Not even huge AAA open world games sell that much. It's just a little gay sidescrolling platforming game, literally all you do is jump on little colored platforms while flowers speak in high-pitched voices and toddler music plays in the background.It's just so basic and barebones, I practically feel like anyone could make a game like this.Is this an untapped potential in the market? Tens of millions of people just buying basic baby jumping games?
>>747660841I enjoyed it because the levels are fun and creative, but yeah they do go way overboard on the babby tier shit. The aesthetic and themes feel decide for 4 year olds meanwhile the levels (at least of the same) are clearly challenging and targeted towards older players, and the average actual player of it is probably in their 30s...
They were counting combo deals like the snoys
This is what video games are supposed to be
>>747660841By being very fun.
>>747660841tendies are ridiculous people
>>747661129To who exactly?
It's fucking Mario, dude, it sells.NSMBUD sold 19 million (not counting the Wii U sales) and even Mariofags admit that game is bland.
>>747660841It's the best 2D Mario since NSMB Wii, possibly NSMB DS.What's the issue exactly?
>>747661604>>747661538>>747661069Why don't these retards buy any other platformers?
>>747660841shipped and/or bundled =/= soldalso nintendo consoles are extremely top-heavy but have very low attachment, everyone automatically buys the "default" games but not much more than that
>>747660841childrenyou don't see anyone talking about it online because adults aren't playing it besides a few tendie manchildren
>>747660841It pretty much looked like what the NSMB games should have been after Wii. Prettier art style, multiple playable characters other than the bros and yellow/blue Toad, improved character designs/animations, and new content concerning the enemies and locations which do wonders for expanding the setting.Did it falter in living up to expectations? Sure, you can say that but let's not pretend why no one had any valid reason to be hyped for it. Remember that this was at the end of the Switch era where not as many people grew sour with Nintendo as we had just gotten Brothership and the two RPG remakes which made them optimistic.
>>747661724>very low attachmentThe opposite actually
>>747661724>shipped and/or bundled =/= soldcope
>>74766139118 million people
>>747661717like what? sonic garbage? astro flop? indie game nobody's ever heard of?
>>747662303You don't sound like you enjoy platformers at all so why are you here shilling for this one in particular?
>>747662303Rayman Origins mogs the FUCK out of Wonder.Astro Bot is good but not 2D.Sonic is trash and has been for decades.
>>747661717>any other platformers?Such as?
>>747662447I don't like the design of Rayman or any of the other characters from his universe except for the hot fairies.
>>747662393wrong >why are you here shilling for this one in particular?when did I ever say wonder was good?
>>747660841just make a good gamethis is a good gamethat's it
>>747662449Rayman Origins, Rayman Legends, DKC1-3, DKCR, DKTF, Ori, Astro Bot, N++, Super Meat Boy, LittleBigPlanet 1+2, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Crash Bandicoot 1-3, Spyro 1-3, Wario Land
>>747662673So you could have answered your own question with Crash, do you just make stupid posts on purpose?
>>747662564But you like the design of toddler tier wonder that feels literally designed for a grade schooler from art to character design to sound to music to voice acting to constant tutorialization? Ge the fuck outta here. A grown man should be embarrassed to play Mario Wonder, in a way that the NES and SNES games are not anywhere near as cringy and childish.
>>747662864crash 4 came out 6 years ago, retard
>>747662794Most of these games are 20 years old
>>747660841There hadn't been a fully new 2D entry in like twelve years at that point, just ports and Mario Maker
>>747662939Yeah, Wonder looks good. Mario is cute.
>>747661717I do
>>747661604new soup U is better though...
>>747662447sonic mania is better than any mario game in the past 2 decades
>>747660841It's fun and has more charm than NSMB games before.
It was jusy okay, the NSMB games were better. 2d Mario really needs to change and improve.
>>747662939Don't be surprised. The youngest person I've seen self-dox themselves on /v/ was 8 years old.
>>747662794>why are people buying the latest Mario game, they should be buying these N64/PS1 gamesnigga what
>>747665985Sonic Mania is shit. Pretty looking and sounding but the stages are copy-pasted Rube Goldberg slop that plays itself, have horrible visibility and clarity, and the bossfights are incredibly obnoxious
>>747660841Mario fans are the biggest fucking subhuman goycattle slaves in existence. They are all fat fucking retarded adult.men wearing diapers and dressing like children eternally trapped thinking theyre 7 years old.
>>747660841Everybody bought it for Elephant Peach and Daisy.
