I’m trying to get into Fire Emblem for the new game. Should I start with the snes, gba, or newer ones?
Start with Fire Emblem Engage because its the best one by a country mile
>>747734641First start with Military Madness on Turbografx
>>747734641Emulate engage or mystery of the emblem or thracia. If you enjoy any of those play the gba, gamecube, & the 3DS games. Engage is probably the only modern game I can say you can start with and then go backwards and still have fun with the older games but if you play the 3ds games or 3 houses first you probably wont be able to tolerate the older games
>>747734641There's a few eras that offer good entry points. GBA gives you a very basic trilogy that are easy to emulate on basically anything, don't have any controversial mechanics and are decent length games. They're a good starting point, though whether you want to play 6 or 7 (a prequel to 6) will be up to you.I love the SNES era, but I feel they're best played later on when you're more aware of how the series plays. 3 is a decent remake of 1 (with some missing content) but has a whole sequel story you can do. 4 and 5 are the Jugdral duology and imo, are unique enough to be played later.9 and 10 are the GC/Wii duology. 9 is a decent starting place, though modern FE fans find it a bit boring, while 10 is controversial (love it, or hate it). I think this is a good entry point because you won't be spoiled by playing faster, more customizable 3D entries in the series first. Part 1
>>7477354033DS era was designed as an entry point, and imo does an okay job at that - very easy to pick up and learn, plus Awakening does a lot to introduce older FE characters through fanservice. However, they lean very much on what's known as "Gaiden" style mechanics (based on FE2 on Famicom) where you have access to grinding on a world map. This fundamentally changed's FE's focus from surviving with your units across a linear set of chapters, into a game where you're investing a lot of grinding into your units. Birthright, Awakening and Echoes are all like this (basically a Gaiden revival era), while Conquest plays more like older FE in its design (kind of like a successor to 5, 6/7 and 9) and was better regarded.For Switch, 3H and Engage are polar opposites. 3H is a weird persona-like designed for fujoshi's who loved romancing characters in Awakening. It's got a metric shitton of micromanagement - but if you like Persona I guess it's up your alley.Engage operates more like a sequel to the 3DS games (Awakening, Fates). Personally I really liked it, but unlike >>747734747, it leans a LOT of heavy fanservice (not the sexy kind, IE - memberberry moments with the rings containing souls of prior FE characters)I almost skipped the regular DS games, Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem. I think they're a good starting point as well actually. Shadow Dragon is legitimately good, though I'd recommend one of the content patches for it imo. New Mystery is the second storyline from 3 but expanded into a full game, but it introduces a lot of fanfictiony things and the Avatar system that Awakenimg expands (though 7 did have a very limited Avatar character)In the end, I'd say 6/7, 9, 11 or any 3DS game is a good entry point. Only go for 3H if you're a fujo, and imo Engage is best played after you know more about the series.Part 2
>>747735403Interesting
>>747735403>>747735639Last thing OP, I recommend for whatever era you start - avoid savescumming (save states) or using rewind (unless it's in an entry that gives you rewind as an actual mechanic).FE is a series that's designed to punish you for playing badly, which is why it has perma death and give syou replacement units. When you can just undo any bad decisions you make, it kind of invalidates the point and you'll be wondering - "why am I being given all these new, mediocre units?" Well it's because they're designed as replacements for characters that die.Try to do maps in one sitting, reset if you fuck up royally, or just use whatever in-game mid-chaptwr save system is available. I'm just saying don't save-scum every decision you make.
>>747736343Good to know thanks
>>747734641Start with anything that's before Awakening
>>747738783Why
>>747734641Just play FE7, it has a nice tutorial and is the most vanilla FE experience you can have
>>747738805Elitism. Nothing wrong with Awakening as an entry-point, as that was it was designed for. Only thing you should know about pre-Awakening vs post-Awakening is that it introduced the multiverse aspect to FE that wasn't there before.Guaranteed he's going to complain about the Gaiden-style gameplay, Avatar romancing, or reclassing. As long as you know those are mechanics that aren't in every entry, you'll be fine with Awakening
FE7 gba
>>747738912>>747739062If he does start with FE7, he should use a save-file that comes with hardmode unlocked. The tutorial in Lyn's story is the most condescending thing in the world, and could turn people off imo.
