40k games show soldiers dying in droves, sometimes being used as actual meatshields>grimdark ;) that's what mature people such as myself likeStarcraft show Tyler1 getting turned into liquid shit>wtf this is literal antiwar propaganda! What do you mean why didn't I enlist?
>>747631656The difference is everyone in the 40k universe knows they're fucked. There is a certain appeal to a setting where average people try their best against impossible odds.Starcraft is just copying Helldivers and ye old trope of military lied, military bad.
>>747631752The oddity is that Starcraft also had people who knew they were in deep shit from higher ups who fucked them, but that had space rednecks, and we can't be having any of those anymore.
>>747631752the very reason why terran marines were ex convicts is because they were disposable, just because we didn't see them crying in the cutscenes over being fucked over doesn't mean they had it good
>>747631752>Starcraft is just copying Helldivers and ye old trope of military lied, military bad.I didn't watch, not gonna watch it probs. But StarCraft was always about that.
>>747631656The controversy is fake and gay. The marine looks scared for half a second, who cares?
A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic
>>747631656i really dont like his face, they really just took an african and gave him white skin and light eyes. very weird and dysgenic to look at
>>747631656>Tyler1nah, it's babybay
>>747631656This game won''t be terribly popular because starcraft is only interesting to asiatic homunculi who yank their willies to APM>1000
it doesn't make sense how he got so liquidified inside his armor
>>747631656People don't like Blizzard so they just want to be mad about something.
>>74763165640k shows guys dying sure, but the bootleg starship troopers trailer shows mystery meat bro getting brainwashed by le heckin fascist propagada and then killedy by le bugs.
>>747632082hydralisk acid
>>747631752>The difference is everyone in the 40k universe knows they're fucked.erm, xir? your Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer?
>>747631656Sc marines have always been disposable fodder, you guys are exposing yourselves
>>747632154>bro getting brainwashed by le heckin fascist propagada and then killedy by le bugsfortunately Warhammer never had brainwashed people fighting insectoids
>>747631656people who cant afford pc or a console entertain themselves by complainig and creating drama
>>747632154Sounds based. I just hope the MC you play as isn't a mutt though.
why'd the drop them infront of a massive horde instead of just bombing from orbit, are they retarded?
>>747632227>game is about space americans>and descendants of criminals at thatwell...
>>747632213And I'd never want to expose myself.
>>74763165640k soldiers, the ones being sent to die in droves, are helplessly outmatched and expected to die in the tens of thousands at least. Most are lied to and sent to die against enemies they were never prepared for.Starcraft marines in the past seemed to be a mix of prisoner who took a bargain or a guy collecting a paycheck. In the latter, everyone loyal enough moved up in rank.In this new one they seem to be going for loyal helpless retard which seems bizarre because of the power armor adding a bunch of logistical dubiousness to it.
>>747632216Everyone knows that both ripped off from ST, 40k plays it straight though, humans are expendable and that's how the setting treats them there's no "look how the facism destroyed this young man's life wink wink nudge nudge".
>>747631656>Tiresome trite Karenshit repeated for the hundredth time because they only know ONE le heckin' deeperino take on War and conflict>Against literal man-eating bugs. Again. Because all they can do is ape other shit and parrot crap.
>>747632371>look how the facism destroyed this young man's life wink wink nudge nudgethat's the entire premise of space marines
>>747632332You know that the Terran military of each major and minor Terran faction isn't made up wholly of "resocialized" criminals and that there are people who are of non-criminal backgrounds who joined the military?
>>747632332Actually most Guards regiments are recruited from the top 10% of the planets populace, many cultures have serving as a Guardsman as the highest honor possible, people kill eachother for the chance of being picked. And they are the fittest, smartest most pure humans have to offer in 40k. and you look at the art and they're all hideous goons, and that is exactly what the best are in the future.
>>747632406Oh boy, here we go again.Yeah, you tell that shitlord, xister! The Empire are the heckin' problematic bad guys!!!
what if this trailer was not some grand stance on war but black humour? Ever thought about that you sad cunts?
>>747632406Space marines are the valiant defenders of humanity and angels of the emperor. That's how they're portrayed straight up.
>>747632406In 40k all the heckin ebil fascisms are in fact justified and necessary.
>>747632476>What if this shit that directly reflects the absolute soft-skulled braindead retard take on scifi fiction that every single fucking redditor pseudointellectual has been parroting for the past 30 years was just a joke, haha, we were just pretending to be retarded!!!
>>747632447Did you know I already mentioned that, but you can't read?
as per usual no one complaining about these dudes dying horribly has actually played starcrafthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLa57NTGfnI
It would be fine as an interquel between 1 and 2, but after the ending of 2 depicting the settings as being grimdark is retarded.
>>747632621>complaining about these dudes dying horribly
>>747632167Hydralisks shoot spines.
>>747631752Life as a human in the Koprulu sector is also fucked unless you're a merchant or your last name is MengskYou do realize Dominion Marines are mostly convicts and unwanted human trash
>>747632473so you're telling me space marines don't undergo hypno-indoctrination or what?>>747632479they are propagandized as such >>747632538it's not even actual facism but 40k fanbase is so fucking retarded they consider a caste system communist
>>747631656Starcraft treats the Terrans as a punching bag and it's getting exhausting
>>747632758shouldn't be the case anymore after valerian fix it up. That's my issue with this gay ass trailer. Basically went back to the dark tone of 1 but is still set after 2.
>>747632551yeah kenny from south park is also a political manifesto dude xD
>>747631752>Helldiverswould be cool if we could play ether zerg, protoss or terran and just go all out a la battlefront
>>747632779No, they undergo normal indoctrination recruits into a military organization would receive on top of the quasi-religious undertones that they get as well. It's kind of the point so you have people all working towards a similar goal they more or less agree is good.
>>74763165640k fans don't actually have any standards or personality beyond giving gw money so they hold the writing of other settings to an impossible standard that they would never hold 40k writing to
The 'modern' 41st millennia Guardsman is weak and pathetic as hell because their predecessors fucked shit up real good during the Horus Heresy.The average Terran Marine is either a criminal fused into the suit like Tychus in SC2 or a brainwashed chud like the random mook in the new trailer. Raynor's raiders are a mix of Mar Sara Marines and other Confederate and other faction professional soldiers and mercenaries.Nigga also lasted more than 9 seconds so he's technically an elite Marine. Since they also recovered his armor along with the others that meant that the Dominion won and his unit was just bait until the veterans and elites arrived.
>>747631752What is wrong with copying a trope exactly if it's done well?
>>747632874You sure? https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hypno-Indoctrination
>>747632779>So you're telling me Lord Blood Cum of the Rape Demon murder fucking warband wants to murder-fuck everyone and that the opposing empire in a comically ridiculous grimdark setting uses comically grimdark means to oppose them?>Heh... fucking fascists!!! Obviously they're just victims of discrimination fighting back!!
>>747632914>it's done wellit's not
>>747632929>To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.hey, cry at games workshop they are the ones who said it's the cruelest regime possible
I've already preordered the game, btw.
>>747632914Seems like it wasn't done well and everyone thinks it was shit other than the (((modern audience))) in Mumbai running defense for it.
>>747632794I mean, from a story perspective they're really going to have to try some big shit to justify everything going to hell yet again with the Zerg or Protoss, though it's Blizzard so shit just "always happens" I guess. From a meta perspective, though, after the Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 era, I think no one's bothered about the tone shift at least.
>>747631656>Tyler1Kek how is that faggot doing nowadays ?
>>747632928About as sure as I am that you've been hypno-indoctrinated to suck cock.
>>747632940Nah it was a cool trailer. Lots of details. You even notice the welding janny fixing the power armor for him before he puts it on for the first time on a rewatch. I think you're just jaded or something idk.
why is this entire thread just double digit IQ people literally getting offended by the portrayal of the Mengsk regime from starcraft because "being cannon fodder for an aggressive self-serving totalitarian regime is very based, actually"? literally the defining moment of Arcturus Mengsks charachter arc and nearly the whole starcraft universe is when it is made clear that he will not only commit atrocities, but throw his own people under the bus like worthless trash to serve is own ambitions. the trailer seems dead on in its portrayal of his regime.
>>747632045He looks like the average Amerimutt which is what the StarCraft marines are
>>747633013I'm not talking about how well-made the trailer is
>>747632970The image you posted is ironic because you're the one trying to turn cool space soldiers into le woke le modern audience nonsense.
>>747631656https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnL3GjOIb_MThe brave white men of the (ex-Confederacy) Empire
>>747632961>Comical over the top grimdark setting is grimdark and comically over the topA setting which I personally believe is shit and retarded, by the way, which I'll tell you now since I already know you're starting to gear up to fight that little strawman in your head. Because hell, here you are arguing about 40k after doing literal whataboutisms to cover for the starcraft trailer being fucking retarded goyslop built on tiresome redditfaggot sensibilities.>>747633016See >>747632682
>>747632332why is it bizarre? did you even play the fucking games? after Mengsk over threw the confederacy, his new regime revolved around heavy propaganda and militairism. the trailer is perfectly in line with the lore that was established in the fucking 90s
>>747633047Then what are you even talking about because this whole thread is about the trailer
>>747633097feel free to (you) me when you have an argument, my low IQ friend
>>747633143Mengsk senior, not junior. The Dominion shouldn't be gay grimdark 40k knockoff anymore after he fixed it up.
>>747633012So this is what? A hallucination right? You of course play the game you are so asshurt about?
>>747633182>he doesn't know
>>747632332Because 115 IQ midwits watched the Starship Troopers movie and didn’t read the book, and ever since then "Starship Troopers" has meant "lol what if we had Vietnam in space" instead of being a meditation on what civil service means
>>747633204This may very well be before Valerian takes hold and SC2 ends, though. Everyone seems to be assuming it's a sequel to 2 and not a prequel or in the middle of that entire storyline.
40k is literally built off stolen starcraft lore so no they do not get a pass
Will the UED return?
>>747633235Only one ass mad is you, but I guess that's because it's been a while since you've sucked a cock.
>>747633097You impress me with how warlike you are, pretty much modern Ares. Tell me your military rank.
>>747633092>Literally just aping that All Quiet on the Western Front demake>>747633186>Y-your dum!!! neener neener neener, I won't listen to your reasons!!!Retarded pseud faggot. You're not entitled to an argument when you're deliberately refusing to argue in good faith.
>>747633279>get proven wrong>out yourself as not even knowing the fucking rulebook>b-but cocks?yeah kill yourself
>>747633016It's an IQ and a non-tinfoil MK Ultra test. If you cant separate fact from fiction, you are a retard. These are the same people who go "Guys we are like totally like star wars rebels or gryffindor! Anti-establishment people are just like death eaters or the empire!!!"
>>747633250no, retard. It's confirmed to be set 70 years after SC2
>>747633250The new game is set 70 years after the events of Starcraft II. The Dominion becoming a happy hippie peace nation would also be gay.
don't you understand you fucking libtards? Imperium was NEVER portrayed as incompetent
>>747631752>ye old trope of military lied, military bad.Everyone knows this.The difference 40k has to some other scifi is that everything is basically supernatural. Everyone knows they're fucked, sure, but everyone also knows that the world is completely unpredictable and that there are supernatural powers affecting everything. In more grounded scifi, it's just an unavoidable fact that if you're sent to a brutal war, you will die. You won't magically get the power to survive against unlikely odds, unless the military command allocates enough resources to make sure you survive.
