I pre-ordered CE, so yeah I'm excited. Hopefully I'll be able to avoid spoilers for the first few days since it won't come on release day.

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>>747630348

Why is this Switch 2 exclusive though??

>>747630348
how do i watch the video on pc...

>>747631816
Why would it not be? Switch 1 had trouble running Engage and 3H.

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What are people saying that have the game already? I know it's got the sim stuff, like three houses. But are the maps/core gameplay at least Engage maddening level?

I want good core gameplay too not just Persona emblem.

>>747632136
They're saying it's a return to form and they're having a blast

>>747632136
>Engage maddening
FW doesn't have Maddening yet, why compare it to Engage maddening?

>>747630842
If you watched trailers, character splotlights or the direct, you already got spoiled anyway

>>747632254
I guess not literally maddening, i just want good maps.

>>747631816
the switch 1 only has 4 GB of shared memory. that's why it runs on utter potatoes when emulated

my first route will be Cai

>>747632254
both games are made by ISIS unlike KT making 3H

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>Ike and Soren are GAY!
What's your evidence?
>They have an ENDING!
Marcus and Merlinus have an ending together, are they gay?
>NO NO NO but...Soren is broken and lonely! He clings to Ike for acceptance!
That's called friendship. Ike shows no interest in him.
>But...but...but...YOU'RE JUST A BIGOT
There is a literal direct descendant that looks like Ike, talks like Ike, runs a mercenary band like Ike, and has Ike's literal sword named Priam
>NO THAT COULD BE MIST'S (despite not sharing one quality with her even though this game is fiction and we overly obsession about physical qualities that can be linked back to the parent)
...right

>>747631735
that's a huge penis shadow

why is there never an option to let my units wear their class headgear
give them hats!

>page 10
>16 posts
FE is dead, FW killed it...

>>747635682
>he doesn't know

>>747630348
Thanks shill-kun!

>>747635682
The hype... is gone.

Fodlanbros I don't feel at home here. The women all obsess over status and crests and your family's political power. I like board games, food and alcohol. Where can I go that I would feel more at home at?

>>747636820
crestless post

>>747637053
>go to dagda
>the crestless boy has his crush stolen by the crest-owner with half-nabatean blood

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A FIRE EMBLEM THREAD ?
ON /V/ ????

>>747630348
It’s like a compressed version of the direct, opening with the avatar portion first tho.
Still crazy to me they haven’t announced DLC yet. I guess when comparing to newer stuff on Switch 2, they don’t do that anymore, only post release.

>>747630348
JP site also got updated
https://www.nintendo.com/jp/games/switch2/aacsa/character/index.html

>>747637147
SWEEP US, EMBLEM OF MODERATION
THEODORA THE JANITOR

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>>747637503

Is there a list of playable characters and route-locked characters yet?

When are the reviews out?

>>747632483
This is an RPG emblem, not an SRPG emblem.

Unless you purposefully gimp yourself during the world map section, the game is going to be extremely easy, even on the hardest difficulty. You cannot have both engaging strategy gameplay and engaging RPG gameplay.

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>>747637457
I wonder why Maria is in others, wasn't she part of Leda's team?

>>747630348
Why make it so woke?

>>747640270
Holy shit you retards are outdated

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Kiroika (CV: Shunsuke Todo)
The former leader of the notorious Black Swan Pirates, known by the epithet "Monster Bird."
Before visiting Dagsion, he had a dispute with Talimun, the head of the Vandal Trading Company, and harbors a grudge against him.
● Likes: Plundering everything, piracy, the sea, ships, his subordinates

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Thoughts on the popularity of FW characters based on Twitter likes?

>>747640391
>the highest male characters are the fodlanchads
lol

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>*makes fragile brownoids froth*

>>747630348
Disgusting

>>747640391
Jasmine has too many likes for a hog

>>747640354
>Also lost his boat
People keep saying Persona, but this new FE sounds more like Ys.

>>747637147
Better delete it

>>747639605
They are making female characters ugly on purpose now

>>747640640
To be fair, the male characters are somehow worse.

I am going to bench every single male black/brown character. Except for Goliath, he seems cool, but the rest are hitting the bench for the entire game.

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>>747640902
>Except for Goliath, he seems cool

>>747640640
She's an old hag. Old people aren't ever attractive.

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>>747640902
>>747641085
He mogs.

>>747633249
is it fun to argue with creations of your own mind?

>>747641245
Reina exist
Also just don't make her a hag

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>>747640478
>temporary recruit
its over...

>>747641567
Nyooooooooooooooooo!!!

>>747641567
Similar with Castor in Cai's thing.

>>747641567
Shouldn't have doubted the drunk journo anon.

PIRAAAAAATES
BOAT MAAAAAAPS
DARROSCHADS, GEESECHADS, DARTCHADS
WE /PIRATE/ NOW

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>leda was very literal when she said she was going to cut out bertrand's heart

>>747630348
I've been ignoring most news on the game so I can go in somewhat blind, I just need to decide if I want to get it on release or wait to see if I can get a used copy for like $60.

