>Concord: died in less than a week>Death Stranding 2: sold 20% what the first game did>Soros: Sold 400k and was instantly forgotten>Physint: Taken with Kojimas exodus to xbox>Physical discs: going away, also our lawyers say you dont own digital purchases you fuckin' chud>Wolverine: massive critical and commerical flop, needs to sell 5 million units just to cover its production budget before marvels 30% cut, not projected to do 1/5th of this>Hunters Gathering: in dev hell getting restarted>Fairgamedollarsign: on 3rd reboot with 5th director>Every other Sony live service: shut down before they even releasedand yet, despite every expectation to the contrary, Marathon is still here 7 months later, outsold all of the above, and is getting ready for its new season and largest ever content update next week. Did you ever imagine this was the Sony timeline we lived in?
GEEEEG or something idk
>also our lawyers say you dont own digital purchases you fuckin' chud So...just like steam?Remember gog doesn't have this problem. I own the games forever no one can restrict my access, censor them or use any legality to restrict my access. I own them as backups.
>>747632776>Marathon is still here 7 months later, outsold all of the above4 billions for this btw>but muh bungie live service expertiseResulted in Concord and other live service crap, bungie is not gonna last long, marathon might stay alive but technically dead like KF3
>>747632776But Death Stranding on its own sold nearly twice that of Marathon and is a single player game while Marathon is at, what? 2k concurrent players as a live service multiplayer game?
>>747632776>Concord: died in less than a week>Marathon is still here 7 months laterThese points are connected. Sony ignored the truth about Concord's reception up until it was a complete catastrophe. Meanwhile the lead up to Marathon's release had>mockery at its reveal for having the square-root of shit-all to do with the series it took its name from, and for being another unwanted live service shooter>mockery once the news came out of how expensive it was to acquire Bungie, and scorn from the players they actually had for Destiny 2 for it being cancelled to shift resources over to Marathon>the public humiliation of one of the people on the project live-streaming what they had, and catching blast after blast of shrapnel from chat about the general low quality of the product and plagiarism, leading to another delayThere's no fucking way Marathon wasn't headed to a similar reception as Concord, and being inside spitting distance of Concord's release, if Marathon was equally stillborn it would have had starker implications for leadership.So Marathon isn't actually allowed to die yet. They'll hook it up to jumper cables and defibrillate it periodically just to avoid "Concord 2" headlines affecting their stock value.
>Marathon is still here 7 months laterTechnically correct, I guess.
>>747635475The numbers are stabilized, and there is a dedicated fanbase. I'm having a blast.
Marathon is an allegory for real life where the bottom 99% of plebs have absolutely no way of ever competing at a fair level with the top 1%.
>>747635714Marathon is an allegory of how the world is ran by retard niggers who make the most absolute braindead decision and refuses to accept reality
>>747635659Do you guys nor get tired of regurgitating the same couple phrases like the parrots you're making fun of?
>largest ever content update>no new map>2 guns>1 characterMarasissies will take any little crumbs of shit Bungie craps out on their plate kek. Though its not surprising since they are retarded enough to buy a game that is recycled sloppy seconds from Destiny.
>>747635475>lowest 24 hour peak and non-maintenance low yet (it bottomed out a bit further than your pic at 701)And people actually think this is going to be allowed to live after the Season 3 bump inevitably fails to be retained. I wouldn't be shocked if it's a noticeably worse bump than Free Week was as well. They're 100% waiting for official GTA6 figures to start coming in to help cushion the blow of announcing EoS.
>>747635475MOGGED
>>747632776Sony would rather burn money in an obvious failure that suffer another Concord in terms of public humiliation.
>>747632776Nobody that actually has both the power and cares enough wants to kill Marathon yet, cause it would be the definitive proof that Sony spent bilions to buy Bungie for absolutely nothing.This is the kind of failure that could end up with the CEO and other high positioned managers getting sacked by the board of shareholders, especially after the other live service failures like Concord.So Marathon must live, no matter how few people are playing it.
>>747641423Do keep in mind, there's way more at stake here. Concord was already bad enough, but that was "only" ~$400mil all-in for the game and developers, and just one game (and a handful of overly zealous promotional animations). But they spent nearly ten times the amount they dropped on Fire(d)walk AND Concord just to buy Bungie itself, only for Bungie to be the most ruinously incompetent consultants possible for Sony's desire to pursue a stronger GaaS direction, including actively killing games in development and giving the thumbs-up to games that should've been immediately obvious red flags (Fairgame$, whatever happened there...).There's going to be FAR greater consequences for whenever the chickens come home to roost, so they're trying to delay that as much as they can in the hopes of either a miracle comeback that has to be studied, or that their golden parachutes will be ready for them in time.
