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Did they not learn their lesson with Dragonflight's failed marketing?
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Bears are just like that sometimes though
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>>747667634
>animals can be so heckin quirk chungus guys
>lets ruin all fantasy media to resemble this
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why do you guys want to fuck bears so much
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WoW died a decade ago
post more bears
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Why would they deliberately piss off the very people they were trying to win back? Like intentionally false advertising just for fun? When money is on the line? Weird take. It's far more likely that this is their normal and we can continue to expect more WoW made for women.
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>>747667494
look on the bright side at least you can complain about your gay game
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>>747667494
basically there are a LOT of quirk chungus women at Blizzard and this was probably their input
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>>747667850
Just the way it is bro
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>>747667634
Yeah but the bear went full dog in the cinematic, like absurdly so
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>>747667494
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>>747667494
Classic has been dead since December 2019 when they began making changes to no changes. Classic was perfect for a few months though. Then it ended and trannies and retail took over. Blizzard doesn't understand no changes. All they understand is cash apps and disney trannies.
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>>747668187
Sometimes they just be like that
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>>747668087
Bears are very cute, sometimes it's hard to imagine those creatures can give you a very painful and excruciating end as it removes chunks of flesh from your body while pinning your body.
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>>747667494
Dragonflight turned around the bfa shadowlands subscription cratering lowtbhkirkthoughbeituinely
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imagine being such a loser that this bothers you
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>>747668648
Because you think like a woman with emotions, not a man. You have been feminized like a faggot that you don't recognize true danger like your ancestors. Man the fuck up faggot.
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>>747668825
Yeah. This is me btw.
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>>747668825
you're the one acting emotional getting pissed off over a bear lmao
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>>747668187
tbf it's a domesticated animal not a wild bear, the dwarf has tamed him
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>>747667494
>LOL ur soooooo mad about this right? right?? ... RIGHT???
yeah, super mad
unlinke blooelves, that shit's sick, I love them and I think it's an incredible addition to the setting, completely fitting the fundamental "vanilla" values of keeping shit simple and grounded
but this bear acting retarded? yeah, I'm mad
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>>747668810
Keep going, I'm sure this marketing technique will work anon
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listen bros, just let go.
embrace gw3 as the last mmorpg ride of our lifetime and then call it a day and move on to sim racing
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>>747667994
Narcissism is a common quality in both marketing and executive circles, it neatly protects against both social pressure and guilt without actually requiring you make good decisions.
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>>747668187
WoW Forever glazers are furries, gays and women bro, this is what they want.
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>>747668638
look at the covered safe horny girl boss warrior on the right, the west has fallen
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>>747667850
>all fantasy
when you exaggerate things like this you make your movement and ideology look dumb and unserious
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>>747669384
Too much cleavage for you to shitpost my guy, try again faggot
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>>747668992
you are a cocksucker. You fags always come here saying words like "cute" when you would have been bullied 20 years ago for even using that word. Boomers were right about your generation. You are soft and weak.
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>>747669482
>your movement and ideology
Are you retarded, I'm a liberal man that still wants masculine media, delete your embarrassing post
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>>747668974
Why do people still pretend its not women that are the biggest influence on men not showing emotion. You learn very early on in dating, women hate men acting like a crybaby.
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>>747668992
>surely acting like a smarmy disingenuous faggot will get classic players to play wow forever
Interesting strat!
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>>747669537
Your anger and schizo babble is cute!!!! (≧▽≦)
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>>747669141
to be tamed implies it was a wild animal, not domesticated
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>>747668385
>>747668495
Same artist btw.
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>>747669727
Imagine having this saved you fucking loser lmao, what are you pirate software for bears?
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Guys, male or female nightelf rogue? Which has the cooler animations?
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>>747668385
>>747668495
>>747668638
Warcraft was always cartoony but it had some edge to it. The characters looked very comic book-ish

Only after Legion they went full Pixar/Dreamworks and everything became cute, soft and harmless
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>>747667494
We're doing bear comedy
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>>747669537
>You are soft and weak.
You are tough and strong which is why you are sperging out about a videogame from 22 years ago not being exactly how you want it to be on a tranime incel forum.
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>>747669795
Please delete this, it makes my argument look bad
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Someone post the one webm of the bear getting hit in the balls and instantly losing all HP.
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>>747669835
>everything became cute, soft and harmless
This guy appears in the same cinematic as the bear prancing about in the fields of grass.
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>>747667494
>"That looked like a shitty disney movie"
>UR SO OWNED YAAAAS YAAAAS
Wtf?
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>>747669902
You faggots have to be told like it is. You have lived in your safe spaces for too long and you sit here shilling DEI slop and then act offended when someone has the balls to call you a fag.
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>>747669795
>>747669913
>Please delete this, it makes my argument look bad
Not the anon posting metzen, but it doesn't, metzen has always been a faggot, in the 90's he was tasked to make specific art and in the 00's he had more freedom to be a faggot, which is why Thrall turned out so gay.

Metzen had nothing to do with the soul of Warcraft, it was Samwise Didier and Bill Roper.
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>>747670079
You tell them sister.
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>>747669537
Which generation
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>Be Blizzard
>Ignore the private server that actually kept your dead game alive for a decade out of pure passion
>Instead, invite a bunch of clown streamers
> Use those idiots and their deformed view of the game just to market to retail fags, and zooms zooms get a boner.

It's literally just retail trash wrapped in a nostalgia filter. Same metric-driven, time-gated garbage that killed the game in the first place. Designed to bait old players into resubbing. The sad part? It will work.
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>>747670016
So you are a pirate software for bears faggot lolol, Is your fursona a big fat gay bear bud? Sounds like the WoW Forever audience
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>>747670113
>samwise didier
Let's see what kind of art does he make nowadays now that he's free from Blizzard's shackles.
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>>747670018
That's probably the first manly character we have seen in a cinematic since Grom in 2014

Even the MoP cinematic with the wacky cartoon panda fighting around is more masculine that modern WoW
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the actual real issue with this trailer was the fucking shit music
BAD
fucking overwatch/disney crap
even the staunchest wow haters can't hate on old wow music
the music in this trailer suck balls
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>>747667494
cute and friendly? more like fake and gay
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>>747667494
The wow team has been completely compromised there is no turning back from this disneyfication
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>>747670140
that's not gonna work gay boy, no amount of ironic gay bullying is going to make straight men play WoW Forever
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>>747670176
millennials and zoomers, your generation
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>>747670305
Is your period over or are you still going?
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>>747670113
>Samwise Didier
You mean the guy that created the Pandaren race?
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>>747669564
You don't need masculine media, you need to masculine yourself instead of pretending to be through a avatar
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>>747670305
But I'm just saying you are strong and independent? It's a compliment sis.
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>>747670380
If you are male and still playing WoW, you are not masculine. That ship sailed over 10 years ago.
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What the fuck even is this thread.
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I haven't played retail in years, what is the most dark thing they have done if at all recently? Shadowlands despite being the expansion about death felt nothing of that. Like the corpses hanging outside scarlet monastery kinda dark
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>>747669653
Showing emotions is not the same as being a crybaby.
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>>747670353
>>747670448
i encourage this kind of talk, please, keep going, let the classic players see you lmao
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>>747670528
A guy getting mad at bears.
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>>747667494
There's this and also "Blizzard's writing was always shit" as a tacit denial that the writing has taken a significant nosedive over the years.
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>>747670528
engagement bait.
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>>747667494
The name Warcraft is unfortunate.
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>Brownie is desperately trying to get attention
>33 of 72 replies are made by him
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>>747670528
wow gays are upset they are being made fun of
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>>747670379
Pandaren are a kino adition to WC3, their role was appropiate and one and done
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>>747670528
SHUT UP PUSSY
BEARS
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>>747667850
Are you ok?
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>>747670791
It was Chris Metzen that said that he regretted it being called Warcraft. Holly Longdale, the current executive producer for World of Warcraft, disagrees with him.
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>>747670703
Shut up. I'm the toddler and u are Shadow the hodgehead in this situation.
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>>747667494
>ai response
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>>747670631
It is to women. Even when a strong man breaks down under immense pressure he loses respect in his women's eyes.
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>>747668385
>>747668495
Art like this was always cringe and it's a good thing we left it behind. Pure horde negroid worship.
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how do you manage to butcher an IP called "Warcraft" and not have any war in it
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>>747667634
>one of the most cuddly and cute looking animals on the planet, so muh so that millions of dolls are made of them for kids each year
>incredibly vicious and can and will maul you to death
Why? Its such a tease.
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>>747671061
>gay loser WoW Forever player thinks he's tough
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>>747670703
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>>747670749
xataltatata is one of the least intimidating villains of all wow ever
sylvanas burning the fag elve tree and tyrande going all bitchy was more impactful, that whever this granny ever did, but somehow we have to buy into the "all elves are one elve and helping elves" because of her
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>>747671194
the current wow developers hate everything that came before it, it's why one of the major things they did was fire the entire lore team
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Enough about ursines. Let's change gear to mobface girls instead.
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>>747669416
cute!!
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>>747669824
>Which has the cooler animations
Male
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>>747671061
Yeah, you're definitely a toddler.
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>>747670243
>Even the MoP cinematic with the wacky cartoon panda fighting around is more masculine that modern WoW
Nigga watch it right now, the male human is a 2m tall giga with wrists as thick as a child's torso and the orc's an orc. Chen also doesn't look cute and cuddly there at all, it was serious even back then.
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>>747671402
>t.
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>>747670990
>Holly Longdale, the current executive producer for World of Warcraft, disagrees with him.
Holly Longdale has no thoughts on anything, the Blizzcon announcement was embarrassing, so was her gencon announcement
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>>747671226
U wanna go wiboy?
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>>747671459
Goo goo
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>>747671194
Women.
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>>747667494
OMG THE BEAR IS SUCH A QUIRK CHUNGUS
a heckin borkin pupper
pet the doggo!
i've only known the floofwoof for half a day and if something were to happen to him, i'd kill everyone and then myself!!
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>>747667494
>be mad! be mad and upset!
i haven't purchased anything from your company in eight years.
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Let's talk about builds. Tell me how trash this is, I wanna go melee pet hunter. Dropping the mongoose bleed and trap talents for a frenzy chance and hawks since hawks can be used in melee combat. Any improvements?
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>>747670271
Music in retail has been shit for awhile, makes sense that the music in WoW Forever would be the same.

