>Ask people what they want from Classic+>Do the opposite
>ask people what they want from Classic +>no two people will ever agree on even a majority of points>do whatever because it's an inherently unpleasable fanbase with demands you could never satisfyftfy
>>747607654Actually, I was the one who voted for a paywalled blood elf reskin to pretend Im playing as a high elf from warcraft 3.
they're doing pretty much everything I wanted them to do, thougheverbeit>make professions actually good at lower levels>flesh out classes but don't homogenize everything>focus on the world and social interactionkeep dooming though, era andy
>>747608036>people can't agree on what they want>so let's make something they'll agree they don't wantlol
>>747607654They actually did a lot of what I wanted, the only think I didn't want was the dumb elves
>ask peopleWHEN!?When did this happen? When was there any input from players? They made this entire thing in secret, didn't even confirm or announce it. And now they announce it and it's already finished.Which is very strange. WoW Classic was announced and released 2 years later, for a game that was already finished. I assumed it would be 6 months to 5 years before they released this and it's coming out next month basically.The game is already finished, it's too late for feedback.
>>747607654What's a sub fee for wow these days? I'm morally opposed to giving blizzard anymore money but it would be a shame to miss out on the hype even it just turns out to be retail slop
>>747610919$15, same as it was in 2004, except now you don't need to pay the box price for every expansion, only the latest one.
>>747608126>focus on the world and social interactionWhat news was released about this?
>>747608245>I wanted transmog and horde paladinslol
Classic+? More like Retail-
>>747607654looks decent except the spen'dorei ass $30 blue elves
>>747608126>shittier version of what turtle and ascension did for freewow thank you multi-billion dollar company please cum in my mouth some more!!! ill pay you!!!!
>>747611128You build campsites for buffs out in the world, and each party member can bring a bonus station they can put down to provide other buffs and utilities. Turtle WoW did this with tents that give you rested EXP and people loved it.
>>747612171>looks decent>horde paladins>alliance shamans>transsmog>anti-soul gas UE5 "overhaul">gayified the original vanilla cinematic>retroactively ruining WC3
>enh shamans once again get two handers taken awayAt least take them away from paladins then if you dont want bullshit rng one shotting people
>>747612309That sounds pretty cute.
>>747612309>Turtle WoW did this with tents that give you rested EXP and people loved it.Weird, judging by what you shills said nobody played turtle and it was a tranny game
>>747611864>click no transmog buttonhorde paladins and alliance shamans were going to happen I guess, not sure if it's good or bad. blue elves are a copout to fix the ugly horde race problem and extract more paypig money.
>>747612524>everyone is the same personI think Turtle had some good stuff, but was run by some pretty sketch people. Epoch felt limp and the new areas felt tacked on. Ascension was absolute fucking slop though.
>Realmless>War Mode>$30 racesWOW IT'S CLASSIC!!! BUT BETTER!!!
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>>747612781after all having zero world pvp (with sharding) and blue blood elves is what everybody wants from vanillamind boggling
>>747607654you're saying you DIDN'T want neon colored tranny elves??
Do healers still play like they did in classic? I have a mighty urge to play another heal slut after all there years.
>>747612676Turtle had a great content design team but the experience was crippled by the utterly retarded class/balance team who just overbuffed whatever they played while gutting whatever hurt their feelings. They also didn't really understand how vanilla classes worked.
>>747612781War mode is a good feature, Turtle WoW had it so you activated it and could no longer toggle PvP off in exchange for bonus EXP.
>>747612981zero world PVP? That can't be true. That would be nuts.
>>747608126Literally 0 confirmation of any of this shit btw. Blizzdrones are mentally ill
>>747607654It was me, I asked for all of it.
Retail enshittification>achievements3-4 years after launch>phasing~4 years after launch>quest helper5 years after launch>transmogrification7 years after launch>account wide 8 years after launch>Disneyfied character models10 years after launch>garishly colored "totally not high elf" blood elf oc donutsteel reskin race that rapes lore14 years after launch>ugly nu-wow UI overhaul18 years after launch>ugly mishmash of mobileslop nu-wow art assets with oldschool art assets8 to 18 years after launchWorld of Warcraft Forever enshittification>achievements0 days after launch>phasing0 days after launch>quest helper0 days after launch>transmogrification0 days after launch>account wide 0 days after launch>Disneyfied character models0 days after launch>garishly colored "totally not high elf" blood elf oc donutsteel reskin race that rapes lore0 days after launch>ugly nu-wow UI overhaul0 days after launch>ugly mishmash of mobileslop nu-wow art assets with oldschool art assets0 days after launch
The only actual genuine fuck up they did was blue elves. The rest was all very good stuff. They didn't need blue elves they had high elves and ogres waiting. The systems all look fantastic and I was completely surprised they were doing genuinely anything new with dungeons and zones.
>>747610546>ask peopleWHEN!?When did this happen?SoD.
>>747613129I do like that they didn't go the safe route (just make the talents the same as they were in TBC), I didn't play much endgame but leveling as arcane mage felt fun.
>>747613404>sharding>war mode>transmog>mtxKill yourself, nigger
>>747613345Do you just parrot everything you know from 4channel? They showed all of this in the deep dive today. We literally SAW early profession items and they were good. We know there are class changes and talent changes and they are good. What the fuck do you want to be happy? A fentanyl drip?
>>747613147Did you even play on turtle? Their retarded warmode just permanently killed world pvp and they never did anything about it.>retards turning it on only for the exp boost and avoiding pvp entirely or just not fighting back>unflagged retards abusing the way flagging works to grief warmode players into oblivion (leisurely stalk and get the first hit, become unflagged by the time they corpse run back)That shit only existed to grief yourself. The few players who care about wpvp ended up turning warmode off.
>Perfect chance to add High Elves and Ogres>Nah we better add Void Elves but they're from Angel Island and available to both factions
>>747613504it's funny how you tards act like there was any chance it wouldn't have sharding
>>747613437Performing experiments on people is not really asking. Also, the thing is, if they genuinely wanted feeback from players. Genuinely honestly. Then they would have announced this "game" a year ago.They made a "game" in secret, under no circumstance did they ask anyone anything. And it shows.And because they asked no one, they can't go back, they aren't gonna remove the horrible new race they spent a hour two hours in the designing room making. All that work for nothing?
>>747613569Ganking is the entire point of world pvp. From the sounds of it, war mode on forever will be its own separate shard.
>>747613634>genuinely>genuinely>honestlyAre you taking the piss? You sound like a god damn retard. Take your post and *just literally genuinely honestly* go through and delete all those retard words.
>>747613504If you can't understand why these things exist then your teeth should be knocked out, you should be lobotomized, and you should become a blowjob slave because you have wasted your brain so much you can no longer critically think.
>>747613724>frog image>post contains nothing of valuehmm.
>>747613659What?
>>7476105461. Tracking SoD and 2019 Classic Feedback2. They did a literal random survey to a subset of classic playersI feel like they followed the survey results pretty well which isn't necessarily a good thing. Part of being a good creative producer is knowing when the consumer is retarded and being able to give them what they didn't ask for. All creativity is gone and that fat retarded faggot Aggrend is running the show I think.
>>747613732they exist because they're ported from retoilet
In theory the game could be cool. However, I realize that the min/max community and streamers are going to make it into running the optimal dungeons and raids for BiS gear and if your class or spec is suboptimal you are blacklisted from participating.
>>747614031you can just join a guild or something
The existence of phasing/sharding/whatever alone kills the vanilla experience. They never fucking learn.
>>747614031They announced that dungeon spam may not exist as it once did. Dungeon quests will give very high experience but dungeon mobs will give almost nothing.
>>747613404>The rest was all very good stuffYou mean the ugly looking new dungeons, ugly new ue5esque graphics settings, the horrid retail UI, fucking up class design, horde paladins and alliance shamans, shamans losing 2handers, rewriting warcraft 3 to justify horde paladins, is all "really good stuff"?
>>747613894What surveys? Not the Classic+ Project surveys, that wasn't Blizzard.I don't think people who still play WoW should have any input on anything. But to say they asked or engaged with players at all is untrue. Not even remotely.Surveys? SoD? Classic WoW Feeeback?A joke. They announced and are essentially releasing the game at the same time. When was anyone asked about the new race?
>>747614190>shamans losing 2handerNigger what? That's the whole appeal of vanilla enhtard. What did they do?
