>>747601501
based

>>747601501
He'll be 70 when this comes out

>>747601501
he will switch to forzatech

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>>747601501
>Sony just set feet scanning tech back by decades
WTF IS THERE PROBLEM?
This is literally equivalent to the burning of Alexandria

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does he even want to make this game? I thought this was requested personally by the sony reptilian ceo.

I thought he was absolutely done with metal gear shit.

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>>747601501
It is time to resurrect the FOX engine.

>>747602532
>FOX engine
I assure you, no matter how much Sony is hating on Kojima right now.
Konami hates him 100000x more

>>747602295
>MGS4 was intentionally shit to mock Snake fans
>MGSV was supposed to be unfinished
>DS1 was intentionally shit to mock stupid Americans
>DS2 was intentionally shit to mock gamers
[NEW]
>He didn't want to make Phystink anyway!

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>>747601501
Here comes the feeling

>>747602295
>does he even want to make this game?
yes, the problem sony has (had) was that he wanted to keep it his game.

>>747602295
>does he even want to make this game?
The fact that he's still continuing development on Xbox says as much.
>I thought this was requested personally by the sony reptilian ceo.
It was, but I guess things change when the jewgaijin wastes billions of dollars and 9/10ths of a console generation growing lemon trees and then fucking off when none of them bear fruit. Sony/Sony's shareholders probably gave him an ultimatum to either join Sony permanently or to fuck off entirely.

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HE DINDU NUFFIN

>>747605849
Think we'll see a Sega or Nintendo arc after?

>>747601501

he probably refused to be exclusive to console and xbox had no problem with PC releases - good for kojima

>>747603294

I've figured out lately all the troons and LGBTQ freaks hate the asian games no matter what because they don't include your sick world view

>>747601501
Why does Snoy own kojimbo's own personal custom built engine?

Unreal Engine is what everyone uses now because it's easier to hire a UE dev than to train some rando how to use yours

oh no he might have to scan a d list actress now :((((

>>747601501
Ok, what's going on? Regardless what you think about it, it can't be denied that Sony has doing everything they can to ruin their own reputation in the last few months NON STOP. Seriously, it felt deliberate, month after month of non stop bad news related to Sony.

>>747601501
What was great about Decima to begin with? that being said it's likely derailed the development of Physint for a good long while now and that's what sucks.

>>747601501
>Spearheads FOX engine
>Denied by Konami
>Repurposes Guerrilla engine into something good
>Denied by Sony
Nothing burger tbqh, they are going to take whatever engine they have at MS/Xbox (and they have more than one lying around with no use) and this time they'll turn it into something amazing; whoever is in Kojima's studio is a fucking wizard.

My guess is they repurposing the Crackdown 3 engine or something like that.

>>747601501
Sony also took away the mocap technology too

Kojimbo has to start over from scratch lol

Given his bum ass studio were missing deadlines left and right it's most likely this game won't come out for another 6 years

>>747602719
Nah, but they aren't releasing anything under their control unless dirt cheap costs for them. FOX engine should have been buried by Konami in their tism rage last decade

>>747603294
>MGSV was supposed to be unfinished
Better have a quote foor this claim

>>747606881
Crackdown 3 ran on UE4.

MS will just tell him to use UE5 like everyone else.

>>747606235
And notice how almost everyone that uses UE suffers after it; it's a cursed engine. The handful that after UE becoming a thing decided to return to in house engines are the ones winning big time.

>>747607183
>Crackdown 3 ran on UE4.
I was under the impression they, at some point, stated it used other engine.

>>747607226
>The handful that after UE becoming a thing decided to return to in house engines are the ones winning big time.
Such as?

>>747602125
>THERE

>>747602532
Fox... Died?

>>747607315
Capcom with REngine. Most of the games might look like crap due artstyle used but the engine is outstanding and allowed Capcom a lot of benefits

>>747607367
>Kept it canon accurate
BRAVO KONAMI

>>747601501
After decades of kojambo i thought the retards would know by now that he needs a tard wrangler to make games.

>>747606990
>Given his bum ass studio were missing deadlines left and right it's most likely this game won't come out for another 6 years
And by then his target audience will be 45 years old. It's the Halo and Final Fantasy problem but worse. There is zero appeal to younger generations.

>>747607371
That's just cause they make good games, though.

EA uses an in-house engine and look at how they're doing. Ubisoft, too.

>>747607549
>There is zero appeal to younger generations
>Implying this is needed
adhd generation don't need to be appealed to; they only need to be given an incetive to follow like the cattle they are. And for that marketing exists, just a simple ad with the usual Kojima shilling from the media is enough

>>747607226
It's a great tool but like any tool it depends on the person who wields it and most who do are not very good. Almost every Unreal game shipping out are using the garbage defaults with mouse smoothing and 3 frames of queued up lag and all.

>>747601501
Rare Sony W

>>747607712
Explain how Death Stranding 1 and 2 missed sales expectations.

>kojima will be 70 by the time physint releases
grim

>>747607771
Big companies are retarded and have retarded sales expectations

>>747607669
>That's just cause they make good games, though.
No, it's the developers behind it. The engine is the reason the game's performance regardless the platform is being put into, and turns out Capcom always ensured having good people making their game engines.

