bros you said BLIZZARD WAS LE KILLED WHY IS IT STILL ALIVE!?
>only """"new"""" """""""""""game"""""""""" blizzard is releasing until 2029 is a twentieth version of WoW
>>747610628Good. All their other games went to shit which is why they're building off of classic now
>>747610509there’s enough subs and people buying mtx to keep it profitable
>>747610509>kill turtle wow>steal everything>make the high elf race blueall according to plan.
>747610735funny how you never fault turtle for stealing blizzard's IP
>>747610509Not only is it still alive.>World of WARCRAFT FOREVERis going to revive blizzard.
>>747610509everything I heard about this game sounds like what I wanted WoW to be before fucking Cataclysm happened.Someone right in their head is in the control room
>>747610509>Call it Wowforever because blizzdrones are the biggest paypiggies and will play your game even on their death beds Wow is like the fentanyl of gaming
>>747610509I was vaguely interested until they said they're adding a new blue elf subrace to both horde and alliance
>>747611028uh oh, chang is mad that less people are playing his gacha
>>747610509Can someone explain why a game that looks like it's from 2006 is getting people excited
>>747611120>a game that looks like it's from (year when gaming was fucking amazing)
>>747611074That is honestly just a baffling decision. They were talking about how they wanted to preserve the classic flavour and aesthetic, and then the first thing they introduce is blue void elves with high res furry forms and a zone ripped straight out of Dragonflight. I get that people like Blood Elf models, but there are so many better ways they could have added them. It's a really bad sign of what is to come.
>>747611241I was born in 2006 so I don't care for your boomer takes.
>>747610735is there actually anything they added that wasnt inspired by turtle lmao?i guess maybe some of the dungeons and raids but otherwise theres a lot of copying going on
>>747611120maybe because games from 2006 mog the absolute fuck out of modern games
>>747611120WoW gave people hope on what MMOs could be.Then Burning Crusade happened and it was not what people expect but it was okay. WotL happened and it was incredibly mid.Then Cataclysm happened and half the community quit since it's not what WoW promised.WoW: Forever is promising the half that did quit and others who left after that it'll be different this time.
>>747611292and I don't care for your baby takes. so I guess we have nothing to offer each other.
>>747610509>killed the idea of classic+ being something worth waiting for/being excited for>proves any attempt at classic+ made by blizzard just boils down to more retail wearing the rotting hide of classicbased blizzard
>>747611284That is a great point, it really is the worst way they could have gone about this.
>>747611292>I was born in 2006
Don't care, shan't play the retail slop with modern graphics, animations and repurposed Kirian donut steel OC fanfic race shoved in by disgruntled Devs mad at players for mocking Shadowlands. Everything else they presented is just fucking lazy and soulless.
>>747610509>re-releasing the same game over and over>making a new expansion to wc3 instead of making wc4inb4 Diablo 5 is just them trying to disguise Diablo 2 into a new game and manage to make it worse
>>747611474>WAHHH WAHH CHANGES BAD, CHANGES LE RETAIL, AAHAHHH IT'S LE RETAILera is right there, andy
>>747611375WoW Forever is literally far more pozzed out of the box than retail was until at least like BfA.
>>747611542>you want classic and we gave you nothing like classic and now you don't want it? MAKE UP YOUR MIND!blizzard pays you shillbot farms too much (even if it's only a singular cent)
the transmog toggle is only there so they have a handwave when they release gaudy abominable microtransactions
>>747611638you mean the shit that literally is already being packed with the special goodboi paypig edition of forever?can't call a slippery slope when you're literally in the process of sliding down it
>Blue elvesThey're so tone-deaf its mind boggling. Expected though, since these are the tards who needed a petition and ex-devs to convince them to release classic servers in the first place
>>747610735>steal everythingI wish. Blizzard needs to start stealing.
