absorb their vitality
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>>747636050
>but now when she parries and kills enemies
honestly that's another thing, the whole QTE-anime-dodge-and-kill-move shit they started doing is not my cup of tea
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>>747631623
sorry, I ate all her ass
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>>747636113
Samus punching shit is good.
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>>747636217
sure, but that "ninja dodge" shit in the ravenous trailer is kinda tryhard, feels off and generic
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>>747635737
Why the fuck should I? Dread is just incredibly mediocre
But fine I'll fucking list them

FE Conquest + Engage
Wario Ware Gold
BOTW + TOTK
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 + 3
Smash ultimate
Mario Odyssey
Bayonetta 3 even though it's a non Nintendo game being held hostage

Honestly, it feels just like a bad output from Nintendo if you ask me.
Anyway, Dread is mediocre compared to indie 2D metroidvania games. Silksong completely mogs it and I even preferred the original hollow knight over it
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>>747636409
>Silksong completely mogs it
should have began with that so we can discard your retarded opinion
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>>747636409
So you just have zero standards and don't actually like or play games, got it. Fair enough, carry on your whining will be ignored henceforth.
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>>747636409
>Guy complaining about dread has dogshit taste in games
Imagine my shock.
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>>747597342
we need a "the chad raven beak the virgin sylux" image
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>>747636494
>>747636510
>>747636556
>dreadshills hate silksong
If any of you anons are still wondering on whether you should play Dread or not, keep in mind that these are the kinds of faggots that are shilling the game to you. They'd probably even shill Wolverine if it released on their tablet
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>>747636591
>silksong
>good
HAHAHAHAHAHHA
Ravenous will outsell that astroturfed snoy game so hard
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>mercury system literally stole my idea
those fuckers.
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>>747635787
It's clearly going to be a struggle to control herself, and she'll eventually overcoming it. St Augustine wouldn't be a saint if he didn't have overcome his sins.
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>>747636675
mein neger, silksong sold more than twice as many copies as dread, this is not happening
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>>747597342
Ravenous hype + Nintendo sale has done wonders. Even Prime 4 and Remastered are in the top 30 best sellers for Switch 1 eshop titles. This might be the console gen where people start finally giving a shit about Metroid.
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>>747636859
People gave a shit about metroid on the gamecube and gba.
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>>747635787
>no remorse
Dude, her narration makes it clear she's not happy about having to embrace her metroid powers to survive. She just wants to get off this rock and go home.

>Luminoth
I do agree it'd be nice to them again. MS would probably confirm the fan theory that they idolize Samus as a savior.
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>>747636675
>Silksong
>snoy game
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>747636903
can confirm, I was there
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>>747597342
I bought a physical copy on ebay as well
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>>747600797
is mercurysteam run well enough for the money they get from Nintendo to keep them going? they seem to flop otherwise

I don't think they get a direct cut of sales right, it's a flat amount for dev costs that Nintendo pay them
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>>747597342
I find it interesting that Nintendo don't even bother making Japanese dubs for Metroid games anymore. They just said fuck it no-one here gives a shit, this franchise is purely for English speakers only
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>>747629361
it's very corny but I'll take it over what they did with prime 3 and prime 4, or what they did with federation force, or what they did with other M

I don't think becoming Megaman with Doom aesthetic really makes sense for Metroid but considering how fucking stupid the other approaches to metroid have been I'll take the cheezy action Samus as a lesser of evils option
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>>747636942
it seemed more like "I'm going to enjoy murdering the absolute shit out of these fuckers" to me.

calling it now: the games gonna end like RTDL: Samus gets a big fuck you energy sword and slices an eldrich horror in half, screen cap this.
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>>747637083
I’m pretty sure they had to lay a bunch of guys off recently. No chance of Nintendo stepping in either because somebody else owns them.
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>>747637117
>I find it interesting that Nintendo don't even bother making Japanese dubs for Metroid games anymore.
what a fucking larp, they only did it with other m anyway, none of the prime games were dubbed, ever. stop trying to spin this as some "muh modern gaming shit" trend
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>>747637339
yeah blades of fire flopped and they had to reduce staff iirc, idk if they hired up for that game though, so who knows how much it really affected them
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>>747636983
Metroid was mogged hard by Halo. Like 1 kid played prime for every 10 talking about playing Halo at lunch. No one thought Metroid was cool in the 2000s.
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>>747637343
I mean it's literally true that they did for Other M then they didn't after that. Dread only has Chozo so it's not like they've had many opportunities, but for recent games it's literally just true that for Prime 4 and Ravenous they said no JP dub like Other M.

