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>>747681786
Dr V and Mr Johnny shooting up Arasaka
and going to the sun ending is canon

>>747682540
>resist the chip making you Johnny by... becoming Johnny
You lost

>>747682703
that's the Temperance ending you dumb nigger

>>747681786
I chose the suicide ending and thought it was so funny and perfect I never reloaded to see the other endings and never played the game again.

Its literally a flawless ending.

>>747681786
You can still get cured of the chip and return to earth, receiving calls from your friends and associates but due to genetic damage done by the chip you only have 6 months to live before your body rejects you. Honestly the best ending is just to trust Arasaka since we know post game they actually negotiate for peace with Militech/NUSA and also keep the NUSA in check from eternally chimping out and turning Night City into an even bigger shithole.

>>747682980
>repeating Johnny's mistake by storming Arasaka just like Johnny wants, thus losing yourself without even realizing it
you lost and you didn't even know it
I bet you did everything Johnny wanted and started dressing like him too kek dumb faggot

>>747681786
I've shot myself. What did he say when we've first met, again?
>Stick some iron in your mouth and pull the trigger. Lead to the head. Only thing that'll fix this.

Wish granted. You don't get to puppet my dead body around, Johnny boy. Whatever second chance you've thought you're going to have, not going to happen. You're going to Hell - the back of it, reserved for engram clankers.

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>>747683146
>the best ending is just to trust Arasaka
How do you get to the ending of a 50-hour game without playing the game?

>>747683146
the devil ending
is the absolute goyium ending

>>747681786
i am glad they added the glowie ending made it playable for me i hate doomed protag stories
it is strange people think being dead is better than being crippled, you are also rich enough to retire to some private megamansion far away from that shithole city

>>747683146
Their endgame is to literally kill everyone and replace them with engram copies under their direct control
There's literally nobody you should trust less than Arasaka

The only big flaw the game has is there's no secret ending where you side directly with Yorinobu after doing enough sidequests/independent research to realize what he was planning

>>747683146
I believe that tidbit assumes Yorinobu took over Arasaka and unfucked it, the Arasaka ending itself just revives Saburo and fucks everything up for everyone else.

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>>747683314
>what he does with my body is his business

>>747683558
the issue with it is that it's irrationally spiteful towards you for picking it and making all your supposed friends fuck off and not even return your calls
like the IRL equivalent would be someone with stage 4 cancer getting experimental treatment, falling into a coma for 2 years and after they woke up everyone hating them for it

The best ending is uninstalling the game after your first fap

>>747683703
V made all those friends in like 2 weeks they aren't that important, you can just make some more

>>747683558
>it is strange people think being dead is better than being crippled
You only say that because you're a fatass NEET who wouldn't see a difference

>>747683242
ok but mass shooting the most evil and biggest megacorporation as Vince the over-augmented cyberpsycho and killing adam smasher is based

>>747683146
I'll never get over Arasuckers sperging about NUSA because...just trust me, foreign corpocock is so much tastier than American govcock, alright?

>>747683815
i am sure you are winning all that glory anon
everyone's goal IRL is to become a neet after enough mindless labor nobody actually wants to burn bright and die fast

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Now this on the other hand, is how you do an ending. Based Todd indriectly telling you to KYS.

>>747683878
Unironically a japanese hegemony would be more based than just another kike blackrock clone

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Thats what you deserve for not romancing Panam and going with the Avocados
Skill issue

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>>747683779
>>747683703
>meet a guy
>he saves your job
>he gets you back with your family
>he saves your father
>he saves your family
>he does all this for free taking precious days from his weeks-long life
>he falls in a coma for years
A non-foid would feel honor-bound and indebted for the rest of life.

>>747681786
>Entire message of the game is living fast or die trying
>Everyone who "retires" or takes the easy way gets shit on, throughout the entire game. From the Adlecaldo leader to Kerry.
>Somehow autistic retards on /v/ don't pick up on this and expect the game to fellate them when they take the easy way out
I think its just people who expect games to fellate them at all times for all their choices. I blame games like Skyrim which have zero friction in player choices.

>>747683779
the nomads declare you to be family, and in a lot of these people's cases you saved either their lives or the lives of people close to them
if the guy who saved my nephew from a serial killer 2 years later asked for help damn right I'd give him what he needs

>>747683558
>i am glad they added the glowie ending made it playable for me i hate doomed protag stories
Dexter foreshadows and asks if you would rather live as a nobody or die as a legend in a blaze of glory? the glowie ending makes you a nowbody a literal cripple.

>>747684006
it's not just her, River's just as ungrateful a dick as she is

>>747684006
Panam literally brings her entire clan together to storm Arasaka for you after a phone call

>>747683127
Unironically

>>747683146
>arasaka hands typed this post

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>>747684001
>>747684006
>he romanced the BPD mutt who dumps you because you were in a coma
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH WOW
single mom vibes

>>747684009
Aldecaldo leader gets an honorable death
Kenny gets a happy ending
V gets a slow, miserable and painful death or a life that the developers consider not worth living. Well that or getting used as a cumrag by Blackwall AIs.

>>747684105
and it was dumb the base game didn't actually let you make that choice, living as a nobody is cool, i like being alive.

>>747683127
it's the most grim and realistic option by far

>>747684009
I feel like it doesn't make the game any less retarded just because it is intentionally so

Viktor Vektor was cool about it

>>747684105
honestly I would have loved if "no augs" was an optional challenge mode
Have to use an external visor for scanning that's slower and more expensive to upgrade, if you do any hacking it's through an oldschool portable cyberdeck and doesn't get you endgame stuff, only real upgrade is getting Bartmoss's deck
Health is locked to your base level, can only gain armor by buying armor to wear, any skills that rely on augments are locked off and flat out can't do quests that depend on having a cyberlink

maybe something for the sequel

I've never beaten this game, but every file me and Johnny are always cool.

Might as well work with him considering he can take control and make me almost kill myself.

>>747681786
The dlc ending where you get cured is so retarded. It's like they couldn't think of actual reasons why it would be bad so they have to make V retarded and not tell any of his friends or gf/bf and then all his close friends and family hate him after saving his own life because???

Oh and for no reason whatsoever V can't use cybergear anymore because we said so. This means V can't be a merc anymore and this makes him so sad. Never mind that the no cybergear thing makes no sense and also even with no gear you can still be super powerful both in game and in tabletop. It's so retarded.

>>747683127
>go out on your own terms to end your terminal illness without cücking your body to a corp or Johnny
>this is bad because normalfags are afraid of fictional suicide (it hits too close to home)

>>747684209
You won't be alive for long with how shitty The Tower makes V's situation.

