Why do so many indie devs wake up each day and think>today I am going to make slop, there is not enough slop in this world and I need to add to the pileTotally bewildering behavior
Why do you wake up each day to make shit threads?
>>747597413no clue, webm related really looks like shit
>>747597413this is literally just cloudbuilt
>>747597413Is every single indie game considered slop to you before it's finished?Do you have an issue with the genre of and indie game, or just all indie games in general?
>>747597413The issue is most indie devs want to express a certain vision for a set of characters they've created but lack the narrative writing, programming, and originality to do so in any way that isn't utter garbage.
>>747597413you'll understand if you ever make your own thing.But yeah, the large majority of indie devs used to have some standards, and dump their trash on itch and put their actually decent game on steam.Now they just try to sell anything they make
le squish and stretch instead of making animations because youtuber said its game feel and juiceadd moar screens shakes for that game feel and juiceevery game needs to be the same shit or else i wont promote in my shitty analysis videos
>>747597698>Is every single indie game considered slop to youyes
>>747597413Most people are like that. It's the wageslave mentality. Quality doesn't matter to them.
To be frank I agree, why are 90% of indie developers obsessed with hecking smootherino movement slopperino, look at the video in the original post it has that 'old school poly' awful artstyle and is purely about movement I mean it's almost a parody. Not to be purely obsessed but it does seem to be popular with trannies they seem to eat that shit up.
>>747597608This.>Guys. Today I'm going to make a "movement". Guys it's going to be a movement game and by movement it be like sliding and WALL RUNNING. Guys! WALL RUNNING. Like that thing that if you check YouTube for movement tutorial, every fucking single one would include wall running "tech" that you "definitely going to make a unique and never seen game before with". Also, you can add you fetish spin - like faggot furries, trannime or cozy cute nigger dick, or dare I say....make an ULTRAKILL CLONE!!!?>GUYS I WOKE UP!!!
>>747598092if i saw a cat doing this on my porch i would call the police. why are they tolerating this?
>>747598079>>747598092true
>>747598206these cats are seriously out of control
>>747597413nice test room, where's the actual game?
>>747597413Is this your game OP?
>>747597413haha look at him gooo
>>747597413Before even opening the webm, I knew it was going to be one of those>boing boing boingggtype of dogshit animation lmao.
>>747597413Why do EVERY platforming indie game have wall running? Like, you don't have to put wall running in every game you make, guys. It has to be some free asset you can download.
>>747597413Games like this really are a dime a dozen nowadays. It’s all so tiresome
why is /v/ getting invaded by cat ai jeets?
>>747597539Fpbp
>>747597413What are Placeholder Textures for 100.This looks like a prototype for a high speed platformer.
>>747597980Cease to breathe.
>>747597413This doesn't look like slop to me.>but fast and smooth movement is slopNo, simple and flat movement is slop. "Hold direction to move, hold button to move faster, that's it" is slop.
>zero stakes movement game where you can double jump and change angle of velocity instantly
>>747597413Nobody thinks that. they make something that's fun for them and fits their skill level.places where it misaligns with you>My preference is not thatignore it>The market does not like 3d platformers much(objective truth)business failure on his part if he intends to sell itThis isn't slop because it's hand made and practicing art and creativity is admirable.
>>747599414I say the same thing about watching content, why watch long form videos when tiktok/reels is unironically better because you are constantly swiping and staying engaged. the previous generations need to die off
>>747599786but it's a popular genre and i'm a worthless contrarian with no individual opinions, i HAVE to hate it on principle!
>>747597914those are standard features in psx/n64 games. if they didn't have those, then they would look like shitty ai gen games
>>747599887I can't tell if you're implying every old game has the simplest movement it can possibly get away with or what.
>>747599786there is nothing more creative than a low poly psx style indie game focused on movement, im sure he came up to this idea all on his own
>>747598079the extra mobility is cool, restricted movement like gaylo sucks
Anon come up with a new game idea.>platformermarioslop>fpscodslop>drivingf1slop>deck builderspireslop>roguelikeisaacslop>sword fightingsoulslop>rpgmotherslop>mmodotaslop>battle royalefortslopYou're not allowed to use any ideas that already exist, it has to be a entirely new original game and idea that hasn't been done yet.