>>747632713mutalisk acid
>>747633280I'm a Brigadier Marshall of the 1337th Meme Division.Strawmanning faggot.>>747633235>But WHAT ABOUT THIS OTHER IP?!?!!
>>747632258not enough minerals
>>747632874>No, they undergo normal indoctrination recruits into a military organization would receivewhat the fuck are you even on about? You really don't know first thing about this setting don't you secondary?
>>747632551I don't get why election tourists cling to this anime, or the fact they don't realize the heat chart proves they lack empathy outside of a select inner circle.Also why are election tourists going all in over shitting on Star Craft? Snoy bombing again?
>>747633394Yeah, I was thinking the same. Especially since the hit didn't do that much damage to his armor, which would be in line of the weak 2nd and 3rd bouncing hit from mutas.
>>747633285im happy to listen to your reasons, feel free to actually provide some
>>747631656>Starcraft show Tyler1 getting turned into liquid shitkekked
>>747631656I don't give a fuck about terransI want to be a psychic alien slashing people, then after I get crippled turned into a tiny spider tank
>>747633413what "other IP"? This is fucking 10th edition rulebook in answer to retard who said space marines are not indoctrinated. The great Warhammer warriors don't recognize fucking warhammer?
>>747632473Lord Blood Cum is just a misunderstood victim of bigotry, chud!
>>747633413>all that greentext in your pic just to say "I HECKING HUMAN HEART HITLER"
>trailer about a marine getting melted into goo>incomprehensible outrage for no reason at all because it's supposed to be political somehow /v/ is filled with too many retards now jumping at their own shadows
>>747632054if you know either of those names you're a waste of breath and a dissapointment
>>747633540my only problem is that it's out of place for something set after 2 where friendship and magic united to defeat the evil nazi megachud amon
>>747633469>mutalisk acid bounces of armorThat's just a mechanic in the RTS, that doesn't actually happen. That slime on his armor pretty much stuck in there
>>747633285I don't think there's any problem with copying a scene from a movie if it's a good scene. The death star dogfight in Star wars heavily copies the dam busters and everyone loves that. Meanwhile there's a character in Warhammer who uses a cursed sword named malus darkblade and is poorly written Elric copy. Why don't you criticize stuff like that if you're gonna criticize Starcraft?
People seem to be taking it too seriously. Trailer seemed to be more about rule of cool instead of realism and sensibilitiesIt also seemed like it drew inspiration from the Klendathu landing from Starship Troopers which I enjoyedI think some people might be too direction-brained
>>747633540im getting /pol/ fatigue. these people are unronically hitting tranny levels of neuroticism
>>747633540/pol/ is leaking again because Ukraine, Israel and the US haven't collapsed yet no matter how many times they tapped the sign
>>747633630pol is the most reddit board on this site right now so you should feel at home there
>>747631656starcraft cant even do grimdark righthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hD3KBwoiA
>>747633490Not that guy, but the indoctrination you posted isn't about ideology but about rapidly impletementing tactical knowledge.They don't need any ideological indoctrination because everone already is just by living as an imperial citizen.
>>747633618its pulled almost directly from the netflix all quiet on the western front intro where it shows old uniforms being repaired and redistributed to new soldiers who are "brainwashed" into fighting for the existence of their peopleits pretty clearly cucked "war is le bad" slop
>>747633585It said so on the old SC2 website.
>>747633472See >>747632385These motherfuckers are a goddamn broken record while screaming about "media literacy". It's a fucking rerun, except this time they finally learned pic related, but then took the wrong lesson from it and decided>Hmm, I see... so we need to make them all look like SHITAnd forgot that then they're failing to make an entertainment product and it's just their unfiltered propaganda in that case. We don't give a FUCK about whatever retarded "message" you're going for, for the twentieth time, we're just sick of hearing your fucking noise.Damn near every fucking Starcraft cutscene has Terrans dying or getting fucked over. The difference is that it wasn't blatant slop made by fucking bluehairs.>>747633490>>747633617This is a STARCRAFT thread, you fucking whataboutism faggots.
"warhammer" 40k community>call hooved creatures with caste system fish communists>lots of trannies in the fanbase because of Mechanicus>gay powercreep lore with primaris marines, soon there will be giga marines>as this thread showed they don't even play the game itself lmaoWarhammer Fantasy Battle™ >everyone understands the basics of the fucking factions, no one will tell you ogres actually represent victorian england>trannies and gays don't know the setting because it's not featured on youtube>reasonable scale>dedicated fanbasexisters I advise you to talk about your Dune ripoff on reddit instead
Blizzard is literally /ourdev/.
If you hate this trailer you might have a pussy. should get that checked out.
>>747633728Fuck I guess novels from the 1920s are woke now
>>747633748>>trannies and gays don't know the setting because it's not featured on youtubeI fucking wish. The Total War game opened the floodgates. Warhammer Fantasy was very niche until 2016.
>>747633727>They don't need any ideological indoctrinationthey do unless you're gonna argue with regular SM rulebook
>>747633748>People start shitting on Warhammer >All the sudden the Warhammer fantasy shill shows up to peddle his wares Hmmmm
It is currently 3PM in India.>>747633770>>747633776>>747633832
>>747633789yes? 1920s were literally post-establishment of communism
>>747633831it might, but total war warhammer is unironically one of the most based game on the market right now. There is not a SINGULAR brown or nigger in the entire game. None.>inb4 female warrioryeah, but there's no nigger so I'll give that a pass.
>>747633832But thats not true. Astartes do tactical retreat, they are not stupid.
>>74763165640k does it unironically and takes itself seriously, therefore succeeding.Starcraft tried to do a Helldivers 2 and failed miserably at it because it didn't go whole hog.
>>747633909>post rulebook>but that's not truekek what is true to you faggots, the YT essays which are your only contact with the franchise?
>>747633832I guess I should've also said mental conditioning?It doesn't make them buy into 'imperial propaganda' or cult of the emperor any more than they already are was the point.>regular SM rulebookThese rulebooks contradict old shit all the time btw. 40k people have constant chimpouts about it.
>>747633947>40k>unironically
>>747633789Did you think the Weimar Krauts were burning fucking dictionaries?If everyone who ever disagrees with you is an evil Nahtzee heckin' chud, then wouldn't it make sense where "woke" (The ebil term used by CHUDS who dare to commit wrongthink against your reasonable and totally not emotion-based belief systems), would encompass all the shit the ebil nahtzees were opposed to?>>747633958Which Space Marine chapters are active in the Koprulu sector?
I guess the reason the Terran's armor has the durability of a cardboard box is probably because they really didn't want to have a beef with GW but it makes the thing even more retarded considering they just last 6 seconds with it...Might as well go full imperial guard; the heavy loss of mobility is not worth it.
>>747633962good thing them being indonctrinated is old lore then
>>747633746eeh, once again though, the trailer is literally just the dominion being the dominion. if youre tired of the trope, thats fine, but nothing about it is new or different because of "bluehairs" or whatever. the themes and imagery are all thoroughly established at this point
>>747634040>Which Space Marine chapters are active in the Koprulu sector?what does it have to do with anything
>>747633728Wow cant believe saying war is bad is woke now.
>>747634070The Dominion should have cleaned up its act by this point though, otherwise all of SC2 is pointless after all the shit Raynor and Kerrigan both did to tard wrangle it.
>>747634109it is woke. Did you not read 1984 and see the real message of how vital war is in keeping societies grounded and not retarded?
people who can't open a jar without help will tell me the most about war lmao nigga you wouldn't pass the fucking bootcamp shut yo ass up and paint your toys
>>747634041Terran armour is okay, Zerg acid is just that good.
>>747634132>otherwise all of SC2 is pointlessCompletely disregarding everything that happened in SC2 would be based beyond belief.
>>747634174>actually Orwell was pro warxD
>>747634241this but unironically
>>747633876If enjoying literature makes me a woke communist I guess I'm a woke communist now
>>747631656Remember when Starcraft vs 40k console war used to be a thing?
>>747631656>Tyler1holy shit he does look like him lol
Literature is woke and frankly problematic, you should own the libs and buy these instead.
>>747634310
War is the definition of goyslop.
>>747633570>how dare you know significant people in the area of gaming you should kill yourself now>omg is that james rolf aka teh ANGRY VIDEOGAME NERD? oh my heccin childhood thats so epic sauce
Starcraft is like Duplo compared to 40k being Lego Technic.I just can't take the lore seriously after being exposed to 40k
>>747634456SC1-era lore was far superior to 40k ever could. SC2 and after is gay and retarded
>>747631656Most 40k militaries are not well trained, only war survivor or specific few chadmen get to be trained properlyMeanwhile in StoogeCraft he shitting his pants as soon as he deployed
half of you guys argue against points no one made and honestly should kill yourselves
>>747634070The presentation is entirely bluehair.That brood war cutscene of the battlecruiser leaving orbit and leaving the guys on the ground for dead still had the War is Hell stuff and all the betrayal. Hell, it even had diversity!It's bluehaired Karens because men already fucking understand that War can be bad. I just want to fucking shoot aliensm yet dumb bitches who aren't signed up for the draft are yapping in my fucking ear about how fictional war against giant fucking bug creatures is bad.They've been doing this shit since the fucking SIXTIES! They try to apply a blanket aversion to war while completely fucking ignoring the concept of justified violence and a defending your peoples and homeland. Then they turn around and put a fucking blue and yellow flag on their social media picture because it's fucking trendy! The virtue signalling motherfuckers are faker than the fucking mechanical ayys in the original ST movie.>>747634109Saying it on repeat and infecting every single piece of FICTIONAL media with it despite the enemies being literal man-eating bugs is and has always been a shit take.
>>747634361Nigga you're the one who just said novels from the 1920s are woke because they came after the invention of communism, you're the one who isn't understanding what your own words mean
>>747634456>I just can't take the lore seriously after being exposed to 40klol what 40k lore isnt that greati do like it but its nothing special except being very over the top which is okay for the setting and the prospect of selling overpriced figurines
>>747634492I love SC1 but you're retarded.
devs should only make the kind of stories I agree with! >:(I'm not a snowflake btw I'm manly I watch John Wick on repeat so I know a thing or two about combat
Does nobody else find it odd they're reusing Marine suits when resources are so plentiful that only a handful of mined crystals can establish a base after planetfall?
>>747634456And 40k is duplo compared to moorcock and dune
>>747634603nuh uh
>>747631656The galaxy is harsh and unforgiving and our enemies surround us. So I ask you this. Do you feel safe? The Swarm have returned to destroy our lands and slaughter our families. WIL YOU LET THEM?The so-called first born judge us from the shadows. Will you beg THEM FOR SALVATION? What will you do to protect our people? WILL YOU FLEE OR WILL YOU FIGHT? Then let's begin. You are the best and brightest the the dominion has to offer. You are singular. You are unstoppable. Millions of lives depend on you. You cannot. you will not be defeated. You are warriors. You are the elite. And the Dominion will give you the training, the tools, and the opportunity to feed your spirit AND FULFILL YOUR DESTINY.You will become the greatest fighting force the sector has ever seen. You fight now for a cause that will echo through history.YOU FIGHT NOW FOR MANKIND'S VERY SURVIVAL. You will become more than just recruits. You will become more than just soldiers. You will become heroes. Now go forth FOR THE GLORY OF THE DOMINION.
