Nothing comes close to it.
Randy's greasy fingers ruined it with dlc spam
>>747638834I loved all the DLCs so farI just wish there were more roguelites like this, Im bored, and I already finished GFR too
>>747638681It looks like shit and plays like shit. The first one was infinitely better.
>>747639236Take it back
>>747639236the first one was shit toozoomer games made for flash portals or tablets
>>747638681>>747639236This, played the first one before playing RoR2 and the RoR1 is way better, i played 2 a few times but it got boring too fast because there's little to no map changing so every run feels the same.Also this dlc spam fucing sucks.
>>747638681>Graphicsunimpressive>DLCboring>Gameplayliterally roguelike but with a torch under your ass to force you to speedrunIt's not that amazing, but I will give it points for enemy variety, movement methods, mods and the soundtrackAs far as solo braindead arcade experiences go, I'd say it's like a 8/10,for multiplayer, probably 7It's still worse to me than games like Deep Rock Galactic, Helldivers 2 or even Killing Floor 2, but that's subjective and they're not really the same genre
>>747638681haven't played in ages, are the new dlc's any good?
>>747640439I thought RoR2 was neat for a bit but I quickly grew tired of it and went back to Binding of Isaac. Honestly so many of these games just feel like they're copying BoI.
>>747640790I loved all the DLCs but the thread seems to hate themIt just more stuff to do, and more items and enemies, more of what you want
>>747638681>OST so good I actually boughted it>on vinylits so fucking soulful and passionate.
>>747639236>2D toddler thinking his opinion matterswe've been playing in the third dimension for decades now, try to keep up
>>747640790yeah, but one of them launched ROUGH so the reviews are skewed, it was overhauled and fixed but many never updated their reviews so it looks worse than it is todaylatest DLC was really good, and the devs are actively not only listening to the players but also seem to understand the issue that comes with item bloat and want to avoid isaac'ing itthe last update for example focused more on mechanics and horizontal additions with better drones and suchstill needs more late game maps though
>>747638681>Nothing comes close to it.Consider this Alice
Game was ruined with the DLCs.
>>747640982Please tell me you actually have a record player and aren't just hoarding plastic garbage.
>>747641212I do, but I dont really own vinyls, you just dont really have time to bring it out to play some music on you but some of the RoR2 ones are worth it
>>747638681use to run on my shitty laptop until an update dropped and made it unplayable for me. Miss this game.
I decided I was never going to touch a Hotpoo game ever again after they sold everything to Gearbox (who then promptly ruined it all) and left to work at Valve.Shame, because I enjoyed pretty much all their games.
Simulacrum update fucking when?
>>747638681I've tried introducing this game to my friends but they all hate it. I'm so sad
>>747638681I had this shit in my library since like month 3 of early access but never bothered booting it up until a couple months ago.It was kino and I was mad I didn't play sooner. It's every bit as good as people were saying, just a fun, tightly designed roguelike.
>>747640790i feel the alloy was a little pricey at 15 it seem a lil steep for what it was... now when it goes on sale for a 10ner that feels like the sweet spot
>>747641918damn, Im making a game and people consider 15 for alloy pricy? It was greatYou people would kill me if I asked 10 for my DLCs
>>747642637a whole game i feel is different from a addon... im just a lil furgil with my money... also taxes add to whatever i buy so 15 is more like 17... for me that sale they had and it being pretty much a 10 was my sweet spot.2 characters 3 levels and i think 16 new items dont seem bad for 15 but then you have to take account for the other dlcs.
>>747643496no but my DLC has 6 new characters, 5 biomes and like 20 new items. however its a 2D isometric rougelite so the quality may not be as good as ROR2anyway thanks for the valueble info
>>747638681Dogshit without 50+ mods installed>>747641091>copies dogshit parts almost 1:1
>>747640691>Deep Rock>Helldivers 2>Killing Floor 2How the hell can you play any of these games for an extended period of time? They're all super repetitive and get boring after 30 minutes.
>>747638834>I HATE having new content to look forward toHow raped do you have to be to have this mindset?
>>747646073>I LOVE paying for meaningless bloat foreverHow raped do you have to be to have this mindset?
