Did I fuck up by helping them?
>>747641512Yeah, that locks you into the bad ending.
>>747641512They're going to go in people's dreams and make them cum, thanks a lot asshole.
SMTV has very little consequence for anything not a dialogue option In the old games if you even used the wrong alignment demons it would change your ending, V is meant to be baby mode if you like it that way
Choosing the lawful option in a smt game tends to end up with an ending where free will is eliminated. And chaos ends up with everyone raped by demons. So pick your poison.
>>747641790Law is a good ending sometimes, the first game’s was pretty shitty though
no because she joins your team and she's way better than the principality from the law questalso sex
>>747641790>me going for chaos>thinking we can keep demon around like pets>it’s just an all out wars bullshit.>you as a new god is powerlessOriginal V chaos ending is shit, Law and Neutral also bad.
>>747641569Log off Tao your route sucks
>>747641689Enjoy.
>>747641786Yeah, I've been researching other SMT games, and seems like Strange Journey requires you building specific alignment teams, that sounds annoying af.
>>747642117That's one of the good parts about SJ though, it makes replaying for different aligments more interesting.
>>747641512NOOOOOOOOO DON'T SUCK MY DICK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>747642117>researchingvideo games are made to be played nigger
lol what the hell
>>747642117It's not annoying at all and it forces you to properly roleplay. You have plenty of demon options to choose from whichever alignment you go with.
>>747642778It doesn't really force anything, co-op barely matters, even with the damage boosts in the remake, and should be ignored for better resists and spells.
even demons can't stop doom scrolling
>>747642570You research to avoid wasting your time on retarded garbage like that.
>>747642117>that sounds annoying af.Correct,SJ is one of the worst SMT games ever made.
>>747641512>Did I fuck up by helping them?Chie might be in a bit of trouble but your fine
>>747641512Vengeance is heavily chaos-biased, no matter what options you pick you're going to end up with that ho Yuko whether you like it or nott. lawfag still pissed about it
>>747643884Wasn't a problem for me, you must have somehow agreed with Yoko too much.
>>747643884lawfags have never been known for their taste
>>747643884Why the fuck would you ever pick Tao on the new Vengeance route?
>>747641512>helps demons>"uhhh guys did I fuck up?"
>>747642009Yoko ain't gonna fuck you, bro
>>747644782She seems trustworthy though.
I think my problems with CoV endings are that >Law ending is way too safe, like, even more than the New Law ending from Strange Journey Redux >I have the opposite opinion on the chaos ending where I think it's way too extreme, while I agreed with more Chaos viewpoints, a hard reset is just not the way T. Got the law ending because I used Tao way too much
>>747641512>Persona gets new shit every year>SMT gets nothingSMT6 when bros?
>>747641786>The game is less annoying so that makes it bad Kill yourself you're insufferable
>>747645156There are tons of SMT games, just play old ones like Digital Devil Saga 1+2, those look and play great on PCSX2.
>>747645168It's called friction, and if a game doesn't have it it just becomes autobattler minmax slop.
>>747645253Brother I've played every single SMT game. I want NEW games.
>>747645296>Brother I've played every single SMT game.I somehow doubt that, Atlus' back catalog is yuuuge.
>>747642117>Forced to use more of the demon roster if you want to see the other endings.That sounds cool as fuck and only a God damn CASUAL would complain about it.
>>747645168>Anon comments that V is baby mode because it makes something easier (a rightful notion that's been portrayed since fucking WOLF3D)>Newfag gets butthurtlol it just makes me wanna check out the SMTs that kept that mechanic since I've only played Nocturne and V.
Why is Yoko so down bad for the Nahobino? No other aligment rep in the series has been this shameless
>>747646412Because she's an extended edition girl.
>>747641790>free will is eliminatedAlmost all of them is your parent telling you to stop putting your fingers in the electric sockets. You can do what you want as long as you don't destroy everything. Law is the best option almost every single time.
>>747641786Anon, V literally decides it's ending based on your choices. Siding with Lilim is chaos allignment points.
>>747642009>>747644702stop liking evil womenstart liking nice women
>>747648717Tao is fine, just kinda boring.
>>747648717Tao and her ear will never be my goddess now get on the bench with your trash healing while Yoko nukes more enemies for me.
