Why does Blizzard refuse to give us Ogres? Are they fatphonic?
>>747634541They look cringeLiterally thats it
>>747634605You're cringe and I hate you.
>>747634541Three reason>They bitch about door sizesThey bitch they'd be too big to enter door so they need to reexamine doorways or have them clip through everything>There is no female ogre modelthey'd have to actually do work and make a female ogre model, sky elves are literally just the TBC blood elf model dyed blue.>They're lazy fuckers
>>747634541>>747634636Because they're not retards and know that the people that bitch about ugly race representation never actually play them. They just bitch for devs to waste resources so the players can feel satisfied for having something worthless in.>"FUCK ELVES, GIVE US UGLY FAT ASS OGRES!!"Meanwhile they are by far the most played and any ogre like races are like 1%. So no, no ogres. You retard.
>>747634541The billion dollar company under trillion dollar microsoft just doesn't have the budget or the manpower to do it, just not possible
>>747634541You think the devs are gonna make a race that looks like them
>>747634541Should they have a second gear slot for the head?
>>747634808>you HAVE to subvert the original to appease soulless bugmen and npc retardsOrcs(with ogres and trolls) vs Humans, not elves vs elves.
>>747634712>They bitch they'd be too big to enter door so they need to reexamine doorways or have them clip through everythingI never understood why this is a problem, lorewise ogres are not much bigger than a tauren. In diremaul their proportions are not their actual size
>>747634935Replace bugmen with trannies and keep NPC, and that's literally what your camp is.
Chinese won't play as ogres
>>747635083Chinese should be forced to play as Hivers from Kenshi.
no ogres, no gnolls, no murlocs, no naga
thank god monsters and memories launches soon. i can be a fat ugly bastard
>>747634954It's been years since I played classic but I used to play a Tauren.I only recall 1 door I simply could not enter do to size in bootybay.I would got stuck all the time mounted on my kodo though, places like UC really fucking annoying to navigate. Dismount and remounting just to get into elevators.It's probably becasue they're lazy and selling someone reskinned TBC elves for $30 is easier than designing high elves + ogres.
>>747634808Or the people who play elves are not the same people who want orges. I'm not sure why you would ever think those are the same group of people besides being retarded. Are you retarded?
>>747635442Yes I'm sure you will definitely play the fat ugly bastard race as your main unironically. You and the 5 others.
>>747634541>Bro they should have added ogres and goblins to the horde thats all us old fags have ever wanted why wont they give them to us bros!Today I will remind them. If they released Ogres in retail or forever they would be sub 2% population race within a few months
>>747635645Actually more like 5% due to choices
>>747635442>not the same people who want orgesYou're right. There are dozens of you. 50 even! Don't let the others shut you down with logic, you keep banging that drum begging for race nobody will play
>>747634541Because making a race takes actual work and blizzard hates actually working from the ground up. If anyone ever tells you its because they're ugly and no one would play them then by that logic Orcs, Tauren, Trolls, Forsaken, and Goblins wouldnt be playable either.
>>747634541The amount of hairy fat ass rimming by bimbos porn born out of this would be too much for the internet to handle.
>>747634541You will instead get two headed blood elves $52
fuck ogres i wanted playable arakkoa
>>747634541baraniggers deserve to suffer
>>747635908Wrong because Orc is the 4th most popular race in the game in retail
>>747635908Orcs and Taurens are both in the top five most played races.
>>747634541Not having a neutral "beastfolk" option in modern WoW is such a fucking joke. Just add armor models for the various neutral factions we've met, give them mostly global passives with maybe 1 unique passive per race and slap them in.Worgen, Arrakoa, Murlocs, Naga, Furbolgs, Quillboars, Tuskarr, Ogres, Klaxxi, those fish people... the models and animations are all there, they'd just need to model the armor.
>>747635908It took them until Cataclysm to add goblins despite existing and being part of the horde since the get go and even to this day they are 2% of the playerbase, so the assumption would be correct.>but the rest!Orcs are an iconic race of the setting.Barely anyone plays trolls or Tauren, actually.Everyone likes playing undead.The idea is nonetheless they have to be cool OR hot.Ogres are retarded and ugly, while also taking too much space and making the player feel sluggish. Therefore nobody would play them, just like nobody ever, ever, EVER touches Kul'Tiran.
>>7476367304th for Orc, 7th for Tauren.Notably there are still 4 times more people playing blood elves than Tauren, 12+ times more people playing elves as a blanket race if it includes variants.
>>747636741They added Worgen in retail over a decade ago and they arent popular at all.People thought they wanted cool werewolves but then realised they didn't like not being pretty during combat
>>747634712>They bitch they'd be too big to enter door so they need to reexamine doorways or have them clip through everythingThey could just make them smaller, like they did for Taurens.And like some ogres already are in WoW.
>>747637201Great so now they aren't just ugly and retarded, they also look like cucks compared to the rest of their race losing their only saving grace which was being imposing. That'll make for a popular choice.
