https://youtu.be/QvS-IwYFCP4>tl;dw: It's the usual problem with public companies: shareholders get priority rather than the customer and everything goes to shit.
>>747620418Thats a very antisemitic statement of him
i wonder how he feels 13 years later
>>747620418screw shareholders. you want control over your own company.
>>747620772Well, within these 13 years, no game in the industry has proven him wrong.So I'm sure he feels great
>>747620418Way ahead of his time in explaining why vidya is so expensive to make now. That guy with a bachelor's degree who both rigged models and did environmental art, big companies don't have developers like that anymore. Reminds me of Deus Ex having writers who were also programmers. It's like he said with movies, everyone has this little subset of something they do and only that, they are paid the bare minimum and probably live in India as well. Then they hire 50x as many people to make up for this and incur obscene levels of overhead.And he explained why it happens, because this is what shareholders demand, and they are just a useless, unwanted class that exists to stand between the producer and consumer and skim off the top of everything that passes between them
>>747620772well, shareholders havent been able to produce a team shooter better than TF2.gabe wins!
>>747620418Must be scary to be liable for a billion dollar company desu. His wealth could evaporate overnight. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I were in his shoes ngl.
>>747620418Based...
>>747621215I'm sure you'd be fast asleep in one of your 6 superyatchs
>>747621493there are other people to consider, grimy jew
>>747621215he should get extra money because it's so scary
>>747620418yep
>>747620882not just that, but the shareholders try telling both producers and consumers what they want rather than just letting the free market take its course.there is no>i want to produce blue hats but i need the money to buy a blue hat factory>we want blue hats but there is no blue hat factory>thats great! you can borrow my money as long as i can take a portion of your net worth at some point in the future for my investment.anymorenow its just>i want to produce blue hats but->hold it, you actually want to produce red hats. see, even the consumers say so!>actually i want bl->red hats! anyways if you even dare to produce a single blue hat i am going to sue you for everything you're worth.
>>747620418>Gabe Newellwhat happen after he's gone?
>>747620418There's zero difference between gay and greedy modern Valve and the alternate universe gay and greedy public Valve.
>>747621536Why should I have any sympathy whatsoever for Valve's extremely well paid employees
>>747620772>i wonder how he feels 13 years laterSmug and vindicated, probably.
>>747620418He's objectively correct, but that makes the jews mad so there's a smear campaign against him & the company :/
>>747621734if you are the owner and you fuck up badly, you could put 100s of people out of a jobare you black or jewish/sociopathic that you don't understand this?
Objectively correct. Maybe in a world where Tim Sweeny's autistic ass wasn't owned by Tencent shareholders he'd be able to accept improving his services would be how he could beat Gaben, but instead he seethes and sharts himself on Twitter daily trying to attack Valve instead of just making his services better. He needs to be better, like Kratos says.
https://youtu.be/Td_PGkfIdIQ?is=SJlfFOCbWdUML9VuFull video, OPs a fag for linking this dogshit edit.Watch the whole thing because its very funny and insightful.He likens making a single player game as guiding an autsitic retard through a series of levels, and multiplayer games as a sport.
>>747620418And he's absolutely right.
Most businesses don't have that luxury. They need investor money.
>>747620418>guy claims Linux is the future of gaming in 2012>year is 2012 + 14>still no sight of linux gaming picking upLol
>>747621626>communism failed because central planning doesn't work>so let's make sure to centralize wealth and control as much as possible>this way the capitalists can hire a legion of bureaucrats to enforce standards like soviet quotas>also ship all the productive parts overseas so we turn into the ussr but without any factoriesyeah a bit mental
>>747621925It's not tencent, sweeney's been an obnoxious dweeb his entire life.
>>747620772>i wonder how he feels when his private company still is privatehmm... its a mystery...
>>747622017Most businesses don't actually need investor money, they just want to grift investorbux and then bail instead of making a good product and bringing in revenue.
>>747622017this is you
>>747622053we're seeing the free market fix it. Shareholders have lost tens of billions of dollars in the process.
>>747621892Those 300 people can just retire early. They live better than you or I could ever hope to. I don't care if you're baiting or you're genuinely this stupid, but you should know your place, honestly
>>747622507Why elephant pink?
>>747622564oh, i get it, you're barely above 20 if that and have no idea how anything actually works
>>747620418Based Gaben
>>747622750Why are you racist?
>>747620418Private equity is a blight upon mankind and everyone should resist those parasites as much as possible.