>>747683376
>50 hour
Takes less then 10 to finish cyberpunk lil bro
main mission isnt that long

>>747684336
assuming V takes that NUSA job he wouldn't be so screwed

>>747684336
you forget you are also rich as fuck by the end of the game
you can move to poland with misty buy some chateau and hire a private army to do your fighting for you

>>747684336
You can just not live in the Night City. Go pick up a desk job that Solomon gave you. Why would literally anyone who is not a borderline cyberpsycho, out to make the quick buck and die in a blaze of glory, want to live in Night City is honestly beyond me.

>>747684275
I want a sequel with a no voiced protag where i can be my own character with an actual lifepath that effects the story

V is his (not her femv is dumb) own character with motives and a personality a lot of dumb skyrim faggot modding retards don't know that they aren't their own character it's like saying JC Denton is my OC.

>>747684120
>the BPD adrenaline junkie storms a corp with you
Yet she couldn't stay with you during a coma lol

>>747684203
>Aldecaldo leader gets an honorable death
After /v/ convinces him to not take the corpo deal and keep on being nomads, then storms Arasaka. He's shit on completely as a coward when he was insisting on doing the corpo work
>Kerry
Has to be convinced to come out of retirement by /v/. If he isn't, he's left as a drunk loser reliving his past successes vicariously forever.

Those characters are convinced away from taking the easy way, and only then do they get a good ending. They are shit on and portrayed as morally wrong for being weak and cowardly enough not to choose the difficult way that will make them burn brighter even if they fail.
Again, the message of the game is extremely clear.

>>747684009
There is no choice here. It's all different flavors of the same misery porn. The endings happen due to a complication that no one is able to solve for some reason and only affects V even if he himself is just a copy made by Alt.

>Like the game
>'ate most of the endings
>'ate everyones midwit take on the story
simple as

If the secret ending was actually you and Johnny dying in a blaze of glory and doing meanigful damage to Arasaka I would've liked the game more. As it stands only Star is a decent ending, or Devil if you're reallly high IQ and realize Arasaka isn't tricking you and the offer is genuine. Both versions of Sun suck (one is V wasting the last months of his life because he has imposter syndrome...and the other is the same except he has no reason to have imposter syndrome) and Temperance is the biggest waste of potential in the game (reborn Johnny Silverhand is gonna use his second shot...to be a drifter and do nothing of import, politically or artistically?).

>>747683929
People want experiences in life that involve physical activity instead of being a cripple

>Panamsimps had to headcanon she died in the NUSA ending because they can't accept the fact she left V
it's so sad it becomes funny

>>747683579
Why would Yorinobu side with V? He doesn't need anything from anyone. The only reason something doesn't go his way is if V decides to mess with him.

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>>747684197
>He did the tower ending
>Calls me a mutt
I almost broke my mouse spamming the attack button when that nigger Reed and his skinwalker shebon killed my French queen
I did the entire songbird quest in a sitting just to shoot that Muttmerican glowie in the head

>>747684493
In The Devil you're killing yourself for the hope that your digital clone will be ressurrected someday. That doesn't seem like a good deal.

>>747684485
>He thinks raiding a space casino for the ultra rich single handedly for a chance at a cure is misery porn
The game has a clear best choice. And it is, as I said, the one that has you fighting for it.

>>747683579
I did all the gigs and sidequests and I never got that inpression at all. I think the "Yorinobu is a double agent" thing is just wishful thinking.

>>747684657
Reed is based and the destroyer of all thots and their simps.

>>747684450
She is the leader of her NOMADIC clan

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>best ending is waiting 5 minutes and going Columbine/Killdozer on Arasaka

What did cdpr mean by this?

>>747684039
>>747683779
my eye doctor saved my life a few years ago and I would take a bullet for him. Certainly I'd return his calls if he fell into a coma.

>>747684639
Yorinobu barely even knows you exist. He's Takemura's problem, not yours. Nobody's hunting V at any point. That's one of the biggest problems of the game, the main antagonists (Smasher and Yorinobu) are people that were in a room with V that one time and are in no way responsible for what happened to either him or Jackie. You have no reason to care about final confrontation with either of them beyond "Smasher looks like a boss fight". Hell, Yorinobu had the same idea as Johnny.

>>747684515
V isn't actually physically crippled though just a normal human who can't use augments which is crippled relative to fighting the techno crackhead freaks in night city

why didnt V just take the glownigger job? the fuck is he gonna do as a normal mook in night city? get mugged and die??

>>747684932
V can't make a rational choice or else the player can't go through the humiliation session the devs think you deserve.

>>747684765
>his gf chose her job over him even though he saved her, her job, and her family
>she got mad at him for... being comatose
I'm crying, dude. This is too funny.

>>747684734
Well in Sun and Star you kill yourself the moment you enter Mikoshi, the game is just not ready for the whole "engrams are not the same as the people they were made from" debate, not for Johnny and definitely not for V.

>>747684932
Why would he take any job you should have enough money for the next ten generations of your family to be retired by the time you've done all the quests.

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I chose to believe V lives in the Panam ending
The tarot cards are never wrong
The theme of the game is that NC is a flame that attracts moths for people who wish fame,money and glory. If you leave the city willingly you are not longer getting punished for your greed

>>747684917
He was "crippled" in a sense that he was a guy that just came out of a 2-year long coma. If he wasn't he would've realistically kicked the shit out that nig and his buddy, chrome or no chrome.

>>747684743
I did not see that raid. As far as i know V just died three footsteps in. A concept of a fun mission that isn't in the game for whatever reason doesn't make it any better when V has the same expiration date as the other two base endings.

>>747685057
I doubt you have any eddies on the tower ending, you are heavily implied to become a random NPC
You probably accumulated debt interest, had your bank account closed or your ilegal assets seized by the NUSA

>>747684009
>the whole point of the game is coming to terms with death and your legacy
>"glory" is a childish ideal of getting a drink named after you in a shitty bar that no one ever orders (as proven in Johnny's mission)
>you're beaten over the head again and again that chasing glory only hurts the ones around you
Sadly, there are still people too dumb for the pilak writing.

>>747681786
I love how they set you up for the coma ending though. You have literally no choice but to fall asleep without any memo, ignoring everyone in your life because the plot demands it, and it then makes sense for them to completely leave you for that bittersweet ending.
What are polacks smokin...

>>747685028
The game seems to conflate digital copies with actual ghosts. I don't think even half of people that got the Sun or the Star understand V died.

>>747685232
well they forgot to include that in their humiliation ritual so i don't have to believe it
MY v is living happily in his own cyber castle on the moon fucking robo whores that almost crush him to death every day until he dies a very old man

>>747685075
V in that ending is an engram made by Alt.

>>747685325
You do. It's pretty clear that there's no difference between written data and a 'soul' in universe, which is why the Johnny ending is playable in the first place.