>>747636886If you combined the racial derivatives into one group, it becomes pretty clear what players prefer to play as:Elf:38% (20.3% High Elf - 17.7% Night elf)Human: 13% (Overwhelming base human, 1.7% worgen - 0.8% kul'tiran)Dwarf: 8.7%Orc: 8.2%Troll: 5.7%Tauren: 5.5%Dracthyr: 4.7%Draenei: 4.3%Undead: 3% (Some of the undead population likely have their numbers stolen by elves using undead elf skin tones and cosmetic features)Pandaren: 2.5%Gnome: 2.1%Vulpera: 1.6%Goblin: 1.4%Special mentions: Haranir 2.8% because I dont know where the fuck I'd place these ugly cave dwellers, with trolls or elves or in their own spotYou can see people far prefer to play pretty or tough human derivatives over beast folk and people prefer strong over skinny, and slim over fat.
>>747635645Nobody gives a fuck about your fantasy situations, they added diaper gnomes and furries, your argument is invalid
>>747637201>>747637287Really they should be moknathal with some more brutish taller muscular counter parts to make them look unique.Or just do the giga body builder forest trolls or goblins. and just give the alliance high elves. blizzard are just weird as fuck
>>747634541they're too big
>>747636889I blame the fact it was a stupidly thought-out situation. They should have had a toggle where you could put away your weapon and use normal worgen fighting animations with claws and bites while retaining the stats (which would have been exceedingly easy to do), instead of making all their retarded animations holding weapons that barely make any sense with their enormous hands/claws.
>>747637382>they added diaper gnomes and furries,And everyone hates them and nobody plays them. Your point?
>>747637287They could also just make doors bigger or god forbid, actually make their size have an effect on gameplay choices. Your resistance to good ideas prove you're a shill, as they have added way more retarded races than this already. Off yourself.
>>747637374You say "people' but these are retail players, who are not people at all.
>>747637426That if they can add something that nobody wants and nobody plays they can sure as hell add something that everyone does actually want, since whether or not anyone actually plays them has never in history actually affected their decision to add them. You imbecile gook.
>>747637468Your autism proves to me you are retarded and also the reason why companies never listen to anything. If anything you must be a shill created to spill stupid shit everywhere so they can use you as an example of why they shouldn't listen to people.
>>747634541Because the reality is people screeching for Ogres are an extreme minority and painting Blood Elves blue is probably going to make them a lot of money, sadly.
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>>747635645>>747637426>less than 2% would play ogres, they shouldn't add them>less than 2% also play these other races that exist>Your point?Genuinely how can one be so stupid
>>747637559Except nobody wants what you are asking for. And the furries and shitbots were just a glorified skin for already existing races.So again, your point is stupid.
>>747637619>Hurrr u dumGood one Chang really showing off that high Asian IQ. You sure you're not an ogre irl?
>>747637675None of the things you are discussing are actual races. They are reskins. So whatever you need as guidance for how can someone be stupid, check your logbook.
>>747637679>Except nobody wants what you are asking for.Nobody asked for diaper gnomes either
>>747637685>No uUh-huh. Points for trying.
>>747635271dead within a year when the novelty of hour long corpse runs, xp loss, and losing gear when you cant recover your shit wears off
>>747637740>>747637716
>>747635271thanks for shilling this in WoW threadslooks kind of neat, though I'm not sure I can make time for it, but it's been nice to look at
>>747637675Never underestimate a blizzdrone when it comes to mental impairment
>>747637397Worgen should have been a hero class not a race. Have it be exclusive to humans and blood elves. Would have been insane for the population metrics but would have let us explore gilneas and capture the fantasy of playing as a werewolf FAR better than >Werewolf hunter>Werewolf priestAs you said, if you play as a werewolf you should be able to fight with claws and bites and enrage/transformation mechanics, not just have it be an aesthetic option for warriors and mages etc.
>>747637751Incorrect, I called you a Ching Chong. Learn to read.
>>747635271Good lord what an abherrant looking piece of shovelware, and we are in a WoW thread so the bar is not high
>>747637374Interesting I fed these info into chatgpt and asked what race blizz should make next for retail and the answer made me laugh. Its so obvious its shocking that blizz keeps making elves and weird offshoots nobody wants to play>>747637740>NOBODY WANTED DIAPERGNOMES AND ROCKDWARVES>SO JUST MAKE ANOTHER RACE NOBODY WANTS TO PLAYEarthshattering logic
>>747637894>worgen prestige class>you lose one talent tree and get the worgen feral tree instead
>>747637791You ESL? That's not an argument.
>>747637675>>747637859So you're saying adding diapergnomes and vulpera was not, in fact, a mistake, and blizzard should continue to make more mistakes and spend dev resources on making cucked ogres so people can, once again, not play them? Thats the logical path you're following?They were retarded before they can be retarded again? I thought the point was blizz making good decisions
>>747637957>>SO JUST MAKE ANOTHER RACE NOBODY WANTS TO PLAYWhy not? They keep doing it anyway.And obviously people do want it, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it.