>>747600302Yes.
>>747600302i thought experimentation was the point of indies
>>747600302I mean yeah. That's what like 80% of the demographic that uses "slop" thinks. The only stuff that isn't "slop" is what they liked before they learned the term.
>>747600302you would be right if it wasn't for the fact that every single indie platformer ever made is low poly movement slop that looks and plays identical to the video in the op. even in duskfall they have that retarded air dash nonsense I was just playing it today
>>747600131It may not be creative, creativity comes after practice and achieving a certain skill levelI don't think he'll be making 3d platformers 30 years from now since nobody likes stomping in place.Whether you can barely draw a stickman or you're Picasso, practicing creative hobbies is admirable.
it's telling how they haven't moved on from psx imitation shaders for this long
>>747598079Because we aren't 6 year olds or dudebros playing their first game so just pushing the stick to move from A to B isn't really that fun.
>>747600394Doing anything published AA/AAA developers wouldn't is the point of indies. That includes both trying new experimental ideas and iterating on ideas the bigger groups have largely moved away from, like movement heavy 3D platformers.
>>747598079This happens because most of these retards who make these games are hopelessly obsessed with doomscrolling Twitter. They lack proper inspiration that doesn't come from fucking Twitter.
>>747600505>But... but Castlevania... Mega Man... if there's anything more to do than move out of the way of the zone that will damage me by holding the correct direction, then it's SLOP!!!!
>>747600302racing game where you drive a giant dick that goes straight in to your mouth for asking retarded pointless questions
>>747600660How does Twitter inspire someone to create low poly 3d platformer?
>>747600660but OP's post literally reads like a twitter ragebait
>>747600768I mean they are all over twitter let's be real I bet I can find one in some indie dev hashtag right now
The REAL answer is that this indie slop always starts with a vague idea or premise, only when you start developing that idea is that you realize you can't just make an entire game from just a concept, so everything around said concept gets little to no thought put into it, they just go for the most used tropes that everyone else goes for because it's the path of least resistance
>>747600838>developers use social media:O
>>747600910he doesn't even have any frames in his glasses he just wears them to look smart
>>747600394No, the point of indies was doing things without any of the bullshit AAA is associated with like suits and "investors" and chasing big market trends and instead just doing whatever seems cool and trying to do it well without any corporate control or censorship. Yes experimentation was also part of it, but again that is part of indies just being able to do whatever instead of trying to make the next live service fortnite hit sensation.
>>747600660>haha those doomscrolling lifeless tweeters amiritehe says as he doomscrolls /v/, and enters doomthread to doompost
I'm tired of every indie platformer trying to have le epic movement tech like Mario Odyssey where you can skip every level. What happened to good level design and good fun movement like Mario 64?
>>74760094399 out of 100 of the best games of all time were made by devs who didn't use social media, fact
>>747601084Most of the indies are trying to have movement more like Mario 64 than odyssey. Odyssey controls your airborne momentum pretty aggressively compared to 64, and air momentum is one of the big things this style of indie platformer likes to preserve.
>>747601097Devs through history always used some sort of means for social contact, be it meetups in nerd circles, message boards, chats, forums etc.
>>747597413Why is there a sword on his back if he's not gonna use it?
>>747597413And what game genre do YOU want to see more of?
>>747601246Note how none of those are algorithm-led doomscrolling social media
>>747601367Who are you to say that he wont?
>>747600785Yeah, most of you retards are twittertroons. What's your point?>>747600943ntaThat's why all of these indie games look the same or play the same. Indie devs nowadays have a small pool of inspiration due to them being terminally online or due to lack of game knowledge from not playing enough games.
>>747601440Note how many dev circles ended up being "here's my take on the same game" such as what happened with original Rogue, and that is something you complain about now on /v/ and blame on "algorithm-led doomscrolling".>>747601551You don't play indie games.