It's fun, it's a game, no gay pretentious shit
>>747660841>Is this an untapped potential in the market? Tens of millions of people just buying basic baby jumping games?Yes you fucking moron. The indie scene is flooded with hardcore roguelikes, metroidvanias and precision jumping games. Wonder is an easy to play game with lots of creative interactive toys that get thrown to the player. The kind of toys that fill the game woth potential and make it so anything is possible.
>>7476608412D Mario games sell better than the 3D ones historically.People enjoy a straightforward platformer here and there, and they added a way for parents/kids to play at the same time (even character types like Yoshi that interact with other characters by allowing riding while being invincible for a super young kid)Have to think in terms beyond just core gamers and think in terms of parents/kids.
Real reason is cause Nintendo games increase in price over time, people see this as an investment to buy now and sell later
>>747666453Isn't that the game with the talking flowers that reek of I AM SILLY english localization?
>>747661872This. After years of NSMB slop this really was a breath of fresh air, and a very good game. It was maybe a little too full of disparate ideas to be super memorable in the long run, but it was worth playing.
Genuinely how can you play this game and not feel complete shame and embarrassment? My father came in when I was playing when I was the elephant transformation and he busted out laughing and just shook his head.
Mario jump high
>>747666591Are you unaware that kids like silly things?
>>747666173name a mario game with a good boss fight. you cant because boss fights in most platformers are dogshit
>>747667106Yoshi's Island, bitch.
>>747667180ironically also the only good yoshi game
>>747667106>>747667106There's a difference between a bossfight being inoffensive and a fight being actively obnoxious and detrimental. And honestly most of the Mario games DO have good bossfights, at least by platformer standards, the main complaint is they lazily reuse the koopa bros instead of more unique and interesting designs.
>>747667106Mania's stages are so fucking boring and samey. Everything just blends together, the stages play themselves, the stage just rockets you through on-rail sections then throws a troll hazard at you before you can even react, stages are so busy and cluttered and impossible to read, and the stages go on for what seems like ages. The music is great, but it's like the learned all the wrong lessons from Sonic. But then again the only Sonic game I like is 1.
>>747667034Kids don't like soilennial baby-voiced writing.
>>747667678Shit like paw patrol and bluey say otherwise, because they'll watch the shit out of that stuffIf you're talking about teenagers, then you're correct. But that's always been the case.
>>747660841
>>747660841Well if you played the game and played like the first level or one of the first I forgot exactly, the one where the flowers are singing and you still don't understand how this game sold almost 20m, then I'm afraid you have no hope of ever understanding. You lack soul.
>>747666173you're coping. mania shits hard on any mario
>>747666762lol you fucking faggot
>>747660841Have you seen how long mainline Mario games take to make nowadays? The NSMB era where they can churn new games off the SM64 engine updated to be increasingly shinier are long over.
>>747667678Do you remember what you were like as a kid? Kids laugh at all kinds of retarded things, for some kids the flower going "WHOAAAAA" falling down a hill is comedy gold
We live in a timeline where it's possible Nintendo will liberate Rayman from Ubisoft's cringe.
>>747667106ermmm like you have a head and two hands, and like you hit the hands which makes the head vulnerable.
>>747662447Rayman Origins came out like 10 years before Wonder. Are people just supposed to replay one game per genre for the rest of their lives?
the game... is funif it's not fun, why bother?
>>747666762Don't project your embarrassment about living with your parents and playing video games all day instead of getting a job on Mario. You should be just as ashamed if he walked in on you playing Command and Conquer.
it's the equivalent of a child's toy youtube channel with 10 ziggabillion views and subs
>>747661013> the levels are fun and creative,yeah not really
>>747669816yeah reallyand stop faggotspacing
>>747669678Literal toddlers watch those. Average Mario Wonder player is probably 35
>>747668691I can't think of any 90's or 00's cartoons or games with this sort of writing. I guess you can say Spongebob is kinda retarded but you're supposed to laugh at how stupid the characters are, while the smarter characters are the counterpoint. I was always into more grounded and naturalistic writing that didn't try to be silly.
>>747670154Spongebob seasons 1-3 were never like this, those seasons are still good as an adult. 4 and onwards it's basically just loud noises and lolsorandom humor/potty humor.Something like Crash, Banjo, Rayman is like S1-3 Spongebob. Wonder is like modern Spongeslop
>>747669961I said not really. It's completely forgotten about despite all those salesCompare it to Super Mario World which is still a global beloved icon of when games were actually engaging and funYou probably stopped reading because you hadn't been stimulated by a wonder flower changing the letters into dancing honking horns though
>>747660841Because it's fun
>>747670369You sound like you never actually played it and downloaded your opinion from some retard on YouTube
>>747670507it's gimmicky, forced fun.