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i love leda!

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was going to order a copy but why the fuck is it so expensive

>>747641840
Olympia...

>>747641840
>mu
>"i could have been having ultand's chicken tendies with cai, tialla and peter right now"

>>747630348
Goddamn, that looks fucking gay.

Really looks like too many systems and game modes for a Fire Emblem game.

>>747641840
Mu continues her streak of looking concerned for her own safety in every cutscene she shows up in.

>>747640354
DUDE STEALING

>>747640135
>You cannot have both engaging strategy gameplay and engaging RPG gameplay.
The shit you people say. What made you into such a zealot?

>>747641840
I have 0 hopes for Leda as a character, she seems like she is just going to be a muh revenge focused character

>>747637147
>A Metroid thread died for this thread

What gives??

>>747641840
>Such lust for revenge...

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>>747642348
The way her story is structured, I think it'll be less about her being interesting and more how everyone else around her reacts to her slowly going more and more insane with her revenge obsession. I don't care much for Leda either, but I sure am intrigued to see how Buccar and Mu deal with Leda's crazy ass.

Also if Sirocco is going to be like her enabler, continuing to push her along her destructive path.

>>747641779
I wonder if it's possible to get a satisfying ending while leaving her to die as a Balor puppet. All of her crew will go back to the future if possible, so we'll see.

>primrose
>alucard
>hood roy
Theodora is the only original character

>>747630348
Can’t wait to not buy this for my Switch 2 and forget it even exists bc Fire Emblem is so fucking lame and brown now.

>>747640902
>he doesnt try using every unit at least once
You guys are boring

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>japanese love ludia
i thought they hated brown people...

>extremely advanced form of magic, powerful magic artillery, constantly burning flames, traversing within shadows, summoning and controlling crest beasts
>THEO PUNCH
>THEO BIG ROCK

>>747642332
It's obvious anon. If you give players a robust map with many ways to empower, train and equip your unit's with powerful items, than your unit's will naturally become very powerful. And because it's open-ended, the developers need to account for sub-optimal play, some players will not be efficient and will waste their map turns.

This means that the standard strategy elements will become fairly easy as a result. You either have compelling world map gameplay where you can make mistakes, which means you have to make maps easier, or alternatively you make the world map extremely forgiving (and superfluous) and make the maps difficult instead.

It's extremely difficult to have both because the two compete. That said, if you optimize the maps for optimal world map gameplay than yes it's possible, but by it's nature it can soft-lock players very easily in that case.

>>747642932
>pure girl
>cute hair
>tit window
Ludia is a cute.

>>747642932
Only if they have nog features

>>747642332
They are diametrically opposed, the more you go in one direction the further you get away from the other

The portraits in this game are mostly very good and a big improvement over 3H, but a few genuinely need more shading. Kiroc's is one of them. His face looks very flat and strange because the shadows are not chunky and form-defining enough, basically just thin lines in a few places.

>>747643092
Pure girls don't dress like that. She's used goods.

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>>747642820
>Theodora is the only original character
FE has toyed with the pissed off no-nonsense lord before, but it's nice to see them go all in with her. She actually does swing around her power/position, I'm guessing she makes retarded emotion driven choices in the moment and doesn't give a single fuck about who is in her way.

An actually based Lord for FE and because of that she's going to be extremely unpopular with Japanese audiences.

>>747643073
>>747643149
Fire Emblem is a JRPG, you guys need to wake up. Play Advance Wars if you want an Intelligent Systems game that has few or no RPG elements.
But stats and skills have always been core to the experience. There's a reason for the jav cav meme. That shit would never work in a game like Advance Wars. Even the strongest tank in that game dies under a few turns of intense attrition.

>>747643292
I want a strategy rpg like it used to be

>>747643212
>decks Cai right in the face
I will now play your route.

I'm allergic to nigger, can i play this game?

>>747643212
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
THEODORA-SAMA I KNEEL

>>747643375
It still is. Now you just hunt a horse with extra movement instead of it being handed to you through promotion. More simulation but same ceiling more or less.
It's not like you can make a unit more broken than Seth. That's the ceiling.

>>747643292
Old Fire Emblems tied the RPG elements directly into the strategy elements. If you wanted to level a unit, you needed to throw them into combat on the map, with the obvious risk of death and lost items. If you wanted good items or gold, you needed to spend a unit's turns navigating to locations on the map. If you wanted to recruit someone, it often meant bringing a unit to the map and carrying them to the recruit.

There was no separation between RPG and Strategy elements, they were directly tied to each other. That is what made FE the franchise that it is. Modern FE seems to be moving further and further away from this type of gameplay.

>>747642932
brazilian immigrants cured their racism

>>747643512
definitely no

>>747643212
I support hurting that weenie fag Cai and his little turd hair.

>>747642348
Still beats the shit out of Cai's "le generic Shonen MC" energy.

>>747642348
This but with Dietrich. The other 3 still have interesting route story setups.

