is AAA dying?
no
>>747668114I mean... hopefully?
>>747668114How do you go from 90m to 315m in one sequel
>>747668114>300 millionKojima could have produced 3 more Death Stranding sequels with that budget...
>>747668114The spidermonkey dlc cost more than than the base game? And sold 30% as much? Oof, I thought the chuds were just memeing when they say get woke, go broke.
>>747668374>3 more shit gamesw-wow
>>747668114no but it should be.
>>747668114I don't believe their numbers
If Rivet had even a smidge of sex appeal Rift Apart would've sold amazingly. The one thing they had to do, and they fumbled it. Bunch of marketing retards.
>>747668114I fucking hope so. Who looks at this and thinks it's normal?
>>747668717>sex appealThat's not allowed
>>747668723>>747668723how does this impact you personnally when you pay the same price?
>>747668114slopflation
>>747668114No it's doing exactly what it set out to do, launder money. Because there's zero other explanation for how such shit games can have such extremely high budgets.
>>747668114Nah. We're just experiencing the final busts from the overextension caused by the boom covid caused to vidya. I'd be surprised if more than one big publisher goes actually bankrupt.
>>747668353Diversity hiring daycare program
>>747669840Taxes. Ubisoft has received over 1 billion in taxes to make their diversity AAA garbage.Please look this up, it's fucking insane and nobody seems to care. Absolutely enraging.
>>747669840The Marvel games are inflated because of Disney licensing. Naughty Dog has the same problem though, they hire teams of 200+ American developers when a Polish or Korean would have done the job for less than half the salary
>>747668114nigga gta 6 is dropping and it's gonna sell gorillionfuck you mean it's dying?
>>747668114>$50M for advertisement>$50M for motion capture>$50M went to Sweet Baby Inc. >$50M went to making the game more retard friendly>$50M went to *THWIP!*>$50M went to *SNIKT!*>$5M went to making all the characters uggos and cuckos
>>747670081>canada is the reason why ubisoft is so shitfucking LEAFS
>>747669729when bullshit like this >>747670081 exists
>>747670157GTA VI is a complete anomaly where people have waited 13 years for another game and Rockstar are leaders in open world games. It's also not a Sony game or even an American game. It's a mostly British game with menial work outsourced to India. Sony games sell 5 million to 20 million and not 210 million like GTA V
>>747669729Are you incapable of considering the implications or thinking about the problem for more than 30 seconds? If games cost this much they need to sell in the millions just to break even, the cost of a failure is massive. This makes publishers/devs risk averse, preferring to bet on a safe, proven formula instead of taking risks and innovating. It makes them try to appeal to the largest possible audience, and apparently the lowest common denominator gamer is retarded. Not to mention the excessively long development times compared to the 90s and early 00s, and the fact that when there's so much money in the business it attracts people who have no interest or passion for games that simply try and get a cushy job in the industry.
>>747668114
>>747668114Spiderman is the most popular superhero in the entire world by far. What made them think they should drop as much money on Wolverine?
>>747668114Maybe insomaniac just makes shitty games anon or, you know, maybe SONY just sucks now.
>>747668717They even made her a lesbian lmao
>>747670081Problem chuds?
>>747670537The game was leaked online and rebooted half way through because they were struggling to make it good so that probably pushed up costs. Looks very hypocritical after getting rid of Kojima for making a game they forced him to make (DS2)
>>747670383I'm pretty sure french leafs are the most insufferable subset of white people on the planet.
>>747670737Can Canada be saved?
>>747670383French scum from Quebec are not Canadians
>>747671112Does it *deserve* to be saved?
>>747668114is? game industry has been dead twelve years already, anon.
>>747670487>attracts people who have no interest or passion for games that simply try and get a cushy job in the industry.That's every industry. Hasbro executives were """playing""" MTG clearly staged for a photoshoot.Laughable.
>>7476726032015 was a good year, take that back
>>747673718Perhaps, but gaming started from a bunch of nerds making the games they want to play to a monster that makes more money than movies.
>>747668114>Miles Morales is basically a DLC that refurbishes 90% of the previous game>they raised the budget by 66 million
>>747668574But enough about Fromsoft's next 3 games
So, is that budget or income?
no game should cost 1 million+ to make
>>747668184>t.
>>747668114Isn't Wolverine linear as fuck and like 10 hours long? Where did all the money go?
>>747677741Look inside and I'm sure you'll find lots of duplicate work in the admin and art departments, as well as too many admin/support staff in general.The same as happens in big tech companies, the same as happens at universities, the same as happens in government. Excess connective tissue moves in and starts soaking up salaries, then quickly begins to influence the company towards the interests of that connective tissue over the organs, and eventually over the interests of the whole body. Cancer is a reasonable metaphor.
>>747668114this will definitely be the end of bloated budgets resulting in sub-par games that can only dream of breaking even. hell nintendo could take all that money combined and fund their operations for the next 50-100 years.
>>747668114How do you unironically spend 90 million remastering an already made game?I know californians want big wages, but that should've been a single year of work, maybe 5 millions tops because you made a bunch of new assets, but holy fucking shit they're fucking hacks....
