<CLASSIC JAPANESE GAME> was finally translated into English!!! ...by AI>the translation:
>>747701618It mean she suffered little harm EOL poster.
>>747701618Still better than the average official translation
>>747701618Even better, it was AI translated into english from a korean AI translation of the japanese original.
>>747701618Quite literally better than nothing >b-b-butBetter than *nothing*
>>747702350Nah, I'd prefer nothing
>>747701618Also note the fact that no magazine or even internet forum has ever produced a single screenshot of its gameplay. People always just post art from it.
>>747702439Can you explain what the webm has to do with your post?
>>747701618Are you doing OCR? Where its reading that as 3 seperate lines or are you hooking the text where it gets it all into one line and it makes more sense?
>>747701618EOPs keep losing they dont have the attention span to do anything but shitpost and goon
>>747701618MTLs using good model and with an will be better than official translations from gayass western branches or people like 8-4 100% of the time
>>747701618they'll have to do a few passes and change fonts but it'll be fixed soon enough
>>747703221Fucking speech to text...>MTLs using a good AI model and with an editor will be better 100% of the time
>>747703221>>747703347Ironically these projects don't have editors or even playtesters.
>>747703221both are bad at the momentfor me, it's waiting another few years and AI TLing games then
>>747703391Ive seen recent projects where people spend their own money to use two different high-end models, edit it with a fine comb, and release all their tools for anyone who might want to do their own translation and people still complain
>>747703581And yet you fail to name the projects in question. Curious.
>>747703416Half the stuff I see released these days I'd already better than comparable games official translations. People seriously even complain about shit like AI translated Kyuutenkai Fantastic Pinball where it's clear they don't give two shits about the quality and wouldn't be able to tell if no one told them they just complain because it's AI related
>>747701618The attention algorithm that underpins all modern day LLMs was developed by Google specifically for Google Translate. There is no reason why modern day LLM translations shouldn’t be at least serviceable. Like enough to get you an accurate, literal translation with nothing in the way of style or personality so you can at least know what is going on. Unfortunately for EOPs, the soul is still locked behind putting in the effort to learn.
>>747703221OP is literally the result of a 'good' MTL. AI thinks all words are math formulas and words all have their own individual counter part in other xyz language, it doesnt contextualize language nor does it realize that language is dependent on cultural milieu and semiosis You're too dumb for this argument so im just going to call you a white EOP retard:Shut the fuck up you white TRANNY!!!! go jerk off!!!
>>747703793I simply refuse to subscribe to the idea that bad is good because worse exists. AI will get better and so there's no reason to settle for some of the slop that people churn out now.
>>747703221>than official translationsWhat you don't understand is that those translators are official in name only. Many early games have basic errors that could be avoided just by opening a dictionary. Whatever random guy picked up by Konami, Square or any other Japanese game company weren't occupied for their credentials. They were picked because they happened to be there. This is what set the standard for game translation and has persisted to this day. You're not comparing AI to competent translators, you're comparing AI to the equivalent of that guy co-worker who you heard knows some Chinese.
>>747702350Not really. It discourages other prospective translators from doing a better job on the same VN.
why not do 3?why 4?
>>747701618Honestly most AI translations have advanced to a point that are serviceable to pretty good as long as they're directly translated from Japanese to English. The only consistent problem I see is that it still has the age old mtl issue of just flipping a fucking coin on character's pronouns so guys might randomly be referred to as She and vice versa.
>>747703909*Weren't picked for their credentialsWhat the fuck happened there?
>>747701618what AI is this bad, are they translating it with the free api korean knock off AI?
>>747703921No it doesn't, why you keep repeating this. Many games have gotten AI translations and later received official not AI releases on Steam.
>>747703930retard
>>747702350B E T T E R T HA N N O T H I NG
>>747704018yes?
>>747701618Infinitely better than the crap fantranslations spics made in the 2000s
>>747703921>subhuman localizers won't get to defile the VN with retarded memes and zoomerspeakoh nohow horrible
>>747704121your entire reality is twitter screencaps posted in 4chan, that are already out of context shitposts
>>747703670It was something posted on the repo a month or two ago. There's so many projects that I really don't remember what it was, but it's really not rare to find projects where people are using more than one AI model and cross referencing and stuff. They literally spend their own money and release all the tools and you faggots still just bitch about it like it cost you something. Why didn't you start a project to translate Langrisser or something?
>>747704169and yet you still fail to mention the projects in question. curious
>>747704162>don't believe your lying eyes and physical evidence trust me, some random retard running damage control
>>7477016184 is just DLC. The full experience isn't possible without 2 and 3 save data. Still waiting on that translation of 3 to show any progress.
>>747701618Did SW4 really get translated??
