It's over for Sony.
why was spiderman 2 ultra expensive? it barely felt like an upgrade over 1. did all the money go to animating black people hair?
Still better than letting that retarded hack Kojima make games as non-exclusive.Sony haters can piss and shit themselves all they want.You'll never get Wolverine
>>747597995how tf did they artificially inflate the sales of spider man 2 like that?
>miles morales costing more than spider man 1Yeah that's a bullshit list
>>747598073But we already have Wolverine?
>>747598340They had to pay a massive fee to black lives matter to license the logo for the mural in the game
>>747598343Mmmm brown and grey
>>747597995This feels like back when i found out Max Payne 3 cost $100 millions
>>747597995>Marketing 300m>Game 5m
>>747598532Sorry that it doesn't have any fart gas to follow
How much money are these DEI hires gonna stole from Sony until the cucks in charge say enough?
>>747597995>Marvel Spider Man>Open world, top of the line graphics spider man game with a detailed manhattan>90 million dollars>Spider Man 2 >Literally the same game with all the assets they had already built>315 million dollars????
>>747598837I think they were making 3 games with Spider-Man 2 and cancelled 2 of them.
>>747597995how the fuck was the nigles morales game more expensive than the first spider man game
Oh this is 100% why Ted Price left, he saw the writing on the wall before anyone else
>>747597995So this game needs to sell around 4 million copies just to break even?lol
>>747599676And Marvel wants 6 million, otherwise Sony will have to pay Marvel the difference AND they'll cancel their contracts with them
>>747597995How did Miles Morales cost more than Spiderman 1, it was such a rehash of mechanics and assets that some people still think it was just DLC for the first game
>>747597995>Rachet and Clank at $81MM>Sells 4MM copie by 2023, probably closer to 5 now with Steam sales and What the fuck - just make a new trilogy. This is the exact game they should be making.
>>747598530Didn't all the BLM heads just embezzle all the money?
>>747598056To Sweet Baby Inc Million of Dollars to defeat white supremacists.They helped with many studios with their consultancy
>>747597995>dude, just invest 300 million dollars on us to make this 6 years long project and maybe we will break even (not adjusted to inflation) or if lucky get a slight profitthis can not be sustainable, how long until triple a just starts flopping because no one wants to take this retarded risk? After gta 6?
>>747598073>Sony finally let Bungie finish up Destiny 2 so they could work on their dream game Marathon>By 2028 you won't need discs anymore to play games on PlayStation, freeing up clutter, something gamers have been asking for>Finally dropped the hack Hideo Kojima, a guy who hasn't made a decent game since 1987>Wolverine is smash hit, one of the best games ever madeSony literally can't stop winning, and I'm so here for it
>>747599985No that makes too much sense. They need to spend $500 million on a 9-hour-long Nightcrawler spinoff.
>>747600257Bizarro Superman?!
There’s no reason for a game to cost over $100 million.
>>7475996766.2 Million as Sony needs their 30% cutNintendo's Metroid Prime 4 needed 2 Million to break even and it hasn't past 1 Million.Meanwhile Metroid Dread only needed 550k to break even and that's why Ravenous was greenlit.greenest.Ocarina of Time 2026 has a smaller budget than Pokemon Wind and Waves which is rumored to be 25 Million
>>747598837you have to hire all your buddies with liberal art degrees to inspect the game so you're not committing a hecking racism and that's not cheap
Marvel truly is a murderer.
>>747597995Spiderman>90 MWolverine>305 MFUCKINGHOW
>>747599805Those HR nails aren't getting done by themself
>>747600061Has this bootlicker done an article for Wolverine yet?
>>747597995They will be lucky if they make 3 million dollars out of this, considering the licensing bullshit and the Marvel's cut. It's unironically over for them.
>>747597995I could retire with 1 million. Clown world
>>747600551It sounds like Wolverine spun its wheels in development for a while, and between the leak a while ago and release, a ton of shit got scrapped in the process. All those weird "in your way" easily findable collectibles and the abnormally detailed but railroaded sequences reek of this originally being intended to be some semblance of an open world Wolvie game like their previous works, only to end up having to dial everything so horribly back that most of that shit is now inaccessible and they pad out a linear story adventure game instead. Hell, Jean Gray was supposed to be playable, the game was going to have sequences where you do run around and fight as other characters, and all that got shitcanned too so it's 100% basic ass hack and slash Wolverine all game long.
Did someone invest heavily in the downfall of Sony or something? So many bad decisions. Not a single right one. The incompetence is so severe that I'm thinking it's actual competence guiding them towards bad decisions.
>>747599676>>747599781I don't see it selling 6M after all this bad press. That shit makes even normies turn away. That's why devs are screetching so hard about unwarranted "hate".Maybe 4 Million many years down the line. But that's probably too high of an estimation. They fucked up and Sony will probably close this studio in a few months. It's fucking over.
Sony pushed Insomniac to use more money and to hire more people, this is why their games became more expensive after spider-man, i think it was in the insomniac leaks too.
>>747599805>import millions of immigrantsSTAY HOMESTAY SAFE
>>747600551Economic inflation plus corporate bloat, dobsonchads be eating good
>>747598343Is there anything as remotely cool as this scene in the new game?
>>747600789The goycattle normies who consume capeshit arent aware of the bad scores
>>747598056At this point I'm thinking some vultures have taken over sony and are draining it of funds by having it license out IPs for hundreds of millions of dollars from other companies they own.
>>747600029Pretty much, they spent it all on international vacations and personal real estate investments
>>747600886Anon, that was merely COVID predictive programming.
>>747599805It was their first go at the PS5 (which still keeping a PS4 version) and also did remake some city assets to make some of the Miles centered areas look more unique rather than just reusing the city from Spider-Man. Also, the general 100% cinematic presentation with no canned animations costs a lot to be implemented and they can reuse nothing from the previous game for that since it's a new story.
>>747601173>normies who consume capeshit arent aware of the bad scoresSimply searching for "Wolverine" on youtube in a private brower window recommends me these 2 videos.I don't know the 2nd one but the first one shits HARD on the game and has 3M views already.Are you really sure about that?
>>747600061This guy is actually the perfect reviewer.The true purpose of something as subjective as a game review isn't to tell you if a game is good or not. It's for your to get the honest opinion of somebody and then base your buying decisions on that person's opinions, knowing if their tastes align with yours or not.This guy is ROCK SOLID CONSISTENT in having utterly atrocious taste. You KNOW if he likes something it's going to be a big pile of shit.You should be thanking him.
>>747597995Good. Fuck Sony
>>747597995How the FUCK was Miles Morales almost twice as expensive as Spider-Man 1HOW>>747599781>AND they'll cancel their contracts with themPleasePlease be realPlease free Insomniac from the Marvel slop machine
>>747601656>I don't know the 2nd one but the first one shits HARD on the gameIt's not even out yet. Wait for the release and it will be a fucking bloodbath. I think we will reach Flopspoken levels of cackling internet laughter.There is no way for them to recover from here.
>>747601918>Please free Insomniac from the Marvel slop machineGoing by recent patterns Sony will free them via the sweet release of death.
>>747597995That's a lot of money for garbage. Sony is gonna go out of business soon if they keep funding people who don't want to make games.
>>747601918>Please free Insomniac from the Marvel slop machineLol this Anon thinks Insomniac will get the opportunity to go back and become a grounded studio.
>>747601918>Please free Insomniac from the Marvel slop machinesorry m8 yer fuckedif marvel folds on them because they don't sell that promised 6 million in a year, insomniac will take the hit and sony would sooner wash their hands of the whole affair
>>747600029No, why do fags make up retarded shit?
>>747600783Sony management are just cucks who worship the west.
>>747597995>Miles Morales, an expansion, was more expensive than the original gameHuh?
>>747602557>WOULD YOU PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS?No.Fuck off.Lick my salty balls, faggot.
>>747598056Nepotism corporate meddling is very expensive. Top down order Blackrock and Vanguard.
>>747601918>Please free Insomniac from the Marvel slop machineDoesn't even matter if they are, the Insomniac that made good games is dead. Wolverine showed that.
>>747601918>>747602628>How the FUCK was Miles Morales almost twice as expensive as Spider-Man 1Besides what >>747601524 said I honestly think half of it was straight up trying to baseline and prototype for a lot of shit for SM2 with the jump in consoles, plus they also bundled SM1 Remastered and likely consider that a counted cost with MM. It's easy to underestimate the jump in technical costs between generations and the under-the-curtain maintenance that will happen as a result.
>from hereDude it never had any chance. Snoy HIRED fucking diabetus toddler staff, ffs.Unless hired with premise of doing the opposite of whatever that creature advised, it was a planned stillbirth from the start
>>747598073Enjoy your gay wolverine.