>>747683579
POV: you didn’t play the game and make up head canon
Arasaka at worst wants to keep engrams for marketing purposes. We also know from people ingame who had engrams that they’re completely normal, see old man Arasaka or Lizzy.
>>747683878
Because Arasaka actually provides something to the world that isn’t just weapons like Militech/NUSA? Like nigga just play the DLC and look up what Militech wants to do with rogue AIs. If it wasn’t for Netwatch with the help of the EU and Arasaka, humanity would’ve been wiped out already and replaced by AI controlled husks. Hell that’s the whole plot point of Song Bird and the NUSA/Myers.

>>747684209
But you do have that choice. Just stop playing in the prologue :)

>>747684449
>I want a sequel with a no voiced protag where i can be my own character
We do not do that in exiled polifornia

>>747685154
You are really underestimating how the weakest slightly cromed bum is above a regular human.

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I chose the Aurore ending, V immediately folds and tells her everything after a night of streamy Frog sex at the casino hotel suite and they run away to France were there is free healthcare and "genetic damage" can be treated like seriously what the fuck does terminal genetic damage mean when you have artificial organs and gene theraphy everywhere my V has two hearts and a metallic squeleton ffs
Only thing you need to unlock this ending is huffing glue and overdosing on adderal while gooning to Aurore's rule34 mid phantom liberty playthrough

>>747685274
I get that. It's still shitty, contrived and just plain bad. "No happy endings in Night City" means shit when the game has to pull stuff out of it's ass to prevent any good ending.

>the secret ending has nothing to do with your 100-hour character, your choices, or your relationship with Johnny
>it's just one misleading dialogue option at the end of the game
Nice "RPG"

>>747685481
Why didn't v bring any of the crazy arsenal i collected over the game? I don't need chrome to ventilate a bum.

>>747685368
The moon is canonically majority black, I'd rather become an engram or part of Altgpt desu

>>747685481
Streetkid or Nomad V at the start of the game had no chrome except for the personal link despite being more than capable of fending for himself, and canonically had no Chrome when they went to Konpeki plaza aside from the eyes. The two bums had no visible chrome. Most Animals have no chrome.

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>Devil
you're a cuck, pussy, and a funko pop consoomer
>Tower
you're a very desperate person but not as pathetic as the losers that chose the devil
>Star
simp but at least you get pussy before you die
>Temperance
lowkey cuck ending but you get to go to the afterlife for virtual blackwall pussy
>choosing Rouge
You give into johnny's vices and have others die for you. You get the best ending but this is the most selfish option to do it
>suicide
you're a realist
>The Sun
it's the best ending so that means you're cool
>Don't Fear the Reaper
you're absolutely based whenever if you live or die trying shooting up Akasaka by yourself

>>747685684
Assuming V had all those weapons, he would have neither the strength nor reflexes to use them properly.

>>747685621
It does have something to do with your relationship with Johnny, but it's just being a sycophant instead of developing it in a meaningflu way.

>>747683558
I'd rather die than lose both of my arms. Hell, even one arm.

>>747685894
Damn, that's what jacking off with both arms does to a motherfucker

>>747681786
>your "friends" all abandon you while you're in a coma
tbf none of them knew he was in a coma, they just assumed he was dead, and thats just forced writing on CDPR's part, no reason why V couldn't have given the people at Langley an emergency contact in case something went wrong

>>747685621
I was immersed in the RP of becoming bros with Johnny and trusting him and Rogue in my first playthough and got the "Johnny takes over" ending so it worked out for me :^)

>>747685894
Same
Some retards think having Jeff Bezos money is worth being blind, they would KTS in a week

>>747685431
Ah yes because we can judge what Arasaka will do to the average person based on what happened to THEIR LITERAL LEADER
Are you really that stupid? Saburo's entire thing is that he never stopped fighting WW2, Arasaka is his continuation of Imperial Japan and he seeks world domination which the Engram program would allow him because he'd get control over basically all world leaders

And we know for a FACT that engrams can be edited on account of the V that leaves Mikoshi being like 30 to 85% Johnny instead of V (yes that is what that percentage means, you thought it was a friendship meter?)

>>747685719
Sun doesn't fix anything, it just gives you a bit more time. It just makes you a pawn for an AI who is once again dangling a potential cure for you in front of your face in the hope you bite, which you will. It's the most positive and retains the most potential for V's survival but it's the Hamster wheel ending.

Saying suicide is the realist option but that Temperance is somehow worse is dumb. Your brain and body chemistry is being reconfigured for Johnny. Johnny still has a chance. If you're willing to accept the fact you're already dead, why wouldn't you accept the fact you essentially decided your fate back at Konpeki plaza and Johnny getting your body is just a facet of your death.

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I always wondered in the dlc you can send the Asian lady to the moon to get fixed somehow and one of the endings is you on the moon is there something on the moon that fixes you somehow?

>super secret harder golden ending is 90% the same as any other ending gameplay wise
>They never fix this or address this and instead add a dogshit bad ending with the dlc
Lol CDPR suck at gameplay and only know how to write torture porn

>>747685967
not to mention that even if they thought you were dead, calling them to let them know what happened should have any reasonable person forgive you because none of that shit was your fault

>>747686049
I'd probably go permanently blind for the Bezos money. Drink the best wine and champagne on the market and then kill myself later down the line, maybe a year or two. Doesn't sound bad at all.

>>747686119
Yeah the mcguffin is conveniently out of reach so you can understand it's out of reach
That's literally the only reason

>>747686129
I actually liked Don't Fear the Reaper gameplaywise and consider it the most fun in that regard, it's storywise where it's a letdown since it's just Sun again but Rogue is alive.

>>747686119
In Cyberpunk, Orbital Stations and Moon Bases are major locations for medical and scientific research and development because they get to get away with even more opulent and illegal shit than they would down on Earth.

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Am I the only one who likes giving body to Keanu ending?

I got shot in the head and he brought me back to life for a few months the body rightly belongs to him.

>>747685719
The Sun is basically "I thought David handled things well in edgerunners " ending AKA dodged the moral of the story TWICE AKA I got my 15 minutes of fame and all it costed me was the deaths of my friends and traumatizing my lover for life ending

>>747686083
I played the game seeing dying and merging with the digital phantom in my head as negative things. I have no incentive to give my body to the digital phantom.

>>747686129
The ending is good the way you access it is just retarded and you literally have to put down the controller and go do something else to unlock it as opposed to it just being the result of 100% vibing with Johnny

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For me, its Don't Fear the Reaper into Temperance for the most bittersweet kino ending

>>747686083
The Sun is vague about it's approach since V is in space doing a suicide mission. It leaves the ending up to your interpretation which is why it's the best one

>>747686145
Calling shouldn't even be necessary because most of them know or have been told you're fuckrd
They all conveniently don't know for dramatic effect
It's a classic case of no matter what you do you're an asshole
It's why the suicide ending is the only competently written ending, because it doesn't rely on the ending throwing out the player's choices in their supposed choice driven story

>>747686336
I am completely up for an ending where you kill all your allies but you get to both live and be a legend.