>EA uses an in-house engine and look at how they're doing. Ubisoft, too.
Because they're shit at their job, always has been. And don't kid yourself; Ubisoft most likely has been using free version of shit like Unity.

>>747606881
>Repurposes Guerilla engine into something good
As someone who's played DS1, 2 and both Horizons, the latter take a giant heaving shit over DS2's use of the engine. Just saying.

>>747607771
They did? I bet some meeting board expected selling a bazzillion instead of 2 millions

>>747607713
>It's a great tool but like any tool it depends on the person who wields it and most who do are not very good
In theory but the real problem is they are using an engine meant for something for a different purpose. UE is a lightining engine but fuckers keep using it for games entirely in the usual way. No wonder performance is always shit with those games. Very few will be using it in a proper manner

>>747601501
Lol, get fucked Kojima.

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>>747607864
>Ubisoft most likely has been using free version of shit like Unity.
You must really enjoy embarrassing yourself.

That aside, the idea that a game engine alone is the definitive factor in determining the success or failure of a game is beyond retarded. There's no shortage of good, successful games using UE5 just as there's no shortage of failures using proprietary engines.

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Has kojima ever directed even ONE single flop in his 40 year career? The guy doing the new starcraft game directed back 4 blood and evolve, TWO big flops in a row, and everyone seems to be fine with him being in charge of another AAA game. But kojima going over budget means he should be told to fuck off despite having a spotless record? How is it that someone with a perfect resume is seen as unreliable but people who have had nothing but failures are trustworthy?

>>747607857
>retarded expectations
Spend retarded amounts of money on one production and that'll happen.

>>747608035
Yes. One of the reasons Sony walked away is because DS1 and 2 both fell short of expectations.

>>747608161
>confirms Ubisoft is shit at their job
>also brings info about them using outdated stuff
No wonder those AssCreed games were disasters

>the idea that a game engine alone is the definitive factor in determining the success or failure of a game is beyond retarded
That's only your assumption.

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He hasn't released a good game ever since Metal Gear Solid 3. Why bother?

>>747608257
>That's only your assumption.
That's all you've given me to go on, since you haven't said anything else worth a damn.

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>still have access to Decima via DS2
>fork it, shave off serial numbers and Sony SDK dependencies (visual studio plugins)
>bam new engine
>only way to tell is to go through binaries with a hex editor
it worked for nether realm, i don't see why it wouldn't work here

>>747608152
You dont have to use lumen in UE. You can still make baked lights. But good luck convincing a big studio to do so because time is money.

>>747608256
>Spend retarded amounts of money on one production and that'll happen.
And then there's people like SE or SEGA expecting games with normal to small budgets selling over a million

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>>747602719
>>747607030
You wanna know what would really spite Kojima?
MGS6 by Konami, a Sony exclusive

>>747608335
>That's all you've given me to go on
Again; only your assumption as you have stated. Stick to the claim itself instead moving forward on your own, ok?

>>747608435
1M is a very reasonable expectation for an 8-figure budget production.

>>747608256
>Spend retarded amounts of money on one production
But they didn't, it cost much less than the average sony concordian adventure even.
All of the memes about kojima spending gorillions per game is just konami being salty that he spent a couple dollars with his cebrity fetish.

>>747608472
Survive and Delta proved that it's a moot point; audiences don't acknowledge MGS without Kojima and most of the metal gear audience see the series as closed. They're free to wasted time and money into it but... not going to last more than 2 weeks in the collective's mind and the money gained will be minimal to what it could've been

>>747601501
I see a lot of things like Kojima is going overbudget and others pointing out that Sony is cutting off with Kojima but not with their overbudget live service slop.

Both are not mutually exclusive and can be true. Kojima likes to waste money with Hollywood shit and Sony fucked up with live service.

>>747608617
>But they didn't, it cost much less than the average sony concordian adventure even.
I assume you have some actual evidence to substantiate that claim?

>>747608654
Survive was just a quick cash grab to try and break even from the money hole that was MGSV.

Delta was actually good, but autists like Yongyea seethed that Kojima's name was removed

>>747608719
This guy

https://x.com/superhys/status/2098098655613817142

I'm 99% sure that even kojima himself said that both DS made a profit.

>>747605987
Anon, everyone here hates Bugmen because they're little better than animals.

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>>747608558
>8 figure
Try less

>>747608617
>NOOOOOOO! Don't spend too much trying to be friend of Jack Bauer! You're going to sink us
>Fire the guy
>Game releases
>Massive success without a hitch
>Recover all the budget in the release weekend
>All profits from month 1 and beyond
>You still have dlc residuals from the ones that fall for it
>Also all the cash from ports in the future
>Can easily make bigger bank with less expenses for the long term
>But turns out you very publicly fired the guy, caused mass attention to yourself in a less than favorable manner and basically torched the game division in your company
>So now you can't reap the benefits
>tfw
It's so fucking hilarious; MGS6 could already been a thing, Konami could have re-released MGSV extended cut with huge success, Kojima tard wrangled a bit after it and lots of new beloved konami IPs having proper releases but nope, just cope and outsourcings

>>747608801
>Delta was actually good
For the low bar that was a Konami game, Kojimaless Metal Gear and Unreal Engine slop, sure

>>747609151
Konami needed so little to keep generating infinite profit from kojima, just one single tard wrangler so he doesn't come to the studio one day and stops production until he scanned the feet of every celebrity in a 1000km radius.