Like you can complain as much as you want but the facts are the facts
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>>747637483
>I mean it's literally true that they did for Other M then they didn't after that
the point is that they didn't *before* either. Other M is the *outlier*, everything else is the norm.
Other M is also a piece of shit, so you do the math here buddy
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>>747637578
most of the games before Other M were barely voiced even in English. In modern times, when the games have been voiced, they did it for Other M then stopped
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metroid ravenous will reveal that samus is married with kids and her husband is just some guy
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>>747600531
Dread on an OLED may as well be 120fps with how smooth it looks. That screen response time is a huge deal. 60 on an OLED probably looks better than 120 on a Switch 2's shitty screen.
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>>747637658
ok fact aside that you are retarded
what does that *mean* to you. that they only did it with other m.
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>>747637742
literally the facts are they they stopped dubbing Metroid into Japanese. I get that this gets you mad but it's literally true. I'm sorry that reality gets you so mad anon, but don't blame me, blame nintendo or something if you're so mad
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>>747636978
It's called a falseflag snoyjeet subhuman.
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>>747637769
>they stopped
this is indicating that they generally used to, when in fact, they only did so once, that one game being the exception, and said game being one of the absolute lowpoints in the series.
stop false flagging and delete yourself
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>>747625629
If the shoulders aren't fuckhuge I don't want it.
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>>747637834
they didn't voice metroid 1 or metroid 2 or metroid 3 either you know