>>747611490They could have done High Elves/Blood Elves, or Forsaken Elves. It's just so out of place and it makes me think Forever is going to devolve into retailslop really quickly and basically be indistinguishable from retail within a couple years. They are just doing a bait and switch to onboard classic players into what is ultimately just going to be retail 2.0.I will still probably play this garbage for a bit with friends, but I'm very cautious. If these blue elves are the very first new thing they introduce, imagine how bad it's going to get from here.
>>747610665>goodWhy do you lack basic pattern recognition? If everything current Blizzard has touch gone to shit (it has) and classic is the one good thing they have left (it isn't good, but that's another discussion), then it would stand to reason that any changes they make to it will only make it worse.
>close vanilla+ private servers people love (this will surely make players support us and flock to our turd)>blatantly copy many things from those private servers since everybody with any kind of creativity or IQ above 90 has left the company a decade ago>add low effort retoilet trash nobody asked for on top because that's all you can do>add ugly retoilet models that look completely out of place, horrible polygon count mismatch all over, also fucking fog>add phasing and sharding again because it was so well received in classic>completely kill world pvp with (((war mode)))>completely rape any semblance of class balance with retarded changes and additions and do it in the most brainlet way which just shows you have no idea about the game and listen to retards>blue blood elves on both factions because vanilla is all about pandering to troons and chinks>that'll be 150$ plus 30$ plus monthly fee plus microtransactionsDid I miss anything?
>>747610509Nigga the company is dead as dogshit, it is like 90% middle managers, HR, clueless nepotism hires and glownigger infiltrators who have 0 idea on how to make a game. The new games they announced are for fucking 2029 and 2030, as in, they're fucking praying people will forget or that they will find enough jeet hovels or filipino sweatshops to outsource 99% of the work to.Supposed niggillion dollar company cannot make new animations or train its art team to actually make classic looking assets or even make a new race because "it too much work bro" like where the fuvk does the fucking money go????
This Forever shit sure sounds like WoW 2. Reset everything back to vanilla, shed all the expansion baggage and then start adding new content to it. They might not call new content expansions but I'm sure there will be non-cosmetic shit locked behind one time payments just like the blue elves are
Meanwhile xiviggers are looking ahead to the future..
>>747611028LOL is fent. Wow is like...idk...opium or something. Addictive yes but outdated
>>747611091The reason Chang is mad is because recent tried to buy out wow during MoP in 2011 and there was such massive blowback that they all stopped playing the game LMAO. All the do is try to farm/sell gold and cheat video games for “soft power” because that’s what they are. Soft.
I might quit my job just to play and to get to max level n be first 100 to do it.
>>747612139>quit my jobdon't anon, you'll regret it
>>747612028when will they make 5 different versions of the game to service the entire community?
Blizzard will never make another great RTS - you won't get Warcraft 4 or Starcraft 3. Their company killed their own IPs so badly the only exciting part of Blizzcon was an inferior remake of their 22 years old MMO. They're pandering to balding nostalgic retards who cannot comprehend why WoW will never be good again.You will never be young again, carelessly enjoying games as a child. The community that made OG classic cannot be brought back. You will pay for botted gold or be left back in the dust by a buck broken community that minmaxes the fun out of everything. You will be a secondary citizen on your realm competing with a plague of streamers and their retarded fanboys and get banned by blizzard for ganking them. You will see million adverts for GDKP runs attended by paypigs.You will reroll your class or spec after 4 weeks when you realize the simcraft spergs calculated that your class does 6% less DPS on average therefore you won't get invited to anything. You will gaslight yourself that any of this is actually enjoyable.
>>747612234It's a fact no one has ever regretted quitting their job.
you will never be osrs
and you guys wonder why blizzard only make gay disney content
Classic+? More like Retail-
>>747612560bobby ripped a stinky one again
>>747612516How many of them are troons?
>>747612028You think Yoshi-P will ever get his dream crossover with WoW?
>>747610509Now that they have the stigma of "Classic" washed away they can ruin the game with a more egregious cash shop, gold buying, trannymog, terrible balance changes etc.
It sucks that the classic plus dream is dead.
