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(remaking this bread because the first one died and I'm very depressed and want to talk about MH)
who's your favorite monstie? for me its got to be jho
>hardest normal fight but not cheap or annoying, at least for hammer
>intimidating and cool design
>coolest looking armor and weapons
>always have elite skills on them too
I'm playing world for the first time and I'm pretty happy with this version of him. Hopefully killing the G rank version solo (assuming there is one) wont be as brutal as GU
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I like Gore. In particular C.Gore is some of the most fun fights in the series.
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>"bread"
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Tiger zamtrios is hella cool. I'm not 100% on this but I think random ball spitting attacks(or mud) hit every place once, so if you run to a spot that got hit you're safe.
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>>747632873
that's a big pickle
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Starting MHW, does clutch claw really ruin the base game?
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>>747633331
if you're a mh veteran yes, if no then no because you won't abuse it.
it's an annoying forced ritual on MR or you lose on 25%+ dps.
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>>747633331
If you're an MH veteran - no, if no then also no. CC is whatever. You can use it, you can not use it, it's a marginal increase in damage. Just don't try to spam it when it's unsafe. CC is nowhere near as bad and intrusive as magical bugs were in Rise.
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>>747633803
>>747633651
Got it, thanks :D
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>>747633803
>it's a marginal increase in damage
Why do you lie? Do you not know how part weaknesses work? It's mandatory on certain monsters and certain weapons.

>CC is nowhere near as bad and intrusive as magical bugs were in Rise.
You're a world fag, got it (that means any and all of your opinions are dogshit and invalid).
Hunting arts and hunting arts 2.0 (wirebug skills) are just more moves for the weapon movesets.
Clutch claw is the exact same shit on every single weapon.
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I like Nargacuga
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>>747633331
>he used crutch claw
YDBTG
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magala, my beloved
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>>747633187
>toasting in epic bread FTW
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gotta be 'cuga
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>>747634053
I'd just like you to know that I have already taken the information "clutch claw is fine" from this thread and will use it as much as I feel like. Hope that makes you even angrier
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>>747634920
???
The mechanic itself is dogshit.
Not only did they nerf weakness exploit, monsters like jyuratodus are a chore without it.
I was once doing a bow playthrough and holy fucking shit that sucked ass.
Saying it's "optional" and "a slight dps decrease" is flatout lying.
Hunts take up to 50% longer depending on shitzones.
Use it, world is completely unplayable without it.
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>>747634920
if you want to make the game easier and less fun than by all means
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>>747635178
That's from the expansion, I assume. I asked about base game specifically. Try reading posts fully before getting angry
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>>747635178
>world is completely unplayable without it.
I just finished HR and never used it and it was great. am I really going to be forced into this shit in IB? I mean all it does is give you a couple free hits doesnt it?
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>bread
>monstie
>armor
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>>747635268
>>monstie
Are the stories games any good?
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>>747635259
... It's the mud fish you fight on like the third hunt.
You can just use the water pods to make it easier, but it was just an example.
Why the smugness when you're talking out of your ass?

>>747635261
No, it "tenderizes" the monsters.
It's when they become grey/light brown looking.
There's 3 damage types, slash, blunt and shot.
Different monster parts have different hitzones, and some monsters don't have any good hitzones for specific damage types.
By tenderizing, you make bad hitzones serviceable, and good hitzones better.
Base world was not designed around it, but iceborne was.
The further you get, the more mandatory it becomes.
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>>747635429
Too overwhelming.
I remember playing the first one for like 20 hours, dropping it for a while to do something else, then when I came back I had no idea where to go or what I was doing.
It was fun to play but the story was too complicated.

I guess that's why they called it stories.
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"tenderizing is bad because it nerfs weakness exploit" is a problem with weakness exploit; not tenderizing
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>>747635429
I certainly don't think so:
Characters are too boring to care for (with very few exceptions)
Monsters don't have enough cuteness/personality for me to care for them; they're cool to hunt in the main series, but not good for this kind of game.
Story is bland
Gameplay is barely adequate.
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I cleared base game and IB solo without CC, ask me anything.
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>>747635801
Please do me a favor and kill yourself.
> Pre iceborne
Wex3 = 50% affinity on good hitzone
> After iceborne
Wex3 = 30% affinity on good hitzone + 20% if tenderized
It was literally nerfed to push you to use CC.
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tfw Mister Monster doesn't hold still for the tenderize and I have to watch youtube guides where it's shown how to cheese and trivialize the game, so that I start doing the same shit routine in every hunt and then confuse my self inflicted problem with bad game design

>>747635595
>some monsters don't have any good hitzones for specific damage types
there's not a single monster that doesn't have at least one good hitzone for any damage
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>>747632873
I like jho in Gen3 and I'm also a nibel enjoyer
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If you used a bowgun, you didn't just not beat the game; you didn't even play the game
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>>747632873
You know what? I'll be called a retard but I'll say it.
I LOVE FIGHTING TIGREX
>But he is unfair...
I love it, I love it's chaos, the random charges, the spins, the huge leaps and most of all, the screams.
I love getting angry playing monhun a d tigrex always delivers, the 3 roars in a row plus random charge never fails to make me fume, and that's why I play this game. In the end the tigrex and I are both the same, two retards screaming at each other on the other side of the screen. 10/10 fight.
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>>747632873
Depression is not a joking matter. Find something else to do to avoid a downward spiral, like other hobbies or meeting with friends and family. Take care of yourself anon.

Anyways, my fav large mon is
>Lagiacrus
Sleek, deadly, unique.
My fav early game mon is
>Qurupeco
Its mimicry is too good and severely underutilized.
My favorite guild gal is an even split between Aisha (Moga Sweetheart) and Demetoria (from Frontier).
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>>747636279
If the hitzone is impossible to hit consistently, it might as well not exist.
Besides the point, it's mandatory for iceborne, and mandatory for Wex, which itself is mandatory for most crit builds.
It adds up to hunts being anywhere from 40 to 60% faster by using it.
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>>747636575
Oh how I miss using adept vs tigrex... It's so fun.