>>747646302>more content>bloatkekyou dont even like videogames
>>747638681I liked RoR1 but RoR2 is just so boring. 3D killed this game.
>>747646482You must think Fortnite is the game of the century
>>747638681boring weird guy gamethe guy who played the soviet anthem and made polandball memes has this as his most played game
>>747638681>>747638834Reminder
>>747638681>every run ends with the same "gorillion proc effects just delete everything on screen with zero player's input" shitI got 400 hours out of this game from day 1, but I wish the classes made any fucking difference past ~25 minutes mark.
>>747646589what does this mean?
>>747647382If you do this Randy won't get your money
>>747638681I enjoyed Megabonk. but that's just a dead Reddit game now.
>>747638681Gearbox fucked this game into the dirt.
>>747647923They added best girl Seeker so it wasn't all bad
>>747648016shes too flat
>>747646589Does this still work? I remember doing this but then at some point I lost access to DLC content.
New survivors just droppedhttps://youtu.be/p1f7Vwcknw4
>>747638681RoRR is better.
>>747652249>top recommended videoyikes
>>747646563it is tho? millions still play it and it still gets new content almost every month
>>747639236>>747640439>>747646534>>747652513 (You [Me])These.
>>747652249>my nigga enforcer finally got inI don't even care about the absolute current raped state of RoR.
>>747652513Can you aim up yet?
>>747653407No.
>>747653829Think I'd rather just play terraria then.
>>747639236take your meds
I think I'm too retarded for this game. After 30 hours I still can't beat it on normal difficulty
>>747638834The second DLC was the worst but the third DLC was by far the best large content update the game ever had>>747641516shit gamemode desu
>>747645941You act like RoR2 is any differentsure you find new shit but in your brain you already have a meta set up in mind and a playstyle you hardly deviate from
>>747638681Endless Alice mogs
>>747638681I never liked the whole STAY IN THE DANGER BUBBLE part of the game. It seems like a stupid way to enforce you to get mobbed or fucked by disadvantageous spawn locations
>>747656058If it worked like RoR1 youd just stack movement and then endlessly run away from danger during the teleporter events, only approaching to grab your loot and move to the next stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1f7Vwcknw4Enforcerbros, we fucking WON
Game is a fucking mess of random gameplay systems that Hotpoo threw at the wall. And all those gameplay systems are fucking broken, held together by bandaid fixes before slapping on a new gameplay system. Meanwhile core issues with the gameplay were never really addressed so you have a really mediocre base game experience with all this random shit slapped on top. Once it got bought by gearbox and turned into endless DLC slop I stopped playing.
>>747638681Endless Alice blows this out of the water
>>747657392the character design sucks in that game
>>747657313>of random gameplay systems that Hotpoo threw at the wall. And all those gameplay systems are fucking broken, held together by bandaid fixes before slapping on a new gameplay systemsuch as? please provide examples
>>747657313>eanwhile core issues with the gameplay were never really addressed so you have a really mediocre base game experience with all this random shit slapped on topprovide examples for those too
>>747638681Skilless synergy slop
>>747657691Void prison>so good to hit up that its retarded not to hit it up ASAP on every run>devs nerf it so it advances time now>now its fucking useless and nobody uses it>it now rots away forgottenBad item pool>9/10 items are complete dogshit>1/10 items are op as fuck>runs at high difficulty become very RNG as everyone is trying to hit the 1/10 items>bandaid solution: printersItem printers>"fixes" the dogshit item pool>problem: get a good printer and you auto win>more egregious problem: item scrapers>players can now mulch the 9/10 dogshit items into OP items if they get lucky with printersLunar Shops>1/10 lunar items are OP as fuck while 9/10 are useless dogshit>players know this and cheat in infinite coins to spawn a portal>now everyone fishes for OP lunar items>also lunar shops have fusing stations for better items >the one trade off of it being RNG is gone with scrappers being a thing>issue is never addressed
>>747638834To be fair as someone who hates Randy and Gearbox in general the dlc of RoR2 is not bad, just a little bloated and gimmicky.