you might be retarded anon, sorry you had to find out this way
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>>747613948
Not really, no. The underwater one was annoying and the last one felt too easy.
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>>747637881
FACT
zero suit being the exception
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>>747637890
cope harder, your pathetic attempt failed, just deal with it
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>>747617809
My hope is that they do something different
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>>747617809
Not really, no. I hope they stop making Primes and go another direction.
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>>747637948
bro it's literally just a fact. this is pure, unadulterated reality. this is what actually happened in the real world. I don't know why you're so hung up about it.
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>>747617809
remove the halofying attempts
in fact, remove sylus and the federation completely
drop the "muh open world" hub shit
drop the forced hints every 60 seconds
bring back fucking metroid prime
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>>747637912
Wrong. Zero Suit should have big shoulderpads like an 80s women's business suit.
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>>747636050
>No one is cheering for her becoming a monster
nah senpai, check twitter and this place during burger hours
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>>747617809
More horror vibes and exploration gameplay, less marvel dialogue cutscenes and openworld memes.
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>>747618628
>Bluepoint Games and Armature Studio were both founded by former Retro staff
>Both are now defunct as of this year
What are the chances Retro/Nintendo swoops in to pick these guys off? Hell, isn’t Id in Texas too?
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>>747606283
tank suit
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>>747638303
for what purpose
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>>747638064
What about a Metroid game where you play as Sylus alone exploring a planet?
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>>747638389
that'd be the death of metroid
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>>747638383
New hires. Prime 4 had a lot of support studios and contract workers as is.
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>>747625629
dread varia suit is amazing. i have a soft spot for the fusion suit since Fusion was my first metroid (gba was my first nintendo console, i was on ps1 and pc back then.
>>747627617
it's kinda like spiderman, the base design is so good it can easily be chamged while keeping the overall appeal intact.
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is everyone just okay with this being the new tone and vibe for Metroid? angry doomguy samus seems different to previous portrayals of her
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>>747638813
IN the last couple of games she's been repeatedly shit on with no downtime
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>>747605801
I hate this stupid tribalism between 2D Metroid and Prime. Both are amazing. Prime 4 just ain't it.
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>>747638813
i'm kinda worried too, especially if this game becomes popular enough. that said the game itself seems to at least have a reason for samus doing all this, that being her metroid DNA is starting to take over.
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>>747638813
no i hate it too and think it sucks, i really hope they get rid of this le ebin hangry samus meme
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>>747639284
>I hate this stupid tribalism between 2D Metroid and Prime.
Its fake, manufactured and performative nonsense, and it comes entirely from one guy and he doesn't even believe it himself, he'll often play both sides of an argument, samefagging for attention, he's just trying to stir up shit, we call him ACfag because he used to post using Armored Core reaction images which made him easy to single out, he stopped posting AC reaction images and that to make it harder to identify him but he's been around for years doing this same shit. If you ever see someone trying to split the Metroid fanbase between 2D and Prime fans its always that same fucking guy, you scratch the surface and the same script comes out everytime. Just ignore him.
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>>747639284
>>747639840
Fucking THANK YOU. 2D, 3D, doesn't matter. Samus' games are almost always great.
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>>747639840
Thanks, good to know.
Metroid gods should stick together.
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>>747639372
the reception seems extremely positive which should suggest to me that if sales follow, this is just what samus and metroid will be from now on. Honestly, as much as this isn't what I would have chosen for Samus myself, I'll take MercurySteam's badass action hero version of samus and parrslop metroid over the Tanabe version of metroid that's obsessed with the Galactic Federation and filling it with chatty Federation NPCs. It's the less offensive version of metroid to me, even if it's a bit over the top.
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>>747639372
If she ever had a reason to be angry, it's now
fusion>dread>ravenous sounds like hell considering the short timeframce.
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>>747640317
she's really been getting quite unlucky lately
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I wonder if they'll ever do a Bounty Hunter metroid. I know the Japanese didn't realise what settei they were assigning her by slapping that label on her, but these days since Mercurysteam have carte blanche to do whatever they want with the series, perhaps we'll get something like that now.
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>>747639284
This, but Prime 4 is fine
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It feels like Metroid as a series has been consistently constrained by needing to a) have Samus and b) have something to do with the titular metroids. Having the metroid genocide was writing themselves into a corner in a way too. It's been kind of awkward the way they've had to write their way out of it
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is this a canon video game relationship?
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>>747640683
It's funny in hindsight that they genocided the metroids in game #2.
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>>747598349
imagine the content they could add to the nintendo switch phone app!
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>>747601135
big white cock, mine specifically
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>>747615304
>the fucking marvelslop npc radioing you while doing nothing
kek
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>>747640683
Could have called it something broad like "Space Bounty Hunter" then have a subtitle
something like
Space Bounty Hunter : Zebes
Space Bounty Hunter : SR388
Space Bounty Hunter : Zebes II
Space Bounty Hunter : BSL
or
Space Bounty Hunter : Metroid
Space Bounty Hunter : Metroid II
Space Bounty Hunter : Metroid III
Space Bounty Hunter : X
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>>747612598
I haven't played dread yet. When I saw the ravenous trailer my initial thought was "wow they're going back to Other M"
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>>747619570
sequels can never succeed a breakout hit title, it is what it is
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>>747597342
Meh I 100%'d Dread when it came out and thought it was great, replaying it now and it doesn't hold up very well.

>graphics are washed out
>far too linear for its own good
>every boss fight has some "epic" QTE that's basically just a cutscene
>Emmis fights all play out the exact same way
>too short with zero replayability
>Samus gets abilities at a steady rate most of the game then gets like three in a row right before the final boss
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>>747641646
fag
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>>747641646
Get better material.
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>>747641741
>>747641998
>dreadtrannies in charge of handling any criticism
Silksong DLC will blow the shit out of Revenous
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>Metroid becomes mainstream
>twitter is now having a sybb-level disclosure about Samus's ass in Zero mission
sigh
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>>747642083
this how she looks canonically
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>>747642121
>le muscle mommy!!!
No
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>In the next game you play as a new character and have to hunt down Samus who went completely mental
>game ends
>The last Metroid is in captivity. The galaxy is at peace.
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>>747640431
Samus has had it really damn rough in general. Her deadbeat evil bird dad showing up with his bullshit was the breaking point.
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>>747616958
Samus Returns genuinely fucking sucks dick, i'm still impressed that the same people made an actually good game after it.
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>>747640683
Mario always has Mario, and that doesn't stop it from doing whatever the fuck it wants. Samus could do whatever, but elitists are too busy autistic screeching to even try to imagine other kinds of adventures she could have.