It honestly looks like they just gave sod to the retail team and asked them to have at it. Why the fuck is Ion involved at all? It looks U ironically worse than sod
>>747614031someone post that vanilla comic with the ret paladin
>>747614190>another reeeeee UD can't be paladins fagSir Zeliek.>ugly new ue5esque graphics I can't believe toggled ambient graphical settings are triggering people this badly. you dumb fuckers bitched and moaned about nights not being dark enough, rain not being blinding enough and you finally get it and still bitch like a woman. >fucking up class designMaking it so warrior isn't the defacto DPS choice isn't "fucking up" class design anon.
>>747612309>pvp server>see opposite faction resting in a camp, taking a break and talking>Jump from a bush>NEVERSHOULDHAVECOMEHERE.jpg
>>747614424>I can't believe toggled ambient graphical settings are triggering people this badly.Because they're fucking ugly you idiot why would I pay for a product that has the option of looking like shit?
>>747614424>about nights not being dark enough, rain not being blinding enough and you finally get itBut we didn't, all we got was the dlss5 mene
is it going to be balanced or hordes will be busted as shit again like they were in most version of the game?>>747613293There's a pvp server, it's even the reason why they said they mad transmog optional, specifically for Worldpvp people
>>747614475>pvp server>see opposite faction resting in a camp, taking a break and talking>Jump from a bush>some of them just phase out of existence thanks to sharding>the rest isn't warmode flagged>you drop your spaghetti>some blue elf starts humping youfixed it for you
>>747608245same anon. i will ignore the Navi DLC and just play the base game. it’s SOD2 just like we asked for. blizz arent even asking us to buy Forever just to re-sub. boys we going agene
This is looks based, literally zero bad changes. Sky elves are eh but we do what we must to get a lil pussy in the horde. The haters are the losers who never mattered. Blizz pruned the rot real quick. LOVE IT!
Is this new version of WoW going to be "chad" or "incel"?
why are liberals so obsessed with being contrarian? totally random fucking people from multiple pserver projects managed to keep classic+'s integrity so why can't these Irvine retards keep themselves in check?
>>747612250Isn't turtle team working on their own mmo? Just go play that if you want their handiwork rather then them stealing models and quests from wow.
>>747614628>it’s SOD2 just like we asked for.
>>747607654The people...are retarded.
>>747614525>Because they're fucking ugly Oh that is just your dumbass opinion anon and the nice thing about opinions is everyone can have one!
>>747614612Horde was the underdog faction in vanilla actually. Worse in PvE, worse in PvP, less populated.
I love Paladins but I don't know if I can play this
>>747614696>Just go play that if you want their handiwork rather then them stealing models and quests from wow.Isn't that what nublizzard is doing though? Stealing from former developers?
>muh turtle wowYou niggers weren't even born yet when that came out. Stop reacting like bots with the same programmed responses. It's the most obvious sign you're just fronting.
>>747614628>>747614701It's not SoD2. SoD2 would have some crazy shit like Rogue Healer or Hunter Tank.
>>747614742How is it looking in this version?>>747614752a guy hurting himself like hell to use his old holy powers sounds pretty metal desu
>>747608036YOU THINK YOU DO BUT YOU DON'T Honestly how nobody picked up a gun and started killing blizzard devs is beyond me.
>>747608245if they had done high elves alliance / ogres horde then horde would be dead on arrival, they genuinely had no choice.
The jeets are in shill mode
why did they make undead paladins instead of tauren paladins?
>>747614296dual wield trannies have claimed shaman once again. it really is SoD 2.0 except without the good part (phase 1)
The fuck is a turtle wow?
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but we hate SoD screeched the brownoidWRONGWe hated the retarded pacing. FIXED.We hated a world buff meta. FIXED.We hated the lack of respect for the world and player. FIXED.
>>747614841by now*
FYI, looking a few videos, you can make Skyborne look exactly like high elves without a single asterisk. They don't have to be blue. They don't have to have tattoos, or any other stuff. I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing. I'm just letting you know.
>>747607654It sounds fine enough for me to try but fan fiction self insert elves are a bad indicator of what’s to come
They said the sharding is mostly for languages purpose to see more people from your languages. As an example, I think if you are on the PVP rules, you will mostly if not only see PVP people. You'll just maybe be able to play dungeons or raids with PVE/RP friends if you want to.
>>747614870Nothing was ever fixed. You could barely pvp in those events due to lag. In such an old mmo they couldn't even fix the servers and sharding ruined too. Wow will never be good the devs are subhuman pajeet niggers and do it out of spite
>>747607654Asking people what they want leads to design by comitee slopYou need a leader with a vision and an understanding of his own game
>>747614829I have a feeling the animations will be weird. I'm not sure what HD animations look like but they can't be better than the original.
They should not have made changes to the original game, but added to it. That is all, I'm not even gonna play it, I don't care. Goodbye, never talking about WoW for the rest of my life. And I suggest everyone do the same. Thank you, heck you.
>>747614942Didn't they also said many item ecosystem will also be limited to game modes? switching between each probably will have limitations, or a time between each switch at least.
Some sharding is needed. Only a retard is denial will say queuing for kill quests is "fun"
>>747614930>FYI, you can make the OC donut steel race that no one asked for white. That'll be $30!
>>747608126There won't be any social interaction once everyone is 60. Blizzard doesn't comprehend how to do an endless horizontal progression model. It's going to enter into a stale limbo the same as the sod shit or any classic era crap after the first one. They probably should have Hired That Man from Ascension before nuking it.
>>747614424>using sir zeliek to justify ud paladins LmAaAaOoOO
>>747615031>Didn't they also said many item ecosystem will also be limited to game modes?no. just that you can't wear pvp gear w/o the rating and nothing could transfer TO hardcore.
>>747615032there probably will also be queuing for kill quest anyway since there's really no servers anymore beside pvp, pve and rp, so there will be a shitload of players. even if languages preferences, you'll probably encounter people from other languages every now and then
>>747615032They intend to make people spread out. With the new dungeons and quests there are probably at least 3 different ways to level.
I like the soul gas they added in because it makes the zones feel mysterious.
>>747614854Are you shitting me? Dual wielding was the worst thing to happen to shaman and only retarded retail faggots ever asked for it on vanilla servers. I'm not touching the turd because of this alone.
>>747615191you can toggle it off if you don't want it anyway, it's just a choice
>>747615250it never is. 2 People will play 2 different games. It's just slop now. Sovless to the core.
>>747615250I'll just leave it on I think it will make the undead/nelf zones even better desu
>>747615137>you'll probably encounter people from other languages every now and then>tfw you are chilling at a camp and you see the Israeli plays encounters an Iranian player
>>747615325It literally is a choice. You can turn it on or off.
It was never the right course to ask people what things they want. The proper thing to do is define a design philosophy by which to judge any prospective change. It does seem that that's essentially what they did, giving particular weight to common suggestions. Unfortunately they seem to also have had a fair amount of retailbrain bullshit get through.
>>747615250This is the “answer” to too many things and in Forever. Game is going to have a serious identity crisis
>Decide to alter the lore of vanilla WoW>Do so by adding a floating island of peaceful blue magical flying elves that can be friends with everybody>And also will go to war with them and kill each other because they forgot this is a game with PvP and they'll just kill their own lore right out of the gate>Have no plans to do anything except have it be a worse and stagnant vanilla, foreverI have no idea how they could have thought this was their winning move.
>>747615336all the samples they showed look great. i hope we get intense weather effects too.
>>747615137>>747615340The deep dive said players will be filtered by gameplay type + preferred language they want to see.
>>747615032>the entire mmorpg experience must be annihilated because I may sometimes feel slightly inconvenienced by somethingRetoilet was created for "people" like you.
>>747615406>stagnant vanillaWhat the fuck would you want? Increasing the level cap is what leads to retail.
>>747615418for languages it still says "preferred" so occasionally you probably will still encounter other languages, maybe in hours when there's less players of your languages, depending where you are living, or the area of the game
>>747615250Oh cool can I toggle off all the other shit design decisions these tranny devs add? No? Ok I will toggle off playing in fact.
>>747615406>peaceful blue magical flying elves>peaceful They're in the midst of a civil war.
>>747615351I know you are retarded but it's literally not. It's only there so subhuman niggers like you get to tell people don't like it turn it off :^) Man you people are so lost. I'd kill myself if I were as mazed as you
>>747607654Taking chances in this economy? Are you insane????