>>747601501
A hack denied his budget...

>>747602295
I thought his entire want is to make movies, why is he even making games? His games aren't really games anyway not for the last 10 years arguably a lot longer than that.

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>>747608954
For the sake of argument, lets take this post at face value. Sure, the DS games weren't $400M money pits like Concord, but they weren't massive successes either. The very same post points out they likely had narrow profit margins, and that's over lifetime sales on multiple platforms.

There's more to business and finance than getting the line to go up and the number to be green. Its things like how long it takes you to get there and just how much greener did the number get. A 38% profit margin (best case scenario presented by the post) on a 7yr+ investment is NOT a success.

>>747609538
>Konami needed so little to keep generating infinite profit from kojima
If you didn't learn from the 2015 fiasco it's on you; one should not expect anything remotely logical from money mercs like investments companies like Konami. Extremely shortsighted. I will always defend them for their gyms anyway

He just needs to stop hiring hollywood celebs and stop being an attention whore on the internet
Just make the game nigga

>>747605914
Mario stealthing around koopa soldiers with cinematic camerawork and conspiracy theories
my body is ready

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>>747601501
i dare him to use it

>>747605849
>take too long
The average dev time nowadays is like 7 years. His games come out on average much faster than that.

>>747609896
>DS1 - 2019
>DS2 - 2025
Not really.

>>747609660
>They made some money, not all of the money
This is exactly the reason why bean counters sunk entire companies.
And on the same line about kojima, it's why you ALWAYS have the art faggots with a wrangler.

>>747609660
>but they weren't massive successes either.
Death Stranding 1 sold over 20 million copies, partly from COVID boost, and partly from straight up multi-platform excess where it probably outsold the PS5 versions on Xbox and PC. Though that's also helped by being cross-gen and PS4.
Death Stranding 2 sold 2 million copies but apparently made its budget back.

>>747609857
>microjeet fired the ENTIRE idtech team, some of whom had been working on it for decades
its dead. they killed it. they will kill again.

>>747609660
>There's more to business and finance than getting the line to go up and the number to be green.
This is where being exclusive matters; it was used as a draw for people to see PS5 worth buying. So in that context only a retard would complain the game in question not selling 20 millions in a week; it was merely a stepping stone and investment. Now if DS1 was successful in moving PS5 units around the time I can't say for sure with certainty but I can claim it played a strong role for that so I'd say the game was successful. If it meets high expectations is an extra (now imagine how hard Nintendo has been winning when Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold 50 million units; that one moved consoles AND sold a fuckton)

>>747601501
for the second time

>>747609785
I would not be surprised that he indeed went overbudget with all the Hollywood stuff.

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>La Creatividad Engine

>>747609857
they laid off everyone that made it

>>747610024
>Death Stranding 1 sold over 20 million copies
Who's the retard that dares to imply 20 million copies isn't a massive success outside dumb suits?

>>747610076
The actors don't cost him anything, some of them even did it for free, the rest just come and have their faces scanned for 15 minutes and then they're not needed for anything else.

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>>747609998
>This is exactly the reason why bean counters sunk entire companies.
Lets put it this way. Right now, you can buy a 10yr bond at a rate of like 5%. In 10 years, that's a GUARANTEED 62% profit.

Explain to the bean counter why he should spend that money making Death Stranding 3 or Physint or whatever the fuck and to just HOPE he makes 62% profit in 10 years.

>>747610024
>Death Stranding 1 sold over 20 million copies.
20 million players, not copies. It was on Gamepass and other similar stuff.

>>747610079
>Kojima joins Xbox
>His team takes a hold of the outdated piece of shit Bethesda has been using for their low quality slop
>japanese tech wizards update it and becomes a powerhouse engine
I... think this may be it

>>747607713
it's a shit tool
>lumen
>nanite is worthless for anything but rocks
>shader permutations
the only positive thing to be said about it is that the config files expose a lot of internals in shipped games so you can remove retarded post processing effects and such.

>>747610252
I hate Google so much. Estimates for 5 million sales in less than two years, though, and its been a while so I do think 7-10 mil isn't a bad estimate at least. It still means PS5 exclusives sell like dogshit and DS2 was very "been there done that" for people on PC to bother returning.

>>747602532
>Hayakawa-sama... prease... I needu disu... I needu Foxu Engine...
>AaAaAaAaH... Kojima-chan... You mustu postu embarassing X postu claiming your submission to Konami and how wong you were in reaving Konami...
>UuUuUh... Hayakawa-sensei... I wirra do dis...
(Verification Not Required)

>>747610243
Turns out you need games that sell and are decent to lure players into your ecosystem where you have much better margins and control the market.
And if you keep going for the omega maximum profitability on paper, you will keep getting concord.
Hope that helps.