>>747641786>In the old games if you even used the wrong alignment demons it would change your endingI mean, That's mostly minal. For that to REALLY shake your aligment, you need to grind like crazy. The dialogue options and actions of the main quest are still the major factor on what ending you get. SJ is a game with a lot of dialogue options that matter for aligment points, but you can still tank correct course for the last gore questions.
>>747648717Law route was a bit boring but she was a much better girl than that bitch Yoko.
>>747648717Somehow she looks even moire evil.
I played vengeance should I play the other 2 routes
>>747642009>t. carcuck
>>747649153Yoko is fine then she turns mega evil for no reason
>>747649168There's only one other route, but I always liked Creation, it's fun and arcady. At the very least the end bosses are different and pretty cool, you fight the other Nahobino in Creation
>>747645707You already playe the two peaks of the franchise, prepare to become disappointed.
>>747649153FUCK OFF CAGIE
I thought the Yoko hating cars thing was just a meme, but this scene is actually real, it's in chapter 2, shortly before the 3rd checkpoint.
>>747641790Well I do hate cars so..........
>>747649224>no reason She was always like that, that's why YHVH sealed her before the conceotion happened
>>747649431I've heard good things about 2 and 4
>>7476498592 is shit.4 is good but be careful about your stat distribution, some of them are bugged and literally useless (I don't remember if it was str or dex)
>>747645490sassy cat
>>747650010this but the opposite
>>747650010None of the stats are bugged, its just that the scaling is counterintuitive. If you want to abuse the funny gimmicky normal weapons in 4 then you build strength. If you want to spam physical skills then Dex is what you want.
>>747648717>Dedicated healer character >Gets mogged by Idun>Gets taken out back by Konohana
>>747650134No, they absolutely are as I remember they fixing it in IVA
>>747650189>Mogs Idun back in late game >DLC P2W character
>>747645707>lol it just makes me wanna check out the SMTs that kept that mechanicEnjoy random encounters every single step then
So I'm planning to play Nocturne after V, is it true the game has horrible QoL, e.g. if you ever delete a skill on MC you can NEVER get it back? Any other bullshit to watch out for? I don't like using guides, I thought I would just download the Steam version + the 60 fps patch and play it blindly and make my own fun, but I learned of that permanent skill loss thing by chance and it worries me the game could be annoying to play.
>>747641512No. I let them live, too. If they get out of line, I can kill them later. Give them a chance, I say. Just one. They will help a great number of chuds and incels. See it that way.
>>747650134strength scales phys skills but at only half the rate dex does, so while not totally useless it's still a waste of points while dex also gets gun on top4 is a joke anyway so your build doesn't matter at all
>>747650675I've heard 4 has like 400 demons but it's all JPEGs so not as satisfying as 5/3. Plus you get a human partner each chapter and you cannot control them, so hello Marin Karin from Persona 3. I guess I'll wait for a remaster/remake.
>>747651018if demons being jpgs filters persona babies like you then I'm all for it
What did she mean by that?
>>747649631It's not the only time she brings up car related deaths too.
>>747650303If you're playing the steam version make sure you play chronicle or maniax, steam version let's you play even the original release of Nocturne by default which has way less content. Don't worry too much about losing skills permanently, the only skills to keep an eye on are focus because it's super strong in 3, pierce which should be obvious, null nerve because it's critical for one of the end bosses without going for all magatama run, and Tornado, which you can forget just fine, but just be aware that it's an endgame skill despite being available at the beginning of the game
>>747650303>playing the steam versionYDNBTG
>>747653663>Play the PS2 version.Boy I sure love pressing X and O a million times until I get decent skills on my fusiones
Hebe demon Alice!
>Favorite Qadiştu is the least useful one PAIN
>>747654069She's awesome, Capitulate to Pleasure is one of the best status skills in the game.
>>747654069I didn't really like any of them. Their various gimmicks are weird to build around and I never really rely on ailment and almighty for party members anyway. The uggo one has a neat phys skill but the endgame for phys is figment slash spam and anybody with a better resist spread can do that.
>It's out
>>747654345Atleast it my experience it gets mogged by Cleo's Frolic
>>747650189No, she's better than Idun in VV because they giga-nerfed Idun and Konohana is a P2W DLC character.