>>747636668
Impeccable taste, trifag anon.
I personally like Great Jaggi more than Peco, but I like them both.
And my favorite guild gal is Sophia.
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>>747636668
>meeting with friends and family
anon, why would you assume I have any of those people to hang out with. Because I do not
>other hobbies
my "productive hobby" of making art only brings more sadness now. shitpost, shitty job and gaming is all I got left.
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>>747633331
Literally only if you're speedtranny who gets offended that you have to juggle more mechanics to get le epic epeen noombers
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I just think he's neat
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>>747632873
glavenus. I'm such a dedicated GS main I even beat mh1 with it so I basically have to say that
but he's also just a great combo of fun to fight with all his different modes and feints while keeping his shit in reach unlike most brutes, but also doesn't go full magic anime superpower bullshit AND he has cool gear that gives you handicraft aka the best skill ever and a cool theme.
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>>747636201
Maybe a skill that gives you a 12% damage bonus for doing something you should already be doing shouldn't exist
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>>747634920
Holy based!
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>>747636558
This may be bait, but sentiments like these is a testament to how blatantly ignorant or stupid some hunters are.
Bowguns are masterful damage/supports with an extreme range of utility with their ammo, including heals, buffs, ailments and just regular damage. Good bowgun plays often requires more skill than most melee weapons due to keeping track of other hunters and how many more ammo is needed per monster to trigger a paralysis at the right moment.

Pic only related because this is my only bowgun monhun image. Please post some if someone has any.
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>>747637214
>Good bowgun plays often requires more skill than most melee weapons due to keeping track of other hunters and how many more ammo is needed per monster to trigger a paralysis at the right moment.
So you admit you don't need to engage with the monster moveset at all. Thanks for conceding.
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>>747636015
how did you beat Fatalis in time?
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>>747637214
playing with other hunters already requires zero skill no matter what weapon you're using, so that's irrelevant.
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>>747632873
What is there to talk about in nuMH?
The new games are utterly bastardized beyond recognition you'd thank capcom for not putting your favorite mons in the new game where it'll become a one and done punching bag.
>Hopefully killing the G rank version solo (assuming there is one) wont be as brutal as GU
G-rank or Master Rank Jho in world, as the babies say it these days, has been lobotomized into nothingness. He's a non-threat. A bad jhoke. You literally can just touch the guy and he'll recoil in pain, giving you an opportunity to wail on him and rendering his formerly terrifyingly huge HP pool useless.
God i fucking hate nuMH.
To answer your on-topic question, my favorite is gigginox, and i thank the lord everyday they didn't bring him back.
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"If you're playing the game with a bowgun, you will never in a trillion years experience the game. You'll think you have experienced it, but you'll be cheated. It's such a sadness, that you think you've played a monster hunter, with a fucking bowgun. Get real."
-David Lynch
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>>747637214
Wtf is up with the retarded baiters? Are monhun threads usually like this?
Anyway, the thing about gunners is that everyone has bad experiences with them.
The lack of defense means it's super punishing to use, so you get a bunch of people fainting using them.
In current mh, it doesn't really matter, you're getting one shot whether you're blade or gun though.
Anyway, I miss adept lbg and bow.
I do not miss having to dupe latch berries though.
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>>747633331
Clutch Claw hate is overblown.
You literally can ignore the whole thing and play the game normally. The seething mostly came from minmaxxing sweaty niggers because they had to [perform x] to get their 20% WEX affinity back and also increased hitzone number.

Clagger is another thing entirely and that shit deserves to be hated.
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>>747633331
The most intrusive thing about it is that every other monster flinch is turned into an extended "clagger" (claw stagger) state where the monster just holds still and drools like a retard for a few seconds to give you a claw opening, which breaks the flow of combat even if you choose not to use the claw. Can be modded out, though.
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>>747636906
>And my favorite guild gal is Sophia.
Based. Patrician's choice.

>>747636973
>why would you assume I have any of those people to hang out with
Monster hunter is genuinely one of the friendliest communities in the entire industry. Find a local or national monhun forum and meet up with a few players.
I have quite a few good friends I meet up with physically from monhun games.

>productive hobby
Whether a hobby is productive or not always felt like some sort of societal pressure to me. Just try things out, maybe you'll like the driving range of a golf course or bowling.
If you're really stuck, getting outside help isn't a weakness.
If it makes you sad then switch things up a bit, perhaps that'll help.
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>>747636779
how about you simply use it, instead of abuse it / forcing it? now your hunts are like 10% slower compared to the "optimal" CC use
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>>747637534
>>747637518
What's the problem with just using the designated clagger punish on a clagger? It's like a riposte in Dank Souls
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>>747637534
yeah I thought it was weird how monsters keep doing this while playing through base game. It was already pretty easy compared to 4u and gu so the extra staggering wasnt really needed. oh well Im sure IB will be much harder now.
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>>747637604
the problem is that unless you're a speedrunner you're not going to actually keep track of how you're about to hit the threshold to cause clagger, meaning when the monster leaps back 30 feet to ahegao I'm gonna whiff with whatever I was doing because the first hit of a multi hit move caused clagger