It's just generic.
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You may not like it. But this is what peak /v/ looks like.
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Blizzdrones should be castrated
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>>747667494
This was literally me playing hunter on classic so idk what you mean
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>>747671547
It's always been embarassing, the only difference is that this time it's a woman who touches herself while looking at pictures of elves instead of a man who touches himself while looking at pictures of elves.
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>>747671749
It's crazy how much of a fall into irrelevancy Blizzard has become
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>>747667850
Performative anger is so tiresome. You sound like a retard.
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>>747671170
they're bad guys
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>>747672004
That doesn't work on me, try again with a different tactic
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>>747668575
That's a fucking cute bear
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>>747672120
Oh I'm not trying to debate you, I'm just calling you retarded.
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>>747672194
I'm not debating either, try again, different shame tactic, come on lil guy you can do it
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>>747672047
watch this stay up for half a day.
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>>747672268
nta but you sound cringe asf rn just thought you should know
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>>747672268
Retard
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>>747672313
That one doesn't work on me either
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>>747667494
I mean you have Metzen saying he regrets calling it WARcraft because war is a violent word.
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>>747672364
>anon stated, hands shaking, eyes misty, and knees weak while snot ran down his upper lip
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>>747672336
Faggot

See how much minimizing another persons argument affects them?
Not a whole lot
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>>747667634
I would trade 1 million indians for 1 million bears
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>>747670614
Corpses hanging isnt dark man
BFA had a kid crying in front of his mom who was impaled against a wall and dead
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>>747672047
>offmodel slop
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>>747672435
Inventing fantasies about another user is
>makes you sound cringe asf rn just thought you should know
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>>747672519
>his fingers ran with sweat, digits slipping off his keyboard while he typed out his response
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>>747672456
I would trade 1 million bears for 20 billion moids
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>>747667494
WoW is fucking shit and has been ruined, factually having been taken away from people.
Dwarves enjoying nature with the mysticism of someone who lives underground is based and needs to be done more often.
This cunt (OP, who reposted their own image for attention) doesn't actually play the game and is a predator trying to push gay culture war aimlessly.

There, that's all of the points that needed to be made.
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>>747671793
Nobody knows because nobody has played it and nobody will be able to play it to 60 until Nov 4 since the beta is capped to 30.
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>>747672578
K-keep going...
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>>747672495
yes.
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I like how people post metzens artwork like he isn't the biggest metrosexual faggot amongst millions
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>>747672687
Alright. Well, jerk off to it responsibly.
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>>747672656
>anon pulled in a ragged breath as his blood ran hot, "maybe i should tell him that i accept his concession next...?" he thought to himself as he swallowed down his own spit in an audible gulp while his mouse hovered over submit. "no... that'd make me look cringe..." he conceded regretfully.
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>>747671486
it was a great vanilla style trailer without a named capeshit villain, then they made the shit warcraft movie a few years later where humans are 1/3 the size of orcs
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>>747672705
I get that anon's rationale, it's showing the tone of 90's Warcraft, which was obviously heavily inspired by Warhammer before Games Workshop pulled out their investment in the game production.

But yeah, metzen is a huge faggot and is responsible for most of the gay shit in WoW
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>>747672705
he’s a talentless feminist kike that wouldn’t have the job if he wasn’t jewish
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>>747672759
thanks for the advice, carradine.
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>>747667494
hey yeah what he hell why aren't they having sex?
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>>747672948
I can't believe he got stunlocked by an 8 year old asking why do dragon's not wear regular clothes, what a retard
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there are going to be 8 quintillion undead paladins so its gonna be hell when i try to roll my undead priest that i always play
i wonder what other new race class combos we will get
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Blizzard, doesn't have to listen to fans because they are whiny clingy dipshits that will never be happy no matter what concessions you make for them. Also by appealing to every single demographic instead of gamers, they can blame an unpleasible fanbase. Blame the player, not the game is their policy
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>>747667494
It has been taken away from me though which is precisely why I won’t play this.
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>>747668187
What we classify as dog behaviours aren't unique to dogs. All animals engage in play, and for a lot of mammals this involves rolling, wrestling, exposing their bellies, panting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpgCSTXtS_8