>>747704169>projects where people are using more than one AI model and cross referencing and stuffThat is not an editor you retard.If ones with editors are not rare then surely you can find one in a minute or two.
>>747704268you're a stupid, impressionable goy tranny and it's not my problem to fix you
>AI is good now! it doesn't make stupid mistakes like it used to!meanwhile in reality
>>747704215Whatever one I'm thinking of he only used two but had some paragraphs talking about how he did it and everything, but here I went and clicked a random MTL for you and this one he used 3 AI models.https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7599/Now why don't you download the tool kit and make a better fan translation or are you just going to act like a little bitch and complain about other people actually trying to do something?
>>747704495>no editor and not playtestedlmao
>>747703347>Fucking speech to text...>>747703221motherfucker here using fucking SPEECH TO TEXT to POST ON 4CHANwhat the fuckFUCK
>>747704495doing something would mean learning japanese, not translating for EOP animals
>>747704596@Grok type out a rebuttal explaining why using TTS is enlightened and smart.
>>747704447LMAO you're floundering
>>747704784FUCK WRONG WINDOW
>>747704494What is wrong about this?
>>747704596Sorry, but the site being trash now means it gets relegated to my phone. If I'm on my computer I'll still use some other image board even if they're dead as shit.If I'm not taking a shed or something it's really not worth talking to you guys.>>747704541Nothing will be good enough for you luddite faggots. My point is the majority of these days aren't low effort. Here's the last one posted for example another just picked from random, and it's pretty obvious even if he's not hiring an editor that the guy is putting effort into editing https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7697/
>>747704826typical twitteroid response
>>747704316didn't 2's TL get finished recently?I'd assume that team would move onto 3
>>747704869The Langrisser V patched released with all this shit wrong or missing. Shit that you would catch on a first, casual pass through the game.That PROVES it's low effort shit.
>>747704869I don't see what the problem is. Do you expect an actual quality translation is going to make every autismo, bitch, whiner, weirdo, all the other fuckers who aren't competent at all in japanese enough to even evalutate the quality of a translation is? A baseline number of motherfuckers will bitch no matter what. And that includes if you do nothing.
>>7477050271 and 2 on Saturn have translations done.4 used the precursor to Mass Effect's save data transfer where it would require save data from the Dreamcast port of 2.
People eating up MTL saying it's good enough kills my motivation to TL it properly myselfI also hate people eating up shit translations done by hacks and then saying MTL bad
>>747704846It's supposed to be SaGa (サガ) and somehow shit out SaSa (ササ).
>>747705115>save data from the Dreamcast portit's over...
>>747705101>baseline number of motherfuckers will bitch no matter whatThe baseline motherfuckers that will defend the translation no matter what is way higher. If someone plays the game and has fun in spite of a poor translation, they're going to stand by the translation because of a mix of sour grapes. making the game part of their personal identity. and because there are literally no standards. You have to really suck at your job to translate a Japanese video game and actually get push-back for fucking it up.
>>747704316>4 is just DLC. The full experience isn't possible without 2 and 3 save dataNo one is ever going to translate ST 1 and 2 for the Dreamcast. Hope you have been studying japanese!
>>747701618The roads for western translations for Japanese games are either>AI translations>Translations made by people who openly hate the playerbase and the medium and do their absolute best to """own""" the people they don't likeI should've learnt Japanese when I had the chance during covid...
Maybe stop being a dekinai and start learning Wapanese if you can't into the language
>>747701618Thats why they prefer BWC
>>747701618On the other side, look at the work of the actual translators:
>>747705257A reasonable claim but that's not what OP is bitching about.
>playing weebshit
>>7477052943 is beatable using the GameFAQ translation written over 20 years ago. Just pull up that on your phone or a second monitor.
>>747704869>only 1 person ob the projectLittle harm again'd...
>>747705352>actual translatorsNeeds to be in quotes. Because JP-EN Video game translators are their own little sub-group.
>>747705101No, I know, there really isn't a problem. I just hate official localizations with their gayass dubtitles about as much as these people hate AI, and didn't expect my shitpost to be so popular.(The real replies should be something like "yeah, I'd even take Google translate over 8-4 or Treehouse" or stuff like that, but the retards on here always let me down)
>>747705539Also post the source text.
>>747705502Nah, I'll just wait to play it when I become fluent in Japanese 20 years from now.
>>747703921If not having an AI translation was so motivating for translators, why didn’t they translate it in the decades prior?
>>747705571>Google translate over 8-4 or TreehouseFalse dichotomy. Competent translators exist. We shouldn't use (the EN side of) 8-4 or Treehouse as a baseline.
>>7477056296 months. You could play the game in 6 months if you're willing to have a dictionary on hand.