>>747632776herman cuck is literally going to shutdown half of playstation studios to keep bungie and marathon aliveexpect naughty dog's closure announcement in a few months
>>747634137>So...just like steam?I paid for my games like over a decade ago and played them for all this time no issue.>Remember gog doesn't have this problem. I own the games forever no one can restrict my access, censor them or use any legality to restrict my access. I own them as backups.Like Steam?
>>747640549especially with destiny's next update
Hey shill mods, you can delete all the threads you want it still won't change reality LMFAO
>>747635475
>>747642227So this is what could finally get that motherfucker Helman FIRED?
>>747644203>Concord was two years ago
RETVRN TO JAPAN SONYCALIFORNIA IS POISON
>>747632776You dont own the glass on your tv screens or monitors btw. The company does. They can record and store whatevers on the glass ( the screen) at any moment they want.
>>747632776Marathon can suck my cock. Even Fag Raiders has a bigger player count.
>>747644682My monitor is not connected to the internet, dumbo.
>>747632776>Did you ever imagine this was the Sony timeline we lived in?They're in their Arrogant Timeline again, but this time they're actually, factually and objectively failing and stumbling instead of the usual 'got nothing to show for' for a couple of yearsPS6 will have nothing to be look forward to if they continue this path and they're exploiting existing users as a milk cow instead of enticing new ones with good games. All of this is completely needless btw. They're shooting themselves with a uzi in their own foot
>>747644816Your computer is which its connected to dumbo.
>>747635659Im not sure if you are just THAT braindead or just a paid shill. Can be both.
>>747632776>meanwhile gta 6 will earn them so much money they'll be able to fund 20 more movieslop and 10 more gaas for the next decade Never punished.
>>747645312But I would realize if it started uploading monitor frames, they aren't exactly light you know?
>>747636440They refuse to accept reality because no matter what happens (except in a very few specific cases) it doesnt affect them.
>>747645556Thought you werent connected to the net? Point is no one owns whats on their screen. The company who makes the screen does. If you cant see where this is going then good for you but man this is bleek as hell. Think about it. At any given moment in time they could snap your screen store it build a case and fuck you.
>>747632776 I think I need to work as a Sony executive, I can't screw up any worse than the ones they have now are.
>>747640304It depends on how bad/tedious the PVE element will be. If those 4-map-runs suck ass and rewards are some shit you can get from a red key room in Command Wing or any gold key room - its gonna be dead, Jim. Same with Rook and progression. If Rook is nerfed or kept as a cuck - its gonna be iffy. Same with progression - if its going to be same lame shit as in S2 its bound to die.>faction rewards are mats>not even enough mats for anything>mats that sould be only on TCIV>no shields as rewards>no weapons or consumables or mods, just matsS1 was much better.>giant tick queen>underground mutantsWay back right after the release of S1 i was posting like a mad fuck about how to improve game and add content to it. Seems like they licked that one out of my posts.
>>747632776If your customers were retarded Snoyim you would put the same amount of effort (none) in
Hate to say it but gta will save playstation. The amount of cash that game will bring in upselling other games to new buyers will be insane.
>>747646047My point is, there is nothing on firmware level that would allow them to do what you say (on smart TVs they could though, maybe), because the monitor is not directly connected to the internet.Your PC is, but they need programs that run on your SO amd periodically upload pictures, and that kind of traffic can be monitored and intercepted by any user that install a network packet monitoring software like Wireshark.So yes, they could maybe technically do it, but it would be difficult, easy to discover and would bring massive financial lossess to any company that was found out.Plus, it's pretty unnecessary: if big tech wants to screw you, they can just monitor your internet traffic via an internet provider and the instant someone uplaod a loli picture in a thread you are browsing they can say you have CP on your PC.
>>747642373No not like Steam. Because if steam ever shuts down or you want to archive your games without having to use the steam client which is heavily proprietary you can't do that without breaking the lawGog you own the games legally under law steam you do not as most have DRM But you already knew this. You just want to argue despite what law says.
>>747646619I'm curious about this actually: from what I understand, while it's certainly easier to keep playing your games on Gog if the servers were ever shit down (that is, you wouldn't need to download a crack), in theory aren't you supposed to delete your Gog games, since they are still ultimately legally a license?
>>747646471It will no doubt, and Sony executives will keep making retarded decisions making playstation worse. Nothing ever changes >>747645725
I'm tired of trying to analyze what corporations are doing. They do retarded things because their customers let them get away with it. End of discussion. Nothing's ever going to change that.