>>747637984theres been an army of jeets defending blizzard wish the black death upon their mother and watch them recoilits the single worst insult to them
>>747637984Are you? Or is it just innate stupidity tied to whatever sort of whiny baby antic you have going on?
>>747637957
>>747638021>Thats the logical path you're following?It's the logical path that Blizzard themselves follow. Why are you arguing for things on their behalf that they don't even believe?
>>747636889Worgen are cool, or at least were cool. Disney/furryfication into le heckin' pupperinos ruined them for me. The female worgen models are so bad. Blizzard can't help but make everything lame and gay.
>>747638063Them being allied races has nothing to do with this argument, and goblins/vulpera aren't allied races anyway.
>>747638026>And obviously people do want it, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about it.People talk about a lot of things, very loudly in fact. So I assume you have no problem with things like them removing mean lore jokes or introducing gaytranscripple dragons since a vocal group of people constantly talked about wanting those?
>>747634541Uhm... something new skeletons and too big.. they don't have the resources... uhm... nobody cares about ogres anyway!
>>747638190All of those are correct.
>>747638143But they did do that because a bunch of people talked about wanting that. Whether it's right or wrong doesn't matter.
>>747638021You're arguing that you shouldn't add something, because not that many people would play it.They already add things that not that many people play, so it's not a barrier of entry for them to add something, which negates your argument.>So you're saying adding diapergnomes and vulpera was not, in fact, a mistakeQuality of said thing is a separate argument entirely, but you did not argue why ogres are bad, you argued that ogres would be unpopular.
>>747638206Fuck off and die Ion you're a plague on this earth
For some reason at some point blizzard decided the only new races they will ever add to their games are some variation of an elf or reskins of dwarves but the girls can have beards, seriously they have put zero effort into a new race in I don’t know how long, when was the last time a new race came out with a completely unique animation set and skeleton? pandaren? it’s been like 15 years
>>747638078Because blizzard is capable of change and they're demonstrating that live. In a few years we've gone from>You think you want it but you don'tTo>Classic releases, then classic+ becomes a new evergreen productA lot of the changes in Forever seem to be specifically targeted at>You guys didnt like when we changed this in retoilet, so we're making sure we don't do this in foreverBig ones like LFG tool etc.
>>747638072>Not another elf. Not another furry race. Not another variation of an existing core race.this tells me you influenced the answer with your prompt. you probably asked "what race should blizzard add to world of warcraft? a cool race or another fucking elf or another furryshit race?"AI will say whatever it has to to satisfy you, dumbass
>>747636889Shit, I meant Wolvar. But OG Worgen are much cooler than the new soft looking ones.
>>747638601>Because blizzard is capable of change and they're demonstrating that live.>>You guys didnt like when we changed this in retoilet, so we're making sure we don't do this in foreverOh ok so because they belatedly gave in to pressure with Classic that means now they've done a 180 on putting retarded races into the game?What about the blue elves then?
>>747636647And they are ugly as shit as well.The same people who play orcs,tauren, trolls would likely also play ogres. It's the monster appeal and that fanbase covers a wide margin.
>>747638297I've never said blizz couldn't or wouldn't ever add ogresI'm saying they shouldn't because it would be a waste of dev time. Logically why would they waste time on something that a small fraction of the playerbase would touch? They already learnt that lesson with the ridiculous amount of time and effort they spent on kul'tiran humans (New kingdom, starting experience, new models, new animations, new voice work, culture and art aesthetics, art assets, effects etc.) only to be met with less than 1 in every 100 players wanting to use them. It took a lot of resources out of the expanions development and the expansion got a lot of hate partly because of the content drought it caused.New races take a lot of work from the devs comparatively and end up being a couple zones and a city nobody uses, as opposed to proper expansion feature hook content like raids and new classes etc.The only time this resource investment pays off is if the race is very popular.
>>747638601>You guys didnt like when we changed this in retoilet, so we're making sure we don't do this in foreverlollmao
>>747638843>I'm saying they shouldn't because it would be a waste of dev time.Ah yes, dev time, totally what we the consumer should care about. Very organic, not a shill at all.
>>747638608Retarded? Feel free to type these exact prompts into chatgpt and see what you get anon. I'm sure you'll be shocked
>me and the boys all rolling Ogres and going fist weapons with the ogre reputation boxing gloves that are good for warriors, shaman, ogre-mages and runemasters
>>747636801Doesn't matter if they're classic or "loved" the fact is the horde races outside the elves are ugly as shit so this whole concieved notion that another monster race wouldnt be liked seems redundent when over half the horde are ugly retarded monsters. Yes, the population of people who like pretty races will always surpass the ones that like monsterous and ugly but if you dont want them then you may aswell play another mmo like ff where everyone is pretty.
