>put a item needed to kill a mandatory boss behind a missable secret questI want to like this game, but fuck me, some of the decisions are so baffling that they drag something that should be a 10/10 into a 4/10.Anyway, late to the game, its best looking most mediocre souls game i played.
felt the same
>>747652452What item is needed for any mandatory boss and by what do you mean by missable?
>>747653191this fuckeryou need a secret needle to disable his cursei beat him second try, but the moment i did i knew the design of it was one of the worst thing i have ever seenit just makes me angry on a fundamental level for just existing, like, why? same baffling shit as putting multiple bosses behind a random destructible unmarked wall in a random ass spot you will never figure out unless you look it up online
>>747653414It's annoying to do that fight without the needle, but it isn't mandatory at all. It's setup that way to encourage exploration I guess, and none of the quests like that are missable in the sense that if you progress too far you can no longer complete them.The Loong scale behind the wall is setup so that the rat boss destroys the wall but since that isn't hard-coded it may not happen for everyone and that is kind of bad but also the only thing like that in the game.
>>747654534you can beat elden ring lvl 1, but it wont be enjoyable experiencethis boss is just pure cancer without it on top of shitty hitboxes, even pole stance will miss 50% of time>none of the quests like that are missable in the sense that if you progress too far you can no longer complete them.its part of the snake side questIf you kill the secret boss too fast you will skip the needed interaction>The Loong scale behind the wall is setup so that the rat boss destroys the wall but since that isn't hard-coded it may not happen for everyone and that is kind of bad but also the only thing like that in the game.You mean its extremely unlikely?what are the chances that you will be fighting the boss next to that particular wall and one of your hits a heavy spell attack on that one particular spot? 1 in 20? 1 in 100? 1 in 1000?overwhelming mayority of players will miss it if they dont know about it ahead of time
>>747653414It's not mandatory. You can beat him without the needle it's just harder.
>>747652452whatever happened to the silent stoic protagonist? why doesn't this monkey ever shut the fuck up
>>747655652what? he only speaks like 10x in entire game, 99% of the time he acts like a retarded mute
I dropped the game when I got to the prison level.
>>747653414I beat him without the needle because I never use guides and got to Chapter 5 without a single vesselI did get the three talismans though, it knocks off 20% of his healthbar apparently. It was still hard as fuck honestly but it's doable without the needle. you just gotta focus up lil bro
>>747656557>>747653414I mislinked that was meant for OP
>>747656523>game has bats that can knock you into instant death pitt>game has no range attackslmao, devs really dont understand dark souls
>>747656657what are you talking aboutuse the abilities manyou can immobilize enemies if you think they're gonna be a problem or better yet use cloud step to just run right past them
>I can't get it with my current items>I probably don't need it
>>747652452You don't need the item though, stop spreading bullshit.
>>747656657I didn't even get to that part. I knew the level would be cancer when I woke up in the cell so I uninstalled the game immediately.
>>747654918>If you kill the secret boss too fast you will skip the needed interactionNo? You will always get the needle vessel for beating the chapter 4 secret zone even if you do nothing else in that whole area.>one of your hits a heavy spell attack on that one particular spot?The boss itself can break the wall with multiple attacks. Those attacks also have some degree of AOE that will break the wall as well, so it's actually fairly likely. It's not guaranteed though if the player accidentally guides the boss to only fight on the other side of the arena.
>>747656767There is no hope left for man.
>>747657342>You will always get the needle vessel for beating the chapter 4 secret zone even if you do nothing else in that whole area.that's correct. if you do the purple cloud mountain area too fast you can miss some optional bosses, but you get the needle after the Duskveil at the end no matter what from snake girl>>747654918oh look more misinformationyou can transform OR use a spirit ability to break the wall.https://youtu.be/IqtIy5iC71Y?si=93_Nxz9yPgH1-pE0&t=97
>>747657690>you can transform OR use a spirit ability to break the wall.yeah if you look it up you retardgood luck figuring it out
>>747652452NOO THE GAME IS FORCING ME TO PLAY THE GAME TO BEAT IT
>>747654534>none of the quests like that are missable in the sense that if you progress too far you can no longer complete them.Scorpionlord is permanently missable if you lose to him too many times or beat the secret boss as a very simple example. For the former he just outright leaves after like 10 losses even though he two-shots you and flails like a spastic so it's hard to even win, and in the latter case he won't spawn at the temple or for the fight if you do so which is necessary to get something from him.If you kill one of the twins in chapter 2 in the wrong order you can't get certain equips or a bestiary entry forcing you into NG+.If you don't get the rat in chapter 2 to heavy attack a wall you have to use very specific spirits to do so to actually find the area behind it.There's also armor pieces that are permanently missable if you don't obtain them before certain bosses. Yes, some side quests can still be completed in each chapter no matter what but not all of them.
>>747652452>put a item needed to kill a mandatory boss behind a missable secret quest>neededprincessbride.gif
>>747659930who cares it's not a mandatory itemit's a secret for a reasonuse a guide if you want the game to be easier instead of whining online that you missed an item>>747660274all of this is correctyou can miss some of the secret areas like Bishui Cave if you don't complete the quests for thembut some things are possible whenever
>>747661257>just use a guidelmao, fucking retardevery game that requires outside information is shit
>>747661617there you go again with the "requires"skill issue
this is like complaining you need to do the Volcano Mannor quests in Elden ring to get the item that counters Malikeththe bossfight is perfectly fair without itsame for the various shackle items
>>747662346ER allows you to level up, increase your stats and change you buildin wukong there is no leveling up and you have 1 weaponwukong as a whole is way too hard on multiple bosses vs how easy the rest of the game isits retarded hard in fact for a casual action game
>>747657017You made the right call, it doesn't ever get any better. It's really all just downhill from the beginning
>>747665248>it doesn't ever get any betterChapter 4 is better than 2 and 3 though 5 is visually bad.
>>747657017maps get way too big and empty after that, you can run for few minutes and meet no enemiesoverall everything past halfway feels unfinished
>>747666382fucking cookies, cant get chrome to forget my name, gay ass browser
>>747653414I did it without the needle or the three talismansit was a pain in the ass, though.