>>747633249
I want some of the copium Ike/Soren shippers are on. Its insane how delusional they are

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>>747643837
>Old Fire Emblems tied the RPG elements directly into the strategy elements.
I mean, to a point, yes. But I think it's possible to oversell the strengths of this approach. It is not actually very hard to scrimblo in old FE. That's why you get tons of very casual relay gooners doing it for hours, essentially risk-free.
Side objectives are always good and hopefully those return in FW.
And I do miss on-map recruits, but that's been a weakness of nu-FE for some time now.

I'm just willing to give this new system a chance. Tying a lot of the unit progression to a limited resource economy full of tradeoffs could be an interesting take on the formula.

>>747643512
No, you will have an aneurysm while playing it. This is in the top 5 brownest casts of the year behind sports games and GTA.

>>747644146
Fujos and alphabet people are famous for being delusional

>>747641505
>Also just don't make her a hag
Why not? There's all kinds of people in a story.

>>747643212
She grew on me and is now my favorite by far. I never thought I'd say this because I usually hate female protagonists.

>>747644761
Certain people fit certain roles. Hags should be witches like Niime, no gun kata martial artists. Same reason you don't make a guy like Goliath a mage.

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Cutesythea

>>747644958
nta but gun kata martial artist isn't her role, that's just how she fights, you can just reclass her if it bothers you that much. Given that Troy is basically Theodora's aunt who's been working with her family for generations, it would be weird if she wasn't an older character.

>>747630348
But is the gameplay going to be good?

>>747642759
They already said you can go to part 2 solo so yeah as long as you skip her route you can kill her off.

>>747644218
>It is not actually very hard to scrimblo in old FE
I'd disagree, the risk of death means any bad play can result in your scrimblo dying before they become good.

>I'm just willing to give this new system a chance
See, I don't think this is really a "new" system. It's just the natural evolution of the hub world elements that have become increasingly more prominent since Awakening. We already have a pretty good idea of what it's going to be like given it's just the monastery but bigger and with more systems.

Having played many games like this, it's often very easy to break these types of systems. On a first play-through, they seem fine because you need to waste time exploring and trying things to get an idea of the cost/benefit of any action. However once you've identified the big ticket items, it becomes easy to route because you know going to X and Y results in huge benefits while Z is a waste of time.

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>>747642759
>>747645379
I wonder if the devs put in unique dialogue for situations like if you were to recruit Peter in some other route and bring him to the future, but you never did Cai's route so now he has to fight an undead version of his bro.

>>747643212
Holy based

>>747643212
It even shows in gameplay in exploration/combat too. She's the only one with access to the upper section of the capital which houses royalty. And her route allows units to use Gambits with equipped Battalions.

>>747631816
Replay Three Houses on Switch 1 then look at gameplay of this.

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>>747630348
Have they confirmed Eshmel can S Rank ending? Everything's a mess and it's hard to find any real info. I just want to play the Avatar character as much as possible and marry cute girls.

>>747645413
It's different from previous systems in that it has a currency that is exchanged for power & resources - turns.
Despite superficially being similar to 3H in some respects, 3H didn't have a turn- or action-sensitive global currency, which you could incrementally exchange for useful resources. It had a schedule instead. "Do this task this week because I said so."
In FW, for the first time ever, you're "timed" on your pre-battle prep. And you can't accomplish everything you would like to - this creates tradeoffs.

The big question is whether the tradeoffs are meaningful (balanced) at this point but it's pretty new for the series in and of itself.

>>747646141
no avatar romance for FW

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>>747646141
>I just want to play the Avatar character as much as possible and marry cute girls.
Nobody knows about the S-Rank situation except whichever journos have finished the game already, but with the amount of romance talk we've seen in the game already it would be weird if the system wasn't in place, Eshmel has an A-Rank support with everyone and I don't think they'd put that in if you couldn't S-Rank someone after that.
Oh, and you're going to be spending most of the game (assuming you're not bee-lining it towards the future route at the game's start) as a fat little bird that doesn't fight with anyone or really communicate with them outside of dedicated cutscenes and PERFECT BIRD TIME.

>>747646567
>as a fat little bird that doesn't fight
I unironically love this.

>>747646567
Eshmel doesn't have C or B supports
They aren't going to have 1 support -> Romance

>>747646632
>They aren't going to have 1 support -> Romance
I could see it happening.

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Thoughts?

Hit the girl with the PERFECT BIRD TIME, in 5 years she will still be soaking wet

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Can we expect the developer interview by around midnight in Murica? It'll be the 15th for the Japs then. Or maybe it's intended for the 16th for them, and the 15th was only intended for us.

>>747646682
my only thought is that the JP popularity poll is going to make a lot of Americans very angry

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>>747646632
>They aren't going to have 1 support -> Romance
Anon they let you marry Sothis in 3H and that included a grand total of zero support levels, you just jumped straight to S. If the A-Rank supports with Eshmel are lengthy ones, you could justify a romance.
Maybe not the best justification, but enough for it to happen and not piss off someone who spent the last 100+ hours planning to put on a ring on Olympia or whoever.