The reason we attribute it solely to dogs is that we've lobotomized their species to a sufficient degree where they feel comfortable in frequently engaging in it in the presence of humans.
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>>747667494
even innocent dwarves get humiliated... woke devs destroyed all Western games... i’m delighted they can’t touch Asian games.. best news
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>>747667494
The dev team is just gay and retarded so no matter what they do or what community feedback you give them everything they touch will also be gay and retarded.
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>>747667494
They can't create.
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>>747673214
gnome priest, dwarf shaman, human hunter, orc mage, troll warlock, undead paladin, thats all (for now)
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>>747669898
autism bear
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>>747672037
Jesus Christ its Jason Bearn
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metzen is a gigafag and is personally responsible for every retcon and rewrite about the Horde dindu nuffin and the Alliance are the real bad guys for refusing to be invaded by murderous orcs and demons. also, blue futa goats with space lasers?
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>>747672705
Probably because the industry wasn't pozzed, so when he went and gave giant pierced nipples to Thrall someone went and told him to tone it down for posters.
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>>747670016
Why did he doed it?
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>>747668187
They're the same suborder of species, it's like saying ducks act like chickens sometimes.
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>>747673248
>Blizzard, doesn't have to listen to fans
I mean I also don't have to ever buy from them again
The younger gens don't really seem to like Blizzard, so they are either stuck with guys like me, or the people who that just eat whatever shit they put out will eventually just die out.
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>>747668648
Bears are just big dogs, just a lot harder and less practical to domesticate, so its not really a worthwhile endeavor
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>>747669416
>The universe is cruel and testing and it's the survival of the fittest out here.
>Except for all the animals like pandas who the uncaring universe just sort of gave ludicrous natural selection passes for tens of thousands of years.
I think the universe just hates us and eucalyptus plants. Fair really.
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>>747671198
>most cuddly and cute looking animals on the planet, so muh so that millions of dolls are made of them
That's not why teddy bears were created, they were made by a jew after hw saw a way to profit off a political propaganda cartoon
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>>747673340
>no dwarf mage
S A D
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>>747668187
Have you never seen a domesticated bear on TV or youtube? They act EXACTLY like dogs.
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>>747673574
They said that they might add more in the future, but idk, I think shamans work better for dwarves because they're far less bookish. Gnome priest is the real lore butchery.
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>>747673553
>Jews invented the Teddy Bear
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I think people are being silly complaining about the bear not being super serious or the dwarf looking slightly different. The part that bugs me is focusing on just the Dwarf hunter like he's the main character of vanilla when the point of the original trailer was showing a bunch of different races and classes.
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>>747669498
Don’t you ever get sick of getting caught?
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>>747673651
why are we making that the main theme of the trailer to Warcraft?
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>>747667494
Has the antagonize the people you're selling your game to been a successful strategy? Why would you want to invite this? Does the modern audience purchase games over posts like this?
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>>747673698
Jews also invented Christmas (a Jew wrote Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer) and so many other things.
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>>747670528
bears
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>>747673340
Every race should be able to play every class. The only thing preventing this is fantasy racism and stereotypes made by chuds like Tolkien who thought orcs were inherently evil and couldn’t do the same things as humans etc.
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>>747673734
Dark woke trolling tactics don't actually work
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>>747673823
beets
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>>747673537
Other way round. All extant animals are the result of immense cruelty pereptrated artificially by humans. Bears would not have evolved or survived the way they were without having had endured cruel selection, especially artificial selection by us.
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>>747667859
I like nerdy shut in bears...
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>>747673782
Did they write Frosty the Snowman?
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>>747673879
well yeah, you are the target audience for wow forever
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let's just make some things clear
1. the bear looked retarded in the cinematic
2. blue elves look retarded in the game and shouldn't exist
3. the blue elf in the cinematic owes me sex daily for the next 40 years
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>>747672407
I kind of want to hear the sellout squad try to tell us what they wish they could've called it instead.
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>>747673553
And they only caught on and are sold to this day because they're cute. Why are political autists all such raging pedants?
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>>747673553
>>747673698
>Morris Michtom saw the Berryman drawing of Roosevelt and was inspired to create a teddy bear.
>Michtom was born into a Jewish family on September 12, 1869, and immigrated to New York in 1887
Can't have shit anymore
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Wasted slot
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>>747673913
The data is inconclusive.
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I'm not paying a sub for the dogshit that WoW has become. No nagas, no ogres, no gnolls, no murlocs, no furbolgs, they didn't add any of the races they could've gone with. Instead they recolored Blood Elves to blue and made them have a gay name like Skyborne. Nobody wants to play that shit, much less pay an extra $30 for it.
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>>747673835
Khadgar's wheelchair is such a culmination of everything wrong with WoW's current developer team.
>extremely powerful wizard man
>loses the ability to walk, okay fine
>is powerful enough to conjure any kind of contraption to help with this
>floating cloud, spider legs, magical exoskeleton
>could also just permanently hover, is likely powerful enough to do that too
>nope
>rackety wheelchair
It's such an obvious attempt at inclusivity for disabled people and I can't imagine people in wheelchairs with any sense of pride feels anything but disgust at this.
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>>747674054
Find Treasure is actually really good because a lot of quest containers were flagged as "treasure chests" and showed up on the minimap.
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>>747673782
A Jew told the French clergy about the blasphemy in the Talmud and then King Louis went and burned all the Talmuds he could find and got canonized as Saint-Louis and this is why Jews in America want to topple his statues and rename cities and streets named after him.
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>>747674067
But you have to purchase WoW Forever, otherwise they will never make Classic+
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>>747674054
They should've buffed it to give bonus treasure, or turned it into a pseudo-profession where you go around and can find digsites to excavate.
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>>747673871
Oh then it's based keep doing it lets make a bear with a pug face and bone problems that'll be funny.
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>>747674187
You can at least keep it on at the same time as other tracking abilities now I guess
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>>747673721
He's just a useful literary and visual metaphor because in the original trailer he was returning home, but now he decides to wander and explore never-before seen places far from home, a metaphor for the concept and the theme behind the design WoW Eternal.

Whoever conceives these trailers for Blizzard are storytelling masters.
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>wake up at 4:30am
>get ready for work
>work 10 hours
>come home
>play wow forever
>have a night of fun with my friends
>go to bed knowing I had a fulfilling day
what will my /v/ros be doing when wow forever launches?
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>>747672456
I once read a piece by an Indian man who said that when he arrived in England, one of the things that impressed him most was how much animals trusted humans. He said that in India there is zero empathy for wild animals. Children mistreat and rape them whenever they get the chance, and that’s why they’re extremely aggressive toward humans.
Even the animals hate Indians.

Once, an elephant killed an Indian woman, and afterward it showed up at her funeral and began attacking her coffin just to make sure she was dead.
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>>747673967
No, WoW fucking blows. I'd rather play Wizardry. Unfortunately most shut in bears have shit taste so I don't ever click with them.
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>>747673721
>like he's the main character of vanilla
I mean...
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>>747674117
wow developers are just completely out of touch on everything, people think it's malicious, i think it's just HR running the dev team of incompetent college hires
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>>747674264
I'm gonna wait and see, I think the stuff they've shown so far has been more good than bad, I have some issues and I think the $30 price tag for one playable race is retarded.
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Sorry Orcfags, the rape and pillaging ends NOW
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>>747674307
>and then everyone stood up and clapped
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>>747674264
playing ocarina of time remake, dragons dogma 2 dark arisen, and gta6 instead
i haven't decided on call of duty yet
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>>747673553
>teddy bears are jewish!
Wew
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>>747674264
Jerking off to blue elf bitch.
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>>747674365
That's clearly a different dwarf though, and he's off in the corner like some supporting actor. Generic night elf lady is the main character of WoW.
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>>747673782
"Christmas" was originally European pagans celebrating winter solstice, that's why there are stuff like ever greens and mistletoes and shit. Then they became Christian and just put them together with the birth of Jesus and it worked just fine. Then the jews came along and took over culture in America, so now almost every single fucking """traditional""" Christmas song is written by a jew, Santa Caus is a nigger, and people trample each other in shopping malls over black friday sales
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>>747674427
Regarding animals being aggressive because they are mistreated and raped by Indians:
https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/

About the elephant that went to the funeral to make sure the woman was dead:
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/elephant-kills-indian-woman-and-returns-to-her-funeral-to-attack-her-corpse
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>>747674142
Search engines, addons and even the quest helper(its an option in forever)in that case far surpass it. The only useful thing it does it let you know its there at that moment and what does it help you get? 1 lesser potion, 2 silver, a random green, bread and 6 linen cloth, then as the zones go on there are less and less chest until there are none in the final zones of the game.

It may aswell be an empty slot.
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>>747667494
>Dragonflight's failed marketing?
You mean the literal renaissance after SL? Retarded much?
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>>747673879
Plz be in London...
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>>747674802
>Search engines, addons and even the quest helper(its an option in forever)in that case far surpass it.
That's all gay and retarded though.
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>>747674810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOUnAHdTEWQ
Yeah no, they took all of these down, it was a failed marketing campaign
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>>747674810
then why are they abandoning retail?
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>>747674802
hey retard the point of forever is to give players a sense of exploration and discovery. obviously its up to the player but I wouldn't expect a ADHD zoomer to understand that. make sure you open loot boxes every 15 minutes!!!
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It's not "just a bear", it's a massive red flag for the art direction, narration and general design for the game.
We've been down this path before, we know where it leads, in fact it's one of the reasons classic is a thing in the first place.
And despite this you're still minimizing it, fuck you
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>>747671170
hey i don't know if you got it, but the lumbering savage wearing a skull and cutting people's heads off is not intended to be someone you like
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>>747675051
But he's cool
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None of those pop christmas songs written by jewish people are traditional or the best ones anyway. Rudolph the red nose reindeer is one of the most inane melodies I've ever heard and I don't associate it with Christmas very much. I'm not being antisemitic either, Jingle Bells is equally inane and dumb to me and that guy was a white Christian.