>>747634718Dune turns into some guys drug fueled fever dream, but I guess that was the style at the time.
>>747634748this kinda makes me realize the anti-war message is even more retarded because the Dominion is fighting defensively.>no goyim when you are invaded don't fight back cuz all war is bad
>>747632045he looks like your generic criminal under-class mongrel you can find in any anglosphere big city
Chadcraft>poster boys are criminal texans>setting isn't bloated, three main races each fleshed out>dark but not overblown40kringe>poster boys are some child soldiers worshipping a turk>each of the milion races has 20 subfactions too, half of them the same shit>every story is about how on the street corner of a random planet with perpetual acid rain 3 milion people per minute die, planetary governor Grim Sadman eats fetuses in his free time because he is secretly a chaos cultist, then some random marine chapter no one heard about killed him in 2 seconds but it was fruitless because he already summoned the shambler from Quake
>>747634807It literally only gets better as the series goes on (except for children of dune which was a step down) so you got filtered. You got double filtered if you skipped the encyclopedia.
>>747632621This game's trailer is also just doing the same thing Doom 2016's intro did:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ienu85W5RkkPretty standard narrative technique. These threads since the trailer came out do always have people mentioning the lore on how long SC marines are known to last in battle, I know those people know but that is the point of this trailer. We've known the answer for decades and all the trailer really did was confirm it's still true. Still not sure about the game but it shouldn't be hard for them to do better than super saiyan Kerrigan (played by current nerd crush) saves the universe.
>>747634843how do you know what themes Dominion will have if we didn't even see the main characters let alone plot synopsis
>>747634896ancient anatolians are indo-aryan.
>>747634950must be hard being this stupid.
>>747634970yes and his brown skin and jet black hair makes him nordic we all know 40k "fans" (who only know the setting from Dawn of War if that) have a different version of reality
>>747635004yeah I do feel sorry for you
>>747635019notice how you have to use the nordic strawman because you have no point
>>747633454>Retard trying to deflect onto some consolefaggotry pretends not to realize that some retards such as himself lack thoughtful empathy in general, any loyalty to those close to them, and instead feel thoughtless emotion-based sympathy toward those who may be their enemies and that it's only natural to consider such "people" to be unreliable and undesirable to be close to.
>>747634970indo-european but not indo-aryan not like a whorehammer sissy knows anything about anything
>>747634937I got as far as God-Emperor Dune and never got around to finishing the rest of it. Giant emperor worm Leto waxing philosophical about mankind's inherent desire to be ruled was definitely an interesting read.
>>747635052emperor wuz white and shietto be fair where you are from he propably would be
>>747635126replace mankind with women and he'd have a point
>>747635160>literally posts a white man
>>747631656disgusting trailermodern libtards are disgustingi can just see them giggling and screaming >kill the fascists!!111behind the screen
you will find 0 browns among Warhammer Fantasy fans but pretty much only browns among 40k and it really shows
>>747633478There really are so many franchises that could just get 40 different genres of games made instead of getting sequels and remasters and remakesStarcraft lends itself to a shooter with terrans or an action game with protos super wellOr even a PvP 1v1v1 teams kinda like Natural Selection
>>747635216>brown skin and black hair are white characteristicsabout what I expected Pablo
>>747631752the opening cutscene of brood war is dedicated entirely to a marine realizing his superiors are just going to fly away and watch him get torn to shreds because they don't care if he lives or diesculture war faggot that doesn't play games he talks about, or just a bot. i'm unsure which is more grim
>>747631752If you read the old 1998 manual's Terran section, it's grimdark shit back to back. Marines are drug addled slave soldiers and ghosts are stolen children forced into invasive surgeries and SEAL team training and most die. Firebat suits malfunction frequently. It all around has an "everything sucks and we're all going to die" vibe.
>>747635273That's not brown skin.>white people can't have black hairretard.
>>747632045Clearly based on the sexy felon. No wonder he was conscripted.
>>747635274I don't think those were even his men, the UED just showed up to unleash some Zerg on some colonists to see what the aliens were capable of. They likely could've turned the tide of that battle, but that was never the point of them being there.
>>747635347>>white people can't have black haircorrect you dumb fuck what are you an arab pretending to be white?
>>747635273>reddit definition of racekek
>>747635274The armor of UED marines is painted white. The UED battle cruiser was just observing the zerg attacking a random Terran colony and then fucking off.
>>747632045>white skinif this is not the biggest proof /v/ is infested with huehue monkeys and sea niggers nothing is
>>747632045We’re all going to look like that within centuries due to globalization, anon.
>>747635274no one would complain if the trailer was set in the brood war era, retard.
>>747635365>actually you don't need to be white to be white besides we are one race - the human race :)
>>747631752Everyone in the Koprulu sector knows they're fucked, lol.
The dumb thing about this shit is that as far as Humanity are concerned, the Zerg are an existential threat. The dude is dead whether he fights or not. Dumb trailer.
>>747635437within centuries we will have cracked genetics modification and even the niggriest african will look like a nordic god.
>>747635443then what is your fucking complaint even? That some random kid dying would be acceptable in different time frame but post SC2 you are being infected with wokeness?
>>747635453Correct, "white" is a construct made up by anglos to carve up the world geopolitically in service of jews.
>>747635492my point exactly. This trailer seems so jewish>when you fight the existential threat to protect your home you're a goy
>>747635437What if that's not true and some groups deliberately remain isolated? The Chinese aren't so big on the multiculturalism bit and keep their minorities in the minority of their population. Meanwhile you got Europeans being pushed out of their ancestral homelands and the Koreans having a gender war and going extinct. Leaving the south open for Best Korea to take over the peninsula.
>>747635543so, which part of latin america are you from?
>>747632045thankfully, the based zerg fixed it
>>747635509it should be easy to infer, anon. Go on, you can do it. Who's good little anon?
>>747633252What
Aren't marines in Starcraft supposed to be drug crazed violent convicts?
I agree with you guys whites dont exist it's a social construct. So don't come to Europe, you should go to America instead, Europe is turbonazi and believes in such outdated concepts you'd be welcomed with open arms in the United States of America
>>747635681I wish. Sweden just voted for more assrapes and browns
>>747635492>>747635550This is still blizzard we're talking about here. It's far more likely the zerg turn out to be good boys that dindu nuffin and the dominion is interfering with their project to save everyone from something, leading us to team up with them and a diverse protoss ally via the power of friendship or something.
>>747633016This thread is being raided by a culture war faggot that can't let it go, so he's trying to argue past you instead of argue with you, like they often do.
>>747635160He was born in northwestern Anatolia thousands of years before browns got there.
>>747634456I think most people agree with this whether they admit it or not.
>>747635709the left can't meme kek
>>747635734>actually entire world was white and shietdon't forget nordic chinese emperors and pharaohsfuck off with this reverse wewuzing it muddles the waters so jews can say >see everyone always relocated!
>>747635706Well they did actually turn out to be dindu nuffins in SC2 if you go by the ending.
>>747635797unironically there were white chinese emperors. the jews are trying to hide just how much the white man has lost over the millennia.
Do you guys consider this movie woke too or does it get a pass because it's older than you?
>>747632473That’s not what left actually fights for, though.
>>747635437and you're not gonna live long enough to see it. A AI Datacenter will be built over your corpse.
>>747635854killing niggers can never be woke. them's the rules I didn't write them
>>747635852>unironically there were white chinese emperorssuch as?
>>747635772Based anti-pol comic
>>747633454>proves they lack empathy outside of a select inner circle.no it shows empathy for everyone, but more empathy for the people closer to them, which is normalthe leftist chart shows they will sell their own guys out in a mirrored situation with an other.
>>747635854Would that movie be made today?
>>747635898
>>747631752Starcraft was always more brutal than 40k in terms of what is depicted in their respective gameplay. In a game of 40k, your battle sounds are a bunch of dice rolls, and some nerds murmuring. If a guardsman dies you calmly pick up a little plastic model and remove him from the tabletop. In Starcraft if a terran marine dies he explodes into a pile of gore on screen and you actually fucking hear it. 40k relies on written fluff and cringe CGI shorts of space marines, space marines, space marines... Hey guys, this is totally what the tabletop is like if you use your imagination! Nevermind you only have like 2 dozen marines in a table top, actually it's a bajillion all at once across an entire planet! No, actually a TRILLION guardsman were just nuked, like, DUDE! You don't even get the absolute SCALE of 40k.
>>747635854>Film dramatization of a real life military operation that went tits up because of bad intel and one lucky niglet with an rpg. Cue another rapidly devised rescue operation to collect the survivors while the entire population of the city turn into violent gun-toting zombies lusting for the blood of foreigners.No.
why are starcraft fans so sensible whenever 40k is mentioned?
>>747635854Why would that movie be considered woke? It's not anti-war. Doesn't make out like soldiers were tricked into fighting a hopeless battle. Doesn't pretend that what is going on is western imperialism or any of that shit. Made sure to show locals who were happy they were they and celebrated their sacrifices.
>>747632258bunker rush, but it didn't work because zerg went 6pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOHY7rUFzl8fellas, is losing soldiers woke?
>>747631752This.Also the Imperium isn't even the worst, they're shit but the whole galaxy is even shittier.
>>747631656This didn't feel like a starcraft game at all.
>>747636009sensitive, not sensible. Sensible would be we all talk it out like gentlemen
>>747635970pretty slanted eyes for a white guy. What is his name?
>>747631752>There is a certain appeal to a setting where average people try their best against impossible odds.>average peopleLMAOPeak Golem self-delusion.
>>747636018because at the very beginning you see a young guy who is all pumped up and talks about kicking ass then gets fucked up, exactly like in the trailer you are asshurt about
>>747636087Ho Lee Fuk
>>747632473>The Empire are the heckin' problematic bad guys!!!Kind of yeah since guy on the right exists only because of Empire, or rather Emperor desire to build interstellar bronze age kingdom to cope with his failed attempt to overtake humanity via religion.
>>747635987What is even your point when SC now has a tabletop game, and that 40k has had RTS for a while? And ironically the former is probably going to be more competent than what Blizzard can shit out today.
>>747632473Chaos is fucking rad
>>747635970first of all Han Qinhu was a general not an emperor you idiot second he was not noted for any foreign features or ancestry third your own pic shows a zipperhead
>>747636087Bang Ding Ow
>>747631752this the whole point of grimderp 40k is knowing you’re a replaceable cog and loving it
>>747636087Wii tu Low
>>747636252So when are you moving to Russia fren?
>>747636124Which one is that? The guy who falls and everyone jokes about it? That's a moment of levity in the film. He's forgotten about five minutes later.
>>747633013>Nah it was a cool trailer. Lots of details.they basically just took the first 5 minutes of the all quiet on the western front 2022. it was well-done, but i haven't had any faith in blizzard to deliver a good RTS game since they skewed balance in favor of zerg with heart of the swarm.