>>747612002lmao
>>747610735The high elves and goblins of turtle were way better than the micro transaction sky elves
All the new additions they actually showed in some detail looked super uninspiring or like something straight out of retail.Like people forget classic had some really cool looking dungeons, raids and bosses. I can't say the same about what's being added in wow forever.
>>747613483>the game isn't even for you uncThat reminds me, I wonder what Jerma thinks of this. MadSeason hasn't said anything. In fact I don't think anyone cares about this really.
>>747613842>or like something straight out of retail.I wonder why.
private server poorfags cant afford 15$ a month
>try to sell Forever as a fresh start>this fresh start could have had High Elves, Amani Trolls, Ogres, Goblins, any of the races that had been around since the beginning>nah we better almost immediately ruin faction identity by adding a new type of Blood Elf to both sides
>>747614083>addition of blood elves widely regarded as the beginning of the end for classic>first thing blizzard does for "classic+" is add blood elves back in but blue
>>747614083That won't ever happen because it would require actual talent remodeling and retexturing every single armor piece in the game because new humanoid race means new skeleton for helmets, shoulders and belts. Best they can do is a shitty reskin of an already existing shitty retail model
>>747614083>>747614185The "high" elves would just use blood elf models with blue eyes and appeal to the same retarded audience, spelling the same doom TBC did.
>>747614328A whole hecking remodel and retexture.>the entire fucking game of WoW was created in less than 5 years
>>747614410Whether or not High Elves are bad from a gameplay perspective doesn't change that they're an OG Alliance race. They're basically the Poochie of non-playable races too because any time the Alliance military shows up to something they're ALWAYS part of it in some capacity.
>>747614512Yeah it's not actually that hard, but the thing is Blizzard had talented employees who loved gaming back then instead of troons and scamjeets and diversity hires who hate gaming
Time to move on with your life unc, WoW is never coming back.
>>747613993$15 in 2004 is roughly $26–27 in 2026 dollars. So Blizzard has effectively given WoW subscription a substantial price cut over its lifetime
>>747614524You're forgetting that they were either massacred or became mana junkies. Sure there are a few of them left but nowhere near enough to warrant adding them as a playable race.That's from the lore perspective. Gameplay-wise they would be absolutely disastrous for the faction and race balance and pservers like turtle proved it.
>>747610509>le blizzard not dead There's a dozen threads on /v/ at the moment talking about how much ass blizzard is eating right now. >le blizzard still alive Well, if you want to call that living.
>>747615004More than made up with microtransaction paypiggies, which didn't exist in 2004. Also, you'd keep the no lifers around if you bumped the monthly sub up to $25-30 but new players and casuals aren't touching the game at that price point. Showing growth is more important for (((shareholders))) than having the sub keep up with inflation.
>>747615009but then they give alliance void elves which are a small sect of high elves, way smaller than the high elf population. i always thought that was a bullshit excuse anyways. it's true the faction balance would have been skewed I still think they should have just went for it, regging the ogre model would have been more work but the buzz surrounding high elf alliance and ogre horde would have been a beautiful thing to behold. sky elves are really a blackmark on WoW forever
>Whitemane is voiced by Debra Wilson in the new WC3 campaign
>>747610509>.003 rupees have been deposited into your account
>>747611074Exactly the same story for me. Was watching all the shit, first time I had interest in WoW shit for many years, they they whip out a race that is made up on the spot and makes no sense and is a reskin that looks like it was rejected from retail and needed a home (and also gay). After that any hype I had instantly tanked.
>>747615009>So anyways here's Void Elves, of which there are in-lore like 20
because of people like me >:)
>>747615261Of course but you know you can simply just not buy the microtransactions :^)
>>747614512The new guard cannot create.Look at SoD, it was a hodgepodge of assets from other version. They actually bragged about getting to borrow the retail art team to create new class weapons.You can see in the Forever trailer that it's a ton of assets from Cata through Legion just ported over. It'll clash like hell with the vanilla world.
