>High Elf refugees from Dalaran and Lordaeron join Stormwind because they didn't do shit with them >Dark Elf undead resurrected by SylvannasThere. Elves for everybody without fucking the lore up with donut steel gay elves. They can even share starting zones with humans and undead respectively. Come up with a new paypig rage, maybe one people actually want to play.
>>747630473Elves don't belong in the Horde, get the fuck back to retoilet
>>747630587it's a compromise as far as still getting elves without breaking the lore with dumb sky elves you dense double nigger
>>747630473Turtle wow had it right, it should have been high elves for alliance and goblins for horde.
>>747630696If it's a given that horde must have elves at least give them good ones
>>747630473yes, obvious, but blizzard is retarded.
>>747630473They can't have a race that's so prominently tall/blonde haired/blue eyed on the Alliance.
>>747630473They gave both faction the same race because they were too lazy to want to make 2 starting zones.But no one fucking needs a new starting zone. People just go to where the rest of the player base levels. Just make up a story how they come to the city and just join the faction ffs.
NO MORE ELVES
>>747630473how many reskins can they do?
>>747632037yes
>>747630648It's a compromise so that Chinese factions will be balanced.
>>747630473>>High Elf refugees from Dalaran and Lordaeron join Stormwind because they didn't do shit with them>>Dark Elf undead resurrected by SylvannasThis idea is too good to have been thought up or implemented by blizzard. That's why it will never happen.
Skybong lore fits perfectly tho
>>747630587You lost
>>747630473>>747633265Dark Elves (Undead elves from the third war) absolutely should have been done at some point or another and would have done a lot to solve the Horde's "lack of pretty races" issue, and I feel like is one of those things blizzard is really going to HAVE to do at some point for Forever.But High Elves as a playable race do not and never have belonged on the Alliance. As a splinter, demi-faction of random faces dotted around alliance settlements in southern eastern kingdoms as a holdover from Warcraft? Absolutely, sure. But the high elves as a collective race were>Genocided by the undead>Abandoned, betrayed and sentenced to death by human military forces when they just needed some help>Also would not get on well with Night Elves and their xenophobia + general mistrust of highborne from the get goIt has never made sense for high elves to be on the alliance. All you retards just think it makes sense because they match the alliance aesethetic better than the horde. But the alliance canonically treated them like shit prior to Year 1 of world of warcraft's lore and they only treated them worse from TBC onwards.
>>747630696>No elves on horde Enjoy 90-10 faction population splitsLess than 2% of the population plays goblin in retail wow.
>>747633926Classic was horde dominant with no elves on the horde.
>>747633890>Abandoned, betrayed and sentenced to death by human military forces when they just needed some helpLorderon. They were abandoned by Lorderon, not Stormwind. High Elves joining the Alliance absolutely makes sense because they were with the Stormwind humans during the first and second war.
This is the company that had those DEI spider plots to assess overwatch characters. It is simply impossible for them to add a race that is depicted as>white skinned>attractive>able bodied>heterosexual>good/heroicSomething has to go. They can't make the whole race gay or disabled so we get blue elves. Its really as simple as that.
>>747633890All of the playable races in Vanilla besides the night elves and dwarves were also similarly on the brink of extinction.>Darkspear trolls about to be eradicated before Thrall showed up>tauren about to be eradicated before Thrall showed up>orcs only had a handful of ships arrive in Kalimdor and the majority of the species that survived the Second War are still enemy factions>Forsaken are a splinter faction of the undead raised in Lordaeron>gnomes are the refugee survivors of their nuclear holocaust>Stormwind humans are the remnants of a single kingdom that got wiped out in the First War and are horribly separated form the other human kingdoms that were also devastated in the Third WarIt's an important aspect of WC3 and Vanilla that all of the races and factions are in a precarious situation. Even dwarves and night elves, despite not being near-extinction, are facing massive upheaval because of a clan war and losing their immortality/encroaching Legion corruption.As for the other points, we see the night elves being incredibly friendly to Kael'thas in WC3 and Tyrande even said that she feels indebted to the Highborne and their descendants for their aid in the War of the Ancients (and then nearly gives her life solely to save Kael'thas's caravan). The animosity between the elves was something invented later as a pseudo-retcon to justify why they forced the blood elves into the Horde (even though they were already in the Illidari, but whatever). The Garithos thing is like one fucking guy being a dickhead, so it's ridiculous to just completely abandon the Alliance over it, especially when three of the four races in the Horde have actively tried to genocide the high elves within living memory.I don't care about Forever and I would never touch another Blizzard product, but I had to reply regarding lore autism for high elves in the Alliance.
>>747633242well yes. it is what it is>>747633296>retroactively add race of gnomes who've always lived under lordaeron>this time around they come out and join the horde>the green liquid in undercity was never undead slime but gnome machine residuebravo metzen>>747633890>>747634057>They were abandoned by Lorderon, not Stormwindthis. in the OP I meant to say "join Stormwind because they didn't do shit TO them" as in Stormwind didn't have a Garithos to piss off the elves.>Genocided by the undeadWrong, many lived in Dalaran and some in Stormwind>Abandoned, betrayed and sentenced to death by human military forces when they just needed some helpBy Lordaeron>Also would not get on well with Night Elves and their xenophobia + general mistrust of highborne from the get goYeah fucking right. If that's the case, no one gets along with the Nelves. They fought everybody in w3.>But the alliance canonically treated them like shit prior to Year 1 of world of warcraft's lore Completely retarded take
>>747630473The target audience (not you) doesn't care.