>>747686278
Gameplaywumise the only change is a few turrets and the plaza fight though

>>747685715
>Most Animals have no chrome.
lol

>>747686182
If you like video games to the point you post about them in 4chan you're probably wired to enjoy visual stimuli more than other sensations even more than the baseline normie does, you'd go crazy in a week

>>747686331
Provided something about Johnny has actually changed and he's able to fulfill a legitimate second chance, I could see giving it to him if you're willing to accept V essentially died well before so he might as well give up the reigns and go live in AI heaven with mommy Alt.

>>747684313
If you're gonna kill yourself, why not take down arasaka and Smasher with you?
I'd be funny if you could storm the tower carring nuke.

>>747686378
If only it was hust putting the controller down. You also have to choose a specific set of responses during a particular conversation with Johnny.

>>747681786
i played this twice and only got the ending where you sit on the roof and die. i must be really dumb.

>>747681786
>game shits on you for picking the two lamest options
Another reason to love it.

>>747685431
>Arasaka at worst wants to keep engrams for marketing purposes

this is the same game where corporations are frying politicians with fake memory mind control rays, right? Just checking.

>>747686506
But you also have to do it in one shot, your health is decreasing and they skip all the annoying scripted sequences. I suppose what made it so special for me was that I walked into it on my first playthrough knowing it was secret but not knowing about the first two parts I mentioned and I aced it on whatever the second hardest diffculty was (not that the game is particularly hard).

>>747686529
That would be fun and epic and CDPR can't let you have an ending like that.

>>747686378
Look I know it's the only ending with the best outcome
My issue is the enemies and gameplay associated with it is mostly the same
Also
>Regarding the constant permanent health decay
I made a fucking gorilla and I wasn't in danger of dying on the hardest difficulty, it doesn't change the fact that they didn't really throw anything different at me

>>747686374
If Icarus didn't want to fall into the sea he shouldn't have flown so close to The Sun.

>>747686402
>Bu- But I still have a chance!
Hamster wheel

>>747686529
Yeah just nuke Jackie's mom, Judy and Victor
Fuck em, caring about you unconditionally in the most materialistic city in fiction

>>747686442
it's why it's so retarded, they should have actually made it a reasonable choice where your legacy is dead entirely and most people forget you, but the actual closest friends you made still were around, makes it realistic

course then CDPR would have written an ending people actually wanted to take and we can't have that, it's just spiteful BS

Just storm Arasaka by yourself and shoot yourself in the head before plugging yourself into Mikoshi. Best of both worlds.

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>>747686336
the Sun only fits when you do it as the don't fear the reaper (shooting arasaka by yourself). It fits the narrative of V being the only one that can get himself out of this as that's why in the end he's alone out in space.

>>747686681
Is that supposed to mean anything or is it just empty fatalism and acceptance of mediocrity?

>>747686715
Meant Misty not Judy mb but I guess Judy is cool too

>>747686715
Jackie's mom and Judy don't give a fuck about you as evidenced by the Tower ending

also they're far enough away that a kiloton-range blast wouldn't affect them

>>747683703
being a punk game, it absolutely hates anything resembling muh establishment and will gladly bend over its own rules and good writing to punish you for daring to not think they're irredeemable monsters

>>747686715
Why would i care for Judy? All she does is drag me along on her plot to help a faction of whores to avenge her dead whore friend.

>>747681786
Never chose first ending. Who gets mad at you?
Also ending two you tell no one where you are going right? You just disappear for years

Johnny doesn't deserve a second chance.

>>747686807
Jackie's mom think you ghosted her and I meant Misty who does care, maybe /v/ should had gone with her to Poland in the Tower
>>747686867
>>747686794

>>747683849
>b-but that's something johnny would do!

>>747686867
To be fair she's like the only person broken up about you blowing your brains out

>>747686883
>Who gets mad at you?
Everyone but Judy I think

>>747686864
>punk game
>the estabilishment always wins
>resistance is futile
>just accept you're dead
What a message.

>>747686902
And V does?

>>747686883
Watch on youtube its pretty dark, Panam specifically gets mad enough to wish you to rot in hell but others are mostly heartbroken even Victor

>>747686771
The Sun is literally about V acting out his inferiority complex about having stolen valor because he was AFK for the entire Arasaka Tower hit. That's why he tells Panam he still needs to prove something to himself. Don't Fear The Reaper V doesn't need to prove shit to anyone.

>>747683146
>Trust Arasaka
You do realise the Johnny on the chip was never the real Johnny, right?

>>747681786
you have to be XVIII to post

>>747685719
I chose temperance because I didn't want to storm with panam, seemed fucked up to make her do that since it felt like it was implying whoever goes will die. I didn't know it wouldn't work and Johnny gets my body, so that can't be cucked if you didn't know

>>747686997
V is the player's insert and V is currently alive. It's all that matters.

>>747683558
Star ending ends with a lot of hope and potential for a cure though, considering what those guys in, what, Nevada were able to do with the kids with a cybernetic disease in lore. They have ties to Aldecaldos in a way that i think it's more than reasonable V has a fighting chance with the nomads, it's not really hopeless

>>747686905
>Jackie's mom think you ghosted her
And she doesn't even give you a chance to explain yourself even if you leave a message
Again if I believed someone was ghosting me sent me a message saying they were in a coma for 2 years while knowing they had a serious fucked up illness I would give them a shot to explain

>>747683242
>I bet you did everything Johnny wanted and started dressing like him too
Yes.

>>747687118
In lore V would have ways to not be a useless piece of meat in The Tower, but seeing as the game portrays that as a dead end i don't think lore matters much beyond the immediate events.

>>747687020
Look you keep saying that in every 2077 thread and I still don't care about all that Morgan Blackhand crap or whatever you're on, especially since you have no arguments. There's only three people who could tell real Johnny from fake Johnny apart (Rogue, Kenny and Smasher) and all of them seem to be in agreement.

>>747687060
No V has his own personality that's like saying JC denton is your oc

>>747683242
To be fair to him Johnny's pants and shades look cool, wore em both with a big ass duster and cowboy boots and my Nomad ass was ready to rock

>>747683779
to add to this, out of the three actual friends V had, one is dead, one V comes back and calls him a corpo sellout and the third one is actually happy to see him when they run into each other on the street.

>>747687239
Smasher gives literally 0 fucks about Johnny, his entire interaction with Johnny is getting charged by some punk, blasting him in half with a shotgun, then moving on

Fucking David lasted about 600 times longer than Johnny against Smasher, why the fuck would Smasher even remotely remember him?

