This is a "city" in award-winning and best-seller game Skyrim
>>747682229Who cares nigga, this game made me cum more than pornhub.
>>747682229Just wait for Project Tamriel to get there
>>747682229>10 remasters>no lore accurate sized cities and more buildings to replace the copyandpasted ones
>>747682706there's JK mods at least or however they're called
>>747682229>This city used to be big but a storm destory most of everthing>4 buildings and 4 destroyed buildings
>>747682229>Picks the one area that canonically got blown to bits due to retardationAt least pick Morhal or something.
>>747682853Sounds like half the city got destroyed
>>747682864Morthal is boring but it just should be a big town, not a city. Winterhold being smaller than Morthal is a disgrace.Also am I the only one who confuses the city names sometimes because of them being similar?Windehlm - WinterholdMorthal - Markath
>>747682229Oh you mean the game where also there's an apocalyptic world ending return of dragons into the world but also the dragons literally do nothing but fly around in random fields the whole game and also you kill your first dragon at level 1 right off the bat? Yeah, that's more or less what I would expect a "city" to look like in a game with that caliber of roleplaying
>>747683060Also said dragons are supposed to be intelligent but only 3 actually talk and the rest act like dumb animals.
>>747682229what do they eat?
>>747683248What's their tax policy?
>>747683327They eat their taxes
>>747683038Also pretty funny that they just threw in a discount Leyawiin
>>747683248exclusively fish and snowberriesoccasionally falmer ears
>>747683248Probably dragon meat, given how easy dragons are to kill
>>747682229actually it's the remains of the city, the rest fell in the seayou'd know that if you'd played the gamebut yea, cities in skyrim are tiny by modern standards
>>747684218>the rest fell in the seano ruins what-so-ever aroundYOU would know that if you played the game nigger
>>747682853The city used to be on the same shelf that the college rests on the last pillar of. It was a stone city in the same style of the college and was located around it. The thatched roof town was built outside the city proper to house refugees after the Collapse including the jarl. It stagnated and people moved away over the years, explaining the ruined houses
>>747682229The rest is the city fell into the sea, but even lore wise are nords just niggers with snow living in straw. Tech wise you gotta remember they had to work with 512mb VRAM consoles, best course of action would be cities as their own cells like Markarth, Whiterun or Windhelm for example but I guess that would take away from the more important places like the college of Winterhold in this case.
>>747684701>even lore wise are nords just niggers with snow living in strawSolitude is the only city that looks like an actual city so I guess yeah, building with stone is forgotten tech for nords
>>747682229>mfw bethesda didn't create 9 different unique handcrafted city with 10000+ npc for consoles with 256mb ram Truly horrible game
So I've never used a horse, can anyone explain how do horses work in Skyrim? I know that you can buy them, ride them and fast travel with them, but:1. What if your horse dies for whatever reason? You need to buy a new one? Couple times I've stolen a random horse and it died under me when I jumped off like 4 meter ledge.2. Can you summon your horse somehow, for example if you leave it nearby? Or will it just fuck off?3. Does the horse stay with you if you (fast) travel on your own? Like if I teleport to a city will I find it in stables or again do I need to buy a new one?
>>747684929That's a nice strawman. You must be proud of it.
>>747684218If the rest of the city fell into the sea, then why isn't it down there in the sea?
>>747684929Pelegiad, a small town built around a fort, is larger than major Skyrim cities
>>747682706If they tried to make properly sized cities with the level of interactability they're known for the engine would implodeYou will never see proper cities in a TES game until Bethesda get better technology or radically change their design philosophy
https://strawpoll.com/1Mnwkar9jn7Doing a poll on age of /v/ermin, vote now!
>>747682229Where is the DEI and shit on the streets? Did a nazi make this?
>>747684218>>747684552>no trace of the city found in the water at all
>>747685181It's noticably harder to shit on a street when it's that cold and also there's only one street in town and all 6 inhabitants know each other.
>>747682229>this used to be a city in the award-winning and best-selling game Skyrimftfy saar
>>747682706Wait for ai games, it WILL be able to do that
>>747685293okay but poop would be pretty warm right? can you get a poop frozen projectile?