>>747658220>Lunar Shops>players know this and cheat in infinite coins to spawn a portalI had friends who would do this every single time when I played with themThey'd reroll the lunar shop 5+ times just to get the best items, at which point why even bother? Just cheat in 100 of each normal item if you're going to do that. Also to expand, proc chains. RoR2 suffers from being third person and being unable to see everything at once, so hotpoo decided to give proc chain effects insane power so you could hit enemies in your blind spots, every build eventually devolves into stacking ukes + atgs + bands at which point you nuke the entire map with a single shot, almost every character aims for the same items and if you decide to loop or get some lucky printer RNG then you become so obscenely overpowered that it's just a race to see how fast you can scale your build until it crashes the game.
>>747658220>>now its fucking useless and nobody uses itthats not what happened, nor why people actually avoid void fields. The real reason why people avoid void fields is because they made it several times harder in many ways, but now its way, way more rewarding because it has a TON more chests and goodies, which you conveniently didnt mention.It was actually still pretty good. It was just very hard. People simply failed to adapt and realise they dont have to do ALL of it every time, or that they can come in with money farming methods to efficiently clear lots of it without having to wait for many cells to clear.It only rots forgotten in part of the playerbase, people whoa dapted still like it>bad item pollretarded statement from retarded faggot. 80-90% of items are good. full looting will let you win with extreme consistency, 90-95% of the runs are very easy as any character if you understand how most items are good.There is virtually zero RNG to win at monsoon for most characters unless you pick the most dogshit skills. Only a few characters genuinely struggle/need luck to win on Eclipse 8, most notably Rex>item printersIt doesnt need to fix the bad item pool. You autowin with a good printer, you also autowin with many singular items or simple pairs of items so i dont see the problem. >ScrappersPeople who think they should spend 9/10 the item poll into scrappers are retarded faggots who rely on RNG. You made yourself very clear in being one of those people, and thats why you cant consistently win. Actually learn the items next time.>Lunar shopsThe only real point you made so far is that lunar coins are retarded. congratulations you are correct about somethingLunar items themselves arent meant to be something you abuse every run though. You can do that if you want and stack a billion transcendences and gestures, but at that point its not too different from cheat engine.1/2
>>747658220>>747658695About 20% the lunars are gigabroken and 80% of the lunars are meant to either be gimmicky entertainment, something that is very situationally insanely good, something that is very good for particular characters, etc. Only two/three lunars i can think of are genuinely bad, and one of them is providing some pseudo-QOL at a hefty cost (focused convergence) so i dont even really see the inherent problemBut yes you are right, lunars really could use a rework. Youre a genuinely retarded faggot about everything else though
>>747658695A big problem with RoR2 is that there is virtually 0 skill expression. I sunk 100+ hours into it and I never needed to get mechanically better at the game. Once you learn what items are good, what items are dogshit, and how to influence RNG in your favor the game has nothing left to show you. Every enemy is countered by circle strafing and abusing I-frames.
>>747659208Have you tried that Eclipse mode?
>you either become way too weak and can't kill anything or you kill everything you look at instantly, no inbetween>loot pool is so fucked they had to add the scraper and printer to "fix the issue" which means you will spend most of your time playing just printing items>the characters themselves are like 0.1% of all your power, the rest comes from items making the actual character pointless after 5minI just want a game like this but more grounded.
>>747656006>>747641091One of the ugliest games I ever saw.C64 Pitfall looks better.
>>747659010>retarded statement from retarded faggot. 80-90% of items are goodFucking no they aren't. Nigger every player chases the same 5 items every run because proc chains are fuckbusted OP and are the only way to scale past a first loop. Have you ever wondered why every faggot started using command for their runs when the artifacts dropped?
>>747659420Not every player.Even if that was true, if most of the playerbase is more noobish at the game and struggles to win at monsoon instead of winning literally every single run, theyd be fine.This is why a lot of people try to remove scrappers for fun and still consistently win nearly every runIf you want why dont you just make a list of supposedly "bad" items so i can point out how theyre nice? If anything most poor items compared to their rarity lie on the green pool, but thats also the same pool with extremely ludicrously busted items like bands (which have effectively a 2x droprate lmao)
>>747659420>proc chains are fuckbusted OP and are the only way to scale past a first loop.if you fail to scale past a first loop your itemization is seriously wrongProc chains are also not the only way to multiply damage. Multiplicative damage boosts literally exist and are busted in the same mechanism as as proc chains are
>>747652249where's the PRON ?? ? ???? ?