>>747683242
And I bet you dress like you work at Clouds you fucking fairy

>>747687245
V is a half insert, as in he's a mix of Geralt and Shepard. I don't say it as a good thing, it seems CDPR couldn't settle on if they wnted him to be a full stand in for the player or his own person. Regardless, V's story is the player's story and that makes him mean more than the dead terrorist.

>>747687118
I think V will be cured because his disease is a narrative meta device, the reason you struggle to get cured in the other endings despite having top tier care is that you didnt leave NC

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>>747684197
Well it's not like you have many options. Female V gets an ugly, brown tattoo gooner goblina and some black dude. Male V gets another brown bitch with attitude issues, and some degenerate depressed faggot

Mind you, it's a city in which you can change your facial structure, your skin and eyes like it's nothing, yet all you get are 4 browns. And they don't even have interesting personalities either

Cp2077 might actually have the worst romance options in any video game ever (or at least in video games that actually matter, Not shovelware)

>>747681786
>plays grimdark game
>gets grimdark ending
does this.. surprise you...?

>>747687060
And soon he'll be dead and Johnny will take over

>>747686807
judy is just a temperamental lesbian bitch but I'm being redundant

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>>747681786
the first time i did that ending it made me tear up the way they talked about V (me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L22U8f9id_o

>>747684292
I think he does tell him, but then he's in a coma for 2+ years with no way to tell anyone cause cause the feds didn't know any of his friends to contact

>>747687458
You dont get cured because the game is mad V is V and not Johnny. Leaving Night City has the same chance of a cure as dealing with some AI guy, just with a different mood.

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>>747687478
>no popstar romance
>no french girl romance
>no president romance
>no asian bdp bitch romance
>only a slice of hot granny romance
>no goth tarot card girl romance
they dropped the ball hard with this one

>>747684313
You say that like V never opposed corps too. You forget V is his own character and not your self insert (i know he should have been, but that's not the game we got)

>>747687218
I'm pretty sure in immediate events at some point before ending choice or during Star you can find or overhear a message Panam specifically sends to Biotechnica, so I think they're still within the picture in some shape or form in game. It's been a few years though so I won't swear to it

>>747687517
Yes, which is what the player should be trying to prevent, unless you feel bad for the digital ghost for some reason.

>>747683242
You correct Johnny by making him do it Solo instead of roping in his girlfriend and fucking over a bunch of innocence. It's the monent that justifies his second chance

>>747686076
The average person doesn’t have access to Save your Soul and as mentioned we know from Lizzy that she’s completely normal after doing an engram. You’re acting like engrams are something forced or something lol, the whole plot point of it is that eternal life is achievable for the rich.

Yes Saburo has a WW2 mindset but at least he only focuses on the US while the NUSA lore wise wants to annex all their neighbors and destroy Japan and the EU. They’re more like Imperial Japan than Arasaka rather ironically but instead of doing it economically like Arasaka they just unleash rogue AIs if you don’t lick their boots and comply. The whole point of Cyberpunk is that nothing is good but you gotta weigh what’s less worse.

Bro have you actually ever played Cyberpunk? Look up what the prototype engram chip does to V's body, it’s not about engrams being edited since V doesn’t have an engram to begin with.

>>747687591
>no goth tarot card girl romance
That's definitely breaking the bro code. She's like the one person who keeps her characterization even throughout Tower, in her case being hung up on Jackie.

>>747687598
V can oppose corps but that hate is only mandatory for pretty much everyone else. V can very much be a corp kiss ass sometimes, even if it has no impact since no choices matter.

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>>747687714
True it's just a mega shame you only get Panam

>>747687693
Saburo literally started corporate WW3 because he thought the head of Militech shot him down during WW2 even though he was decades too young for that. He's senile and insane.

>>747687478
only attractive white guy in the game is the Netwatch agent you meet on your way to massacring the VDB

I stopped playing this game because the endings all suck and you get cucked no matter what

>>747687690
The idea to go alone comes from Johnny, and it seems he only proposes it because you're too torn up trying to choose something.

>>747687570
Different mood can make quite a difference though, ending on a hopeful note as your last action controlling V is to breathe in clean air i think leaves a positive implication that it's a new start because you were able to let go of the city and hold on to something in your search for a cure. Plus Biotechnica is a bit of a fuck up in setting but not as big of a fuck up as like 90% of the other medical groups so I'd take their attempts over an AI guys

>>747687813
and the NUSA President wants to unleash a Blackwall Nuke on her enemies, she's just as insane as Saburo

>>747686331
Don't fear the reaper into temperance is peak, and if I had to choose an ending to be cannon, it would be that.

>>747687873
i'm sorry you have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old and need every game to have a happy ending

>>747687714
original bro code is you have to marry her after a suitable mourning period, your bro trusts you and would want you with her over someone else

>>747687938
I have enough misery in real life, videogames are escapism

>>747684431
For all intensive purposes, V was pretty much a cyberpsycho with all the augs he had. Only reason he didn't lose his mind was the chip was already fucking with it

>>747687923
NTA but Don't fear the reaper is my favorite tower sequence but damn if Star can be topped for me for overall conclusion at the end

>>747687336
I don't know but he clearly does.

>>747687923
I don't like Temperance because it's kind of a nothingburger but giving your body away to Johnny willingly and on your own terms is definitely better

what was the dlc ending again?
something about releasing the infinite void?

>>747687938
It doesn't need to be happy, just satisfying. CP2077 feel like the narrative has to cheat to deliberately prevent a positive ending. It doesn't lead naturally to it.

they went in too hard on the wrong horrible consequences for the Tower ending
the Tower ending should have been a decent ending for V, have him meet up with friends, play it off as the best ending
And then end it with a news story about a Blackwall breach killing thousands in a major city

Ending phone calls are about various people calling V with mention about weird things happening

That's how you do fucked up consequences for what you choose during PL, make it clear that handing Songbird over to the NUSA ends up possibly kickstarting the AI apocalypse and leave players wondering if V manages to live a long life before it all goes to shit or not

>>747687923
don't fear the reaper into sun

For me fits the narrative more. This is V's game not Johnny's

>>747686715
if you choose to get cured (dlc ending) and romanced Judy, she found someone else and got married during the 18 months you were gone.

>>747687938
The game does have a happy ending as an option though is the thing, you literally ride off into the sunset with a new family

>>747687991
CP is "real life but worse: the video game" you should had played a JRPG

>>747688142
and die 6 months later in horrible agony

>>747688201
I dont think that will happen, the themes of the game and the tarot readings give me hope

>>747687397
struck a nerve, huh?

>>747688142
>>747688201
You're already dead the moment you enter mikoshi.