>>747685278it would be so fucking simple to do also, modder could do it in an hour tops
>>747685278The waves were so strong it swept the city into the sea
>>747685107>>747685278We wouldn't want to put anything remotely interesting underwater in a game with water breathing magic.
>>747685524Imagine picking an argonian because you can breathe underwater...there's nothing underwater
>>747682704Will this have College of Magic as well?
>>747685124this lmao. morrowind is an ancient piece of shit and mogs skyrim hard. small indie company though PREASU UNDASTANDU!!!!
>>747682229The concept of a sense of scale does not exist to the Bethesdrone. From their autistic point of view, every single building needs to be fully explorable with its own unique quest inside of it or it's not a real city. One can only imagine, if they ever head into an actual city, what they act like.>AAAHHH WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T JUST WALK INTO EVERY SINGLE APARTMENT COMPLEX I SEE>WHAT'S THE POINT OF ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE>THIS CITY IS PURE FILLER
>>747685981see >>747685096
>>747685524uh that's what modders are for dumb dumb
>>747684929
>>747686387forgot to post pic of myself
>>747682229Kino
>>747684929lol
>>747685323>two more weeks
>>747686783No vision
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12811
>>747685323>>747686783>>747687297ai in games comes whether we want it or not, with studios desperately looking for savings and human beings always being the most expensive thing they will keep on trying and eventually it will be just okay enough for people not to care, like many people can listen to hour of music and not even notice it's AI generated
>>747684929>strawman>painfully unfunny>broken ESLbabble
>a bloody civil war has engulfed all of Skyrim!>it's the last battle, the stormcloacks have massed their troops to assault the capital city of solitude!
>>747687429based, even overkill
>>747687502>7 warriors>2 dieStormcloaks will never recover from this
/v/ is still malding over a game that is FIFTEEN YEARS OLD more time has passed between Skyrim release date and today than between Skyrim release date and Super Mario 64 release date
>>747682229Praise talos for modshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztNOpx81jcc
>>747687985They should just put all thease in a new game and release that, having to find each and every one of thease mods like a needle in a haystack is simply not worth the time.
>>747685323im sorry you're indian but ai is regurgitation of ideas and bastardization of art
>>747685031your horse can die and you'll have to buy a new one. this can happen without you seeing itbought horses will stay exactly where you leave them, unless they aggro on something and chase after it. there is no 'summon horse' button but when you fast travel, the horse will always appear beside you. you will know your horse is dead when you fast travel and it doesnt appear.
Has there ever been an impressive video game city that the entire video game does not take place in? Feels like making a real life city just makes the game part of the game way more annoying.
>>747689287Thanks anon.So it sounds like I would keep losing/killing my horse, then again 1000 gold is not that much.
>>747688423Steam mods were a mistake. They should have taken a page out of Blizzard’s playbook and let the modders create stuff independently and then once it becomes popular send them a cease and desist letter, steal the content and then repackage it into a $30 DLC.
>>747689360Cities from Witcher 3. Even ignoring Novigrad which is a whole zone in itself even smaller ones like Crow's Perch and Oxenfurt are quite nice.
>>747689456Skyrim doesn't have Steam Workshop support dude
>>747687982Akshually it's 14 years, 10 months and 4 days old
>>747689549I’ve never actually paid for Skyrim but I’m pretty sure it does.
>>747687481you're describing garbage devs making an inferior product to cut costs and cattle humans, probably projecting yourself unto them. it will be inevitable for some devs that suffer from competency crisis, but good devs and games that don't use slop will still be made
This is the "capital" of the largest power in Tamriel.
>>747689396That's why Shadowmere you get from Dark Brotherhood questline is so valuable, because it has so quick health regen it's aomost unkillable in combat, so unless you ride it down a mountain it's almost guaranteed to not die from bullshit.
>>747689708And it wasn't even built by them.