>>747645041It's safe because it's a weird mix of Law and a scrapped Neutral ending people found in the game files.
>>747648717I hate nice girls.
>>747654692Nerfed Idun is still better because she isn't stuck with Hamaon and isn't weak to dark. Their unique heals are effectively the same since almost no enemies debuff you and you're constantly buffing yourself anyway.Tao a shit, lawfags begone.
>>747655170You realize that weaknesses don't mean shit in SMTV when you can just make everyone immune to whatever they're weak to.
>>747641512something I don't like much about this game is that it always portrays the angels, the righteous, the ones aligned with heaven as evil extremists and oppressors. Meanwhile the demons are diverse and just surviving, alright?
>>747655412>Meanwhile the demons are diverse and just surviving, alright?Wrong. Demons are evil assholes and would kill you for fun. Kids these days can't read.
>>747655170>He has gotten double debilitate by the Demifiend party This is the moment where Tao shines since her heal works as a Dekunda + Luster Candy all at once, Yoko on the other hand is a glorified almighty Debilitate spam machine
I still find it weird how Law is always the "better" option in these games compared to CHAOS
>>747655557Chaos is just Law but the most roundabout way to arrive at the same conclusion.
>>747655397Yeah just level up Tao until she gets null dark as her last skill so she can do nothing but click her buffed media all day since hama sucks and you can't customize her skills. All the human party members are benchwarmers except Yoko because she's way ahead of the curve on medium and heavy attacks which is actually useful instead of the dumb support gimmicks the others have.
>>747655482It's called engagement bait and you fell for it.
>>747649631I always thought the same thing about carsam I autistic like Yoko for thinking humanity should've come up with a more reliable way to travel?
>>747641512No. You should forfiet all mortal possessions to the lilim
>>747655726What a pathetic way to live.
>>747655975No. The way she goes about off the handle talking cars is autistic but the point she's making is a valid one
>>747656232How many lives have cars saved? She's stupid.
>>747654551Frolic is good for the debilitate effect but to inflict charm it's actually worse than Sexy Dance. Capitulate to Pleasure is 2x as effective.
>>747656317I didn't know that, also she's weird to build around? Do I make her a buffer/debufer? Lilith already does that and better? Do I make her a dark caster? She's mogged by Fallen Abdiel or Vishnu, do I make her a status effect merchant? Loa already does that job better by default.
Normal Battles:Lower enemy defense > lower enemy attack > everything elseBoss Battles:Lower enemy attack > lower enemy defense > everything elseSukunda is weird. It's both the best skill and the worst skill. It will save you when nothing else will, or it will do nothing.
>>747642117Alignments actually mattering in both story and gameplay is good. SJ didn't go far enough, if anything.
Nigger talking shit about Strange Journey when it's the best game in the series. Of course the niggers talking shit never played it, too.
>>747643652Are those white toes!? Anyone seen those ai videos online?
>>747648717love that bit in Shinjuku when Yoko starts her usual bullshit and Tao just sighs, closes her eyes, and completely shuts her down
this may be the only game were i did chaos route willingly, but sadly the better boss fight is on law route
>>747655975not really, that exactly the point that auto-driving car companies are making now a days
>>747657694Tehom fucking sucks dude what are you smoking
>>747657694Chaos endings are always the same. World goes to shit. Demons rule. Survival of the fittest forever.
>>747642117SJ's alignment combo system is dumb but mostly for the implementation being lame and led to every boss being terrible without press turns to give them anything interesting or threatening past the middle of the game.
>>747657885mastema is a cool fight and my favorite of both, don’t get me wrong, but he is too easy even on hard, while tehom is a fucking bitch that will leave you buck broken with all the seal heals & attacks, in that sense she a better final boss
>>747657885Gimmick le puzzle fight is better than a Mastema rehash. Nigga is weak to WIND.
>>747655975A regular chaosfag would understand that the power and freedom a car provides outweighs the dangers it poses, but since her deal is the entire world sucks and needs to be destroyed because YHVH is an asshole she has to pretend they're bad because the society that made them is bad.