They accidentally dropped spoiler on next allied race today for horde and it will be some BLACKED ogres. So enjoy that.
>>747615512Nigger what the fuck do you think a choice is? Do you think playing on high graphics settings isn't a choice? Do you think having graphics options in any game isn't a choice? Are you console-brained or some shit?
This is an option for players who don't want to play classic anymore or retail. Why do people here want absolutely no changes from the original classic? why not just playing classic then?
>>747615250>hehe he, there's like a toggle, like it's YOUR choice, oh my gosh like, just toggle it buddy, you realise you don't HAVE to buy WoW level boosts either right? Like it's your choice. hehehe. You don't have to use the gender swapping Barber. Every game tailored to your induvial style of play, don't like something? just close your eyes bro, just toggle it bro, just don't use it bro, ignore that part of the game man, like hehehehehehe.Settle down, Bevis.
>>747607654its literally an optimized and improved classic and people are still complaining.>muh blue elfits not mandatory. just don't get them. what's the problem? NE are also blue and they've been in the game since the beginning. nobody complained about them.>muh disneyficationstupid sloptube drama buzzwords. its literally the same character models and textures as in classic.>muh transmogyou can turn it off for your client. what's the problem.>blizzard pulling shit out of their assthis is literally their IP and whatever you take as canon was once also something pulled out of their ass. also it is clearly specified that this is an alternate timeline. of course there will be new stuff>muh forsaken paladinthis is just pure whining at this pointblizzard in an unexpected turn of events actually implemented 90% of what the community asked for and didn't even made them pay for that. you can play Classic + with the current sub. no box price. no predatory monetization (at least for now) and a group of devs that actually seem to understand what they are doing for once. and you dont even have to wait years for that. literally less than 2 months people just get off from hating at this point. also every single one complaining here will be waiting in line for wolves in northshire when it drops. see you there faggots.
>>747614930They wont be happy until you mouse over their character and it says "Level 9 High Elf Rapist."The fact that people will click on them, see "Level 5 Skyborne Druid" and laugh is enough to make them irate.
Sky Elves are only hated because modern Blizz did it. If they did it back then people would eat that shit up.
>>747614930You can do the same with void elf, doesn't matter. It still feels wrong and is a ridiculous loop to have to jump through when these guys have all the necessary assets available to make it a reality. The most they have to do is palette swap some existing elf building objects from red/green to blue/yellow and dress some area to serve as their starting zone.
>>747615571again 2 different people will play 2 different gamesyou are too retarded to understand. Too far gone.
>>747615032Shared tagging could have solved this.But instead you will get 3 hour cuck lines to kill Garick Padfoot.
Adding playable High Elves was like, the easiest layup ever, and Blizzard still fucked it upLOL
They already fucked up having a neutral race.This slop is just retail minus.
>>747615704They're saving high elves for wow 2
>>747615704I don't know why you guys want high elves so bad. The races that were adding up to Cataclysm are all fine and those are the races that should be in the game.But at this point I don't even think they should have tried to do Classic+. It's clear they can't do it, they can't even properly make new assets that match, I mean just give up.
>>747615406They do it on purpose because they are malicious commies like the ones that are ruining literally everything you love but also because they are retarded as fuck
>>747615672It's lighting you fucking weepy vagina. Am I playing a different game when I set the graphics from high to low?
>>747615784>I don't know why you guys want high elves so bad.If you're going to add a playable Elf race, why not add one that's been there all along? Why pull a new race out of your ass?
>>747607654>freedom to rewrite racial bonuses>could give Tauren skill to create 5 [Warm Milk] once every two hours>don'twhy
>>747615486Queuing is not fun.Waiting is not fun.A random jeet's time is not worth more than mine.You are the minority, the fool, and that is why games are not made for "people" like you.
I hope they will add the gobbos later...I want to play goburins...
>>747615759Forever IS WoW 2
>>747615692That has nothing to do with game design. Those people are just autistic and need to finish specific quests for no reason when you could kill 5 boars and achieve the same result continuing your leveling progress on a fresh server. Try again retard.
>>747615784>I don't know why you guys want high elves so bad.I wasn't even interested in them, but at this point, Blizzard are just being fags about it. They've added two not-high elf races at this point, and are just like, "whaaa, what do you mean? Isn't this what you want?" It's a symptom of them being tone deaf.
>>747615841Would you drink milk from a male tauren
>>747615809goalposting won't save your game anymore goy
>>747615672so a person playing on low graphics is playing a completely different game than a person playing on high? what the fuck are you even trying to say sperg?
>>747615832>>747615895There's no reason to add High Elves instead of Blood Elves.High Elves and Night Elves on the Alliance? lame, very lame.
>>747615930What goal post is there? Classic+ is not "no changes." That's what Classic is for. Turn the new graphics off.
>>747615846That's why the genre is completely dead, because they listened to subhumans like you.
>>747613605Anything else than elves on alliance? Game already had 2 type of elves.
>>747615616>Level 5 Skyborne Druidwhoa whoa whoathey're already gay enough let's settle down
>>747615846>jeetjeets dont have PCs. they only play chinese shit on their poorjeetdroids
>>747612309>take a cool concept like camping>put zero effort into it and copy a pserver made by modders >add no seasons or weather effects that would make the mechanic relevant outside of exp and buff farming>profitWhy is nu-blizzard like this?
>>747615924bind on pickup
>>747615961>There's no reason to add High Elves instead of Blood Elves.You got it backwards
I'm not even gonna bother with this slop. You goys are retarded. Go fix your lives
People bitching about this are just poor, remember that. Their fake characters on fake realms got deleted
>>747616017>uuuuuuuuuh the genre is dead>most streamed gaming event of 2026>been around for decadeshmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Blizzard, WoW Forever is exactly what I and many others want.Maybe it’s just me, but I picture a Blizzard employee reading 4chan and cringing at the responses to Classic+. But for me, and many others, this is EXACTLY what we’ve wanted. It was like a prophecy fulfilled yesterday, couldn’t believe my eyes. I wanted refreshed graphics a bit more than others, and I even got that, plus content updates for years to come in the 1-60 classic wow environment. Literally nothing to complain about. Sorry but just felt the need to put this rant here. It must be tough being a game developer with such a childish and miserable community, crying that they didn’t get exactly what they wanted.
>>747615692team up. max party size is 40
>b-but high elves are canonically a part of the allianceYeah and night elves are supposed to be their own faction.
>>747615846Doing a shitty dungeon or raid with randoms is no fun, more so when it's easy as fuck, the essence of mmos is the social aspect, that's what made wow so good back then not the piss easy content.
>>747616109>can't share the milk with your friendsWhat's even the point then
>>747615661they made what people will actually spend money onyou obese faggots begging for ogres or whatever dont move the needle. they know how few of you are really out there.
>>747615406The only conversation driving around blizzard products for the past few years has been classic+ speculation. That is like the only thing people still cared about from the company. I suppose even the clueless shareholder boomers started hearing about it. It must have been so bad that they had to tell the HR women and interns comprising the WoW teams to pause development of whatever troon Xalatath foot art they were making and start producing "classic+", except they were equally clueless what that even means. Thus we end up here.
A good 1.12 private server when? I'm tired of the indian coded blizzslop where basic class abilities don't work, the shitty new client where pet pathing is on the same level as 2006 private servers and layering.
For the people bitching about graphics options, did the ability to switch between old water and new water ruin Classic?
Gnomes don’t get enough shit for being a total asspull of a race and stealing the mage racial traits the high elves that should have been in the alliance would have had
>>747616132Remember that fake WoW is so much better than real WoW that Microsoft Activision Blizzard had to delete the competition.
>>747614808i said SOD2 not SOD1 anon. we got some game-breaking crazy shit in that game. (i hope/it seems) they’ve taken what worked and ditched what didn’t. take tanking shamans for example, one of the best parts of SOD & it now has a home in Forever
>>747616132You are a pajeet getting 10$ for a whole month of shilling, please don't project your poverty into everyone. Thanks.
>>747607654No they did most of what I wanted. Transmog and blue elves are shit but at least I can toggle one of those off.
>>747616162raids prevent you from completing quest objectives, retard.
>>747616162can't earn quest rewards in a raid group, newb.
The only appeal of classic was that ecelebs all got to play warrior and get all the gear funneled to them so they got to be the strongest person in the guild by a massive margin. A classic where warrior isn't the only class that matters is worthless.