>>747646303
>>747646567
>>747646632
If there's no romance for Eshmel I'm skipping this. Unbelievable decision. I'm already upset about Eshmel barely being in the game. I just can't understand what the devs are thinking and I hope they won't repeat this structure ever again. Awful.

>>747647013
>If there's no romance for Eshmel I'm skipping this.
Can't know for sure until it's released.

this whole no avatar romance shit really does feel like dei look at obsidian games they HATE the player being able to romance anyone and it's all asexual friendzoned "found family" bullshit lmao

>>747647065
nta but once the review embargo is done, I'm sure some review will mention if that is in the game or not.

I prefer no romance over making everyone bisexual.

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>if I can't S-rank my waifu for 3 extra text boxes of dialogue I will be vewy angy >:(
>btw avatar shouldn't have been in the game at all if I can't jerk my dick harder
I genuinely hate that the series has become this for so many and I'm not going to pretend anymore. Fuck all of you.

>>747647320
No, fuck you.

Shame Pirate isn't a class anymore, would have enjoyed Kiroc a little more with it's return. But confirms that I'll have Dietrich recruit him.

>>747646632
I would guess the reason that they didn't do C-A supports for Eshmel is because you wouldn't have enough time to do that with as many characters since you're really only going to have them interacting with Eshmel for a single future route. Trying to build that many supports in such a short time with one character would turn into a massive pain in the ass real fast.

>>747647320
its simply the fate that all games that add dating sim mechanics share. it will help get people interested but once you cross that line you can never go back to what it was.

>>747646141
>I just want to play the Avatar character as much as possible and marry cute girls.
I hate you and everything you stand for

>>747645290
That's retarded, she'll keep her default outfit on cutscenes.
Again, you can make her old and not ugly like reina, or you can make her a witch. She's not just ugly, she looks ridiculous.

>>747647487
Then maybe they shouldn't have structured the game in such a flawed way to begin with.

ANATOLIA MY WIFE

>>747647629
You hate everything about someone being straight and playing video games? So you're one of those.

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>>747647320
>>747647629
Why do you care so much about what one anon wants to do in a single player game?
If you want you could just skip all the dialogue, supports and story for 100% pure asexual gameplay and that's just as rational a style of playing a FE game as the local /v/ waifufag that's only going to recruit girls and kill off all the men.

>>747641853
Sam Altman and tarrifs.

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>>747646567
>>747646632
>all those complaints from 3Hfags that Engage didn't have nearly as robust a relationship support system or meaningful romance in that game
>only to get this in the 3H sequel
>and they barely get to play as the avatar you actually get to customize again
The most apex of keks.

ive never played a fire emblem game before, should i play this? i like anime waifu sims. spoonfeed me pls

I might not like many of FW's decisions, but if they cut romance Im fucking buying it. I'm so tired of avatar and romance troons!

>>747643723
Ryoma can carry harder than Seth because of his retarded weapon. Put some ninja tits on his back, give him vantage, and just put him in a field.

When will reviews for FW start coming out?

>>747647768
If you buy Fire Emblem games to date cartoon women, you are unironically in the wrong series. That's the part I'm tired of dancing around. All these retards need to fuck off. It's been almost 15 years since Awakening dropped.

why has my copy not shipped yet, this is oppression

>>747642348
>I have 0 hopes for Leda as a character
Did anyone ever seriously have any to begin with? To me the direction they were going with her seemed obvious and generic from the beginning, ever since the game's initial reveal. It seemed like people always only cared about her for her design and Icanfixher fetish potential.

>>747647013
cry more waifuturd

>>747647940
They're the same lol
Raijinto is not any better than a GBA javelin or a tome within its own game. It's just a 1-2 range murderstick. We've seen it time and time again.

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PLEASE IS NO ROMANCE
IT'LL BE FUCKING FUNNY

>>747647013
waifufags lost
3HRT won

>>747647881
Start with either the two US-released GBA games, Awakening, or Engage as jump-off points. First two are easy & most closest to the old games, middle is ass-packed with content and shares the relationship -> children system from FE4, last one's a big "greatest hits" intended to introduce new fans to the older games, and has very good maps and gameplay quirks.

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>>747647825
Funny thing is, the only "avatar" romance I cared about is my ship of M!Byleth and F!Shez. I just like getting commissioned art of that.
I always loved paired endings, because it's part of the charm of showing the epilogues for the units you decided to play with
But for 3H I cared more about gameplay improvements which everything I've seen about FW is doing what I wanted.
>Varying gameplay/mechanics in routes, actually design them to encourage playing through them
>Part 2 in each route is allegedly back to back battles with a wartime focus
>Actual variety with exploration, not just being locked to the Monastery.
>Fix up how the classes are distributed/organized, don't have everythign become mounts labeled as "Master"
>Smaller "core" for each team, to incentivize picking up other units to fill in what you're missing. 3H gave you 8 students in each class which pretty much covered everything you needed.