>>747608801
Curious how Survive is the only non-Kojima MGS game that gets shit on like this. Almost as if critics never played it and are just Kojima cultists assblasted over him getting fired.

>>747601501
How far in development was this game? I thought he hadn't even started on it really until OD was done but it's somehow already over budget enough to justify cancelling?

>>747610601
>And if you keep going for the omega maximum profitability on paper, you will keep getting concord.
No, I will get money because if I want 'maximum profitability' at minimum risk I will just buy bonds and shit. Fuck yo video games.

Right now you have to talk the bean counter into entertaining the notion of making a game at ALL. (You) are the one standing on the ledge trying to talk him into jumping, cause 'it'll be cool, bro'.

>>747602532
Microsoft is giving him the keys for idech.

>>747601501
Reminds me of Devil's Third development hell.

>>747610779
Paying actors to spend time playing make believe as your friend isn't cheap.

>>747610680
it's because it's a shitty survival game. Portable Ops and the Acid games get shit on too.

No matter what happens to Kojimbles and his game, we can all agree that caramel is spinning in his grave.

>>747611137
could you post your time played on steam real quick?

>>747611220
i haven't read that name in a long time

>>747610881
Anon, loss leaders aren't some obtuse eldritch spell, and it works so well that as the name imply you can do even as a loss.
There's more in economics than just raw sales.
I can make an incredibly pretty profit sheet if i just fire literally every employee and sell every asset, but would that be a good move?

>>747611021
It wouldn't surprise me if that was the largest expenditure of Death Stranding 1 and 2 and this game, the use of Hollywood actors.
It can't be the gameplay but there isn't any.

>>747611415
Ah yes, $100M+ loss leaders. Brilliant.

Stick to serving hotdogs at Costco, anon. Its a good company.

>>747601501
A hack denied the budget he needs to hire his favorite TV celebrity to hang out with for a few months

>>747606881
I'd figure that if Microsoft recommends UE5 to him, his studio will contact Epic for more hands-on development with the engine's code, the same way CDPR is doing rn.

>>747601501
Good, he shouldn't have been tricked by the promise of making Netflix shit

>>747610392
Doesn't help DS2 doesn't change at big scale from the first one.

>>747602719
What the fuck?!

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>>747601501
Kojima needs anthro chars

>>747609656
He wants to make cinematic games. He has never even attempted to make a film.

>>747609857
Quake 2 machinima was dope

>>747601501
What the hell is Physint even supposed to be about?

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>>747601501
"Kojima-san. We heard you needed an engine, and we got you covered."

>>747614446
I think he would like to make a movie but he's been shoehorned into his niche of as you say 'cinematic games' and more than likely when he's gone to appeal for a budget to make a movie he'll have been told
>"look Kojima you're Japanese and you don't speak English, it's going to be very difficult to convince Jewish Producers to invest in your movie and because you're a West-a-boo you for some reason won't ask your own Japs for money to make a movie so why don't you stick to what you're good at with your electronic vidya and make that into a movie instead yes? Yes.

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>>747613302
>he doesn't know
yes anon, Konami just unceremoniously fired him, stripped his name off any Metal Gear project, and Kojima had to cry on the internet about the burden of an artists for the lulz and Kojima actually has lunch in the Konami office every thursday

>>747608195
death stranding 2 was a flop.

>>747610043
That's why he could use it you dufus.
>Hay folmer emproyee of irdee U can make same engin 4 me now 4 money. Cons: Weaboo shit.

>>747614542
Physical Intelligence

The speed California turned against Kojima makes your head spin. He must've really pissed somebody important off.

>>747614937
Maybe silliness is not the answer.
>>747615468
I don't believe you.

>>747601501
The funny thing is that kojima was involved in the creation of the decima engine

>>747610345
>outdated
Nigger are you stupid?
Its like thinking UE5 is outdated because UE1 came out 30 years ago

>>747606047
decima is the horizon engine

Kojima should make it in idtech3

>>747615892
read up on how the engine was created

>>747615603
I doubt that. Decima was Killzone Shadow Fall. And it kind of sucks. Killzone 2 looks better than it.
>>747615908
>Quake 3
Yuck.

>>747615801
>Creation Engine isn't outdated
Lad they can't even use doors in the engine without a loading screen. How many loading screens between a player being on the ground in Starfield to getting into Space then to another planet?
How many?

>>747615969
it was made for killzone, anything else?

>>747615468
>He must've really pissed somebody important off.
yeah he pissed off hermen hulst when he wouldn't give him his company.

>>747616304
>>747615468
idk it makes plenty of sense why they would break off ties.

>>747611506
Funny you say that, costco loses 50 million on hotdogs alone.
And somehow they keep doing it and making billions in profit with margins so tiny that you have /v/ anons claiming it's a loli
Must be black magics i guess.
But go on anon, keep trying to hit it big, after all, 90% of all studios quit before hitting it big.

>>747615468
He is simply collateral damage from the Concord, Bungie, Last of us online, and all the other the cancelled live service disasters. All those mega blunders scared the shit out of Sony.

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>>747601501
They took the game engine?
Makes sense, but that's fucking hilarious, didn't cross my mind.

