>>747606965no. you should still try the NES version to see what it's like when you unlock it in that game.
>>747606965yes. zero mission is completely different game, so it isn't a replacement. is up to your tastes if you like nes games ect. i personally dislike zm and play the nes one every now and then.
>>747607280it's what the original game wanted to be. I owned this game on gba and holy shit the NES game was just painful to play.
>>747606965yeah it's a lot more fun
>>747607361>it's what the original game wanted to be.nope, not even close. ZM is a better game but has a different direction than M1. In fact, metroid 1 could be classified as the actual only non-linear game in the series despite its constrained design. The fact that ZM's new added segment was a stealth mission says a lot about the thought process behind 2D metroid at the time
>>747606965Not unless you're into NES games in general. If you just wanna feel like you're playing the series chronologically then ZM is fine.
>>747607504it was so long ago I can't speak to that at all. I will say that for me the GBA metroid games are some of the best I ever played. No guides, no internet, beat that shit by ball bombing every single fucking tile in the game until I found the next path. Fusion is one of the best games on the platform.
>>747607851fusion is fucking terrible, it's a glorified hallway that never lets you explore. Beating that game without a guide is as much of an acheivement as beating a kirby game without one (actually even amazing mirror has more proper exploration)
>>747606965zero mission includes the OG as a reward for beating the gameit's two games in one
>>747606965Novelty. The original Metroid is a good game, even if it hasn't aged well. You won't have a bad time. But yes, Zero Mission is just a straight up better version of it.
Samus fashion thread? I might have enough outfits to keep it going for a while.
>>747606965You should play both of them because they're both good.
Don't even remember saving this one.
>>747607997You got filtered by Yakuza I take it
>>747608221ZM is arguably a better game but it doesn't resemble the OG Metroid in the slightest. If nintendo came out today and said that it actually wasn't based off of the original, nobody would question that.
>>747607997Fusion had a lot of cool powers and upgrades and enemies and jungle areas. Maybe you're just gay?
>>747606965the original is less gay and cartoonish
>>747606965The original: Total isolated free roaming. If you can get over the hallways being hard to navigate, it's actually pretty good.Zero Mission: Gameplay, visuals, music and almost everything else has been updated. But the world is more linear. So it lacks the free exploration.If you really can't get over the similar looking hallways though, just play Metroid II on GB. Which keeps the isolation feel and lack of a map, but it's easier to navigate. And it's still one of the best Metroid games.
Play Metroid Planets or the SNES port romhack if you want to try Metroid 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQc6qo-L4_Y
How about Metroid 2 and its remake?
>>747608607hot garbage, but the fan remake is ok.
so is this game like those indie metroidvania games at all?
>>747608394ZM is more casualized. That's literally it.
>>747608248Our girl is always looking fabulous. >>747608394Fair assertion. I still say both are a worthwhile experience.
I beat Super Metroid, Fusion and Prime 1. Which Metroid game do I play next?
>>747608607The original on GB is still amazing. Samus Returns is in the running for the worst Metroid game and removed literally everything the original game had except the Metroids. And the Metroids are also shit because they're scripted boss battles now.
>>747608607Metroid 2 on the GB is perfectly playable.The 3DS version is barely a remake and honestly kind of a drag.AM2R is super cool.
>>747608809When was this drawn? Was it drawn at all. since it's not coming up in reverse image search.
If you played metriod with a map you didnt beat the game
>>747606965> Is there any reason to play the original over this? Not "over" it. It's either or both. They are completely different exercises. You play zero mission for fun. You play OG metroid for historical value or understanding of video games or something gay like that.
>>747608607Haven't played the remake, but the general consensus is that it's overall better except for music.I fucking loved SR388 main theme.
>>747606965If you finish Zero Mission you unlock the original game as an extra.
>>747606965Real Metroid fans reject Zero Mission
>>747609048File metadata dates back to 2008 on my HD. I've got a lot of old stuff in my folder and that ranks up there. Couldn't even guess at a source though unless you can read that signature.
>>747606965I'd say play the remakes for 1 and 2 before playing the originals later imo just play in release order, but substitute 1 and 2 with the remakes, then play the originals later.
>>747609272Thanks. Guess I came up with a similar idea independently then.