>>747638843>Logically why would they waste time on something that a small fraction of the playerbase would touch?Hey fucking moron, maybe you should take a time machine and go back and tell Blizzard to never make Overwatch? After all the playerbase wasn't playing Overwatch before they made it, so why should they waste time developing something that 0% of the playerbase touches? While you're there take a class in critical thinking
>>747638843>I've never said blizz couldn't or wouldn't ever add ogresYeah that's why I opened with "You're arguing why they shouldn't"
>>747638737>What about the blue elves then?>Why are they adding the blue blood elves aka the most popular race in the game? Are you saying added the most played race in the game is a retarded choice? The model that more than 1/5th of all wow players use but with some extra whispy cloud and blue cosmetic options, you're saying that is a bad choice for their new product? The model that more people use than any other in retail?
why don't just replace all the races with elves?
>>747634541Should've watched the dev panel. They teased Ogres at the very end.
>>747639150>Are you saying added the most played race in the gameBlue elves arent a playable race yet anon
>>747638870>You guys didn't like thisExcept people really did like blood elves. They still really like blood elves, to this day. And these are just blue blood elves.Don't make me tap the sign >>747637374
>>747638870i genuinely don't know what blizzard cultists expected. they're the same fucking people who are shitting the bed in retail, classic and sod, of course they're going to shit the bed again
>>747639162They should replace the entire game with an elf gacha, that would really please the Chinese shill
>>747639226>Except people really did like blood elves.That's not a blood elf.
>>747639189>>747639131>But how would you know it's shit, it isn't on my plate yet!Overwatch still have over 10 million monthly players anon.>But you wouldn't have known they would like it before they released itExcept we kinda can. Because we can see what was popular on release and what wasn't.Can you honestly tell me in good faith:If WoW forever launched with SKY elves (not even high elves) on alliance only, and Ogres on Horde only, that Ogres would get anywhere near the number of players the elves would?
>>747639258>play new and streamlined world of warcraft>select the only race option: Elf>select the only class option: Warrior>run a dungeon, whenever your hp drops to 30% an NPC heals you
>>747639341>Overwatch still have over 10 million monthly players anon.It had 0 monthly players before they made it. Are you stupid?>If WoW forever launched with SKY elves (not even high elves) on alliance only, and Ogres on Horde only, that Ogres would get anywhere near the number of players the elves would?Would sky elves get anywhere near the number of players the high elves would?
>>747639320You're right This is most certainly not just a blood elf with some extra customisation options
>>747634541>>747634541they have no idea how to add a new model rig for a player and all of their animations. dracthyr were a huge undertaking apparently and they're just a few races jury-rigged together apparently. this is a consistent problem that plagues all content. you'll never see a new enemy in a dungeon or raid, its always just a reskinned version of something you've seen a million times before. this is something that FF XIV beats the shit out of wow in consistently. especially for mounts that are always the same boring trash as always but are consistently unique in FFXIV
>>747639427yeah it's a sky elf, glad you're aware now, I know the chinese don't have quite the field of vision that other races do
>>747635645I'd play goblin if it didn't come with post cata retail diarrhea. actually I did that on turtle.
>>747639450just rig it to tauren and make it bigger.
>>747638843>I'm saying they shouldn't because it would be a waste of dev time.t. lazy useless troon dev that can't make ANYTHING worth looking at even after being given billions of dollars
>>747635645dont care. love me gobs. simple as
>>747638973Horde is gonna have so many good Runemaster options, while Alliance only has Night Elves and Dwarves.They need to add High Elves to alliance to balance out the runemasters.
>>747639404>It had 0 monthly players before they made it.Yes but they could be fairly certain a high budget tf2 clone in 2016 would be more popular than if they had spent resources making a paint drying watching simulator, and they were correct. They used what they knew about what people liked (TF2 being insane popular) and did it again. Which is exactly what Skyborne are.Ogres by comparison would be a bit of a gray area, they would fulfil a similar niche to Tauren and Troll of being humanlike, cool and strong, but different enough to be "savage" and significantly warcraft fantasy-esqueAs you can see from >>747637374 Those races tend to occupy niches of between 3-6% of the playerbase, which isn't bad at all really. But the problem is Ogres don't really have much of a popular cultural identity between>ME DUMB ME SMASH YOUAnd having two heads if they're a caster.Trolls had the jamaican voodoo theme, Tauran are native american giant minotaurs, undead are undead obviously. They all have established, popular iconic cultural identities that appeal to players. Would you be able to conjure up an entire racial identity from ogres popular enough to compete with tauren and trolls? I doubt it. Maybe I'd be wrong and I would actually like them to add Ogres in the future because I would play as one, but I just don't see a future where they would justify the investment.>Would sky elves get anywhere near the number of players the high elves wouldGood question, and I would say no they wouldn't.Personally if I was in their seat and I knew we needed a belf ripoff to tempt people into playing Forever, I would have gone the >High elves on alliance>Undead elves on hordeRoute. And I dont know why they didnt. But I can understand why they went with something like Skyborne over ogres and goblins
>>747639529tauren already consistently got stuck in doorways that needed to be fixed. no way theyre giving themselves that workload for a race no one wants to fuck
>>747638973ogre mage? no no no buddy you're getting an elf race. like elemental hunter (demon hunter but blue)
>>747635645this is why they should make the goblins sexier
>>747634541>knocks out the two elves instead of double dicking themhello?