>>747646804But they aren't really getting away with it, they are losing money at an impressive rate, they just don't seem to care for some reason.
>>747632776>outsold all of the abovecitation required. The only <OFFICIAL> numbers from Bungie or Sony is 400k users on discord. I don't care what your blogger guesses are
>>747635475why won't they just make it f2p with mtx, like all other games in this genre
Anthem lasted SEVEN yearsWas it a flop?
>>747632776TOP THE CHARTS
>>747632776It's not a sprint!
>>747646581LOL no it will be done or you take a hike and have no option. All hardware will be required to be online to use anyway, again You have no choice. Im not making this up. This is whats coming.
>>747646581Also its not even really about internet traffic. Its about whats on your screen and also what you are saying. Both will be used against you if they want.
>>747646581>>747647192And by saying I mean in the room youre in not on the computer, its that plus what you say in the room plus whats on your screen at any given moment in time.
>>747635475Why is Sony keeping it up?Avoiding refunds?Avoiding negative press/shareholder ramifications?This shit CAN'T be profitable to keep running like this.
>>747635475Imagine paying over a billion for this piece of shit
Blast havers status?
>>747647192>>747647278This sounds like the kind of thing peopel would flip over and just use old shit or hack their own devices to not allow them to do that, no matter how illegal it is.I mean, people already go around fucking up any Palantir camera they see, and that's far from being the invasion of privacy you are describing.
>>747632776Wolverine has 500k pre orders and is the top seller on PSN. Granted nothing else is out and Sony won't dare give the exact number but you literally can't fail in a world filled with a billion smelly jeets
>>747647341To save face, especially now after the Wolverine fiasco. I think Sony is just waiting for gta6 to drop, and all the normies loose their collective minds. It will do two things sell a gazillion copies, bail Sony out of the retarded decisions they've made. And allow them to quietly kill Marathon while nobody's looking.
>>747647341The EU digital service act means they have to keep the service available for at least 2 years or everyone gets a full refund. Marathon will stay for 2 years, bleeding their bank account lol
>>747634137Yes, like every games store.The problem isn't the facts, the problem is their garbage tier PR. This is just not the time to hit people over the head with it.
>>747646943Because the characters are ugly as sin and can't carry a f2p model>b-b-but marathon as an unique artstyleA simple, sterile style similar to the corpo crap that even normgroids have grown tired of years ago>b-b-b-b-but I like itIndians like eating shit, would you eat it too just because they do?
>>747646943Have you seen the game store? Hahaha fucking $17 for red or white color. F2p would mean higher server costs with no extra income. 0 players is perfect for them as that keeps maintenance costs low
>>747646943IIRC they made it free to try for a time (and that's were the peak is from), the problem is that most players bounced back immediately and uninstalled it well before the free trial even finished.When the free trial ended, only a tiny percentage choose to buy it, which barely contributed to slowing down the fall in player numbers.So even with a f2p model it probably wouldn't be a success.
>>747632776>Marathon is still here 7 months laterYeah, that's why it's called 'marathon' and not 'short sprint', they're here for the long haul, the finnish line is a ways off yet
>>747635475REMINDER that the 400 devs left are idling on menu every day, the real count was 300 retards willingly playing this shit
>>747647615>blasthad>lightningbottled>forums/reddit glazed>formreturned to>comebackbeing studied in universities around the world
>>747649415hook status?
>>747648478Could Bungie just drop a server binary and weasel out of that? It's not "dead" if anyone can host a match p2p.
>>747652058That would be an unacceptable loss of control for their own product.Companies like these would prefer to fail and go bankrupt rather than give the players any agency like that.
Marachads we fucking won
>>747652058Not really, bungie basically has no project to fall back on. Abandonning marathon now would just mean sony has no reason to keep them on the payroll.
>>747634137pcGODs have leverage by way of piracy, consolecucks are stuck in a walled garden or have to jump through 100 hoops to jailbreak
>>747635475There was a time when>it's only 700 because it's weekly maintenance, chuddiewas true.Now it's just naturally happening.
Man am I glad I am a millennial. I can enjoy these games no problem without worrying about stats and numbers because I’ve lived through the days when gaming was done by a few dozen online. I feel spoiled and thankful. I also enjoyed Highguard. Wish it would come back.
>>747653613Well but that's the thing though, even if you enjoy a game knowing it's a flop and it's going to get shut down pretty soon (and that it's certainly not going to get many big patches or events) has got to affect your enjoyment of the game.