>>747609149I've played Metroid since the beginning. I've collected a lot of Metroid merch, I've speedran the games multiple times, replay them at least once a year (playing Super at least twice. It's my favorite.). I liked Zero Mission a lot and I recommend it for new players. Just wish I could've bought the Samus Returns amiibo before they sold out.
>>747609705If I'm not a true fan, then I don't know what is.
>>747608919Other M
>>747608919if you want more 2D Metroid, just finish them in release order, ZM->SR->Dread. If you want more Prime, finish the trilogy.
>>747606965
>>747609705>>747609768You're defo a bigger fan than >>747609149
I like how you can tell who went to Kraid first in Metroid 1 and who didn't solely based on their opinion of the game.
>>747609962I love how despite everyone disagreeing on everything else, almost everyone can agree that Super Metroid is peak.
>>747610560I usually stumble upon Kraid first.
>>747606965Well that one doesn't kill you through doors for starters. The only actual downsides to zero mission is the big kraid change (ends up being a better boss fight so I'll allow it) and the chozo/zero suit stuff.
>>747611228yeah
>>747611228Super metroid literally set the standard for not just the series, but the entire genre. You can tell when a game is too good as well, like Nintendo were stuck in its shadow for decades.
>>747611645Metroid II actually set the standard. Super improved upon it. You can even say Zelda 2 set the standard if you want to go back to the origins that Metroid was built upon. But when it comes to the things like sprite size, many of the key items, world design and stuff, Metroid II was the huge leap forward. Even though people want to think of it as this dated crappy game. It's actually like the Mario Bros 3/Land 2 level jump in graphics, years before Mario 3/Land 2 came out.Also, not that story matters, but Sakamoto has basically based everything around the ending of Metroid II. It's kinda crazy how obsessed he is with it when it's one of the games he didn't work on.
>>747606965NEStroid sucks at first but becomes kino with familiarity Plus it's surprisingly atmospheric and exciting for a nes game. You get swarmed in these evil ass caverns and have to fight for your life in every single hallway until the tide turns and you start destroying everything
Not really, unless you like Metroid enough to experience all of it. Super Metroid is basically a better, expanded version of NES Metroid, just treated narratively as a sequel.
>>747612059Metroid came out before Zelda 2 dumbass.
>>747606965One tiny thing that would mostly fix the original is destructible blocks having a different texture or hue.Extending playtime in 1985 was achieved using simple methods, they probably intentionally made desrtuctable blocks look as ordinary blocks.
>>747612965>Talking shit about pinball
>>747612965>Federation Force>absolutely terribleMediocre at worst. Also, I agree with >>747613051. It's a damn fine game of pinball.
>>747613051>>747613192It has problems but it's good. Couldn't really get into Fed Force
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>>747612965>Prime 2 & 3 ranked higher than 1explain
>>747613787I simply enjoyed them more
I've beaten all the Metroid games except Dread. I just can't beat Drogyga. Any tips?
>>747606965Drawing my own map as I played this was one of my favorite video game memories. Now whenever I revisit it I still have a scan of that old map for reference and can cheat and find a the missile tanks and upgrades easily.Zero Mission is a 10/10 game in its own right, but it doesn't have that aspect to it.
>>747613967i found prime 2 to be prime 1 but with less biomes, just copy pasta with the dark worldnavigating with light+dark map was more frustratingsome bosses couldve used a bit of work, especially the underwater fish boss that i could only hit randomly when it chargedprime 3 was just empty and boring, having to wait 5 seconds for every door to open was obnoxious
>>747614028That's the water one right?
>>747614567Ye
>>747614028I'm stuck on the final boss. I know the HOW, it's just building the muscle memory back up after leaving it for so long the first time.
>>747609962>Prime 2 above 1When will this meme die
>>747612965What the hell is wrong with Pinball? Also, Beyond should be sitting down there in Major Problems.
>>747615824Wait it's not in major problems?Fuck I meant to put it there
>>747615584Only troons think 1 is better than 2
>>747615824And I'm just not fond of pinball games.
>>747606965Zero Mission is much more appropriate a choice for a series newcomer, as its closer to what the 2D games became, and is overall a smoother experience. The original isn't bad, and I think people should still give it a look after having played a few of the games already, but unless you are an avid NES enjoyer, it doesn't work as well as a first introduction to the series in this day and age.
>>747615824It's not Super/Prime.