There's enough retards and children who will buy this, just needs to sell 3.5M at $89.99 to make a profit, not too hard with the absolute state of snoyggers
>>747602417What happened to them? Same thing with Level-5. Make some of the greatest games then only dogshit.
>>747599676Is that counting the mouse's royalties ?
>>747598056Tons of money is going to the salaries of useless people.
>>747598073lol, this has to be a bait post. Nobody wants this shit
>747598073Anyone that says shit like this is just performative and fishing for attention.
>>747597995>Miles Morales, a glorified standalone DLC that used 90% pre-existing assets and gameplay mechanics, and only had about 8 hours of story and 12 hours of content if you did absolutely everything there is to do>$156 millionWhat in the actual fuck? What the FUCK are they doing with all that money?
>>747603031Sony doesnt make 100% of the game sales plus they need to pay Disney a royalty. This is why they want all digital. To get a bigger cut.
>>747597995That spiderman 2 cost so much when they reused so much, the entire city even, is the most insane.
>>747599985The new Ratchet is planned for 2029 if we are going by the leaks.Spiderman 3 might also be split into two games
>>747603310Hookers and blow, if I had to guess.
>>747598073>You'll never get WolverineThank Christ
>>747603346Honestly we need to see how the sales go for this one. If the 6 million or Marvel cuts and runs deal is true from the leaks and wasn't re-negotiated at any point, the bad publicity for Wolverine may lead to Spider-Man 3 never even getting off the ground.
>>747603346>Wolverine being a bomb results in them cancelling that so they can go straight back to Spider-Man for a cash injection
>>747597995315 MIllion
>>747600783Its just a circle jerk of fags and women in CaliforniaThe moment they moved there, Sony's fate was sealed.
>>747603310Alanah Pearce’s cut
>>747603556>The New NormalSubtle.
>>747597995can we just have ratchet and clank games please, I'm not a furry but at least they were fun why the fuck are they making gay super hero games and bad ones at that.
>>747600061Based guy with god awful taste, letting you know which games are trash.
>>747598679hopefully all of it the sony cunts can go bankrupt for all I care
>>747600508Prime 4 suffers from dev hell tho
>>747603310Making the fucking game? Do you know why games costs money to make right? You don't pay for the pixels you pay for the time used to make the game.As for why it's expensive, blame on the US being a mismanaged falling apart shithole.
>>747603310A ton of useless people paying themselves outrageous salaries. That's where the overwhelming majority of video game budgets go.
>>747600029Wouldn't you do the same?
>>747597995Buy an ad or go back to twitter
>>747603069Sony went from having their HQ in Japan to California. That's what it was.It's not a mystery.
I'm convinced the higher ups at Insomniac are just buying million dollar mansions with all that money at this point. There's no way they spent all that on the linear simple game that Wolverine turned out to be. Even the single dude who made Lost Souls Aside made a game with a more complex combat system than Wolverine.
>>747601173there's only 5 games on ps5 that've sold over 6million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_5_video_games
>>747597995>spiderman 90m>spiderman 2 305mLMFAOOOOOOO JUST BURN IT TO THE GROUND
syro sucksratchet sucksreisstance sucksspiderman sucksremedy and insomniac just merge and call themselves rememdy for insomnia because both companies games put me to fucking sleep
>>747597995>most expensivefor those curious, the most expensive games to develop were Monopoly Go and Star Citizen
>>747603771Shut up Jeet.
>>747603926Stocking up on ammo yet, Cletus?
>>747597995>keep pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into singular products>barely break even at bestJust. Make. Normal. Video. Games.
>>747597995Which game will lead to more firings, Halo Campaign Evolved or Wolverine?
>>747604024Wolverine, but they'll just end up finding jobs at other studios so nothing will improve.
>>747603918>Monopoly Go.. is this conflating some sort of live service cost factor of constant development or an actual legitimate problem with a fucking mobile game, what the absolute hell
>>747604024campaign evolved was mostly made by 18 month contractors and outsourcing anyway. halo doesn't really keep people around, they chew them up and spit them out every year and a half, so technically everyone but handfuls of consistent employees at best go bye bye
>>747603346>VenomAh so they can recycle all the venom gameplay from Spider-Man 2 kek.
>>747603425They'll get their sales at any cost, bundles or half off within 6 month
>>747604323Still going to have a budget of at least 200 million btw.
>>747602557lol, it actually happened Mr. Troon. Maybe you should google before telling someone they’re wrong.
>>747604323And still somehow have a larger budget
>>747598056>exact same map>3.5x more expensiveMakes you think
>>747600508>Nintendo's Metroid Prime 4 needed 2 Million to break even>Meanwhile Metroid Dread only needed 550k to break even>Ocarina of Time 2026 has a smaller budget than Pokemon Wind and WavesYou don't know any of that, retard.
>>747597995why that mich money? doesn't look that impressive
>>747597995Where the fuck is all that money going?
Sounds like a management issue.Who approved the games having those kind of budgets and failed to keep tabs on progress with deadlines approaching?
>>747602860It's not like their track record was spotless before, there's still hope
>>747603346>Marvel>Marvel>Marvel>Marvel>Insomniac>Marvel
>>747597995second because the marketing didn't even start RUMAO.How the fuck did a sequel cost this much ? what must someone do to be allowed to funnel money to their friend so easily ?
>wastes 300 million on 1 game>meanwhile nintendo with stuff like tomadachi life is maybe 1/10 of that budget and makes much more backwhy do we need movie games for along with expensive actor face scans?
>>747601918Bear in mind, it's just the X-Men license that'll get revoked if it fails to sell 6m in the next 12 months. Spiderslop will continueWhy the fuck are Sony so obsessed with pedalling another company's IP?
>>747605517Sony "this needs more walking sections" of America.
>>747605529>Why the fuck are Sony so obsessed with pedalling another company's IP?because all the ones they had during the ps1 era weren't taken care of like nintendo does with their stuff
>>747603310Sending it to israel
>>747597995I could not give less of a fuck about this game, why do you guys have multiple threads up constantly about this fucking gay game?
>>747603839Poor sonyggie.
>>747605517>why do we need movie games for along with expensive actor face scans?They people who make these games feel embarrassed about making video games so they have to try as hard as possible to make them movies and not video games.
>>747603853California really is the worst thing to have happened to the world.
>>747605529>Why the fuck are Sony so obsessed with pedalling another company's IP?The developers they still have either got replaced with new heads that want to push new shit (Horizon, God of War, Spider-Man, Ghost of [x], Last of Us) exclusively, or they burned out on churning out their older stuff. and the rest just got axed eventually / inevitably to make way for live service shit. You license someone else's crap, you get fallbacks and external funding to justify it with less risk on your part.
>>747605842https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-dao5lXfzE&list=RD0-dao5lXfzE
uh oh>but they already pre-ordered>gorillion gta 6 pre-orderskek. tick tock
>>747605517they got one successful movie slop game and chased the trend.your supposed to let retard lose all their money do it, not making the trend and being the retard just after
>>747597995Insomniac is literally the meme>Rent: $1200>Food $800>Car insurance and gas: $400>Scented Candles: $2500>Please help me budget I don’t want to starveBut instead of scented candles it’s DEI salaries
And I'm quoting this directly from an early review copy reciever "This game is ass"
Is Sony read to admit letting a bunch of trannys in HR dictate how and what games are made is a mistake yet?
>>747597995Where the fuck is the money going? It can't MOSTLY be Sweet Baby, etc.
>>747597995Why did they spent 156 million making a DLC???
>>747605731Sony never owned Spyro or Crash, for the record
I maintained from the very beginning that the original spiderman was midMy review was titled Not-so-Amazing spider-man I found the traversal to be the kind of thing I wanted I really enjoyed the presentation of the game with the phone calls and the podcasts, And the attention to detail' the hidden collectables, how they recorded all the voice lines twice so if you were standing still he spoke clearly but if you were swinging he was out of breath I like the way that the music was connected to your movement, And I found the doc ock twist to be unexpected and enjoyable The game's presentation was great But that's it, I found the moment to moment gameplay especially the combat to be extremely dull, Counting down the moments that my special would recharge so I could just screen wipe the enemies and get out of there The terrible Mary Jane stuff The antiquated gadget wheel, And the gadgets that thematically made no sense for the character And my final recommendation was if you are a huge Spider-Man fan and like his past games it's worth picking up, But if you aren't then it's an easy skipBy the time the second one rolled around it did make slight improvements over the things I didn't like about the first one but absolutely butchered all of the good stuff from the first as well I gave that one a firm do not recommend, Go play web shadows you will get a better game that tells the same exact story
>>747606651I know but they could have. Though in the end it's likely for the best given how they don't give a fuck about those sort of games anymore
None of these games are worth playing. How are some of them as or more expensive than an NBA player's salary?
>>747604353If they charge half as much they have to sell twice as many, genius
>>747598056>why was spiderman 2 ultra expensive?Gotta pay out the ass to all the diversity niggers on the payroll that don't do any work yet still feel entitled to 8x the salary as the programmers.