>>747734641she looks like she has to eat all the eggs
>>747734641>FE7most beginner friendly game with a built-in extended tutorial, the west's first fire emblem release>FE8 also beginner friendly, pretty easy and simple mechanics with nothing extra, opporunities for grinding if you suck at SRPGs>FE9easy game, has a direct sequel>FE13first FE game that garnered wide popularity, has a casual mode with no permadeath if you're intimidatedNo, none of the switch games are good for people getting into fire emblem. 3H barely plays like a fire emblem game and engage's story is so cringe it might actually permanently turn you off from the series.
its incredible people still recommend fe7 for its tutorial as if people have never played a fucking strategy game before in 2026 or awakening, one of the most dogshit games in the entire franchise.OP just emulate fates, the conquest route in fates is the best game in the series and doesnt patronize you like a retarded child
Start with the one with concepts that appeal to you
>>747734747>>747734960>engageepic troll XD !!!>>747739836>conquesttranny game that will turn anyone away from the franchise with how cringe it is
>>747739971>Offers nothing of value in his postNaruhodo. I agree both are shit starting points though
>>747739295It's still unironcially harder than sacred stones on hard. Literally wtf did IS mean with SS?
>>747740429I'm just specifically talking about how in Lyn normal, you're forced to make certain actions like promoting Wallace, or putting units in specific spots.
>>747740625Yeah I remember but if your new new it's not that bad as a starting point
>>747734641I recommend Fire Emblem for GBA for classic FE, or Awakening for newer FE. If you are open minded to older, clunkier games you could try Fire Emblem Mystery of the Emblem for SNES/SFC, it has a remake of Fire Emblem 1 and a sequel campaign too, and it's directed by the guy who is credited with creating Fire Emblem. The other SNES FE games directed by him are really good games too, but they're different, and may not appeal to you, but they're worth trying. Not as a first FE game though.
>>747734641>I’m trying to get into Fire Emblem for the new game. Should I start with the snes, gba, or newer ones?You should start with not starting at all, and moving onto something else. These games are laughably bad.
>>747741237Post favorite tactics games please
>>747741237I wouldn't say they're bad but the RNG is really a dealbreaker for me. Something like Langrisser 2 is more in my wheelhouse.
>>747741237What a little prissy bitch. Tell us of these superior tactics games! It's always fucking Langrisser, or some Tactics Ogre clone. FE does a lot right compared to other SRPGs.>>747742336I'm hoping you're a different poster since you don't seem retarded like that other guy.
>>747742636Tactics Ogre is an actually shit tactics game if you play it vanilla.
>>747734641FE7:Blazing Sword on GBA or as people know it in the West Fire Emblem.The GBA titles had a standard that eventually became the standard that later FEs eventually used.
>>747742715Wait why is it shit?>>747742636Langrisser is based tho
>>747742715One Vision is fun though.
>>747742845Langrisser is imdeed based, but to pretend it's on some elevated higher tier than FE other than simple taste preferences is what I'm mocking. The person I'm referring to in my initial post is just another tribalistic retard whose angry at FE lol
>>747743038Ah. I would actually recommend Langrisser to noobies though, it is not a terribly difficult series (Outside of the 4th one)
>>747742845>Wait why is it shit?This is my experience with the PSP version so I don't know if the PS1 version is any better but:>If you're one level below someone in vanilla you deal barely any damage to them.>The stat and exp scaling is insanely busted to the point it takes dozens of hours just to level up some new class you found so you can actually use it in a story fight.>Shoved in crafting system that is probably the worst thing I have seen in a video game. You have a chance of failing the crafting for no discernable reason and it will waste hours of your time and a bunch of your money, encouraging save scumming.>Some classes are complete dogshit compared to others, ninja is so good it's broken and beast master/tamer, whatever it's called, is useless outside of recruiting monsters
Start with Awakening on Lunatic+. Sink or swim
>>747744039Lunatic+ is just reset and check boss simulator
>>747739608>reccs easy gameswat are you, a woman?
Why are people so against Awakening as a starter game?
>>747734641it doesn't matter what game you start with but these games are intended to be iron manned. Ironmanning means to keep playing even if your unit dies. These games are designed with this in mind and create ebb and flow of tension and rewards for sticking through it.
>>747734641Andaron Saga!
>>747745298Maybe if you suck
>>747747125Oldfags trying to gatekeep
>Saddam: “Wait, you're Lady Lyndis?”>Lyn: “That's correct.”>Saddam: “So you own a castle?”>Lyn: “It's complicated.”>Saddam: “I've owned palaces. I can give you some pointers.”>Lyn: “I don't think I want them.”>Guy: “For once, listen to her.”