>>747639236yes. RORR is 589 times better
>>747659420>. Nigger every player chases the same 5 items every runwould these "5 items" beArmor Piercing Rounds, Energy Drink/Hoof, Focus Crystal, Delicate Watch, Glasses, Medkit, Tri Tip Dagger, Tougher Times, Sticky Bomb, Syringe, Opal, Lens Makers Glasses, ATG, Deathmark, Hopoo Feather, Kjaro's Band, Runald's band, Ukelele, Wax Quail, Pred instincts, Scythe, Ghors Tome, Fuel Cell, Chronic Expansion, Rusted Key, Crowbar, whatever other 9000 things i forgot, and whatever bullshit they added in this expansion?
I prefer how RoR Returns backported some good changed of RoR2 back into the gameplay of the first game such as not having to hunt down every fucking little nigger before you're allowed to move on to the next level
>>747660812>R
The existence of scrappers/printers is a dev self admission that the item pool sucks balls and they weren't going to fix it. Every item is either scrap for a printer or actually worth using.
>>747661976or maybe its because they are funare you ashamed of naming makinga list of white/green items? afraid you might humiliate yourself?
>>747661482Returns is so much better than OG ROR its not even really comparable. Even the most contrarians will agree on that.The only crime Returns did was adding that stupid easy mode control scheme that makes you mechanically better, because people cried too much. You can simply remove it and play the way the game was always meant to be played
>>747662224>its fun to sit around and watch the same slow as fuck scrap/print animation play for several minutes straight
>>747662362DependsThat aspect of scrappers/printers is unequivocally horrible but most people would agree the reward adds a lot to the entertainmentIts also partly self imposed. A lot of the time, you could be doing the scrapping and printing at the same time as you farm money and kill shit
>>747662224Every single discussion about roguelike itemization goes like this.>I think most items are dogshit but i would NEVER EVER EVER EVER make a list of things that are bad
>>747660891>get purple shrimp>win the game>nothing else even matters, maybe get something you can use to pillar skip to mithrixcool game
>>747663424Its been a long time since I played RoR2 but I remember those new corrupted items almost always being universal upgrades to their defaults.
>>747663424a sole purple shrimp is a 40% damage boost that doesnt do proc chains very well compared to the normal ATGbut yeah its pretty busted
>>747638681>Still no Ancient Scepter equivalentFucking hacks.
>>747638681Insane how good Vanilla Risk of Rain 2 1.0 felt before all the updates and DLC. I had more fun getting insta shredded by a burning elite than I do playing a modern run
>>747638681it felt more challenging closer to it's initial release. i think a bunch of the newer items have made it too easy
>>747664971I don't think hopoo knew wtf they were doing with RoR2. I think it was the sky meadows update where I stopped having the same level of fun as 1.0.
>>747638681For me, it's Commando. The best survivor in Risk of Rain 2.
>>747658695>I had friends who would do this every single time when I played with them>They'd reroll the lunar shop 5+ timesLmao. Try 50+ times. Every fucking time. I fucking hate this retarded shit, by far the worst thing RoR2 intoduced, fuck you Hopoo, I hope you will flip Gaben's burgers in hell for eternity.
>>747661976>>747662362>retards wasting their time and scaling the difficulty for nothing to scrap and print whites when they could just be blasting through stages and getting substantially more itemsEvery single time it's a moron like you who doesn't understand the game bitching about it.
>>747665631The most fun? AbsolutelyThe best in numbers? ehhhhh, if they gave him even 10% more base attack damage he'd be great
>>747666130I play exclusively on monsoon and loop until the game crashes or I die in a single frame to a basic enemy attack. Cry more about it bitch nigga.
>>747666232I bet you have a mod to speed up printing too faggot, kill yourself.
>>747666352I don't bother with mods sorry.
>>747639236TPBP