>>747602295
>does he even want to make this game? I thought this was requested personally by the sony reptilian ceo.
He got an intense fever and thought he was gonna die without making the game fans want him to make, so after he recovered he became /ourguy/ again.

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>kojimbo needs to shit out a game to fund his next vanity project
Finally. Metal gear rising 2

>>747610881
>if I want 'maximum profitability' at minimum risk I will just buy bonds and shit. Fuck yo video games.
that's literally the state of big vidya investment, and yet we still get massive overly shiny gambles from everybody who even remotely counts as a publisher
why? because investment is indeed gambling, and the biggest investors are people with more money than sense, swindling them is a viable enough financial plan to keep afloat
that's the case with game companies like squeenix, did you pay attention to how many live service multiplayer fomo projects they have put out and promptly put into the grave for the last 15 years? and when you have daddy sony / microsoft's money to burn, you don't fucking care, god knows just how in the red xbox was for its entire lifetime

the point is that even though everybody who can count knows that math on big expensive creative projects (kojimbo's or otherwise) doesn't exactly work out, they will still keep getting made in hopes that investors will make it big THIS TIME FOR SURE and get gorillion percent return on investment
it's all one big casino on a way bigger scale

>>747616774
It seems it didn't cross the mind of Kojima or Xbox either as they've been completely blindsided by this.

>>747607030
FoxEngine WAS buried. It's not been used since 2020.

>>747617286
you just wait till Master Coll Vol 3 comes out. Konami is gonna turn it around.

Kojima Productions partnered with Microsoft. What is the worst case scenario?
1. Use Unreal Engine 5 like everybody else.
2. Gather the skeleton of Id to repurpose Id Tech so it can be used for PHYSINT.
3. Todd Howard-Zenimax-Bethesda convinces Kojima Productions to use Creation Engine 3.

Kojima is the ultimate idea guy. He shouldn't be leading anything, but he can be a valuable contributor.

>>747617451
They already are using UE5 for OD.
Whether or not this is a case where they do a few years of engine tech like they did with Decima or if they just learn the basics of one of the engines and go from there is something only they know.

kjp is already using ue5 for od and the middleware used for ds2 (3lateral/metahuman) is also owned by unreal/used in ue5.

>>747617162
>>747617451
There's already leaks that Physint will use a modified version of UE5. Seeing that Kojima has industry connections, it wouldn't surprise that Timmy might even help him

>>747617451
>Creation engine
Nobody but todd would touch that shit

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>>747617451
I'm very curious to see how these games turn out with UE5. Considering Kojima Productions extremely high standards, I'm wondering if they end up with the same criticisms as all the other UE5 slop.

Imagine if the problem were the devs and not the engine all along? Kojima's devs can finally debunk this.

>>747617451
>What is the worst case scenario?
Xbox drops him once they realize the costs are intractable, and Kojima can never get backing for triple AAA games again.

>>747614921
No, Konami did not fire Kojima. They literally do not fire anyone in Japan. What they did was way worse. They basically put him in a cuck chair and banned him from working on the Phantom Pain for months. They waited for his contract to run out.

>>747601501
Why doesnt he just use the FOX engine?

>>747617736
Konami holds it and it's also been mothballed.
But you knew that already and are just being a little faggot and I'm being a big faggot for responding.

>>747609732
>>747609151
Anon, Kojima was not the Atlas holding up the whole company on his autism. It's literally as simple as Konami, an entertainment company, pivoting away from videogames in general. To focus on what really matters: pachinko and other quintessentially japanese yakuza fronts. It's just corona-chan hit some time later and the plan didn't work out. Now Konami is back attempting to diversify their efforts with way less commitment to the whole "video game development" business. They are lending out their IPs to anybody who can ask nicely enough, after all.

>>747617656
>Imagine if the problem were the devs and not the engine all along? Kojima's devs can finally debunk this.
Embark Studios games already beat him to this, but those were former DICE employees that still have Swedish programming autism built in them

>>747601501
you don't hate sony enough

>>747617671
Xbox kept pumping money into 343/Halo studios and they keep fucking up their once major IP. Kojima will be fine.

>>747617852
>former DICE employees
They can wrangle the frostbite engine, so UE is just a baby

>>747618007
I don't think that frostbite is as bad as a beast as people have been led to believe considering the source of majority of the complaints are from bioware devs who have always been a bit lacking technically since ME1.

>>747610345
>implying oldass jury-rigged engine is an issue and not a feature
>japanese tech wizards
as the youths nowaday say: "what is bro cooking?"

>>747618149
It is every bit as bad as people are led to believe
If you step outside of what it was made for

>>747618214
according to who?

no one actually knows what happened between Konami and Kojima

>>747618285
Me, john people.

>>747617852
>Embark Studios games already beat him to this
Embark stripped out UE5's nanite and raytracing among other capabilities in the case of Arc Raiders if memory serves.
They may as well have used UE4.

>>747601501
Please be UE5 slop. Please be UE5 slop. Please be UE5 slop. Please be UE5 slop. Please be UE5 slop.

FromSoftware
Kojima Productions
it could get so real so fast

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>kojimbo moves to unreal 5

>>747609970
Not really a fair example considering what happened in those years.

why is Kojimbo so difficult to work with?