>>747687020
Seems pretty real to me, especially given that his engram was done on a dead body twice with a prototype soulkiller. That "fake" Johnny also grows throughout the story and actually changes his character/personality. Johnny self inserting as being importing is just an ego thing eg the fight with Smasher

>>747688195
I do just that, 90% of the time
Fuck miseryfags

Did they make a mod to randomize the prostitute yet?

>>747688269
What themes? Nihilism is the only way of life, nothing you do has a true impact and give up your dreams and be just another face in the crowd like everyone else?

>>747688201
Not necessarily with the Aldecaldos connections in lore like i mentioned in a few posts in thread, Biotechnica literally has dealt with something comparable to the super AI AIDs is dealing with in game, it's arguably a long shot but it's still in the realm of a legit chance
And even if it isn't, six months with people you care about is still time you get to spend with them

>>747688269
they're nomads, for fucks sake there's a quest where they can't even afford an over-the-counter KIDNEY
how the fuck are they going to help you with something even Arasaka's top researchers in their secret medical blacksite can't help you with? Something where the only known cure involves a one of a kind AI?

Hell the game's news broadcasts even spell it out for you that certain diseases are (nearly-) beyond modern technology to fix, MS finally has a cure (400k eddies a month get fucked lol)

The nomads have 0 way to help you

>>747683558
Being a cog with no way to gain status or power in Cyberpunk is worse than death. Hell your friends also abandon you so you don't even have that.

>>747684639
>>747683579
I think you should have been able to romance Hanako and if you were on good terms with her and Takemura ,convince her to take over the empire one way or another

>>747688285
I think, therefore I am, if V can still display emotions and have thoughts, feelings and opinions then it's the same as the real deal, his soul wasn't killed

>>747685028
Nigga what? The game clearly tells you multiple times the engram isn't the real johnny. Guess it was too subtle for you?

>>747688415
yeh and Saul helpfully tells Biotechnica to go fuck themselves during the course of the questline permanently closing that door
Also the MS broadcast, even if in theory Biotechnica could help you, it would be so ludicrously expensive you could never afford it

>>747681786
>Terminal illness
Didn't realize that having a hole in your head is terminal illness

I beat the secret ending on very hard but I used ba xing chong, does it really count?

>>747688369
Materialism and hypercapitalism is bad and if you chase the greedy delusional dream of becoming a legend in NC the city will chew you up, the only way to escape it is to leave
Judy becoming a regular mom in the tower ending reinforces the theme that you need to just leave the cursed city to be happy

>>747688498
An identical digital clone is not the real person, even if the game likes to blur that line. No amount of pseudo poetic words will change that.

>>747684657
It does feel like her and her brother were meant to be a romance options and someone in CDPR got pissy about it

>>747688116
>You got swindled
>Nothing changes
>Go meet hanako at embers
Bravo poland

>>747684336
I'm still an elite badass; I never installed any augmentations other than the mandatory ones (eyes and hands) from the start of the story.

>>747688452
Arasaka who made the chip couldn't safely remove it but FIA on the East Coast could. It wasn't about Aldecaldos themselves curing you, it was about finding someone who could. Who's to say they won't?
>for fucks sake there's a quest where they can't even afford an over-the-counter KIDNEY
That was before you enriched them with all the 'Saka and Militech loot.

>>747688527
people in 2077 are 50% machine 50% flesh cyborg

that means computer viruses like the engram are the equivalent to digital cancer

>>747688584
They had them killed off because they realized that with Songbird fucking you over big time nobody was going to choose her unless they made Reed kill of people you care about
hence why he kills both the frenchies and the 2 bros at the start of the DLC

>>747684039
Except you don't call any of the nomads, you call your insecure, hotheaded girlfriend panam who already thinks you left her and probably told all the clan the same thing

>>747688572
Judy is a fucking loser who got all her friends killed and her kid is probably an AIDS baby. Fuck Judy.

>>747688572
What if i don't want to be happy and settle for friends and love and all that stuff? What if i want to be a corpo or a lengendary merc? It's clearly possible, you meet people who made it and you walk a path that leads to it that is prevented not because of choices you made but by a last minute complication the narrative creates to make such an objective feel impossible.

>>747688645
Anon you really think that they are going to use any loot they got from that tower? They're not insane, that stuff is absolutely ridden with trackers, if they took anything worth taking from the tower 'Saka ninjas would be all over them in days

And again the only way FIA can remove your chip is if you give them a one-off AI

>>747688515
Considering the eddies i had endgame I'd buy the corporation that cured MS twice over
Plus you seem to forget that V beat the odds thousands of times already in game, even if it's a thread, there's still a thing to reach for in Star that other endings lack, doing jobs for Bio is well within his skillset
Not that it matters much since we're just in the realm of speculation at this point, but V in game was exceedingly capable and he wouldn't just suddenly stop being competent as soon as the camera stopped rolling

>>747688527
It doesnt even make sense
>The chip works fine
>But you conveniently work perfectly as you were backed up perfectly
>But the chip is conveniently buggy/damaged in such a contrived way you get to have the plot happen the way it happens and have the outcomes looming the way they do
And this all seems to be because CDPR is conveniently as detailed or as vague as it needs to be while clearly never having consulted any sci fi writers or scientists in the matter

>>747688452
I think the reason you cant be cured is that you didnt give up on NC on those endings, there is a meta supernatural aspect of the game (tarots)
Also lorefags claim the place they are taking you has a good chance to cure you, even if you get tower ending crippled you'd still be with the Aldecados so its a happy ending still

>>747688624
Nothing i can say but you're not. Even if it contradicts gameplay you're now truly normal and so basically defenseless.

>>747688710
Game removes that option because of the plot. You stay alive as a legendary merc by not keeping grudges or doing stupid shit for greater causes.

>>747688762
>Considering the eddies i had endgame I'd buy the corporation that cured MS twice over
400k eddies a month anon, I doubt you ended up with 10 million eddies

>>747684006
This is one of the biggest problems with the DLC. Supposedly they couldn't get Panam's voice actor back so they did this. It never made sense and if nothing else she should have been there for you, saved your ass and had the gang look out for you now that you were a normalfag, given what you did for her when you were an overpowered killing machine. There's also the issue of
>Oh we can't have the ending here be "better" than the mainline Panam ending where you drive off into the desert not knowing if you die or not
THey can get fucked for not having the balls for an actual bittersweet ending for being a normalfag but having the entire gang and your brown waifu looking after you as a hero.

Then again it was equally stupid that you couldn't be an agent for either NUSA (ie their JC Denton, along with Johnny as Paul) or get cured by Songbird/BlueEyes and end up working for NightCorp/BlackwallAIs. Those should have been other options, but we should have also gotten another DLC than the one we got, so lots of fuckups here

>>747688710
Play the tabletop then
The devs wanted to push a greed bad family good narrative

>>747688762
>Plus you seem to forget that V beat the odds thousands of times already in game
V should be dead by rights twice over in the baseline story and once or twice again depending on the Route you choose in Phantom Liberty.