>>747683248food, most likely
The excuse is that NPCs have routines. Well, then, create some houses with NPCs who don't have routines. They just wander around town randomly every now and then, and then go back home and sit in a chair.
while we're at itis oblivion still playable? I only ever played it at release and had good memories so I'm thinking picking it up again. also should I bother with the remake?
>>747682852most of these "overhauled city" mods just fill them to the brim with assets like trees and such but its still the same 10 or so NPCs living in the same 8 or so houses.Winterhold was one of the overhauls I liked though since it actually turns it into a big ruined city, reminded me of the Necropolis from Fable TLC.
>>747689560Can't wait for Todd to break mods again for 15 anniversary
>>747689629I'm literally looking at it on Steam and it doesn't
>>747687982And I'll never stop making fun of it or oblivion hahaha
>>747689975Skyrim NPCs don't even have that impressive routines. A few make a walk around the town and maybe sit in a tavern come evening and most won't do even that.
>>747690113(You)
>>747690205>Skyrim NPCs don't even have that impressive routines.Yeah it's mogged by Gothic 1/2 in that regard
I'm curious how much zoomer-infested /v/ is so I made a pollhttps://strawpoll.com/1Mnwkar9jn7The more the votes the more accurate the result will be
why do people have such unrealistic expectations for bethesda while covering for shit like avowed
>>747690423>covering for shit like avowedbut avowed was shat onjust because roach king liked it doesn't mean it hasn't been shat on
>>747690423>unrealistic expectationslike what? Having lore-friendly cities?Please leave the multi-billion dollar corporation alone!
>>747690423>being held to your previous game's standard is "unrealistic"
>>747690046Capital Whiterun expansion actually expands it with new districts and npcs.There's one for windhelm too.
>>747690304>26-35>millenialGen Z starts at 1997, so 27 and 28 year olds also count as zoomers
>>747691059nobody cares, those are rough estimates, different publications show different border dates
Option A>tons of buildings>looks like a more realistic town>most buildings are copy paste or barebonesOption B>low number of buildings>doesn't look like a realistic town>most buildings have content and thought put into themPick one.>"errrmmm what about muh Option C where its a lot of buildings and all of them have content"Not realistic in terms of developing a larger game.
>>747691296Only good post itt
>>747691296Listen RETARDHow about they make similar towns like they did in their previous games RETARD, or like Witcher 3 didYou disingenuous faggot RETARD with your RETARD strawman false dichotomy D-tier """"argument""""How do you not forget to breathe sometimes, RETARD?
>>747691296Option C>low number of buildings>doesn't look like a realistic town>only a few have any kind of content and the rest are copy pasted and uninterestingSeriously how many of the houses in pic matterered?
>>747691517>arena/daggerfallOption A>morrowindOption A>OblivionOption B with a different aesthetic>Witcher 3Option AThere comes a point where more does not mean better. Game designers know this. It's why, at most, they'll give a few buildings with content and then the rest just can't be entered because they know people will complain that most of them are just empty or don't have anything.
>>747691296There's Option C which is having one really big, fleshed out city, but it's the only real city in the game which is how Enderal did it.I personally much prefer how Bethesda did it in Skyrim though, I don't have an issue understanding the cities as an abstraction of their real intended size and they're pretty immersive as is.
>>747691954Okay I should add though Winterhold is definitely pushing it, having like 4 buildings is way too far for a hold capital when it's been rebuilt for 50 years.
>>747691296In the end real cities arent fun to play in, when the game involves going outside and adventuring the cities are way lower on the priority list. The point of video game cities is for quest givers and to restock stuff on the shop, there's no reason to do anything else in a city unless you really love sewer levels then you gotta ask why are there monsters in a populated city
>>747691296Hilarious that you think Option B in any way describes Skyrim
>>747682229Looks cool
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>>747682706Play the Elder Kings mod for Crusader Kings 2 or 3, you at least get the scale of Tamriel as a whole
>>747682282Tranny behavior
>>747690749Vivec is fucking cancer to traverse
>>747686293strawman implies you can't go into literally any thread about this topic from the last 10 years and see people making this exact argumentbut I see you felt a little too called out by the "strawman" and lashed out