No, the best christmas melodies are always the pagan/traditional/classical ones. Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker has like 5 or so melodies I associate more deeply with Christmas.
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>>747675042
they don't care, they are gay, they are retarded, and they will never stop playing wow despite how awful it's become
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>>747674054
Dwarf rogues can track the lockboxes in areas where they are to more quickly upgrade their lockpicking.
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>>747675146
And what of good Mariah Carey?
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>>747671876
>Guy who lives in an eternally snowy area wanders in to a green, grassy field
>Finds a strange flower
>Picks it and looks at it like "tf is this?"
>There's no immediate danger so he lets his pet fuck around with the magic wiso
>This is bad now
>When the entire cinematic is about ADVENTURE and REDISCOVERY
You guys are fucking retards
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>>747675146
I like the Irish one that has faggot in it because sometimes they censor it sometimes they don't but it's weird it's playing at all in <retail/hospitality area of choice> when it's not a remotely happy or positive song anyway.
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>>747675334
I don't want to rediscover WoW Retail, which is what WoW Forever is
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>>747667494
i genuinely hope WW3 happens because watching all of these disgusting people have their closeted world view shattered in the blood and mud of trench warfare with drones zapping them every hour on the other will be the only possible way i will die happy.
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>>747667494
Oh look it's the latest iteration of wow ((classic)), it's not like we already had ten of these during the last couple years. How much of a braindead npc does one have to be to still put up with this shit?
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>>747675334
>I think it's fine SO YOU ARE WRONG
That's your opinion, I thought it looked weird.
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>>747670463
h-hobagi nooo!
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>>747675042
>it's a massive red flag for the art direction, narration and general design for the game
Re-exploring the World of Warcraft circa the early 2000's?
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>/v/ losing it over WoW Forever
You guys are living in a world that doesn't exist. Nobody wants Pvp anymore, nobody wants warfare. Undead Paladins are symbolic of that, the final racist fascist class is being diverisfied and inclusive to the Undead that Paladins used to LARP as crusading against. And now they can't do that, as the Undead are included. Nobody wants a racist World of Warcraft, nobody even wants "War"craft. We are rediscovering WoW on our terms, and /v/ just isn't part of that any longer.
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>>747675473
>people who have a different opinion than me should be killed!
So much for the tolerant 4channer...
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>>747667494
this is just ragebait
dwarves being all druidic and shit is an old ass trope, older than that poster for sure
you'd see this in a 90s/early 00s rpg or might and magic-like
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>>747675486
OOOO GOOOOOOOOOLD! ITS GOOOOOOOOOOLD! HEHEHEUUOOHOHOHOH GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD!
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>>747675509
These rats honestly think they can confuse people into buying garbage like WoW Forever.
Any classic player with eyes can see this is a huge departure from what any of us wanted
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>>747675420
Then stay in your era server or private server, broke ass brownoid

>>747675509
You're stupid. Themes and such.
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>>747675602
why should i believe in tolerance when nobody is tolerant? tolerance is what leftists tell to people so they can make them docile and control them.
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>>747675367
Fairytale in new york. It even impressed Christy Moore when he heard it for the first time. But since I'm much more familiar with traditional irish/celtic melodies that that song hearkens to I prefer the og stuff to it.
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>>747667494
>*admits that it's shit and doesn't actually fit the universe*
>"HA! TAKE THAT CHUDS!"
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>>747675648
>politics out of nowhere
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>>747667634
That's not the fucking point though, is it?
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>>747675569
You're describing retail.
The entire point of this version is to go back thoughbiet
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>>747675698
lets see how long your wholesome chungus fur baby faggot shit survives 24 hours into ww3.
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>>747675627
>>747675715
It's not for you, faggot. #nochanges niggers already got their game.

This is NEW vanilla.
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>>747675630
Oh you're actually just genuinely retarded.
Enjoy that.
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>>747675698
>my gay shit in your media isn't politics
Lol, lmao
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>>747675760
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>>747675334
Rediscover his sexuality
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>tfw returning to camp after a long circuit of picking flowers to craft up some potions and shoot the shit with people hanging out there
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Collectors editions already sold out btw.

>>747675817
You're literally Slavic or indonesian
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>>747671459
Dude you're getting your ass kicked by a toddler and everyone's clapping lmao
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>>747675846
thats funny considering even a video game makes you shit and piss in fear. now imagine a drone blowing your legs off
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>>747675794
No it's not, it's called "Forever" not "NEW vanilla"
It's made for classic players and also to cash grab retail players.
It's fairly obvious.
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>>747675918
>t.
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>>747675885
How many of those did they make.
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>>747675794
We wanted the same thing as OSRS, the community had to UNANIMOUSLY vote on what to add in next.
Blizzard threw out the majority answers in the survey and just gave us retail garbage.
We had SoD for the experiment, Classic+ wasn't supposed to be an experiment.

Shan't be playing.
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>>747676019
you get offended by pvp in a video game and think that world of warcraft should be able to gay sex with animals and you report people who dont agree, then call people nazis. just imagine you crawling without legs crying into the mud as your world view collapses, and you are bleeding out begging someone to save you but nobody is coming. i cant wait for ww3.
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>>747668530
AI slop
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>>747670239
Anon, the true redpill that all the people bitching and moaning about Blizzard have to swallow is that MOST of the people working on Vanilla WoW stayed in the study for decades, with the majority of those still at the studio right now.
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>>747676087
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Don't know why the retail retards are pretending they will be playing this game in 2 months.
They wont be, it's the same every time.
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>>747674970
the point of forever is to trick you retard blizzdrones into paying for a 20 year old game for the 5th+ fucking time lmao
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>>747675884
>tfw returning to camp
not the same camp, you'll be sharded
>and shoot the shit with people hanging out there
and then get chat banned by their ai
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>>747676087
For someone who hates fags and penises you sure talk about them a lot
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To be honest Warcraft hasn’t been the same since 3. You all ate it up but the signs of feminism were already there.
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>>747676137
edgy is you bitching about people wanting to enjoy how wow used to be with gritty combat lore and not fucking homosexual zoophilia. i cant wait to see fpvs of western leftists trying to shove their intestines back in their blown out stomachs from a large shell wedged in your guts
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>>747674741
what the fuck I thought they venerated animals and saw them as holy
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>>747676053
"We"?

And what did "we" want?
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>>747669801
Shut the fuck up bitch. What are you an insecure teenager
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>>747675286
Mind virus tier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPsgOQpTFnw
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Russians getting pressed about niller when they just play some retarded jank as pserver anyways will always be funny.
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>>747676223
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>>747676145
They are doing it to anger classic players, they know no classic player is happy with this, so they are claiming ownership of wow forever
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>>747674117
>>747674383
On the other hand they made him a conventionally handsome man with grey hair, instead of someone being cursed to be an old decrepit wizard.
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>>747676298
kek
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>he actually was Slavic
KEK every fucking time
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>>747676053
You're arguing with a retail fomo hopper, they will be gone soon.
I hope they don't have community polls actually, the classic+ polls only showed that retail players were willing to go out of their way to spoil any fun anyone was having "without them"
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>>747668648
Stop riling up the femanons, their wet pussies smell like shit
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>>747676274
The classic community agreed on majority agreement changes or nothing.
Don't like it? Shan't be playing. Dead on arrival.
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>>747674005
Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in the Tolkien mythos?
>Noldor
>Vanyar
>Teleri
>Sindar
>Nandor
>Falmari
>Avari
And so on and so forth. And now there are Moriquendi too?
I was under the impression from The Lord of the Rings that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747673835
>Tolkien who thought orcs were inherently evil and couldn’t do the same things as humans etc.
He never wrote that anywhere in his books, and in letters he wrote that the orcs could have been redeemed. He was a devout Catholic and it showed in his writing.
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>>747676441
You're on an anonymous image board.
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>>747673428
>Mission imbearisble
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>>747676320
lol typical retard cant say shit just post the same 5 memes over and over again because youre a piece of shit coward with no integritry. fucking faggot queer retard who thinks WoW should be about faggot sex and zoophilia, cant wait to see you get drafted and when youre laying there on your back, your guts exposed steam billowing out from your wound and the life is draining from your consciousness your last thought will be of me laughing my ass off as your fake and gay world view dies along with you.
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>>747676465
Can you list some of the things we agreed on?