>>747636293And he still portrayed the "gung ho young lad gets a reality check" trope, same as Mr Chocolate from starcraft game
>>747636284
>>747636009>sensibleThe word you're looking for is "sensitive".And the answer to your question is because they either know that SC is a 40k ripoff and are mad about it, or they are too young to know that SC is a 40k ripoff and get mad when told about it. Pic related is a caricature from 2000, btw.I, personally, find it hilarious that despite Starcraft having all the chances and money to evolve into an independent franchise, ~30 years later Blizzard went back to aping 40k.Then again, Blizzard has been creatively bankrupt for over a decade. They cannot let go the people who made the company go to shit, and they cannot hire people who would manage to drag it out of shit, so they have resorted to rehashing their old work. And cooking the same turd under a different sauce for the Nth time will not turn it into a steak.I also lol'd at zoomer secondaries ITT screaming at each other about shit they know nothing about.
>>747636470>And he still portrayed the "gung ho young lad gets a reality check" tropeNo, he's not. He portrayed as an idiot that fell out of a helicopter and people laugh at his expense and the audience is expected to as well and then he vanishes from the remaining 80% of the film. He's a minor joke, not a major character. He's not really there for a point to be made.
>>747636084>sensitive, not sensible. Sensible would be we all talk it out like gentlemennow that would be something
>>747636073games?
>>747636073totally different vibe
>>747631752You're totally wrong. The average imperial is just as ignorant as anyone else.Just look at what the Imperial infantryman's uplifting primer is teaching them about orks.They really don't know how fucked they are until it's too late.
>everyone pointlessly arguing about semantics between IPs and ideologies and retarded tribalbaitfags circlejerkingObjective fact is, that the trailer tried to jump on the "muh media literacy" space military fiction train with extra mystery meat (and failing). When it should've been a scarred idealized space marine with two cigars in his mouth who goes>Hell, it's about time... againbefore he lights up the monstrous aliens. The inability of letting fiction be sincere and cool has done untold damage to western media. And with this they also struck the iron as it is put into cold storage, because the usual detractors already very successfully made enjoying that particular style of fiction an absolutely miserable experience, regurgitation pseudo-intellectual bullshit at everyone 24/7 without even the basic common sense to comprehend that someone might be into fiction for its own sake (insane concept, I know).
>>747636220that's not Han Qinhu
>>747636846>Orks are notoriously too stupid to dieThe only true thing in that bit of the primer.
>>747636568Games Workshop just stole everything from 2000AD anyway.
>>747635509These things you are talking to aren't human.
>>747631656the difference between old media and new is that old one wasnt spearheaded agitprop for the next american election
>>747637026the same people who made judge dredd also worked for games workshop
>>747635274>the opening cutscene of brood war is dedicated entirely to a marine realizing his superiors are just going to fly away and watch him get torn to shreds because they don't care if he lives or diesYou haven't played the game despite going on to complain about people not having played the game. They fly away because they were only there to observe, the guys on the ship orchestrated the zerg attack themselves. It's the fucking plot of the pre-brood war campaign
>>747635947Why doesn't he reply, seems like a legit question. A great question even, that should be asked every time they talk about how>things have always been like this
>>747637026WH40k is an amalgamation of 80's fiction tropes that became an independent universe and evolved, developing its own art style and atmosphere as the decades passed. Starcraft had a chance to do the same, but Blizzard fired the entirety of its old team and hired a bunch of troons instead.
>>747637026Everything in 40k is reworked something else. The Catachans made that clear to me and I was on 12 when they released.
>>747631656God that trailer was so fucking soulless, modern Blizzard has no idea how to work in an art style. Funny because SC1 and SC2 both had their own unique art styles that everyone loved while this looks like UE5 DLSS slop
>>747637165they did not
>>747636902Not everything has to be played 100% straight without any symbolism.This is an extremely mild and grim in-universe cynical trailer.There's no drumpf bad "well that happened" . It doesn't deserve the stink kicked up around it.
Media illiterate libtards are completely unaware it seems that in both warhammer and starcraft its the bugs who are genocidal invaders, and terra's government is a pure reaction to this fact.So their moral is to just give up, just let it happen bro. Suicide cult, truly.
They're both lame.Sci fi should be about exploration and mystery not war.
>>747631752Nigger have you EVER played starcraft?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-00uQzXyujIMarines are expendable chaff units. Always have been.
>>747637324It doesn't fit the feel of the setting, /pol/ fags don't know how to explain but it is that simple.Even the "marine abandoned" cutscene looked badass and had a space redneck screaming for air support, here for some reason they decided to show thr tragicness of war... but its a dumb setting about dumb retards who bring cans of beer alongside nuclear weapons so the message is out of place.
>>747636846this can work but only if you're Yarrick
>>747637346>So their moral is to just give up, just let it happen bro. Suicide cult, truly.I wonder who taught them how to think like that.
>>747636603>He's a minor joke, not a major characteroh so you think the guy from dominions trailer IS a major character are you fucked in the head?
>>747637324no you have to be mad! get mad! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiehQvYGv6U
>>747631656it's just 40cucks getting jealous that other sci fi do grim dark better than 40k despite being the self proclaim poster boy for grim dark. They are the same to warhammer fantasy for being a better fantasy than 40k.
I would be on board if they had the balls to show anti-imperialism, but this is pure impotent rage against the fash, nobody of them have the balls to be real
>>747633540The only explanation for this behavior that makes any sense to me is that they are literally some fucking zoomer retards that have never played starcraft and to whom "entertainment" is engaging in political slap fights online, thus everything has to be viewed as political.Some mulatto kid being melted into goop by the Zerg after he retardedly bought into Terran Dominion propaganda, the state set up by fucking Mengsk in og Starcraft, and then dying like a bitch to the zerg in his first deployment, is entirely on brand for Starcraft.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6bVj-nTkiUI cannot fathom how ANYONE who has any familiarity with Starcraft would think that the trailer was somehow "subversive" or inaccurate to the setting.
>>747637969It's called Age of Sigmar now and it's bretty good.
if Starcraft came out today you'd get asshurt over Kerrigan kill yourselves>but you see when I was a kid it was differentit sure was because you are so fucking special world held it's breath for you
>>747633728War is bad, dipshit.Go get blown up in Ukraine if you think otherwise.
>>747637969>other sci fi do grim dark better than 40kNext level of cope: delusional declarations of superiority.
>>747638110>tfw zoomies would get upset about Tanya too
>U.S. midterm elections will take place on Tuesday, November 3, 2026>Blizzard releases out their agitprop 2 months before that, and 4 years before the game is supposed to come outvideogames?
>>747633728>its pretty clearly cucked "war is le bad" slopso why aren't you in the military?
WHY ARE WE GIVING OUR MALE VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS MASSIVE, LUSCIOUS, THICK, SUCCULENT DICK SUCKING LIPS!?!
>>747634843>this kinda makes me realize the anti-war message is even more retarded because the Dominion is fighting defensively.Nigger are you fucking retarded?The Dominion LIES all the fucking time in Starcraft.The fucking first god damn game establishes this. The Inauguration speech Mengk makes is all about peace and unity between terrans whereas the actual fucking cinematic shows Sons of Korhal/Dominion killing other terrans and subjugating them.You have ZERO certainty that the war in the upcoming game was initiated by the Zerg.
>>747638254Gays have a lot of money.
>>747638351I don't believe that
>>747633540it's been almost 12 years since gamergate began and people have just watched one franchise after another shit the bed by promoting progressive politics. it's hardly surprising that people are overly sensitive to anything could maybe, might be, more progressive horseshit
>>747638254so I can masturbate to him and cum on my screen pretending he puffed out those pretty chocolate lips just for me
>>747638295that's right goyim. you started this war so don't fight for your home when we counter attack to rape you all
>>747637165It's true Alan Grant and John Wagner wrote Kaleb Daark (which was canned after three issues) and Pat Mills wrote the Redeemer but those are pretty minor contributions. In the later case even the character got unpersoned because GW was too greedy and didn't want to pay the creators royalties for it. There's more crossover on the artist side with people like Brett Ewins and Clint Langley but those guys aren't the creators of 2000ad just freelancers.
>>747632081>This game won''t be terribly popular???>perfect for the asiatic hordes>who number in the billions
>>747638361It's a half truth.There does exist a sizeable amount of the gay community that are rich.They don't give two shits about 'pride' or LGBT. They got theirs.The gays that walk in parades and shit - they're dirt poor.
>>747638402I mean vae victis. If fucking bugs win they deserved to win just like soviets deserved to rape your grandmother
>>747638448Didn't. Ask.
>>747638402Dominion starting a war with the Zerg for some retarded political reason is entirely on brand for them, retard. The Zerg themselves could just as well have started it. We don't know because all we have in the trailer is a propaganda trainign speech by some fuck hyping up retarded recruits who are going to be used as expendable chaff.
>>747632989Is it confirmed to take place after 2?
>>747633728Are you implying war is ever good? It only is if you're the neutral party selling weapons.
>>747638512we need the space.
>>74763850970 years later, which gives plenty of time for Valerian to be replaced by a glory hound successor, Zag to be swayed by Dehakas survival of the fittest ideology, and Alarak to decide that Artanis is a bitch and the monkeys deserve stabbings.
>>747631656To me the trailer just did not feel like starcraftIt felt like 1984, it felt like all quiet on the western front, but it didn't have the je ne sais quoi of starcraft, or rednecks as some have identified it. It just feels like some topical "look at these brainwashed nationalists dying like idiots"Also notice how older all the marines are in the old games (tychus. raynor, metzen), while here it's some young fresh meat, it just has a different feel to it. Highly trained fresh cannon fodder vs convicts on drugs and aggression inhibiters. I mean I guess that's what happens when an IP get 30 years old
people who never even sparred, gas out after light jog and never seen a boot camp will lecture others on war lmaonigga a fucking spider sends you shrieking
>>747638512War is cool and based. All red-blooded males take an interest in warfare.
>>747638378It's been 12 years and you haven't moved on from your gamergate phase? Do you know what you could have done in that time?
>>747638497>>747638474shalom
>>>people who never even sparred, gas out after light jog and never seen a boot camp will lecture others on war lmaonigga a fucking spider sends you shrieking
>>747638734I never developed past elementary school mentally speaking which is why I play video games in my adulthood
>>747638812>we want total war hehe>get it>schiesse not like this!
any fellow normal apolitical people in the thread?
>>747638678>look at these brainwashed nationalists I think you’re trying to see what you want to see You could make that argument about any war related movie, song, etc You could say that the Omaha beach scene in Saving private ryan is leftist propaganda because they show men dying needlessly
>>747635418i think many of these countries (especially india) have their own versions of white, brown etc.someone like narendra modi is white to them
>>747638734the anti-gamers were the aggressors and they never moved on
>>747638295Lmao bugman in the chat
>mystery meat gets BTFO'd in a matter of seconds>polfafgs IMMEDIATELY get offended on behalf of white nationalists
>>747632476If it was, it was just poorly done.Helldivers 2 managed to get it across perfectly in the tutorial because it nailed the tone. The grandiose and unironic praise for doing something like picking up a gun, then casually sending the player to potentially get mowed down by turret fire got the satire across perfectly.This had the uplifting music during the badass montage and propaganda speeches, then cut to a completely serious tone for the massacre and cleanup. It was clearly trying to ape the Klendathu drop, but even after the music stopped Starship Troopers had plenty going on to hammer home the satire, like the gung ho retard and the media team.
