LMAOOOOO
its american made. dont you hate chinks? buy it chuddy boy.
>$1800
>£1,080 for a Quest 3
Now that the last failed hardware is out can we start development on half life 3? Kthx
>>747659085we'd have vr headsets in every household if it weren't for the inventor of the transformer
ordering two
>Note: Power Supply not included
>>747659085Worth it for seamless steam integration and not being from an advertisement sales company.
>>747660170Who the fuck doesn't have 100 chargers at this point?
>>747660973goy
>>747659085No games
Can't wait to play all the new cool VR games on it such as
>>747661547I've been putting off VR for so long. I am kinda terrified i'll play it once and die from motion sickness.
>>747659085Why does a vr headset need ram???
>>747662796it's a standalone device
>>747662796It is its own system
I don't care how much it costs. I will buy it if it has games, but, right now, it doesn't.
>>747662881Ok, why is a vr headset a standalone device???Games barely run on 5000$ graphics cards nowadays.The fuck is this gonna run? Penguin Club!?
Valve couldn't even make a launch title, do they have any game developers actually left there
>>747662980cables
>>747663052Yes, but>CS2 barebones several years post-launch>GabeN attends Dota tournaments every other day>Deadlock receiving weekly updates
>>747662796>Fucked with VR during pandemic Wizards II: The Dark Age is honestly fucking amazing. You cast different spells with your hand movements. Idk if it got a sequel.
I'm a brainlet with the Steam Frame, can I just plug it into my computer with a cable to let my GPU do the graphics work? Or does it not plug into my PC and it's just all self contained?
>>747662980it comes with a 6 ghz dongle to stream actual games to it from your PC. The standalone stuff will be for baby shit.
>>747659085what has released since alyx that is worth buying a vr headset for. i don't play racing games
>>747661959protip have a fan blowing on you and you won't get motion sick
>>747664114Nothing really. VR is for Sims, porn, and VR Chat.
>>747664010it doesn't plug in at all, you get a 6GHZ adapter and it's entirely wireless
>>747659085Why does it have its own processor, RAM and mass memory? Isn't the idea to plug it into your computer which actually runs the game?
>>747664114Lone Echo 2, Alien: Rogue Incursion, Bamham (not ported to Frame yet). The list doesn't go on, that's it
>>747661547>Beat Saber>Gorn>Boneworks >Blade & Sorcery >Blade & Sorcery with Star Wars mods
paying 1000 for a system that people stopped making games for a couple years ago just seems a bit high. maybe if valve had the decency to put out a press release with this saying they've got some new VR games in development people would be jumping for the chance
>>747664458isn't lone echo a facebook exclusive
>>747664489>newliterally all those games are from 2010s
>>747664489I think I refunded Blade & Sorcery many years ago because it was just too janky and fucked at the time.But killing the women made me feel things that simultaneously piqued my interest and also terrified me
>>747664551They announced HLA with the index and the fact that they didn't announce shit with the frame should really tell you that it's fucking dead on arrival
>>747664558It's an oculus exclusive, and that's basically a PC game, you need to tinker a little with a program called Revive to launch it but that's it. Meta Quest exclusives like Bamham need to actually be ported by someone though, there's no emulator currently. Most of them were ported by pirates to Pico though so it can't be that hard
>>747664114Nothing. Recently there have been tons of VR mods for 2d games being made with AI, so there's only really that.The Frame's controllers are perfect for that since they are basically 1:1 with a normal controller in terms of buttons. That's all the frame has going for it. Wish I could use those controllers with a different HMD.
>>747659085B-b-b-but /v/ told me it was gonna cost 2800$!
>>7476646102019 was only 7 years ago. That's like saying the PS5 is dead because Demon's Souls and Returnal came out in 2020.
>>747664551>buying VR for games instead of pornthere's your problem mate
>>747664423It can run games standalone too.
So if you wanted to run emulators on this would it be like what you'd install on a RasPi?
>>747664896>porn on a device without color passthrough*>*unless you buy a separate device for an extra $150just doesn't seem that wise either
>>747664029Wait, it won't play Alyx without streaming?!
>>747659085Just signed up for the 1TB version. God it feels so good to not be poor :^)
>>747664852>That's like saying the PS5 is deadNo that's like saying that PS5 isn't new. Which it isn't, the gen is almost over
>>747665026Of course not, the stand alone mode is for simple non demanding games.
>>747659085>over 2000 maple dollars with proper comfort and a power cordwowmy PSVR with a globular cluster comfort kit and a pc adaptor wound up running me just under $650 all said and done
>>747664657>Installed nude sexy women mods>Have to kill nude sexy women running at me with swordsSame anon. Same.
>>747665026>>747665132No, there's a standalone Alyx for it. Doesn't look as good as the normal one though apparently
>>747665139Yeah but then you have to play lmao Playstation games hahaha.
>>747664657>shot natalya in the titties and crotch as a wee lad in the late 90's playing goldeneye caverns>totally brutalizing women in VR nowsame as it ever was
Why is every single valve product overpriced garbage?I'd say they're the apple of gaming but they're much worse because at least apple puts effort in their software
>>747665048I'm not poor.The problem is I already tied up $2000 in Apple credit.
>>74766513216GB of RAM for simple games?
>>747659085>less than 1.5keh, better than expected
>>747664610I do this thing where I just play good games. I dont worry about the year they came out in.
>>747665269>all hardware getting more expensive>BUT WHY IS VALVE OVERPRICING EVERYTHINGOK retard.
>>747665013>color passthroughnta but doesn't that only matter for AR shit?Why would I want to look at the real world for VR porn?
1,500 CAD!1,500 CAD!?!?
>>747664332>>747664029oh ok. Is there an optional cable or anything if i dont wanna use the wifi thing?
>>747664924Why though? The specs are shit and it'd be far cheaper to make as a pure peripheral. It's like making monitors that also function as shitty standalone computers, it's just a waste of resources.
>>747665210uh.. no?>and a pc adaptorit's just a PCVR headset. i don't even have a PS5.
>>747665350yes, it's called the valve index
>>747665026>>747665132It does. They did get it working standalone. From the YouTube reviews, I wouldn’t expect amazing results. It appears to be using a combination of foveated rendering and reprojection.
>>747665279Yeah like solitaire rendered with UE5 and DLSS5.
>>747659085would it be better to just buy one of those glasses that stream your pc to them instead of a VR headset, they always seem like a crapshoot, unless you get a quest
>>747659085>>747660170Huh? There was a charger in the box in the LTT unboxing though.
>>747665127New is meaningless when it doesn't come with visible hw advancements, half of the PS4 library could come out today and no one would bat an eye.
Sure, let me buy a useless paper weight for a thousand bucks because there are literally no VR games
>>747665048Actually curious on your position then. If you can afford anything, why go with the Index? Is it strictly the wireless? The Pimax Dream Air seems like a really good headset for about double the cost of the Frame.
>>747665313you missed the part where competitors are offering better hardware at lower cost right now, tranny shillthis is the performance valve gives you for $950
>>747665621NTA, but I'd always choose an inside out headset instead of an outside in one that means you need the little pylon things everywhere.Fucking cables running around like it's 2000. I don't have time for that shit.
>>747665534Literally every unreal engine game is getting a VR version.
I'm buying the 1tb version if I win the lottery.
>>747665735I really don't care about playing normal games that also happen to support VR in some formI want VR-only games, otherwise what's even the point?
is it worth it for jerking off in vrchat?
Steam is on a solid streak of fucking up. $1000 +tip for essentially a quest 3. Lmfao.
>>747665686Nintendo has enough status and money to be able to get contracts to buy memory in mass, even at higher prices than normal. Valve doesn't. Valve has one single deal with a company who ships them memory every so often with a bill attached, and if they don't pay the bill, they simply don't get any memory anymore ever.Seriously, are you a retard or what?
i put aside 1k but i was hoping it would be less, 6 to 700 range. Expensive toy. But i'm also looking forward to the VR pornI heard a VR headset&a pocketpussy&VR POV porn is next level.