>>747676452
I've spent more time in Classic AND vanilla (at launch btw) than you. Sit down.
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>>747674005
Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in the Forgotten Realms?
>Sun Elves
>Moon Elves
>Wood Elves
>Wild Elves
>Sea Elves
>Dark Elves
>Avariel
>Snow Elves
And so on and so forth. And now there are Astral Elves too?
I was under the impression from the campaign books that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747676553
It's always really easy to tell when you're talking to a russian guy because they always, always pivot into talking about homo fag rape and killing you in violent ways.
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>>747676602
Yes on your slavic private servers I'm sure.
Go back to your war fantasies
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>>747676582
Incoherent word soup.
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>>747667494
I had more issues with overall emotional tone of the trailer. There's a sort of "look, we are going home" wonder they are after, but given Blizzard's track record, it just feels like I am being insulted.
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>>747675885
>Collectors editions already sold out btw.
that's awesome, dude!
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>>747676553
And yet you can instantly tell when a poster is eastern European. Curious, isn't it?
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>>747674005
Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in Dragonlance?
>Silvanesti Elves
>Dark Elves
>Qualinesti Elves
>Kagonesti Elves
>Dargonesti Elves
>Dimernesti Elves
And so on and so forth. And now there are Lucanesti Elves too?
I was under the impression from the early novels that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747676172
LMFAO that's so fucking true bro. upvoted, retweeted, liked, commented, subscribed, AND reddit gold to you my good sir *tips fedora*
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>>747676675
cant even fucking read can you? dumb fucking gen alpha on ssris probably a fucking transgender to boot. what a fucking train wreck you cock sucking losers are.
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>>747676602
We argued this yesterday, you are just going to disingenuously say the opposite of everything I say to prove a point that everything should be gay and retarded.
Shan't be playing.
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>>747676701
Kinda like how I can tell you're brown?
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>>747674005
Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in Warhammer 40K?
>Craftworld Eldar
>Druchi
>Harlequins
>Exodite Eldar
>Corsair Eldar
And so on and so forth. And now there are Ynnari Elves too?
I was under the impression from the source material that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747676756
Seethe, cope, mald and dillate.
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>>747676665
>Pretending that I'm the Slavic guy now
Nice try
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>>747676736
touched a nerve? wow forever looks terrible, it's unfortunate
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>>747674005
>Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in Warhammer Fantasy?
>Asaur
>Asrai
>Drucchi
>Eonir
>Sea Elves
And so on and so forth. And now there are Marienburg Elves too?
I was under the impression from the source material that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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Tricking nostalgic old men who thought they could escape the destruction of their hobby by freezing time back into financing their own humiliation
Well done Blizzard, well done
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>>747675616
...but not in warcraft
warcraft dwarves are more academically focused, since they did the traditional "dug too deep" but instead of ancient horrors they found ancient dwarven ancestors
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>Actually gets destroyed by his own argument
>Twice
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>>747676546
This so much this.
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>>747676808
what the fuck you going to do gay boy? fuck your dog? put on your mommys dress? you fucking queer retarded bitch. i'd whoop your fucking ass if you tried to talk to me like that face to face, man to man but you dont do shit. when you get drafted in ww3 and get blown up i'll be toasting your funeral laughing. i can't wait.
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>>747673651
Alright, let's continue to base WoW expansions on whatever the tiktok algorithm is pushing
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>>747676757
You're on an anonymous image board. The people you talk to one day aren't the same the other, friend. Now, uh, can you list anything? Anything at all?

>>747676776
Sorry champ, but unfortunately I'm as White as our Dwarven friend in the OP.
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>>747676895
>Marienburg Elves
oy vey
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>>747676895
>>747676798
>>747676725
>>747676631
>>747676540
is this nigga trying to spam manually? lmao
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>>747676880
No I've never played wow in my life I've just been shitposting in every wow thread baiting wow haters and wow lovers. Thank you for the (you)s I enjoyed laughing at you trying to piss someone off who doesn't care
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>>747674005
Am I the only one who's lost complete interest in The Elder Scrolls?
>Aldmer
>Bosmer
>Dunmer
>Maormer
>Altmer
>Ayleids
And so on and so forth. And now there are "Left Handed Elves" too?
I was under the impression from the source material that this race was almost fucking extinct.
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>>747676809
>Pretending
Brown or slavic call it.
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>>747676936
George RR Martin is disgusting old pedophile with a shit fetish that will thankfully die before he can finish writing his slopnovels and, just like the TV adaptation, everyone will forget about it and move on while Tolkien remains widely read to this day.
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>>747676897
no classic players are being tricked, retail players are trying really hard to fake that anyone wants to play wow forever
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The bear was so fucking faggy and gay acting like a retarded le wholesome chungus disney reddit doggo. You just fucking know forever is gonna be wall to wall gay retail shit like that. It's the ultimate forewarning that you are about to play an extremely gay game for women and homosexuals.

Forever needed to be hardcore 18+ grimdark it should have had evisceration and rape in the trailer to prove it was made with cool epic old school gamers in mind.
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>>747676938
>le heckin virgin rage
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>>747676938
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>I WAS PRETENDING ACTUALLY
This is getting embarrassing, retail players are really one of a kind huh.
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Grim.
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>>747677019
>See how the Slav runs out of arguments after getting called out for his posting styles, and immediately pivots to copying what was said against him
Oh hohohooo that's funny
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>>747676989
I'm not spamming, cretin. I'm making a point.

Why are there adding new Elvish subraces to the setting? Because it's inevitable. People are drawn to a mysterious, powerful, beautiful, but tragic and flawed race, no matter the overall setting.

Even fucking "le grimdark" George Martin did it, he just called them "Targaryens" and pretends they're human.
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>>747677115
>soi-ified version of the memri TV pic
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>>747676984
No, we had this conversation yesterday, shan't be playing.
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>>747677110
you cant get fuckin laid so you started cross dressing you stupid fucking transgender freak, cock chopped piece of shit. i got kids and a wife, and i got a house to what the fuck do you have zoomer queer boy? gonna fucking pop some ssris and jerk off to more porn?
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>>747677140
What posting style.
Reply too it we'll see if it was me (You)
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>>747677183
Are you French? You keep saying "We".

Like Nintendo?
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>>747676987
It's an unfortunately ignored fact that there are huge Elvish populations in Marienburg, Erengrad and L'Anguille. What's interesting about them is that they refuse to be considered subjects of the Phoenix King due to the events of the War of Vengeance.
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>>747677137
this comparison is brutal, you can really see the problem
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>>747677183
He's obviously having some type of meltdown, like I said though he wont be playing in a few months despite him claiming to be "OG"
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>>747677250 (You)
Oh we know exactly what posts
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>>747667494
>Blizzard re-releases the same game yet again
>Blizzard's target audience are trannies and depressed men in their 40s
It's so fucking over.
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>>747676936
Tolkien was going to write a sequel to Lord of the Rings, sort of a mystery novel about how men had hardened their hearts and became more and more like the orcs, but decided not to because it would be too depressing.
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>>747675615
I recall the original bear getting beaned by a Tauren
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>>747677091
Lots of classic addicts are being tricked, it's undeniable
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>>747677414
Sounds to me like you just realised you got me mixed up with someone.
But you're izzat wont let you admit it, I'm glad it's easy for me to tell the difference between posting styles :)
Retard.
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>>747677408
I know he won't be playing, he's a retard. Toлкoвa e cмeшнo.
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>>747677408
Yeah, he can't emotionally handle people having a negative opinion, there's a few people like him on youtube as well trying to attack all the comments shitting on the wow forever announcement, classic players are legitimately pissed, it's one of the few things unifying them
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>>747670018
why does he have an Orc's face?
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>>747677532
Quite the contrary my Yuro friend. You confused me with someone else, I'm just playing along to spare your feelings.
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>>747677521
From my friend group, the only people that said they'd check it out were people that gave dragonflight a shot.
All the classic only friends are clowning on it
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>>747674427
>and then everyone poo'd
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>>747676936
Midwits really use this as the ultimate gotcha when LotR is supposed to be like a parable or fairy tale. No I don't really care or want to know what the tax rate for Gondorian farmers was in the 20th year of Aragorn's reign.
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>>747677568
Maybe it's a blizzard superfan, I should probably leave him alone, he's suffering enough.
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>>747667494
Asmongold said he was going to play so the initial launch will be a huge success for Blizzard. If they fuck that up there will be no recovering for them.
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wow classic fans are vocal about wow forever and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way blizzard did the cinematic and the whole changes thing. I guess they were holding out hope for a new 1.2 era server. There's even a petition that's garnered hundreds of signatures to have the game changed. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
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Chris Metzen!
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>>747676936
Aragorn was known as a fair and just ruler, naturally all of his policies were as well. The Orcs were rightfully exterminated and removed from Middle Earth. I'm unsurprised Martin, who writes explicit child pornography smut in his novels, is offended by that concept.
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>I was pretending to be retarded twice in one thread
Oooooooooof
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>>747677137
Nu-Blizzard is terrified of anything remotely dark, worn, or old.
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>>747677137
from fierce to basedlennial
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>>747677810
Sometimes I have to remember that a lot of us stepped off of the Blizzard train awhile back, but the people that stayed on were truly dented, just incapable of moving on when Blizzard just kept coming out with garbage
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OP, the simple answer is that is not failed marketing, it's doing exactly as intended
Wow classic sold, and the live world has gone stale, but they can't really do a world reboot like in other games, like a "season" and force everyone to lvl 1 again.
So they remade classic, AGAIN, with some changes to justify saying it's a new thing.
This is just Wow Classic, season 2
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>>747677884
Realistically I don't think you could fully exterminate the Orcs considering how entrenched they were in some places, but they were most definitely driven back into the darkness and relegated to maybe harassing distant travelers far from the settled areas of the world.
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>advertise the game as "classic+"
>ils retail- except the combat
>seethe about classic players legitimately wondering who was this made for
Someone post the stop criticizing the multi bilion dollar company cuck
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I think it looks ok maybe
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>>747678028
You still haven't explained what retail- is.
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>>747677726
Well you have better wow friends than I do. My classic guildmates are hopelessly addicted and they're half hyped half coping that it's not going to be so bad
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>>747677839
Do you have a link to the petition? Can't find it, it won't do anything but my wife and I will sign, fuck WoW Forever
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>like half the thread is one guy replying to himself
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>>747677884
It's not so much that they were rightfully exterminated as they dwindled by their own actions. If I recall correctly, Tolkien wrote that the last orc was a lone hermit in a cave that killed himself. Could be redeemed does not mean they were faultless, Christians believe that even Judas Iscariot, the man that sold their Messiah's life for 30 silver coins, could have been forgiven.
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>>747678015
They were certainly expelled as any kind of serious threat. No doubt the Rangers have expeditions to hunt them down and consistently prevent them from ever forming as a larger body politic ever again. Martin is offended by this because Martin likes to write this kind of trash about kids:
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.
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>>747678008
>This is just Wow Classic, season 2
But it's not, it's Retail-, everything about it is Retail, just with toggles to convince people it's still Classic, until they force the new graphics on everyone with new content like they did with D2R and W3 Expansion
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>>747675334
>staring at a flower is the best they could come up with as a selling point
Yeah real adventurous.
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>>747678193
Naw, give them all the sword and put the pedophile shit fetishist Martin down like the animal he is with them.
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>>747678274
Edgy.
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>>747678251
The D2R graphics are actually really good though. It's probably one of the most faithful remasters I've ever seen from a game company.
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>>747678327
Yeah, and writing explicit sex scenes involving children isn't.
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>>747678363
Stop enjoying things
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>>747678267
The flower is obviously a facsimile of stumbling on a random thing while exploring that starts a quest for you.
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>>747667494
It at least immediately killed my hope that they'd lean more into the darker side of WoW, which was more prominent in vanilla than any expansion. It all looks like wholesome adventures and the power of friendship are what they're going for, rather than leaning into the atmosphere of zones like Tirisfal and Silverpine.