>>747603031>just needs to sell 3.5M at $89.99 to make a profitIt's already discounted mate
>>747597995Why did Sony spend so much on Concord, Bungie, and Wolverine? Like seriously, why the fuck did Bungie spend $4 BILLION dollars on Bungie? It's just been straight losses for them, literally AI could make better decisions than whoever is currently running Sony.
>>747597995Man, at least Spider-Man 2 had actual gameplay, cool traversal and a bunch of shit to do, despite all the anti-Peter crap and MJ (Man Jaw) "I'm an empowered wombyn who don't need no (Spider) man. Spending 300 millions to develop a corridor "occasionally press X to cool stab" movie game is horrifying
>>747598056because of the deaf girl and the need to animate everything she signs.
>>747598343look, some gameplay, a completely alien concept to sony moviegame devsthe people that flunked out of writing and movies using games as their springboard (or shitting it up out of spite) need to fuck off
>>747600508>Pokemon Wind and Waves which is rumored to be 25 MillionIf this is true at all, no wonder every Pokemon game past the handheld generation is dogshit. they're making that shit on a shoestring budget
>>747607762More like a jewstring budget. They have the money, and Nintendo has begged them to step it up, even offering to fund in themselves, but they refuse to invest actual money into the flagship of the most valuable media property ever.
>>747597995They've wasted billions of dollars on basically nothing because they haven't seen any return on their investments with all the live service cancellations and bungie flop. They tried copying Microsoft with these high budget games and acquisitions, without the money in the bank. And it all failed.
>>747600981No
>>747600981No.
>>747603310A lot of the gameplay in Miles was a lot better than the first game, but the writing was much worse.
>>747598837>Spider-Man PS4>Estimated dev period during 2014-2018>Insomniac wasn't owned by Sony>Spider-Man Miles Morales>Estimated dev period during 2018-2020>Insomniac was bought out by Sony in 2019>Spider-Man 2>Estimated dev period during 2019-2023>55% of Insomniac's key employees had left the company after Sony bought them outThat's how.
why doesnt sony just start throwing money into a big pit of fire at this point. it'd be a lot more efficient
>>747603346>Snoyvel Cinematic Universe
>>747600551>FUCKING>HOW
>>747605529>Why the fuck are Sony so obsessed with pedalling another company's IP?Sony always was this way, playstation was a trap to steal nintendo IPs
>>747598837It cost them a lot to model Queens and Brooklyn.
>>747602012>There is no way for them to recover from here.Did you forget how Spider-Man 2 reached its numbers on PS5? They'll just do it again for Wolverine.
>>747603918this is bullshit
>>747605529>Why the fuck are Sony so obsessed with pedalling another company's IP?Their entire history has been them making money on IPs they don't own. Even outside Playstation: just look at some of their highest grossing movies and music albums. In this particular case though, Sony's main branch doesn't want to relinquish any of the Marvel-related rights they still own because those have always been breadwinners for them. It'd be extremely difficult for them to work on Marvel stuff again once The Mouse wrests control from them and it joins the rest of the Disney+ slurry, especially when Disney wouldn't need Sony/Playstation to handle any adaptation projects.
>>747605517We stopped giving a shit about small profits.Now it's just gambling on multiple expensive projects and hoping one will blow up and reach Fortnite levels of popularity. Funny thing is, that this is a dumb linear action game, but not a Last of Us that was impressive (for normies) either. There is no way for them to win with this game
>>747604219It's made $5 Billion USD so it's at least justified. 90% of that budget went straight to all the microtransaction bullshit where you have a gorillion different boards and player pieces.
>>747602887>and prototype for a lot of shit for SM2 with the jump in consolesBut then SM2 goes and costs nearly double as much
>>747605517Sony successfully cultivated the audience for movie games for the past 20 years. That's what Sonyfags expect when they buy a Playstaion. At the same time they drove off the audience that liked smaller games like Parappa or Ape Escape. If they make those games now there will be no one to buy them
>>747605909Women too
>>747610018Pretty much. Astrobot received crazy amounts of advertising to distract from Concord’s failure and only sold 1 million copies increasing to 2 million after winning GotY. “Kiddie looking” platformer games is not what anyone still on PlayStation wants.
>>747597995It's a 12 hour long linear game. How did you even do this?
>>747598642These leaked Insomniac budgets didn't include either marketing or licensing fees to use Marvel IP, so all the listed numbers are only a fraction of the actual money spent.
>>747610018>>747610246The problem is you need consistent releases to build a long term fanbase. Kids have to grow up with your games so they have nostalgia for them as adults. Sony needs to put out an Astro Bot or Parappa every two years for the franchises to stay relevant.
>>747605972I love being in Europe where I can override the Sony policy and refund whatever I fucking want to within 2 weeks and the jews can't do anything about it
>>747597995its coming to pc lol
>>747604323I can’t wait for it to not even be as good as Ultimate Spider-Man on the ps2
>>747597995>Marvel>Marvel>Marvel>MarvelThe absolute fucking state of Ins.oyniac
>>747605517It's even worse because Nintendo treats their games as "evergreen" titles, they expect them to continue selling for several years after launch which is how they get away with only having 1-2 games in each IP on a given console. Hell, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is STILL in the top 10 for Nintendo's digital store, a ranking that resets every month, because people are still buying that game in droves.
>>747598056Because the new DEI hires and women took the money to spent it on their private hobbies and shit instead of doing a good game.
>>747597995>Miles Morales 156 millionsLitteraly how ? It's just a chrismas skin for the map, it's a 6 hours long dlc, 10 max if you do the substories
>>747606408Wait so this whole gay shit wasn't fake? That article was real?
AAA was a mistake. We need to retvrn to AA. More titles overall, each with only as much budget as necessary to make it.
>>747599805>>747603310For some reason it's not obvious even though it should be. It's salary. Literally just paying employees. Insomniac has ~450 employees and they're located in California. If their average salary (between jannies, HR karens, devs, senior devs, artists, managers, whatever) is a ballpark $80,000, it's literally $36 million a year just to pay them. Then there's other stuff like litigation, pensions, 401ks, legal stuff, etc. Also marketing budget which I don't think is counted here but it could be. Also the budget probably includes more stuff like outsourcing, Disney cuts, whatever.
>>747611117>Eromanga SenseiCoward.
>>747600508>Pokemon Wind and Waves which is rumored to be 25 MillionThis a late ps2 tier budgetPokemon is the license that generated the most money in the whole world history, in just 30 years
>>747605370Marvel coal mines.
>>747600508Pokemon games always make their budgets back on preorders alone. And they have legs because kids are always getting into the franchise. So why increase the budget if the profits are already at their ceiling?
>>747602887>I honestly think half of it was straight up trying to baseline and prototype for a lot of shit for SM2 with the jump in consolesBut there is little no difference between spiderman 1 on ps4 and spiderman 2 on ps5>Muh ssdYeah and ? It's basic tech, doesn't cost hundreds of millions, doesn't cost anything at all it's just faster, I play 25 years old games on a nvme, they don't need patch, they just work>Muh textureOh no, 1080p to 1440p
>>747604024wolverine
>>747603310paying consultants like sweet baby
>>747611398I didn't believe at first either but the article is real
>>747598056costs start ballooning when you hire 200 consultants to avoid putting excessive racism and sexism in your game
>>747603346What happens to these plans if Wolverine doesn't sell enough and Marvel/Disney pull out?
>>747597995Why was Miles Morales so much more expensive than SM1, when they didn't have to go through the process of designing the engine and go through a long preproduction period?
>>747612247Marvel will revoke the exclusivity rights to X-Men games.
>>747612356Miles had revamped gameplay that was a lot better, and then they threw it in the trash when 2 rolled around.
>>747600541What's the name of that game already?
>>747611398Yes lmao
>>747610694bullshit
>>747608992Have you seen the royalty rate Marvel gets on X-Men bundles? Sony might as well cut out the middleman and make dummy accounts to repeatedly buy it digitally
>Rift Apart was 81 million dollarsWhoa. Wonder if they broke even.
>>747597995$305 Million for one single game...
>>747600551Inflation.
>>747611398Yes. Now they’re trying to backtrack and say they worded it wrong, and that people are misinterpreting it, when we’ve seen firsthand what they mean by Logan yearning for Sabertooth.
>>747612247Same thing that happened to tlou2 multiplayer or spider-man multiplayer : cancelled
>>747612364Give me a Professor X game where you solve mind puzzles and get into psychic battles with Magneto.
>>747601237Close. Cali taking over PS offer us a good look at how (((US capitalism))) operates : - Japan just wanted to make games - US: nepotism, woke shit in and gameplay out, and millions squandered on ‘consultancy’ of dubious interest.All of this is a feature, not a bug.