I'm only playing because there's no realms. When I played classic when it launched it was such a pain in the ass to find high level dungeons my server was dead and I quit.
>>747610509Let's see FFXIV's card...
>>747613883Jerma talked about it at the start of stream last night, he said hes going to be playing it
>>747616747i am so so so excited to watch jerma play wow again i just hope to god he doesn't get weirdos who name themselves after his dead dog following him around this time!
>>747616682I think it's doing pretty well.
are the raids 40 man?
>>747617390>he doesn't get weirdos who name themselves after his dead dog following him around this time!wtf did that actually happen?That's not funny like the guy who followed Asmon all stream named YWNBAW
>>747615009>night warriors>forsaken wielding the light>death knights who are extremely speshial unique snowflakes >tauren spiritwalkers>grimtotemjust off the top of my head. I can infer your political affilitation based on the fact that your brain is on airplane mode and you didn't think at all before you typed
>>747614707wdym "move on" this is basically a retirement home for uncs who played vanilla when it was current. They dont even play any other games than WoW.
>>747613993it's not the cost but what it does to the community. it creates this insufferable entitlement. retail fags are like karens who would wish to speak with the manager.
>>747615004Even though they never increased the price you have more retards subbing for 1 year at a time then quitting after 2 weeks compared to back in the day where most paid for only 2 months at a time through gametime cards. The subscription model is extremely lucrative today which is why every fucking platform is doing one.
>>747617584no, 10 or 20
>>747617584onyxia isthe other 21 raid bosses are either 10 or 20 manhave fun with the roster boss LOL
>>747618339>Only classic raid at launch is the lamest one they ever made
>>747618339Barrow Dens sounds so boring.It looks like trogg cave but huge.At least Molten Core had, you know, fire.Barrow Dens will have...ice. It's poetry. It rhymes.
>>747618339>they added dungeon/raid achievementsjust end it now
Retail enshittification>achievements3-4 years after launch>phasing~4 years after launch>quest helper5 years after launch>transmogrification7 years after launch>account wide 8 years after launch>Disneyfied character models10 years after launch>garishly colored "totally not high elf" blood elf oc donutsteel reskin race that rapes lore14 years after launch>ugly nu-wow UI overhaul18 years after launch>ugly mishmash of mobileslop nu-wow art assets with oldschool art assets8 to 18 years after launchWorld of Warcraft Forever enshittification>achievements0 days after launch>phasing0 days after launch>quest helper0 days after launch>transmogrification0 days after launch>account wide 0 days after launch>Disneyfied character models0 days after launch>garishly colored "totally not high elf" blood elf oc donutsteel reskin race that rapes lore0 days after launch>ugly nu-wow UI overhaul0 days after launch>ugly mishmash of mobileslop nu-wow art assets with oldschool art assets0 days after launch
>>747619389UHHH THEY'RE CALLED LEGACY CHALLENGES
>>747619453Thanks for letting me know that Forever has all the good shit from Retail.
>>747619539kek when did dungeons become 'legacy' like they became obsolete technology or something.
>>747619563Thanks for letting me know you're a retail player.
>>747619389>lf3m Barrow Deeps need 3 heals pst link challenge
>>747619762just toggle it off bro
>>747610509>this is how /v/ makes threads now
>>747619613its because it gives your other characters bonuses now, the legacy is your account
how is raiding never done a raid in my life just dungeons in retail.
I only care about content I can do with my small handful of friends.
>>747611028Yeah, it is.Pretty apt analogy actually.Still better than Persona at the least.
How crowded is the TBC classic PvE server after the Forever announcement?I'm in the mood for TBC but I'm not competing over zeppelin debris or ravager eggs with a packed server.Hate megaservers. I was hoping like a third of them vanished with this Forever announcement to wait to go plague that.