Oh well. Maybe next reboot.
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>>747678382
It's disgusting and reprehensible, but I don't know what that has to do with Tolkien writing that orcs could have sought redemption.
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>>747667494
The bottom line is this:
>Asmongold announced he's playing and mobilized his followers
So that's already over a million people who will be subbing to play the game. With Asmon joining, every other WoW streamer will also be playing. There's going to be a MASSIVE amount of people playing for least 6 months, probably the biggest amount of subs Blizzard will ever have in its history.
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>retail mounts, mobs
>transmog
>barbershop can change your skin color cut your dick and carve a vagina instead
>retail heirloom type system and food xp buffs because levelling is boring I guess
>retail UI ( you cant change it, will have to dl an addon for the classic one )
yep its classic+ time
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>>747678506
Redemption doesn't really exist in real life. Most people feign change in order to manipulate others into a false sense of security before immedatiely changing back into their true selves. Hence why Christian nations opened their borders up and Islam is gang raping their kids in the streets, while Christians arrest other Christians who protest it.
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>>747678447
>Undead hordefag seething
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>>747678435
And the most exciting thing they could come up with is a flower? Not a mysterious titan artifact, ominous cursed weapon, last journal of a fallen ally, or particularly large gemstone? A fucking bit of shrubbery in a field.
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>>747678363
That's not the point, the point was a toggle, that eventually forced the new graphics.

WoW Forever's toggles are a lie, they are a funnel to accept the new graphics for future content, like they did with D2R and W3 Expansion.

WoW Forever will eventually see character cosmetics that will force new graphics.
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>>747678557
There's zero difference between the classic and retail UI except resolution
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This thread is unbearable.
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>>747678621
>/pol/jeet seething intensifies
Ah, lovely.
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>>747678435
Why do you pretend like you don't understand the point being made?
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>>747667494
I am genuinely only annoyed they are adding in a new gay Elf race and including Undead Paladins. Both of these things don't feel like they're bringing anything positive to the game.
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>>747670990
>Holly Longdale disagrees with him
>Just ignore that she's the prime pusher of the cozycore friendslop bullshit that is infesting WoW at the moment, just listen to hear (scripted) words!
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>>747678750
Pretending not to understand the other person's argument is paragraph one, sentence one in the leftist handbook.
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>>747678519
>guy who doesn't like playing mmo's anymore is going to save a badly designed mmo
idk bro, he came back to retail and it didn't affect it
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>>747678768
War can be cozy.
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>>747678748
Well, look at Ceuta. The Left declare that Migrants must be accomdated at all costs, while Morocco is emptying their prisons and sending waves of men into CEuta. The government of Morocco states their intention is to annex Cueta into Morocco. The White Left announced they will do all they can to help the migrants, and arrest anyone who defies them. Thus, Morocco will obviously seize control of Ceuta within the next few years and Spain will have lost their land.
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>>747678708
You might be blind
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>>747678713
Sorry I'm all out of bears
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>>747678713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC4ZBkdS_Lk
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>>747678850
I'm not saying Asmon is going to "save WoW", but his interest in it is going to bring a lot of people into the game for at least the first couple of months. I doubt he will play that much in all honesty; I'll give him a month before he unsubs.
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>>747678363
>>747678703
They already do this in anniversary. The Incubus exists with the HR model and all, and there's nothing you can do to turn it off if someone else has it. Of course not many people have the Incubus in Era and HC, but it's a sign of things to come.
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>>747678937
>I'll give him a month before he unsubs
he played about 3 days of hardcore before dropping it, same as retail, and then declared that mmo's just bore him now
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>>747667494
like over a decade ago, girl players complained about hoe sexy outfits were removed or toned down
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Everyone always says Blizz did classic correctly but that's not true and is a lie. Layers and spell batching completely fucked it up from day 1. The balancing was also done on the final patch which nerfed everything before TBC came out so guilds could clear the content they were stuck on. Pserver devs warned Blizzard and they didn't care. Everyone eventually forgot but I never did, classic for the entirety of its existence and to this very day on era is running the nerfed easy modo version of the game designed for shitter guilds to get their cthun and kt kills before the dark portal opened.

So if they couldn't even do 2019 classic correctly there's literally no hope for this shit.
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>>747668638
Give me this pls
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>>747679137
Blizzard has no idea what they are doing, they've been a headless chicken for years
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>>747679103
He sounded pretty serious about committing to this, which of course doesn't necessarily mean anything at all. In any case, he's going to be playing and that immedatiely means 1 million+subs for Blizzard. Every other WoW streamer will be playing as well, and you can be sure non-WoW streamers will jump on the bandwagon. Blizzard is modeling WoW Forever, ultimately, as their last chance to save their company from bankruptcy. The new Starcraft game won't be released until 2030, which effectively means they haven't really started on it yet and are just trying to throw something out there. They have no new IPs at all, and rely solely on their old stuff (Diablo, Warcraft, Starcraft); the exception I suppose is Overwatch. In my opinion, I think Blizzard is really putting their all into this Forever thing, and I think there's a lot of expectation going into it.
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>>747679250
that's not even in the realm of problems that wow forever will have

the entire classic world was ported into retails engine, nothing feels right, the old systems aren't working correctly
devs are trying to cope that
>well we are changing the design philosophy compared to retail
as a way to cope that it's literally just retail, nothing about it feels like classic anymore
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>>747667494
the undead pally is fucking cringe
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>>747679227
>Combat is exactly the same except you can reduce the cooldown of your cooldowns
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>>747679293
you're underestimating the era we live in now
it's coming out at the same time that games just bomb now because the vibes aren't there