>>747612434Resistance 2
>>747611150Like it or not, it obviously works. I feel bad for kids today, the only reason I got to play 90% of the games I did was because of either Blockbuster or Greatest Hits rereleases.
>>747612764You just want to spam the Holocaust Beam.
This is a game that is not going to be affected by bad reviews. Its targeting the super mega normies who dont watch reviews
>>747612764It will be a bunch of weird filters and gravity effects while you walk forward towards a mirage that keeps teleporting away every time you get close
>>747612918>professor x game>walk forward
>>747612106>>747612439>>747612643Can you link the real article?
>>747601728He's one of those consumers that only buys products that are destined to fail horribly but they hired one as a reviewer. I kneel.
>>747612638This is not the place for your degen fetish
>>747598343Raven made a bunch of great games. Its a shame they got thrown into the COD mines
>>747610694I'm in Europe and I dont think snoy lets you refund ever as soon as you download the game. The only time I ever got a refund was for cyberpunk due to the huge shit show around it.
>>747612643Why does the bottom literally look like when Michael Jordan is smooshed into a ball shape in Space Jam?
Not to agree with the retards on this board, but it is funny how you can’t fail quick times considering how Origins goes out of it’s way to gut them in favour of more player controlled action set pieces
I don't get it, why are there some men furiously defending this game, are they just engagement farming/baiting or are full blown faggots?
>>747613030He literally said they would be mind puzzles, retard. His astral form isn’t crippled too
>>747613061 Here you go.>Freed from the familiar, iconic love triangle involving X-Men leader Scott Summers (Cyclops), the Logan and Jean pairing is finally allowed rare tenderness. Even Logan’s famously violent rivalry with Sabretooth has room for love. When the two attack a military base, Sabretooth grabs the back of Logan’s head in a brief moment of yearning.>“Logan feels that yearning and he gets scared and pulls away. Sabretooth feels that yearning and it makes him hurt and want to lash out to exert that hurt outward,” Williams said. “Hate and love are so hand in hand ... you hurt me so I’m going to hurt you, and we’re still going to be linked because now the pain is shared.”Relevant section.https://archive.is/ATmE3#selection-857.0-863.324Archive of the Washington Post article.
>>747613729The only ones you can fail are the ones enemies put you into, and they won’t even kill you.
>>747613821You actually think they could get away with that in the era of magic D&D wheelchairs?
>>747603346What the fuck was the point of doing team x with Jean if a true x-men game was in the pipeline?
>>747597995Kind of funny how the only good Marvel game these fucks have made was just a straight rip-off of Beenox's PS3 Spider-Man game.Niggas need to go back to just staying in their lane with Ratchet and Clank. Its clearly all they can do.
>>747613840But of course, the community manager will continue to lie about this like we don’t have eyes.https://x.com/JamesStevenson/status/2098575921653440642
>>747604323Nigger, he’s only playable because they had this planned
>>747613996Because Wolverine is just Insomniac’s adaptation of X-Men Origins Wolverine.
>>747603214Quote like a man, you pussy faggot.
>>747614124But we must be >better men
>>747600206Gta6 will be it After gta6 normies won't be willing to shell out anymore ps6 won't sell half of ps5 sales
>>747613840Jesus Christ, that’s the gayest shit I’ve ever read.
>>747612643>he literally has his back arched Make this humiliation ritual stop.
>>747598642They had hundreds of employees working years on end in commiefornia, so over $100k/year at the low end. That's already $200m of the budget.
How the fuck did Spiderman 2 THE VIDEOGAME cost more than the movie
Kinda wish I pursued a career as a AAA DEI hire, seems like a cushy job. Then again I'm a Chink so I'm pretty low on the DEI scale I guess.
>>747614438It's money laundering It's a giant money laundering scam and all the big studios are in on it They plan to take the money and run
Why are Spiderman and Wolverine so expensive? License? Cause Yotei was like 60 Million
>>747614508pretend you're gay and you might have a better chance desu
I wonder what the real budget was. Everyone is pulling the 300m from the "projected budget" of a 2023 leak, and Sony made them do budget cuts after Spider-Man 2 underperformed vs its actual 315m budget.This was back when Wolverine was going to have hub-areas, and Jean Grey playable. They scaled down the game significantly, it definitely didn't cost 300m.
>>747612849How vile of Charles to do, to just beam straight up lies into people's heads.
>>747603310>Costs more then Breath of the Wild.
>>747615001It’s $305 million
Imagine a $300 million under 10 hours linear game except that money was put towards making it super fucking good what a waste...
>>747598056Just imagine how much money was spent on the stupid fucking sidequest where you learn about black musicians and even Miles doesn't really care he's just doing it to help his mom.
>>747615478>Source: I made it the fuck upThen this is the part where you just show the leak which I already mentioned, which is before they cut like half the game out. Did they even keep wall running in the full game? They sure as hell cut out all the hub-areas and side quests. Filler shit, but it would explain why they thought it would cost alot of money to pad out runtime.
>>747615568It’s 12 hours.
>>747597995I feel that yearning
I haven't had a goystation since the psp. I seriously have no idea why anybody would own one. Actual subhumans.
>>747615648Why are you convinced it isn’t over $300 million? Sounds like you’re coping with the fact that Insomniac made a stinker.
https://x.com/BlooHook/status/2098720634339504506This has to be false advertising.
>>747613030>>professor x game>>walk forward>he doesn't know
>>747613840>When the two attack a military base, Sabretooth grabs the back of Logan’s head in a brief moment of yearning.That sounds 100% gay
>>747613840The 300 million dollar yaoi fanfic.
>>747615731I don't care about a game I won't play, nor a company who puts out open world mediocrity. I think its just funny people cling to a leak 3 years before the game comes out, projecting it budgets vs the increased scope at the time. They scaled back the game, therefore the budget woudln't be as high.
>>747597995>cost for the staff to make the game$60 million>cost for licensing the IP today$200+ million>tax fraud>$500 million
>>747616276>I don’t care Sure you don’t, bud. You commented and tried to defend a multbillion dollar corporation because you didn’t care.
>>747615731>PS5 and PCOh shit I just realized the PC version's cancelled too, there's no fucking way Sony's gonna be able to sell a pozzed as fuck Wolverine game with no gameplay in it to the ball and gun demographic.
>>747616134comics are so fucking gay
Will it be a bigger flop than Sunset Overdrive?Total Sales: Around 1.9 million units sold on Xbox One and PC.Net Sales: Generated $49.7 million in total revenue.Development Budget: Cost roughly $42.6 million to make.
>>747598343Is this on PC?
it is kinda amazing if Sony Music didn't exist Sony would have gone under a long time ago
>>747601918the exaggerated swagger of a black teen does not come cheap
>>747616470I saw the first hour, and you only have an attack, lunge, parry and counter, the slowest cooldown abilities known to man, and a rage bar. It’s the worst gameplay I’ve seen in a decade.
>>747616661that game was pretty good at least
>>747597995What will Insomniac do when Disney takes away their Marvel license?
>>747616470Thanks for that clarification, I was getting worried modders might actually try and save that turd
>>747617114>It’s the worst gameplay I’ve seen in a decade.No cap?
>>747616661At least SO was a game
>>747612643And here I thought that incest gave them the ick.
>>747597995People think Concord was crazy, but the failure of Wolverine is about to change everything.
>>747612506>>747613443https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/legal/service-cancellation-request/right of withdrawal allows for itit was the only way to refund on Steam no questions before they added the automated mechanism
He won.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWZkxjfFCCM
>>747598056The game had a shit ton of "consultants". The game even made money, but there's a reason Sony cancelled all the DLC and abandoned it, and it's probably because of how much was being stolen. The game realistically shouldn't have cost more than 50 million to shit out. It's virtually identical to the first one
>>747620227Don't care about your shitty ecelebs but it's funny that even normies are shitting on this game
>>747619542Holy KINO, I got goosebumps reading that!
>>747600206People inside Sony have said that the entire company is depending on GTA 6 to get back into the green. Sony's 30% cut from that game is basically rescuing the company from bankruptcy over the past six years
>>747597995could have gotten three aaa ratchet and clank games for the price of one wolverine... fucking hell
>>747620690Yeah, but they have nothing after GTA6. The failure of Wolverine is about to change everything? We haven't even seen Intergalactic, Fairgame$, Horizon Hunter Gatherers, etc. One of these games is going to have to be sent out to die against Mario or whatever.
>>747597995For those who care for real answer and not shitposting.Wolverine was an open world game like batman arkham city or spiderman and even bigger in scale, and you were to play as multiple characters, early prototypes are still online built on spiderman 2 engine where you can see jean gameplay, its part of that clunky as fuck build.It had puzzles, faster combat and a lot of exploration, ech character played differently.This was dropped and game was completely remade from ready assets in last 18 months.It was open world under the games director Brian Horton ... then he was fired from the studio since Marcus Smith and Mike Daly wanted it to be on rails Uncharted style game, forcing a lot of crunch and complete game overhaul. Its why it feels so half assed, it is.I heard a lot more stories about this situation, im surprised people missed this since its not like it was some secret, leak screenshots and some news bits are still online.