Metroids are bioweapon monsters, and it's a space opera setting. You can just make up some remote outpost where there's more of them.
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>>747642472
her arm cannon looks like a censored thick cock
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You did manage to get your copy, right anon?
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>MUH NEW PROTAGONIST!!!
ACfag needs to just admit that he hates Samus.
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>>747642554
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>>747642584
no
fuck amiibos
fuck steelbooks
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>>747634710
How does that look like a 60 dollar game to you? It feels like a typical mobile socialslop game
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>>747625629
Phazon
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>>747642274
That reminds me of when I was 6 and playing Super Metroid for the first time I paused, clapped, pointed at the screen and basedfaced when in a game called "Super Metroid" there was in fact a Super Metroid at the end. It blew my mind that the 'Super' in Super Metroid wasn't just referring to the fact it was Metroid game on the Super Nintendo but that game had a super powered Metroid in it. It seems like such a silly thing to get excited about now but it blew my mind at the time.
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>>747642549
That's because Metroid always had a story and Mario was just bing bing wahooing in all of his games
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>>747640817
I like how back in the 2000s this was a internet crackship but since then the downfall of Halo and resurgence of fucking DOOM of all things have made Samus X Doomguy the more popular memeship
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>>747642608
Ban Snoysong to its own containment board
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>>747642584
instead of an amiibo it should have been an artbook and cheaper
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>>747597342
I think whats happening reminds me a bit of how dark souls became popular. Demon's souls was a niche game that turned out great and had good word of mouth but people only realized this a while after the game released, when the game wasnt getting marketed anymore. Dark souls came out and people were already listening so more people came into the series to check it out.

The trailer for Ravenous was quite cool and eye catching, and dread was well considered plus it has a demo and all. Wouldnt be surprised if ravenous does better than dread. Specially if it fixes the music.
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>>747642608
Metroid starring Nine-ball when?
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>>747642584
yep. Along with the Zelda 40th ann. S2. Can't wait.
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>>747631437
I'm going to miss her fat fucking ass and thighs
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>>747642764
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>>747606427
It is 90% a great game. The other 10% is a useless desert hub, and fucking McKensey that NEVER SHUTS THE FUCK UP.
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>>747642694
then don't buy it, I'm not your Dad
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>>747635787
It's a nintendo game nigga, she'll act a bit more bestial in the final boss cause she's angry and he's evil and then go back to normal, you're acting as if they're going to show Samus snapping children in half to chew on their bone marrow
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>>747606427
>asking game opinion on /v/ of all places
The game is fine. the development hell shows but if you're not a purist retard you'll enjoy it.
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>>747642584
Even with all the controversy about physical vs digital games I still can't justify paying more for a steelbook or an amiibo. Yeah its nice to own things and have something to put on a shelf, but games are expensive enough as it is and I've never had that collectors edition bug that makes people pay extra for a super duper deluxe edition.
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How come we never got a Metroid 64?
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>>747607650
Its a remake of a NES game, back when an entire game had to fit in 128kb. They're not fitting much story in there. This attached picture is larger than the entire game.
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>>747638813
They're clearly following an evolving narrative of Samus continously being pushed with her back against the wall and getting more desperate as the situation gets worse and worse, i'm not autistic so i'm not scared by change.
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>>747642996
Because Retro was making 6 different games at the time for N64, 5 of which got canceled, their Metroid project was the most promising but development was still slow even after refocusing the whole studio to work on it and Miyamoto had to fly to Texas to personally oversee the studio to get Prime out of them and by the time it was out of development hell and into serious development Gamecube was on the Horizon so the decision to restart on the Cube instead was made.
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How is Samus consistently the coolest motherfucker to exist?
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>>747642750
Yeah, and? Samus is a bounty hunter, and is doing tons of jobs. You don't have to have every entry be part of the main narrative. Make the experimental stuff side games. Done and done.