>>747705571>The real replies should be something like "yeah, I'd even take Google translate over 8-4 or Treehouse"maybe if you are a brown thirdworlderanyone with a brain would recognize the correct option is neither, because both are dogshit
>>747701618Any good mtl AI you guys recommend?GPT is ass
>>747705352 this so much better cause it's coming from humans. it flows so naturally. Naturally flowing dialogue is more important than translation. Like... I can't stand literal translation cause they talk so unnaturally. Did I mention natural dialogue? If the dialogue is unnatural and literal I'm literally gonna shit my pants. No one wants translation, please make natural dialogue
>>747705074>YOU NEED TO DO PRIVATE BETAS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWow, skitzo much.
>>747705596Dragon Fang Z
The two main things I know about Sakura Wars are it is owned by Sega and the endless mummification porn all requested by the same mother fucker back in the 00s.
>>747705730none, all of these apes saying MTL are good are either just pretending or deeply neurodivergent
most """"""AI"""""""""s are doing even more heavy localization than your average N2 trannylatorjust learn japanese and shut the fuck up
>>747705730If you mean to hook into your games or something I'd ask in the VN general.As far as for translation projects they all seem to cost money
>>747705074>"fan" translation>people who worked on it weren't "fans" at all and didn't even bother playing the gameEvery time.
weebs will literally do anything but learn jappos
These games are bad. I just like this image.
>>747703861Nah, AI captures the soul just fine.
>>747705716yeah, it will take you literally six months to get through this one game cause japanese is a terrible and stupidly difficult language lmao
>Buy Sakura Wars Bluray (SD on bluray)>Looks like 360 webrip or some shitDid they lose the masters or something? I can usually stand SD on bluray but this was a peg or two below that standard. Just blurry and pixelation everywhere. Got me disinterested in finishing it at that time.
>>747706216that's just how translators are, no matter how they go about achieving the translationthe slop Xenosaga translation has multiple game breaking bugs because it was 'tested' by starting the game and getting to the first instance of combat
>>747702350No it's literally worse than nothing
>>747706263>ジャップオス>Japanese man Internet slang, Derogatory差別
>>747704169Because nobody cares about Langrisser. I'd rather divert my efforts to something pristine like princess sacrifice.
>>747706418Look on IA. Someone posted all of the animated content subbed.
>>747701618Do eops can't read broken when in english? ain't no fucking way
>>747705716No you couldn't kek
Yeah, hey, you know that old video game that looked cool and they never brought it over? Just learn an entire new language to play it! Jeez plebs
>>747705352You just can't beat that authentic "human" dialogue.
Anyone who consumes anime on weekly basis should be able to grasp some of the common exchanges. It's more concerning when they can't fucking do it. I know since I have a friend who consoom EN sub and still don't know Japanese
Of all the 'A.I." detractors I swear jap learners are the most screechy of them all. It must sting to illicit that kind of response
EOPs are subhuman.And AI-jeet EOPs are even worse. What else is there to say?
>>747706735Anime doesn't teach you shit. The subs deviate from the literal meaning too much for it to teach you more than a few adjectives and some interjections.
>>747706798Use better subs. JP subs
>>747706370>Nah, AI captures the soul just fineit doesn't, any personality is removed from the characters
>>747706798If you consume something constantly and only know shits like "kawaii" or "konoyarou", yeah, you just have an awful learning module.
>>747706857They're not widely available and they also don't teach you the language.>>747706953You're not actually consuming the Japanese portion. You're only reading the English part.
>>747705716Could I?
>>747702265Amazing.
>>747706931And what personality is missing here exactly
>>747706995It's JP dub, and therefore you are consuming Japanese portion, anon. What? Are you a dekinai who only consume EN dub?
>>747702439It's a series of visual novels, the gameplay is reading text.
>>747707040compare, she doesn't come across feminine at all
>>747706857Should I use japanese + english subs at first or jump straight to JP only? Having both subs is kinda cheating but taking a day to watch an episode of a children's anime show because you have to look up every word is painful.
>>747707065You're tuning out the Japanese to read the English, which naturally presents the information in reverse order. There's a reason most people don't know Japanese.
>>747707080The issue with english is that it removes a lot of nuances from the original language. Like, how do you translate "watakushi" into anything other than "I/me"?
>>747707112You'll need some way to reference the English. The official subs will be very different though, so not the greatest help when learning.
>>747707080Okay thats actually fair but im not a writer so idk how you would even convey all that stuff in english to begin with lolI feel like stuff like watakushi and wa is just always gonna be lost in translation no matter what
>>747703921this has always been trannylator cope they threaten everyone with so that they don't get completely replaced by MTLs.