it's not something that happens often. but when you whiff the perfect TCS because of it it's hard not to declare jihad against capcom
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>>747637604
>It's like a riposte in Dank Souls
Dark souls ripostes come off of parries or doing a set amount of damage, which doesn't happen too often or takes effort to pull off and thus feels rewarding.
Parrying and ripostes have also been a mainstay thing in soulsborne while clagger is an entirely new thing in Iceborne.
Clagger is also just another mechanic to stop a monster in its tracks, in a game where you have multiple ways to do it already (exhaust, traps, trips, flash bombs, sonic bombs, etc.). It's just a redundant, casualizing mechanic that was hastily slapped in because playtesters couldn't find an opening for tenderizing with the clutch claw.
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>>747632873
Barioth. I never get tired of hunting it, severing the tail, breaking the wings, and shattering those fangs.
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>>747637584
I feel disgusted even just replying to you.
Using clutch claw consists of tenderizing every 3 minutes.
That's it.
There's no abusing it.
This is literally how it was designed to be used.
It's not fun, it's not skillful, it's just a humiliation ritual you have to go through.
Again, it's a 40% hunt time difference.
If you're just playing for the story, kill yourself, then it's whatever, you're not grinding for materials so taking 3 extra minutes on a hunt means nothing to you.
If you're trying to get gems and plates, it adds up very fast.
I think you have never played monster hunter.
Not even NuMH.
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>>747637860
> Baby tigrex palico armor
I would just like to say that I noticed it.
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>>747637261
>implying positioning for good shots requires no engagement with monster moveset
As I said, solid bait. 7/10.
>>747637282
Guess that's fair to some degree, but then you should take care of other hunters. Not to be in their way, not to stagger them, etc.
Good ranged weapon wielders are no different and like HH players you also have to be aware of other hunters for heals (with recovery ammo) for example.
>>747637489
New monhun games seemingly brought a new, saltier community.
I fully understand the bad experiences with gunners, but good ones shine that much brighter when they are competent in my opinion. I think its similar to the LS players often hacking mindlessly without a care in the world for other hunters' attacks.
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>>747637989
Nice taste.
You don't like drilltusk though? The gear looks so cool.
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>>747638004
>I wanna do the same thing over and over (fighting a monster for plates)
>but I don't wanna do a different thing over and over (do a move that makes the monster die and maybe give a plate sooner)
it's no different then having to keep topping off the meter most weapons have, or fucking sharpening. it's all busywork to make stick do more damage
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I like cutting tails, especially from the raths while they are flying

>>747638004
NTA don't get me wrong I think the whole grappling onto the big drooling face and then hopping off thing is kinda dumb, but also you're an overdramatic little bitch
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>>747637978
Yeah. It's one of the most Monster Hunter monsters in gameplay.
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>>747638201
I legitimately would rather just hurl slurs at you, I'm sure it'd be more productive.
No, it's not the same thing as building the meter.
Building the meter does not break the flow of combat for most weapons.
The exception is what, CB? And that's it?
Sharpening is a non issue, razor sharp, handicraft and master's touch means you don't have to sharpen at all.
You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
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>>747638304
>fighting some Rathian in the grinding lands until it gets to the point where it flees
>hit dragon piercer from the perfect angle just before it rounds the corner and sever the tail
My life peaked there.
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>>747638304
>you're an overdramatic little bitch
Sorry for caring about my favorite franchise that I've been playing for 2/3 of my life (tri).
I'll continue bashing shitty mechanics that bog down the games, and I'll continue calling out the retards defending them.
Specially when they're flatout wrong.
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you dont even have to put your weapon away to claw but somehow this is more disrupting then having your entire build dedicated to having every anti sharpness skill instead of literally anything else

tribabs are always so funny
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how do you guys have the patience to kill a monster 20 times trying to get a rare part instead of just modding it in
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>>747638201
It’s fair to compare and contrast with sharpening, but that is something you do during downtime and you can’t do much of anything else, like when the monster is mounted, zoning, etc. Claggers, tenderizing, wallbangs are things that interfere with or override combat directly. In general, staggering monsters being less reliable in favor of some super stagger amounting to a cutscene you’re supposed to cash out is something that plagues all three modern Monster Hunters, though at least Sunbreak permits the player to turn auto-mounting off.

Refocusing on the topic of World, it’s possible to reject the optimization autism and not wallbang the monster and every invader the instant their enrages end, but then tenderizing still holds significant influence on hitzones and the viability of partbreaks accordingly and claggers are a hard stop on combat like mounting but without being able to prevent them from triggering. It goes without saying that a monster reeling a mile away at random is even more disruptive in multiplayer.

Some of the claw attacks unique to weapons like Lance’s claw counter are compelling in a void, and there were some fights that rewarded smart mid-attack grappling as with Velk, so it’s the fault of the peripheral systems being so poorly conceived more than the idea of latching onto a monster being at fault. Think Capcom knew it, too. The fact we got a deco at the end of Iceborne’s lifespan that significantly alleviated tenderizing felt all too conciliatory.
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>>747638553
>I'll continue bashing shitty mechanics that bog down the games
thanks for getting rid of paintballs, shitty hitboxes, robotic spin to wins and changing the enraged mechanic so that you can actually do something instead of waiting for the monster to calm down. FU had to crawl and 4U had to walk so that World IB could run right into the wall with Wilds
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from a design point its these three for me (all 3 are kinda bad to fight, btw i dont know the exact names):
b52 dragon that drops bombs
tiger dragon that charges
teleporting dragon from rise
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>>747639029
It's called being white
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>>747639006
who are you shizo talking to?
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>>747639029
it's called hawing autism
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>>747639139
and then there’s Rise launching in a horribly rushed and unfinished state and then rallying hard with Sunbreak as one of the best entries in spite of it.
Here’s to hoping that no matter how generic mainline MH becomes, we’ll see more experimental games to come.
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he's talking to me
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>>747639006
>every anti sharpness skill
You pick one.
You can't be serious lol

>>747639317
Me, though for some reason he's scared to tag my reply.

>>747639139
Hey fuck you, paintballs were fun.
Yes, I just used psychoserum but that's besides the point... Fuck you.