>>747665865you don't have to buy it if you're poor.
>>747661959pro tip get some hard candy (rock, caramels, whatever you call them). airlines and bus lines used to use these to get people to not get motion sick, and some still do now. if it works for airlines it'll work for you at home
>>747665498You can purchase one alongside your headset for $30. All of the peripherals are locked behind a locked in purchase of the headset, seemingly.$60 for fucking velcro "ergonomic" accessories pisses me off, there is actually no excuse for this.>>747665686This is clearly not a 1-1 comparison, the Switch version has different geometry, textures are lower resolution, and lighting appears dramatically different.
>>747665721The Dream Air supports both inside-out and outside-in. It does have the one displayport cable.
I need to find some good vr giantess porn
>>747665686the switch 2 having a pay-2-press button remains hilarious
>>747665937I'm looking forward to it just because I don't want to use my Rift S anymore and get my data bussy stretched by Meta's spying.
>>747665865yeah but id rather pay that than be tied to fucking meta kek
>>747665879I thought valve fans said they are the biggest gaming company and now they aren't?
>>747665865The pcvr experience from the reviewers appears to not even be a competition between the two. The Frame blows it out of the water.
>>747660035>startThey've already been working on it for 6 years. It'll be out soon.
>Stopped smoking weed >Haven't used VR since
>gamesnexus guy specifically points out the passthrough as feeling like low framerate shit and gives him a headacheI never use passthrough but isn't that going to be really bad for the people who use it to make a floating screen? That sounds way worse than the fact it's not in colour
>>747666231>but XYZ saidFuck off. I never said that shit, so don't come at me with that weak nonsense. Even the most generous estimates out there don't put Valve as being nearly as worth as MS, Sony or Nintendo, and they're new to hardware manufacturing. Of course a relatively smaller company will not be able to arrange the same kinds of contracts or buy as much memory in bulk as the top dogs.
>>747662796streaming decodetracking itself + controllers + your eyesthey went with a standard phone chip package
Sucks that the ram crisis fucked over Valve but at the same time, VR still doesn't have a single killer game that makes it worth it.
>>747665686you can see that the switch version is massively downgraded not just in visuals but actual objects lol.
>>747666231biggest software company yeahhardware not so much, there's like 15 people that worked on the frame
>>747666416The $150 color pass through camera basically seems mandatory if you’re going to use it as an AR device.
>>747666106>The Dream Air>$2.3kAnon, that's twice as expensive as this new Steam Frame
>>747666665we don't know if that camera will have the same issueslike yeah we know it's in colour and has better resolution but if it's still not doing distortion correction it's a wash
>>747665385this but unironicallythey're targeting absolute retards for the steam frame
>>747666669Yes, which is why I was originally responding to the poster who said it’s great to not be poor. If money is a non-issue, then although Frame has very good specs, it’s not enthusiast class, and the only reason to stay away from enthusiast HMDs is because of the price for both the headset and the gpu to run them. I was curious why he would go with the Frame at all.
>need to buy new networking equipment for my home lab>need to buy a new TV to replace my shit 1080P one from a decade ago>need to buy a whole 3.1 AV system because I have a living room nowWay too many other necessities to buy before I indulge myself with motion sickness
>>747666891I'm not a VR addict and my PC is mid range at this point (3080), and I'd just be using VR for Beat Saber, Subnautica, and shit like Battle Sister.
>>747665013If you're too poor to afford a 150$ device chances are you don't really want to see your crack shack while playing VR in the the first place
5/10 REVIEW NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOTHESE FUCKING JOURNOS ARE ATTACKING VALVE
>>747666820I wouldn’t purchase the device in the hopes that pass through processing will improve over time, but if it’s not a hardware issue with either the native or add-on cameras, you would think that would be something they could fix with a firmware update.
>>747667163IGN IS JOINING IN TOO WTF IS GOING ON? THIS IS A ROTHSCHILD OPERATION TO ATTACK AND DESTROY VALVE, WE CANT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS
>>747667240ROTHSCHILDS PUT NANOBOTS IN THE STEAM FRAME TO MAKE BATTERY ONLY LAST FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF! THE NANOBOTS EMIT HEAT THAT BLOW AGAINST YOUR FOREHEAD AND MAKE A LOUD WHIRRING NOISE TOO! FUCKING ROTHSCHILDS, HOW DARE YOU ATTACK GABEN
>>747659979It's at least a Quest 3.5
>>747659085Nice im buying it
>>747667163>>747667240>>747667340>2hr battery life>fan near your head gives you a migraineFuck bros, is there any non shit VR headset that does inside out tracking and doesn't come from a company that steals your data, and doesn't cost thousands of dollars?
>>747659085In other news I can't wait for the Valve Index second hand market to get flooded with people looking to fund their trade up. Might finally get me one
>>747667240YES ITS THE ROTHSCHILDS.CAMPO SHITTO IS INNOCENT I MEAN VALVE IS INNOCENT
>>747660973Me. My phone charger is micro-usb.
>>747659085I wish they had made it twice as expensive. With the price this low I'm probably going to lose the lottery now. Fuck's sake.
>>747667450PSVR2 is your best bet. Otherwise, no.
>>747661547Phasmophobia
is there a single lighthouse tracked controller with more than two face buttons?
>no OLED
>>747667163the day the steamies died...
>>747667340>The fan is using all the power in performance mode>Not the processor going full speed>Also I put it in low battery life mode and the battery life was badGood to see journalists are still as retarded as ever. I'd like if the battery life was at least double.Also what is the streaming battery life? That would be my primary mode anyway.
lol at steamies
>>747667240>stop it from dethroning the much cheaper Quest 3In what way? Also, what is there to dethrone? The Frame was never going to outsell the Quest 3. I’m not convinced a Quest 4 will outsell the Quest 3. The Frame on the other hand appears to be a far better pcvr headset, which is the only thing that matters, unless your goal is to sell Android Marvel games and collect usage data.
>>747667583>PSVR2But that's PS5 only, right? I need something on PC
>>747667884it works on pc
>>747665621It's light, self contained, has a dedicated wireless dingle and I've always had a good experience with Valve hardware.
>>747667163>>747667240>>747667340So I'm guessing the user base is going to be split then: for those with a good dedicated GPU for streaming or for those who wants to use the onboard chip.I have a 3090 still so I'm going to stream as much as possible but for those without a GPU, the Quest 3 is going to be the better option it seems.
>$1400>worse performance than a base ps5
>>747667884No. They unlocked it for PC last year after it sold like shit. It consistently goes on sale for $300. It has an oled screen, but not a great one, and because of that it had to have fresnel lenses.
>>747668005If you factor in the PSN monthly fee It's actually cheaper.
>>747667717>300$ per display>small displays so low fov guaranteed>low refresh rateno thanksI'll wait until 2032 for the good small oled panels to drop
>>747667918Oh ok>check Steam>all reviews are shitting on the PS App you have to use to get the headset to work>check online>PSVR2 is currently unavailableFuck's sake
>>747659085Worth it for not having to deal with zuckerberg's bullshit. That said, some of the shit in the accessory kit should come with the device OOTB
>>747668132For sure. The issue people ignore with oled for vr is that you need a significantly higher pixel count to achieve the same level of clarity that a 2160x2160 lcd can achieve. So the panels are more expensive, produce less light, and you need a lot more video card to drive it. Unless you’re someone who has a 4090/5090, people shouldn’t have wanted oled panels in the Frame.
>>747666991>need to buy a new TV to replace my shit 1080P one from a decade agoTVs have only gotten worse over time. 1080p is perfect for TV gaming, considering you're not sitting up against the screen. In my opinion, anyways.