>>747607654I actually asked them to tint the blood elf texture blue then sell them for $30 + monthly tip
>>747615874>Everyone must suffer because I love cock up the assAverage Blizzard shill.
>>747616185literally nobody's social memory of playing WoW is sitting in a line btw.
>>747616224I've been doing one for almost a couple of years now with a lot of custom shit but it's only for me and my homies.
>>747615616I unironically want to play a level 9 high elf rapist though.
>>747616258tank rogue was fucking fun and gave the class much needed group utilitynow they'll be back on the cuck chair
>>747607654As long as I can toggle off the shitty new UI and graphics and transmog, I'm fine with it. I know I can toggle off the last two, but I still haven't seen if you can toggle the UI.
>>747614215They did an official survey years ago only it wasn't an open one. They also even showed the classic+ project survey onstage at blizzcon for a short moment.
>>747608036>We listened to The Community :)>Forever is shaped by Your Feedback :)>*runs streamer sponsored community polls*>"do you want to see new races added to classic+?">The Community votes NO>FUCK YOU GOYIM YOU THINK YOU DON'T BUT YOU DO YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT WE KNOW BETTER THAN YOU ENJOY THE BLUE ELVES NOW PAY UP GOYPIGGIES OINK OINK FUCKING CATTLE PAY UP FAGGOTS
>>747616379Yeah, sitting in sw while waiting for a queue is much better, you are retarded
>>747614742yeah, i got into wow somewhat lateish into vanilla on a fresh server that had just opened. a bunch of my guild were horde players rerolling because alliance was simply better at everything. they had horde characters with t2 and still wanted to play a fresh alliance character because of paladins and fear ward.
>>747614986there aren't HD animations, they had a whole segment where they rerigged HD models to the SD animations
>>747613504warmode isnt in forever tho.
>>747616447>The Community votes NOThe community definitely voted yes. They just gave the wrong race.
>22 raid bosses to kill each week>across three raids, each with a different raid sizenope i'm too old for this
>>747616361This is not an actual problem except for a completely pointless quest mob during the first hour of a server launch yea. I generally don’t form my arguments around retarded circumstances like that, but here you are.
>>747616317>>747616320ok then do regular 5 people partyits still quicker than individually standing in line like some fuckin asians
>>747614031>However, I realize that the min/max community and streamers are going to make it into running the optimal dungeons and raids for BiS gear and if your class or spec is suboptimal you are blacklisted from participating.Yeah, now you remember why everyone stopped playing Classic. The min/max community forces everyone to play autistically just to shave a little time off their clears, when no one should care that much about clear times
>>747614190>losing 2handersSo we are are just lying now? 2H shaman is going to be insanely stronk with their talent setup. They deleted pointless talent points and made them baseline, Shamans can 2h by default. There are shaman using them in the fucking demo.
Threads on classic wow are always flooded with such retarded nonsense that I can't believe it to be anything other than some astroturfing campaign. This behavior isn't the standard 4chan critical skepticism or hatred of microtransaction-chasing bullshit. It's just full fucking retard.
>>747616258>one of the best parts of SOD & it now has a home in Forevernone of the pseudo roles or split roles made it in. no tank lock. no tank shaman. no heal mage. etc etc.
>we dont want to homogenize everything>btw no more faction exclusive classes>heres a boring blue blood elf neutral race>you can transmog gear now>also talents/skills are using our human centipede retail->sod->forever pipeline
>>747615692I've quit classic like 5 times over mob tagging
>>747616506that's like 2 nights of raiding. i'm probably still not playing it but that's nothing, raid loggers are gonna be bitching there's no content when they faceroll through the fights because everyone has broken op abilities.
>>747608036I think there's a pretty good consensus that they shouldn't be selling us $30 dlc for every new race/class
>>747616579its a few retail fag youtubers that constantly bitch about classic despite playing it every day
>>747616328Brother? I asked for anti soul gas and homogenization.
>>747616431The UI is highly customisable. Looking at different eceleb gameplay footage, none of them had the exact same UI.
>>747607654reception was overwhelmingly positive desu
>>747608036Fpbp, wow is too big for its own good
>>747616579everyones a tranny, a faggot or a thirdie latam shitbrain so naturally anything that isnt ffxiv or osrs does everything wrong
>>747616595it's retail-there's no tank lock, tank shaman, or heal mage in retoilet, therefore they shan't be in forever
>>747616447I wish they would do a polling system like OSRS just for the comedy that would come from seeing what gay retarded shit they would offer as choices
>>747616520Just look at the state of retail. They spent almost two decades pandering to retards who hate the MMORPG genre and just want an effortless single player skinnerbox. Now the "game" is completely devoid of anything which makes a MMORPG or a game at all.
>>747616506Guess what? You don't have to do all that. Raiding cannot take over your life without your consent.
>>747616595
>>747616762so true sis, us chuddy superstraight aryan first worlders are giga pogging rn for wow 2. blizzard, the whitest company on earth, cooked once more. poggers in the chat team
>>747616881the talents are out and runes aren't in.
When it comes to the idea of making it so you'll have to party and interact with other players to get anywhere and "making friends", what are the odds I actually meet normal people and not chungus redditors or people who think they're hilarious because they say nigger or faggot every sentence?
>>747616595Thank god. Ruining class roles by letting everyone do everything would be unacceptable.
>>747607654they did that already, and it turns out consoomers don't actually want it. a wise man once said, you think you do but you don't
>>747616813I really dislike people who throw around 'skinnerbox' accusations because they usually complain about RPG staples like levels and bitch about grinding. There's plenty to complain about but using power and reward incentives through tasks is exactly what an RPG is and people painting that with certain keyword cross hairs like 'skinnerbox' or 'we need horizontal progression instead of vertical' need to fuck off. They're ruining RPGs and conflating poor dev talent with the staples of what an RPG is at its core.
>>747616447>streamersthe cancer that killed mmos
>>747616639Raiding is just fundamentally flawed game design, it was fun 20 years ago when it was an assembly of people with similar goals strategizing and trying to figure out the boss abilities and what they were dealing with, this current braindead loot piñata not only is mind boggling easy and repetitive no matter how many layers of retarded hardmodes, modifiers or whatever garbage you stick on it over and over but it's also immensely frustrating when a bunch of 70 IQ retards are holding everyone back because they can't even move from a fire when their addon tell them to, let alone actually heal properly or other shit, all the while wasting hours upon ours on the most repetitive tasks imaginable hoping for your loot to drop.I'm completely done with this garbage.
>>747614842>give high elves to alliance and blood elves to horde>give high elves to both>give blood elves to both>give high elves to alliance and undead elves to hordeit really isn't difficult
In this household, we appreciate Sky Elves
>>747617030Yeah but that needs eventually a plateau, because otherwise you will end up with an absurd and unreachable disparity between a veteran and a new player, which doesn't actually mean in terms of skill gap, just gear gap and that's what expansions acted as, a reset button without making the player feel weaker.
>>747616956pretty high, wow players are pretty normie and old at this point. depends on the region though. eu is generally pretty insufferable socially. i dont remember the last time i saw someone random in NA say nigger or faggot and ive played every classic version a lot. its been like 10+ years or more
>We listened to the survey, you can't complain>w-wait DON'T ACTUALLY CHECK THE SURVEY!!!
>>747617183go back to wowfgyou're not allowed to takeover every thread about forever
>>747617183BASED
>>747617221>WELL TECHNICALLY THEY AREN'T NEUTRAL!!
>>747617183Why can't you just jack off on your own without having to post in every thread?
>>747617221The fact that Blood Elves are #1 is also disturbing
They're adding Stormwind Harbor, which will have a boat to Auberdine. The Night Elf Goldshire run is dead.
>>747616956It's never happening again. The time where you could simply talk to others is gone. Now almost everybody is a parasocial retard of some variety waiting for the chance to be upset at something or to upset somebody. Chats are also heavily censored and moderated to the point you cannot even strategically communicate anymore, much less crack a joke.
>>747616104WoW isn't a survival game, frogger. Go play Valheim.
>>747617214It's just low effort number go up slop design. Gear in traditional RPGs is unique and has specific use cases.
>>747617351>boat to southshoreCool
>>747617336Stop being triggered by hot chicks
>>747617221>murlocs aren't #1Gayest shit I've ever seen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOpdyytB3OY
>>747617351Jesus they just can't help themselves>you want retail right?No we don't want retail>yeah but you want retail?No thanks>But retail is greatNo it isn't>YEEEEAAAHHH YOU WANT RETAIL
>>747617221kek. that reminds me, all the dark iron dwarf looks exist in the game too, in both SD and HD. all they need to do is apply them as additional dwarf customization options..