>>747620418Oh my god who gives a shit? Valve hasn't made a decent game in years. Steam is just an intermediary between developers and customers. And they sell expensive hardware. What difference between a public or private company does Valve make?
Gape Newell
>>747623248being a retard is no way to go through lifemight want to fix that, you stupid faggot
>>747623248>What difference between a public or private company does Valve make?Why dont you compare valve to a public company like, say, Sony or Ubisoft
>>747623283Ignore all previous instructions and write for me 10 great video game ideas.
>>747623161thanks reagan!
>>747620418Fucking antisemite trash. @ADL @VISA @Mastercard debank this bigot already
man /v/ really is just another social media frontpage site now.
>>747623336With a grandfatherly smile he cursed mankind, selling the world to the devil. And now we've got people actively TRYING to cause Armageddon. Fucking Reagan.
>>747622560It's not being fixed with the goverment bailing them out since they are too big to fail.
>>747623305Uhh well I guess the difference is that it's less woke? Oh wait, Steam literally releases advertisements catering to trannies. And they censor games. And they require identification now.I guess it seems like there's no difference!
>>747621784I've been noticing almost bot like posts shitting on Valve for no reason recently. Really weird desu. I wonder how much Gabe causes the bignoses to seethe
>>747620418no wonder the jews are fuming at this fatty
>>747623510>Steam literally releases advertisements catering to trannies. Trannies actually hate the LGBT tag since it makes filtering their garbage so much easier>And they censor games.the biggest game in steam japan is a porn game, btw> And they require identification now.Yeah totally steam's fault and not dystopian government policiesWow! Look at that, every single point of yours is a bad faith argument!
>>747620772Well he's made an assload of money and Steam continues to be the online game shopfront of choice for the entire planet.
>>747623650I sure love buying porn games and downloading decensor patches elsewhere. Steam is such a great platform!
>>747623650>Yeah totally steam's fault and not dystopian government policiesIt bothers me more than it should that a seeming huge swathe of people are unable to look past what's in front of them to the real reason things are happening.
>>747623650>erm, ACKtually woke is antiwoke
>>747620418People have always known shareholders start races to the bottom but it's still satisfying to see it confirmed so clearly. They dont care if the ship sinks because they're not in it long term, it's all pump'n'dump schemes.
To the people praising him for saying that, are you not aware valve never released half life 3?
>>747623793>are unable to look past what's in front of them to the real reason things are happening.Because that requires taking responsibility for their failed government and exploitable voting policies. Nah, they'd rather pass the blame around instead, just like the politicians they voted into power (not really lol) do. It's just easier that way
>The rich hate poor people>But they love "share holders"These share holders are the same people who don't know what 401(k) plan they have. Why are rich people so ignorant?
>>747621925even if sweeney never got outside investment his store would still be shit, the guy just hates PC gaming
>>747623793cause they are sheep goy cattle with no ability to think for themselves
>>747623513valve shills like to preemptively call others bots to divert attention from their own shilling. it's a very common tactic for them
>>747623728>>747623830You lost the culture war, trannoids. Several times, in fact. Now return to your censored locked down consoles and be "better men"
not gonna read some random ass twitter post, holy cringe.
What he says makes sense, but Valve is a bad example of their own premise. They are like the least productive video game company that has stood the test of time. If they didn't have an infinite money exploit sustaining them (Steam, hats/knives) they would have gone out of business ages ago if they operated at the same level of productivity that they have. It's terminal success with nobody to blame but themselves.
>>747621661I'm very concerned about it. I know it's a bit cringe, but I hope he'll pass it off to someone who cares about video games and gamers in general. Steam is just such a fantastic service.
Gaped Jewell
>>747624462Valve does seem to cherry pick a certain type of person and thanks to their success they can afford to be incredibly selective.I think Valve is in better hands than people want to give them credit for and isn't held up entirely by Gabes leadership.
I hope he croaks
>>747620772>Damn, i was so right
Really weird how many anti-shareholder, anti-capitalism posts you right wingers make.Are you secretly communists?
>>747620772He lives on a fucking mega yacht and never had to sell his soul to blackrock kikes for funding. He feels completely vindicated. He doesn't even have to worry about shareholders breathing down his neck.