>>747688762
>but V in game was exceedingly capable and he wouldn't just suddenly stop being competent as soon as the camera stopped rolling
the Tower ending helpfully makes it clear that yes, they stop being competent the moment the cameras stop rolling

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>>747688572
>Judy becomes a mom
Wait isn't Judy a lesbian? Does she really cuck you like that in Tower? You were so bad in the sack she became straight?

>>747688762
>he wouldn't just suddenly stop being competent as soon as the camera stopped rolling
Yeah but CDPR wrote this
>The second you go to get cured in the DLC everyone forgets why you would disappear for 2 years and you're an irredeemable dick for doing that
Lol

>>747685621
Any implication this game was an rpg died on launch day. You're a retard for thinking the dlc will suddenly make it one

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Don't fear the reaper/Suicide are best endings
>V lives out his dream of being a famous merc by walking into a megacorp, killing everything in sight
>also kill Smasher, who has been around for years as the living legend
OR
>End it on your own terms, choose when you exit this world with the least amount of bloodshed total.
Both are very good. I also like how Johnny becomes your friend and the reaper ending being an extension of that is very nice. I do wish that there was more buildup before Johnny decides to stop being a dickhead though, like almost immediately he starts trying to play nice.

>>747688756
Arasaka has bigger troubles after that ending, namely getting destroyed by miltech

>>747685684
>Implying NC didn't repo all your stuff in your apartment(s) 10 minutes after missing first week's rent

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>>747681786
>>747682540
Don't Fear the Reaper will always be the canon ending for me, 'cause I got it first try without having looked anything up. Admittedly it was because I had to take a piss break and get a drink, but it still counts.

>>747688756
>They're not insane, that stuff is absolutely ridden with trackers, if they took anything worth taking from the tower 'Saka ninjas would be all over them in days
Dude you're arguing with the game. In Sun you get rich off that loot without issue. FFS they steal a tank from Militech, I'm sure they can launder 'Saka server farms or whatever the fuck.
>And again the only way FIA can remove your chip is if you give them a one-off AI
As if they'd ever waste that on you. America just does it better, suck it japs! Three nukes weren't enough.

>>747688904
Cyberpunk universe has fairly affordable treatments where they create a sperm cell out of your partner's DNA and then fertilize you with

Lesbians can have kids easily, hell even gays can have kids, reverse treatment is possible, it's just a lot more expensive to hire an artificial womb

>>747688881
Game instead of being GTA with rpg stats should have been ann actual rpg. Should of had paths mirroring Blackhand, Silverhand, Smasher, or something.

>>747688857
It was dumb that they didn't make the DLC entirely separate from the base game. The Car stuff and the handful of missions that take place outside of Dog Town could have easily been adapted to occur in the area. I agree that your choices should have resulted in a trio of endings where you get approached by different corporations or entities to help you out.

>>747688763
The chip is supposed to be used on freshly-dead bodies to upload a new personality.

>>747688914
In night city looks is everything
>Your options for cock is chode and chode with no balls
>Your options for tits are mosquito bites on man chest and A cups
The only impressive thing about 2077 is how much original music production went into the radio stations

>>747687923
>>747688134
I think both could work, it's more a question of "Yeah Johnny is a fucking prick but he's shown he has a caring side to him. Do you think he deserves another chance at life?" Personally I do think that V should get his ending in the Sun, and Johnny seems to agree that his ride has gone on long enough, not wanting to screw over V

>>747686119
She got "fixed" the same way your old dog gets sent to the farm to live peacefully

>>747687813
>However, Arasaka and Militech's role in the conflict had grown beyond their contractual obligations of security, supplies, and advising. Due to the years of tension between the two, in part due to Donald Lundee's actions, and multiple "accidental" damage caused to each other's assets, the war became personal. While the battles between CINO and OTEC ended in early 2022, a shadow war between the two security corps continued.[3]
Regarding the fourth corporate war you’re referring to. Lundee has been antagonizing and doing some behind the back shit escalating it the same way, yeah Saburu did believe Lundee was his rival from WW2 but despite thinking this for decades he never engaged Militech until they gave him reason to.

>>747689058
Dunno if agree, it would just be another Deus Ex if they didnt go the full open world route

>>747688787
So it's not an RPG, just a bad game; I did everything without ever visiting a ripperdoc. If they were able to regrow my eyes and the skin on my hand, then nothing stops me from going back to being the invincible merc I am , the one who finish 10 missions in an hour.

>>747689013
>Anon accidentalyl dartboarded his answers correctly in the porsche mission
The fact that you need to somehow be speicifically an ass and supportive in that to unlock it is retarded

>>747686715
Wasn't it a nuke that got set off the first time they stormed Arasaka years ago?

>>747686515
This is correct, they use Bioware which is almost entirely absent from the game and would be the perfect solution to Tower V's problem.

>>747689069
Yeah but what about the part where
>You and Jackie are inexplicably backed up but not really in a way that matters, literally specifically in. The worst way possible but Jackie is sorta backed up so you can have a sad moment of him acting all demented or whatever
It's manipulative to a comical degree

>>747689098
>how much original music production went into the radio stations
You mean the tranny commie band who had to quit because the lead singer had a heart attack?

>>747689065
One of the biggest annoyances I had was the amount of
>pocket dimension DLCs
like Phantom Liberty and Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree where nothing you do affects anything in the "main game" and you go and finish it, then move back off to do the "normal stuff" with no differences (unless you take the one shitty ending in CP2077 designed to fuck with you from the DLC).

There's so much wasted potential. We never got the 2nd Blood and Wine level DLC, we never got Edgerunners content, the Phantom Liberty stuff was all shitty nearly universally and lacked real ending branches etc. None of it had to be this way. I actually thought about modding in at least the one Panam ending in The Tower "good" variant, but apparently mod tools are so shitty you can't do anyhting except a bunch of dick replacement cosmetic style garbage.

>>747689201
those answers were pretty logical
you're not being an ass, you're giving him a well needed reality check, you're telling him he fucked up and has one shot to make it up to you

>>747687003
So OP is an autist that misses the nuisance of the situation?

>>747689201
I think it's more of being critical about Johnny. You need to tell him he's being a dickhead or he won't learn anything. The one line is about Johnny betraying your trust, and you need to say 'Yeah Johnny you did fuck up by breaking my trust.', then you get the option to forgive him.

>>747689058
I think being more of a GTA might have actually been better provided the game was a bit harder than GTA is. The City is kind of dull outside of combat and honestly I like Cyberpunk when it's a bit more grounded. The Super Speed Cybernetics and the Bluetooth hacking are okay for gameplay but sort of conceptually dumb from a world design perspective.

An Arsenal of cool weapons and grenades and a sandbox approach to missions in 3rd person with a competent cover/companion system would have been cool.