>>747606965No the original sucks ass. Metroid doesn't begin until super.
>>747607997Fusion's only saving grace is being the most challenging metroid until dread came out.
>>747616583Also the atmosphere
>>747606965Totally different games.
>>747615994Project harder, retard. 2 is unmemorable slog and I drop it every replay.
>>747607209This
>>747606965Yes, and with this installed.
>>747608361yakuza fight is aiming up and unloading missiles, there's no strategy to it>>747608404what cool power ups? They're all reused from super except diffusion missiles (filler)>>747616583you mean until prime 2 came out 2 years later
>>747606965Realistically I cant think of a reason, and I'm directly in the age group who grew up with the original NES metroid 1 to 1. I think the original has novelty, but has aged so badly that unless you grew up with it like me, and remember how to pilot around the games jank, or if you like learning tough games with lots of "cheapshots", its not worth your time. Just do Zero mission. The original isn't a bad game when compared to the NES library, but it is a bad game in the broader scope when compared games in its genre since its release. Even on the NES itself, there's far better platformers with better controls, mechanics, exploration and abilities.
>>747606965Kind of sort of. It's worth playing just to see what the original was like, but Zero Mission is just an overall outright better replacement.
>>7476086072 is great but if you're a guide addict you may hate it
>>747606965Zero Mission is an unironic demake. It’s a bloated, flashy game wearing NEStroid’s skin and a poor man’s super Metroid.
>>747606965better atmosphere, better soundtrack, better gamefeel that makes you really take in your surroundings and memorize the layout of the world, rather than relying on the map and chozo statues to tell you where to go
>>747608926Playing Samus Return you can see this is the only Metroid that sort of have a more realistic map that the rest, you can actually tell what is a building, what is a tunnel and the area outside the building, Unlike SuperMetroid were everything feels like a tunnel that sometimes is made or rock or made of metal.
If you are curious about game history and franchise origins, or are really in to retro game design, I would say give it a go, it's pretty aged though (I think people overstate this, but the fundamental statement is not wrong). If you don't enjoy slower old shit, os some of that 80s game BS aspects, you can skip it.
>>747606965no, except the ugly ass fucking soundfont of the gameboy advance ruins the sweet analog vibe of the OG. they especially ruined this vibey trackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZeGC7e9M_whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1sTdewueiY
Zero Mission's title screen sounds so sad ;_; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UJfjXyuE3Q
>>747606965Zero Mission is good but it completely destroyed the original game's sense of atmosphere
>>747617302It's true lmao
>>747620053Prime 2 remains shit and 3 wasn't even worth playing once, projecting tranny
its super comfy that all metroid games are in switch 2
>>747609272I remember when it was hard as hell to find Metroid art, how times have changed, back then Samus had green hair.
For me it's
>>747617469So it's not worth playing without a mod?
>>747619479I don't use guides unless I'm absolutely stumped. Like the waterfall in Earthbound.
>>747620574NTA but not unless you're already a big fan of Metroid and want to play it as a historical curiosity
Am I the only one who gets 75-80% through a Metroid game, then gets bored and drops the game for over a year, then restarts because I'm 'not sure where I'm at'
>>747620839That's not really centric to only metroid, it just happens sometimes. But yea i get that.
>any reason to play original metroid over zero mission?nope, next question
>>747620494respectable though I think you're too harsh on hunters, it's multiplayer was great
>>747620627I'm pretty sure an NPC flat out tells you what to do for the waterfall
>>747620494swap prime 1 with prime 2:)
>>747619716Yeah, Metroid II really had a unique map people don't give it credit for. Also the introduction to Chozo Ruins. Too bad the remake sucked most of that out. And introduced the terrible teleporters and witholding half the items until the end of the game.
>Great gameSuperFusion (Currently on first playthrough, just got Space Jump, outside of a couple moments of excessive railroading I really enjoy it)>Pretty Good1Prime>Meh2Prime Hunters>Haven't played yetZM, SR, Dread, Prime Pinball>Might playPrime 2-4 & Fed Force>Won't playOther M
>>747621015Yeah I never got to play the multiplayer. That ranking is solely based on singleplayer.>>747621078No :)
>>747621183I think one thing that limits the game is being B&W, it makes things more samey but the sections are small enough you don't get lost for long.For a OG gameboy game is quite robust, big variety of enemies, big bosses and what I like to call little unique hand crafted sections that make it memorable (I'm talking about the varia suit being in some kind of chozo sphere storage in the back of a chozo statue room, the broken chozo statue, or the sprinball boss jumping out of were the item is suppose to be), that being said there are some limitations, the music is kind of bad and you can tell they recycle certain sections of map and use them in various places, which leads to some areas having secret tunnels that go nowhere because in some other part of the game there is a equivalent room that does have a secret hiding behind a the fake wall.