People don't know, but as a treadmill running retailfag inside Ion's maze for over a decade I know for a fact that the entire Warcraft development team has lost the ability to make unique animations and rigs for player models back in SL, because the people with the expertise either quit or were fired as a result of the California lawsuit. It's one of their best kept secrets.It has gotten so bad they can't add new belts into the game that don't visibly float. Yes, that's right the aunts and troons over there can't even make a fucking flush belt anymore. Them announcing all this shit is just fucking hilarity to me. Infact i'm like 99% sure pservers have had better tools using their jerryrigged reverse engineered clients and modding tools for atleast 5 years. That's why you saw so much custom stuff getting churned out by Epoch and Turtle and Ascension. The retail devs actually have NONE of that anymore kekkity.
>>747635645If they didnt give goblins and many other races some of the worst racials in the game, they'd see more play
>>747634541I bet they feel repulsed by how much the ogres remind them of themselves and refuse to make more such creatures
>>747639713>Which is exactly what Skyborne are.Except not because people are just shitting on them non stop. You're extremely delusional.>As you can see from >>747637374 ThosI do not give a fuck about player demographics from retail, retail is a dead market and in no way indicative of potential audience demographics. The people who still play retail are insane freaks like you who gatekeep any meangingful and good change to the game because you ERP with second-life tier elf models in Goldshire.Just because YOU can't imagine who would play an ogre doesn't mean they can't be popular, because you have objectively worse taste than the common man. This is demonstrated by your defense of this garbage cash grab "expac" and the shitty design choices therein, which will not be popular with any audience besides that already mazed by retail.>>High elves on alliance>Undead elves on horde>Route. And I dont know why they didnt.Because, like you, the people who still work on this game are mentally ill and completely tasteless, and they have no idea why anyone wanted classic+ in the first place.
>>747639947Even if they were capable, why bother when people are going to transmog it anyway.
>>747634541Because the modern blizzard troon/women demographic wouldn't like it. It's a fat, dumb, violent, strong character that targets the nerd tolkien/warhammer demographic, not women and transexuals.
>>747634541You can play Cho'gall in heroes of the storm
>>747634541>Are they fatphonic?no
>>747639636Based. Literally the only thing I miss after switching to Classic for good.
>>747640132I have the sneaking suspicion they outright just stole one of the Legion pserver clients and are just using modder tools now, because the retail client has gotten so bloated and fucked they can't add anything to it without causing a million bugs to it and are hoping this Warcraft Forever thing takes off as a "WoW 2." That ontop of the fact that the devs who could make custom animations for that client are long gone. The question of "why bother" is because they are in a complete and utter engine crisis at Blizzard and are desperate for a new platform.
>>747638843The difference is that kul'tirans were fucking retarded and ultimately just humans but fat. People have been asking for ogres since wow released.
>>747641334Even the Rexxar campaign with the stonemaul feels like they're soft launching ogres as a race for WoW like undead campaign with the Forsaken
>>747640375>>747639636I think if they want to continue this evergreen "horizontal progression", stay in azeroth vibe for WoW forever, they really should be looking at adding all the classic warcraft races like Gobbos, Ogres, Furbolgs, Naga maybe eventually
>>747641429*half ogres
>>747640267Ozempic killed this
>>747642025No the stonemaul ogres that you interact with in the Rexxar campaign are full on ogres.I know Rexxar is a half ogre, but there are more characters in the Rexxar campaign than just Rexxar.You can see the Stonemaul Village(ruined) in Dustwallow Marsh in vanilla world of warcraft, they relocated to Brackenwall Village which has a flight point.
>>747635271it seems like it has race locked classes? that's fucking dumb if true
>>747642415Wow should have that too
>>747642512Is the new OSRS-thing fully doing away with that or is it just a few exceptions like undead Paladins?
>>747634808>You can't make this thing because only a minority will play it. It not being played also has 0 consequence on anythingI swear this board is just economist uni dropout retards. Like you retards are incapable of thinking in any terms other than green arrow go up.
>>747635340>I would got stuck all the time mounted on my kodo thoughthankfully that was a non-issue for pretty much every other mount. Frostwolf Howler was a much smoother ride and could go in doors. Raptors were still too tall and would get stuck though.