>>747639108
Pretty sure that's just a troll.
All of his arguments are super surface level and easily debunkable (something trolls do to keep you engaged).
I know you're replying to clear up the misinformation for other anons reading, but he won't stop.
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>>747639029
Fighting the monster 20 times is the fun part. The rare drop is just the excuse.
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>>747639029
The people who put up with "le grind" do it because they don't see every hunt as a nuisance between them and a mantle, but an opportunity to learn their weapon against a specific monster and find the marginal improvements fun
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>>747632873
Easily Doragyurosu. Cool looking anf an excellent fight. Not to mention you fight him in the best location in the entire franchise. My number 2 is Chaos Gore because of how perfect that fight is with a swax.
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>>747639850
I do it for connectionist tism.
I like crafting every weapon and armor.
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>>747640337
Collectionism*
I really should stop glide typing.
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>>747639850
after the 10th hunt it just becomes boring because you're locked into the map with the monster for 10 minutes and both know how it'll end. it took 17 dead Nargas to craft ONE weapon
why did they have to ruin the series with Wilds?
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>>747640616
I can't remember the last time I was forced to grind something for that long
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>>747639810
>Pretty sure that’s just a troll.
Zero doubt about that. I just saw an excuse to talk about monhun game design and took it.
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>>747637860
SHINY
GET IT IT COULD BE A RARE DROP
oh what am I saying, this is post-FU
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>>747637160
all damage skills are bad. MHs attribute system is very simple, it doesn't take a lot to figure (near) optimal sets. Higher damage always doubles as a survival skill. The faster you kill a monster the less potions you use, the less you faint. You get flinches and topples and breakoffs faster, you might even save additional time by preventing a monster to flee.

Defensive skills are virtually useless as long as you don't get OHKO'd. They don't do anything until you get hit and even then you have no access to unlimited heal items. Cheap shots and death combos barely exist anymore. Status does shit and can be easily cured.

Damage skills are only acceptable if they are super situational. Old Wex was way better for being a variable damage buff, but it was a damage buff nonetheless. Skills like bludgeoner, fencing or draw attack should make up damage skills. Even sharpness is fine if it is nerfed.
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>>747640912
>Hellblade drops a shiny
>Have to give up the stagger that was just earned to grab it before it disappears
>it’s just a wyvern tear fuck you
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>>747641001
this is the truth; the rift between having damage skills and not having them is only growing with modern MH as well, where Iceborne was actively balanced around them. It’s possible for defensive skills to be interesting, though, as with Intrepid Heart and Heaven-Sent.
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>>747640713
how is he a troll if he's right? you oldgenners are just used to old bullshit because you grew up with it and lack the critical thinking to judge old and new mechanics unbiased. in short: CC is a nothingburger compared to some oldgen jank and latest gen retardation like focus mode (portable titles get a pass because they are monhun light)
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>>747632873
Green turd
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>>747640098
>z4 dora
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>>747641278
>oldgenners
Too much, anon.
Bait needs to be subtle.
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>>747639029
because hunting is FUN, grinding isn't a problem when you enjoy playing the goddamn game that you spent money on
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>>747632873
nyargacuga
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>>747640098
>unironic dora apologist
i never expected to find someone worse than gammothfags
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>>747642648
It's fun until it's a monster you don't enjoy. Fuck you inagami.
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>>747641224
Rise had a lot of fun skills, we just need to get rid of some of the pointless bloat
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>>747632873
>monstie
I was thinking either blue crab or red crab. But really its seregios. The desert maps grew on me, looks cool and has cool armour.
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>>747643718
miserable to fight though, FUCK steve
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>>747641278
>you’re biased because what about other game
>this is nothing because other game did something else as bad or worse
Defending something by attacking everything around it cannot save it from itself.
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>>747643457
if by some you mean all of it, then sign me up

>>747643718
>cool gimmick on weapons
>cool aesthetic
>cool moveset
>hot talons
Steve has it all
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>>747632873
Im a simple guy. T-Rexs are cool.
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>>747644201
what's up with those "fuck me" eyes
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diablos, acidic glavenus is cool too. the first time i fight one was in p3rd and i remember getting my ass beat and getting a single hit in after it charged. the horn greatsword was pretty sick as a reward for learning the fight. i don't really have fun with hunting monsters anymore, now i just run around sometimes to gather and fish. plus cumming to guild girls.
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>>747633331
No
You really aren't pressured to use the CC at all unless you're dead set on maximizing wallbangs and optimizing times, which you don't have to do at all, and especially not in LR/HR. Just hit the monster and use the clutch claw whenever you feel like it, like if Rathalos decides to fuck off to the sky for 30 seconds and you have nothing else you can do
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>>747634405
Gore rules and Shagaru drools. It's an overall downgrade imo
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>>747632873
My girlfriend had a toy that looked like that monster, minus the legs. Never actually saw her playing with it.
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so what's next now that they cancelled portable mh
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>>747646094
crashing this plane
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Arkveld's wing whips are cool
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>>747646094
>cancelled portable mh
Huh?
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>>747647274
You'll be sent to the gallows momentarily do not leave your tent.
>wilds so empty anon still arguing about worldshit
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>>747632873
I like Amatsu
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>>747647834
Maybe because world's the only entry anybody's fucking played anymore.
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>>747632873
>who's your favorite monstie?
Khezu
I still have that MH1 ecology burned into my brain. Also the melee armor was cool.
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>>747644201
Best thing to come out of world.
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>>747640616
It took you 17 hunts in wilds???
The game notorious for giving away plates and gems
Thats impressive
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>>747641278
Mhxx introduced arts and styles
And risebreal built on that
If anything getting this booster mechanic is the direct fault of hand helds and they should be held accountable for making the game worse
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>>747633331
Base world doesn't matter. If anything it's a bonus for extra damage. Iceborn made it mandatory for the most wich is mixed. I like it some fights like Alatreon and Fatalis, but that may just be stockholm.
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Where are they????
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>>747633331
I never used it and I beat the game and expansion. Not out of some faggot "principled stand" or something, I just never felt the need to bother.