>>747621528Forgot image
>>747621580Damn those names are wacky.
>>747621642Pretty standard. Just like Zelda and Kirby at the time. Take English/Japanese word and garble it a bit. Boom, fantasy name!
>>747619034No. Nothing about the prime series is memorably challenging. It culminates in prime 3 being one of the most horribly designed zero danger bullet sponge time wasting games in the history of gaming.
>>747621580>HornnoadI'm gonna assume they meant Horntoad.
>>747622289Prime 2 is the most challenging game in the series, you are incorrect. The boost guardian in particular is the biggest spike in the series.
>>747615824>What the hell is wrong with Pinball? Also, Beyond should be sitting down there in Major Problems.Well it's not a good pinball game for one, sonic spinball is better at that, that's a real failure.
>>747620929It only really happens for emulated games for me. If I buy a game I feel a need to finish it.>>747621072There's a hint but nothing straight up obvious. It's one of the Mr. Saturn's I believe
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>>747615584>When will this meme dieThe last half of prime 1 sinks it entirely, you just don't want to face reality.
>>747622754I don't think that's a fair reason to deride prime (i like echoes more btw) when super has the same issue. Both games are still excellent. But yes sanctuary fortress it the best area in the series
>>747622819>I don't think that's a fair reason to deride prime (i like echoes more btw) when super has the same issue. Both games are still excellent.Then you don't understand the problem at all, super does not have the same issues.
>>747621580More freaks.
>>747623238>MumboEEKUMBOKUM!
>>747608452>He doesn't know that you can skip a lot of the powerups in ZMSequence breaking it built into the game in a way it wasn't even in Super, they even give you special endings if you got less than 15% of the collectibles.
Is save states cheating
>>747623969Kinda but who cares
>>747621528the bit of color the super gameboy version adds helps a lot imo
>>747622894yes it does, crashed ship and miridia aren't as good as the first 3 areas
>>747612965reads like you're 12
>>747606965You should play the original first.Otherwise you won't have a clue how good zero mission is in comparison.
>>747606965If you are making a point t play native NES games. then this should be among the list of games to play, if you desire to play the "first in the story line" then play Zero Mission.
>>747606965No, even if you really wanted to play a really old version it's included in zero mission.
>>747619034Prime 2 is braindead easy. It's only difficult if you don't use your beams properly.
>>747629081The hardest thing in Prime 2 and all the prime games is reading the 3D map. And that one HUB room in Prime 2 where there's like 6 doors. Two of them were stacked on top of each other so I got lost for hours trying to figure out where the game was telling me to go.
>>747609545>bullets pointing so that they will fire backwardsI am very autistic please stop
>>747624384Maridia is fucking awesome, you fucking tool.
How to open the door?I've tried killing the enemies over and over, I've tried jumping on their frozen asses to try and go into the roof, I've shot every time with every item I have.
>>747606965It's a completely different game, so it's worth checking out both.
>>747633826You don't, that door only opens later.
>>747633826 You don't. Find another way around
>>747633869Oh. How do I get the power up?I can't remember what but I know there was a power up past it.
>>747633924It's a really unintuitive part of the game. Have you destroyed the glass?
>>747633924You're thinking of a different door, which is nearby, and will open at the same time.
>>747634259I'm looking at a map and there's no doors that are similar
>>747606965They are two different games.
>>747606965NEStroid is kino if you're autistic enough to draw your own maps on paper. Otherwise is a waste of time.
>>747606965bro they are both different games
>>747634837NEStroid has a very small map relative to all of its sequels. If you're truly autistic you can just map in your head.
>>747634837This map is literally all you need
>>747619734I don't understand why developers can be such faggots and not release music decades out. Surely there are uncompressed versions of the GBA music and even Hunters' music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-VZqkYmAbI