>>747620209You gather a group of retards then run a more difficult dungeon with bosses that are usually very punishing if you don't answer their mechanics properlyIt can be pretty fun with a group of decent people, far less so if you get either autistic or people that are too retarded to walk away with a bomb after getting targetted
>>747620209do LFR. real raiding is easier
>>747619673you niggers all pay the same sub but act high and mighty funding each others game
>>747620209vanilla raids are so easy the boss fights take 30 seconds
>>747620419TBC server just opened tier 6, so there's not gonna be a lot of alts
>>747620615For the average gamer that's really only true for Onyxia and Molten CoreBWL AQ40 and Naxx have some friction at least
>>747611293literally the whole thing was they hired four indians to play ascension and turtle for 3 months, gather a bunch of info on the servers from the four employees and then mash them both together for wow forever and then called it a day and just let the cattle do what cattle does best.
Retail, Turtle Wow and Ascension are all completely different games yet somehow Forever is identical to all of them at the same time depending on who you are talking to.
>>747615009>Sure there are a few of them left but nowhere near enough to warrant adding them as a playable race."Wow, good thing this small enclave of High Elves managed to hide away and avoid the massacre, am I right fellas?
>>747611474yep
>>747616074oink oink
>>747621084If the person you are talking to has never played turtle or ascension then it's the same thing to them.
What happened to "You think you want it but you don't"? Turns out there was enough want to warrant multiple of these "You think you want it but you don't" releases
>>747620615they would not be easy if people didn't have 20 years of autism metagaming preparing them ahead of time, plus addons
>>747621334You just exposed >>747611293 >>747620946 these 2 poser posters KEK
>>747620615If they go the SoD route with raids like Scarlet Enclave they'll actually end up not casual easily and genuinely hard at points
>>747610509all of you are going to die of old age and natural causes before WoW dies.
>>747621425>What happened to "You think you want it but you don't"?he was rightbecause forever has literally nothing to do with classic, and everything people have asked for since classic released was to make it less classic
>>747621775>and everything people have asked for since classic releasedWho are these "people" Raj
My only issue with forever was the abysmal choice of adding blue blood elves, literally should of just did goblin mercenaries as a neutral faction that joins either or
>>747621907No one plays ugly races
>>747620419Going to be DOA, can't imagine going into BT and farming glaives for someone
what's the forever part?what happens after the new stuff is done?never playing it because of blue elves but i'm still curious
>>747621939why haven't you killed yourself yet?
>>747621975They plan to release new content perpetually probably in mirror to the actual content released in original. We'll have to see where they take it when it reaches its TBC equivalent.
>>747621459how so? when i look at Forever, it really just looks like twow and ascension.
>>747621995That'd be a sin
>>747621939kys coomer waifufaggot.
>>747622104Stats dont lie bro
>>747621939i'm a fan of female blood elf rogue's general animation flow and their stealth animations
>>747620209the most boring shit ever it is unironically paying to have a job>you HAVE to be on at this time and you HAVE to stay on till we are done >you HAVE to farm enough gold to have your raid consumables and it also is a net loss on gold since you make no money.>you HAVE to do this every week until the items everyone needs drop and have fun rolling against others when the item finally drops oh and have fun when that item NEVER drops again >enjoy doing the same shit over and over and over again and if a few people fuck up guess what you get to start all over again.
>>747622228they are extremely ill fitting for the aesthetic of vanilla.
>>747621425>What happened to "You think you want it but you don't"?Well it happened. We got regular vanilla. We can still go play vanilla whenever we want now.
>>747612002And yet it’s still here. Every release, every new patch or season even you giddily proclaim it’s over, clap and cavort like a fucking seal that blizz has finally died yet they keep making buckets of cash, they keep making games, and Microsoft threw a fortune worth more than the gdp of most countries at them. You are such a colossal retard it’s unreal
>>747622360the "dying" here refers to in spirit, dignity and soul you fucking retard. obviously they arent dead as a company because they are still on the stock exchange
>>747622160Highly confounded by classes btw
>>747620209Classic raids are braindead easy, only challenge is if your trying to parse in the 99+ which ends up being 80% skill and 20% group comp
>>747612002Buzzword posts like these should be euthanized from having opinions
PUT WOW ON STEAM YOU INBRED FUCKS
>>747611375>WoW: Forever is promising the half that did quit and others who left after that it'll be different this time.Filled with gays and propaganda this time.