>>747707143Anon, you are reading with your eyes while your ears are listening. Don't tell me you can't do both at the same time
>>747707150Probably would've helped if they used more words. The japanese has a bit too much there for 7 English words to get all of it.
>>747704316>have to wait until 3 is translated to tell the (other) french offuggggh
>>747707150You transfer that aspect into some other part of her speech or leave it implied. The subject is grammatically necessary in English, so we don't have the leniency to have a million pronouns like Japanese.
>>747707212If the subtitles were 1-to-1 accurate, then you may have a point, but they aren't.
>>747704316When I played ST4 on PC it was standalone. It is not DLC but shorter than previous.
>>747707273Stop getting tranny-subs or woke-subs then
>>747707298I think they're called horriblesubs because they're crunchyroll rips.
>>747707298They're all tranny subs. I've yet to see one subtitle track that keeps the English and Japanese the same. Everyone takes liberties.
>>747707080>Of course, little old me could do that alone,fixed it for ya
Why do transgender people hate AI so much?
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>>747706687what AI is being used here and in your other images? it seems pretty good
>>747706931The people who read machine translations don't care about personality, they make it up in ther headcanon.
>>747707482This tweet always feels like its trying to justify inaccurate translations.
>>747707460I don't know, why do you?
>>747707561maybe you can read it that way but the context behind it is just that a common trannylator defense is to bring up legitimate japanese subtleties or vague hard to translate lines when the discussion is about blatant rewriting or insertion of random nonsense with no basis in the text.
>>747707352That で十分 is probably "more than enough" or something. It's about quantity. It's not could. It's more cocky. And why does "あの程度の事故でしたら" just "that". It doesn't have to be curt, you can use more words which gives you more flexibility for expressing the character's personality.
>>747707556Gemini 3
there's nothing wrong with having natural sounding dialogue but if by doing so the meaning of the original text is altered I sorta feel that's just missing the point
>>747701618many such cases
>>747707654>That で十分 is probably "more than enough" or something.Literally, it's "(it's) enough for me by myself," which is another way of saying, "I could handle (something like that) all on my own." No need to nitpick.
>>747706931>Of course. Do you think I need a white man for this mission? End the patriarchy!Here's the correct translation
>>747707784It's 一人で so it's not "for". >I could handle (something like that) all on my ownThat's not the point. The previous line is あの程度の事故. She's downplaying the difficulty. Which matters because that's how the personality comes through. She way to approaching getting the message across is also important, not just the message, because there's nuance there. If you just truncate it, of course personality gets lost.
>>747708007I phrased the first part wrong, It's not "for me" it's "for" the 事故.
>>747701618Why haven't you learned it?
>>747706461Nah
>>747708096Unfortunately, it's not possible to learn Japanese.
>>747708007>It's 一人で so it's not "for". The 一人で part is "by myself," the "for" is grammatically necessary in English to relate 十分でした back to the subject.>That's not the point. The previous line is あの程度の事故. She's downplaying the difficulty. That is exactly the point. She's saying she can handle "an incident of that degree," by herself, so therefore she can handle "that kind of thing" by herself.
>>747701618That's just another MTL translation shitjob>yeah but AI was specified It's been the case since deep tl, still has the same energy as your usual slop
>>747707516So you can't explain it and needed the AI to do it for you.
>>747703221nah you don't need the latest fancy model. you just give feed a glossary, terminology, entire script (chronologically) and ask it to do a word by word breakdown before the translation. people are retarded or ADHD and NEED to translate everything at once so we get these endless sloppa.I'd say give it a few months until people start re-releasing TLs with the AI properly whipped and delicitized.
>>747703221I'm still sore about picrel. Absolute worst translation in recent memory and it's only just now getting an official fix
>>747701618Good enough for me. I want a basic understanding of what's going on and what characters are saying.It's just a video game, the writing is bad anyway.
>>747708689Worst translation that got public backlash in recent memory. Anything Final Fantasy 14 or square related or the Metaphor hack job. There are other translations just as bad that go under the radar.
>>747708096Was the AI prompting to make them speak like cavemen? Why is every line truncated? Text space limitation? If it's that bad there's no point in translating to begin. You might as well just release a plot summary you read on the second monitor.
>>747708962sloplators are but troonslators by another name, they don't care about the quality of the result but about being the one to have their name on the release
>>747707183That's the point you can't 1:1 translate it, you have to influct snooty nuances to her lines to reflect her personality, which is something MTL 100% can't do.
>>747709754The AI translation is not 1-1. If it was more 1-1 that would actually be an improvement. It's too short. It's like someone repeating something someone else said but they only vaguely remember the original statement.
Hey remember back in the day when people got mad about MTL or subpar translations because it lower the chance something would ever get translated?Why is everyone a fucking retard who demands only garbage and slop now?