Only on two individual missions did I have trouble with having too much time pressure and this was because I'd not been grinding at all for a while, didn't have the necessary equipment, and I'm a talentless poke-stick main (lowest DPS class) that never bothered to learn my combos properly. It really exposes what shitters the people complaining about it are.
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>>747649196
MH has this problem of introducing the coolest monsters ever and then never bringing them back.
Bug and Bird monsters get this the words.
Hypnocatice, Malfestio, and Quropeco were all one shots. Queen Vespid, Seltas/S, Queen and Raizex for bugs we got lucky with Nerscylla's return considering they already had a spider monster for Wilds.
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Thoughts on SnS players?
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I wouldn't mind seeing arts returning, but not as they were in gen/x.
Instead, have arts come built into specific weapons. Just for example, most narga weapons giving absolute evasion.
It could be a cool balancing factor to give otherwise mediocre weapons a crazy art.
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what game have you enjoyed the most? I started with World, then GU and Rise, and I believe I've enjoyed GU the most since it has a fuckton of content and is way more challenging than the other games. I know some anons complain about the styles but I never touched that stuff and never bothered me. As for fav monsters I think Malfestio is cool, provides a sort of different challenge
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>>747649607
giga chads. the only gayboy weapon is IG
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>>747649663
I started with World and put almost 3500 hours into it. I also really enjoyed playing Dos.
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>>747632873
>Agnaktor
He never got his time to truly shine
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I love Rey Dau
Shame he is in the worst monhun, would love to see how he would be in classic games
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>>747649845
>that jaw snapping
>that sick beam
He's a good replacement for Gravios
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>>747649607
If you played SnS before mhgu you were either a support sissy or a masochist solo player
During or after mhgu you're just like any other fast weapon that doesn't need commitment
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>>747649607
walking onaholes
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>>747649973
Ascendance will save him, Wilds, the series and capcom
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What's the one objectively best weapon type?
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>>747650381
Gunlance
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>>747649470
>I never used it and I beat the game and expansion. Not out of some faggot "principled stand" or something, I just never felt the need to bother.
I never used it cause I didn't know about it until Alatreon.
I don't, know, I just hit monsters with my horn until they go down. I mash in fights, I mash in dialogue prompts. Simple as
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>>747649978
that's Uragaan
Agnaktor is a Lavasioth replacement
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>>747650381
Charge blade just does it all with style
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>>747650505
Uragaan was the worst tri addition
and he even made it into worlds
utter disgust
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>>747648951
ACKSHUALLY Frontier introduced styles, but they're still fairly basic compared to xx, and extreme style shits all over earth, storm and heaven styles
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>>747650613
and he even got his own area. I don't know why people hate him. He is a creative addition, not only for his design but unique traits like his head being a shitzone for once
Most importantly he is like 200% more enjoyable than Gravios let alone Black Nigger
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>>747633803
Most retarded post on this site currently
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>>747650109
Dos/MHFU SnS is disgustingly OP
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>>747634920
>I'm being a disingenuous nigger, u mad?
Are you really that bored that this is your life?
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>>747633331
I dunno. I only used Gunlance for 95% of Iceborne and ignored half the mechanics and skills other weapons care about LMAO.
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>>747651160
When the fuck are we getting Tonfas? Or any new weapon?
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>>747651916
Maaybe next mainline IF they keep porting frontier monsters and people are happy about them
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>>747651916
Hopefully never, I don't want them to ruin good stuff in shit nu-MH
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>>747649663
Tri becuase it was the first MH I played Online with other players and was really memorable the whole way through.
F1/2 becuase they where the first games in the series I played on the PSP for hours on end.
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>>747632873
>Roars and pounds his big chin chin on the floor
I want a pet Uragaan. I have no idea how that would work but I want one, he’s my favorite.
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>>747646094
Is there a reason why such a large portion of the fanbase is desperately hoping that half of the whole series gets erased for no good reason?
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>>747632873
>Hopefully killing the G rank version solo (assuming there is one) wont be as brutal as GU
World doesn't have a seperate online and solo mode so the quests will rebalance based on the amount of players, it'll probably be easier.
Also World G rank only has savage Jho
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>>747652315
That's a pretty good question. Not counting Stories, what monsters outside the usual tamed herbivores could you feasibly keep as a pet.
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>>747633331
>better than the shitty clutchclaw
>whole movesets behind the gimmick, oils and frontier moves are back
>you fill the bar by playing the game and not shitty tier mobile timers like rise/sb

APOLOGIZE
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>>747652646
So its rise again with wire bugs...
I am very comfortable in my bed ready to snooze
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>>747648786
no, in FU
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>TENDERIZING!
You had to put on a blanket for it or trade an opening for it. It's busywork. You can't handle something like that?
>THEY NERFED WEX!
World was already a further retardified MH. It's casualized to hell and back when compared to GU and even then GU was casualized as fuck compared to 4U. You shouldn't have issues with that in a game where getting crit has never been easier. Plus, you can always overcrit to 120%.
>THEY NERFED HITZONES FOR IT!
Yeah and? World is already an easy bitch game. Do you really want it to be easier? You do know that you can get 100% crit even without WEX right?
>BUT WALLBANGS!
Literally just don't do it. It's the same as mounting. Like dude, just fight the monster the same way you would in any MH. You want to wallbang the monster twice and get a free opening? Be my guest. But don't be retarded enough to complain about it after doing it. You can always slap 3 times to prevent randoms from wallbanging monsters.
>BUT CLAGGERS!
Yeah. That's the one thing bad about CC. Not even i would defend that.

Imagine still bitching about CC in 2026. Holy shit.
The whole argument about people bitching about the clutch claw WILL ALWAYS boil down to shitter niggers whining because of OPTIONAL busywork or tedium.