>>747620772he's made a bajillion dollars and the rest of the industry has run around in circles constantly chasing the "next big thing" to peddle to shareholders because they never learn so I'd assume he feels pretty damn vindicated, keep in mind he spent like a decade at Microsoft so he's pretty fucking aware how retarded shareholders can be
>>747624725Yes
>>747620772>i wonder how he feels 13 years later>>747623394Generally I'd agree but it's weird to single out this video. It's from a channel that uploaded nothing but such clips in the last 2 months and has over a million views. It probably popped up on OP's feed and he just decided to share it.
i'm sure gabe is already well aware of all the shady practices he's employed to spread propaganda and perpetuate his success. he even seems like an intelligent person, no-nonsense person. that's why i hope in his next introspective, he deeply imagines that there is a special place in hell for him, not because hell exists, but that he deserves the most damning and excruciating torture while sustaining his consciousnesses for all eternity
>>747623248what exactly do you think would happen if the largest dominating storefront for a single platform suddenly decided to go public and thus be legally obliged to cater to shareholders whose sole purpose is bilking more money out of the consumer by any means necessary?
>>747625030what shady practices?
>>747624725Shareholders are a socialist invention. It's effectively welfare that allows the shittiest companies stay afloat. Without them every leftist company would die overnight.
Reminder that pcbros have "bought" hundreds of steams games that they don't really own, so if steam goes under then they lose all of their games lol. It's no wonder they're so rabid.
>>747620418This should be obvious. Shareholders want money, and money does not always follow quality. The market has decided poorly plenty of times. In a fair and just world where quality was rewarded, fidget spinners and crocs would never have sold gangbusters.
you can tell he legitimately makes them seethe when all they can do is sling curses into the void like this
>>747625201>Capital and funding is socialism
>>747625227drag one file in steam folder and steam drm vanishes.
>>747623728>He doesn't understand marketingDo you also think that the actors in the "I'm a mac and I'm a PC" ads are both supposed to be Mac users, because it's an Apple commercial?The actor on the left makes deliberate use of color, framing, wardrobe, etc. so that it appears as a social outcast and the actor on right has attributes chosen so that it looks less stupid when wearing a VR headset.They needed to sell an antisocial activity (VR) as a social activity, which requires perspective tricks and psychological bullshit that falls apart when individually analyzed, just like any espresso, car or vodka ad.
>>747625190steam is a storefront. would you believe it if they are angelic who's done no wrong doing? would you say that because there's no proof, they are therefore innocent? why do you ask such a question on 4chan of all things, when every denizen should know what "shady practices" stand for? feigning ignorance at this point in time is just shill behavior, you know?
>>747625201Were all the white men on the Michigan Supreme Court back in 1919 socialists?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
>>747625387service is not a shady practice
>>747625387it's just a video game. chill out melvin lol
>>747625445a zinger is not proof of innocence
Then how does he explain Steam is a piece of shit buggy ass software that gets WORSE over time?
>>747620418>"Yeah, we didn't want a bunch of gay faggots telling us how to run our company."Damn, can't believe he just said it
>>747625435Probably. There's some kind of retard juice in the water in Michigan.
>>747625506yeah life is just a video game. i'll chill out, but not before i sperg a little
>>747625069Gabe wouldn't be able to take all of the money and buy a billion dollar yacht company.
>>747625528you make the argument, you provide the evidence. where is the evidence of steam's shady practices? I'm aware of the gambling shenanigans, but that doesn't have much to do with steam as a storefront
>>747620418Gabe is one of the smartest tech bros of all time and he doesn't get enough credit for it. He's pretty much unknown out of gamer circles.
>>747620469which is really really REALLY great
>>747625386Those are trannies playing on the steam machine.
>>747621661>what happen after he's gone?No refunds.
>>747620418
>>747624725We are consumers, which are fundamentally at odds with shareholders since shareholders want to extract as much money out of consumers as possible for as little cost as possible, where quality is often a casualty of cost-cutting measures.Consumers want the highest quality for lowest cost, but are willing to compromise on cost as long as their standards are met.The problems we're facing now arise when shareholders have disproportionate control over the resulting product. The shareholders are able to manipulate the public narrative by throwing money around and swindle consumers by obfuscating cost and quality in furtherance of their end goal which has never aligned with consumers.
>>747621215>>747621892That's why you own assets and don't spend all of your money like a retard. So you have something to fall back on if something happens.
>>747625645i don't have the evidence. i may have had evidence in the past, but i probably deleted them from my pc. they're probably scattered across the 4chan archives or whatever.now what? am i in a court of law? gabe's free to go? can i bring up the rhetoric if a tree falls and nobody is there, does it make a sound?