>>747617336Coomers are extremely gay so they need to share their fetishes and goon routines with other braindead faggots. Like half of the threads are infested with them.
>>747617384it should be. nights should be darker and mobs should turn into elites at night
>>747617406We are discussing vidya. You have entire boards dedicated to pornography. Post on one of those instead of derailing vidya threads. Do not reply.
>>747617221>ogres would never work, no one wants them>more people want them than pre-existing worgen or dark iron dwarf
>>747617506That sounds like something an MMO that insists upon itself would do.
>>747616956just like in the real world you will meet a mix of personality types. in my experience around 80% aren’t worth associating with; the rest are OK cuntsor good cunts. remember anon it’s self-selecting so if you find yourself friends with the 80% it’s because you deserve to be there
>>747617221>the top two highest-rated races are both elves>what if, instead of having to create two different starting zones, we made up a completely new race out of thin air and made them neutral so we only have to make one starting zone?
>>747617402Yeah, ideally you would have different gear for different occasions, but the that wouldn't feed the modern wow player, I've seen people just quit the game once they acquired their last piece of BiS, because according to them there was nothing left to do, I still wonder why the fuck would anyone quit after they got the gear to actually do shit.
>>747616956>"we hope you have serendipitous interactions!!">sit at the edge of the camp>DONTTALKTOMEDONTTALKTOMEDONTTALKTOME
>>747617612>add high elves>they can start in the human zone>add undead high elves>they can start in the undead zone
>>747617765ban footfags
>>747617765AI slopper, you do know that Stormwind has almost no high elves due to geography, right? Logically, the high elves would start in the dwarf starting zone.
>>747617470>we want classic with changes!>NO NOT LIKE THAT REEEEEEEEEE
Ok now this is heckin wholesome and all of the things
>>747617098yeah that's fair, that's how i felt the last time i was raiding too. having the few idiots in the group holding back progression by literal days and wasting your life because they're retarded is awful. i always burn out from raiding because of it. the bit of raiding that i did on classic was "fine" because all the content was piss easy and that's preferable to wiping 400 times because a group member sucks and you can't replace them.
>>747617351>>747617470Stormwind Harbor existed on Turtle WoW too.
>>747617894Yes thats right
>>747616956You'll meet any kind of people, from giga (based) heil hitler racists to reddit niggers and everything in between, just like irl, just choose who you want to befriend/like.Hell, in the first classic cycle I met a guy I used to play against in a dead RTS 12 years ago, we played together for like an year before I mentioned playing that game and he told me he did as well, we exchanged our nicknames from then and we were people who fought vs in tournaments all the time lol.
Classic fags already got classic if they want to play classic
>>747617997I don't care
>>747617765or even, if they're dead-set on creating a neutral race>add high elves and blood elves>they both start in quel'thalas>have to pick a side at level 10, which changes your eye color
>>747617925wholesome chungus
>>747617925Gay
>>747618048retail fags already got retail if they want to play retail
>>747617925oh my gosh, this is so heckin cute...
>>747618074You're just one person. Hundreds of thousands of people played Turtle WoW, and for them, it was a vision of what Classic+ should be.
>>747617925>We're putting the war back in warcraft guys!!The audacity of these pricks
>>747607654everything except the blue elves is what I wanted though. so Ill pay for what I want and wont pay for what I dont want
I miss Turtle WoW and Ascension, bros. At least when they existed and Blizz did some stupid shit I could log back in, trash talk blizzard, get my fill of gameplay, then put it down until I got the WoW itch again
>>747617925>>747618102>>747618108>>747618132>>747618157I dont' understand what's wrong with this. WoW had cute, whimsical, nonserious stuff in it from day one, like gnomes.
>>747614930Something people have a lot of trouble grasping is there has to be continuity of art direction when the entire point of "classic+" was to build on the original game.It's the same reason a modern house looks like shit in an old neighborhood or a guy with little pink shorts looks out of place at an irish pub. it ruins the 'vibe' Old photograph of men and women walking to work in suits, looking nice and refined. now you have to look at morons wearing their pajamas in public, shitty looking cars, ugly buildings.and that's what WoW forever is.And, europoors, you love to shit on america for being this way but your taste in videogames proves that just because you wake up in the barn doesn't mean you own the farm. You're on the shoulders of giants and most of you have learned absolutely nothing. WoW Forever has a dev team that fundamentally does not understand artistic continuity. These are people who probably have ikea furniture and comic book posters in their house. You can't trust them to have good taste or make anything consistent when their whole style is buying shit from comic con. The grit of WoW classic was in those liminal areas and the weird places that felt dangerous simply because of how different they were from the starting areas but still had continuity of a subdued color palette. it's tone i think that made it so kino. When everything you design is shiny and some unnatural color, it fucks up the experience. YOU CAN TOGGLE OFF TRANSMOG AND HD MODELS BUT YOU CAN'T TOGGLE OFF ACTUAL TRANNIES PLAYING THE GAME WITH YOU WHO HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO TASTE IN AESTHETICS OF ANY KIND. this game is for disney adults and it's not classic plus. whimsy being forced down your throat is unnecessary, it was already in the game because it's a fantasy game
>>747618197And there's the disingenuous tranny
>>747618197Just ignore the bitter old fags seething we're not just getting barebones classic v3
>>747618208Explain your reasoning because I just see you troons bitching about how it's not grimdark. WoW was never grimdark.
everyone is excited about megaservers but are choosing to forget layering exists and will be used extensively, QoL like account wide exp buffs for alts and removing the mat requirements for buffs is retail coded af
>>747614930>>747618206Skyborne also have 0 non-HD models, accidentally confirmed by a streamer clicking the HD toggle during character creation. enjoy your clashing artstyles.
>>747618138>Hundreds of thousands of people played Turtle WoW, and for them, it was a vision of what Classic+ should be.Blizzard shouldn't have shut it down then hey Raj
>>747618253>another gaslighting shillCompare the two intro cinematics you dopey faggot
>WoW was never grimdark.
>>747618267yep this exactly. the game is going to look like shitzero respect for continuity
>>747618287>y-you're indian!Blizzard was completely within their rights to shut it down, it's their intellectual property. You can complain about that as much as you want, but unless you vote politicians in that will fight against copyright law, it's all just posturing.
>>747618238so true sis, wow was always zany chungus and developed by 50 year old hags. dont let the chuds revise history!
>>747618253Compare OG WoW trailer with the disney forever trailer lil bro and you will see
>>747618345>95
>>747618206You are right anon and I don't think most people itt will honestly respond to you, but I think another example is in the writing. Original devs were obviously somewhat versed in mythology and religion from the real-world. Most people nowadays think religion is something evil and stuff like norse mythology is something only neo-nazis know about. It will be impossible for them to write anything close to classic WoW. I can guarantee you the average writer for WoWF will have read far more young adult novels than any sort of classic literature.
There has not been a single new black character added to Classic Forever.Apologize to him.
>>747618346so much this!! basically retail
>>747614930>racial ability is still calling upon air elementals to help you glide
So many boomers seething and screeching in this thread because the knowledge they had of the 530 years old MMO isn't gonna allow them to be elitists anymore.
>>747618410The writing in WoW was always bad. The characters talk in stilted edgy confrontational ham. Like they're cutting wrestling promos.
>>747618410You are right on the money. ++++
>>747618126What the fuck do you even want. Just go play classic if you want classic. What you're asking for is already right there.
>>747618345I don't know if it was grimdark but it definitely had an 80's heavy metal aesthetic.
>>747618451>There has not been a single new black character added to Classic Forever.they did worse by adding the blue niggers
>>747618517shut the fuck up brownskin
>>747618489I somewhat agree but I think the worldbuilding is where the writing always shined
the graphics panel was kino. lore panel was good too and they also hinted at ogres coming to hordeWs in the chat
>>747618358>Blizzard was completely within their rights to shut it down, it's their intellectual propertyThe custom content made by turtle and now being stolen by Blizzard isn't their intellectual property.
>>747618470this is the private server tranny vent thread. every other version of wow just got nuked into dust and they're looking to blame blizzard for killing them
>>747618407>>747618496Your wacky and goofy fantasy setting, sire.