>>747689201
Yeah, reading about it later I was shocked, I had no idea it was connected to anything because I was sure I'd fucked up whatever bonus I was gonna get by picking the right answers.

>>747688832
I'm not being hyperbolic saying I had at least 4 or 5 million bare minimum towards the end because I found one of the sniper rifles you could craft gave out a really really good craft to sell profit and so I made a fuck ton of them alongside killing everything I could see in Pacifica multiple times

>>747689326
>>747689323
>>747689201
>an RPG where 99.999% of choices don't matter
Polak Excellence

>>747689139
Lundee wasn't the head of Militech for decades

>>747688787
>Truly normal
V Says the procedure fucked them up royally and they conveniently aren't compatible with any augments because the plot said so, so they're handicapped and not allowed a proverbial wheelchair
The guilt writing is literally the equivalent of 2 12 year olds saying why their dad could totally kick any other dad's ass, WITH no backsies
It's fucking annoying

>>747689379
congrats that buys you 10 months of life, possibly less because it's more experimental treatment

you can't afford this shit, this is billions of eddies level of treatment you need

>>747689424
Name 10 RPGs where your choices matter even 50% of the time.

>>747689424
Fun fact: in the DLC roulette game where you have to earn the twins trust, you can pick any options and still pass. The choices don't matter.

>>747689453
10 months? More than enough time to craft more sniper rifles....

Why didn't V just get a scan of his brain and transfer it to a fullborg body?
Probably the only real solution

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>>747685719
I literally made sure I was maxed out and armed to the teeth because I knew I was going for Don't Fear the Reaper, Adam Smasher went down like a bitch because it was pre-PL netrunner build and then I went for the Sun. It felt like the correct option, a big risk but with the types of connections and bullshit Mr. Blue Eyes had, if the heist goes well V's a free man. Either he gets fixed up or goes out in a blaze of glory and we don't get to see which happens

>>747687239
Firstly. First time I've said this, so cut the paranoid schizo crap.
Secondly, it may be an identical replication of Johnny from outside looking in, but the simple fact is that the real, original johnny is dead. No if, or, and but about it. If V takes that route he is, as we know him, dead and replaced by a digital copy. It's still not the original V. Simple as that

>>747688645
>FIA on the East Coast could
Wouldn’t call that safely. Iirc they use Blackwall AI matrices on you to "fight off" the relic? Makes sense they turned off you chrome in the inevitable case you go cyberpsycho.

>>747689490
wait for real? that's so beyond stupid

God I wish the game had Deus Ex: HR style dialog boss battles, that was absolute peak

>>747689201
>>747689424
Makes no sense I need fucking johnny to tell me while I ponder, afk on a shitty lawn chair
"Just do it yourself"
Like what is V retarded?

>>747685719
I chose Rogue my first time around when I went in blind, it seemed like if anyone could help pull it off it'd be her.

>>747689520
Did you not play the game? What would that have accomplished? The chip was actively eating his neurons and restructuring his body to accommodate Johnny's Engram. Swapping to a robotic body wouldn't have stopped that his neurons would still be fucked and a scan of his brain would still be a scan of a brain transferring to being Johnny.

>>747689324
What's new?

>>747689480
>Other games do it so one more game doing it is acceptable
Even if there were no other games that doesn't mean this one is great by virtue of others not rising to the occasion

>>747689609
Yes.

>>747689678
Don't put words in my mouth you little bitch, I want that list so I can make sure I played them. God damn. Weak ass.

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>>747689480
Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 2
Alpha Protocol
New Vegas
Baldur's Gate 3
Oblivion
Divinity 2
Dragon Age Origins
Deus Ex
Deus Ex Human Revolution

>>747688306
See
>>747689556
He is a "real" person, but not the "real" johnny. Just a copy. You're looking at him from a third person view and not understanding it in a first person sense

>>747681786
>ghost friends out of nowhere and never get back in contact with them
>them getting pissed is somehow their fault

>>747689490
My favorite one is the part where you need to get to the creepy ripperdoc with long nails who worked on Evelyn and a bunch of bitches don't want to let you skip in line and your choices are pay eddies, use a skillcheck, or just use a regular dialogue option with no requirements that accomplishes the same thing. The only time the illusion worked for me was when you could tell Pierre Woodman at Clouds that you'd do to him what you did to Jotaro Shobo if he doesn't fall in line, but I bet there was twenty other ways to accomplish the same outcome if you didn't do that sidequest, and it's not like killing him actually changes anything. In a Bioware or a Bethesda game keeping him alive would've probably unlocked the good ending for Clouds, but in this game it just does nothing.

>>747688624
That's a good point. How does V have bio eyes in the cured ending?

>>747689428
He officially did in 2004. That’s almost 2 decades since the 4th corpo war and Saburo didn’t do shit in that time despite multiple antagonization attempts from Lundee.

>>747689301
Your first mistake was thinking this is an RPG. It's a linear movie game where you occasionally have two dialogue choices that immediately branch into the same line.

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>>747689805
Damn. Played 'em all.

>>747689327
>An Arsenal of cool weapons and grenades and a sandbox approach to missions in 3rd person with a competent cover/companion system would have been cool.
This sounds awful.

>>747689854
there's one quest where the good ending is locked behind a specific dialog choice, the DLC quest with that one boxer
the only way he doesn't end up dead is if you tell the animals to fuck up or what happened to their boss you'll do to them

>>747689556
Real Johnny is dead, just like real V post-Mikoshi. But it is a genuine copy of Johhny. Some guy keeps talking about how engram Johnny is actually a fusion of Johnny and Morgan Blackhand, if this ain't you then disregard what I've said.

>>747689773
I don't need a list
I sure as fuck don't need 10 games
The point is there may not be 10 games out there that do, but there are games that did with less budget, and not necessarily to completion, but they made an effort rather trimming all the fact and leaving in all the shit that borders on torture and guilt porn

>>747689805
Mass Effect gameplay with the addition of some free roam in a city of little side missions and interactables for you and your crew to go on would have been a lot better for the Cyberpunk feeling.

Every time I slaughter Max Tac for funsies and see them working together to take me down I'm just sort of left feeling this game could have been a lot funner if V had a squad of his own like the Prologue hinted at with T-bug and Jackie.

>>747689885
I think that he can handle normal implants like a phone and stuff, but heavy stuff like mantis blades, other organ cybernetics/neural shit like a Sandevistan, and likely he couldn't do quickhacks or anything like that.
V could still be a merc, he'd just be EXTREMELY nerfed and would probably have to change what kind of jobs he does

>>747689969
There's no way there aren't at least ten RPGs out there where 50% of the choices matter.

>>747689058
Well that WAS the original intention, but CDPR is full of diversity hires that cant make a game to save themselves