The thing about the clutch claw is that it DID NOT bastardize the game as much as how silkbinds(gives almost every weapon a form of parry & super armor) or focus(removes commitment) or offsets(every weapon can counter in assdance) or wirefall/seikret call(removes consequences) did.
If anything, it added tedium. As opposed to like, hunter arts and the like, which added ZERO difficulty and instead REDUCED difficulty by giving hunters more options to overcome obstacles with no noticeable tedium or downsides whatsoever.
And you subhumans BITCH about that in an age where MH is gradually being stripped away from tedium and difficulty as much as possible.
Goddamn you are a fucking shitter. Go play Wilds and stay there, you subhuman animals.
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>>747651160
To be fair frontier was hard to get into as EU
And i never bothered trying to self host
I wonder if its worth it
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>>747652976
My apologies
Marrow or sinew or w.e was cancer to get
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>>747653004
I don't bitch about CC for existing I bitch about CC because I knew it was the dead canary in the coal mine that MH was going to add m re shit like it and escalate the problem. Rise and Wilds proved me right.
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>>747653004
World is casualized garbage with the worst roster in the franchise, You don't need to write an essay just to cope worldbab
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>>747653014
It's easier than ever now, it started getting private servers in early 2020s. Now you just pick a server, download and play. Just don't pick rain if you hate d*scord because it's mandatory now to play on that server. It's worth trying out at least. Past a certain point it becomes its own thing, and you'll notice mainline has been borrowing from frontier for a while now. Personally love it
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>>747653543
>worst roster in the franchise
have you played FU?
when you do village it feels like there are 5 monsters total because of the quest bloat
>monster x
>monster x but two!
>monster x but green!
>monster x but green but two!
>monster x but with monster x green!
meanwhile other monsters show up once and then never again for another 50 hours of gameplay. I didn't have the same impression while playing World
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>>747653262
>the dead canary in the coal mine
nah that would be gen/U styles and art
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>>747653004
You can spot the seconday poser when they say shit about silkbinds or whatever and then turn around and say that hunter arts and styles did not do the same exact things but worse.
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>>747649973
I like all of the Wilds' apexes desu, even Jin has great armor and weapons despite being a middling fight
I hope Ascendance doesn't just invalidate them by replacing them with regional elders, I'd like it if they all got stronger regional variants/deviants as a result of the evolutionary pressure put on them by the proliferation of Arkveld and the arrival of Elder dragons were there weren't any previously
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Convince me not to replay FU
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>>747656620
I won't
Retvrn home hunter. Pokke is waiting for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIKN8SvILNk
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>>747656620
have fun grinding for mats + doing the farm humiliation after every hunt
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>>747632873
I just think he's neat
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>>747657103
Because he is. Loved his weapons and armor
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>>747652515
Sour grapes, unironically. It's not that they don't have the means to play the older games, but they missed the "era" and are forever coping.
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Tigrex, the goat.
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>>747657352
I just want MH to be this simple again
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wirebugs are so much fun. I went back to play Rise after basically finishing Wilds and it's been great. The end game weapon farm for Wilds has been so fucking dogshit I just ended up using the Dark Knight set and the shatter greatsword for the big white sharpness and it looks cool
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>>747637074
i really like this guys blademaster set, needs to come back for that alone
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>play 3U on 3ds xl with the c-stick
>raped underwater by royal ludroth
>switch to 4U
>doing better, still frustrating
How the fuck did you boomers play this shit? The DS display is so shit when you go underwater everything turns to vague blurry shapes
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>>747657647
nothing's stopping you from playing GU literally right now
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>>747633331
Here's the thing anon. You can still beat the game and have a decent avg hunt time without using clutch. Speedrunning trannies would disagree tho.
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>>747657352
I miss blood
and gunner armor
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>>747657971
I'd say it's mandatory for gunners. Hit zones are complete ass without tenderizing
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>>747657894
the biggest crime / missed opportunity of the DS/3DS was never having an HD version with a better display
I get so sad when I load up DS games on a PC emulator and see what they easily could have looked like with slightly better hardware, and just know that potential was permanently locked away on the system.
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>>747657894
We were better than you. Or we emulated it in HD, either or.
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>>747657894
got gud.
t. soloed all 3u quests
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>>747646094
anon they announced wilds coming to switch 2, portable is literally confirmed.
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>>747658103
>>747658231
>>747658323
Sheeeeeiiiittttt how the fuck do I control 3U’s camera better? I have a new 3ds with the extra shoulder buttons and c-stick but it doesn’t help. I’m going to be laid up for 2 weeks after a kidney stone removal soon and I need something to keep my mind occupied.
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>>747658570
Claw up
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>>747658570
cut out the rubber C stick nub and replace it with a psp 1000 stick or thinkpad nub
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>>747642767
Beru is utter dogshit. Dora is great
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MH should go more sci fi like God Eater
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>>747655695
They're likely getting some sort of subspecies or guardian related mutation since they showcased the god eater parasite mon coming out of guardian dosha.
Hard to say whether they'll create true subspecies like a water themed nu udra or something, the designs hardly lend themselves to that sort of stuff, Rey Dau in particular is so fundamentally designed around lightning they can't get away with the usual patterns/recolors if they want a different elemental subspecies for him.
On the other hand they might also want to try because elemental weapons will get a lot of overlap with elders coming into play and some other returning monsters.
Lightning for instance already has
>Rey Dau
>Lagiacrus
>Guardian Fulgur Anjanath
And Ascendance will add Khezu and Gundoraja to this, if Rajang will be added to the rest of the monkeys then Kirin is guaranteed especially since it's the only existing Elder that could fit in the Cliffs, that's a whole lot of overlap in lightning weapon trees.
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>>747658570
buy a steam deck and emulate it
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>>747661097
>slop shitter
dead franchise (good)
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>>747657045
Isn't the farm in FU completely broken and removes the item grind entirely
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>>747653004
>silkbinds(gives almost every weapon a form of parry & super armor)
Take this in the context of Rise having the weakest roll iframes in the series and insane Evade Extender and it makes more sense. They just moved them to weapon-specific actions and/or armorskill investment. I can sympathize if that didn't click with you, and it's good that Sunbreak's new armorskills and scroll evades reintroduced what was lost in translation.