>>747597995How the fuck was Spider-Man 2 4x as expensive as 1 when they already did all the hard and expensive work making the city, animations, art assets, rigging, engine work, etc. for the first game????The whole fucking point of doing a sequel like that is to save money and make a bunch more based on the success trailblazed by the first game where you did all the hard work already. That's why the Arkham games were able to fucking print money, they started small scale with Asylum and then made City and from City they could easily reuse assets to make Origins and Knight, what the fuck is Insomniac doing where SM2 costs FOUR HUNDRED PERCENT of what SM1 did????
>>747597995>>747598056I don't know why everyone's so mystified by the expense of these games. Purely in terms of graphical fidelity, they're some of the very best looking games on the market and that's the primary cost of game development especially when you're using Californian labor.It's just a shame that all that fidelity is in service of such mid games.
>>747621051It doesn't look two hundred million dollars better than Spider-Man 1 though
>prefer to watch let's plays with all the filler cut out>search jewtube for "wolverine part 1">get hour long streams, fuck that>add filter of videos 3-20 minutes long>no let's play, only get reviews and tips videos
>>747620940needed to pay about 20 million to ensure there was a black deaf girl who lectured you that black lives mattered
>>747603853-insomniac is making shitty marvelslop-Guerilla is making more horizonslop nobody cares about.-Santa monica is making God of War: Hagnarok-Naughty Dog is making bald blasian simulator-Asobi is radio silent. 2 years since Astro Bot and no new game announced-Sucker Punch is silent and its last game was open world samurai game but with an ugly chick this time.-media molecule has had nothing to show for 6 yearsgenuinely what the fuck is this company doing?
>>747610246Astro bot as sold 4 million on basically a new IP. And it's the only PS5 exclusive actually worth buying.
I'd rather have a Snatchet & Skank game over this.
>>747621601crashing western culture, with no survivors
>>747598837money laundering
>>747598073I mean you can keep it bro
>>747598056>Made in peak woke nigger hell timeframe>Hire 50 consultants just to make sure you aren't being racist, sexist, etc (They still fucking hate you)>Add fag shit, nigger worship missions, and ugly women in the game>Peter is a bitch the entire time and practical sucks Miles' cock>Add missions where you play as deaf nigger graffitiing over Manhattan (This is a Spider-Man game btw)Same map, same engine, and 3x as expensive. They get what they deserve. I hope the whole company goes under.
>>747597995 how? it's just a linear ass 15 hour game
>>747597995I thought AI was supposed to make this cheaper? What happened?
>>747600551>Spiderman 1>OK Sony you can make a Spiderman game for the usual shovelware license fee>Spiderman 2>You can make it for... One Hundred Million dollars!
>>747621051No one's disputing the graphics. A big advantage of doing sequels is that you have a lot of work done already with the gameplay design, and assets and productions pipelines from your first game. You don't need to reinvent the wheel. People should know what they're doing already and you iterate. Sequels generally shouldn't be more expensive than their first game, never mind $200M more expensive.
>>747616661Impossible. Wolverine is still going to sell like at least 5 million within the first week then leg it out to 10 million by the end of the quarter. Normalfags do not have taste or standards.
>>747612643>Arched back300 million for gay wolverine sex scenesThey couldn't give a shit about good combat mechanics but they sure did care about that
>>747603310SBI. And not just direclty. Their intevention creates massive design churn.
It's gonna outsell Death Stranding 2 within a week
>>747600732>It sounds like Wolverine spun its wheels in development for a while>between the leak a while ago and release, a ton of shit got scrapped in the processThis is the most sound theory. Insomniac even considered adding a crossbow to Wolverine until the idea got shot down by Marvel for not being in-line with MarvelI have no idea why Insomniac wanted this character if the only thing they could do is throw enough shit at the wall to balloon the budget hundreds of millions of dollars. There must be entire games worth of scrapped content because they had no idea what to do with Wolverine.The shitty linear story probably came at the very end when they realized how much money they used and needed to have ANY product available to show.
>>747624000that would be really sad
>>747597995doesnt matter. they will make that back in a week.we should talk about how long until a sequel gets announced thanks to its groundbreaking success instead.
>>747623575Wolverine and X-Men isn't remotely as popular as Spiderman.It was never going to sell quite as well, even if it got the critical acclaim. The fact it isn't acclaimed will make it sell like a shitty licensed cashgrab.
>>747598675Because the whole atmosphere is already fart gas
Lovely to hear all these things from guys who don't know anything about game development Answer is set pieces they have to make these interactive blockbuster movies and those cost a lot of money
>>747625153it's just salaries in california
>>747625153>interactive
>>747624076Sounds like the original people who pitched Wolverine left so it became visionless and people had no clue what to do but it was too far to cancel it.
>>747623575The Deadpool & Wolverine the movie made 1.35 billion. I don't know if it was because of Wolverine, or Deadpool, or Hugh Jackman, or Ryan Reynolds, but Wolverine is still pretty up there even if he's not as big as a colossus as Spiderman is.
>>747625207Yeah you have to people making the game even if they are not making every thing from scratch
>>747598073NOOOOOE, NOOOOOOE PLEASE LET ME HAVE WOLVERRIRIEIEINENENEN
>>747624076>There must be entire games worth of scrapped content because they had no idea what to do with WolverineIt's mind-boggling. No idea what to do with Wolverine! Motherfuckers. He's a pissed off muscle guy that chomps cigars and has indestructible metal claws he cuts tanks and shit in half with. That is his entire thing. Even a normie is at least vaguely familiar with this angle. And these devs were so completely confused by that concept, they tried to give him a crossbow or other stupid shit that has nothing to do with what he's about. Remarkable. Five minutes on wikipedia would have fucking told anyone that wanted to make a game with the character how to make it. You slice shit! And potentially punch cars through walls! Maybe even treat his healing factor as a kind of combination and stamina bar. Was it the plot? Did they not know where to go for that? Could have hired the first dude in a Wolverine t-shirt you found at a comic store who could give you the Cliff notes on the most important storylines and adapt one of those. 300 million down the God-damned drain. Can you imagine going back in time, finding these people all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed as they explore the new potential of 3D games and created foundational titles for the Playstation? Walked up to them and explained that in three decades they were going to burn 300m because they couldn't figure out how to make a game about the Wolverine?
>>747597995Sincerely, why? It looks cheap as fuck.>>747598073>Still better than letting that retarded hack Kojima make gamesAt least Kojimbo's retarded premises and Hollywood thirsting makes some sense of why he burns a pile of money. Death Stranding makes no fucking sense but it's mechanically interesting and has "stars" (playing characters that might as well be pod people from Mars). You can't say you don't understand where the money goes.With projects like this Wolverine shit, it just seems like a giant scam. It's the type of derivative shit some up and coming studio puts out and you go "damn that's like a bad imitation of a real game".
>>747597995Yeah the mouse is revoking that license
>>747597995How? It plays like shovelware.
>>747597995They’re such fucking brainlets it’s unreal. The amount of fart huffing and circlejerking that must have been happening internally at Insomniac must have been insane. Retards. You get what you fucking deserve.
>>747623107Months of dev time doing pointless shit like making stubble on the short kings face ultra realistic
>>747626301it's so funny seeing retards shit on Kojima when every modern game is still trying to copy the gameplay mechanics he pioneered in his various games and failing at it.
Real question: Where does all the money go in these AAA slop factories?
>>747627098Salary and marketing.
>>747621962Focus L
>>747613443Not that guy but I've managed to refund an automatic PS+ renewal. I only realized after a week that the dogshit service had renewed on itself and still got my money back.Don't know how well it works with games since I only buy physical versions for consoles.
>>747621962Man, who toddler is this?
>>747620805The leaked version was already an on rails experience, there were no traces of open world
>>747627098California cost of living for the staff
>>747597995If at least 1 straight man still works at insomniac - send him to the psych asylum.
>>747597995I though that ratchet and clank game was like super expensive.
>>747603885Not even Nintendo's had great luck with their $70+ games. Wolverine doesn't stand a fucking CHANCE.
>>747627908Compared to the other Ratchet games it was
>>747627908It's as expensive as the witcher 3
>>747598056Same as Hollywood: EmbezzlementIt's why every suit in the business loves these gigantic productions: Really shitty, downright impossible accounting so you can pocket a shitton of money and say it was used to fund something creative that's hard to quantify. This shit happens all the time at low level businesses like garages and grocery stores.I can't imagine the kind of shit they get away with at the fuckhuge entertainment production companies.