>>747639090something leftist and discourse
>>747639107>I want my ideology insulted only under these specific circumstances
if you are so nationalist why don't you even have a job or start a family
>>747639071
>>747632082my interpretation is that the suits are super strong and durable, but the marines just get tossed around like ragdolls against rocks and shit to the point that all their bones break and they partially turn to tomato sauce i believe the reason why the marauder armor looks the way it does is because they have a shit ton of foam inside the suit to ensure the user doesn't die the first time he gets tackled by a zergling>>747633394i thought the acid may have been roach acid but you may be right
>>747639182Sorry, I get severe hay fever and it really blurred your post.Can you take the straw out and repost it?
>>747639305funny thing is if he went for the Genestealer cults the comparison would make much more sense
>>747637904>pretending to not understandhere, let me make it clear to you>>747637608
commercialization of civil war agitation in american culture is truly astonishing
>>747638986Sure maybe I'm reading into it, but I think the 1984 minute of hate kinda solidifies the intentionsThe thing I dislike is how it doesn't evoke the same hype as their old trailers. WoL trailer, HoTS trailer, LotV, sc ghost, even broodwar trailer had me thinking "alright let's go" despite also depicting relatively bleak scenarios. This one doesn't get me psyched, and it doesn't even feel like it's trying, it feels CYNICAL.Wol tells me here comes war, with all it's horror and glory, LOTV tells me here we are to retake our homeworld, this tells me "you're an idiot if you think war is cool". sure maybe I am but we're your fucking audience, indulge us a little, dammit.Old trailers had an archon grabbing the ultralisk by it's jaw before suicide black holing, vikings landing to 1v1 an ultralisk, now we got this fuckin guy's face
>>747638837Spiders are friends thocockroaches on the other hand...
>>747639323The Marauder suit is so large because he's carrying a factory on his back. His suit makes the rockets he shoots.
>>747639585>I NEED the game to pat me on the back and tell me how heckin badass I am!lmao
>>747639659Ace Combat does that and it's pure 100% kino.When will you fags understand that this is a setting about beer guzzling space retards and not a serious setting about the horrors of war?It doesn't fit starcraft to show a marine pissing and shitting in panic as he dies, he should die with one last joke "I've always loved you, sarge!" or something.The one setting where capeshit quipping would be on-brand and they fuck it up.
>>747639323Isn't there a foam upgrades for marauders in the WoL campaign?
>>747632476except there was no humour. it's just mengsk being an self-serving arsehole yet again sacrificing young naive patriots to his own ends. this has been a left coded talking point for decades
>>747639659>starcraft was never cynical and I Don't like them steering it towards cynicism>>I NEED the game to pat me on the back and tell me how heckin badass I am!
>>747639789>It doesn't fit starcraft to show a marine pissing and shitting in panic as he diesThat one guy in the amerigo cutscene is shitting and pissing his pants.
>George Carlin quote postedFucking reddit 2.0 this shithole
how do you do fellow normal people
>>747639893That cutscene was fucking awesome though and they blow up a fucking space station, one last hurrah
>>747639893>zoom in showing his shitty teeth>he literally brought beer alongside his nuclear weaponAnd you still don't get how the tone is completely different?And in that scene he is screaming while firing his gun, not just freezing in panic.I'll say again: The problem isn't the marine dyingthe problem is the tone of the trailer. Stop trying to make this political.
>>747631656TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>747639059That doesn't make sense cuz you're the only one crying rn
>People angry that a cinematic representation of victorious Barracks cheese has the pov of a rookie marine killed (Who still gunned a few zerg and lasted longer than average marine in lore) because he was scared in his first and only fight.Its an RTS game. We're the ones with agency not the units. This aint gears of war hes only a fraction of 50 minerals.
>>747639893Same cinematic a couple shots apart btw
>>747640048Holt's rifle jammed while he was already overrun
>>747639090its even worse when you put it into context>blizzard tells them being a patriotic cuck is being a goyslave>"i-it must be demoralization"lmfao, they are desperate
>>747640228Why didn't he pull out his desert eagle that never runs out of ammo? >>747640197Would that be too cool?
>>747639830>left coded talking point what, do right coded types think it's actually good to send young men off to die to serve boomer aspirations?
>>747639789>comparing it with generic militaryslop lmao, that explains things
>>747632385>>747633746>>747634040>>747634551>an actually smart poster on 4chan in current year that isn't a blatant reddtor?
I just can't find myself caring about the lore after they destroyed the Protoss's entire culture and made Kerrigan a Mary Sue damsel-in-distress.
>>747640303sadly, many do believe there is honor in dying for smallhat proxies because they're basically infested terrans but irl
>>747640194>>People angry that a cinematic representation of victorious Barracks cheese has the pov of a rookie marine killed>pretending not to understandI'll say again: The problem isn't the marine dyingthe problem is the tone of the trailer.This is a setting about beer drinking redneck criminals who die while saying jokes or just screaming and shooting.This is not the setting to make a serious tone trailer about the horrors of war.
>>747640316>reads the first line and ignored the rest of the post just to pretend to make a pointFinish reading the post
>>747631656so they won that engagement since they recovered his suit and allsucks to be the first wave
>>747640194>Its an RTS gamesomeone should tell him
>>747640303right-coded types reject the premise and argue for using the military for genuinely patriotic ends. american adventurism has only been bad because its benefit to america has been highly dubious
>>747640361Kerrigan did nothing wrong, when Kerrigan isnt on screen everyone should say "Where's Kerrigan?", reminder Raynor LOVES Kerrigan still, reminder Kerrigan ascended to space jesus to banish the evil giga niggas
>>747639789Are you seriously bringing Ace Combat into this? Most games in that series hit you over the head with a fucking "war bad" message.
>>747640539then why are you lot angry over a young man driven by patriotism getting turned into slop? Sacrifice is also an important talking point, he sacrificed himself
>>747640615You talk about media literacy a lot and yet you pretend not to understand tone?
>2030>no gameplay revealWhat's the point?
this is basically another lore rape similar to amazon lotr and its "they will not replace us" episode out of nowhere. They are now having galadriel join party with an orc in season 3 btw.
I get so angry when I see anti-war propaganda. We need to send Americans to Iran right now. It's their purpose. War is really cool actually. Nowhere near as dangerous as they say.
wait i thought this isnt propaganda?
>>747640561It was so nice of Fenix's best friend Jimmy to forget about his sworn oath that he'd kill her to avenge him.
>>747640574NTA but of course "war bad" you fucking idiot. Nobody will tell you war is good, the most you'll get is that war is a necessary evil, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun in a fictional war setting without the the revolutionary observation that people killing each other is not ideal beating you over the head through out.
>>747640539you've got it wrong, its right wing goyslaves that are angry at the trailer lmao
>trailer is apolitical, you are just a schizo>its good thats it propagandizes the right messagewait what
>>747640498yes, presumably they may even be winning the war against the zerg, it's just very costly in terms of human life. you could make the argument that the dominion HAS to propagandize people to ensure their collective survivali think the only thing that adds a really bitter and desperate tone to the whole thing is the guy's gun jamming, since that makes it look like he was tricked into the battle with shit equipment. i got the sense that the stuff the marines use is insanely effective and they only lose because the zerg is even more dangerous
>>747640820yes, because the trailer is being interpreted as left-coded anti-war faggotry
>>747640812>but that doesn't mean you can't have fun in a fictional war setting without the the revolutionary observation that people killing each other is not ideal beating you over the head through outOk, then if you care about fun, you surely shouldn't invest yourself so emotionally in the message. You make it sound more personal, and therefore anything you've said so far dishonest
>>747631876This. But why would you expect current Blizzard fans to know this or think that the people even in the company understand this. ALso the fact this was a rehash of Starcraft 2 reveal makes this announcement really lame to me.
What else are you going to do, spend a lifetime going against biology sitting at a desk consuming shit? Humans are meant for higher ideals even if that means throwing your life away for them.
>>747631656starcraft ripped off 40k and then 40k returned the favor by ripping off starcraft but in the end they both ripped off starship troopers. Either way i hope blizzard kyses
modern libtards will never go against american imperialism, they are too castrated to actually fight the power, they will rather fight their fellow citizens over minute unimportant shit instead
>>747640574The ace combat is just an example of a game "sucking you off" being good.The rest of the post explains why this trailer is tone deaf and doesn't fit the setting, regardless of it portraying marines as cool or lame.
>>747640701I never used that reddit term.
>>747640745>this is basically another lore rapeMarines are cheap expendable goons who are fitted with neural implants to make them compliant.If anything, the lore breaking part is them bothering to recover and restore the 50 minerals worth of powered armor after a battle. It's probably cheaper to just leave it to rust instead of flushing out the guts of the guy who last wore it and got turned into zerg food.
>>747640934>trailer completely misses the tone of starcraft to shoehorne in a message that has been said millions of times>nooo don't pay attention to the message!
>>747640926>yes, because the trailer is being interpreted as left-coded anti-war faggotryby goyslaves, yes>>747640971very eglin coded post
>>747641070>Marines are cheap expendable-cheap beer drinkinkg, redneck retards who smoke fucking cigars inside their sealed helmetstrying to make a dramatic trailer about these retards misses the point of the setting so completely that it boggles the mind.
>>747640805Honestly when I thought of SC2 being made, the hope I had was that Kerrigan would have mutated into more of a monster over time, becoming less humanized rather than more. Rather instead she gets turned into a human again through plot magic, and then back into a zerg again through plot magic, and then back back to a human-angel thing through yet more plot magic. The appeal to me regarding the zerg was always that they were ravenous insectoid monsters capable of corrupting and assimilating others, but most of SC2's lore deliberately undermines that at every turn.
>>747641073>its okay when it has the goyslave tone I approve ofyou sure it aint personal?
>>747640971>Humans are meant for higher ideals even if that means throwing your life away for them.what a talmudic post either you are the most hebraic jew straight from Tel Aviv's downtown or you are so thoroughly minced by them you are effectivelly a humanoid shaped loudspeaker for propaganda
>>747640934>and therefore anything you've said so far dishonestUnaware of what NTA means? Also you're missing the point, war being bad doesn't preclude you from showing bravery, conviction, competence, "badassery" etc. The trailer chose to highlight pessimism, which is what I took issue with originally
>>747641183Are you saying starcraft 1 was pro-war? Are you really going to go full retard like that for the sake of a point?
>>747631656They had to show the marines getting dropped onto the zerglings like that because if they'd had any micro or support at all they would have won
>>747636395Good thing it's not an RTS then.
>>747641026>that image shat itself so hard it can't even spell "ethnically ambiguous" correctlykek even AI gets a stroke while trying to process what the fuck is going on inside your skulls
if blizzard had the balls they would show marines raping a young alien while Mengsk gives speeches about freedom and liberty
>>747641070>If anything, the lore breaking part is them bothering to recover and restore the 50 minerals worth of powered armor after a battledamn what a retarded take lolif you could build a "automatic armor harvester drone" for 50 minerals that gave you back 40 minerals for every marine that dies, then all the starcrafters on the ladder would be building it
>>747641070>pretends to not understand things as he does
>>747641282you mean a larva?
>>747632081You know a lot of people play SC2 for the Arcade mode too right?It's got some pretty fun games.