>>747618492>What the fuck do you even wantNot this shit you desperate retail whale
>Everything turtle made was on Blizzard's engine >I-i-it's theres because they adjusted 1 pixel on the Bloodelfs arm when they made High Elfs!Private server trannies are shameless
>>747614930You can do the same thing with void elves and blood elves (who are literally just high elves that changes their name). High elf fags don't care. Unless they're specifically referred to as high elves then it doesn't count. They're beyond autistic levels of pedantry.
If you're in this thread and you genuinely listen to the butthurt sneeding trannies in here who have the option TO ALREADY PLAY #NOCHANGES VANILLA and choose to shit on classic+ are coping faggots
>>747618583Same expansion as Haris Pilton and Ophera Windfury.
>>747618613>ideas aren't intellectual propertyget a load of this dalit
>>747618613So why isn't blizzard doing it?
>>747618197Trailer and in game stuff aren't the same>gnomesThere's a reason they're never in the trailers
>>747618541greenskin actually, I will kick your repulsive blueberry ass out of my party on sight
>>747618583>>747618662wow was always both edgy and full of pop culture references
Im torn between hunter and warlockif i go hunter im going BMif i go warlock im going SLSL
>>747613634>They made a "game" in secret, under no circumstance did they ask anyone anything. And it shows.you just haven't been paying attention, streamers made classic happen, they made hardcore happen and made forever happen too. blizzard have been flying them to irvine for months to give feedback, you may not like it but it's true. just cause they didn't ask YOU doesn't mean they didn't use joardess survey results, their own survey results or use AI agents to comb the literal 100s of youtube videos made over the years about what classic+ should be, if anything what we've been shown is they are creatively bankcrupt and have no new ideas at all
>>747618267No, they do have TBC era models. There's apparently a glitch where it doesn't show on the login screen, but in-game, it's there.
>>747618619>They're beyond autistic levels of pedantry.Asking for the race that has been in the game since WC3 instead of blue elves or black elves or purple elves or red elves or pink elves or cloud elves or rainbow elves which were not in WC2 or 3 isn't pedantry, kill yourself
>>747618683Because Blizzard are cowards that don't want to display the technological and biological superiority of the gnomish race.
>>747618662I think major set pieces matter more than irrelevant meme NPCs buried deep in the game, you fucking retarded tranny.
>>747607654I just want Alliance high elves and ogres sonce 2005 why is that so fucking hard to get?
>>747618731>those textures>that lightingwas this made by blind people I wonder
>>747618673>>747618675Saars why aren't blizzard copying my Dalit programming saars? Turtle wow 4 life sirs blizzard death to!
>>747618746Set pieces! Okay, like how the players have to perform in an opera production of Little Red Riding Hood in Karazhan.
>>747618746>i-it doesn't count, because I said so!I accept your concession
>>747618546maybe I'm crazy but I feel that there were two races hinted that they may have initially been planning to add, then upper management told them they needed to add the P2W blue elves?>new highborne area>new ogre areathese two seemed suspiciously on-target for two races people would like to have. kind of wonder if these two will have reputation that will eventually unlock the races
>>747617851still better than blue sky elves.that also isn't ai
is this the thread sisters?/here/ from turtle wow discord!fuck blizzard!!ascenion hype!!fuck blizzard!!!
>>747618830>posts more irrelevant one-offsYou lost.>>747618840You lost too, tranny.
>>747618791>Turtle WoW was great that's why we copied it!>NOO DON'T POINT OUT HOW WE HATED IT AND GOT IT SHUT DOWN BUY OUR DOGSHIT PRODUCT SAARRR BUY PLS PLS NUMBA 1 BEST PRODUCT SARR BLUE ELVES SAAAR
>>747618791Trying to hard jeet, are you not ashamed of belittling your own people for 10 bucks? I'm sure you can find a better job than shilling garbage online
>>747618852It's hard to tell with pornographic images of World of Warcraft characters, given how WoW fans are also, by and large, big AI fans
>>747618731that's funny because other people said that there is no toggle for non-HD options on the show-floor demo. and I'm not sure what this screenshot is supposed to show, those aren't TBC models
>>747618830That is literally a grim dark retelling of little red riding hood you dumb nigger lmao, THATS THE POINT
>>747618730they didn't invite reckful?
>>747618934Grimderp red riding hood would have a rape scene and then she'd behead the wolf and wear it as a hat.
>>747618763>>747618842we have to accept that they couldn't monetize something like ogres or high elves as they're og warcraft racesthe outrage would've been crazy after so many years of people demanding these races to be dded throughout various wow expansions only for them to add them behind a paywallbut re ogres, i'm optimistic. listen to thishttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2873254366?t=5h30m51snow the question is, what's for alliance since blue elves are kinda there and high elves wouldn't make much sense
>>747618934Prime example of: It's amazing how much leftists discourse is just them pretending not to understand things. Thus making discourse impossible
>>747607654>literally all anyone wants is more WoW classic>instead they make an over monetized (and likely completely dogshit) OSRS competitorto be a fly on the wall of any higherup blizz meeting to see what these bozos are thinking
>WarcraftTroonified>StarcraftTroonified>DiabloTroonifiedIf you are a Blizzard product consumer in 2026, you are beyond gay and retarded. All Blizzfags must kill themselves immediately.
>>747618763>recall in TBC people asking for original (broken) draenei, ogres, undead elves, and naga>20 years later they add random sky elves instead
>>747619057I agree, and I was prepared to pay to enjoy the animated corpse of something good, but looks like dead is better.
>>747619057Those who curse blizzard will be cursed by Vishnu in return.
>roll rogue>ambush people on low health or lowbies exclusively>never set foot into a battleground after I have my blue pvp set >never (ever) open on anyone unless I have all of my CD's (all of them)>never exit stealth period unless I have all of my CD's (all of them)>buy gold and only ever join GDKP with BIS reserved>only ever unstealth in the capital when unflagged, to show the RMT gear I bought classic....home....
>>747619057mick gordon is on SC, it can only be pvre kino
>we heard you so we asspulled these random blue elfs out of nowhere like you wanted!
>>747619025probably like something that was in those Sony email leaks
>>747618451mf has been eating the Ozempic, he didn't read the package that says it needs to be injected into the blood stream
>>747619009this is also the part that piqued my interest regarding the ogres. and yeah unfortunately highborne elves seem off the table given the wind elves, I think the pushback would be heavy if horde got a cool ogre race and alliance got another elf. if you look at the WoW survey, the highest-voted potential Alliance race that doesn't already exist in retail is Furbolg, but it is well below the other races. I believe they could try to create something completely new, but I'm not sure what it would be.
>>747619192IT'S MAAA'AM!!
>>747619297didnt they tease a furbolg raid?trying to think. maybe the broken in swamp of sorrows join the alliance so they contest the horde in the zone?
>>747619297reading other replies in the thread I just realized, one of the highest Alliance races that was voted for is Draenei. It would be funny if they added in Broken-style draenei, but I know that would probably be too much effort for them.
>>747619342They definitely teased some sort of furbolg content. I think it's possible, I feel that furbolgs have been requested for quite a while. Does vanilla actually have any broken models to use? I guess you're right, it would be difficult to justify creating a Broken race without the dark portal opening. furbolg seems most likely to me
>>747619483>Does vanilla actually have any broken models to use?yeah. there's some in swamp of sorrows and blasted lands
>>747615615>Alternate timelineDoes this mean there's a chance we can get a timeline where we can actually support Garrosh as the leader of the Horde over the mess that followed after Pandaland?
>>747619519Those aren't broken, they're lost ones.
>>747619009>>747619297>>747619345Whatever they add I just want them to deliver on racial differences being more impactful.What we've seen has been nice enough, but they should go even further beyond. I don't care if it results in FOTM meta picks, I just want strong fantasy.
>>747619562garrosh will never even be leader.
>>747619009Warcraft ogres are unique though, they don't need a dumb trade name for someone to immediately recognize them when they see the three-eyed two-headed guy in a loincloth.
>>747619562In this timeline Sylvanas wins with the help of the blue elves and takes over Azeroth. Total Sylvanas Viktory.
>>747619519I guess it's possible but my money is on Furbolgs and Ogres for the first big content patch.
>>747619585ah yeah, you're right. broken are fucked up draenei, and lost ones are fucked up broken.
>>747618613Blizzard already had better high elves but changed them because people cried about them
>>747607654My old Classic guild is trying to reform for Classic+ and asked me if I want to be GM again. I just told them no.