>>747648029
It's harder to park a tome user in enemy lines and expect them to live since you need to get them the right skills first and they might not get them. Ryoma just werks right out of the box.

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>>747647881
>should i play this?
Do you like strategy games?
If you don't then don't bother. As much as /v/ talks about Fire Emblem being a dating sim, it's about as accurate as the claims that Persona is a dating sim. The reality is that you're going to be spending triple digit hours in a turn-based JRPG/Strategy game hybrid and the "waifu sim" boils down to a single cutscene at the very end of the game that lasts maybe 2 minutes + some ending text that says what your avatar and their partner did together after the war. It's a cute little bonus, not something worth playing the game for over an actual dating sim.

If you are fine with strategy games then FE is a good franchise in the genre that puts more emphasis in making your units more than faceless chess pieces unlike other strategy games. Difficulty tends to be on the easier side, but you can find some really hard games that will work your brain pretty well and the fictional fantasy worlds they create are cool.

>>747648243
It's really not. Just put any character in Oni Chieftain, equip them with horse spirit, and give them a Dark Knight or a General pairup. They won't die and you'll beat the game only occasionally using a vulnerary.

>>747646165
3H did have turn limits. They just didn't matter at all (Which is what I suspect FW will be like).

You literally have X action points with professor levels. You can spend them on raising weapon proficiency, fishing, gardening, arena, etc. In addition you have to choose whether to spend time on skirmishes or paralogues which you are also limited on.

They could make an extremely tight and tactical world map gameplay. However it's highly unlikely they would do this. There are a few reasons.

1. People want to mess around and explore. Not deal with the stress of figuring out an optimal map route to follow before spending turns.
2. Normalfags hate difficulty, especially difficulty that could soft-lock you or lose hours of gameplay (imagine spending 200 turns and realizing on turn 180 that you fucked up).
3. Deciding between story and gameplay sucks.

Now maddening (if they add it) may implement that kind of challenge, but let's be real, once you know the route, the world map will never be interesting again. You already mostly know the optimal path for a challenge run.

Reminds me a lot of persona gameplay, where the "world map" section of the game has only gotten easier and easier over time, inadvertently making the turn based dungeons a total joke.

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>>747648219
>M!Byleth and F!Shez
Example of the art I like to commission. I love em so much.
>>747648371
On that note about "soft locking" I think that's why they have chapter select for each route unlocked from the getgo.

>>747642920
theres like a billion units im not doing that

It's weird how with Eshmael they both went back on Avatar focus (one support, mostly silly bird) while still making them uber important to the plot

>>747642332
If you ever touched feh it's not hard to come to that conclusion.

>>747647725
I hate waifufags and every new fire emblem jerking off a player self insert character protagonist, fates bends over backwards so corrin can do no wrong, byleth is a fucking soulless automotan with no character, all the fake choice shit in awakening, TEA TIME i'm sick of it.

>>747647912
>If it doesn't have the features I don't like I'm not buying it because I don't enjoy it
>If it doesn't have the features I don't like I'll buy it to own the enemies in my head
These are not the same thing. You are mentally ill.

>>747647825
it's funny how awakening expanded the "romance" stuff and expanded the supports specifically because they brought back eugenics from genealogy. both of those got carried over to fates, 3h scaled it back because no eugenics, engage scaled it back more because the ring system was intended to be eugenics streamlined, now fw has old men, divorced and widowed characters because it presumably won't have a gentoo. maybe the redditors will figure out IS only cares about that stuff in the context of the game mechanics.

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>>747648371
>persona gameplay, where the "world map" section of the game has only gotten easier and easier over time
Optimally playing the life sim stuff still fucks with people. It's not hard to finish the SLs you're interested in and max out certain ranks, but you do need to do some weird shit if you want a perfect run and I always see anons (cowards) talk about using guides for that part of the game.

I think that's where FW will be, where you won't have an issue building a strong army with the free time, but if you want the STRONGEST army then you'll need to activate autist mode and figure out the optimal route for every chapter.

>>747647881
Easiest way to find out if the gameplay is for you or not is to emulate Fire Emblem for GBA, it has a tutorial made specifically to introduce first time players to FE gameplay, and it features a cute girl who is many people's favorite waifu to this day.

>>747648642
I've already been brainstorming off little we know. For example, Ursula in Dietrich's route will be fun, because with the upgrading/acquiring combat arts, and she has Convoy access, she can burn through weapons and keep on swapping in new ones.
Seems like Hit Rate is a big deal with a lot of folks' personals. Looking forward to getting the full picture, because as I mentioned, seems like their intent is having you fill in what you need/want, instead of giving you a full cast of 8+ units from the getgo.

I'm really curious how well FW will sell

>>747648642
Nobody likes lyn

>>747648642
No point in building the "strongest army" or caring about the "optimal route" if the game is just trivially easy.