>>747750186get a new joke
>>747747125Because its fucking dogshit and you havent played it in the past 5 years. If you did, you would never recommend it
>>747750186Kek
>>747750823I played it first the first time since it came out recently on Lunatic and it went from one of my bottom 5 games to my top 5. What now larper
>>747734641Start with Three Houses since the next FE is part of that world Edelgard did nothing wrong
>>747750971Prove it.
>>747751119Prove...what
>recommend game>not commercially available
>>747751442you know how to type 'fire emblem gba rom' into google dont you?
>>747751210Post your save file.
>>747747125Awakening sucks
just play what ever looks coolest to you everyone has a different opinion on what makes a good fe game
Lissa
>>747747125It blows and gives newcomers the impression that the series blows.
>>747752046Mist
>>747734641Start with FE7 GBA or Path of Radiance imo
>>747752173>Path of Radiancegreat way to turn someone off of fe for ever
>>747749502>oldfagsmore like there used to be a fanbase of the oldgames that is completely gone now and the people left saying Awakening is shit tell the tale of monkeys climbing a ladder
Start with Radiant Dawn or Thracia 776 and then play Berwick Saga
>>747752215Because of the slow animations I guess? Yeah I do wish it were faster
Engage was literally designed to be an entry point.
>>747751719Best I can do for the moment.
Just play the best game and you can basically ignore the rest, if anything just looking up the wiki pages for them
>>747752606AAIIIEEEE WHY ARE YOU PLAYING THE GAME INSTEAD OF JUGGERNAUTING? THAT'S NOT ALLOWED!
>>747752606Good enough for me. I've been thinking about replaying Awakening recently as well to see how I feel about it. I haven't played it since 2013 or so.
>>747752561pretty much all games are outside rd and thracia
Which FE game discourages turtling?
>>747752776awakening and binding blade
>>747752776Andaron Saga
>>747752751Don't forget Conquest and Revelation
>>747734641Just start with the new one it looks to be pretty different from everything else in the series. Also it comes out it in two days you won't be able to beat anything else in time.
>>747752776engage
>>747752776Maps with turn limits that aren't defend mapsSide objectives that make you hurry up such as bandits going towards a villageThere's no point in saying a specific game discourages turtling because if you don't have a reason to move quickly taking on enemy groups one at a time with your army huddled up as a giant death ball is the safest way to play.
>>747752751No. The developers themselves specifically said they hoped Engage would attract new players and make them want to try past titles.
>>747747125Awakening should be played as a starter game because if you play anything else you immediately will like Awakening a lot less.
>>747752776engage since chain attacks are a thing and reinforcements up the ass
>>747753073Past, commercially unavailable, titles
>>747753073its a product they want people to buy everygame thats a nothing burger statement
>>747734641>>747734747>>747739004>>747739836>>747749502Consult the chart.
>>747734641Any porn hacks of fe?
>>747753247Haven't seen your diarrhea image in a while
...where is the fortune's weave thread, bros...?
>>747753298There are some horrendous edgelord hacks like Gheb Emblem or Duo Geno Escapo, but I recommend interacting with them only through the old let's play in /v/ archives. Around half of SRPG Studio games, which are off-brand FE, are NTR porn, so you can look there.
>>747753580All the hype is gone
would mods ban me for advertising if I linked the vod of the FW twitch stream?
>>747753990Nah
the only one thats really worth playing is Awakening for the 3ds(its also the only one ive played)
>>747753580The game was so fucking trash that people starting discussing other stuff
>>747753247>three houses in high tier
>>747753693>are NTR porn
>>747753247I'm playing Fire Emblem GBA for the first time, it's all right I guess, what's so bad about it?
>>747754919This guy has been spamming his shit chart for years and trying to make any sense of it is a fool's errand.
>>747734747Fucking based and red and blue hair pilled. T. Only played shadow dragon and engage
>>747754919>Some blame it for being the first translated FE game to be contrarian old-school gamers, >Some blame it on the fanbase having weird gameplay opinions early on due to being overall easy (Ests above Jagens and all that).>Some are salty about the game being easy and too reliant on drowning you with enemy mooks, with just some end-game bosses being threatening.>Some are butthurt about the change in the fanbase mindset from liking babying growth units to liking LTC'ing with Jagens and are blaming the GBA games on that.>Some are butthurt about Lyn being everywhere>Some are nitpicking the story to death.>Some are butthurt FE6 fans who want to claim their game is the better oneNot every reason is good
damn fortune's weave interest dried right up
>>747756516everyone moved to /feg/
>>747756516the usual suspects literally all just remigrated back to /vg/i dont understand it either
>>747756516You probably didn't catch the stream, but that shit was fucking dreadful.