>>747624076I'm reminded of when Ancel left ubisoft and he complained about modern devs being complete mouthbreathers. They kept trying to shove ubisoft towers in BGE2 which he did not want and they'd stare at him confused, completely incapable of parsing the request. They literally could not conceive a game without ubisoft towers.Wolverine feels much the same, they weren't trying to make a wolverine game, they were trying to make a standard tripleA game and brainstormed ideas to fit wolverine in it.Gotta have ranged weapons.Gotta have pointless resources for crafting.Gotta have stealth sections.Once they were told to axe all of that they were like headless chickens, not knowing how to make a game without that.>>747611150Ever watched jurassic park? The original? When asked why all the investors for the titular park are Japanese he replies "japanese have patience, american investors want their money NOW".Well, investors want their money now, the game could sell 10 million slowly but they'll value 5 millions NOW more.Nintendo is a company thay doesn't have to care about quarterly results, they care the company stays afloat and is liked by the public.Their strategy is one of constant releases covering several bases. Metroid sells very little compared to other franchises, but it's their one sidescroller/fps franchise, so it sticks around to keep that demographic engaged.No matter what genre you like nintendo has a game covering it.
>>747598056They needed all that money to model MJ's massive chin
>>747597995i don't get how the cheapest one was also the best looking and most mechanically complex gamedoes the marvel license cost like 150m or something
>>747612765Nigger thinks nips don't have nepo babies. Corporations there are operated like yakuza and will use a lot of dirty tricks to destroy competition.Sony of Japan did a lot of scummy shit to kill any potential xbox could've had there and Nintendo's patent trolling is well documented.>>747617431No, it's a Wolverine game.
>>747626301At least kojima games show their budget with all the autismal attention to the stupidest little details like norman reedus's piss color being based on how much you drink.And death stranding is anything but a standard tripleA game. I can respect a man making a high budget niche game because he just wants to or has something to say.It's why I love m night shyamalan. He's never boring or predictable even when it's god awful.
>>747629146I don't understand why Ancel went back to jewbisoft
I enjoy watching games fail more than I enjoy playing them. It's over for me.
>>747616724Yes, on internet archive too
>>747600732The people working at studios intentionally make games take longer to finish so they can milk their salaries.
>>747597995How in the fuck did Miles cost more than Spidey 1? It's the same map with a bit of snow and about a quarter of the content.
>>747627701Can't. We shut them all down
>>747598073You can keep it kek
>>747630101Made up numbers, since the Insomniac slides said it was far cheaper to produce due to asset recycling, thus more profitable.
>>747620797They also have cube of war for next year, that shit is flopping for sure
Every fart trail is personalised
>>747626108The fucked up thing is in a theoretical "life of Wolverine" sort of story you could literally just have different styles. A samurai Wolverine. An agent Wolverine. Destructive Weapon-X. And improvise and merge different playstyles together the further the game goes along so he gradually becomes "complete", improvising weapons when he isn't slicing dudes apart with his claws, becoming more of a hunter again and engaging on his own terms. I can SEE a crossbow theoretically thrown in during a period of a different era of his life and all, a different interpretation maybe resorting to blades and guns he finds on the field if his adamantium wasn't totally reliable or getting messed with for the plot. But they took the safest route after having nothing else pan out.
>>747597995Where did the money go? It clearly didn't go into the game.
>>747598679>>747603684What this guy said, sony bent the knee to the DEI feminiggers and they deserve to pay for it. Sony fans are massive cucks though so there is a 100% chance when sony comes grovelling on its knees begging for its players to return, they will.For me they dont deserve that trust, they deserve to flop and fail and be replaced by a better company.Go woke, go broke.
>>747597995reminder that almost the entire budget is spent on wages for milleninal women and fags
>>747632029where do you think the money goes? do you think they are buying lumber or steal beams to make the game?It's all spent on developer wages, and since unionization they work less and less hours and get paid more and more.
>>747597995hope it flops. I find no visible proof in the games of such spending. looks like shit, plays like shit. Really wanna see a detailed budged sheets and accounting charts from some deep leak hack next time.
>>747601307>guys if we lockdown for like, 2 weeks tops, the virus will die out, it doesnt last that long>sure, that sounds doab->AYO, WAY UP N SHEET, WUT BOUT US, WE NEEDS TO GO SMASH UP D COMMOONTY AN STEAL N SHEET YA FEEL ME, NIGGAS NEED TO GO WILD FO FLOYD >this just in, corona virus cases mysteriously spike for no apparent reason, also, it seems as though for some reason, african americans are more susceptible to the virus... why then, we must ask, is the medical community being so racist by not giving negroes priority access to the vaccine and are stead giving it to old white people who were going to die anyway (unironically this happened btw)>*future*>white supremacists who didnt take the corona virus vaccine back in 2020 pull ahead due to dodging the long term side effects of the jab, was covid just a racist plot to disenfranchise negroes?
It should not be ignored that American wages in general are part of the problem. American salary inflation means that American products must be ~4x as successful as products made anywhere else to be worth being made in America.
>>747629146It really feels like every new AAA game is the same game with a different skin.
>>747623560>sm2 is over three times more expensive than 1>sold only half the amount of copies of the first game>even insomniac admits they don't know where all that money wentSustainable industry btw
>>747598837you don't spend that money solely on asset creation, retard. Miles was more than part 1, too; length means nothing
>>747617431I’m serious.
>>747619454Creed isn’t Logan’s brother. That was only in X-Men Origins Wolverine.
>>747600789In 5 years, the narrative will be "Wolverine was a great game but Insomniac died because evil Sony expected too many sales"
>the combat is literally just spamming square >no launchers>no air combos>no heavy attacks>no directional inputs>no delay inputsThere’s no saving this game.https://x.com/ymnis_v1/status/2099119029684175049
>>747612643will this be your new fridge shitposting scene?
>>747619454>>747633773You would think that bigger ick would be that the conflict between Sabretooth and Wolverine begun by Sabretooth murdering and possibly raping Wolverine's native American love interest (though they of course later retconned Silver Fox to still be alive). But maybe men killing women who are in way of yaoi is what fujoshis are into these days.
>>747633864This would be too impenetrable for the average consumer in 2026.
>>747633864Why do you want to genocide disabled gamers, chud?
Miles morales cost $66 million more than the base game? Wasn’t it just glorified dlc that only lasted a couple of hours? How?
>>747597995And yet they'll never outdo Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal. The dev that was known for games with excellent combat and fun weapon and progression system now systematically shits out template-based MCU afterbirth.
>>747598056its an accounting trick. they add the engine and asset costs from the previous game, so when it seems like they profit less on paper and get taxed less, then pocket the difference in bonus payments for the managers and stock investors. miles morales is literally a DLC
>>747633864There should never have been cooldown abilities in this game. It’s implying that Wolvie gets so tired from spinning around or doing a flying knee that he can’t do one for the rest of the fight. The rage meter is also a dumb concept. It’s meant to be a system that encourages you to keep on the offensive. Level 1 boosts damage, Level 2 boosts damage even more and lets you button mash to revive yourself if you run out of health, and Level 3 activates the Symbiote Surge mode from Spidey 2.the problem isn’t that a rage meter exists, but that it’s such a bland and boring way to execute that concept. They should’ve made it like Yakuza’s Heat Gauge, or X-MOW’s Rage Meter, and let you do special moves and inputs if you had a certain amount of your meter filled up. They already did something similar in Miles Morales, with his abilities being tied to a Venom Meter, so I don’t understand why they didn’t do it again afterwards. Also, the Adaptations needed to be completely thrown out or reworked. Some of these either should’ve been apart of Wolverine’s skills from the beginning, and others are so meaningless that it’s insulting that they’re even included.
>>747634117I only watched the mobie, what the fuck was Stryker's problem anyway?>pretend that Victor went rogue and killed Wolverine's gf >give Wolverine an invincible skeleton while pretending to be his ally>Wolverine tracks Victor back to Stryker>reveal that Wolverine's gf was alive all along and has been forced to keep tabs on Wolverine>use Deadpool to try and kill them bothLiterally just never interact with Wolverine again and none of his problems would have happened
>>747634251Because I hate them and they’re annoying.
>>747598056Never mind spiderman 2, how the fuck did miles morales cost 2x what spiderman 1 cost. That was literally just a dlc with a new character was it not?
>>747634469I'm sorry anon but this part>It’s implying that Wolvie gets so tired from spinning around or doing a flying knee that he can’t do one for the rest of the fightIs just you groping to find negative things about the game. Your proposed implementation of the rage meter implies that Wolverine can only do a flying knee if he is sufficiently angry, which is just as sillyI don't have any problem with the content of your post, I just like pointing out cognitive biases
>>747598056The HR department doesn't hire itself.
>>747634662they're still using latinx unironically?
>>74760331014 layers of management with each layer having a higher salary than the layer below it.