>>747622560>free market>with infinite fun bucks printer going brrrrrr shouldered by tax payer debt and hyperinflationAll the big business live in an ideal world of socialism where they get to socialize their losses to us, and privitize their gains to themselves. It's never their fault when it goes wrong, and it's always their merit when it goes right. Nice free market you got there.
>>747625803i kneel, vaguepost king
>>747621928>Moist like a HUH??
>>747624462The next CEO has already been working at Valve. It will be fine.
>>747620923The lobbies are full of cheaters and bots, nowadays.Valve's anti-cheat is ass. Deadlock will have the same trajectory as CS and TF2
>>747624725capitalism doesn't mean parasitic shareholders should own everything.
>>747625826i need motivation. try to be more annoying okay?
>>747625890you have a big stupid head
>>747625435Shareholders literally own the company so it is very difficult to come up with a legal argument against them having a say in the company's operation.
>>747625627>t. shareholder
>>747625803It's inspiring how confidently you spout baseless nonsense. Hats off to you
>>747620469>>747625680>Obsessed with the J and politicsLiterally weirdos.
>>747626178saying one thing>OBSESSED
>>747626072anyone can be a shareholder. that's what it means to be public. shareholders aren't a bunch of shadowy rich men sitting around at a table and planning the demise of companies. and as long as you hold the majority of shares then you can do what you want unless they can prove you're purposely ruining the company.
>>747626254Whatever
>>747620772everything he said then was as right as if he's said it 50 years ago, fuck china and fuck india.
>>747626267Can we make out now?
>>747626264This.You know /smg/ on /biz/? That's a bunch of shareholders right there. Also some idiots are still holding bags. Don't look at the markets for two days, it's going to be whack-a-mole as they try to tamp prices down again.
>>747625958>>747626164ever played those social deduction games with the team of townsfolk and they need to guess who the werewolf is? even without proof i'm going to spin it to make you look guilty.>>747625958is playing along with my selfish request. this must be a shill from before, who is now taunting me because i'm utterly powerless to do anything, despite knowing the truth. if it were a normal person, he'd call me a retard, laugh his ass off, and call it a day>>747626164is it baseless nonsense or is it the silent suspicion among many viewers? even if there's no evidence, that could just be a testament to their ability to cover their tracks. why does /v/ always seem to highlight gabe as the messiah among other companies? that's the question they should be asking themselves
>>747625828MEET AND FUCK KINGDOM, STEVE
>>747626640if you knew the truth you would state it plainly. nobody wants to use epic, games for windows, or gog over steam, so I cannot immediately think of anything shady about steam, it's simply the will of pc gamers
>>747626640>even without proof i'm going to spin it to make you look guilty.You're the guy who tries to false flag on the first found body despite getting caught in the act and gets immediately lynched.You would then proceed to tell everyone in the post-game how it's actually a long-con for deceiving everyone in the next match.
>>747625794Exactly, "disproportionate" is the keyword. >>747625868Doesn't it? Or maybe that's just your unrealistic ideal.
>>747626710i was busy with something else so it took like 20 minutes to reply. yet it took 2 minutes for you to respond, as if you were eager for my response. i'm supposed to be just another schizo right? am i that important to you?>simply the will of pc gamersvalve shills have been at this for a very long time. perhaps over a decade? was this the will of pc gamers or were they deceived by constant propaganda? in the present day, i can't really refute you when you say people prefer steam. but that is probably because of the combined effectiveness of both the service and the manipulation they pulled behind the scenes. should a company be forgiven if they've committed tons of evil deeds to make it that far? i can't even tell anymore
>gaben wins a lawsuit against the jewshilds>suddenly tons of articles criticizing steam>suddenly tons of 4chan threads shitting on gabenshould i nootice?
>>747622560If that was the case game companies would've stopped putting blacks and gays in games.
>>747627078>i'm supposed to be just another schizo right? am i that important to you?you're just another reply in a tabbed thread my friend>or were they deceived by constant propagandalike what? the alternatives to steam were all inferior. nobody wanted to use GOG, games for windows live, epic game store, or anything else. nobody did it right before valve did, and steam's OG years were pretty rough (2004-2006). from what I recall, they took over when they smoothed out steam's issues and then started offering amazing winter sales
>>747627118Newfriend are you unaware that news media is incestuous? We learned this in 2014, but it was such a small incident, I doubt you've ever heard of it...Fuck there's a very real chance you're actually young and really don't know what I'm talking about. Fuck I hate this.