>>747661547imagine a candlejack vr ga
>>747668391Translation: I’ll spend 2x the price of a quest 3 for an inferior experience out of brand loyalty. This is why people call you cultists
>>747668005The price is completely fucked but it's a good computer that can play the biggest back catalog of games available. Plus, the online is FREE.
FOV dataTotal FOV: horizontal: 118.52 deg vertical: 109.42 deg diagonal: 130.35 deg overlap: 100.44 deghttps://risa2000.github.io/hmdgdb/
>>747667574People that have no intention of buying always join just to clog it up
>>747668510NTA, but it's not brand loyalty, it's 'don't spy on me.'The Oculus software Meta forces you to use spies like a motherfucker, 24/7. There used to be a fan made alternative called OculusKiller, but it's not being updated anymore.
>>747668510The alternative is a subsidized headset that records you and maps your house to send to Meta.
>>747668510no, I'll pay more to not deal with zuckerbeg's bullshit, learn to read, retard.
>>747668653presumably, because I got a Steam Machine eventually even though I don't think they got many more units than the initial haul. I just had to wait for people to sit around for 3 days while they ran out of time deciding whether they wanted to buy the thing they signed up for
>>747668510I'm not giving facebook all my data you fucking exhibitionist freak
>>747668653yeah they should have come up with a better system
>>747668757My floorplan is available in the county assessors website. Google is already spying on me through my phone. Microsoft is spying on my through my computer. The FBI is spying in me from the van across the street. What's one more spy?
>>747659085>110 fovuseless trash
>>747668927yeah this system seems designed to delay everything massively. They should have given priority to people with old accounts or people with $X spent on the account or fucking ANYTHINGlotteries like this just mean even the people who win them have to wait an extra 3 days
So with this being overpriced to shit and I'm officially too tired to put up with waiting to try it what's the best headset to try this shit out with?I've somehow made it this far in life without a Facebook account and I want to keep it that way if possible. What are my options?I was looking at Pico but apparently there's some really fucky shit you have to do to make it work
>>747667358its a Quest 3 Wifi dongle edition
>>7476590853070 going to be good enough for streaming from PC?
>>747669037It’s different somehow because it just is okay? Now let me buy my overpriced poorly made garbage slop because it has the valve logo on it
>>747659085Translate this in non monopoly money >>747664489All you really need for a fun time
>>747662980Because not everyone has a gaming computer?!
>>747668663>>747668757>>747668768>>747668843niggas just make shit up, whats next they sell your house mapped data to gang stalkers to effectively know your house layout and sneak in?
genuine question:Is the onboard compute needed for the foveated rendering to work well?
>>747666034You can purchase one if you need it, but they say that your Steam Deck charger can work, or any other 45w USB-C charger so you don't absolutely need one if you already have something that works. I won't need one as I have a Steam Deck charger I am not using because the Dock is doing that for me, so that's an easy option >ergonomic accessoriesThese are Index style hand and head straps . These aren't necessary, but some people like, some hate, and some will buy 3rd party alternatives. Thats probably why they were left out. Go look at the hand straps -these aren't just Joycon dangly connectors to keep it on your wrist, these are Index style straps which I personally like so you can open your hand all the way and have good hand tracking, but apparently Meta fags screeched about how it was bad and not necessary etc.. so its optional. Same with the head strap. Can't really be that upset about them selling the optional shit a la carte when many people will buy it separately, not at all, or an alternative
>>747669169bro the degree to which facebook uses the quest as a spying machine aren't even a secret, they literally tell you they collect EVERYTHING
>>747659085Valve can't into hardware
>>747668628>the online is FREESo if I buy a gabecube, then I don't have to pay Verizon/Comcast a monthly bill anymore? The thing would pay for itself in two years.
>>747669169>Meta would never spy on people using its productsI too wish I could be this stupid or naive.
>>747669169>niggas just make shit upTo be fair, at this point these SV tech companies have so little good faith left that making random shit up about them is perfectly justifiedIf you buy their products, you should not have rights
Does it at least have pancake lenses?
>>747669123Yes>>747669224Some compute is necessary, yes. If you're asking if it needs the full onboard capacity, I doubt anyone other than Valve's engineers could know that.
>>747669169>unironic meta shills running counter shilling the day frame goes upyou cant make this up
>>747669451>wanting shitty pancake lenses when you could have French Toast lenses instead.
reminder that frame's USB-C is USB2 speed
>>747669163If you're spending over a grand on a peripheral for games then you probably already have a fucking computer for games, retard.
>>747669576That’ll happen when the Quest 3 is half the price and higher quality. In fact that’s a consistent theme in every review I’ve read, everyone says that Quest 3 is far better value and the only use case for the Frame is if you like collecting plastic with the valve logo on it. Since you’re a loyal Valve plastic collector I’m sure it’s right up your alley, but for everyone else I think it makes more sense to buy a Quest 3
>>747665686Can you play tempest 2000 on the device on the top?
>>747669761well that's going to make it annoying to transfer 20GB porn videos to the storage
>>747669836tell me more marketerchan
>no headphone jackWhat a fucking ballache.
So it's better to get the Quest 3S in the end?I don't like Facebook stuff and meta ads on my headset.. I trust Valve's engineering but it's expensive.
>>747669295The online is not the internet.
>>747669826Uhm.... you don't know me? Also cool it with the ableism.
>>747669169I don't know what kind of madman would go through all of their terms and services, but here's just a snippet from facebook
>>747669169Nothing we could make up could be as fucked as truth. Everything isn't as bad as you think it is or have been told, it's far worse than you could possibly imagine.
>>747668005The steam machine is stronger than a PS5.
>>7476699323s has shitty fresnel lenses, at that point might as well just get a used quest 2 for cheap
I've never played any VR shit like this but how does this NOT fuck up your vision? It's gotta be super damaging to your eyes.
>>747669923Yes I’m a Facebook employee marketing a 3 year old headset. And you’re just a concerned poster explaining why everyone needs to pay 2x the price for something that is a worse product because it has the valve logo on it
>>747669932Yes, its better than the 3S, and even a bit better than the standard 3, plus has the benefits of being SteamOS powered FOSS instead of Meta's proprietary spyware watching everything
>>747660973Me. I upgrade my phone every 6 years. I have exactly ONE phone that came with a USB-C charger. The one before that came with a micro-USB and the one after didn't come with a charger.
>>747670126Why would it. Do you think we live in the 50s and screens fire photons at your eyes or something?
>>747670126you're supposed to play it for an hour and then go back to being a responsible adult
VR is for porn. VR gaming is a meme.
>>747659085holy shit it sucks kekarooo
>>747670126It's not. Sitting close to a TV doesn't damage your eyes, it's a myth.
>>747670126Short answer is that there are measurements for IPD and the displays simulate a focus length so its not like you're literally staring at something right in front of your eyes - your eyes focus at a depth and due to the lens styles and curvature as well as the displays themselves, its not straining the same way
>>747670126*squints*fuck up my visor???huh?I don't wear a visor when I play VR
>>747670126It 100% does, even more than staring at a regular monitor all day
>>747670126you get more vision dmg going outside when the sun reflects on some doods car.
I don't have a strong PC to stream from, is it worth it yo get it stand-alone?What will I be able to play and what I won't?
Love all the retards who've never even tried VR suddenly having opinions on the quest 3 vs frame. It's like when we were kids and would talk about what we thought sex was like.You are broke virgins.
>>747669224>>747669534No, doesn't need an expensive flagship snapdragon to do foveated rendering. If Frame dropped the ambition of being a standalone headset (dropping the ram, the SSD, and using much cheaper processor), it could have lowered the price to around $600 and have been much smaller and lighter due to not needing complex thermals or even as beefy a battery.