>>747642286thats great but it would still only be half-ogre. youre never getting ogre
I fucking hated the huge faggot and hamplanets in Micro-ActiBlizz.Motherfuckers are truly a disappointment.These faggots added a LITERAL WHO fox midge they pulled out of their gaping asses for the Horde of all factions, when the Gnolls existed in lore.Then the Faggots here has the gall to defend the Transexuals in Micro-Actiblizz that Ogres wont be popular, just got to add Diaper gnomes and Literal who Fox midgets and all the 'insert element/words/shekels' elves here. Fucking hate Blizzard. I cannot believe I wished to work at Blizzard when I was a kid. What a fucking disgrace of a nepo-baby filled fucking blackhole of a cesspool company. I wish someone torch their Headquarters and they all fucking die motherfuckers.
>>747642415druid should be night elf onlyshaman should be orc only
>>747642721It's especially crazy too, since just because a person doesn't personally play a race, doesn't mean they don't get enjoyment out of seeing others as that race.Inversely it's also why "just don't play that race", doesn't work as an argument against the addition of some races.People like seeing ogres and taurens in vanilla wow, but they don't like seeing vulperas.
>>747636889I mean, the game was like 6 years old when Worgen released wasn't it? most people had already picked their favorite race by that time. Goblins were majorly requested and ended up with a tiny population too, without a new class to encourage people to reroll into the new race like panda's got with monk nobody is gonna rush to abandon their characters they've spent literal years of gametime on.
>>747634808>"FUCK ELVES, GIVE US UGLY FAT ASS OGRES!!"
>>747637385I really don’t like the idea of playable goblins in classic cause they’re supposed to be the neutral jews who are just profiting off the conflict. Moknathal, forest trolls and ogres would all be great though. I can’t think of anything good for alliance other than broken draenei. High elves would have been good but now that they added skyborne that creates complications. You can make a skyborne with normal white skin tones so they’ll look very similar to high elves, if they add high elves you won’t be able to tell the two races apart in some instances. The fact that skyborne can be on horde makes this even worse.
>>747642910>World of Warcraft: Kinoever>each race get more unique classes than shared classes
>>747634541Because after wow forever gets boring after a few monts, next blizzcon they can announce them and make you coom back all over again. Although I'm more of an naga enjoyer myself.
>>747634808100% the problem with modern WoW is that theyve catered to the elf ERPers for too long. that doesnt just mean we get nothing but fucking elves for new races but permeates every design decision they make in order to make sparkle faggots happy (except raids which are only made for like 2-3 raid guilds and everyone else can go fuck themselves)
>>747642721It costs a raid tier, retardbro.
>>747643069Yeah, except goblins were part of the Horde since WC2. You forget that goblins are a singular faction; some are neutral, some are Horde, some are against everybody, etc.
>>747642951Forever has a legacy progression system that actually encourages alts
>>747643186>goblins are a singular factionaren't*
>>747634541Same with Naga (after the Diaper Gnomes they have absolutely no excuses here) and Draconoid.
>>747643069Wildhammer, High Elves are the big ones in that era I think.Furbolgs are too primitive imo.You could do subraces like Stromgarde humans, Dalaran Humans, Kul Tirans(but they don't need to be fat like retail), but that's not really the same thing, and you run into the same issues as why they refuse high elves.>if they add high elves you won’t be able to tell the two races apart in some instances. Ion plans ahead.
>>747643281how would naga ride any mount? lmao. think nigger, THINK
>>747643120To be really honest, I will not sub anymore after this travesty. They already blew their last chance specially after they nuked T-wow who already has plans to add Ogres for Horde and Fulborg for Alliance. My hatred for this company is way too much and all I can hope is they get bankrupt and their precious company got dismantled by Microsoft.
>>747642673Still race locks. They're letting both factions have a Shaman and Paladin now like they did with TBC but you need to play as a Dwarf/Undead
>>747643216how does that work? get bonuses on your bear form's armor rating for each druid you've hit max level with?
>>747643345>ridethey wouldn't>slug mode : increases speed while out of combat by X amountseems you are the one without the brain
>>747642415Warrior is locked to male only for every race, apart from night elf, where warrior and hunter are female exclusive (druid is male only)Only night elves can be druids, only orcs can be shamans, only humans (and sure a concession) undead can be paladinsOnly orcs can be warlocksActually just give every race its own unique class, shit like spirit walker for tauren, witch doctor for troll, engineer for gnome etc
>>747643345Coiled around a horse
>>747643443theyd never make a race that doesnt ride mounts. are you fucking retarded? mounts are the only way they still make money
>>747643180What did the retarded parsetranny mean by this?
>>747643345remeber that webM of superbikeman? They'd just lay down on the mount and go fast
>>747643345By coiling around them stupid. Not to mention having specialized saddles where they would coil on them.Also they'd definitively get a landshark mount.So you are the one without imagination. DOLT.