I don't get why you guys are even hyped for this
even if you ignore how so many of the chars are brown skinned there isn't really anyone very striking
chapter maps are looking to be 3H and Echoes again, which had recent FE's worst maps
combat doesn't seem very in depth
world map is just giga monastery with way more busywork
story is bound to be shit because it's a time travel plot set to the usual evil dragonb backdrop

>>747648817
Meant for>>747648658
>>747647881
Play sacred stones instead. Fe7 is fucking braindead. Fe8 isn't hard but its a more interesting than the enemy phase javelin and handaxe spam that fe7 is

>>747648113
>>747648298
>>747648658
thanks anons ill give it a go

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>>747648796
I posted the timeline of 3H's sales a previous thread, but it was in the middle of shitposts so people ignored it.
Keep in mind, that the prices of FW is $10-$20 more, and it's a year less in this console's life than Switch 1 was when 3H came.
So I'd say if it does at least 1.2 to 1.5 million in the first couple months, then it's on the same pace as 3H.

>>747648894
I agree with the other anon about starting with the GBA FE7, because the Lyn story is really about introducing all the basics/mechanics of FE.

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>>747648860
>there isn't really anyone very striking
Last time they did "striking" was Engage and fags all over the internet pissed blood it wasn't "serious" enough. Piss off.

>>747648837
Some anons can't help themselves. 3H is also an easy FE game, but there was years of arguments about what was the most optimal way to run shit.
Even now I still sometimes see it come up in these threads if things like Wyvern Emblem is actually the meta tactic or not.

>>747648298
I can't imagine Edelgard being good at chess, she's as unga bunga as Dimitri is and has to be wrangled by Hubert to stay functional.

>>747647959
actually at this point if you buy a fire emblem for strategy gameplay you're in the wrong series

>>747648910
>Already 2.6 million sales before March 2020
But muh Covid narrative?! Bros explain!

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>>747648896
Have fun. FE is cool.
And may god have mercy on your soul if you get hooked in and become a fan.

>>747648910
>then it's on the same pace as 3H.
I suppose if it's good it'll be TH 2, if it's bad it'll look more like Engage sales

>>747648860
We are at the "monastery gameplay wasn't that bad anyway" part of the discourse now that we've seen that maps are secondary to sim elements

>>747645413
People forget ISIS do all the FE games usually and KT did 3H which is why it's as easy as shit. If there's a chance to assrape players, ISIS loves to do it. Eg wind tunnels

>>747648995
maybe striking isn't the correct term, I meant "good".
They need to stop hiring the vtuber artists for engage and 3H and start using Senri Kita and Hidari again

>muh sales
gacha is a plague

>>747648894
>fe7 is braindead
>so play seth stomp simulator
Uh...

>>747648860
>>747649145
That's just the thing, sim elements also seem scaled down in this since supports are limited again and we aren't even sure if characters can pair each other
Idk if the personafags that took residence with us will even appreciate this like they did Fateswakening and 3H

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>>747640391
Both Sothis and Seteth are taking extra attention from a previous game, so it's kind a of disingenuous chart

>>747648996
>but there was years of arguments about what was the most optimal way to run shit
>shit took only 1 week or 2
Let's generous and give you maybe a few months because Maddening wasn't available on release. But the gameplay for 3H was so horrid that discussions of that stopped after a few weeks and focused purely on retarded Edeltard discourse.

>>747648110
The most hilarious thing is there's no switch 2 hack so it could take weeks for all the waifufags and husbandofags to realise that they have been bamboozled.

>>747630348
Which path has the most whites?

>>747648910
Even if the game ends up being a masterpiece, 10/10 generational game, I don't see it reaching 3H sales. I don't know why but the fact that it's a Switch 2 exclusive and also the $80 dollar price makes me think that it won't sell that well.

>>747649336
lol

>>747648642
That's only really true for 3 and kind of true for 4. 5 is by far the easiest one to play perfectly and doable without a guide. 3/4 are mostly difficult because so much of the information is never explained to the player.

The main difference is that I like Persona because of the time management system. It's literally what makes persona what it is. When the dungeons are piss easy because I played the time management part well, I'm happy because I was rewarded for playing the fun part of the game well.

For FE, that's the opposite, I play it for the maps and the turn-based strategy game-play. I like being rewarded for playing a map well and making all of my future actions easier and easier because I played the map properly. The hub worlds are just there to help me make the scrimblo's a bit stronger, and the sooner I am out the better.

>>747649149
Engage on normal and "hard" was so bad that if you played it on that difficulty you walked away thinking the gameplay was fucking awful. That position only changed as people started playing maddening and realized how well balanced it was.

Given there is no maddening difficulty on release, chances are the game will be insanely easy.

>>747649375
They can't all be brown!!!!

>>747649301
The retarded Edelgard discourse was the main event, but there was always some gameplay discussion sprinkled in there.

>>747649336
Dietrich, that's why I am only going to play his route and do an only white run.

>>747649336
If that's a concern for you, just skip the game. honestly.