classic players are bitching in a lot of videos they don't like this trailer, this is the biggest selling point, not streamers
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>>747678251
Nobody on retail has ever ever ever cared about undead paladins
You cannot say to me with a straight face, that undead paladins wasn't a classic minded request that classic memers and pvpers wanted. Don't bullshit me.
The pretty elves is also classic oriented. You cannot have blood elves in classic unless you advance to burning crusade, which they'll never do, because this is classic seasons 2 and they intend to stick it to classic.
The stats shows that horde players are very low in pve classic servers. Because pve people are not sweaty people that plays the most optimal pvp shit, they care about the race and pve. And blood elves are the majority of horde played race in retail.
So what to we do, to bring in more pve players to horde, if we can't add blood elves, the most played race in retail?
We'll just add some other magical elves that were always there from day one on this timeline!
This is classic and thinking about classic, even if it's retail gay-infused in lore/quests (which it will be, for sure, probably)
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>>747679618
i like to pvp and gank more than pve
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>>747679103
>>747678937
More importantly is he playing Horde or Alliance, so I can play the opposite.
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>>747679497
Classic WoW was running on the Legion version of the client though, not sure what this argument is.
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>>747679293
>He sounded pretty serious about committing to X
>He didn't commit to X in the end, but it was because Y reason!
Classic asmongfag piggy follower
He never commited to anything ever you fucking sheep
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To be honest I don't even get why blizzcucks get angry when classic andys say its not classic plus, it's not even in the trademark. It's factually a completely new IP.
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>>747678447
>the darker side of WoW,
>Keeps referencing the same few Forsaken quests, ignores they're 0,00001% of the entire content.
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>>747679749
What, so you can get goonswarmed by The Loyal Ten Thousand every time you log in?
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>>747667494
>Women
>Learning lessons
LMAO
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>>747679689
>Nobody on retail has ever ever ever cared about undead paladins
The whole Calia Menethil storyline, that's why it's being added to WoW Forever, to retcon lightforged undead into every facet of WoW
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>>747679804
>restart the game, in classic era wow in the timeline, with the classic era map + two new zones
It's classic 2, not classic +
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>>747667634
why did he do it?
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>>747679780
the client, not the engine.
wow forever is the classic world, basically just timewalking, with number adjustments

the classic systems are gone, the game feels different
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>>747680003
The bird was about to escape Samsara
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>>747679826
>it's a third worlder has a hard time understanding words episode
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>>747679804
They know this, they are just mad that classic players aren't accepting it
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>>747679946
She was one of a kind, it's like adding a whole race of half-ogre-like Rexxars, and nobody is asking for that either
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>>747677137
We will never get something this cool ever again; it's literally over. Just make AI takeover at this point.
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i dont know why nillers are going to play this shit. a single cash shop retoilet mount makes more money than every classic subscriber combined. blizzard will never ever put actual resources into anything classic related. it will always be the laziest, most bare bones stuff, with next to no support or updates. when you resub for this shit you are basically subsidizing content creation for retail players. that's where your money goes to. i would not be surprised if next to all the original art assets for forever are just scrapped retoilet content. the blue elves literally look like something they worked on for retoilet then abandoned halfway through and happened to have some of the unfinished art assets laying around.
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>>747680256
They added a bunch of lightforged undead in retail, they aren't popular, but they did
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>>747680492
Aw, is the retail baby mad?
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>>747679845
>current era
>playing pvp
Nah there's no winning. It's either getting goonswarmed, or roll the streamer faction and have no one to fight and long BG queues.
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>>747674427
it's funny how indians are even easier to spot than jews
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>>747680653
Yes, and that severs my point
We going from "they aren't popular" to "people really wanted this!"
Nobody wanted undead paladins nobody cared
The only people that cares about race+class combinations are pvpers
It's not a factor in raids, it's not a factor in m+, it's not a factor in the damn lore of the game.
It's only a factor for pvp
Which, like I said, it's the majority of people playing classic, horde pve numbers are a joke because of no belfs
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>>747667494
That's Hiccup's Dad from How to Train Your Dragon.
It's literally just him.
Is Blizzard that creatively bankrupt?
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>>747681028
No, it's Ed Sheeran you dope.
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>>747680592
I'll try it. Looks like slop but it's just a sub fee to play, cant really say something is truly shit if you dont try it. I think one month is more than enough time to feel the game's vibes.
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>>747680484
good old Azazel
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>>747681107
>but it's just a sub fee to play
it's $30 for early access and $30 for the new race, future new content will be heavily monetized, the store ui is already made
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>>747667850
Mindbreak is real goddamn
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>>747681471
I'm a cuck but i don't really think it's 30 if it gives me access to the other wow as well, so at least i'm saving in the sub for that month
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>>747681540
Not playing your garbage, not watching your garbage either.
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>>747675685
These faggots would rather destroy everything if it pisses off a small group of people. I don't advocate for violence often but maybe these people should be shot in the head and buried in mass unmarked graves.
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>>747681471
Wow that's crazy, still just going to buy the sub though so it will only be 15 dollars.
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>>747681627
>I'm a cuck but i don't really think it's 30
it is $30 for early access
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24301508/pre-purchase-world-of-warcraft-forever-upgrades-and-begin-your-next-journey-in-azeroth
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>>747681807
The Beta is not Early Access lmao.
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>>747681746
if you actually thought blizzard would allow you to do that without locking out future content from you, you're retarded
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>>747681893
you posted this is the other thread, disinfo won't work to damage control
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>>747681964
When have they ever done that? Unless you explicitly mean expansions for Forever, which could be a thing but their monetization is probably just going to be cosmetics and races.
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>>747682047
Do you think the beta will roll into the official launch?
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>>747670018
Couldn't help but notice that this guy didn't have any exposed bones.
Don't like how Chinky censorship became global practice.
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>>747681807
then I'll just won't play early access men, what gives
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>>747667494
>changing the tone and aesthetic isn't taling things away
Got it, I'll keep that in mind whenever China and Arabia retcon black/gay characters for cultural reasons.
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>>747682167
Yes, and the beta comes with free access to GM commands, so the game will start with untold amounts of gold inflation.
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>>747682250
are you a retard or something
genuinely asking
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>>747681807
>Skyborne Epic Pack $ 59.99: Everything in Heroic, guaranteed Beta access, 30 days of game time, plus an additional mount, pet, and cosmetics.

idiots
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>>747670113
>>747669835
I'm not even sure this needs overthinking. Back then the edgy cartoon style was popular so Blizzard did it. Now the soft and harmless style is popular so they're doing it.
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>>747667494
Bears are just chow chows but bigger.
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>>747682324
That's why everyone quit WoW when Cata came out, because fags like Jesse COCKS spammed /give gold 10000 a billion times.
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>>747682391
So where's the restricted content?
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>>747667494
>hasn't actually been taken away
I think the retail numbers and people who came back for classic say otherwise.
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>>747670018
>iron chin
lmao I didn't notice this, dangerously based.
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>>747682472
The skyborne race, starting zone, and beta access
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>>747682391
Not for nothing but that image was made in bad faith. almost none of those games had those conversations prior to launch. Also D3 was better than D2. And I don't want to hear shit from any retard who wasn't playing D2 and their parents kicked them off so they could make a phone call.
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>>747667850
>>animals can be so heckin quirk chungus guys
And I'll prove it to you!
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>>747668385
This nigga worships chaos
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>>747682646
>starting zone
So like the Pandarens then?
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>>747667494
This was very blatant, especially with the recent sentiment from Blizzard where they regret calling the franchise WARcraft because its so aggressive of a name.
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>>747676137
crybaby bitch ass NIGGER
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>>747667494
The thing that bothers me about their communication is that, it's not like their baseline is loving the original and wanting to do more of it. Instead it's like every old setting option they implement are things they begrudgingly let you keep. It's like HERE'S THE NEW MODELS, HERE'S THE VOLUMETRIC FOG...but *sigh* of course, we know that some of you..want to have the old models, so we added an SD toggle, and we PAINSTAKINGLY modeled the old animations onto the new models for you. This is evident in the new assets that they just can't help make with more fidelity instead of having some strict visual design limits on themselves with the passionate goal of making it look like vanilla. Same idea with the glowing tattoo sky elf living in shadowlands architecture zone.