>>747645041This is really the problem with Law as SMT has progressed. More traditional Law endings are very, very unpopular, and tend to just be discarded outright, and not considered serious endings my most people. Safe Law completely defangs the downsides of Law and makes it too easy to pick over the others. And there's really no in-between. The things that make Law what it is, are the things that make it stupidly unpopular. To the chagrin of edgelords everywhere, "good" endings where people are generally happy tend to be very, very popular. The ending where everyone gets tortured and dies rarely wins out except in very trying circumstances. Safe Law is a way to make Law compete as an option with the other two, but usually just completely supplants the other two, because even their more safe depictions are usually a bit of a shit twinkie, while Safe Law is just usually unambiguously good.
>>747658206Puzzle fights are cancer.
>>747658156>>747658206Tehom is utterly brainless you just use each element and it wastes half it's turns doing nothing.Meanwhile Mastema has the giant fist of god and tornadoes
>>747658245I think the way they see it is that people will pick Chaos anyway despite 'safe' Law being objectively too good just because they're attached to the demons, but it really is a stupid way of balancing it, where it's side with the demons because you like them and get a bad ending vs. side with the angels and other characters you don't like and get a good ending, just not a fun balance.
>>747658245SMT 2 needs are remake badly. Not because it's a bad game, but because it would introduce new players to a world of Law. SMT 2 is the law game, like SMT 3 is the chaos game.
should I lower the difficulty to casual to beat satan?
>>747657969Devil Survivor's Chaos route is fucking kino.
>>747658245the biggest problem of smt is that all games start during and a law age, if we were to start during a world submerged in chaos were we truly see was living in a world like that would represent a lot of more people would choose a law ending, if anything just because things need to change
>>747658559Most games start in a neutral world.
>>747658486just don’t beat it them, what is the fun in that?
Has anyone here played the SMT 2 PSX translation that came out recently? How's the quality? It was made using AI, so I wonder how it turned out.
>>747658654I want to larp that I beat him
>>747658735You can always lie.
>>747658559Also why Devil Survivor is kino.You start in Law, it becomes Chaos, Chaos really sucks but was imposed by Law, and then you become Chaos to end Chaos forever by fighting Law, who imposes Chaos because they're bastards.
>>747658245Law and Chaos are supposed to be bad, the crux of the series is faith in humanity and rejecting extremes, and if you're the kind of chuuni teen these games are made for and think those extreme endings are cool then there's the option to pursue them anyway. The writers for the new games really seem to either not get or actively try to subvert the old themes and make all the endings either all great with neutral being some esoteric self sacrifice to restore the old status quo. tl;dr old = good / new = gay
>>747641512Thanks, bro. I’m not a virgin anymore
>>747658206Mastema is weak to fire, he is strong with wind. I like how Mastema and Tehom have opposite gimmicks, where Tehom wants you to hit all her weaknesses to prevent her big moves, while Mastema gets stronger if you hit his weakness
>>747658624most games start in a moder civilization that is, for the most part, governed by LAW, the only game that has come close to it has been smt 4, and mostly because we are outsiders to the whole thing
>>747658693I'm currently playing it. I like it. I forgot how the Cathedral of Shadows was an actual building you have to visit in order to fusion stuff.
>>747658486If you're gonna cheat then use the strategize cheese since it's at least fun to do.
>>747658223unironically ruins her entire character for me, also her tits are way too small
>>747658809how to forgethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc_irtS7eJU
I did true demon ending playing through SMT 3 because i REALLY hated Law and Chaos and wanted to see is there an option to say fuck you to everyone involved
>>747659041>say fuck you to everyone involvedBut you are the devil's bitch.
>>747658992>english dub
>>747659215>ken-sama.jpg
>>747641790I'd say SMTV(V) is basically one of the exceptions.V Law: Has (You) look down on your creation as the sole supreme god, pleased.VV Law: Basically a somewhat improved reset button but (You) implicitly don't get to participate IIRCBy comparison:V Chaos: Other gods squabbles and ruin the world as (You) as "first among equals" can only cry over the devastation, unable to do shit about it.VV Chaos: SUPER Reset Button, return existence to primordial sea as the new Adam to Yokos Eve to make something new from scratch.Paraphrasing here though. I think the sidequests also kinda juggle the "best" outcome on occasion.
>>747659215SHONEN
>>747659041>becoming lucifer's onahole to reject chaosYour sexy teacher repping neutral is right there and you chose to be gay
>>747659260In retrospective, the original endings for V are shit.
>>747659260>VV ChaosWhat if (you) want cars in the new world?