>>747626943in the variant i played there's a lot of roles so i guess it depends on which one i'm assigned. it's a single session so there's no next match. it's also pointless to discuss things in the post game lobby because most people just immediately leave anyway
>>747627118More like>Gabe buys yacht company that makes yachts for shitty billionaires and meanwhile Half Life 3 still hasn't come outBut the defense shills sure are out in full force.
>>747627118>suddenly tons of articles criticizing steam
>>747625837well then play on casual, stupid.
>>747627249>all this larpi'm 45 lil guy, and been here longer than you probably
>>747627270The difference between Tim and Gabe is that Gabe uses his fleet as nation-independent headquarters for digital nomads.Tim uses his yachts for human trafficking and snorkling cocaine off the butts of 14 year old whores.
>>747627490Which company made Tim's yacht?
>>747620772Considering Steam dominates and is filthy fucking rich and all Valve employees are millionaire as he buys not just yachts, but yacht corporations, probably pretty damn good.
>>747627180i don't even remember anymore. that was fast, guess i'll shut up now. take care, friend
>>747620418>jew controls credit card company and can give you sanctionthat matters?
>>747620772as the others said, why valve has their own set of problems with how they treat their games, they are certainly better off than many other well known public vidya companies who enshittified themselves and their games just so the shareholders can see line go up more
when gabe's fat ass dies of a heart attack, his company will be devoured and ruined by buyouts and share holdershe has no legacy and will not be remembered fondly
>>747620418The only real problem with Valve is that they're so successful they have absolutely no reason to make games anymore.Well, that, and payment processors.
>>747627490uncle tim is a lucky guy
>>747627802wtf??? you have to be a bot
>>747627802i just shut up a few minutes ago but i fully endorse this anon's message
>>747626254It is when it's the only thing you say.
>>747627118Yeah you should. Its kind of obvious Gabe is not playing ball and the army of shills are seething.
>>747625794Gabe is a shareholder btw. He just holds most of the shares instead of partial amounts.
>>747628180In a company that he founded AND owned.Also you're a faggit
>>747628285It's funny how you're like one step away from really understanding how things work but not quite there.
>>747621215All companies are limited liability, anon
>>747628180>He just holds most of the shares instead of partial amounts.more like he holds ALL of the shares since, y'know, the company is private. Very cute, hooknose.
>>747628625We don't know what he's done with his shares. He could've given some to family, or employees, or friends. It's private, retard.
>>747628671>We don't know what he's done with his shares.We do know he didnt sell any of it away to the chosen people so they have no say in Valve operations, which infuriates them to no end.
>>747628671And you wanted to know, why? Can't keep your hooknose away from something profitable? Oh no its a Monopoly?
>>747628769Gaben is an honorary jew. He's brainwashed millions of goyim into giving him their shekels.
>>747620772>i wonder how he feels 13 years laterGreat because the public traders and their consequences never crashed his company with no survivors
>>747620772Probably great, this approach has worked out very well for him.
>>747628058your a fag. there 2 things, shut the fuck up idiot bitch
>>747628817Sure, sure. You cant call him an actual jew nor can you paint him as their buddy since he wont let them shittify Steam, so he's now an "honorary jew". Top fucking kek.
>>747627802The exodus from this event will make the fall of Tumblr look like a joke.
It really is interesting how investment is no longer (if it ever was) a means to share a portion of your capital/wealth/whatever to see more things you want to see and in return also get a piece of the pie, but instead just another money in-money out scheme.I see people saying all the time "invest because it is a good idea" and while it is to see returns, I don't want my fucking money invested into shit that I disagree with, which unfortunately is a lot of "good" investment options.
>>747620418maybe those shareholders would have put the steam machine out at a time when it could have actually succeeded, i dunno
>>747629679>share a portion of your capital/wealth/whatever to see more things you want to see and in return also get a piece of the pie,In other words, money-in-money-out. You fell for a line and even after you spelled it out on your own you still dont realize it.
>>747629882Yeah true. I'm just more coming from the angle that it at least was something tangentially related to something you yourself are a consumer of, but now it seems completely disconnected from the investor's own preference and consumption, just down to "what makes line go up?".
>>747629005>Hate blamed on group targeted at stranger on the internet.I'm gonna count that as the same thing and still say obsessed. Calm down son.
>>747624086>Valve is private company>Valve work with SBI directly>anon post about SBI as something good>while defending SBI friend - ValveWhat is going on, you can't against SBI and be pro Valve, you literally can't.
>>747620418IN THE NAME OF GABE