>woke game>hundreds of millions of dollars in budget>it's formulaic, shallow and boring, with focus on cutscenesis all the budget going to shilling or are they just using these games as a money laundering scheme?
>>747634521>t. speedwatcherHe wanted to control wolverine same as he did deathwatch (or whatever that asian chick was), but wolverine woke up mid-surgery and escaped before they could fully mindwipe/lobotomize him.
>>747634906We don't know the marketing budget, the 300 is what development cost.
>>747634658I never said that, nor did I mean to imply it. I think the flying knee and tackle abilities should be baked into Logan’s base moveset rather than be cooldown or meter moves. The claw abilities should be tied to Rage Meter like Origins Wolverine. I also think they could’ve let people extend the duration of the spin and the drill by mashing the button associated with it like Origins Wolverine, but have it drain the rest of the Rage Meter as time goes on.
>>747634906The absolutely lowest possible salary for a developer is $100k a year. If you employ 100 devs, that costs $10M for a year. Scale that up to however many devs worked however many years on this and you get close to the budgetAnd again, that's the absolutely lowest possible floor of budget, $100k isn't even livable in those Commiefornian cities
>>747634694Remember the latine controversy in Spider-Man 2?
>>747626301>Death Stranding makes no fucking senseit really isn't that fucking deep bro
>>747634649Miles was basically a complete rework compared to Peter. His animations were all brand new, his abilities were new, and you had to play as him completely differently from Peter.
>>747603310>What the FUCK are they doing with all that money?DIE hires, useless HR/consultants, marketing, stupid shit like Sony mocaping a fucking Cube etc
No Evolution Suit? No buy.
>>747603918gta6 is easily 2 billion
>>747633864Even Laufey has launchers and air combos, so this just looks embarrassing by comparison. How did they go backwards from Spider-Man?
>>7476352582 trillion actually, 3 even
>>747627463Nah, there is even an earlier leak, sony leaked twice, first in the hack then in the lawsuitBut regardless, changing directions since the project lead changed mid way is usually a bad idea
>>747635191>$70 million dollars to animate a single character
>>747635249>Can grow a mustache>shaves it off so he's only got some pointy Lincoln-esque beard going onWhy? Doesn't feel very Wolverine to only shave a part of his facial hair off like that.
>>747633864At some point during development it was a lot more advanced:https://youtu.be/btpg07_OJns?si=3m6CGQ8nTE3L2BabIt had you using L2 for left hand and R2 for right hand attacks, presumably making for some interesting and creative combos.
>>747634906>is all the budget going to shilling or are they just using these games as a money laundering scheme?yes to both
>>747635085that doesn't explain how these games with all these devs are so shit
>>747635689Oh god, did they completely remove the ability to grab enemies?
>>747635894Not that I've played the game but I've seen a decent amount of footage and I've seen nothing of the sort in the finished game.
>>747597995inFAMOUS: Second Son was made with a $60 million budget, and despite being the worst inFAMOUS game, it’s still miles better than Wolverine, and looks great too. Where the hell is all that money going?
>>747635893Because anything devs do will be vetoed by suits, HR karens, DIE consultants etc.Dev puts a complicated mechanic? Suits nuke it because it wont be brain dead enough for third world which means less sales.Dev puts a nice story harking back to classics? DIE consultant nukes it because it stems from white supremacist colonialism and doesnt include enough gay nigger communism.Dev puts an attractive character and make them flirty and sexy and interesting? HR karen nukes it because le sexual assault just watch porn chud.Thats assuming devs are actually competent.Remember - in Witcher season 1 Nilffgaardian armours look like scrotum because main writer said "they are dick teehee so it fits".
>>747635689All I see is the same button mashing combat with X to epic finishers, but you can grab enemies. That's hardly "a lot more advanced"
>>747636083>because main writer said "they are dick teehee so it fits".Source?
>>747636030Senior staff + excess DEI bloat.
>>747636014Holy fuck that’s bad. They could’ve let you use weaker enemies as meat shields, or throw them at other enemies or environmental hazards to kill them. What happened during development that made them remove such a simple but important mechanic? I even saw there was a throwable weapon slot, and a monkey bar swing kick that didn’t make it into the full game.
where the money goes?
>>747636197I have a screenshot somewhere.It was literally panel of female writers ( main one was a jew of course ) who thought it was hysterical and thus the creative decision was made to make main bad guys look like ballsacks.
>>747621601>Arkane is also doing Marvel Slop>It's also been in production for so long that it's gone through the same kind of bullshit as Spood 2 and WolveringI'm fucking dying insideSpoiler if you also want to suffer
>>747635689So something like Stranger Than Heaven?
>>747617125Easy, they'll further flanderize Ratchet & ClankOr maybe Sly Cooper this time
>>747616661lol Sunset only made a $500 profit.
>>747636131>Unlocks a new combo in the middle of the fight>List of combos at the end of the video>Environmental interactions other than finishers>Throwable [something, not sure if shuriken or whatever]>Manual acrobatics instead of being magnetized to enemiesAre you blind? I'm for the record not saying that I think it looks good as I don't really care for Wolverine, I'm just flabbergasted at how they removed these features for what the finished game will have.
>>747636316The Motive Iron Man leak looks good so far.
>>747636394He threw some kunai and proximity bombs.
>>747615731>9 MILLION DOLLAR BREAKUP FEENOW I'm invested in seeing how well this game sellsEspecially since they're not doing PC anymoreThis shit will be bundled with everything and on a 40% sale by christmas
>>747597995It's not over, but Insomniac is done, Naughty Dog are done. Sony PlayStation can't afford anymore flops and these studios will end them. The writing is on the wall.
>>747597995lol who cares? its only investors losing money on this. normal people are getting paid.
>>747636254>>747635894>>747635689There's a lot of potential hereimagine the ability to hold R2 or L2 to keep your claws stuck in someone to fucking pummel them with the other hand or use them as a shield
>>747635689The section where it showed claw and fist upgrades seems like it had a lot of empty space. Maybe they could’ve been planning on adding other weapons earlier in development too.
>>747636541>But muh gamesIt's not like new studios can't be formed and new franchises made. I don't get these dorks either, I don't get why anyone cares at this point.
>>7475980561/3 of the budget automatically lost to marketing1/6th of the budget lost in HR, admin and the "do nothing" jobs in most companies now1/3rd of the budget automatically goes to board of directors, investors and ideas guy's new yachts
>>747634469I'm sick of skill trees
>>747636541tell that to ex-bungie employees kek
Here's some exploration/traversal gameplay as well, from the old build:https://youtu.be/3w30tlkW7m8?si=kAZtWgGogqthOp-K
A shame it's not on pc so we can't laugh at the steam chartshope this game bombs as bad as it can
>>747636541Normal devs who are stuck in corporate limbo doing uncreative work because they need the salaryImagine if instead they were working on actually good games; those big studio productions are changing what artists in school learn, and changing what they're expected to do professionnaly, instead of bringing anything of themselves to the tableIt's art-death
>>747636492It’s the number one best selling game on the PlayStation Store right now, but that might not mean much because it’s only available on PlayStation, and Suicide Squad was the best selling game on there at one point, and we know that flopped.
>>747615731>digital sales has different Marvel percentage cut>18 vs 26%Not gonna lie, Insomniac may be the key reason why they went full digital. Sony licensed some expensive IPs and wants to keep more money plus they can jack up digital prices to physical ones.
>>747636541>its only investors losing money on thisInverstors are losing anything, that shit would be long gone if that was the case.
>>747601656>there's no such thing as bad publicity
>>747636793No, fuck them. Budget your money, stop going to starbucks, work with people who matter if it really means that much to you. This narrative that people are "trapped in AAA" is complete nonsense.
>>747636814This is also implying the Playstation store's layout isn't directly influenced by factors outside of actual sales
>>747597995$305 and they have a structure that indulged someone saying "let's have a a woman mocap Wolverine and a man mocap Mystique to show the chuds"
>>747636664It’s less of a skill tree and more of a skill loadout. Adaptations are different passive skills you can equip if you have enough points, but you can’t equip them all. The idea is to use the Adaptations to help you find your own play style, and give you more advantages for playing that way, but it doesn’t work because the combat is as boring as oatmeal, and a lot of the Adaptations are completely useless, like 10% faster cooldown if an ability is mapped to the X button.
>>747597995yet its not even half as good as sunset overdrive
>>747636839okay so where are the profits coming from?
The adult daycare industry for foids is coming to an end. They’ll all be sucking dick for a fiver in a few years.
>>747637070I meant "investors arent losing anything.>where do profits come fromBullshit jewish fake money manipulation.
>300 million dollars for thisand to no one's surprise, all the "capitalism bad, rich people bad" wokes are shilling these products like the world depends on it
>>747636613Exactly. There’s so much they could’ve done, but they just trashed it all for no discernible reason.
>>747600257Ifucking love opposite day.