>>747658803>with neutral being some esoteric self sacrifice to restore the old status quo.3 set that precedent.It has two neutral endings. One where you get called an indecisive prissy faggot and don't get any ending at all, and the one where you reset the status quo, with the ending note that the IS going to happen again, but you won't be present to make that choice again, meaning you just kicked the can on one of the other endings. And that is now the standard for Neutral, except the games where Neutral is objectively correct by such a ludicrous margin that the game even having a means to pick one of the others is just a waste of development time. I think 4 is the worst case of this, where the other two routes are just objectively shit, and having to work out how exactly to be enough of a schizo to stay neutral is the game.
>>747659435then there is CHAD strange journey neutral ending where you keep killing god everytime he gets uppity, why also boning lucifer somehow
>>747659435Actually, this raises a question. Which games have Neutral as being a specific thing, rather than the result of being a continuous contrarian?
>>747649631I mean it's weird because the way to reduce the number of fatalities with cars is to increase public transportation usage which is even more Law if anything.
>>747658992Zeromus-esque
Can we talk about this guy being the best law rep we've gotten in a while? his pragmatic conclusion of how to best bring about a world of law was really cool even if done in like 1 or 2 cutscenes in the original route.Vengeance ruined it by making him get brainwashed by Mastema thus removing all nuance from his character
>>747659424Mandala... the endless eons... a never ending cycle...
>>747659435Disco Ball always calls you a bitch if you don't pick the three reasons. Demon end isn't really neutral it's just destroying the world and not replacing it with anything out of spite. The actual neutral end isn't the weird catch 22 the latter games have, like doomguy being stuck on the moon or beano being locked to spectator mode.Like everything else wrong with the series it started when Kaneko left after Strange Journey.
>>747659674WORLD OF TRAINS, MOTHERFUCKERCHOO CHOOOOOOTECHBROS HATE IT
>>747659735His ending is the best.
>>747659041>Too stupid to realize he got groomed by the Devil Lucifer in this game is fantastic, most people get railroaded into being Lucy slave and thinking it's the good ending
>>747659401V gets the classic NOOTRAL THIRD OPTION EXISTS undermine, doubly so since Neutral gets to double dip ad unlike certain other cases that do so does not have either be "YOU FUCKED UP BY HALF-ASSING!", Honestly one of the best aspects of VV was having the balls to just go binary rather then have the "Obvious Right Option" waiting in the wings for once. Even if that kinda been a thing since SMT1.
>>747659918It is the good ending in gameplay terms since it has the most fights, and is the only way to fight Lucy at all, so people usually go with it regardless of whatever actual ending they might prefer.
>>747660018Destroying the throne and killing all your demon friends for nothing is such a retarded "hidden true" ending I never bothered in getting it.
>Makes you do his bidding for free>Calls you a retard for falling for the Qadistu bullshit >Casually takes control of Tiamat >Drops this banger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8feismEFasYMastema will forever be my favorite demon
>>747642009Tao is made for sex.SEX with Tao when I'm not having SEX with my demon girl harem while Yoko watches.
Shin Megami Tensei IV has the best ending in the whole series. The White. The White were right.
>>747660121Reminds me of Gin's dogshit ending in Devil Survivor. It's like if Pokemon had an ending where you erase all pokemon.
>>747660413Tao cropping out her head so you don't see her dumb face and bigass ears (singular)
>>747660331why did he do it?
>>747660121>>747660436Demons aren't your friends, they are your employees at best and slaves at worst, even cutesy little Jack Frost won't doubt in freezing you to death if you slightly annoyed him
>>747660413cute thighs
>>747660429>casually BTFO by a computerThe White are Shite
>>747660564Why would I erase my employees? Why would I give up power and control? Why?
>>747660564>and now I will throw away my cadre of powerful servants because...I don't want them anymoreGreat stuff there Gin, what were we thinking?
>>747660732For the other niggas than don't have access to a demon summoning program or have special demon powers aka 99.9% of the population that would get killed by a lvl 1 slime
>>747655975It's just the way she says it which is silly.Public transportation is way better than owning cars and wasting space with a million parking lots.Raidou also has a plot segment where you fight a demon car.
>>747660880>Get rid of your employees and usually your human friends too>For a bunch of losers you don't knowWhy?