>clutch claw et al are optional and you can just not use them
>it's just busywork
Taking ownership over your own experience is good advice in a void, but whether the player is capable of doing so is separable from their criticisms of the health of the sandbox itself, and insubstantial busywork is the worst place for any generic gimmick to end up. "Trading an opening" for a tenderize is awful for the flow of the game, especially with claggers, and it's a design failure for effective play and interesting play to be at odds with each other.

>hunter arts and the like, which added ZERO difficulty and instead REDUCED difficulty
I've spiritually failed a quest if I bumbled through it making mistakes left and right, and so it doesn't matter if the barrier to clearing a quest is lower. Arts are another tool in the box to use as effectively or as creatively as possible. They pose a problem when they overtake normal play or (much like resource-intensive weapons already play) reduce weapons to flowcharts, and are otherwise beneficial when they do not. So long as there's room for mastery, I'm satisfied.
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>>747662871
Iceborne's best fights like Velk had natural openings for grapples built into the attacks.
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>>747657045
>doing the farm humiliation after every hunt
Farm was soulful, much better than the shitty trading screens it was replaced with
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>>747657753
What weapons have you been playing in Rise?
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>>747644201
love me anja but jho is cooler
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>>747646094
ass dance, obviously. hopefully it will make milds actually worth playing the way IB did for world.
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>>747662404
im pretty sure that anon is talking about monster mats, not ore/bugs and honey
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>>747647274
b-but you're not allowed to like anything about this game
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>>747633331
Safi Jiva is the only fight that actually requires the claw and I'm sure some autist has done it without it with explosive ammo or something
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>>747646094
hope and pray for a collection to be announced at tokyo game show
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>>747635178
>Not only did they nerf weakness exploit,
Weakness exploit should be nerfed and crit boost should be removed
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>>747665921
This but rise
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>>747649607
I would imagine they think vanilla is the best ice cream flavor
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>>747663156
I fucking love this retard
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>>747649663
I've only 4u, gu and world so far but GU is head and shoulders the best of the 3. World is great too but giving you unlimited item box/eating during quest was a step too far and makes surviving feel almost trivial. I also ignored all the style faggotry and cleared everything through ahtal ka solo guild hammer.
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>>747650381
Hammer and Great sword are the only weapons that check every box
>not gay
>no lame gimmicks
>no weapon management besides sharpness
>not cheap, have to actually interact with monster's moveset
>more fun than other weapons because hits are earned and bonks are big
and out of the two hammer is simply more fun than GS for the increased mobility+having more than one move

the gayest weapons are obviously the ranged, IG, dual blades, and the dumbest are switch axe and charge blade
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>>747632873
my nigga Gravios
love this armored bastard
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>>747653004
>Clagger
This nigga had none of that shit and he ended up being the one thing preventing me from uninstalling World.
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>>747632873
>favorite monster
Tiggy
>favorite fight
Zinogre
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>>747663156
Is this Frontier? Jesus christ he's a nuke?
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>>747658570
I didnt bother with the shitty second stick and just used the lock on button that automatically centers camera on monster. way easier and all you need.
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>>747668148
>Ziggy
my man
Stiggy Ziggy was great too.
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>>747653953
Even Tri with the 13 monsters had a better roster than World
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>>747668197
It's a joke quest
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OP here, just wanted to say thank you guys for keeping this thread alive and giving me a good distraction. Time to humiliation ritual at work and then get back to the monsties.
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Teostra had some cool music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y-Nn_f2dX4
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>>747668707
I miss the heavier drums from most versions of it before World
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For me? It's Valstrax
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>>747632873
Molten Tigrex, the excello armour looks amazing and I love the fight. Plus the idea of this giant tigrex just appearing on top of a tower blew my mind when I was younger. Second favourite is Akantor.
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>>747658608
>claw up
>get finger stone
>operation again
>thanks anon
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>>747662871
>Rise having the weakest roll iframes
I hear this a lot and i can never really think of it as a good enough defense for the crazy amount of hyper armor/counters they slapped in in that game. Plus, slotting in iframes have never been easier. It's just absurd.
>"Trading an opening" for a tenderize is awful for the flow of the game
A tenderized part lasts for like 180 seconds. That's a similar duration as a monster's enrage, or your power/armor seeds and dash juice.
I mean i get it if clagger breaks the flow by freezing the monster in place out of nowhere, there is no excusing that. But tenderizing is pretty much no different from stopping yourself from attacking in order to reapply buffs/sharpening to me.
It's not like it's the act of tenderizing that stops the monster in place.
>It doesn't matter if the barrier to clearing a quest is lower. So long as there's room for mastery, I'm satisfied.
To each their own.
I personally think that a challenge is something that should be introduced by the game creators for the players to overcome, not for the players to create for themselves.
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>>747670429
am I the only person who thinks handler is hotter than gemma. she's the good kind of brown
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>>747649663
p3rd, even though I only played it somewhat recently.
>gen 3 mechanics but no swimming bullshit is that goldilocks zone of jank to smoothness.
>built in the MHFU engine so it has those godlike gen 2 hit impacts and sound
>absolutely 0 eyerolling monsters on the roster(fuck u gen 3 raths are fun learn to dunk) also it has tigrex unlike 3U what the FUCK were they thinking with that one
>no gacha cats or charms or decorations
>doesn't have an endgame entirely about grinding the same 3 hyper deviant apex frenzy violent shin monsters until your eyes bleed
>doesn't make me do a bunch of bullshit gather/small monster quests or "fight this shitmon but now there's two of them lol" in order to advance my hunter rank
>two cats is more fun then 1 cat and being able to specialize them in various ways or give them combo moves is cool but unlike GU cats it's not a gigantic pain in the ass of leveling to get them something and they don't completely cheese fights for you
>the best farm in the whole series, easily
>food buffs are random to a degree but tell you up front what you're getting and health/stam gains are fixed based on sidequest progression so I dont need a fucking guide open to get good food and or just do random busywork farming coupons to get the food I want
>comfy village with a good layout where the house and the hub are directly connected