>>747642996
Sakamoto was being stupid and didn't know how to make Samus move with a control stick.

They should make a Metroid 64 now. Low-poly and everything. Speaking of experimental side games, make it literally Ape Escape but a metroidvania. 3D version of Metroid II. Let's go.
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I'm surprised more people aren't worried about the fact that Samus actually speaks properly now.
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>>747643394
She's a hypercompetent space babe in alien armor. Add on the sympathetic backstory and stoic but compassionate personality, and you got yourself a classic fun heroine.

And to be honest, part of it's probably the sheer contrast with the other Nintendo protags.
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>>747643516
We've seen worse.
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>>747643516
The writing is believable, and the voice acting competent. Samus talking was never really a problem in itself, frankly.

>>747643689
It's pretty telling that 'The Baby' is not actually said that much, but it's the go to thing to say to mock the game's writing.
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>>747597342
in Japan is happening too. Will Nintendo finally realize that good marketing is useful?
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>>747620410
THAT'S NOT HOW YOU DO PLANKS YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>747643516
After Prime 4 making her a mute retard who's bizarrely incompetent, I'm okay with them leaing into her being a badass instead
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>>747643516
people hated that she didn't talk at all in Prime 4. The problem never was her talking but the bad script
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>>747643882
When Metroid was at its peak of popularity this is what they used to advertise it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLxOWTifmAs
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>>747607650
>Parents killed
>Raised by space birds
>Genetically altered by space birds in order to survive, rival faction of space birds wanted to use her as a weapon
>Joined space military
>Subsequently left space military, but maybe had a thing for her commanding officer
>Fights space pirates
>Fights weird jelly parasites that she later turns extinct
>Fights space pterodactyl what killed her ma and pa
>Fights weird space goo that becomes a clone of her
>Fights weird space virus that becomes a clone of her
>Becomes part jelly parasite to eat space virus
>Kills leader of rival faction of space birds
>As a person, nice and caring despite her job. She's an animal lover and enjoys round things.
>Also, the commanding officer is a computer now.
>Also also the space feds hate her now
I'm sure I missed stuff.
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>>747643516
Dread got itself points for Samus speaking Chozo briefly and everyone loved that and the scream, so everyone is a little more open to Samus having some dialogue again - just don't give her daddy issues about her superior officer that she goes on about in monotone for ages.
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>>747644017
they couldn't be bothered to put her in a blonde wig?
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>>747609671
Could just be a free patch. Pikmin 4 is getting a Switch 2 edition and right before that reveal, Nintendo updated Pikmin 3 to be 4k for free.
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>>747643171
>>747642367
>>747640317
I wonder if Samus will ever catch a break. Kinda sucks that every game for her is basically pure suffering
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>>747644035
You forgot the baby died for her sins
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>>747643882
If Nintendo had promoted Metroid from the start with cartoons and other content, just as it did with Mario and Zelda in the 90s, it might have achieved better sales today.
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>>747637083
Dread's director did joke about how he never got whipped as hard as he did working for anyone other then Nintendo. Nintendo Producer's run a tight ship.
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>>747643969
>>747644004
Hot take; I thought it was weird that she didn't talk in Prime 3. She was interacting a fair bit with the other hunters and Admiral Dane, but she didn't speak at all. I think this is where people started headcanoning that she's a socially awkward autist. Cause how else do you explain that?
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>>747601326
It's fine. Loading times are bad enough that I bought it again digitally on sale so Switch 2 would fix the loading times. Same thing I did with Pikmin 4 albeit voucher instead of sale.
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>>747644223
To be fair, they did. Sort of. Did you know there are like five (technically six) Metroid manga? And they were never officially released overseas, so they were trying so hard for decades to get Japan to care about this franchise.
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>>747643516
Her talking in this trailer is way better than the talking in Metroid Prime 4 where she didn't even talk. The problem with talking is bad talking, not who is talking. Other M and Prime 4 and Prime 3 were shit because the voice acting and writing was shit, it didn't matter that Samus talked in some and not others. The general quality is what matters.