Did the wireless mode end up good enough to skip the cable in terms of latency etc?
>>747670126>still believes in made up hysteria bullshit decades laternice one
>>747668757Your decision.
>>747669932it depends on what things you truly care about and you won't budge on.Don't want with facebook's privacy nightmare? then quest isn't really an optionCan't/don't want to spend a grand on a headset? then frame isn't an optionYou must absolutely have AR experience with your heaerset? then frame isn't an option
>>747670126your eyes are already fried from the halogen highbeams that (((car manufacturers))) decided to make brighter than the sun
>>747670419Yes. Norm from Tested includes a breakdown on that on their video. 5ms latency, practically wired.
>>747670425>>747668757duh, mean to >>747669037
>>747669836>plastic with valve logoToday I realize Valve fans are the new Apple fans
>>747670212>screens fire photons at your eyesuhhhhhhhhh isn't that exactly what they do
>>747669971and this is just what they have to talk about in depth because it applies to children. For adult users, they don't have to specify hardly anything and can make use of everything. Faceboculous devices measure everything about you from your height, voice, gait, body style and composition (yes trannies, your bone structure gives you away again!) , stuff it can see in your house to estimate your wealth etc. That's just the shit we know already
>>747670484That's tendies.
>>747670446>AR experience >https://arcturus.vision/Mod for the Frame and with better AR than pretty much anything out there that's not fucking Varjo XR-4 class (which uses LIDAR I think).
Can a knowledgeable VR/techfag tell me how the Steam Frame compares to Pimax's Crystal Light? The Crystal Light is about $200 cheaper.
>>747669882Why transfer files via USB instead of pulling them off of a file share on my home network? Is that you Grandma?
>>747670147Worse how? How many GB of RAM on the quest?
>>747670672That's a visor, the Frame is a standalone console.
Just get a Quest 3 or Pico 4.
>>747670672ones a standalone headset, the other is basically a pc/phone with vr capabilities.
>>747669971>>disable meta service, add firewall rule, play through steamVR.>nah, I'll pay 1050+150+60 instead because using computers is hard.
>>747670684sounds annoying
Do not fall for the VR gaming meme, it's not worth it.I got a Pico 4 and ended up playing gacha slop, watching 3D movies, and porn on it.Actual VR games fucking suck
>>747671006Just say you're clueless bro. It's faster to transfer shit over wifi7 than a gay wire now.
How much is it in USD the site doesn't load
>>747670785What kind of passthrough on the frame?
How many PC headset without lighthouses currently exist? Or is it just Pimax and psvr?
>>747670985>8GB RAMYeah, alright, might as well use the Wii I guess
Nice thread.
>>747671073Skill issue
>>747671115>thread about VR>brings up ARBased retard
>>747670970>>747670913Oh, ok. I'm surprised the Pimax one is that expensive then. I guess the specs are better for the screens?
>>747670490you're mistaking backlights for cathode ray beams
>>747671081like I said, sounds annoying
>>747671248They are not
>>747671006Why are annoying yourself by transferring posts through a cloudflare server up to my network? Just pass the USB line to my house bro.
>>747671073>has shit taste>continues to have shit taste after buying deviceshocker
>>747671261How is it annoying? You drag and drop immediately. Instead of having to fumble around a cable for much slower speeds.
IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE LMAOOOOOOOO
How bad is VR if I wear glasses?
Can someone who is more tech savvy than me explain why I would need this if I have and am perfectly happy with my Index?
>>747669971I'm sure roblox has the same
VR gaming turns you into a monster
have any notable VR games even released after Half Life Alyx?My friend gave me their Vive headset after they moved on to an Occulus, all I've ever tested out was Google Earth, the VR mode of Microsoft Flight Simulator, and Space Pirate Trainer.
>>747659085i'm buying this (the 1tb version) because i'm not poor
>>747671437You don't. But it'll be there when your Index inevitably dies and all the bits for it are not produced anymore (which is now)
>>747671418You can get prescription lenses for VR headsets. I think there's even a thing for it on the official Steam Frame page in Steam.>>747671467It can, but mostly if you're playing that medieval fantasy battle VR game where you can dismember enemies. It awakened something in me, bros.
>>747670684UBS 3 is faster.
yet another embarrassing scam from valve
re4 vr is the best vr game and it's only on meta
>>747671314I didn't have to set that up though did I? The undersea cables didn't lay themselves
>>747659085why is the Steam Frame more expensive than the Steam Machine?
>>747671661Didn't they remove the ability to look up Ashley's skirt? :(
>>747671708Yeah and censored other shit even before the soulless RE4 Remake came out. But what did you expect from a pozzed shithole like Meta?
>>747669451it does, with a huge fov and overlap
>>747671437If you're perfectly happy you don't need to buy anything else.Index is a headset, Frame is a PC with 16GB RAM, higher resolution, and eye tracking, for about the same price.
>>747671685Want more power? PAY MORE, no more Mr."wait 18 months for more power for the same price".Want it efficient too? PAY EVEN MORE.
battery numbers from someone who isn't completely retarded
>>747671928Then they weren’t from me
>>747671374uh, anon?>>747671928
>>747670126Your parents were lying to you. They don't know for sure that sitting too close to the tv was bad for you.
Is the vive pro worth it in this day and age?It's old sure but it's also OLED
>>7476719281h8m battery life while gaming is brutal. It's gonna start whining that it needs to charge 45 minutes in.And imagine once it's two yo and the battery has degraded.
>>747672078Your parents were right because a screen's size dictates how far away from your eyes it should be. Too close and you have focus issue and could develop anisotropia or something.
>>747672158That's just if you're playing games with the headset hardware. If you're streaming, it's 3x battery life.Still not great and I'd prefer an optional tethered connection.
>>747662796That 16K MMD VR porn won't render itself
>>747672158nigga you're not supposed to run alyx standalone anyway unless you're megapoor, in which case just buy a ok pc and a psvr2
>>747670126Google what a lens is, then read Richard Feynman's QED, then come back here and see if you still need to ask this question.
>>747672052>test proves it actually lasts even less than the screenshot
>>747672224>Still not great and I'd prefer an optional tethered connection.There is, but it's basically streaming over usb
I genuinely wanted this to be my first set too. Guess I'll look at the Quest series or Galaxy. God dammit, Valve.
>>747671708imaigne being so insane that the ability to look up ashlets skirt breaks the game for you check yourself into a mental hospital with your gamer friends
>>747670607cool project but also extra money so that will be hard on people who are already complaining about frame's price. I wonder if frame will sell enough to see competition in the accessories space
I reserved mine today on my account and my three wives.
>>747665686>1/10th of the NPCs>1/10th of the polys>1/10th of the texture detail>2x framerateYep yep yep I'm buying another 12 months of nintendo online right now
>>747672158>>747672280Remind me again how long laptops last while gaming and maxxing out the performance?1 hour, all of them
>>747672307I know there's a power cord, but I meant I wish there was a cable for data too.
>>747672401are you getting paid to damage control or are you just dicksucking for pleasure?
>>747672408It does data. Just not dp over usb.
>>747665686Kek, people stopped falling for this grift a while ago
>>747672224>. If you're streaming, it's 3x battery life.doesnt that defeat the purpose of the steam frame being a standalone?
Bitching about all the wrong things when LCD panels are a definitive deal breaker. You can solve charging but you can't fix the image being shit.
>>747671880Ahhh okay I didn't bother reading about any of the new products so I thought it was just a wireless upgrade to the Index and not an entire PC within the headset
>>747659085So i guess there will never be a "true" index upgrade, right? I really don't want to bother with wired + bases VR anymore, my index has been collecting dust ever since i moved. Should i just get a Q3?