>>747603556Why is she so ugly. She's supposed to be an absolute bombshell and supermodel in the comics
>>747637408She is a self insert for the main writer.
>>747633864They actually did the meme
>>747600029>Didn't all the BLM heads just embezzle all the money?they just needed to take a break... they wanted to catch their breath
>>747597995>>747598056Money laundering.
>Sony finally dyingYou get what you fucking deserve.
>>747598073You can keep wokekrino, cockroach. It's a game made by retards for retards.
>>747600551spiderman was an open world game. wolverine isn't... imposing borders cost money
>>747598056Cost of labor goes up over time so naturally any game they make from here on out is going to have higher budgets in average unless they find a way to downsize while keeping their throughput at an acceptable level
Here’s your Jean Grey, X-Bros.
>spend more money with each new game>make an increasingly worse game every timeHow, is it literally just money launding atp?
>>747600642>I could retire with 1 million.no you couldn't because taxes and IRS
>>747598056the hypercapitalist corporation gave $215 million to black people and trannies for reasons
>>747637798Unironically suits. The more money a developer (who isn't private) makes, the more they swoop in like the vultures they are, trying to make sure they can make even more money. They start macromanaging things that would've been far better off without their input, and things turn to shit.
>>747637889>They start macromanaging things that would've been far better off without their input, and things turn to shit.Didn't work out for Microsoft when they did the complete opposite and let their studio acquisitions just sit on and incubate projects for awhile.
>>747637927Indeed: a healthy middle ground is usually what works best in the long run.
>>747598056DEI. Instead of a 100 men making your game, you have 200 women and trannies not doing much so you outsource half the work to 300 indians, ending up with 500 people and a shit product.
>>747637889Suits get their money mostly by Hollywood bookkeeping, stock schemes and other Jewish tricks. The concrete development budgets are mostly just salaries and they have been skyrocketing with living expenses in American coasts.
>>747598073>You'll never get WolverineCorrect and I own a PS5.
>>747598056Consultants and execs taking home 200k++/year and 7 digits/year respectively over its production time, unironically. None of those groups improve the actual gameplay.
>>747598679All of it. Fixing the problem would require admitting the icky chuds were right - they'll never do that.
>>747598073>You'll never get WolverineOh no.
>>747600551DEI
amazingincrediblenot even that long ago, games based on movies and even comics were known to be bad except for a few. after gamergate and the forceful switch in the audience coupled with the superhero mega boom around the same time, this shit became one of the industry's standards now. what happens to an industry whose stanards bomb left and right? and before they bomb and flop, they get a ton of negative press. how are they still going? all of them, i mean. not just sony
>>747605517Apparently Nintendo games are for kids because they lack realism and the normiebrain can't get immersed into the game if none of the characters look like Debra Wilson... that's why the mature videogame console for the big boys and girls and nonbinaries aka Sony Playstation has to bring in the realism
>>747597995And yet it looks like shit and is genericLiterally i could spend a month on AI sloptokens and shit out a better looking and playing game than thisAAA is fucking dead and obsolete
>>747638670okay, but normalfags love nintendo too and they fight/hate sonyshitters. there's no way nintendo sells that much without normalfags
>>747633864Would it have killed them to at least add any complexity to their combat?
>>747614969Don't give him false hopes. White women benefit the most from DEI since the elites use DEI as a means to increase women in the workforce. Not for productivity but for eye candy.
>>747598056>animating black people hairYou're actually close, they had to do a separate research for those kinds of hair, both in modelling and animation.
>>747598550They remade it like 4 times, because that stupid idea "fuck you, lakefags, my Max is Bruce Willis in Brazil " didn't work
>>747600732>play Wolverine game titled "Wolverine">here is your roastie Jean Grey sectionOnly modern Insomniac could even come up with something like this as a gameplay concept. But in general it's no surprise really, every studio where the content went this way also had a sudden downhill trajectory in quality and technical ability, where it quiet literally seems like they can't into video games anymore after producing quality in the past.
>>747598073>You'll never get WolverineI can't tell if this is a serious or a comedy post.
>>747600732>Jean Gray was supposed to be playableFuck that. We should’ve had Sabertooth sections that built on the Venom segment from Spidey 2.
>>747608992>They'll just do it again for Wolverine.but wasn't there a ps5 shortage? was that a lie so they can "pump up" wolverine's numbers with ps5 bundles?
>>747613551LMAO
>>747615731This is one of the worst deal if have ever seen.
>>747636824That license cut will just bump up anyways once physical stops being an option.
Holy shit
>>747640406that is one loaded sentence. it kinda looks like bait, but I know it's true.
>>747598073The PS5 emulator will fix that.
>>747640558I had to look it up. It's unfortunately real and it's on her IMDb.
>>747640406every day manifesting the firebombing of LA
>>747640406Not sure if parody or real
>>747598073>You'll never get Wolverineo mai gotto thisu isu sucha terribu lossu desu
>>747640406
>>747638736>there's no way nintendo sells that much without normalfagstell that to Sony who seems obsessed with realistic graphics and facescanning
>>747598073>You'll never get Wolverineand that's a good thing>>747600257you jest, but sonyfags started posting exactly like this the second Sony broke up with kojima. years of fellating the guy just to turn on him in the end
>>747640406This is beyond parody.
>>747633493Because investors and most of the remaining devs in the AAA industry want the games to be conveyor belt products with only small, superficial differences between them. The problem with making any entertainment product like this is that over time it becomes incredibly stale to its customers, because most people like some variety. Entertainment will never be as simple as making something like coke or furniture, but hell if they won't keep trying
>>747641237The Sonygros live to defend the honor of their massa.
>>747638736normalfags aren't a monolith, as weird as this sounds. some normalfags have been turning on "ball and gun gamers" which are just another type of normalfag. the ones that buy nintendo stuff are the ones that usually buy cartoony indie games but doesn't usually buy cod or fifa
>>747597995This industry needs to crash and burn already. Imagine how many parasites and dead weight there is in game studio for game to cost this much and take so long to develop.To add insult to injury game devs don't even have to have any deep knowledge of the hardware like back in the day, and the tools used to make games are more powerful and easier to use than ever.
>>747640406why it is ALWAYS them?
>>747598073>You will never get WolverineThank you God!
>>747597995Japanese, Chinese and Korean gacha game makers spend less on mobile games with hot women and they still make a lot of money every year.
>>747621962Looks fine to me, however I just woke up from a coma after not replying to that post in 2008. Finally a playstation 3 game.
>>747634662The worst part is this is a fucking miserable sample. The size is pointless, the fact it was all clearly done in -one- location after visiting another location. This is like me walking around my hometown and asking 50 people what they think of the sex scenes in fate stay night. I'd be lucky if one of them even knew what the fuck fate was. Actually I live near Glasgow so it's more like I'd be lucky if I don't get stabbed.
>>747633864Amazing, they somehow made the enemies less engaging than the ones in the last DK game
>>747635689>It had you using L2 for left hand and R2 for right hand attacksJust like Sonic Unleashed!
>>747636814The PSN chart's been proven to be manipulated in order to sell whatever new crap is available. Actual sales rankings isn't a factor, otherwise you'd only see Fortnite, Minecraft, and Ball and Gun games on top.
>>747641560It's like their entire raison d'être is to subvert.
>>747640406That creature is who Billy Joe Bob, Pablo Del Nino and Tyresse White are dying for whenever they join the army.
>>747640406Look at the size of that schnoz…
>>747640406>Drag KingWhat the hell do they wear? Wife beater and Tap out shorts? Three piece tailored suits?
>>747636814>suicide squadNow that takes me back.
>>747643601WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS OUTFIT INCEL?TOUCH GRASS!
>>747611398That's how you know the writer is a woman. They will make everything gay.
>>747643921A ton of women love emasculating men, I guess they love when men are brought to their level.
>>747613840>PUT LOGAN IN IT AND MAKE HIM LAME AND GAYThank you Sweet Baby Inc.
X-Men is too masculineIt's Team X now, we must be better men, gender neutral men.
>>747598056>why was spiderman 2 ultra expensive?They are retarded, that's pretty much it.They are retarded and spend a lot of the development doing retarded shit which makes the cost go up.Look at how with this Wolverine game they spent precious time and money prototyping a... wrist mounted crossbow, for Wolverine? A Wolverine game where he runs around like some Assassin's Creed character in 17th Century Paris with a wrist mounted crossbow?They spent time prototyping multiple playable characters, instead of just making Wolverine feel good and having solid mechanics for him.Lo and behold the game is shallow and they didn't nail Wolverine's gameplay in the way they should. Could they have done that if they didn't waste time doing all this other irrelevant shit?
>>747621962The new MKW intermission track looks sick
>>747597995Sony's just like Apple, no incentive to change the product if retards will buy it anyway. They have their target audience in a chokehold.