People were fine with the talking in Dread and the talking in the Ravenous trailer because it isn't instantly recognizable as horribly cringe. It doesn't take much at the end of the day, people WANT to like metroid games, you just have to do the bare minimum to not drive them away with disgusting horrible trash
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>>747644274
Prime 3's script was at least written to handle the typical mute game protag. Samus gives occasional stoic nods, the thumbs up and mission complete message at the end of the game.

Prime 4 NPCs at some points talk directly at Samus and ask her a question, and she just stares back at them. If she is going to be mute, the script should not have characters trying to interact with her this way.
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>>747644224
its for the best, remember that prime 1 could have been vaporware if miyamoto never visited retro studios and got everyone into gear and kicked jeff out.
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>>747644223
nah, the DIC cartoon starring John Metroid would have been a disaster
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>>747644416
They did, from like 2002~2008 Nintendo actually cared about Metroid,
Metroid was well known and popular,
then they stopped,
it was weird.
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>>747639284
I have yet to find any 2d vs 3d arguments that sounded genuine unlike with Sonic. Metroid is Metroid and Metroid is amazing.
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>>747644484
WEEEELLL EXCUUUUSE ME RIDLEY
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>>747644416
And now they don't even dub Metroid games in Japanese, Prime 4 was literally a sub-only game for the Japanese audience. Ravenous's trailer in the Japanese Nintendo Direct was also presented with English voiceacting and Japanese subs, even as every other Japanese-produced game was in Japanese.

The perception of Metroid as an IP that Japanese people don't care about and don't play and exists only because it's popular overseas is extremely strong in Japan. Nintendo seems to have conceded that the only Japanese people that will play it are there because they're westaboos who want to feel cultured by playing games that are popular overseas, and leave it undubbed in Japanese to follow that branding. It's kind of funny how much they're written off Metroid ever becoming big in Japan.
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>>747612910
Metroid would have to patch the crystal grind to be half at most in order to get me to replay it and I have like 10 Samus figures and replay Prime and Fusion yearly.
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>>747644463
The scene with Armstrong is the most reaction Samus ever has to any of these dorks.
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>>747615948
I wonder if the massive success of indie Metroid's genuinely conditioned the masses into seeing Metroidvania's as a "cheap" genre. Metroid is amazing, one of the best at the genre, and stars a hot blonde woman. It not being more popular is weird.
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>>747617194
I have beaten it like 15 times and will do so again before Ravenous hits. The only issues I have with it is the medicore music and the repeated boss fights.
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>>747644741
>now
anon.... i....
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>>747644871
2D games in general are shat on by lots of people as primitive and the kind of game that only exists for historical reasons that they would never spend time playing. It is what it is.

Games like Silksong being hyped to the heavens have helped to reverse that impression, if anything.
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>>747642121
>florida bikini
kino
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>>747644920
are they going to fix the music, do you think?
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>Scrolling the e-shop because of the nintendo sale
>Between Metroid Dread and Odyssey
>See Tsukihime remake is on a totally unrelated 50% sale
>Buy that instead
sorry
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>>747645175
Where is my fucking Sacchin route Nasu you hack
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>>747631076
Doubt it, they said they only did the armor shedding in Fusion to re-design her and so as long as they want to keep doing that, the suit will still be healing.
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>>747642584
Nope, I want one but bots. WIsh Nintendo would just lock shit like that behind having a NSO sub.
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>>747643516
Samus talking is fine, she just needs to keep it to a minimum and get real direction. I'll defend it and will call it bullshit if she goes full Sonyshit yapping to herself every 5 seconds.
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>>747645052
Kenji came back for Prime 4 so we'll see.
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500 posts!
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>>747644840
so fucking cringe, unbearable
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>>747644954
ignore that other anon, he's been falseflagging about "muh dub" earlier in the thread, trying to create some weird implication about Japan/Nintendo's relationship to the franchise. it's meaningless bait.
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>>747644741
going by the comments on this video it would seem that Japanese Metroid fans do exist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFFtSfoHZeU
but it's hard to say whether they're all westaboos or if that's just how Nintendo sees them
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>>747645632
it was up for exactly two minutes
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>>747647365
they exist, just in smaller numbers, in the same way that niche fans for a series mostly popular in japan exist in the west.



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