>>747670540I played it. It's like drinking water or something. It's forgettableI barely remember any of the wonder flowers, just I don[t remember any of the thousands of reels or tiktoks I've scrolled throughIt's instaslop for the attention fried
>>747670154You're overthinking it. Young kids (ie. 4-8) aren't laughing at Squidward because what he's saying is profound, they're laughing at him because he has a nasally voice and a big nose and it sounds funny when he gets mad. A lot of cartoons are funny because the characters say and do silly things ("Dexter's a cookie!") that were repeated on the playground because they were funny to say and imitate.
>>747661013That’s why nabbit is there, to have an easy mode without an actual easy mode.
>>747670796And SMB3 or World is memorable?
>forced funDoesn't even deserve a (You).
>>747670923of course
>>747670892Having a baby-mode exclusive character isn't a bad idea but what kid wants to play as Nabbit? Making him Baby Mario or something would've made more sense.
>>747670995Only because you played them when you were 5 years old for hundreds of hours
>>747660841Yes, that's why i only play AAA Playstation First-Party games!!!!
>>747671175its objectively true, I was a teenager acutally, but Super Mario World is iconic and wonder is forgotten already
>>747660841Tendies see one of any: Mario, Zelda, Pokémon and they buy. They don't buy anything else though. Astrobot won GOTY and didn't sell half, it's all about the tendie bubble
>>747671331Only because you are a manchild with nostalgia. You would not remember World if you played it today
>>747671339AstroBot is good but Wonder still mogs it.
>funslop
>>747671339I'd buy Astro Bot if Sony regularly released exclusives like it for PS5, but they haven't released a system with a library that interested me since the PS2
>>747660841The same way two terrible Illumination movies (which are bad even by Illumination standards) made over a billion dollars.
>>747671339Says more about snoys that they're not interested in what is supposedly one of the best games in their system because it's a platformer.
>>747671507no lol
>>747671339astrobot is basically mario without the recognition. its probably as popular as it and mario should be.
> New 2D Mario> They made the stages a bit better than usual by giving each one a fun special one time identity> HOWAre you retarded OP?>>747661717Because almost none of them are better and Mario is mid at best, never bad. The only other "recent" platformer that comes to mind is Celeste, and that was a precision platformer
Mario Wonder is too easy to be interesting for people over 12 years old.But it's 2D Mario. It's the game moms and dads will buy whenever they want to get a game for their kids.
>>747670892>to have an easy mode without an actual easy mode.That's funny because the Switch 2 DLC added an easy mode anyway.
>>747667106SMB3 bowser fight was pretty great to the point Spelunky copied the design 20 years later
>>747660841It is Nintendo. Nintendo can sell anything.
>>747660841Looks good, sounds good. If you can't appreciate platfaggers, then you don't actually like videogames btw.
>>747672823>Looks good, sounds good.Seriously? Only if you're 5
>>747670359Season 4 is still a class above 5 and on, and only has a handful of weak episodes
>>747667106The Morton fight in the Mario Wonder Switch 2 DLC is pretty good, all of them are but I really liked that one
>>747667106all of bosses in the wonder DLC
>>747660841>Is this an untapped potential in the market?Platform games that focus on gameplay with decent controls? Yes, there's a massive gap in the market. Especially ones that aren't a metaphor for depression or "the trans experience".Mario is about hoppin' 'n' boppin, collecting coins, and exploration - no hidden agendas.
i miss when 1ups, coins, powerups used to feel like amazing lifelines. nintendo's modern design renders them completely pointless. They just exist as part of the level because its a mario game and thats part of the set dressing.
>>747676418Coins still feel good to collect cause they're shiny and gold and make number go up
>>747660841Wonder actually did kind of bad by 2D Mario standards. Despite 3D Mario being the big deal that gets all the attention, 2D Mario has quietly matched or did better than the corresponding 3D Mario. NSMB? Outsold Galaxy. NSMB Wii? Outsold Galaxy 2 (and Galaxy 1). NSMB 2? Outsold 3D Land. NSMBU? Matched 3D World on Wii U but NSMBU + Deluxe outside 3D World + 3D World Switch port. Wonder did way worse than Odyssey.
>>7476608412D Mario is an infinite money cheat code. Simple gameplay, recognisable brand. Perfect first video game to give to your retarded kid, and then people keep buying them because it's like the good ol days.
>>747678107True, but Odyssey came out first this time. Every other example you listed (minus NSMB/Galaxy) was dependent on 2D Mario releasing first and 3D Mario trailing behind.