>>747617451
UE5 is the worst case. Best case is a new in-house engine. Most probable case is idTech

he's already on ue5 with od lol

>>747619163
He's a genuine auteur autist and they are historically difficult to bring to heel which is very counter to todays corporate environment.
By all accounts he is fine to work with and under as part of his studio but he doesn't play ball with boards.

kojimbo and his buddy hidekisan moving to xbox is like the funniest thing i can imagine

>>747619391
i honestly dont get this, it seems like hes easy to placate. give him a work debit card that lets him go eat random meals at restaurants, spend a bit of quid making sure he can hang out with a few d-lister actors and a few a/b listers for a day or two and just shove him into the office periodically.

>>747619437
Then he'll move to Tencent and then there'll be no place left that'll accept him

>>747619513
>tencent being actually apart of the chinese cartel actually work kojimbo to the bone, holding his entire family (figurine collection and body scans of joost) hostage
>we get a glorious 15 years or so of hidekalle releasing a good game every 2 years as he appears to wither away before our eyes
worth it

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Deserved for shafting David.
Now you have the curse of everyone doing it to you. Konami, Sony, etc
Get fucked

>>747619626
I feel sorry for David, he wanted to team up with Kojima and suggest a few plots that might fit in the Bigboss and Solid Snake timeline, willing to take a paycut to hire back original voice actors.
And all Kojima can think about was replacing him with a celebrity since only a celeb can play his creations

>>747619626
one of the funniest things kojima did. watching this dude flounder trying to get the role back because its the only notable thing hes ever done, kek

>>747601501
>source: I made it up

>>747601501
Kojima productions literally bought Decima, how can they just take it away

>>747610942
You mean the same idtech that had all its engineers fired just a couple months ago?

>>747622019
They just bought a license.

>>747607226
I think NTE looks and plays great

>>747619971
I mean, he did.

Konami has released a bunch of MGS content and Hayter has been involved in a lot of the promotional work. Nobody even remembers any of Keifer's lines from V, he's that boring and badly-written.

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>>747602295
>I thought he was absolutely done with metal gear shit.
Remember Masahiro Sakurai? how he made super smash bros for 40 years and said to nintendo that he gets to make his own game before he goes back to slaving away making mario gang bang star fox in 2.5D?

That is what death stranding is to kojima, its his kirby air riders, norman reedus is kojima's kirby.

Kojima is going to make the most kino open world deus ex metal gear solid game in a city you have ever fucking seen you niggers are not ready for the magnum opus of this schizo

hate snoys

>>747610240
1) That is bullshit. The actor's managers won't let them do that shit for free like some VAs do for voice work. They want to be paid and be paid handsomely for their work because they see it as labor.
2) they did full body scanning and a bunch of mocap shit with it. That is not a 15 minute process that is days upon days sometimes a full week or 2. that costs a shitton of money.

Kojimaboos confirmed for not knowing how the industry or having an actual job works.

>>747615337
How the ever-loving fuck can he use an engine where he doesn't know the tools, Microsoft doesn't care to know and the rest of the people at id aren't being taught to use that but UE5 instead? think retard. idtech is dead. No other mainstream game will use it barring CoD games and their branch of the engine and that is genuinely something that may require years of work to even get it to support the type of shit Kojima wants since they just focus on how to use it as an FPS game engine rather than one for a stealth literal movie game.

>>747601501
how many companies will he bankrupt before he dies?

>>747617959
halo is a core Microsoft franchise. Even though it is THE RAPED, to stop making Gaylo games is basically an admission that Xbox has no reason to exist. Kojima's new movie games aren't even first party, he's just partnering with them to get the funding he needs to make it. As soon as he slips, which considering his track record is very likely, they'll drop him like a rock.

>>747617959
I thought they downsized some people from Halo studios recently?

>>747622330
Lmao holy shit, people didn't stop shitting on Konami when they did the same to kojima

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>>747605914
Timmy will make it EGS exclusive
I can see it

>>747601501
xbox has a better engine with forzatech and flighttech

>>747623724
My old shitbox car from 2013 has a better engine.

>>747601501
Someone should ask how the access is denied. May be that they restricted access to the up to date stuff and tech support from the engine devs, while they can still use the engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHCqxLtwy5g

this is on UE5, Kojima will just port Physint to this

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>>747623840
right lol. runs at 200 fps btw

>>747623993
nta, but now that you bring that up i wonder why kojima didnt use that for OD alongside physint

>>747608195
Generally seems to be a suicidal degree of risk aversion like with WoW hiring hamburger helper. If you have any AAA experience at all your odds of getting more AAA work are 100:1 vs anybody without it. A foot in the door and some firm anal tongue work is a career in the games industry.

>>747609656
Because he knows he's a hack that isn't cut out for Hollywood. Any movie he makes would get ripped to shreds because he'd have to cater to an audience with actual standards for storytelling.

He'd rather just spend his days larping with celebs via his games.

>>747623993
Nice car, has more personality and looks far better than all this shithole cars from 2020 onwards. I fucking hate all these box shape SUV cars that are basically clones of each other.