>>747672574Wait, I'm confused. I thought the Frame was entirely wireless except for the charging cable that's USB-C, and if you wanted to have your PC send data to it, you had to plug in the USB wifi dongle thing.There's a cable you can connect between your Frame and the PC to do both power and data?
>>747672235That's lame, that's like one grand and a half to play a 7 years old game. I thought I could get a Frame and play everything but AAA shit.
>>747670389No one is in a position to answer that, but it seems like right now it caps out pretty weak (like decade old games) if you're playing on a virtual screenFor VR basically everything seems to be playable, you just get worse visuals for the more recent stuff
>>747672534No, I've used mobile gaming devices (handhelds, laptops, other standalone headsets) and heavy use never breaks 1h of battery life. It's just a fact of nature because we can't make better batteries for some reason.
>>747672401Steam Deck lasts more than that and it uses a x86 CPU.
>>747672746It's basically the same as what quest does, the usb-c "charging" port also does data and can be used to stream over usb
>>747672737>I dont want wires or basesThen how is this not an index upgrade, retard?
>>747672343Good goycattle, just buy degraded product then get excited for the next product.
>>747672314>concern trollingAre the fucking Shazamfags going after the Steam Frame or what? I'm seeing very similar psychological warfare in these threads as back in the Elden Ring days.
>>747671454I don't think parents should let roblox either, but I also don't think roblox can estimate your kid's size, their room, and facial expressions simply because htey don't have the sensors to
>>747672737>I don't want wires or bases>I also don't want the headset with no wires and no bases?
>>747672835It's basically the only handheld to do so, and compared to other handhelds it's quite underpowered. Said handhelds last not even 45 minutes under load however, kinda proving the point.
>>747672921Just broke people trying to cope about missing out on things.
>>747660973Me because they don't come packed in with anything anymore.
>>747672921What the fuck are you talking about? Nothing about the Frame says "good deal". I'm a mega-Steamfag too
>>747672103>>747672652>>747668442
>>747659085still gonna buy it, what are you poor? only a dalit couldnt afford this.
Epicsaars and Metasaars are extra uppity this morning.
>>747673108>>747668442>with oled for vr is that you need a significantly higher pixel count to achieve the same level of clarity that a 2160x2160 lcd can achieveWhy? It's the same number of pixels. How can it have less clarity?
Be honest with me /v/Is VR gaming worth the cost of a head set? Not this one but any head set
>>747673103Did you genuinely expect it to be cheaper than this? Valve seems to sell their hardware at a pretty modest profit because they're interested in platform-building but choose not to use vendor lock-in (and worse, like data gathering) as a business model which means they can't compete pound-for-pound with Sony and Meta."Good deal" might be impossible to say about any hardware these days but you're not getting scammed.
>>747672869You sure? I don't see anything in the Connectivity part of the Steam Frame's Steam page that says you can do any data transfer over the USB-C. and DESU, that USB-C port in the back of the frame seems like it would easily break or come unplugged during VR play.
>>747673462This question but for vr porn.
>>747673462Depends how much gaming you'll think you do, the strength of your PC (unless you want a standalone headset like this), and how much money you can spend on disposable hobby stuff.
>>747673480But what the fuck is the point if nobody buys it
>>747672921The conclusion I came up with, is that it's a vocal minority of insane nintendofags, especially the same guy that comes up with schizo shit about "eric" or "OoTsnoys"
>>747673462100%
>>747672835deck's battery and resolution makes the biggest difference, it's 2.5x times bigger than frame
>>747673564>nobody buys itThe world exists outside of your broke nigger life
>>747673564It was originally planned to be moderately cheaper than the Index. Terrible timing I guess. Look at the Steam Deck, even that looks like a bad deal now.
>>747673603Give me your top 10 and number of hours spent in VR mode
>>747673486It's not advertised but yes devs have been using it for a while and it got more official support in a steamvr like a month ago or soIt's not ideal for playing yeah since it's not intended, but if you want to shave off a little latency (just the one from wifi, you still need to encode/decode) and play seated at your computer desk it's an option
>>747673540I have a 5070ti and 32 ddr ramis this head set worth it or should I go for a standalone?
>>747673671My broke nigger life already has a gaming PC, why the fuck would I buy this headset when quest which I already own does a perfectly fine job of playing the 2.5 VR games that are worth playing more than twice a year?Valve drones are something else jeez
>>747672737Yes. Fuck these disingenuous other niggers who replied to you pretending the frame doesn't cost 2x for the same specs.
There are a bunch of new vr mods lately mostly with ai assistance, are any of them worth trying? I liked HL2VR a lot
>>747672969>>747673656Makes sense, though I'm still disappointed. For some reason I expected the ARM processor to give it high end smartphone-tier battery life.
>>747660973if you use the wrong wattage/cable you will kill your headset, people ruined their steam decks using 45w chargers
>>747673820Considering Facebook buying Oculus Rift semikilled the VR market, to most people it makes a difference.
I need 3 GOOD games that are better on VR than on pc/console
>>747673875What does have the same specs as the Frame? The index? The quest 3? lol
>>747674047The fuck? Is this real?
>>747673739That's tough. best to less bestIL-2VRChatThrill of the FightDemeoVTOLVRAlyxWalkabout Mini GolfVermillionUnderdogsInto The Radius 2In total... 1786 hours across those games. Across all games must be closer to 3000.
>>747673795That's overkill, bro. I was doing basic bitch VR on a 1070 with my Rift S seven years ago. Anything better than 2080 will do good VR unless you want to max it on a cutting edge Pimax headset that's using high resolution.
>>747673820better sticksbetter streaming qualitybetter comforteye trackingSorry you are broke
>>747659085its just too expensive, i dont want it. VR is dead.
>>747674047>>747674293This is bullshit. You can't "force feed" your devices more than they can take to "kill it". At worst you're aging the battery slightly faster by maxing out the charging 0-100 which heats up the battery unnecessarily.
>>747674047>if you use the wrong wattage/cable you will kill your headset,WRONG>>747674293Unless you buy an actual chinesium $3 150W brick from temu you will have no issue, all non-shit wallwarts negotiate power so shit like this doesn't happen
>>747664798>The Frame's controllers are perfect for that since they are basically 1:1 with a normal controller in terms of buttonsNot really. Having them split ruins it.
>>747665513New isn't meaningless when the platform is starving for games. If any other platform released 1 or 2 worthwhile games every handful of years they'd be dead in the water just like VR currently is. Unless Valve has new standalone VR/PCVR games in development then releasing a slightly better quest 3 for a jacked up price doesn't make any sense.
>>747674687>all non-shit wallwarts negotiate power so shit like this doesn't happenAs does the device itself so it's not even enough to have a ultra shit walladapter to fry anything. They both basically need to be damaged or lead a copper wire with 240 volts directly into the device.
>>747674047The steam deck indicates incorrect wattage the moment you plug it. You would have to be a legitimate retard to not immediately notice something is wrong at 45w. I question your sources
>>747667813>the result of 20 years of anti-bullying campaigns.
>>747673746The Gamers Nexus review of the Frame (that just went up) said it's 100% wireless only for data, but they also said there's going to be some kind of accessory kit that adds other shit (like replacing the speakers with whatever the Index uses) coming in a few months as a standalone purchase (not a different SKU). Maybe that version will have wired connectivity?
>>747665735So what? There’s no point in it being in vr then. 3d TVs never took off. Nobody cares.
>>747665621NTA but I already have a galaxy XR and a quest 3, but I’ll be getting it too because I keep convincing myself I’m going to start making a vr game any day now.
so why doesn't it have power over wireless too??
>>747665801I mostly agree but you're truly robbing yourself of some great experiences of you don't play the Resident Evils, Gran Turismo 7, and Hitman. GT7 and RE7/8 were designed with VR modes in mind so imo they count as full fledged VR games, but RE4 and especially Hitman translate very well. Hitman is basicly the only reason I dust off the headset anymore.