>>747653870>has got to affect your enjoyment of the gameNot at all.
>>747642330>naughty dog's closure announcementND will at least get to finish Intergalactic. I'm sure Druckmann's Hollywood wannabe ass is under a microscope by the higher ups right now since they already dropped Kojima.
>>747635475Sony tells me Marathon is stable.Please god
>>747653940So you buy a (online) game and get invested even if it may get shut down at any moment?
>>747648478Never heard of that before
>>747654038The fact ND hasn't released anything new since TLoU2 6.5 years ago and has fuck all to show for Intergalactic and Druckmann saying some cryptic shit, gives me hope that ND will finally get cut off. Uncharted and TLoU had some great mechanics and production values, but those games came out on the fucking PS3, and people for some reason think they were successful for the story. Intergalactic looks like a From game from 15 years ago.
>>747654543I think tard wrangled into making more uncharted or TOLU3, or something with intergalactic's engine.
>>747654038Sure, but also consider the rest of the company. Cut him off. You now have a quarter billion dollar budget, who the fuck do you trust with that? The saaros people?
>>747634137>ctrl c ctrl v game folder>I now own a backupwow that was easy
>>747654543Wait, there is a gameplay trailer of Intergalactic? The only thing I saw of that game was the initial teaser.
>>747654736NTA, but the point is that you would need a crack to run those games should Steam server ever get shut down.Not that it would be particularly difficult, but it's still an extra step compared to GoG.
>>747644637TORtanic was 15 years ago
>>747654216Nothing lasts forever, and I’ve had tons of fun already. If it keeps going, great, if not I move on. Till then, I enjoy.
>>747654543>ND will finally get cut offEverything except The Show and Gran Turismo are on the chopping block at Sony, I think. They know that all their money comes from 3rd parties and they're ready to just coast on being the default option for brown people all over the world.
>>747632776>also our lawyers say you dont own digital purchases you fuckin' chudIn NA, no, but in EU you do.
>>747654850Steam doesn't have any copy protection at all, being able to copy a folder and the zipped version of it (installer) is functionally identical. In fact the proprietary installer is just an added technical requirements that's better replaced with your own archiving. Tendies posing as GOGfags are so retarded and tech illiterate.
>>747654929But you still regret losing access to HighGuard.And instead of choosing to get invested in experiences this is less likely to happen, you choose these type of failed games again and again.
>>747655108Regret doesn’t equate to non enjoyment. If anything it equates to the opposite. In case you didn’t know - you will die one day. Everything you’ve enjoyed will disappear. Does that mean you should stop enjoying things?
>>747655092Wait, doesn't it automatically check for the cd key?I suppose any game that works in offline mode would work indefinitely even with the server shut down, but I don't remember if Steam needs you to periodically log in or not.
>>747632776Sony made a 4 billion dollar bet on this, Bungie put all its eggs into this basket, they'll keep it going as long as they can just to keep their heads from rolling a little longer.
>>747635475Imagine going back in time and telling someone that this is how a big budget Bungie release is doing less than a year after release. Holy fucking kek.
>>747655218No, but partecipating in a online game that's basically DOA sounds masochist to me. You do you, I guess.
>>747655538Works on my machine
>>747654038if they cancelled a mgs spiritual sequel exclusive by kojima literally nobody is safe, specially not a new single player ip that was already badly received from trailer 1
>>747640549this game is dogshit though. destiny fans dont realize how gay they actually are its sad
>>747632776it's pretty much entirely one man's fault
>>747632776What a bizarre snoy cope thread. I guess the only thing they can celebrate now is their company spending a bunch of money to keep a dead game running
>>747634137I've jailbroken every Steam game I'd feel bad about losing already anyways, it's trivial to do
>>747632776The answer is to keep chasing the Fortnite audience.
>>747655220Games usually (optionally) need steam open to launch but whether it's online or not depends. This is different from copy protection such as in physical DRM, where you're just unable to copy and modify files as part of the anti-consumer design, no PC-based service works like that as far as I know, maybe some trash like Adobe where they make file systems obscured and convoluted.
>>747655646Druckmann has blackmail on Playstation execs through jewish voodoo magic.
How did they make it this successful, bros? That's the Bungie magic
Kino
I love Marathon.
Can I get a hell yeah?
Hell yeah!