>>747601551Indie games play the same? Did you not see the dragon dick washing game? Indie games are much more varied than the big names on the market.
>>747600910The sad truth indies haven't accepted is that just because you can make a video game doesn't mean you're suddenly a game designer
>>747600302>>mmo>dotaslop??????
>>747600302All of those have been done to death with no new mechanics or gimmicks to shake things up.
Anyways the true answer to "durrrr why indie devs make platformer" is a very simple one:Because platformers are a perfect genre for people who are inexperienced in game dev and want to get some experience. They don't need depth or complexity or many variables, you just need to make decent levels and controls that don't suck. There's a reason why in the early days like 90% of vidya were platformers, game dev tutorials start by showing you how to make a 2d platformer and why for many big names of gaming history their first project was a platformer.It's that simple.
Why are you guys so negative towards people who do what they love?
>>747602050You are like the 10th person with the "ok listen up guys here is how this all works" and now you're waiting for people to affirm your brainfarts but haaa it was just me telling you that you are gay AND stupid
>>747600302>>fps>codsloppoint me to the indie game that plays like CoD during the 360/ps3 era
>>747602050Wouldn't platformers be harder to make because they have to create a shit ton of 3D assets to make the levels feel different from one another? Shit, I think making an open world would be easier because you have the world be one biome.
>>747602167Sorry that my truthnuke gave you a melty I guess
>>747602067People don't love making slop, this a game the dev would never make if you dumped a million dollars on them
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>>747602067this hugbox mentality only inspires mediocrity. It's great people pursue creation, but that doesn't exempt them from fair criticism. Demonizing criticism is the true evil.
geg /v/ is mad zoomers are making video games while the ideaguys here fail to make things even with AI spoonfeeding them
>>747602620What do you think you inspire? Can you name anything positive that came out of this? Do you think that someone looked in here and thought to themselves: yeah they're right I am a huge fucking cocksucking faggot, ahh now I feel so enlightened, thank you 4chan for making this my life better
>>747602649i have made multiple shit games that no one played and i am struggling to keep going. t. 35-year-old autistic unc
>>747602620Criticism is good."This is slop because it's a platformer with momentum" isn't criticism.
>>747602895I didn't know the game was out...
>>747597413This is slop because it's a platformer with momentum
>>747603062Oh, I didn't either, I thought you were defending the behavior of OP.
>>747597539Kek
>>747597413making games is funi wanna make games even doe there are a million other retards wanting to do the same thing
>make a Star Fox clone>could have made it simple and easy to play, like 64 or Assault>instead, the dev make it kaizo hard, punish the player for just playing the game, and expecting the players to minmax/super pro just to finish one level>wHy DoEs No OnE SuPpOrt iNdiEs?111!1?And I see the same shit with vitrually every other indie games. Most players want to play and have fun, not fucking get brutalize by making the game unfairly difficult.
>waaah nobody makes a game for me>okay what do you want>no response>or some super large project impossible for a solo dev that is extremely vague with gameplay details (basically a game where you can do anything!)People often say the idea doesn't matter, it's about execution. Well where the fuck are the good ideas then if they are so easy?
>>747604612the difficulty is the fun for them because they mastered it
>>747605350This only make sense as mode, not by default.
>>747598079>I want less gameplaySo /v/ is now kotaku journalists, great
>>747605312I was in game dev course where there was literal asperger who had this great idea to make a vague game like that and it largely ruined the whole thing for me because we got nothing done. And I was one of the few people who even volunteered for programming and there was no fucking way I could fulfill their requests with my programming skillz.I did make some slop fps platforming games with double jumping, projectiles, dashing, sliding, keys and all the stuff /v/ calls slop though. But I never progressed anywhere meaningful from that and now when I play platformer fps I just think like damn that could been me if I wasn't someone who just gives up.
>>747600768because all their ideas then come from gay fads
>>747602067They can't create anything so they have to punch something to pretend they're worth something
>>747597539OP just got nuked