>>747671287Quebecers literally discovered your country, named it, created its symbols and national anthem. Learn your history Rasheet.
>>747668114I hope so
>>747668114>dyingIts been dead and buried for like a decade bro.
>>747668114>best game cost the least>6 hour interlude almost doubled the first gameMagical things going on at that company.
>>747678619Rumor is devs actually asked for LESS budget, and got told to shut up and use it somehow.Probably some tax bullshit or bracket tiering of revenue goals you'd need to pay accountants and/or lawyers to make any sense of
>>747679879wrong link, that was for >>747679376
>>747668114how much money did they make back?
>>747680243Made?umm Chuds got owned and that's priceless?
>>747680243$1.2B for SM2.
How much of this money is budget just for IP rights because that's just insane
Ratchet and Clank was fun
>>747668114wait don't we have the leaked internal figures for insomniac where is this venom game
>>747668114I enjoy how nothing the titles/logos are
>>747668114Money laundering, useless devs and women looting studio budgets before the studio shuts down
It's crazy how insomniac leaks actually show where the budget went and yet people here still spout misinformation.
>>747680750The fuck is chuds?
GTA 6 comes out next month so no
>>747671112Hopefully not!
>>747668114So the objectively best business decision is more Ratchet and Clank games, right? Surely they’ll make more of those than once a generation, right?
>>747668574>>747674552retard to retard communication
>>747682950ratchet and clank only broke even according to insomniac's leaks so no.
>>747682950No, Rift Apart lost money.
>marvel shit>AAA
>>747682754explain this for a layman.
>>747682754>counting how many people are there for 6 years cost $194.5 million
>>747683276Most of the costs of a video game is the amount of employees they have every year.
>>747682754It's the usual suspects which is the graphics team. Hiring a bunch of people just to see Wolverine's pores for 2 seconds in a close-up.
>>747683068>>747683080The leaks were early projections and inaccurate. The game sold over 4 million copies by 2023 and was surely profitable.
>>747682754>Localization 6.8Mwhat the fuck
>>747669840Let's do math.$150k average salary200 employees7 years150,000 * 200 * 7 = $210MWhat's going on here is a mixture of excessive bureaucracy, overhiring. the hiring of retards and bad actors who shouldn't be here, and adult daycare culture. Also, decades of left wing policies (conservative parties in general will pretend like they're not in power even when they have enough control to amend the constitution; they bark like a pitbull and attack like a chihuahua) has made it cost a fortune to enjoy the same living standards that the boomers enjoyed when they were 25 years old.
>>747684591Can we actually have a real conversation about the cost of game making instead of political theater?
>>747668717Don't forget the interview where a dev was going around and yelling "Rivet tits!" only for a fat sjw karen to whine that Rivet should be flat and sexless for diversity reasons.
>>747668114it already has
>>747684087need to translate to 80 different languagesplease understand
>>747685026Okay, sure, there's no reason why it costs a fortune to live in America compared to 50 years ago, companies legally can't get rid of the lunatics without getting sued into the ground, and keeping Americans employed is now unsustainable! We shouldn't blame anyone because nobody did this!
>>747685840Thanks for nothing anon. Time for meds.
>>747685994Are you perhaps not smart enough to see how this is one of the main factors destroying the American game industry?California and Washington became powerhouses back when they were fiscally responsible states. Now if you want to pay a team of professional workers enough money to own a house, you need a $200M budget.
>>747687792No anon im a big dumb-dumb and you’re a smarty-smart.
>>747687868Well, you don't seem to want to discuss WHY game companies need to offer a $150k/yr salary for a mid-level position.It's not because American workers aren't satisfied unless they own a yacht. It's because everything has gotten ridiculously expensive.
>>747668114AI may be the only solution
>>747688056I don’t even think it’s a salary issue. I think it’s mostly marketing these days, since digital marketing costs have easily doubled if not tripled in the last 5 years.I think game companies are writing blank checks for flagship titles that everyone needs to buy despite the market actually getting way more segmented is killing the industry. It’s not 2007 anymore - platform holders can’t get half of their install base to consistently buy their major 1-2 games per year.
>>747668114I am so sick of cape shit. At least let the capeshit die.
>>747668503The SM game was a remaster of the PS4 game, so it was already made. What's crazy is 90 Mil for a graphics upgrade.
>>747668353ballooning budgets?grift / money laundering
>>747670081leftist org cheating, in collusion with leftist governments.Should have known. This is why they seem immune to market forces and stay always up and running.
>>747668114no, they just keep making it
>>747668717Rivet is a cute you fucking faggot
>>747668114Yes. You dont need realism to enjoy video game. Late PS3 graphics already more than enoughYou dont need celebs to enjoy video game, just hire some literal who VAYou dont need licensing to enjoy video game, be originalYou dont need CEOs to enjoy video game, just make what you want
>>747693381She's flat and lacks ass and Rivet was designed that way on purpose. She could've been MORE.
>>747668353Sweetbaby charges out the ass