when the only consistent complaint people have about a game is "I wish it had more stuff to do (it's already a 200+ hour game)" yeah it's pretty good. there are monhun games with higher highs but frankly I think people forget how fucking bad a lot of G rank games are before you get to the good parts because they already did it or have extreme childhood nostalgia over it
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>>747666679
GS has better mobility then hammer because I can just sheathe and run circles around the monster before dropping a big hit
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>>747647274
wilds isn't a monhun game
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>>747632873
Nerscylla, I really like spiders
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>>747632873
>most fun to actually fight
zinogre, the only monster i've never gone "that's bullshit" while fighting
>coolest conceptually
tigrex being both the in story evoltionary ancestor to modern wyverns and also mechanically being this because literally all he does is charge, roar, spin and projectile like every monster in gen 1 - only now they're supercharged and he doesn't have some annoying ass gimmick
>most literally me
nergigante. big edgy armor nigga that just kind of facetanks and wins by healing/suckerpunching till he wins but is kind of a goofball and trips on his ass all the time when hit
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Base game
>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything
>No cat cooking
>Weather system serves no purpose other than to make the game worse
>Like 95% of set bonuses are useless
>The "endgame" consists of hunting the same apexes because, for whatever reason, Capcom refuses to make every monster 9star tempered
>9 star tempered monsters oneshot you and have more HP than Fatalis so G rank will feel like a cake walk
>The "reward" for killing 9stars is gacha talismans that give you skills (even though we already have too many skills)
>No HR final boss
>Artian system makes 99% of weapons in the game useless (lmao)
>Collaboration is not even a monster but some generic colorless robot
>You can use NPC hunters on monsters but them carting doesn't count so it's literally just cheating
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4 in base game
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?

G rank
>Created by the director of Exoprimal (game no one ever played)
>Gimmick that makes your weapon useless unless you use it
>Nothing about the game is fixed
>Overuse of Elder Dragons
It's over
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>>747671034
No, Gemma is a genuine uggo so Alma wins by default (both are extremely low tier by MonHun standards though)
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>>747673960
>Gemma is a genuine uggo so Alma wins by default
Both lose to Maki
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>>747670910
>crazy amount of armor/counters
Losing iframes on a basic dodge means all of them matter, and the nuance between them matters... ideally. If poorly balanced, then redundancies appear and the magic goes away. I think they did okay outside of GS.
>slotting iframes is easy
Come endgame yeah, it got pretty crazy. While progressing, it's a serious investment to go for iframes over more cost-effective Evade Extender or Redirection, let alone just stacking more damage.
>tenderizing is effectively just buffing
Correct, which I don't like because it's another thing to upkeep while also requiring you're next to the monster and not attacking them with real moves. It's 90s rather than 180s, and enormously more value than the small bump to raw that seed + powder give. It's also on a single hitzone for each tenderize, making it a chore for weapons that would traditionally want to hit the monster wherever is convenient while repositioning, and light weapons needed two tenderizes before the Shaver deco got handed out. Big pain in the ass on IG since it was liable to whiff hits of its tenderize attack.

Cramps going for full breaks which I'm partial to, but endgame is about hitting the monster in its best hitzone anyway and none of the big grinds have weird break goals either.

Some weapons are graced with good clutch attacks like Lance or Hammer so it doesn't matter as much, but I really felt it on other weapons. Gunlance didn't give a shit in general and was my go-to for trash fights like Lunastra; Wyrmstake felt correct as a part of the weapon.

>A challenge should be introduced by the creators, not for the players to create for themselves
Ideally both, but if it had to be one or the other I'll take the latter since that exceeds the initial goal. That, and much of Capcom's idea of "difficulty" is artificial by cranking numbers, AoE vomit, constant room-to-room jumping, or dumb shit like AT Nergi quickslam or MHWI Rajang ignoring topples when close to walls.
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>>747632873
I like Shrouded Nerscylla because I'm a complete sucker for giant spiders and the upgraded moveset over base Nerscylla in 4U is really fuckin cool.
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>>747675581
>re: difficulty
In principle I think targeting for an intrinsically appealing combat system gives more staying power than just making the game ballbusting, but Wilds is an example of the initial game being so absurdly easy that I ended up having a better time in the demo against the stupid short timer bloated-stats Arkveld than anything the main game had to offer, so there's admittedly a limit before the bottom falls out and takes all the substance with it. Matter of priorities rather than one or the other, in any case.

Valfalk is best monster.
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>>747675764
Nerscylla's gear looks and sounds so fucking good across the board too; rocked the CB in 4U
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>>747677590
Hell yeah brother, plus that sweet white sharpness and sleep.
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>>747673960
>both are extremely low tier by MonHun standards though
That's World and Iceborne, the bitches were so ugly that people prefer to lewd the fat cat instead lmfao
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>>747679842
Serious Handler was hotter than either of the main girls in Wilds
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>>747671034
No Alma is objectively more attractive. Gemma gets by on white girl status when she has fetal alcohol syndrome.
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>>747680048
G-rank Truke
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>>747679842
>Appeal to westerns
>Japanese don't draw your characters
What a surprise
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Anyone here collects these?
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>>747680946
No my only MH physical stuff is a c-bag, A revoltech Azure Kirin huntress and a Nendo hunter
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>>747680048
She's not. Alma absolutely mogs Serious Handler.
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>>747681145
Alma is even uglier than World's handler, the only thing she's mogging is Congalala and even that is hard competition
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>>747681232
Look man I hated Wilds too but there's no reason to lie yourself. Even if you don't think Alma is pretty she is far prettier than World or Wilds' characters

They all get mogged by Fish Aficionado in Astera anyway
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>>747681232
You must be retarded and terminally contrarian to genuinely think that
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>>747682653
>nooo how dare you not like my rat-faced uggo, you must be le contrarian



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