TLDR It's a losing battle from the start. Really hope I'm wrong though.
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>>747682730
>says we should look after animals and nature
>gets killed by an animal in nature
Wokies get what they deserve.
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>>747682658
>Also D3 was better than D2.
Wrong
>And I don't want to hear shit from any retard who wasn't playing D2 and their parents kicked them off so they could make a phone call.
I had cable internet since 1999
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>The blue elves can be brown

They had to sneak that in didn't they? Everyone needs to start calling Forever what it really is: the browning of Classic Azeroth. There are ZERO jigaboo elves in Classic Era. Now they're releasing a new and improved version of Classic with 100% more NIGGERS!
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>>747683110
At least Irwin's case was an accident despite knowing the danger. Grizzly Man was just a pure fucking retard who ignored all common sense and warnings from park rangers. It never once crossed his mind that a starving grizzly would try to eat him.
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>>747683372
>b-but it was an accident!
Woke babble. We should kill all animals.
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>>747682730
>>747683110
Weird ass responses. Yeah Timothy was fucking retarded and got him and his girlfriend killed by animals but Steve absolutely fucking respected nature and knew the risks of his showmanship and spectacle because it did get people to actually care about animals.
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>>747683417
Kosher hands typed this.
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>>747683045
Some of the classic streamers in touch with blizzard said they had to fight to have blizz implement classic char models in the game. I think that alone tells what they think about classic wow and their plans for that new IP.
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>>747669913
Pandaren were always cool. Just probably not something you should make an entire expansion of. Seeing a ton of them in villages and shit is what made it feel like kung fu panda instead of mysterious rare kung fu badasses from beyond the mist.
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>>747683469
I think you're misunderstanding anon's point
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>>747683618
His point has no meaning, he's just babbling.
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>>747680003
because he could and he willed it
he was exercising his will to power
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>>747670180
the p server content was very amateurish and bad anon. they did know how to keep the aesthetic and spirit of it right though
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>>747682391
trvke
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>>747680003
Reincarnate as an animal. Fucking hate it. World won't let you die until you suffered enough. Bear acted to the will of the archons.
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>>747678557
You'd rather pay $20 to reedit your character?
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>>747667494
>game called world of warcraft
>were going back to vanilla to show WAR AND CRAFT
>actually heres modern faggot ass pixar wannabe femoid faggotry have a laugh funny times xddd
niggers in this thread who are defending everything with trannywow foreverdilating are the people who wont play it. they are retail troons who will show up for 2 months and leave forever and the actual market of vanilla players is left niggered and without a game once again to appease faggot leftoid bear fucker gate 3 tourist niggers and trannoids retail faggots.
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There he is talking about fucking bears again.
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>>747670990
>>747671547
>>747678768
>sigh
>can't believe I have to pander to these neckbeard manchildren and say this shit
>deep breath
>"T-to w-waar!
>god I hate every single one of them
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>>747684083
DANGEROUSLY based post
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>>747684083
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>>747684167
Holly is one of them though.
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>>747670749
I think zoomers and young millenials just have no idea how to write.
They were raised on marvel not Tolkien.
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>>747684019
I'd rather have a long ass well designed quest or a rare item drop that are both lorefriendly to be able to do that. That's the quintessential classic game design philosophy.
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>>747684545
I think more customization would be good if they are improving the game, but knowing blizzard they will make all the options gay and retarded so they might as well not even bother.
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>>747684545
Why not do that to unlock hairstyles or face customization options and still just have the barbershop be free?
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>>747673374
plz be patient
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>>747670920
POOPY BEAR ALERT
POOPY BEAR ALERT
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>>747675334
It doesn't capture the spirit of the original at all though. In the og trailer even the more peaceful moments carry with them a sense of seriousness, the dwarf cresting the cliff overlooking Ironforge, the tauren letting out the powder in the wind, the night elf checking tracks. A sense of wonder in exploring dangerous but beautiful world. More like when he saw Archimonde's corpse in the trailer. All this is made worse by the incredibly generic feelgood music that doesn't sound at all like the previous entries mind you. This has been kept in every single CG trailer released of the series to date by the way. The complete whiplash of that scene to fighting the undead in the crypt makes it very evident and like it was written by two clashing views within the team, or that they needed to fulfi a dark quota, but once that was done, just throw in the whimsy.

TLDR; Ya a shit.
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>>747679826
WoW has a lot of variety,
You've got mulgore and gnomeregan on one side,
And you've got upside down sinners and silverpine on the other.
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>>747667494
>WoW has always been pastel faggotry
>"OH NO! IT'S BECOMING FAGGOTRY!"
Blizzdrones lost before the game started.
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>>747685070
Eastern Chaddoms yet again DARKMOGGING Kalimdoofs.
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>>747685109
Wrong, it’s always been edgy and dark but didn’t take itself so seriously that it couldn’t be funny as well.
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>>747685373
>WoW was edgy and dark
It was Everquest turned into a Saturday morning cartoon.
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>>747685023
It's useless anon, people like the post who you're replying to just don't get "it". It's not even culture war, they just don't get what inspired people back in the early 2000's when they first saw the vanilla and WOTLK trailers.It's lost technology at that point.
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>>747674117
I think this complaint is overblown. Sickly feeble guy but who has the most insane magical powers is a kino trope. You wouldn't say this about an old wizard slowly walking and leaning on his walking stick, even if he has universe shattering powers. When he needs to, Khadgar can probably cast Fly on himself and go nuts. Just in his off hours he's not focusing and prefers a simpler mode of transport. This is just the dnd wheelchair infecting this discussion.
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>>747674413
It's better than a box cost, such a stupid argument. You don't need to pay if you don't want the elves you can still play the game.
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>>747685507
(You)
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>>747683515
Just because CHEN was tokenish chinese, didn't mean the whole panda race and panda culture and panda raids and panda land and panda music and panda lore had to be chinese
It's not about the expansion
It was about the clear china panda pandering
Chen was a panda
Chinese, panda, pandaren, it was a joke, I got it, it was one character, it was him, "ANOTEL LOUND?" and he spew fire and it was great.
Chen was cool.
Chinese pandarens even packaged with the fucking buddhist religion and be calm and the feelings, was not cool and will never be cool.
But it's not about the expansion
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>>747685534
9/11 inspired WoW's creation.
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>>747674365
Did she always have a fucking nose ring? Fuck this gay earth
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>>747685619
KEKYPOW THE BLIZZDRONE IS SEETHING
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>>747685373
>Cata quest specifically when the Undead were turned into comically evil cartoon villains with a Tim Burton aesthetic instead of morose and sardonic machinators who at best are apathetic to the suffering of the living
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>>747674054
yeah why the fuck didn't they just make this an always active on your minimap no slot required, easiest change of all time, now it's gonna remain unused beyond the first few levels, as it always has
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>>747674164
I really hate that I can't ever know if short cute animal clips doing unexpected shit is AI these days.
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>>747685862
That video is older than 80% of the people posting on /v/
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>>747685862
That has an AFV watermark, so it's likely real and old as shit.
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>>747685721
They were always comically evil and that’s why people played them.
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>>747677157
First of all, it's different because all of that was made up by the creator of that universe himself - Tolkien - and no one else. Second, the Silmarillion wasn't even official in any sense. It was just a collection of things Tolkien had been working on before he died that never became a real narrative.
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>>747674612
y'know what never made sense to me is how animals when in these threatening situations just look away or down in the ground or turn their back and shit when within striking distance of the opposite animal and then randomly just snap and attack before even looking like in the clip. It's like it's only humans who invented z-targeting and never looking away it's so fucking strange.
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>>747685962
No they were actually just evil in Vanilla. Wrath was the start of that schism during the whole Wrathgate into Battle for Undercity thing.
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>>747685023
Well articulated anon.
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>>747667494
>Why is Blizzard doing this again?
They don't know how to do anything else.
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>>747686161
Their stated goals are to genocide all life on Azeroth. Wrathgate was a power struggle between Sylvanas and Varimathras for control over the race. It’s only in retail that they become wholesome quirk chunguses like you are describing.
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>>747685623
china didn’t like mop anyway
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>>747678447
I'm sure we'll get more undead content, why wouldn't we? That's like a third of their assets
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>>747686547
Yes but my point was the seeds of that really started with Wrathgate and started to sprout in Cata.
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>>747686547
>Their stated goals are to genocide all life on Azeroth
nice headcanon
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>>747686708
It started when they hired women and trannies who don’t understand the spirit of WoW and think it is a disney game.
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>>747679227
I played one after coming back to the game a few years ago after not having played since og classic launch. It's hard to go back. Being able to stealth around stuff and the thrill of doing solo errands in places like BRD was just such a great feeling. Haven't ever felt like I as in such deep shit and really scared like I was in a real mythic place before. I guess druid can kind of do similar things, but sap and vanish re-stealth allows one to do many things like loot containers. Leveling with an ambush heavy build with the 40% temp buff talent after killing mobs was a blast as well. Just 70% damage every other mob in one hit, felt great.
The one time I felt blizz really dropped the ball was in UBRS in the dragon egg room, and I was told by the party to activate the crystal on the far end of the room. So I started stealthing and weaving between the dragon eggs on the ground and it was like class fantasy realized on steroids doing this little task, but the dragon eggs explode even if you don't touch them, because they have a bigger radius , even if there's a clear path between them. Just bullshit for no good reason. Thx for reading my blog.
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>>747684448
holly's a neckbeard?



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