>>747643345slither for mount, same as worgen running on all fours
>>747643462>horsesamazing. thats one down
>>747635271this looks great. not sure about paying that kind of sub fee for a clearly low-budget game but i'll keep an eye on it
>>747643594are all of these in classic as well, m'tranny?
>>747634541Because NOBODY PLAYS THEM, you retard. Look at Goblins. People screeched about adding them for 10+ years. So they did. The result? A bit above 1% of all people play them. The same with Worgen. Or Pandaren. Or Vulpines. Or any other non-elven race.Meanwhile around 50% of ALL PLAYERS choose some form of Elves. So that's what you'll be getting until the end of time, various flavours of elves. People that's what people want.
>>747643594>retoilet nonsense KEK
>>747643705who the fuck knows? we're already getting models from the latest expansions so theres no reason to think most of them won't end up in the game. they're sure as hell not going to limit the types of mounts they introduce for a single HYPOTHETICAL race
>>747643787You're right, we shouldn't overburden the billion dollar video game company, under the wing of trillion dollar microsoft. They do not have the budget nor manpower for this.
>>747643594>oh yeah, you're gonna make the model fit around a horse>bet you can't do it for any other bipedal animals!It's not like every race in even vanilla wow can use every mount anyway
>>747643345Easy, give them a spell that turns them into a mount
>>747643987a mistake they fixed pretty quickly when they realized they could sell them
>>747643628It looks cool, I'll probably give it a shot whenever it fully releasesit just seems like it's heavily entrenched in old school annoying shit? I do want games to incentivize interactions between players and for classes to offer fun or unique services to each otherbut damn I also don't want to track down a wizard or whatever can buff me, teleport me, smack my ass, and repair my gear
>>747644076>Ale or Mead?
>>747643764>half the playable races are elvesGee, it's really surprising there's a lot of elf players.
>>747643764That's retail stats, monkey, classic is horde dominant with no elf variant against night elf
>>747634541>Take down a really fun private server that flew too close to the sun>Attempt to sell the exact same thing, but worse, and they can't help but being jewish about itBlizzard truly are niggers. I hope they go bankrupt.
>>747643764With Pandaren it was the other way around, I remember the "kill pandaren" polls.
>>747643628>damn, looks pretty cool, i like that the graphics are old and stylised, prolly runs on a potato too>requirements: minimum 16 gigs of ram and a modern processor, only gpu doesn't matterThis tells me everything, it's an incompetent unity asset flip.
>>747644857>Blood Elves>Void ElvesFor High Elves>Nightborne>Night ElvesFor Night ElvesThat's not a lot. Each mainline race got one sub-race, as well.
>>747645105>>747645217Sorry, I was wrong. Trolls got TWO sub-races.
What about female ogres?
>>747637385Actually a good idea and what I wanted since the warcraft 3 bonus campaign which was basically a super beta for wow
>>747645301just make them unplayable, retcon some shit how ogre females are mostly denmothers twice the size of males and almost completely feral
>>747645301Your mom will do
>>747645289All elves are troll sub-races.
WHEN SUPPER
>>747645301>>747645442...Or just add some. Like they did with Dwarves, Trolls, Tauren, Worgen, Pandaren...
>>747645301What about them? The ogre choices have been obvious forever. Instead of male and female, the options would be one-head and two-head.
>>747645442better just ignore it and make no lore statements based on sex and just keep female ogres locked, or no gender option at first
>>747645478I know, but we're talking strictly on a gameplay level.The fact of the matter is that Blizzard has repeatedly drowned money into making playable races that people on forums screeched after... and then nobody played. Goblins are the most blatant example - people STILL bitch and moan they aren't in Classic+ when we know for a fact nobody plays them.
>>747645301What about them?Oh right? Micro-ActiBlizz has small brains and is an active disappointment.
>>747645478I don't know when this idea was introduced but god damn what a scary thought that elves used to be trolls
>>747645736LONDON
>>747645532No.
i really want to play Forever but I only play with Vulperas
>>747645932I'm glad you're being excluded.
I never knew playing a goblin was so rare. I love my goblin character.
>more new races and classes impliedI WILL be an ogre necromancer one day.
>>747637374This is not a WOW thing btw, Elves are always more popular than round eared wall hitting NIngens
i just wanna play as arakkoa man....
>>747646156>pvecattle playing dress up in r*tail and tranny simulators are playing dressup, we need to shit up classic because the numbers show thisWhy is horde dominant in classic, despite the alliance having an elf faction then? Why are there more human than elf players too?
>>747634712>they'd be too big to enter doorGod forbid different races are actually different in my role playing game.
>>747646378no transmog means no faggots playing dressup. so racials > all
Literally don't care about blue elves, forever still looks fun to play. Stay mad pooriggers
>>747646489wow, so you mean to tell me when you don't focus primarily on dressup elements and collecting pets, which attracts grazing human cattle, the playerbase is different and displays different statistics?????? Huh??? But graph say elf 40%, this means it is universal???