>>747666142Say what now?
>>747675238>but they also said there's going to be some kind of accessory kit that adds other shitThat's the fabled "Enthusiast kit", an alternative headstrap with index audio and hot-swappable batteries.The port the headstraps use don't have the bandwidth for DP over usb so it's going to be the same thing as what the frame does (basically ethernet over usb)
>>747665879Nintendo 2025 revenue: $15BOperating income: $2.3BSteam 2025 revenue: $16.9BOperating income: $2.4BShut the FUCK up. If it mattered to them they would build those relationships.
>>747675638I know they added USB streaming as a thing for Quest 3, but I don't know if that means the Frame can also do or support data over cable.
>>747675370Tesla lost it.
>>747674948I charged mine with a 65w laptop charger all the fucking time. It's a non issue unless your using some chink garbage that will burn your house down anyways
>>747675703nta but they did a whole interview and revealed that memory suppliers told them to either buy it at this price or to never come back
listen guys, just buy ithackers? no games? market tax? hey check out these new knife skinsok if you dont buy it no HL3!
>>747675767It does, devs with frame devkits have used it
The battery life being under 3h is shitty. I wanted to get one for Beat Saber to replace Index, but I'm not so sure about it anymore.
>>747675767Frame only has USB2 for god knows what reason. They won't be able to add proper tethered option to it, ever.
>>747675870They’re lying and/or incompetent. They aren’t some little blorbo underdog.
>>747675969>nooo your company is doing too well! you have to start selling things at a loss!do commies really?
>>747676106>selling things at a losshow many pixels have you paid for? be honest
>>747675493There is a button that is only for opening not discord on the switch 2 controller. Said button does opens up a menu to pay for online if you don't have it. You cannot rebind the button either.
>>747672921Anon, it's just a bad deal for what you get. It's overpriced, unfortunately.
>>747668649Why isn't isn't the fov symmetrical?
the ram price driving up the cost?
>>747676219dunno, probably quirks of how that software works
>>747676168>you earned a lot of money selling apples so now you have to lose some while selling orangesagain do commies really?
>>747676057>incompetentIt's this.They failed to get contracts for crucial components ahead of launch, and now their pricing is horrendously bad.
>>747676342>the Frame has DDR5You tell me, anon
>>747675969>mad because someone is successfulKek. Love to see it
>>747676390wtf are you even talking about moron? everything he does is FOR PROFIT. you'd think the things he sells could at least be finished products.
>>747674047It doesn't have proper USB-PD power negotiation?
>>747676423enjoy your Steam Frame. lol idiot
>>747676342Steam Frame is made in the US
>>747670347We have record high nearsightedness in children and it correlates to the release of the smartphone. While you could say that it doesn't "damage" eyesight, it absolutely does affect it.
>>747676214Concern trolling is often used as a fallback strategy after being called out for trolling, but when you're called out for concern trolling you probably shouldn't be falling back on concern trolling again.
>>747668132why not AMOLED
>>747676219lens shape especially the cut out of the nose, seeing the physical edge of the panel if you are close enough to the lenses, faces being asymmetrical no two eyes are at the exact height width and depth, measurements take patience to do and rushing can put you off 1-2 degrees, your fov changes depending on if you are looking forward or to the sides but this FOV program accounts for that and you do all the test looking at center but user error is possible.
>>747662796it plays PC games
>>747676740You can call it what you like anon, it's still too expensive. I expected it to be lower than the Index since that's what valve said it would be. I may as well stick with my Quest instead.
>>747676591>enjoy the best VR googles on the market!!Thanks bro
>>747670389>is it worth it yo get it stand-alone?lol no>What will I be able to play and what I won't?just cause 2 (2010 game that was famously well optimized) runs at 40fps
>>747668927there should be a fee to join the list so you don't have people joining just to keep the option open
>>747677010lmfao an idiot and his money are easily parted
>>747676727The nearsightedness epidemic started way before that.
>>747677063yeah
>>747677081IDK but I think paying the Valve Premium to not have to accept Meta's 50k+ word count novel of a privacy policy is worth it
>>747676601That explains a lot.
>>747671467can skyrim vr be modded to a level where its very interactive like blade & sorcery
>>747677081Based misunderstood genius using worse hw to own the chuds
>>747676815I think the issue for those is kinda the same as regular oled, you won't get a great resolution, and the VERY high intensity needed for pancakes mean your duty cycle gets very high, so you get horrible persistence smear and can't run at decent refresh ratesto this day psvr2 is the smeariest vr headset ever even at minimum brightnessI get why people want oled but it's just really not made for it YET (there's good stuff on the horizon but again it's 2030+)
>>747659085I just want the controllers, let me use them as 3D manipulation thingies on my normal monitor
>>747673290Because of subpixel arrangement. It gets into tech babble quickly, so I’ll keep the explanation broad. LCD has more color emitters and there is less space between them, because many oled panels have a diamond pattern rather than a stripe. That leads to shared colors and a degradation of edge sharpness, which is perceived as more of a screen door to your brain. Newer micro oleds no longer have that issue. They are also extremely expensive and even more so to get those that emit enough light to work in a pancake lense arrangement. Those panels are cutting edge and they are still not as bright as lcd.
>>747677213That's a Linux phone, not Android chinkware.
>>747677063they used to do that for the deck (5 bucks fee), would've been nice
>buy Quest 2>use for 8 hours>play some shitty furry game with shitty models and no quality hole>fresnel halos, blur, etc>throw in closet and haven't touched sinceWhy do they keep trying to force VR? shit was a scam.
>>747677213>Ship a replacement modem free of charge upon requestThis thing has user replaceable MODEMS?
>>747669224PSVR2 doesn't have a phone SOC in it and has working eye tracking, if that's what you mean. The headset still has processors in it.
>>747677405Does that really matter? It's still $2000 (when it's not on sale) for a device with specs that would've been competitive 15 years ago.
>>747667813this guy's living in 2092874
>>747677262make sure you pre-order for the Steam Hardware Power Supply Unit, Steam Frame Ergonomic Accessories Kit, Steam Frame Accessory Replacement Kit, and Steam Frame 1TB kit!
Why the fuck don't be companies start making these headsets lightweight and connected to a puck with all the hardware inside? That solves almost every big complaint about VR. You can put a user swappable larger battery and cooling in it, you can use a more powerful system on a chip or offer more options, and you can just upgrade the puck later on and keep your headset. And if you want to use it wired, you could plug the headset directly into your PC and skip the puck. Most people end up using a retarded looking clip on external battery setup anyway to get more than a fucking hour out of it.
>>747677010The only thing it's "best" at is PCVR streaming. It's marginally more powerful for standalone gaming, but the battery life kills that use case. There are many headsets with better visuals, and better fov. Previous gen had better controller tracking.
>>747677404That explains why text looked like shit on the first QD-OLED I tried. It was great in-game but the fringing pissed me off massively. Tried every trick in the book. Looking this up I have high hopes for striped RGB OLED monitors.
>>747669246>These are Index style hand and head straps . These aren't necessaryThey're necessary. You can't even open all fingers without the strap, and finger tracking is relevant on VR.>and some will buy 3rd party alternativesI will buy 3rd party alternatives, sucks that there's still isn't any 3rd party alternatives. If I do win the raffle, I'll still have to wait for them to release.
>>747677609a puck cant carry a full pc unless its some arm piece of shit
>>747677221No it's somewhere inbetween, but its impressive what modders were able to add
>>747674047>people ruined their steam decks using 45w chargersThat's false, any PD compliant charger is safe. It was the Switch 1 that could get fucked up using anything but official chargers because it was an early adopter of USB-C and had a fucky charging protocol.
>>747670405I don't understand why they specc'd this to be a standalone-first headset. Barely anybody is going to use it as a standalone, it's an enthusiast product not targeting the casual market whatsoever.