>>747660880
>>747661075>Public transportation is way better than owning cars and wasting space with a million parking lots.Unless you live outside of a major metropolitan area with a population under 50k.
>>747659346Lucifer's entire fucking deal is freedom. You're nobody's onahole.
>>747647858Only vengeance does that. In the original and canon of creation you choose your ending with a dialogue option.
>>747661169>freedom Lucy is a spiteful bitch that wants to tear down heaven because he's still mad Michael tossed him to the lakes of fire because he thought he was better than his creator
>>747661169>waged war on heaven for refusing to serve humans>just let me free dear human when I become god it'll be awesomedidn't know they had internet in cocytus
>>747661296Ok? Then don't take his deal. You can literally turn back anytime even after kicking Metatron's ass. Lucifer doesn't force anyone to do anything. If you take his deal you do so out of your own free will.
>>747661296Mixing up SMT lore with rl Christianity is a recipe for confusion anon.
>>747661459He didn't wanna become god. He wanted there to not be a god. You beat him when he realizes he's still stuck in the greater mandala.
Man /v/ just aggressively refuses to understand anything huh.
>>747661704>vague accusation to nobody in particularsomebody's afraid of having to back up their opinions
>>747660564gone are the days of "demons are just tools", now you got shit like the demon hunt that encourages making bonds with your demons, back then it was mandatory to get rid of weak demons, but now we got so much freedom to customize them there's no such thing as a "weak demon" anymore.
>>747661908honestly.GOOD
>>747661884>proving my pointThere are two types of people: those who can extrapolate from incomplete information
>>747661908powerlevelling earlygame shitters is not encouraged, in 5 its a vanity project that needs tons of grinding to still not be as good as natural endgame demons, its just easier to do than old games where you had to grind all the xp manually instead of auto level items
>>747657408It's a SMTV thread.SMTV niggers hate SMT, fucking garbage thread for garbage people
>>747660880Fuck them other niggas, nigga.
>>747661169lmao the father of lies would never lie to me, because I'm soooo special.
>>747660331
>>747655975I'd gladly let the rest of humanity die just to drive a car myself, fuck other people.
I want to fing the guy who listened to the complaints of the original and decided to add Persona elements to it and punch him in the face.
>>747660121Another tallypoint towards DeSu1 being the only good neutral route in SMT history. If not for being based than for being funny as hell
>>747659735When I first played SMT V I thought for sure he was going to be the Chaos rep and the other guy was going to be the Law rep, he was more impulsive and emotion-driven and even says something about "wanting more power" which is practically the trademark of a Chaos rep while the other guy was more collected and intelligent and trusted the main authority figure which you tend to see more with Law repsIf it was an intentional switcheroo then it was very well done and one of the best parts of V imo, if it wasn't intentional then I'm just a fucking idiot who misread them at a first glanceI liked Vengeance but wasn't keen on how it handled both of them in the new canon, they both (+ discount Raidou) got shafted HARD in that story
>>747663794Nobody really was done well in the story. Really the more you try to get into it the more you regret it.
>>747641512>help demons throughout the game>pretty much all of them are nice, grateful or actively want to protect humans and just want to live in peace along them, or understand that they should keep their distance>NOOOO DEMONS SHOULD BE PURGED HUMANITY FUCK YEAH AMIRITE?If they really wanted me to side with the Law or Neutral routes, they shouldn't have made demons so friendly and compelling. One of the Lillim even gets a human boyfriend and she looks so happy about it.
>CoV: "nooo, humans are incapable of making bad choices even the bullies didn't deserve it, it's nobody's fault, let me give a speech why bullying is bad and some trite shit about we have to be good goys always"Vs>CoC: "You've made your own choices and we're enemies because of them, I'm going to kill you, no hard feelings"
>>747660564Since Nocturne, Pixie always join you unconditionally.Napaea a shit and doesn't count.
>>747648717It's so funny how much better her ending is. Also yokos fuck cars autism was out of the blue
>>747660582IDUN RAEP
>>747664264>One of the Lillim even gets a human boyfriend and she looks so happy about it.Where?
>>747664264You simply can't make a good story were the message is to reject what made you interested in the story. I'm never going to enjoy some retard preaching to me about how what I like is wrong and evil while being a grifting hypocrite that makes money from selling exactly what he's condemning.SMT is a game about allying with demons and that's the message of the story, it's not something open for interpretation.