>>747631752>and ye old trope of military lied, military bad.I mean, the military does lie a lot.
>>747632473Just because one side has rape demons doesn't automatically made the side that has Corpse Starch the good guys.
>>747632621The difference there is that the colony was already overrun, and they decided to pull out after the message had been conveyed to Alexi.The new trailer has them dump 3 platoons of fresh marines that were likely given months of training directly on top of the enemy with no coherent plan other than "shoot da zurg lololol".The broodwar scene is an existing force being overrun due to not getting the support they needed, the dominion trailer plays out like some commander somewhere began the planning session with "you know what'd be fucking HILARIOUS?".Just think back to the actual games, imagine dumping 50 minerals each into 3+ dropships (8 marines per, 1200R total minimum) and just throwing them like a hail mary long-bomb into the enemy base despite it being late game.It's just retarded and implies the dominion should have lost a long time ago.
>>747641235are you implying your message was pro-war? freudian slip perhaps
>>747641346shit analogy i know, but so is their trailer
>>747632473If they were good they wouldn't have to create a police state to keep their people in line.
>>747632081sc2 wol sold to a lot of normies who never played an rts in their lifetoo bad the rest of episodes were shit in comparison
>>747641385>your messageAnon really goes full retardexplain what message I was delivering through my posts when I complained about the tone of the trailer not fitting starcraft.Go ahead I want to see you tryYou're gonna cuck out aren't you?
>>747631752>ye old trope of military lied, military bad.To think you've been so mazed by propaganda that you think that this is a trope rather than a given regardless of country or era.
>>747632713I thought they spit green acid in SC1? I still remember the sound too.
the game should be about playing as a protoss zealot being led on a schizophrenic campaign to kill all humans and zerg because of mental scars from the de-khala-ing instead of redoing the "marine's leaders are bad and dumb" thing that Raynor already did
>>747641556you don't know what trope means if you think it's can't be used to describe real life.
>>747641554>not fitting of starcraftthat's where you are wrong, that's very fitting of starcraft, you are really just grasping at straws here. You simply do not approve of the way its done because it attacks your values to some degree, making it personal, just be honest about it
There's something bothering me, if Terran Marines are the lowest line holder troop, how the fuck does Terran logistics even work? I doubt arming your average marine is cheap since they're full power armor with solid projectile rifle. Both stuff will require a full functioning undisrupted support chain.
>>747641625>trying to shoehorne a serious drama trailer in a setting with space rednecks who scream "I love you sarge" right before being killed by horrible monsters>fitting the toneYou are clearly only approve of it because it fits your values regardless of how poor of a fit in terms of tone it is.You could easily do a "war = bad" message without breaking the tone of starcraft btw, so your point is even more retarded.
It's fiction dipshit, it doesn't have to make sense.
>>747631656No one else can hear the voices in your head bro.
>>747641625there's no humour in the trailer
>>747641732brother you are talking about a space fantasy setting running on rule of cool, you wont get thought out logistic systems
>>747641732minerals and vespene gas are just that efficient.Any SCV with access to minerals can build a factory that can make more suits.The trailer breaks the lore by having people waste time collecting the suit btw but that is a minor point.
>forever looking for who the fuck ever asked 40k fans about their opinion on anything non-40k
>>747641732It is a logical question but the answer is logistics in RTS games are fucking nonsense
SC1 in the trailers and cinematics>rednecks in spaceSC1 in the game>some retarded simp and his mommy issuesSC2 in trailers and cinematics>cowboys in space and lots of moralfagging>simp is backSC2 in the game>same shitIf you really think this trailer was the issue then you've been sleeping under a rock
>>747641732they can manufacture everything on site
>>747641772>You could easily do a "war = bad" message without breaking the tone of starcraft btwThe so called tone you adhere to died in SC1 and didn't even make it into the game's stages, I wonder where you were when SC2 was a thing
>>747632371Pre 2000s tyranids had their own style, after Starcraft came out GW just copied the Zerg.
>>747641732That's why you build supply depots.
>>747641604The spines are ejected with hydraulic pressure from that fluid. Yes I know it's weird.
>>747641863Jim Raynor is one of the rednecks in space, Anon.
>>747641732War in media is often portrayed without the importance of economics and logistics, despite these two things being probably more important than gunghos and rambos we see in media
>>747641919>didn't even make it into the game's stagesexcept all the iconic unit barks
>>747641919It doesn't fit starcraft 2 tone eitherstarcraft is even more of a light-hearted marvel movie-like story. If starcraft 1 is dark humourous space fantasy, 2 is just fun adventure in space.
>>747641816Protoss has digital tech and warping in stuff.Zerg either grows their troops and buildings or bring their troops in.At least they should state like Terrans 3D print their shit from minerals combined with vespin gas.
>>747642028It's sad that it got toned down to that level, truly
>>747642034Terran factories are already automated.
>>747631752The military lies and the entire military industrial complex is a scam that usem patriotism as an excuse to send young men into their meat grinders to make the numbers go up. People who serve are subhuman retards who fell for propaganda and deserve the mockery.
>>747641950absolutely hideous
>>747631656This!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8geCTlZOo&pp=ygUTZGF3biBvZiB3YXIgMyBpbnRybw%3D%3D
>>747642191That doesn't mean the story and tone of our fun space shootan games need to be miserable experiences about the no good very bad horrors of war
>>747642032This. If they wanted to go all dark and grim they should've shown a criminal going through "resocialization" and then dying like fodder while screaming his head off from all the combat drugs in his system. I already said 1984 but it bears repeating>let's get hundreds of guys in a big ass room standing in front of a giant TV and raise their fists and give one word responses to the TV
>>747632193Famously considered toilet paper to such degree that even Commissars don't care.>>747636846I mean this can work, we've seen humans go toe-to-toe with Orks in melee. You just have to be really good or really lucky or just so happen that Emperor smiles on you.There's also an obvious difference between "some runt ass Ork swinging his shitty ass cleaver at you" and "local Warboss swings his tank-sized chainaxe at you"
>>747642239Kino trailer to be fair and the smile is a fine contrast to the mulattos horror
>>747631656>Tyler1He looks like Harstem to me. His lips always creeped me out for some reason.
>>747641950SOVL
>>747641732i'm not sure if the dominion has like nigh-magical levels of automated production and resource harvesting and that's what allows them to give out outrageously high tech armor and guns as standard issue, or if it's just a more wh40k style industry of having so much population that they can afford to have like 1,000 auxiliary workers artisanally crafting these suits for every marinelore experts please chime in
>>747632054>I just got done fucking, and you fags are six stacking at 2am
>>747636846>grab the ork hand>disarm him>stab him in the eyeGive me one reason why this wouldn't work
>>747642405Ork wrist or hand will be bigger than your average guardsman.Shit should work with Ogryns though.
Dear god what a bunch of sissy gay midwits in this thread lmao retard galore
>>747632081People have wanted a Starcraft shooter since the 90s, including Blizzard. Everyone was pissed when they cancelled Ghost.The real question is: how will NuBlizzard fuck this up? What's the catch? How will the monkey's paw curl this time?
>>747642234>>747642327Old nids looked dumb, copying Zergs was the best move they could have done.
>>747631656too tall to be tyler
>>747642535>What's the catch?in it being open world. Guaranteed Far Cry reskin
>>747642535The catch is it'll just be Helldivers but worse, cost $89.99 plus tip, and probably require a 7090 to run at 30 fps, 1080p.
>>747632081
>>747642239>muh heckin holocaust survivor painternever been captured or assaulted, just continued living his life under a different government for a while
>>747642628I look like this and play like this
>>747642593StarCry>skin 5 hydralisks to increase your ammo storage by 2%
>>747642326i recognize these dick sucking lips from todays grubby stream
>>747642191It barely sounds or looks like helldivers because games like helldivers as well as many other "war bad" games caricaturizes the message to the point its barely taken seriously and might as well be doing the contrary.It is no surprise that games where the CIA invested in had similar messages but ended up having a completely different effect, same as "Fortunate Son" being used on rallies. Hence why Helldivers has an even worse messaging than this trailer ever could. In practice, it might as well not even have it, why even bother with a message at all by that point.Given this trailer's repercussion with culture warriors, its fair to assume that if it did have a message then it was on point, because it took people out of their comforting zone and pretty much rubbed it on their faces.Whether it happened to be generic or not, that didn't matter, it really was on the noses if that was what they were going for but it did the job it was supposed to. Unironically, if the trailer did go for that then I think its completely fine, shouldn't have used mystery meat guy but could have been worse I guess, Helldivers levels of bad that is
>>747642632what
>>747632081the people who outnumber you and have an actual culture and dont die for Israel? meanwhile you and your nigger worshipping kind will be dying for israel while acting talking and using nigger lingo that you claim to hate. Yea your right it wont be popular with your dying kind. but with the future race who actually stay homogenous it will.
>>747642710Zdzisław Beksiński
>>747631656Why even bother making threads like this? I totally agree with you, but you aren’t going to accomplish anything. This board will hate any title solely because it’s new and popular. Trying to prescribe any sort of logic or assuming there’s a deeper thought process is a fool’s errand. That’s what nu-/v/ is now, this has become a board for manufacturing video game drama and whining over said manufactured drama rather than actually discussing video games (because that would require actually playing them).The fact that the first reply in this thread is claiming that StarCraft is “copying Helldivers” should tell you all you need to know about the terrible state of this place. This isn’t a board for gamers anymore, it’s a board for terminally online teenagers and third worlders (and teenaged third worlders) to come and complain about whatever their favorite le based and redpilled gaming drama YouTuber told them is the current thing to complain about.
>>747642341>outrageously high tech armor and gunsThey aren't using high tech gear.The Protoss use high tech gear.A marine's powered armor and gauss rifle is pretty damn primitive shit in the setting. A single zealot with his plasma shield and psi-blade will effortlessly dab on marines.
>>747631656>government feeds lies and propaganda to brainwash young men into thinking they are warriors and heroes>only to send them to die with shitty equipment in a meaningless war in the middle of nowhereAmericans got triggered because this is what their government actually does to them irl.
>>747632970who is this "everyone"? youtube grifters who found a new target to make 10 videos a week about?
>>747641732They're not as cheap as they seem in portrayals, 50 minerals for one seems like nothing, but you need at least 6 to be able to do anything of value early game, and mid game anything less than 8-10 supported by proper vehicles and support troops isn't worth sending out.Worst part is that they die stupidly fast even with armor upgrades, and every one that dies drops your DPS that little bit more.Even in the way they work in game, they're not really fodder.They can be USED that way, but doing so is really dumb and a good way to burn resources like an idiot.
>>747642732he made Dawn of War 3? No wonder it sucks nigga was dead for decades
>>747642791
>>747642791as a non american im triggered by all their media becoming agitprop for the next presidential election in the last 20 years
>>747642535>shooterslopIts gonna be bad no matter what.On the bright side, maybe its good that they didnt touch the RTS, SC2 and its expansions happened and it couldn't get any worse than that. Have you seen the new WC3 Reforged expansion? The plot looked like it was taken from nuWoW and is even more disney-coded than SC2. Blizzard hasn't changed one bit
>>747642791see>>747642280and>>747641772
>>747643006If Nexon will be the one making the shooterslop, blizzfags are even more fucked and milked.