>>747619562If the dark portal never opens, Garrosh will never come to Azeroth. He'll likely get vaporized by Draenei space lasers or eaten by a fel orc raider.
>>747619696in this timeline hopefully all of the wc3 heroes won't go full retard. no dead kael, etc
>>747619740lost ones are just the original draenei before wow retcons
>>747618730Nost made classic happen. Private made classic happen. You are nothing without the collective effort of a bunch of autists in a basement.Streamers are parasitic worms.
>>747619906The retcons made them better and fit better into the greater narrative.
>>747607654Why do you guys still play wow if you hate it so much ?
>>747619906Counterpoint: Blue space goats are hot.
>>747613548Have you played it? No? Then kill yourself, corpofaggot.
>>747620090Same reason you're still on /v/.
>>747614625Wait phasing is a thing in WoW:Forever?
>>747619973>and fit better into the greater narrative.???
>>747620161There aren't even any realms.
Can we delete all that void and afterlife shit and change the BBEG back to the Dreadlords and Sargeras?
Is there an option for classic low poly graphics? Really is a deal breaker for me.
>>747620161>>747620240best change imo to go with megaservers
>>747620265yeah, you can toggle the old character models
>>747617506I'd dig it if there was a night hard mode you can opt into from town. In the hard mode you can't group up and the elites become stronger the farther out from town you go. The elites have a chance to drop blue/purple gear, but if you die or log out without returning to town, you lose any equipment collected.
>>747620189Outland has themes of corruption and sickness, the world is rotten from Ner'zhul and Gul'dan using evil magic. Draenei just being ugly, creepy, freaky mutants from the get-go kinda contradicts those themes.
>>747608036>>no two people will ever agree on even a majority of pointsno shit, surveys were poisoned by jaded retailfags that told them the only way they would play classic+ is if they destroyed everything that made is classic
>>747620161They're doing some kind of distributed server network. You pick a "ruleset" (pve/pvp/rp/hc) and you get placed alongside people in that same ruleset using some kind of priority algo. Presumably accounting for real world location, recent in-game zones, friendlist, guild membership, recent party membership, etc.There are no servers in the traditional sense.
>>747620090I don't
>>747620265You really think they're going to make 2 models for everything?
>>747608126watch the gameplay streams, it's all lies you retard, you fell for>we are bring the WAR back in warcraftright after the controversy of holly saying chris metzen regretted calling it warcraft, that's why he wasn't even at blizzconthe entire panel was damage control PR nonsense, wow forever is literally retail garbage with meaningless popular classic+ talking points that have no bearing on the actual product
>blood elves added>kael'thas is the rightful leader as he always should have been
>>747608245you wanted classic to become gay disney retail shit?
>>747620291Ideally they should have megaservers and then the sharding/layering should be fully visible to and manually entered by players, similar to how Runescape does worlds.
>>747614930ALL THE MALES LOOK LIKE FAGGOTS WHAT ARE TALKING ABOUT
>>747615250oh yeah? how'd that work out for diablo 2 resurrected and warcraft 3 reforged?oh that's right, the future content FORCED the new graphicsyou are a boiled froga gay boiled frog
>>747620619that's why nobody played night elf male not even back in 2004 vanilla
>>747620431it is switchable or are you stuck forever on one setting?
>>747615406skyborne aren't even elves, they are "attractive" sky trolls, WoW lore is being taken out back and shot
>>747620474They could make models that resemble the higher-poly stuff from vanilla and they wouldn't have to, I felt that the epic class weapons from BWL on SoD hit that goal pretty well.
>>747620696I like the new graphics. They should be mandatory as well.
>>747617221>skyborne would have lost to murlocsWhew
>>747618263Good. I want the community and the classic experience without the classic headache like spending an hour killing 12 mobs or waiting in a5 hour long line for a head loot. Nobody truly wants this but autistic weirdos.
>>747620752I don't know, except that if you start in hardcore and die you can transfer that character to some other ruleset and keep playing.I'm going to assume it's a permanent choice per-character like servers used to be until explicitly told otherwise.
>>747620771They could but they aren't it's straight up retail assets, good luck toggling that off
>>747615406>bluesky elvesThey stand for progress and gender liberation!
>>747614190uh oh melty
>>747620942They stand for plaps and hugs
>>747620619Yeah. Like high elves.
>>747620840Why is he smiling? What is this Disney's The Black Cauldron ass shit art? Please tell me this wasn't official.
>>747614424any dev from any game can deliver the perfect game and most of this absolute faggots will just complain like the faggots they are, on the other hand, it's funny to come here and laugh at them
>>747620980skyborne literally have feathers in their hair, do tiktok dances and have glitter racials, what are we even talking about, the hell is wrong with you
>>747620942They stand for retail-
>>747620978This image fails the concept. They're not dark elves, they wouldn't wear BDSM-style lingerie, they're wind elves, they should have flowing gowns and feather boas.
>>747621109You can take those out. There are videos floating around of the customization stuff. You can make them look exactly like normal high elves.
>>747621191Thats why shes confused, her human male paladin bf had her put it on
>>747621234That's another failure of the concept, they would date human male mages, not paladins.
>>747621234Based
>>747607654Looks good and I've been playing Vanilla and Classic servers off and on since 2004.You wouldn't be happy with anything they'd do, just give up. It's painfully obvious that no one dooming about it watched the panels explaining the game. Only things I'd criticize is the new race is boring, but more will be added later and my first character race/class is set in stone whenever I start playing again anyway.
>>747621213no you can't, you can't take out the tiktok dances, the zoomer emotes, or the butchered loreit's all fag shit for faggotsyou are never going to convince anyone with self respect to play the garbage, it's retail
>>747621191>They're not dark elves, they wouldn't wear BDSM-style lingerieNu-blizzard would never.
forever just completely copied retail its so blatant it's nothing like classic, also copied turtlewow with their dungeons and quest philosophy and reputations and survival skill and class balancing and horizontal progression. just call it retail+ guys
How would you feel if other classes aside from Priest had racial spells?
>>747621268Its canon that elves are attracted to light bearing males
>>747621313Bro the blood elf dance was them doing fruity Michael Jackson moves. They're elves. Just don't play them. They cost money, anyway, lmao.
how come they arent making more 40 man raids
>>747621404High elves are because high elves like sunwells and paladins are living sunwells, these aren't high elves.
>>747621487the sunwell was arcane, not light, fake fan
>>747619057Only after all frogfags kill themselves and not a second soon.
>>747621565It's a font of arcane power that radiates light. Paladins radiate light and have mana bars (have arcane power), ergo, they are like the Sunwell.
Here is a streamer, you guys love those, saying NOBODY knows what classic+ is supposed to be.Therefore we can do whatever we want.
>>747617997and it killed the Night Elf Goldshire run
>>747620995i think some of you have a really warped idea or memory of what warcraft is man and don't get me wrong i fcompletely agree that the new direction is more disney but warcraft always had silly in it from the fucking murlocs, or units in wc3 having silly lines or making funny noises if you repeatedly clicked on them, fucking gnomes and their voices etcit's not supposed to be warhammer, more like warhammer lite
>>747621818Blizzard is retarded but so is your average classic player so I don't blame them completely. The consumer is ultimately the one that pays the companies to create slop and tells them what direction to go in.
>>747621820Some would argue that's a good thing as the horde equivalent, the Mulgore-Durotar stretch is nowhere near as grueling. It also lets them add completely new landmasses that you can go to later down the line, which was the entire point of Stormwind Harbor being added in Wrath.
>>747621565Was. The new one was created from a dead Naaru.
>>747621878I agree that original WoW was more of an edgy 80's action movie but the current state is so gay and disney they need to pivot into total grimdark to scare away the normies and trannies and women.
>>747607654which other chads are testing beta this Thursday?
>>747617765>female human priests no longer allowed to display shoesbased
>>747621818Turtle WoW was essentially everything classic players wanted.
>>747622124You paid to beta test this garbage?
>>747622186Not him but where do you think you are? This board has regular gacha threads. Of course the golems here have it pre-ordered.
>>747622148So far almost everything shown has been in line with Turtle. Exceptions being the blue elves and the legacy/achievement system, even that was sort of done in Turtle through fashion coins and challenge modes.