>>747610509/v/ is never right
>>747622328This is all fun if you like a few of your guildies
>>747622791literally who fucking cares? what difference does that make?
>>747619128You cannot possibly be defending Molten Core. That raid is completely fucking ass
>>747623012some of us have lives, anon.
boss when
>>747619128Tourist opinion
>>747623130I want to show off my hours
>>747622334only if they're blue
QRD, what is WoW Forever?
>>747610735>steal from people who stole from youSounds fair to me.
>>747623404just some new branch of retail WoW
>>747623404Classic with extra bits.
>>747611293>Turtle invented adding new quests and rewards to old zones
>>747623404wow classic plus plus
>>747611292lol sucks to be you
>>747623481>wow classic plus plusdear god, I remember back in 2019 or whenever Classic came out and I spent it telling people how if they kept changing stuff and not dealing with gold selling bots we would get retail 2.0 and here we are. I was right again.>change should be slow and controlled.
>>747611293Not having a shitty pay to win cash shop. Also less ESL faggots
>>747611292Jannies ban the underage poster now!
So in 2 years when they run out of new zones and instance locations, you realize they're going to default back to the retail pattern right?Random island in the ocean with a new race.Followed by a smaller patch with a smaller island with catch-up gear.Followed by teleporting you somewhere that doesn't exist on Azeroth to kill a cosmic god like Return of C'thun.Prepare for island boogaloo.
>>747623404was hyped up as classic+it ended up being retail-
>>747624286>So in 2 yearsI'll be waiting for Wow Forever Classic
northrend was gay. I hope they remake it from scratch (lol)
>1 year later after the pop is totally gine>"Forever was just an experiment. We see you, we hear you and we are compiling your feedback for the TRUE future of WoW">WoW Forever 2 with green preorder elves announced
>>747624286are you saying this is like a good thing or a bad thing
>>747624734>not Forever Classic1 (one) FUCKING JOB
>>747624286nigger they're opening with a sky island, we're starting with island boogaloo
damn, i was actually excited a little bit during reveal and then the typical nuBlizzard garbage started creeping innone of the fucking streamers mentioned the new race being paylocked behind $30 lmao then the preorder transmog, the preorder mounts, the fucking cinematic having "le chungus bear and dorf" moment ... the fucking message being so PRO CHUD GAMER when they literally ran a whole LGBT in-game event months ago that nobody wanted, now suddenly they're all in tune with everythingwhat the fuck are we doing as a gaming community?at this point i might bing bing wahoo my life away i'm fucking tired of this shit
>>747625125>they literally ran a whole LGBT in-game event months agoThey added over 1000 new quests to WoW Forever.You know like 100 of those are getting new buttplugs for Miguel's husband.
>>747625125>new race being paylocked behind $30 lmaothis is good because less people will play them.this is bad when they add actual good races.
>blizzard is dead >wow is deadlolol two more weekshaters coping forever
>>747622834that's just libflation.At the end of the day, WoW Forever is literally like a toxic ex telling his partner he's sorry and he'll change.
>>747625125>damn, i was actually excited a little bit during reveal and then the typical nuBlizzard garbage started creeping innone of the fucking streamers mentioned the new race being paylocked behind $30 lmaothen the preorder transmog, the preorder mounts, the fucking cinematic having "le chungus bear and dorf" moment ... the fucking message being so PRO CHUD GAMER when they literally ran a whole LGBT in-game event months ago that nobody wanted, now suddenly they're all in tune with everythingwhat the fuck are we doing as a gaming community?at this point i might bing bing wahoo my life away i'm fucking tired of this shit
>>747625125it's just a videogame, man
>>747625443I can't imagine caring about any of this.>HURRR NEW RACE IS 30$!!! kinda like TBC lol