>>747602125
he needs to borrow whatever david cage used for ellen page's nipples (rip)

>>747605849
I sometimes wonder what Hideo games would be like if a mysterious illness cured him of his obsession with hiring celebrities just so he can hang out with them at the studio and take them out for dinner. The burn rate on his budget for all his recent games would probably be cut by half at least.

>>747617451
Kojima talked too long and goes over budget so Microsoft gives him the boot too

>>747602295
IIRC he has said, on video, that he wanted to make this MGS-style game because he realized he's old and that he will die at some point and that he wanted to give his fans a game like MGS because they've been asking for one. So yeah he does want to do it.

I doubt it's gonna be as legendary as MGS, but at least he does want to work on it for real and won't destroy it on purpose like he did with mgs just because he was tired of it.

>>747624213
actually hollywood is a joke now so he'd probably fare better than the F rank failures making bum ass content for netflix

>>747624465
I doubt it cost near as much as you think, besides Keifer Sutherland. Kojima needs an editor who can stop him from self sabotaging projects though. DS teasers were fucking amazing but somebody else has to tie it together or Kojima will drive every aspect of the project off a cliff gameplay content plot characters profit everything. He can't be given the reigns to everything.

>>747606881
If Microsoft were actually intelligent they'd give him idtech

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>>747605849
>>747608285
It's insane how hard snoyggers have been seething and slandering him since the news dropped.

>>747605252
There's been a lot of turnover in the exec layer of Sony and some old staples have left, so the same people who backed him then aren't necessary there to back him now.

>>747614446
I believe the plan was to spin out multimedia properties that tied into his games. I've not heard anything about it but there was a lot of talk about how the games were basically the starting point for larger multi format franchises.

>look at decima engine usage
>death stranding 2 was the last game made on with a timegap going to 2022 when horizon used it
engine's dead, jim

>>747617656
>Imagine if the problem were the devs and not the engine all along? Kojima's devs can finally debunk this.
It always has been. A toolset is only as good as the craftsmen using it, and if your craftsmen don't even try or are hit with nightmare deadlines and random ass jeet or college hires that have no idea what they're doing, everything goes to shit. Reality is UE will only get worse on the principle of an industry braindrain of the people with talent gradually leaving and no one of capability filling their shoes.

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>>747608801
>Kojima's name was removed

>>747602295
He doesn't want to make games in general but its the only way to facilitate his lifestyle

>>747607771
DS2 was a flop

>>747601501
Basically any work they've done on this will have to be redone from scratch aside from some assets. I doubt this game ever actually comes out

>>747626431
considering kojimbles was estimating 5-6 years of development last year hot off the heels of DS2's release, this thing at best was still in pre-production and planning before the proper full development anyway

>>747626431
Kojima's been working on that tranny horror game. The only work that had been done on Physint was the character models we saw at the reveal.

I hope Kojima gets cyberleek'd.

>>747626349
and also one of the most woke infested videogames ive ever played

>>747626431
its a simple port job

>>747626431
>from scratch
they put whatever they have into ue and use the same middleware they already used in ds1 and 2 and od (od itself is already using ue)

>>747619505
you don't understand because you're a well adjusted human being not a soulless corporate middle manager justifying their own existence

Realistically speaking regarding regarding whether Sony could have avoided financial flops: Kojima should have done Physint first instead of artsy games like Death Stranding. Because going back in MGS direction probably would have sold better. No one was expecting a postman game nor would have anyone played it except for Kojima diehards.

>>747628087
but middle managers should get this the most. its like hideki bojimbly has written a line of code himself in a decade, or does anything but huff his own farts in a board room telling the actual coders what his vision is. its the same shit they do

The last decent game this hack has made was MGS3 which came out 22 years ago.

I don't care about his excuses and subversions and faggy cutscenes anymore. It's clear he sees himself as some hollywood action movie auteur and his main interest now is to scan american z-list celebrities and take selfies with them so he can pretend he's a movie director.
Also his signature "cinematic" cutscenes have been unbelievably cringe lately and getting worse, even for his standards.

>>747628192
DS1 and 2 are a bad joke. Should've been a "funny" demo and nothing more. Instead he watched some Walking Dead and got a mancrush on Reedus so we have to watch him look like an old lesbian carting around uber eats to an assortment of industry randos that Kojima scanned with shitty gags throughout.

>>747601501
This hasn't been confirmed anywhere. I bet he'll lose it but I would really like if he got to keep using it with a license or something

decima was never even shown on the initial poster for the game, they made a big deal about that for ds1 and 2.

>>747601501
you can literally shit out a better engine with AI in about 2 weeks

decima is nothing special

forza/fable tech is better than decima based on the simulation elements alone. kojima just got a better engine

>>747628905
Forza is the worst looking games ever made.

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>>747601501
Kojima peaked with MGS3 and has been dogshit ever since, don't know why anyone takes him that seriously

>>747602295
genuinely surprised he hasn't built his own GW and just uses it to make shitty movies to pretend he's a director
I INVENTED THE CONCEPT OF AI DIRECTING

>>747630673
That's coincidentally the last full game he made

>ZOE2 was basically 2 hours long
>MGS4 was panned for having not enough gameplay and too many cutscenes
>MGS5 had incredible amounts of cut content and was unfinished
>Death Stranding 1 was a walking sim where you walk through nothing
>Death Stranding 2 was more of the same

MGS3 was the last time that I felt like I got a full game out of him and was satisfied with what I played.