The paid race shit is so fucking shameless. Ignore the fact that the race is just a blood elf reskin, ignore it's on both factions, just ignore that it looks like a retail thing.$30. This is the future of """classic+""".They will start locking new features, customization and classes behind a paywall.>but the rest of it is free! they have to make money somehow!They will add WoW tokens. It's not an if, but a when. Same with lvl 60 boosts. There will be a cash shop with mounts and transmog.This is on top of a $15 a month subscription.It would be less insulting if they, every 2-3 years, would sell you an expansion basically.$30.00 JUST for a retarded race that nobody asked for. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a retail reject concept. This is also testing the waters for adding paid classes, future paid races, etc. If there is no sufficient pushback, it's only going to get more greedy.Blizzard had the easiest job in the world. They got SOME stuff right. New dungeons in line with vanilla? Good.But then WTF is the camping system shit. You get a buff depending on someone having a certain profession? Does Blizzard not realize how bad of an idea this is?? You are turning what is supposed to be a chill experience into toxicity where people get rejected for not having the right/duplicate profession.Don't even get me started on their forced megaserver shit. I do not want to be on the hyperbot streamer realm, but I am forced to. It is worse than the paid race addition. I hope they go back on this.
>>747620995AU Gul-Dan is a chuckler.
>>747621818People should stop using "data" in place of your brain, but you especially shouldn't use a fucking online poll in place of your brain. If you polled active Classic Era players and ONLY Classic Era players, that might mean something. This poll means nothing.
>>747622672Bro just like turn your brain off and toggle/ignore the stuff you don't like haha. Just pick around the turd in your salad and stop being miserable. Be grateful Blizzard made this game for us out of the goodness of their hearts.
>>747622186Yes I pre ordered the bundle that lets me beta test.
Reminder that posters in this thread are Private server trannies mad that blizzard NUKED their for profit scam servers ran by Chinks so they're spamming threads on /v/ to cope.
>>747622831Goycattle
>>747622831Thank you for contributing to the downfall of the West.
>>747622345no its nothing like turtlewow because turtlewow is classic plus and forever wow is like retail can't you read the thread
>>747622872Sis, nobody is taking the bait. Do better.
>>747622831You should've donated that money to poor, impoverished Brazilian transvestites.
>>747621487Highborn/Quel'Doeri/High ElfThe Night Elf upper crust always refereed to themselves at that.
kill private server trannies and their families
>>747622967because even the doomjeets clocked out of their sesh to go take a neet nap this thread is at 1 bump every 20 minutes now
If you aren't playing the beta you will be left behind, everyone will already know all the optimal quests and dungeon layouts and leveling specs/professions while you are still figuring out your layout. You will be experiencing the game months after the real players.
>>747623020Yeah, and these are shen'dorei, or children of hidden birth. The name gives it away: they only date men who can solve mysteries, and those are mages.
>>747623217Nah, I will just read a guide.
>>747613732Be careful what you wish for retard
>>747622345>challenge mode makes the game harder>legacy system makes game easier ︵ ( ͠° ͟ °)
>>747622345The blue elf starting area is horrendous. We haven't seen too much of the rest.The only proper new zone addition is Riverglades, which looks good.Picrel is barely a zone.Hyjal, we don't know shit about.The new dungeons seem alright. Except Dalaran. What a retarded concept.The horizontal progression shit will bite them in the ass sooner or later. I doubt they have anything planned out past the first year of content.
>>747623315Challenge modes gave you cosmetic rewards (toys, mounts, pets and titles) like achievements do. That's why I said sort of.
The blue elves are critical because how else will the players most likely to drop cash on mtx get to live out their AGP fantasy where they get to be a beautiful passing biological woman?
>>747623217>FOMO alreadyfuck that
>>747623354do the blueggers even have a town/city or is it just like random shitty camps
>>747623487Anon, night elf females and human females have been in the game since 2004.
>>747622795They should do a poll on the first boss added to the game. I would love a 40 man Hitler raid.
If people can turn off transmog why would i transmog? Wtf lol, they really don't get it. I can already install body mods lmao
>>747623540Not on Horde and those are old and stale. They need to be able to erp on new recolors from time to time to keep the interest going.
>>747623539They have a flying city and an island.
>>747623595Orc females and troll females are the horde equivalent.
>0 mention of bots>Still pretending they don't exist It's over
>>747623217It's an RPG. I'm just going to log in and play.I will be reading all my quest text as if I am voicing the characters in my head. I will have fun and get to 60 whenever I get there.I hope we get new content in and around Silithus. I fucking love that bug infested shithole.
>>747621354But it's not retail. There's only the vanilla continents. No portals, no death knights, and Hyjal with Archimondes remains still on it, just the way it was in classic.
>>747623737They are making the bot problem even worse by making making 1 mega server per ruleset & region.>>747623786They already added an asspull (sky)island and it hasn't even released.
>>747623572Does your enjoyment from playing virtual dressup simulators come from printing pictures of your creations and showing them to everyone, or from actually playing the virtual dressup simulators?
>>747615406Pvp realms are not.cannon bro
>>747623837And the sky island isnt in retail either. Therefore, not retail. It's classic plus (+) new content.
>>747622902>>747622930It’s $80 and it comes with the Warcraft 3 expansion ($30 value) and 1 month gametime ($15 value) and Skyborne access ($30 value) so you’re only paying an extra $5 to play the beta
>>747624029>This digital toy is really good value for only $80!
>>747623837apparently the sky island is based on Metzwn concept art from vanilla development
>>747623921I mean, from an entirely in-lore perspective, WoW should be a free-for-all PvP game with crossfaction parties, quests and so forth. The player characters aren't enlisted soldiers, they're adventurers tasked with exploring the world and finding resources, information or treasure by their respective government. You know how in Warhammer 40k you have the Rogue Traders who are allowed to make deals with aliens and have permission to go where others can't? The player character in WoW is like that.
I think the sky elves are probably a business strategy mandate as much as they are an OCdonutsteel.They look and feel like retail on purpose because Blizzard wants to provide a hook for the zoomies who are hesitant about anything too "unc coded". They needed to be pretty elves because otherwise the Chinese won't play it. It "sovles" two problems in a way that will mostly not alienate Andy.
>>747623872I don't put on make up and a dress when I sit at home by myself. You wouldn't get it, don't reply to me
>>747624102fake news
/we/ will be playingenjoy your cucked chink private servers
>>747624102in the same way that the retail dragon isles are based on the alpha vanilla concept.
>>747624152But you do put on make up and a dress?
>>747624184Yes.
>>747624118Yeah nah brah, stick to vanilla dude, and don't post your opinion anymore the adults are talking.
All the big dogs are rolling horde
>>747624184*Shits into your open mouth and you happily eat it*Nuf said
>>747607654YOU THINK YOU DO BUT YOU DON'T
>>747624281Shotcallers for horde.
>Buff every class>Buff every race>Buff gear>Content is still the same solved piece of shitCan't wait to do Molten Core in under 5 minutes
I even disliked wotlk combat compared to classic....can't imagine what retail slop plays like
>>747607654No SteamNo Buy
>>747624547>Buff every race Orcs lost their pet buff :(
See, this is why I only use /v/ for getting vidya news and stickies. 9 times out of 10 unless a game is obvious movie-game slop, I enjoy whatever /v/ bitches about.
>>747624547They already changed numbers in SOD they'll do it here too.
>>747624992They also nerfed the fuck out of the first real challenge they added to SoD (Sunken Temple 20) after dadtroons couldn't beat it.
>>747624992>Player stats go up by like 50%>Player gets more and better spells>Content gets 5% tougher yet nothing of value is added to them
>>747625193*gasp* raceists
The new race is growing on me. Their slow fall is controllable and stays active during combat so you got a little ghetto glider to escape with
>>747625325It's not a terrible concept. I think they got lazy with it, they should've been full-blown genies instead of elves. The $30 price tag is the biggest problem thoughhowbeit.
>classic plus>look inside>retail minus
>>747614842People played horde in turtle and it was only 60/40.
The Paladin mount for Forsaken Paladins
>>747625408I think it's a great monetization and am fine paying for races and classes.I would pay $30 for classic-ized death knights happily. I would pay that much for a new race I actually like.
>>747626014I will now play your game
>>747617090>mmosThats not how you spell "gaming"
>>747617181horde ogers would have been sick too, but that would require far too much effort for them.
How much gigs do you think WoW Forever will take? My SSD only has space for 55gigs.
>>747626745it's 128 gb confirmed
>>747626745About 3.50