>asymmetric controllers for no reason than to fuck over left handersdealbreaker.
>>747671928Dave the diver? Huh? Does dave the diver have VR? Wtf? It's a 2d game
VR was supposed to be game changing what happened
I've never used VR before and joined the waitlist for this. What are the most luxurious virtual reality experiences available?
>>747677760Theatre.
>>747677785>"Let someone else take the risk"Then no one did.
>>747677760You can play 2D games on a big virtual screenit's apparently very comfy, the controllers were made for that hence more buttons
>>747677576It's a niche product for tech nerds, it's would never be price competitive>specs that would've been competitive 15 years agoThose specs don't have to fight against lagdroid Java slop OS probably
>>747669246>These aren't necessary, but some people like, some hate, and some will buy 3rd party alternatives.Some people are retardedKnuckle straps should be in the box just so VR devs know you have them and don't have design the game for people who must hold onto their controllers with their pinky, which is a horrible way to play and some people play VR without the straps not knowing how natural grasping and throwing can be and how fucking nice it is to relax your open hands instead of metaphorically holding a water bottle at an amusement park for 2 hours.
>>747677682That's what I meant, for standalone stuff like the Quest and this. Make it swappable, keep the headset light, use larger batteries in the puck (I keep calling it that, don't know what else to call it). If you want to use it on your desktop you still could, either streaming for wireless or by connecting to your PC from the port the puck would normally connect. I just think a modular system works best for something like VR.
>>747677663Yeah, for traditional monitors text was the main drawback. I’ve heard that’s improved quite a bit, too, but all the first gen monitors came with the experience you had.
>>747674047Not how it works, tendie.You can plug it into a 240W charger and all is well.
>>747677903You can do this already. It's nothing new.
>>747677795one 6 year old game. thats it
>>747677592I bought a 45W Anker AC with cable for 15$ off Amazon. The one that, you know, you use to charge your phone.
>>747678032Based misunderstood genius using worse hw to own the chuds
>>747677213This thing was such a disappointment and even more for the >BUILD THE LAST FEW THINGS FROM OVERSEAS AND ASSEMBLE IT IN AMERICA SURCHARGE They should have spent money raising cash to get modern performant hardware fabbed with open principles, rather than just say >it dosn't matter if the hardware is so ancient, its OPEN you'll pay thousands for it because of that right!? Right! Purism was such a disappointment top to bottom and the huge assortment of >we'll make Android alternatives to everything so you'l get a full featured platform , and then we'll let you use Android apps in a sandbox we promisefailed for years upon years. What a fucking waste
>>747678016Yeah but VR controllers have less buttons than regular controllers, so you'd have to haul a normal controller with you
>>747659085I would have considered it if it was closer to €750 but this is just a joke.
>>747659085>Kikes still seethingI kneel Führer Gaben
>>747678092Anker ACs are not worse doe
>>747666231>I thought valve fans said...>REMEMBER WHEN YOU GUYS SAID THIS WHEN YOU BULLIED ME BACK THEN?!??>NOW I HAVE PTSD!!! APOLOGIZE TO ME RIGHT NOW!!?!
>>747659085>$700 for eye tracking and a USB wifi dongleValve fanboys will still buy this.
the charger and straps not being included is a deal breaker for me. these cost literally nothing yet they charge almost 100 for them combined.
>>747677481If I'm reading it right, it has two internal M.2 slots for the WiFi and modem modules.
>>747665481Why would you even consider buying those? They have no 6dof tracking, which is what makes VR worth it.
>>747677785for a while at the start when VR was hot and fresh, devs were too afraid of making any games where the player can move around via analog stick and I feel like it stunted the first few years it could have taken off
>>747677818>>747677903>imitating a flat screen on a VR devicewhy would you do that? legit asking, I don't get it as a non-VR gamer
>>747678458>for a while at the start when VR was hot and fresh, devs were too afraid of making any games where the player can move around via analog stickWhy tho?
>>747677609That would be functional for the tech-savvy, but let's be real, normies would hate that. They would consider the aesthetics of that terrible, they love holistic devices and hate modular ones, hence why they love Apple products so much.Also the Steam frame is kind of modular, you can pretty much detach everything from the compute unit, so it would be feasible to vuild a a different compute unit made for its housing. I don't know why you would want to do that though. The kind of thing your envisioning wouldn't really make sense until at least 8k resolution per eye at the very least. There are still things being solved before advances in optics and compute are happening at different enough rates. And with the rate that AI is sucking up all compute, optics might actually advance faster.
>selling an $1,100 VR headset when no new VR games are being developed for itJUST MAKE HL3 YOU DISGUSTING BLOB HOW HARD IS IT TO MAKE JUST ONE FUCKING GAME!?
>>747678558
>>747678492comfyyou can just lay down wherever and play with a big screenor lay in bed under your blanket watching anime in a virtual theater
>>747678592you're a retard if you don't think hl3 will be on vri bought an index for alyx and im going to buy the frame too
>>747678626You'd look like that too if you had to review the Ouya.
>>747664423If you want a wireless headset then it needs a processor. I guess they figured they might as well add RAM so that it's standalone as well.
>>747671073>gacha slopyou can turn this slop into fake 3d with a filter
for me the main selling point of it is it just werks on SteamVRQuest doesn't, it's an awful piece of shit for streaming PCVR and god forbid you want to use additional tracking devices
>£1,080
>>747667119So you're poor.
>>747678878>mfw the dumb tranimal will never ever ever EVER play VREven pigs and fruit flies will play VR before the mutt does lmao
Which VR porn games are good?
>>747661304>No ga- ACK
>>747679001vrchat
>>747678582Normalfags love Apple because the iSheep is the single well-designed Apple product.
>>747679053I don't want to interact with trannies, furries and pedophiles
>>747677665>can't open all fingersWell, the same is true for Quest 3 that has halfass finger tracking that's good enough it seems >>747677935I'd agree, but Meta conditioned everyone to not consider that a requirement so you still can't actually build it like it was an Index style strap. I can remember for years having an Index and all the Meta fags saying >UH HOW MANY GAMES ACTUALLY USE FULL FINGER TRACKING HUH HUH HUH YOU DONT NEED TO BE ABLE TO ONLY STICK OUR YOUR PINKY AND MIDDLE FINGER LIKE YOU"RE GOING TO GIVE SOMEONE THE SHOCKER WHATS THE APPLICATION FOR THATand so it goes
>>747673503It's worth it for VaM.
>>747678892No reason to upgrade my PC, even if you ignored how ass rapingly bad the prices are right now. I was playing PS1 games last night on an emulator and having way more fun than I have in stuff that came out this year.When there's a good game with high specs, I'll consider upgrading.
>>747679178Why the fuck are you still responding lmao.
>>747678541There was a whole thing about being afraid of causing motion sickness with a moving camera, so all VR games involved standing in one area and teleporting to other areas when needed
>>747678541You can get very motion sick if your movements in game aren't what you are expecting. If they first thing you play in VR uses the analog stick and you aren't a gamer familiar with them, it's vomit city, and it may be enough to put you off of VR permanently. Nowadays, we know a lot of tricks to make it more comfortable, and there are established comfort settings for those who are still more sensitive.
>>747678691no you are retarded for buying every generation of VR hardware on the hope that HL3 will be released eventually
>>747679145The Steam Frame is a PC, VR visors are output peripherals not consoles.
>>747659085It's not a bad price desu, they should make a light version with only streaming for a cheaper price.
>>747679149you are already on 4chan
>>747679363 I thought this was the PS5 thread
>>747679308>Nowadays, we know a lot of tricks to make it more comfortableSounds interesting. Can you elaborate on that?>and there are established comfort settings for those who are still more sensitive.What exactly?