>>747648237>late lurker replyIf your modem is from xfinity it records your movements in your home. If you own any LG smart devices, they audio and sometimes video record everything in front of them. They have limited onboard data storage for when there is no network, but upload their recordings as soon as they can connect to your phone or internet. Nearly all smart devices with audio controls are recording and uploading that data 100% of the time they are online. If you have a smart vacuum with ir/visual mapping, it uploads the scans/video to its company. If you have smart climate control, it allows for offsite control, and user lockouts. If you have a 5g smartphone, it is recording and uploading audio at all times. It is recording every call you make on every app. It is recording your location, even when location is turned off. It is taking pictures of your face while you are using it. These are all well published facts, had stories in the mainstream news, and no one has cared. Convenience is worth the privacy invasion.
>seasonal content model dead>update pushed to Decemberyeah it's over
>>747658906The update sounds pretty huge. PvE mode will be permanent, they’re adding some live fire experimental zones to test out guns, and a TDM mode on top of a bunch of new classes, weapons, and maps. And they’re still planning on doing an economy reset with some QoL changes on October 6th.Yup, us Marachads are eating good.
>>747632776Death Stranding 2 selling very little compared to 1 makes me happy.Proves people can learn they were completely misled by the hype surrounding kojimbless and his true fans are deranged.
>>747655220It hasn't done that in decades, you fat retard
>>747632776>outsoldproofs?
>>747659119>pvewhat's the fucking point? arc raiders devs also created this pointless schism by listening to retarded whiners instead of sticking to their guns and it didn't fix anythingI can't believe I'm saying this but even chinks are better at live services
>>747634137>snoy deflection and seething>bad news for marathon hours laterEvery time
>>747632776I wasn't aware those other games also had 4 billion dollars worth of sunk cost fallacy
>>747647029Just like Marathon, Anthem was a commercial flop within a month of launching.
>>747655710When I say>Thank You,You say>Jim!THANK YOU,
Reality is gamers don't want $300,000,000 games that take 8 years to make.
>>747660230It's not a problem if they're good. Problem is, they never are.
>>747660230The only exception are behemoth games like CP2077 or GTA6, but those are surrounded by an Arlington National Cemetery sized graveyard of flop games that had nine figure dev budgets.
>>747659620I’m not one of those asking for PvE, however the experimental PvE they added (Vault Breaker) was lots of fun and it gives you a chance to explore the maps a bit better without being pressured by loss of gear. Considering that the maps are really detailed and full of environmental storytelling, I appreciate the ability to do PvE now and again. I’m definitely in full support of it.
>>747632776will be a blast for the nearly 300 players on a weekend
>>747634137The difference is that those games don't become hardware-gated when I upgrade.
>>747632776>and is getting ready for its new season and largest ever content update next weekI bet you feel REALLY stupid now that it has been delayed an extra 3 months until December 8th, huh, OP?
>>747635659You can't be serious you stupid roody poo the game is on life support, candy ass.
>>747661760>They are abandoning Zeiglers bullshit to give everyone what they want>PVE mode with the Tick Queen image confirming leaks >PVP team deathmatch>Social Space>Firing Range>Abandoning the live service "only do major changes at the start of a season model">Doing wipe 2 weeks later with new reward pass to undo the damage THEY SAID, SO EAT SHIT THAT ONE GUY, was done by starting season 2 giving sweatkings loot to start withThey are breaking away from the zoomer targeting mindset. This is an absolute win lad.
>>747632776such a shame cause personally i love the aesthetic of the game, but i can't bring myself to grind not like i did at launch anyways, there's this constant reminder in my head that the servers might be taken down any day cause of lack of players. It might be obvious to others but what really went wrong? did everyone just stop caring for extraction shooters or is it all because of the plagiarism?...
>>747662558Based Marachad
>>747632776>Marathon is still here 7 months later, outsold all of the aboveDeath Stranding 2, 2.5 million sales, $170 million revenueMarathon, 1.2M Sales, $55 million revenue Guess which one will still be getting sales 1 year, 5 years and 10 years from now
>>747662558>absolute winGoing from a retarded target audience to no target audience.
>Marathon relaunching in December as Marathon Symbiosis.They did. Those crazy sons of bitches actually did it..
>>747663447>They did. Those crazy sons of bitches actually did it..yeah, they did it again. expect the EOS announcement in late November
>>747663447Is it a miracle? No. It’s a maracle!
>>747662916And yet DS2 underperformed according to Sony, so we'll cancel PHYSINT but keep shit like Marathon alive. seriously what is Sony's deal?
>>747632776Don't forget>Marathon>Losing to dragon balls polishing simulator
>>747664213Sony is being based by cancelling Kojislop and keeping based Marathon alive. All trannnies seething. Real gamers and sci fi lovers rejoice.
kek
Thank you Bungie for another based game!