>>747756516Like others have said they're in /feg/ but there are also people who left because spoilers are being posted, I know I did. /v/ will cope about nobody caring about this game, contrary to common sense, until reality hits them like a semi truck tomorrow morning. Reviews are coming in.
>>747753298Azure Orphanage was surprisingly good.
holy shit did that stream completely kill the hype? the game comes out in two days and this thread is moving at a snails pace
>>747734641the GBA games are the only ones worth playing
>747756914>no you dont understand people arent making threads or talking about it because uhhhhh they care so MUCH
>>747734641The GBA games are the best ones to start with.
>>747752215That's why you recommend to play it on an emulator with speed up then. The speed issue hasn't been a problem for forever unless you are a retarded faggot that doesn't know how to emulate.
>/feg/gots are hereIt's over
>>747757051I've posted that image once, check the filename. Like I said, you can refuse not to see the impending tornado rapidly barreling in your direction, but it will make no difference.
>>747756604>>747756616that's a fucking lie because nobody posts there anymore.
>>747757115why not just play a better game at that point?
>>747757345
>>747753247Anyone that holds Sacred Stones to such a high standard is a faggot. Not a terrible game, but people that jerk it off are usually some of the cheesingest fags in existence.
>>747757460Sacred Stones is probably better than your favorite game.
>>747757460It's always for some asinine reason like branching promotions being conceptually cool despite them being horribly balanced.
FE needs more cowgirls
>>747757941get back in the ranch >>747739881
>>747757853i just think its fun I also like that its short
>>747734641DON'T PLAY ENGAGE WHATEVER YOU DO IT'S HORRIBLE DOGSHIT
>>747758220Worst mistake of my life!
Ive played Shadow Dragon, Awakening and a bit of the gba one. Im itching for FE bit FW and all the Persona-like shit is off putting. What should I play?
Let's see if archiveschizo shows up for this one.
>>747756919Isn't that ntr?
>>747756516Like my cum in the bathroom floor....
>>747758520Damn son buy a mop
>preordered physical from Nintendo
>>747750278Get a place where you can take a load off buddy, relax!
>>747758520i cum directly on the carpet
Sign it
>>747758876I don't have anything to apologize to Engage for. I've been right on everything I said about that game.
>>747750278where's the jokeit's just someone with severe autism ritual posting with nonsense
>>747757941
>>747758876
https://youtu.be/IYFKWjgTkwk?si=tsvZ74LxA5RYsZ_8&t=5920Why the fuck does child leda sound like this?
>>747759209Because it's an English dub
>fire emblem
>>747759404
>>747759290That's a FW character.
>>747758876I never joined the anti-Engage bandwagon, so I'm good.
>>747756624Like the game or the streamer?
>FEshmel can grow a cock if she needs to reproduceGOTY
>>747752776kneel to your echoesgods peasant
>>747758475He already did
>another tuber is streaming fortunes weave right now
>>747759926Where?
>>747760017Omegaemerson>fortunes are weaving
>>747759680The game, but the SEAmonkey streaming it wasn't helping either
>there's an arachnaphobia modeDEI consultant slop game confirmed.
>>747734641Release order. Every time.
>>747747125Because the central pair up gimmick is never revisited in quite the same way again.
>>747760151We already knew this, but you are still correct in your assessment.
>the darkest dark gets exposed at the start of the fucking game
the larpest larp
>>747760000
You can play seisen no keifu then just stop because you've already finished the peak of the series. All the 3DS games are liked by tranny shipfags and aren't good
>cai headbutts a guy in a steel helmet >he's fine
>>747761349I haven't seen someone call FE4 that since the GameFAQs days.
Did you know? Gamefreak was contracted to work on Cai's route!
>>747761435kid alm punches an armored knight off his horse in the prologue of sov. gaidenbros eating good
CAN I GET A LINK
>>747761575 And get banned by jannies for advertising?Stop being a fucking faggot and eat your spoonfeeding>>747760075Youtube has a specific filter just for livestreams
>>747761435He's a literal dragon boy
>>747757345based, fuck echoes
i just brought the special edition I dont even have a switch 2
>>747753693no one wants a reheated fire emblem
>>747761494Wait, hol up.Is this the new FE? I didn't know it would be KANGS EDITION!