>>747679245Because I had a few minutes to kill before my coffee was ready
>>747679001Skyrim
>>747659085>1000 bucks to play Beat Saberwtf
>>747674047not how power management circuits work retard, usb-c pd also adds additional safety layers.
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>>747679001anthro heat
>>747679679what is he playing?
>>747679637This is unironically the problem I'm having>have the cash, easy>but all I'd use the Frame for is Beat Saber, Subnautica, Battle Sister, and some one off stuff>basically, it would be 90% a Beat Saber machine>is that worth $1,250?IDK, personally.
>>747659085Lmao I told fags it would be even worse than the steam machine. You get what you fucking deserve.
>>747679948Sm isnt really subsidized, steam frame is
>>747679478>Sounds interesting. Can you elaborate on that?NTA but pic related is all you need
>no passthrough>no charger>$1399 freedom bucksWhy would I not just get a quest 3 for $350?
>>747680018>steam frame isNigger they're even charging $70 for fucking straps. They're focusing everything on profit.I will buy the steam frame, but I am pirating every single fucking game and buying 3rd party straps, fuck gayben
>>747680125dude, its a standalone pc with ram and ssdobviously they're not making any money from it with current memory crisis prices
>>747675703anon, I think you are retarded. Nintendo has leverage because their business model is selling you consoles, not because of their revenue itself, steam has million of users but only a tiny fraction is buying their device from valve while every nintendo customer (besides the phone outliers) is buying one or even several consoles, and each device is something they can use as leverage
>>747679840Grass
>>747678629uhh it's called a tv
>>747680125Valve makes more ever picosecond from its 30% store fee than it would in a millennia of selling velcro straps to the tiny group of VR enthusiasts who play it. Stop mouthbreathing for one day in your life.
>>747680192That should only raise the price a couple hundred dollars. These prices are for Steam fanboys just like Apple fanboys. Gabe needs more money to make more yachts.
>>747680398check out how much it cost to make a mid tier pc these daysits easily 2k+
>>747680192You can build an equivalent steam machine for the same price (form factor and everything). Since Valve is buying in bulk they should be able to get it cheaper than retail. So I have no doubt they are making a profit off of this too.
>>747667813would've laughed my head off if he crashed into something on the last frame
>>747680125>making prices up to try and push his idiot argumentNo one cares if you live or die.
>>747680521t. Purchased the $70 strap
>>747680490It's not a mid-tier PC, it's a mobile phone with a chip that costs $160. Bulk buyers also get preferential prices so the margins are even higher than you think.
>>747680495valve isnt buying large enough quantities, they pay whatever the ram manufacturers say they pay The end. If they dont no one cares.You've seen retail prices lag the actual prices hardware companies would have to pay for future shipments.
>>747680662They are definitely not paying the same price you are at microcentre.
POORFAGCOOOOOOOOOOOOPE
>>747670985>giving your money to zuckerbergyoy already lost the money your hand reached your wallet.
>>747680738Im saying they pay more than you pay at microcentre because microcentre is selling stock bought 6 months earlier at lower prices.
>>747680767>giving money to fat zuckerberggood goyim, fund gayben yet another yacht
>>747662980this but with phones
>>747680589>I'm poor, miserable, and have nothing else to do, so I'm going to lie and pretend it's 70 dollars for just the straps instead of the straps, gasket, and head strap for 60Go play Terraria again or whatever it is you poor people do
>>747680846Valve has had these in production for a year.
>>747665686>same webm every time
>>747679478Turning is the biggest motion issue in VR. The range of motion of an analog stick doesn't really match your actual head at all. The easiest fix is snap turning to increments of 45 degrees with some nearly imperceptible black frames to simulate a blink. Pretty much everyone can handle that just fine, so this is a commonly available setting. And even if you can handle full analog turning, the speed may feel bad so being able to set the speed is usually common as well. The second issue is which direction are you expecting forward, strafe left, strafe right, and backwards to be? From the direction your head is facing or the direction your body/hand is facing? It's different for different people, and even different in different games, so having that as a setting is common. It's usually best to be able to define the speed of movement, as well, but for some gameplay that isn't really possible, and it's easier to get used to unnatural speeds in body movement than unnatural speeds in head movement.Finally for the super-sensitive people, you can vignette what they see while they move, and they will be fine.
>>747680927>it's not 70, it's 60!nigger, why the fuck aren't those even fucking included in the fucking package?that shit should cost $20 max
>>747680249I don't want to install a tv over my bed and over my couch and in front of me while cooking and
>>747681095>20 >poorie with no concept of how much things costlmao. Not interested, brokie
>>747680846Actual retard.
>>747676342ram, storage and GPU prices and don't even get me started on Helium for chipset, it's only going to be worse from now on.https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/helium-prices-soar-qatar-lng-halt-exposes-fragile-supply-chain-2026-03-12/
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>>747681190>hey, I want 2000 units of ram shipped to me by q4 2026>ok, here is our memory crisis prices for that period>we dont want to pay that>ok byeWhat do you not understando
>>747679840>he
>>747681169No, actually, fuck you. It's 70€ for literally no reason. The frame price is the same in usd/eur but the straps are 10€ more expensive for (((((((reasons)))))))It's $20 max, fuck you nigger. If I do win the raffle, I will just buy 3rd party ones. This is straight up what you'd expect to see apple doing. You're almost as domesticated as applefags and nintenfags. Almost.Now buy VR games in place so we can get more of them in the future, I am pirating them all
>>747681095Each strap was baptized by Gaben himself. Fanboys are lining up to buy them.
>>747681085Thanks for your effort post. This sounds super complicated to get right for VR game devs when every person reacts so differently. I never really thought about this.
>>747681364>still buying the framelol I would only do this if I were scalping it
>>747681169I bought Quest 3 knuckle straps for less than 5€ from Temu.
>>747679363>The Steam Frame is a PCMore like a phone
>>747681524Because I am not poor and want to play VR>b-b-bbut you can't afford le 70€ straps!!!!I am not domesticated enough for that
>>747681583So buy an enthusiast OLED headset. It's around the same price range and a much better experience.
>>747681316>>747680932
>>747681651I want a pure streaming experience without cable shit. Every single reviewer claims that the wireless experience is top notch. But honestly, I might as well just wait. Some other company will just do a better fucking job at a less faggot pricetag
How did we go from Valve subsidizing the steam deck at $299 to them going maximum jew selling steam machines (consoles) without controllers and charging $90 for frame straps? Surely they are making more money than ever from the steam store and the money isn't going into gaben's yacht?
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>>747681837source?
>>747682008>Surely they are making more money than ever from the steam storeI don't think they are growing anymore. Old games on sale still sell well, but new games whether AAA or indie are in a crisis. They may be selling more new games in quantity, but those new games aren't making as much money.
>>747680070why would you use this overpriced goyslop instead of ginger tea
>>747680927I'm going to play terraria calamity infernum wrath of the gods with a 3D mod on my frame and you can't stop me
>>747682265You have no idea how manufacturing works and think valve is driving to microcentre buying up all the RAM as they make steam machines one by one.
>>747682436>my source is a 4chan postok thanks for contributing
>>747682473>didn't deny itI accept your concession.
>>747677221They've recently improved it.>Can climb up walls now>Sword and shields have actual physics>You can pick up a sword off the ground and use it as a weapon without manually equipping it
>>747677760That's to demonstrate it's battery life on low loads. Streaming the same game is probably more demanding because of the added compute of video de/compression.
>>747659085>1530 leafsnigger wtf, its literally a pair of goggles with a screen slapped on with dildo controllers.VR will always be a meme / gooner device
>>747683185>Streaming is more hardware intensive than doing all the processing on the headsetAre you retarded?
>>747671928>1000€ monitor now it all makes sense, no it doesn't
>>747683563Streaming itself is a processing load