>>747642770Even a single zergling will dab on a marine iirc
>>747642795Why are you leftitsts running defense for blizzard? The company so filled with sexist retards they steal breast milk?
I'm gay
So, who are the zerglings in real world then?
>>747641772>that trailer>serious drama??????
>>747643274why do you right wingers hate blizzard if they holocaust female workers
>>747643283indians
>>747642770>>747643219Not if they stutter step.
>>747643330because they STOPPED doing it
>>747643330Because they're only based in privatethey need to behave basedly publically
>>747643283dindu nuffin refugees, since its american game then mexicans. You'll see this shit in the game guaranteed
>>747643330None of those bullshit accusations were real.But they should've been. Women owe me breastmilk.
>>747643274Only based thing to happen at blizzard since 1998
>>747643196>put a message>flies over anyone's headyeah thats why helldivers and all similar games were shit in that regard, the fact that a message needs to be spelt out word by word to NPCs kind of show that the kind of messaging does not work. It's neither cool nor worth having a message
>>747642795Nobody watches those videos other than latino teenagers. Seriously, choose any grifter and look through their newest comments. There are so many Gomez/Rodriguez/Hernandez autogenerated account names. That should give you an idea of the anon you’re replying to.
>game depicts foot soldiers as what they are>disposable cannon fodder>this makes retards seethe
>>747631805The second actual class war started getting floated in meatspace, the Silicon Valley sycophants who produce these games and staff the executive boards who make godawful decisions on them immediately sanitized all games explicitly about class warfare made in the AAA production circuit. Red Faction is never getting made again, because any studio with creative vision like Voltion, or Monolith, or Arkane got locked away into actual slop mines after their Silicon Valley sycophants bosses did what they do and sold the entire thing and its movie rights so that they could retire to parasocially grift on social media for their respective autistic enclave. The second the developer crosses the threshold into management territory, they become irredeemable shitheads, John Romero set the blueprint for this shit and I haven’t seen a single dev prove me wrong.
>>747643274since the left is a collection of incompatible mental illnesses the only thing keeping them together is the hate of conservatives, so they lash on any opportunity
>>747643283>protossItalians and Southern Euros>terransamericans>zergalso americans
>>747643468lmao what the fuck is this
>>747643540it didnt actually happen according to the court documents
>>747643660orc family in amazon lotr
>>747643559How about you don't try to tell a serious message in a setting about >SC 1: space rednecks shooting aliens>SC 2: light hearted space adventure about rescuing a space princess
>>747632045Yeah, I agree with this anon. I'd rather he be a coal black nigger that looks like george floyd over a racially ambiguous globohomo mutt.
>>747643596>anon pretends he doesn't understand the tone of a decades old fictional setting
>>747643419a zealot will absolutely dab on a stutter stepping marine, if he doesn't have a pair of buildings to juke around he's turbodead in that 1v1
>>747643707>lotrAren't orcs in that setting essentially just demons created by a malevolent entity as footsoldiers for his army? Why would there be families? Why would there even be women?
>>747643729sc2 is more of a melodrama to be tbqh
>>747643729>serious message??????????????????
>>747643790NTA, but Nigger you are literally triggered of the equivalent of a red shirt getting smoked like get a life.
>>747642628>average nikkefag
>>747643559Praying on my hands and knees your house gets hit by a wayward missile you subhuman midwit
>>747643790>marines aren't disposable in StarCraft Where the fuck do you idiots come from?
>>747643823Tolkien orcs origins are not clear, but they're not created since Satan equivalent cannot create, but only corrupt. He also didn't delved too much in orc stuff as I recall.
>>747643885>anon pretends not to understand the argument>againsee>>747642280and>>747641772 (You)
The real thing that makes this game shit is that it takes place during/after the atrocity that was SC2 and all the dogshit retcons that came with it
>>747631656I don't know how anyone can look at Ukraine right now and think "man war looks fun as fuck, I can't wait to enlist to get blown up and feed the dogs (both sides) in no-man's land".It's like when I see what life inside prison is and how people coming out say they're mentally fucked up by stuff they saw and the time they lost. Like why would you get butthurt when something shows you a taste of what reality can be like?
>>747643793Well, maybe 1v1.I don't play Starcraft, I just looked up stutter step the other day after hearing about it and the video was equal-teams of 500 minerals, and the answer to zealots was target-specifying stutter step.
>>747643925tel aviv impressed
>>747643928That is not the argument being made. Why are you pretending to not understand?
>>747643823why would there be afro elves and dwarves in the english-germanic settingwhy would humans have riots in their cities about elves replacing themwho the fuck reads source material before making a tv show >>747638984
>>747643596There's a difference between>acceptable and inevitable lossesand >lmao lets hotdrop our range dependent guys right on top of the enemy specifically skilled in meleeSending your guys to die in the thousands just leaves you with thousands of dead guys you've gotta train and arm new ones to replace, often for no immediate benefit beyond potentially traumatizing the guys that had to kill them all.The Chinese and norks learned this the hard way in the latter half of the Korean war when UN forces just started shelling the everloving shit out of their human waves then slowly crawling over the corpses northward.
>>747643946>serious dramaNigger it's a 2 rax proxy, calm down it's not a serious dramatic piece like you keep pretending it is
>>747643823No as evil cannot create in the setting only corrupt with one origin of orcs stating they're defiled elves
>>747643885Praying on my hands and knees your house gets hit by an asteroid you ugly tranny
>>747643965Most of the people triggered by this kind of shit have no intention of ever enlisting or going anywhere close to a battlefield. Most warhawks are arguing for someone else to go die for them so they can personally benefit.
>>747644014What matters is that it doesn't fit the tone of either of the previous starcraft games.
>>747643729that could have worked but was never the case, you are talking about a company that was known for having guys like Metzen which had always been known for his liberal thinking
>>747643965GWOT wasn't like Ukraine. Looked more like Disneyland for psychos
>>747643935NTA, but bro literally makes them out of mud.>>747643946>No don’t make an analogue for me and then kill, it that’s so mean, stop iiiiit!!! Noooooo!!!!>Don’t make me the subject of gallows humorPost harder
>>747643729>space rednecks shooting aliensSC1 was about the space rednecks losing, getting taken over by the space communists, allying with the psychic space spooks and their space not-so-spook cousins to beat the space bugs, getting tricked by the space bugs, and the space spooks getting their space agency head space killed by the space bugs' space queen while the space communists are evil and dumb and the space redneck hero loses everything
>>747644059We're not warhawks. We're>Get your fucking gay ass hippie faggotry out of our fucking ayy shooting videogame, you whiny little limp-wristed bitch
>>747643965>>747644029What does any of what's happening in europe IN REAL LIFE have to do with what happens in A FICTIONAL SETTING ABOUT COLONIES OF SPACE CRIMINALS FIGHTING ALIENS
>>747643965See >>747632682
>>747643831this, election tourists have no idea how SC2 was received here. And it got worse with every expansion
>>747644012>The Chinese and norks learned this the hard way in the latter half of the Korean warWhich is why the UN forces were entirely enveloped and had to retreat all the way back to the coastlines while constantly under fire and having their friends sniped in front of them, right?Chosin Reservoir was an unmitigated defeat for the US/UN, you're spouting actual propaganda lmfao. Turns out sending mostly green troops versus guys who had been hardened fighting the Japanese and Russians was a terrible idea.
>>747644023Imagine getting this angry because someone pointed out to you that getting turned into raw sewage drek is just what happens to Storm Troopers in this setting.
>>747631752Yeah but the Commissar likes me and made me her sugar baby, so i get to be her personal guard and sleep next to her tent
I understand if you were making a sequel to COmmand and Conquer Generals and then you'd go "actually war bad, previous game was propaganda" but doing war bad in fucking STACRAFT?
>>747643982Yeah once marines become a blob, their dps and the fact that they are ranged makes them a wrecking ball, per mineral terran small armies are quite cost effectiveThis is more of a thing in SC2 because of the "improved" pathing and engine, and because you don't get so much of an early game as you do in SCBW, where there's a lot more fighting with just a few units instead of giant blobs
>>747644141a SC1 player, a rare sight these days
The new Starcraft shooter should be about Thulean Ubermenschen forming a Terran space SS led by a Fuhrer who genocide Zergs and Protoss with vespene gas. Anything else would be libshit agitpop.
>>747644145Because consistently in colonial experiments, criminals and undesirables are offloaded, this is another reason why it is evil, do not tell Americans, Australians, Canadians, or Israelis this or they get very mad at you.
>>747644059It does tho, did you forget the Amerigo cinematic? The Ascension?
>>747644230Imagine your house getting hit by a ballistic missile (I'm imagining it right now, it's called positive visualization)
>>747644316have you actually watched that cinematic recently?It doesn't portray the marine the same way as the trailer.
>>747644303There should be a whole arc where the recruitment program is really just for the merchant core to send young recruits to their lavish rape planet.
>>747644230>Ha, take that, Mr. Chudman! My NAZI-punching fist broke right through your straw body!!!>>747644142Meant for >>747644029
>>747639585Starcraft has been cynical from the fucking get go m8.
>>747644362I have a forcefield. So I beat you.
>>747644440it doesn't count because muh badass rednecks or something
>>747644369>oh no it's not exactly the same portrayal of a single unitI have, and it fits the tone to a tee, it marries particularly well to pic related, you're just plain wrong, it's like you cunts never even played the game
>>747644393Straits closed
>>747644141space
>>747644472Praying to Emperor Mengsk he sends a ghost to EMP your shit
>>747644440>>747644547>>747644576I don't know how you guys can't tell the difference in tone between the trailer and the old cutscenes.Seriously lack of media literacy on display, which is ironic since you seem to be mostly leftits. I thought having media literacy was your thing.
>>747644592>Strawmanning again.I hope Iran gets nukes and hits Tel Aviv. Fuck you, faggot.
>>747644628>He thinks I still rely on feeble electricity for my forcefield>After talking about how creative he is
>>747641073Nigger the tone of that trailer is far closer to original Starcraft than anything in SC2.
>>747644393SC2 did that and so did SC1 with the confederacy. In fact, the confederacy was written to be comically evil in that regard. Even Mengsk was originally portrayed as some pragmatic revolutionaire acting in response to the Korhal bombings and being actually succesful even in disadvantageous situations. The fact that they ended up making him another chudman is just Blizzard's touch on anything
>>747644659>Both le sides bad!!!
reminder 40k won
>>747644649It's pretty obvious you haven't played the game
>>747644547people haven't actually played the game so they don't know the Confederacy were losers who got their shit pushed in and were completely falling apart before the Mengsk finally stamped them out and took over
>>747631752the difference is you have femstodes, female space marines. and super badass chicks with dicks who are navigators or something.
>>747644759What? I can't hate both the annoying faggots who enshittify videogames and the source of their (((enablers))) in the entertainment industry?Damn, do you own options in straw shares, or something? You sure you can make enough strawmen for me?
>>747642791Lmao this. That must be what is causing the butthurt.
>>747644769>the grimdark setting in questionDon’t forget old clanker yaoi.