>>747633890it's not like the player can't just represent a single individual of that race and it doesn't have to mean they have their own capital and all that shitlike how pandas were handledyou autist
>>747634284It can't be that. There already are black skinned blood elves, retarded though that might be. Give them a jerry curl hair option if you must and be done with itI think what's really happening is they're appealing to the DeviantArtfags tumblrdykes from 10 years ago, the ones who spend hours customizing in Baldurs Gate 3. And you can STILL have that, just don't call them high elves and don't have them appear out of nowhere. You'd think they'd have learned from Shadowlands>They can't make the whole race gay I mean they ARE elves
>>747630587baraniggers deserve to suffer.
>>747633926You dense retards don't understand that retoilet and classic are two very distinct playerbases.The former are women and tranny consoomers playing dressup, farming old dungeons for mounts and gear pieces so they can afk in [current hub city], which is why elf variants are most played.The latter are the hardcore dudebros who wish to reenact war and like cool metal shit warcraft was known for, which is why classic was majority horde.
>>747634057>Lordaeron, not StormwindStill humans. Do you think the elves care if Stormwind came to them and said>It was NORF FC that tried to execute your prince and betray our historic ties!>Not us, the innocent SOUF FC that also failed to lend you any support whatsoever!>they were with the Stormwind humans during the first and second warWhich makes the betrayal all the more poignant. King Anasterian had already withdrawn Quel'Thalas from the human kingdom alliance at the close of the 2nd war because he felt the human kingdoms had asked too much and offered too little. So at that point the elves were like >"Yes we helped each other 3000 years ago, but we've essentially repaid our debt to you now and we don't like how the humans operate, so we're withdrawing and becoming more isolationist"Fast forward to the 3rd war and the humans treat elves with out and out hostility despite fighting against a common enemy of arthas and the undead. Considering they had already left at that point, why would they rejoin the alliance?The last time they were STRONG allies was thousands of years ago which is a long ass time to humans in wow
>>747635186>Still humans. Do you think the elves care if Stormwind came to them and saidNaw man the elves are probably barely sentient retards and think that all humans are not only of the same kingdom but also under Garithos's command
What if it's all a trick for beta and they turn them into high elfs and blood elves at launch?
>>747630473>>747632037They only add the special elves to spite the people that want high elves because Ion Hazzikostas is a Californian anti-white liberal faggot that thinks high elf fans are racists that want an Aryan stand-in.
>>747634410>The Garithos thing is like one fucking guy being a dickheadIf a high elven military general had kidnapped anduin and sentenced him to execution, regardless of whether he was just one dickhead or not, do you really think relations between the two races wouldn't be soured?>three of the four races in the Horde have actively tried to genocide the high elves within living memoryQuel Thalas has never had encounters with the darkspear, the forsaken are a special case of they were literally mind controlled zombies that now have free will (and are lead by a zombie high elf to boot) and the orcs being repentant for their demon blood fuelled invasions is the same story as their relationship with every other race they fought with.
>>747635391>Quel Thalas has never had encounters with the darkspear, the forsaken are a special case of they were literally mind controlled zombies that now have free will (and are lead by a zombie high elf to boot) and the orcs being repentant for their demon blood fuelled invasions is the same story as their relationship with every other race they fought with.Right, so the humans don't get a pass, because one faction of them wanted them dead, but>the trolls that are their ancient enemies, just with some different skin color now, do>the undead that nearly wiped them out, but are lead by someone else now, do>the orcs who--come the fuck onnta btw
>>747635748ignore the fag, anon
>>747630473Undead should not be in the same faction as orcs. Besides maybe undead belfs/helfs that decide to join belfs, if it even makes sense for belfs to ally with orcs and trolls.Undead humans should not ally with orcs to fight their living relatives, it's retarded. WoW faction and race system is silly and ruined Warcraft.
>>747633926>Enjoy 90-10 faction population splitsOh yeah just like vanillaOh waitBy the way you know you can just limit faction populations right? Dumb chink shill
>>747637134That's for wow II. I generally agree with the sentiment though, yeah
>>747637387It makes things worse for the writers, because races have to stay under "Horde" and "Alliance", which means any sensible writing on politics and shifting alliances go out of the window.But undead humans in same faction as orcs is just bad. Scourge is one things, but undead that are not mindless enslaved zombies would just stay on the side of their living relatives, for the most part, or just neutral.
It's turbo-ruined Warcraft made to shit on WCIII from the very beginning, why would anyone care about it ruining itself? Over some elves on both sides of all things? None of you are real, not a single person cares about this dogshit slopgame.
>>747630587One of the faction leaders of the Horde in World of Warcraft(2004) is an elf.