>>747649432
There's like 10 white people in the game and they're scattered around

>>747649028
As you can see after it practically doubled, so the sales trend did have a spike.
Honestly, FW has the advantage of releasing very early in the Switch 2's life, so we'll see. I see it like how when Xenoblade 2 released in Switch 1's first year.
>>747649301
As much as I loved 3H, it's crazy how rushed it's development was. Koei somehow pulled off some bullshit when all they had to work with was a rough draft of Silver Snow story.

>>747630348
My Amazon order says Arriving 21 September.. this is placeholder, right?

IS should hire FE modders to make their games better!

>>747647825
but remember, it's ok when FW does it

>>747630348
Should i watch this trailer? I really dont want to know too much.

>>747649176
I don’t know what that retard is smoking, even fucking Eirika can solo the game.

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>>747649435
>Dietrich
Anon...

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>>747649336
I don't know

>>747649616
It's just a shorter version of the Direct, with some extra cutscene stuff thrown in out of context.

>>747649616
If you already watched the direct it has the same info.

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>>747649616
It's just a supercut version of the FE Direct.
If you really want to go in blind, then just skip the beginning and end (since they show snippets of story) and just watch the parts that explain how the game works.

3H managed to stay relevant only because retards on Twitter kept making the same argument about which route is less shit in terms of writing, or if Edelgard is stupid or not. I have never seen a single person say anything about the gameplay or maps for 3H. Also, gatekeeper is without a doubt the most forced and unfunny joke the fe community has ever made.

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Nintendo of America really hates anime. They'll never update the banners for Youtube/Xitter with anything that isn't their "mass appeal" brands.

>>747649662
I will just take the blonde queen and pretend the other 4 don't exist.

>>747649805
>Cunnytoon
>mass appeal
lol. lmao.

>>747649435
>and do an only white run
I wonder how many anons are actually going to do this. You'd need to intentionally kill Esmeralda and Mikaela asap, then you're left with an odd pool of characters to recruit.

>>747649527
>instead of brown everyone is now a tranny

>>747649661
Cute girls are the exception to a White only run.

You can have downtime without it being a bunch of busy work that requires to navigate one or multiple big hubs and not artificially bloat the game. Stuff like building shops, bases and some other things.

Throwing all of this fucking life sim shit will make people completely forget what they were planning to do, who the characters were and what the fuck is doing with the story. Even more so when there are 4 storylines. This is just going to burn people out before they even reach another story chapter with the core FE gameplay.

>>747649661
I am benching them

Sacred Stones Lunatic Mode (v2.1)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/cetyjn1chb8drdjdjykq2/Sacred-Stones.ups?rlkey=pt4rtr2t6tafkpzx6oy3hrnnw&st=dwzs0ldq&dl=0
Stronger enemies, split your army and play both routes in one run, localization nerfs undone.

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>>747647825
the only kek is this game flopping just like Engage if it doesn't have MC romance, waifuchads run this franchise do not forget that

>>747647320
Based

>>747649865
>all of this fucking life sim shit
Stop calling it that, life sim shit would actually be fun this is just a bunch of nothing

>>747649883
>benching them
Kill them you coward.

>>747649931
Fair, it's persona without the charm.

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>>747648371
3H's professor level system is pretty perverse. You're not really given a fixed turn allowance on a per chapter basis to spend as you please. It's more like you have an action limit, which must *itself* be grinded up to max rank for the max number of actions, which is just insane to me. 3H wants you to grind literally everything so much that it's honestly shocking to me, looking back on it.
FW just gives you a simple resource: turns. Things either cost turns or they don't. You're not "fabricating" your own turns by grinding, and the turns aren't grouped by the contrivance of a "week" (a single small instance of actions).
Since you're not worried about raising an arbitrary ranking to gain more actions/turns, all you're focused on doing is extracting maximum utility from turns.

>but let's be real, once you know the route, the world map will never be interesting again. You already mostly know the optimal path for a challenge run.
Maybe, but I wouldn't go that far yet. Some things will always be better than other things, and players will always identify a meta with time. But if there's sufficient complexity and tradeoffs in the system, an optimal path doesn't have to be overly obvious or one-dimensional. A lot of effects seem good in this game and they compete with each other - blessings, reclassing, recruitment, gathering, dungeons, etc.

>>747630348
I never liked Fire Emblem, I'm not upset about it. Just not my vibe.

>>747649865
>Stuff like building shops, bases and some other things.
I'm pretty sure that's in FW too.

>>747649852
>everyone is a tranny but good gameplay
or
>everyone is brown and story is ok

we lose either way...

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>Which path has the most whites?

>>747649662
whichever route lets me ____ Anatolia is the one I will pick

>>747649945
If the game let's me do it without getting a game over than sure.

>>747649945
>killing units on purpose
GIGA CRINGE

I love brown girls but I'm just not feeling any of the ones in this game, except maybe halvin.

>>747650013
No, not at all. What even gave you the impression that was in the game?

Do you pick routes like in TH? So a Lord at the beginning?

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Megaira's Beacon kino

>>747650194
Lilian for me...