>>747646156Thats not a good example, half elfs are the minmax race of bg3 they arnt picked because of looks
>>747646724Half Elves have the prettiest base faces, the bonuses for the bottom 3 races are good btw
>>747635645wow goblins look like shit tbqh. Ugly proportions and animations. And even despite that they have a niche community, albeit one surviving on delusions fueled by off model fanart entirely
>>747646867Does it matter? like 80% of these people didn't make it past act 1.
>>747634541I'm ready.I'm not ready!
>>747646948>Ugly proportions and animations.It is so by design as part of their physiognomy to depict them as amoral, conniving and chaotic you brain-amputated coomer tranny.
>>747643486nobody cares about mounts in classic. Mountsmogscheevos is a retoilet thing
>>747647090>its shit on purpose chudsuit yourself blizzsis. I personally like short races and think they can have an appeal beyond being shortstack goonbait. But somehow thats the only kind of people playing them anyway
>kidnapping homeless women and breeding them with fliesHorrifying even for RE standards
>>747647529It's not shit, they look and especially sound cool as fuck. You are just a fagtarded, tasteless retard or just baiting me.
>>747643345how about naga elves that act like worgen but swap between a blood elf reskin form and a naga form
>>747647689>they look and especially sound cool as fuckthey absolutely do not. You just fried your brain on off model fanart. Im sorry but its terminal
>>747634541Would be funny if they really couldn't go through doors but have a "crouch" racial ability that would reduce them to Tauren size.
>>747634541Hearthstone has so many ogres they became a meme. Coincidence?
>>747647836>this is like uncool or someshit, why is this small race not proportioned like vrykul man shit's weird Moron
>>747645736I'm already a female kul tiran enjoyer. If they were smart and added female ogres I'd play WoW forever forever
>>747647836I've been rushing fags with tinker pocket factory before you were shitting your diaper (which was in 2015). Blizzard, made the best fantasy goblin race.
>>747648040>immediately posts offmodel fanart to prove me wrong geeeegthis is what 99.99999% of goblin wow players look like being a wow player should be classified as a medical condition
>>747648253>the literal first fucking ingame loading screen of their zone is offmodel fanartYou are so brutally fucking retarded that it is hilarious. Average opinionated /v/edditor shitskin who hasn't even played the game he is retardedly arguing about.
>>747648407yeah because that art is not representative of the game, which is why nobody plays them. They look like goofy green gorillas with reddit cartoony exaggerated animations. Like I said, suit yourself
>>747648629Looks near identical to the latter ingame picture of this goblin you can't even name.>suit yourselfAt least you're aware of how much of a brain-dead retard you sound like and are retreating.
What are talents like now for Forever?Honestly, they should have just removed them.
>>747634541ogres are all but guaranteed. they have to sort out animations and armor rigging which takes time, a long time for these retard devs. the more important battle right now is the high elf. if blizzard can't be bullied into doing the least effort required to make high elf a defined race, they won't be pushed into doing anything else.
>>747648930>exact same blood elf model painted blue bad>exact same blood elf model but with blue eyes goodyou faggots chose the worst, most random hill to die on
>>747638843That's completely retarded. A new race should complement the existing game, not usurp it. Blue elves are going to be the largest player group in both the alliance, and horde, and are both factions. It fundamentally changes, and usurps the games existing races. They should have added in races that supplement like Ogres, Goblins, Furbolg, Naga.
Night Elf kings will never STOP winning.
>>747648930I hope so. In fact I remember some story about Ogres were considered to be a race on release but they didn't have time to finish them which is why they are missing a female version. Also they are playable on certain private servers (which aren't out yet)
>>747635645>no one wants goblins or ogresENTER
>>747649032that's the point.. if the community is very vocal about wanting something specific which exists in the game already and the devs refuse to do it, how do you expect them to listen to anything else that would actually require work?
>>747649152I have elf fatigue
>>747649306Nigga they haven't listened to anyone other than the marketing department for some 15 years. Of course they're not going to listen and making them do 1 concession through incessant, unending bitching does nto mean they'll listen in the future either
I dont play WOW but I love seeing people seethe at the superiority of my favorite fantasy race (and everyone's favorite for that matter minus the bitter contrarians on /v/ kek)
>>747642415Race-locked classes are soul."Any race can be any class" is soulless.
>>747646618It also means that the players you consider non-grazing human cattle aren't numerous enough to justify catering to. It's either that or sunsetting your classic servers because that's the only way they can downsize from having one room of people handling everything.
>>747650056>aren't numerous enoughClassic eclipsed retail like 20:1 in playercount, it was the reason wow got a revival in the first place. Said demographic also moves and on tends to not whale out, especially because there was nothing to whale out on in the first place.
>>747640267always makes me kek how the character in question has like visible abs and huge biceps.
>>747649545Tourist opinion
>>747650770Gay Retard comment
>>747650527>Source? My ass.