>>747644867>Iran is the reason why le gaming bad>Meanwhile in Nintendo of IranLMFAO
>>747644874thats just greek wrestling
>>747644012Barracks rush is a legit tactic in Starcraft tho
>>747644226And yet, after hundreds of thousands of troops as a whole were sacrificed, it failed to achieve the capitulation of the south.For a fraction of the cost in troops, the west managed to prevent the capitulation of Korea as a whole to communist forces.I have no doubt that, had the communist forces had a plan beyond "charge into the artillery fire and die", they likely could have pressed far harder.You can see evidence for this in the conflict that followed in Vietnam, in that fighting far more strategically and not just rushing into the enemy's lines to die en-mass resulted in a slower, but complete victory for the north Vietnamese forces.
>>747644923>t. pic relatedBut you've failed. You can't anger me no matter how many nonsensical straws you grasp.I don't even consider you a human being. At least animals are potty trained and you can't even manage that.
>>747644547sad ending =/= cynicism
>>747644952I know you’re being silly, but I’m getting ahead of the curve, there is a reason why this board LOOOOOOVES Bush era 40k goyslop when it starts to depict them like depressed 40 yr old Afghan war vets whose wives left them.
>>747644649Yes, there is a difference in aesthetics which changed from SC1 to SC2 and now(seemingly) to this SC spinoff, but none of it is related to a messaging retard. The game had always been pretty much on the nose about its anti-totalitarian bullshit and that's literally all there was. There were plenty of evil chuds losing for the sake of redditor fanservice in SC1 and SC2. The "tone" you are bringing up is such a superficial thing its pretty much not even worth bringing it up. You are conflating the tone of a messaging with the superficial aspects of the game. Your issue are the aesthetics, which changed long ago, not the tone of the message because Blizzard has historically been like that, you should know that. Retards like you have NEVER been the target audience for this game, you just happened to pass by and make it your personality.It seems to me like the one with media literacy issues here is you
>>747645036By advocating for the piss bunker guys?
>>747644649You have completely failed to articulate how the trailer supposedly does not fit the tone of the games. It is especially humorous when the trailer is more in line with the setting than what Starcraft 2 was, as that game was fucking marvelslop in comparison to the original Starcraft.Basically every single fucking cinematic in Starcraft 1 showed humans dying in some horrible way.
>>747645125Tick tock, Vile.
>>747645046Except it is not just a sad ending. The hero of the story gets manipulated and everything he values taken from him. The heroine gets corrupted by eldrich space monsters that turn her into their psychotic killing agent.The protoss are practically genocided by the Zerg and they only save themselves from extinction by Tassadar's self sacritice. The broodwar follows with Kerrigan manipulating everyone and fully embracing being a genocidal monster herself as well, establishing herself as the "Queen bitch of the universe".
>>747635562>What if that's not true and some groups deliberately remain isolated?They'll simply not be permitted to live. The retarded, suicidal "live and let live" attitude exists exclusively among whites who will all go extinct by the end of this century.
>>747644576>men fiercely fighting in the trenches, probably defending their colony, realizing they're about to be overrun, cinematic ends on the admiral cautioning his subordinate on the dangers of the zergvs>guy from the hit novel 1984 screams at tv and does pushups only to die like a bitch in 4 seconds after some retard decides to 2 rack rush 20 minutes into the gameOne of these is kino but it takes a soul to notice the nuance.
>SC1 ends in a cliffhanger with humans losing in all fronts>it was as bad as it got, even worse than a few grunts dying like this trailerMeanwhile SC2>also shows them being overrun constantly>"...tomorrow there will be another mengsk, and then there will another one after that">Jim actually agrees with it but decides to side with redditor Matt Horner>Rebels actually achieving something was just Blizzard's old touch of good guys beatup the evil chudsIt was as cynical as it got, retards just didn't pay attention to it because they were stuck on the explosions and bullet sounds like the kiddy brains they are
>>747645409>The protoss are practically genocided by the Zerg and they only save themselves from extinction by Tassadar's self sacriticeand then SC2 has them destroy their psychic connection with each other :)while the other two species get a happy ending :))and queen bitch Kerrigan becomes a god :)))because SC2 is shit :))))
>>747645664Yeah, SC2 is fucking garbage and does both the protoss and the zerg dirty with the storylines. Everything tied to Amon is also just turbo cringe.
>>747645467>muh 1984you retards keep going on about how the tone of the trailer supposedly doesn't match StarCraft, and then you go and make this fucking comparison, loving every laugh, you haven't played the game, and you haven't read the book either
>>747645664>>747645857Do you know what else is going to get an happy ending very soon?
>>747645409Is self sacrifice to save your people cynical or heroic? Fenix dies and comes back ready to bleed once again, that's not cynical that's awesome. Raynor befriends the protoss, the templar reconcile with the dark templar, the ending of broodwar sets up the sequal in which kerrigan gets (or should've gotten) killed, with raynor avenging fenix. Mengsk's dominion was all but dismantled along with his dreams of grandure but sc2 retconed him into being a dominant power again. The UED defeat was the closest it got to cynical, but I'd say more tragic than cynical (it was my personal favorite). I think there's a clear distinction between tragic and cynical and I don't think starcrat falls into cynicism, much less the sequals but they were ass.
>>747645857I fucking hate how they turned the focus of the story from a struggle between different factions into some le space prophecy destiny shit.
>>747645950Tassadar's sacrifice is heroic. It does not change the fact that what led to it was Conclave being authoritarian retard dipshits that ignored the danger of the Zerg and engaged in a civil war with forces loyal to Tassadar WHILE THE ZERG WERE INVADING AIUR. There being heroic characters does not change the fact that the entire storyline and setting overall is steeped in cynicism, to the point of being a bit silly.
>>747645473See >>747645467We won't be gaslighted into not seeing the blatantly and intentionally obvious agitprop enshittifying the series.
>>747646031Agreed. The storyline of SC2 in general is best ignored. I'd actually be fine if the new shooter just retconned it all out. Nothing of value came out of SC2's stories. Alarak, maybe, but even he kind of breaks the lore of the protoss a lot.
>>747645950>Fenix dies and comes back ready to bleed once againthat's just protoss culturetheir base unit is literally a religious zealot who wants to die in battle
>>747645467Pretty sure that cinematic was supposedly to be during a confrontation used as field testing, which the UED, like the sick bastards they are abandoned them all because some french old guy wanted to prove his close russian friend a point. That entire arc was about the Earth humans(UED) wanting to claim every sector the Terrans had claimed, kill every Terran resistance and other races in the process if deemed necessary because they never gave a shit about Terran's own struggles to begin with, which is why the UED wasn't loved by any other Terran faction
>>747646042It's literally nothing like 1984, this is the most stupid post in this entire thread
>>747646161The protoss being these fanatical warrior culture motherfuckers that literally fight with blades made out of their mental energies, seemed to have become lost somewhere in the writing of SC2.
>>747646042>I will ignore the facts because I am stuck on culture war garbage no need to tell us
>>747635918>t. doesn't understand the heat chartThey only show empathy for their family and close friends and don't care about anyone else.
>>747645467>didn't pay attention to the game award>muh 1984jesus lmfao
>>747635109>t. booty blasted snoy
>>747646220>>747646289It's blatant political agitprop to make propaganda for the fucking goyim theater midterms to decide which color boot gets to trample on people's rights next.>>747646294So what you're saying by that logic then, is that the other side of the chart shows that they have absolutely no empathy for their relatives, community, peoples, and nation.And therefore the best response by anyone who happens to be near them is to fucking boot them out and keep them the fuck away because they're deranged backbiting traitors with no loyalty who will sell you out for nothing.
>>747633454>Snoy bombing again?lmao, these retards have probably never owned a Sony console, and haven't played SC since they were 9, and that is if they actually DID play the game
>>747640421>This is a setting about beer drinking redneck criminals who die while saying jokes or just screaming and shooting.Yeah dude Starcraft was always a sitcomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUExpobw3tw
>>747646037And they did that due to historic animosity and bias (many will tell you a traitor is worse than an enemy). And they later fight again was because the leader of the dark templar was being manipulated by kerrigan into being her slave basically. The conclave worked for a while but it encountered an environment where it was outmatched (zerg invasion). Old starcraft had layers, every side felt alive. The conclave was a distinct entity acting upon information available to them and within the motives and biases they had, and every faction felt like this. It made for an interesting space opera as people like to call it, but it never felt cynical. There was always a goal, there were always honorable warriors, there were always understandable motives, things moved and they moved in all directions (it's an rts, you switch races and you have to win every switch so every faction gets their win). It never felt like the fighting was pointless, it felt like our heros were on the back foot with the future promising to give us a payoff (which sc2 kinda tried to in a way) Definitely somber, hardly cynical
>>747646486the funny part is, the guy is still stuck on the cinematics because they were cool but barely knows about the plot in-game because cinematics are somehow more plot relevant than the game stages or the world building the gameplay portion of the game offers. It's almost as if he never played the game and only got to look at the trailers-cinematics for the sake of engaging in culture war
>>747646429That's quite the astounding failure of logicYou should probably look up what sufficiency is before continuing to post
>>747646220>We won't be gaslighted into not seeing the blatantly and intentionally obvious agitprop enshittifying the seriesthe fact that he said that was enough proof that he neither played the game nor he ever give a shit about arguing in good faith
>>747646246Kerrigan even makes a point to mock Raynor by saying Fenix died in combat the way all Protoss want to when she got him swarmed
AAAAAAAAAAAAA KERRIGAN (INFESTED) AND NOVA HIGH-HEELING ME FUARKING NUUUTS
>>747646613M8, the Conclave persecuted the Dark Templar because they didn't want to join the Khala. It is almost explicitly stated in the game that the conclave were just retarded bigots about it. And the conclave was fucking gone by the time Razhagal was introduced, that is in Brood war. That little uprising is just Aldaris and his loyalist throwing up another civil war among the protoss because he is retarded and didn't even try to tell his fellow Khalai protoss what Kerrigan was up to. And the conclave were fucking retards from the get go. Incompetent old retards that were blind to the threat they were facing. The entire protoss campaign is basically you the player, being won over by Tassadar and siding with him against the dipshit retard conclave that did not know what the fuck they were doing and were losing the war to the Zerg.It is as cynical as it gets. Every fucking government in SC1 is ran by retards. The Zerg are the ones with the most competent leadership and face no civil wars unlike humans and the fucking protoss. The only reason the Overmind does not just win is because Tassadar does a 9/11 on him.
>>747646747I honestly don't understand what this trailer did to get the culture warriors all riled up, it's like they received their marching orders and just set about schizoposting about any and everything they could think of
>>747646687>Charts have equivalent levels of red, yellow, and green>Except one has the green on "literally everyone close to you" and the other has it on "Uhh, the like, the fucking rocks and stuff, dude!!!">Faggot claims that one chart therefore means that one side only cares about their immediate family and like 3 friends and nobody else, 'cause they're le heckin' chudderinos and not eMpAtHeTiC lIkE mE!!!>Now you're trying to claim that the inverse, where the green in the center means they're backbiting faggots (Which they actually are, and have proven to be so time and time again), is somehow a wrong interpretation.>>747646747You are literally a faggot /gcj tourist. I'm surprised that so much as saying the word faith doesn't cause you to break out in hives.
ugly andro looking ass foid
ITT:zoomers pretending they know anything about a game that came out before their parents had even met.OP is for once, not a faggot and completely correct.
>>747646613DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME AWARD