>>747663794To understand law vs chaos isn't as straightforward as good vs evil, but the game sure red herrings you a lot using the angels vs demons conflict for it, it's more maintain the status quo and fall under a certain ruleset made by someone else but because you would get something out of it vs burn everything down so a better world can be made.Dazai fits nicely in Law because he finally found a place to belong where it had positive reinforcement and didn't have to think about it other than be a useful pawn.But some hack writer had to come in and ruin this by making him brainwashed or some shit.
>>747665096I get this feeling whenever some fantasy property pulls that "And then we have to destroy magic to save the world" ending.
Kinda bummed the Demifiend doesn't use pic related as his press turn icons
I wonder if in the next SMT we'll start to pull from urban legends, closest thing I can think of is mothman being the most recent folk creature.
>>747661169Freedom means you're everybody's onahole if you're weaker than them, until a group with laws form out of this chaos.
>>747665657Paul BunyanJohnny AppleseedJohn Henry
>>747665657SMT4 already did Chemtrails. So they could keep adding more odd recent shit if they wanted to.
>>747665657>closest thing I can think of is mothman being the most recent folk creature.Isn't chupacabra newer?
>>747665657>Femme La Llorona
Bump
i wish there was a version of 4a that didnt constantly interrupt me with yapping so i could replay it
>>747665096Yeah, that's what really irked me about the Chaos ending, the game pretty much constantly directs you into creating a society where humans and demons can coexist as long as you weed out the bad actors, which honestly beats having Japan disappearing from the face of the planet, but instead the game plants it as a bad idea and ends with the major gods waging wars against each other because of "reasons", while the True Neutral route is literally wiping out all demonkind, including all of the demon friends you made along the way, because of "muh humanity's strength". Great game with terrible endings overall, but I guess that's a trend on SMT games.
Is the first nuwa fight supposed to be long or I'm I just shit at team composition?
>>747667834It is but you're probably more prepared than you think. Earnestly attempt it without worrying about the HP.
>>747665657That's just Persona 6 (Persona is Sheen Megoomy Tensay)
>>747667834the fight ends when her health hits half
>>747667834It's an "unwinnable boss fight", you have to reach half her HP. iirc, you can bring some Wind resist to trivialize her.
>>747667951>>747668062>>747668146beat her first try, mainly because I was running with a zio team because I previously fought Jatayu and I had the wind block for nahobino but I thiught the damage output was low
>>747641512Is there any reason to play the base game or should I just play Vengeance?
>>747668281She's only particularly hard in the original 5 if you're underleveled and she can beat the shit out of you before you get there because of the obnoxious level scaling. Vengeance is unfortunately pretty easy after fixing that, but still much better for it.
>>747668498The base game's campaign is in vengeance (canon of creation), the difference is that you're not stuck playing it on a sub-30fps console
>>747668498Vengeance simply has more content and also has the original story, so there's no reason to play the OG game, which I believe was delisted anyway.
Rate my demon harem, veehttps://files.catbox.moe/s342jn.webmTheyre level 99 cause i'm playing mostly blind, did two runs of CoC before Vengeance and didn't learn until later you could only raise the lvl cap on this path. I'm using incenses to buff their stats in the meantime.
>>747667773>ends with the major gods waging wars against each other because of "reasons", whileZeus is not going to suck Odin's dick or Shiva would bow down to mothman. It's a matter of them being egotistical
>>747669572why aren't they naked?
What do we think of Abdiel?
>>747670875She cute, and her ass looks delicious.
>>747669572Mermaid my beloved.
>>747670780Demon girls jiggling all over the place would be too OP, fatlus had to nerf>>747671048How about now?
>>747671513Would
>>747671513Still cute, still got a delicious ass, and now she's got a sexy whip tail, master Abdiel is perfect no matter what form she takes.
>>747671513Damn she looks like THAT without makeup?
>>747669572>Gabriel My nigga
>>747663794>Law reps are impulsive power hungry and a fallen angel>Chaos reps are the honor student protecting Tokyo and the cool collected prime minister >Neutral rep is genocidal hypocrite and literally a chaos demonThey were intentionally atypical.
LOL!