>>747613619
notices bulge owo

>>747630747
Considering how obsessed he is with being a b-movie director and chasing western celebrities I'm guessing that when he fully explores and realizes what can be done with AI as of late he'll just disappear into his goon cave and never come out.

>>747630943
its pretty odd he hasnt already. actually, when was the last statement or appearance even made by him?

on the side note of a.i. sloppa, like last year i was wondering why nobody has made a local 4chan yet, where you get to be your own janny and mod. imagine being able to just click a post and say "no more of this content", and just make every poster talk about the stuff you want

>>747630881
Death Stranding was such a joke I didn't even touch 2. If death stranding had no story and cutscenes it would unironically have been a better game.

Kicked out of 109 companies but he isn't the problem, trust me /v/

How many games has Kojima made yet his studio still can't bankroll his own games.

>>747602719
Why do people think Konami hates him. He burned most of the money he generated. It isn't even known whether they fired him or if it was a mutual termination.
Only the fanboys got pissed really hard at Konami that they decided to step out of the gaming industry for a while.

>>747606629
It's an engine that created multiple great looking games with good performance and it isn't UE5.

>>747606881
You realize that everyone at MS seemingly moves over to UE. Bethesda abandoned Creation
they just layed off most of the id tech engine devs
the Halo remake also runs on UE5
Blizzard still makes its own engines, but they never chased high graphics fidelity.
Their only serious big boy engine right now is Forza Tech
>reporpusing Crackdown 3 engine
lmao

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I hope it's good, I have no interest in OD

>>747630943
iirc he already did some shit with AI but his fans shat on him so much he had to delete it

>>747601501
>Konami + Sony
The Kojima
>Sony
Big Kojima
>Microsoft
Punished Kojima

I give it a year before indian cunt realized Kojima is a money pit and there's a good reason both of his former employers set him loose

>>747624606
>MGS-styled game
Better be like a completed version of mgs5 gameplay wise over the other ones
>>747633139
>Bethesda abandoned creation
Source?
And why the fuck would they do that

Will he need to migrate whatever his devs already did to a new engine? That's gonna be catastrophic for the project.

>>747636464
Worse things have happened in game development

>>747636587
Sure, but even so, it's gonna be detrimental to deadlines, budgets, and such

>>747601501
The teaser for DS1 was made in UE4, OD is made in UE5. Obviously, Decima was a temporary solution, and the dev team checked the alternatives

does MS have something comparable? nothing really comes to mind.

>>747601501
He made ONE good guy in his entire life time
And still normoids somehow praise him
90% of the budget goes to fucking marketing + actors and feet scans
And of course epic house engines instead of unreal/unity which made actual fucking goties ppl play to this day.

>>747628627
The case of OD is interesting; I guess even before the breakup with Sony, they set some strict rules, like you can't use it for exclusive games on other platforms

>>747607367
holy shit

>>747605849
When you actually view this within context it makes it even more hilarious.

I don't doubt what Konami said was true, but Sony made their process of reviewing development milestones stricter after Concord shat the bed. He was probably going overbudget and taking too long with DS1 and DS2 all throughout the past decade but it was Concord that broke the camel's back and got him fired when he realized he couldn't do that anymore.

>>747635660
look it up yourself, devs were complaining because its difficult to work with, fans were complaining because its le old
Oblivion Remaster was made with UE

>>747605914
Sega is broke and Nintendo is fucking stingy

>>747638357
A broke Sega's final bet, Kojima's AAAA supergame....

>>747638313
You guys just recirculate like 3 rumors, every time adding new details for them

>>747605849
>Konami fired Kojima and went full into Pachislot machines only stopping when the entire world went to shit with Covid
>Sony fired Kojima because they are going full into live service bullshit wasting money on keeping Marathon alive and rebooting Fairgames
The only pattern im seeing is Kojima being terrible at picking his publishers.

>>747638576
Straight from the mouth of Jason Schreier actually

>>747625931
>since the news dropped
'Kojima is a hack' was something that was chanted on /v/ since DS1

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>>747638821
Opinion tossed straight into the garbage

>>747638560
The last heist should be SWF-level scam

>>747623993
Is this a game? I want to play it. Where can i play it?

>>747616040
Cause they stimulate the physics of every object unlike most engines where most objects are static props
>>747638332
Oblivion remastered was not really made by Bethesda, it was largely outsourced
And it's obviously a mistake since the remaster isn't moddable at all
>difficult to work with
I thought the whole point was that the creation engine was incredibly easy to work with especially for Bethesda games like writing or coding quests

>>747638859
Didnt the main artist for this game tag him on a picture of buff male dwarves saying something like "Perhaps this is more to your taste"?

>>747638859
>he has some retarded opinion about anime girls so he's wrong about everything!
Broken clocks, nigger.

>>747639980
I will never take water from a man previously caught poisoning a well.