>>747650202
Start as Eshmel, do tutorial battles, find statues, speak with the one you want to play.

>>747650069
>____ Anatolia
she'll be DLC only

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>>747649984
>3H wants you to grind literally everything so much that it's honestly shocking to me, looking back on it.
The main problem I had with the 3H hub was that the game wanted you to do that, but it gave you those Professor Rank Ups way too goddamn fast and even then, there wasn't nearly enough to do in that hub with all those points and with what there was to do, the reward for doing so was balanced horribly (never fucking bothered with the combat tournaments because all you got was more gold to throw on the mountain pile and a shitty item) so I remember so many explore sessions just ended with Byleth eating 5 meals in a row.
I know some anons are groaning about the amount of stuff to do in the hub in FW, but honestly I'm really happy with that since it solves my main problem with it.

And thank fuck lost items are gone, that is actual bullshit busywork.

>>747650042
I don't care for characters being brown. I'd rather everyone be brown but super straight than a single tranny or xe/xers.

>>747650197
Since there are systems in place like Cai placing traps on the world map and however Leda's performances work, I was thinking those were similar to setting up spots where you gain resources.

>>747648642
FES and P3P (I have no idea about Reload) have such tight time frames for 100% S Link completion on NG that you'd have to be a savant to figure that one blind on a first run.
4 is less bad unless you mess up the fox's timing.
5 and Metaphor are very easy.

>>747649984
what you don't like doing that shitty fishing minigame 150 times in a row during the one multi catch day?

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>>747649889
What you should do is get the total sales X MSRP to see what their gross sales were.
Engage's total gross was basically on par with Awakening, and I didn't even factor in the sale prices when 3DS games would decrease in price constantly. And of course this doesn't factor DLC.
Some will say it's a "flop" because it didn't sell a gorillian because they want to LARP as an Investor executive. But I think it met the expectations on what they wanted it to do, considering how it was announced 3 months before releasing, and then they moved on.

>>747630348
how many hours will it take for someone to raw dog the endgame without doing any time travelling

>>747650250
>Lilian doesn’t care about Tobias
>Lysander doesn’t care about Bonaventure
Hm, strange

>>747649028
You really think it still would've got that extra 1.5 million sales without covid gibs and everyone locked in their houses bored to death?

>>747650523
It was a flop because it collapsed the series right back down to echoes tier after a gigantic miracle hit

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>>747650250
based bonaventure

>>747650250
Theo's gay dads.

>>747649984
Anon, professor levels were mostly intended to just be gate to limit actions. That's it. People just figured out that you can farm an insane amount of professor levels by fishing on a specific day. Otherwise you have little control over how fast you reach max level.

While the implementation is different, it's not so substantially different that you can call it a "new" system.

> A lot of effects seem good in this game and they compete with each other
We won't know that until we play the game and know how tight the balancing on turn count actually is. We know that dungeons and skirmishes only take 1 turn. We know that the main hub is also pretty lenient on time. It's possible they will make it very tight, but everything seems to point towards the opposite. That time is going to be very lenient and flexible.

You might not be able to do "everything" but you can do "everything that matters".

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/WHWvJbAMSms_4kXuUl7NxA/
Kill yourself.

>>747650250
>Bonaventure hopes Theodora gets plapped pregnant
Don't worry, my pirate waluigi Bro, I'll make it happen.

>>747650523
people consider engage a flop because IS considers engage a flop. Practically ignoring it in the mobile game and immediately rejecting it's concepts for the next game.

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>>747630348
>blade wrapped in cloth
Why is Japan obsessed with this? It's retarded

>>747650715
Yeah? It had the power of word of mouth and discourse.

>>747650523
>what is inflation
smartest engagetroon

>>747650523
The fact that FW is now confirmed to be built in Unity makes it clear to me that IS chose to use that engine to return to full 3D HD development and Engage was a project primarily meant to get their staff familiar with the engine and to build an asset library. We've already seen reused animations, I'm sure there's a lot of under the hood code and features ported straight from Engage. Like the whole walking around after the battlefield looks exactly like preview clips of walking around a FW village accessed from the world map. And the animal adoption stuff was a precursor to capturing mounts in FW.

>>747650847
>and immediately rejecting it's concepts for the next game
tbf the main concept of Engage doesn't really work in any other game outside of that anniversary setting. There's some mechanics and systems that we've seen them bring over from Engage into FW, but the Engage system was never going to be one of them.

>>747650847
>Practically ignoring it in the mobile game
Wait what? People contantly kept complaining Heroes kept adding Engage outta the ass while leaving everyone else in the dust

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>>747650797
Sloppa answer because I can't be bothered to research the particulars of this dysfunctional system, 4 years removed from the game
Do you disagree with the AI's characterization here?
It sure seems like you need to actively raise your professor level in 3H. I certainly remember it being this way, but I feel like you're nudging me in a different direction.
You don't have to do all this bullshit in FW. It's a huge, substantial difference between the two systems.