>mediators can reproduce in a variety of ways>when dadao finally manages to get into anatolia's bed, she will tell him to bend over
>>747759209because american VAs have no range whatsoever
>>7477614943h also looked like that, they dont need gamefreaks help for that
>>747758402THE CUTEST FIRE EMBLEM
>>747758876SIGNED IT. even though i dont need to
>sick dadcai is literally roy
>all this cut to blackholy shit where did the animation budget go
>>747761494lol
>>747762551we do this every game
>>747752215>great way to turn someone off of fe for ever... even though it was the last Fire Emblem game to have any dignity.
>>747762648dignity
>>747752215>great way to turn someone off of fe forevernah that's engage
>>747762842We all would teebeeh
>>747762968>>747762648reddit is 3 doors down
For serious tho, was toothpaste emblem good? Wasn't Anna censored?
>>747763283yes
>>747763283>was toothpaste emblem goodyes. always was.
Soren would unironically pair better with Skrimir than Ike.
>>747763283>good gameplay (maybe even great, among the top for FE)>bad writing, characters, story, zero worldbuilding, nonsensical lore, DUDE REMEMBER MARTH
>>747734641we will be playing trails slop instead
>>747753083>Awakening should be played as a starter game because otherwise you'll develop the objectively correct opinion of itIntriguing proposition.
>>747763850This arc sucked and legitimately has the MCs investigate people just for being white.
>>747743220Yeah, Langrisser is way easier than FE.
>>747763824>, characters,nah the characters are fun > DUDE REMEMBER MARTHthis is only a negative when you hate fire emblem
peg knight is female only.
>>747763926true but sky 2 is kino
>>747763283the redpilled answer is that engage did everything better than 3H did EXCEPT for its writing and world building, which were abysmal.>better gameplay>better maps>better pacing>much more replayable>better visuals>better animation>less busyworkit nails all the meat and potatoes of FE. BUT, you're talking about nu-FE fans who don't give a shit about anything other than playing matchmaker and watching their poorly written soap operas, and in their eyes engage might as well be the spawn of satan itself.
>>747763850Is that the game where they start complaining about problematic locals and the plight of poor immigrants? Glad my last game was Coldsteel 4 so I ended on ReanKINO and flirting with Musse.
a thought just occured to me. Fortune's Weave has a lot of italian motifs. What if everyone is actually a dark skinned italian and not actually black/brown
>>747764367theres literally characters with black hair styles some are intended to be black its alright
>>747764305Engage felt like a Saturday morning cartoon esque anime to me. Also it seemed to succeed the Fates styled games.
>>747764367Then we replace nigger racism with olive racism.
>>747734747This.
cuck perch bros, how are we doing today?
>>747739608I just got through Path of Radiance, what;s an actually difficult Fire Emblem?
>>747764367Fortune's Weave is a big mishmash of Mediterranean, African, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Roman themes and more.
>>747764874FE12 on Lunatic Reverse, FE14 CQ Lunatic, FE9 Maniac are the hardest games.
>>747764874mangs dropped vestaria saga so you could try that
>>747734641
>>747765003he wanted a difficult to play fire emblem not a difficult to sit through fire emblem
>>747765024sorry to be the barer of bad news but fe was always on the right
>>747765130>filtered
>>747764305That's why I'm cautiously optimistic for FW, IS (pronounced "is") is pretty good at making good FE gameplay.
>>747764963>FE9 Maniaclolno
>>747765534>fi*crashes*
>>747764874>actually fucking CBT tierFE12 H3/4, Awakening Lunatic(+)>very hard especially first timeThracia, Conquest/Engage Lunatic>fairly hard, kinda meme-yFE11 H5, FE9 Maniac, FE6 HM
>>747734641It’s crazy how I read through this while thread and got no definitive answers. Must be a great series then!
>>747745298Lunatic+ is more fun(and interesting) if you play it without resetting for skills, which is not mandatory(contrary to what many say)
>>747764305I avoided Engage because of the godawful vtuber character artist style. the gacha & vtuber cultural poison must die. i am a true supporter of perversion but it's amazing that they found a way to sand off edges of anime style i didnt even know existed and make these awful porcelain accessorised gaudy designs that look so soulless i cant even find them attractive at all.
>>747765976thats vestaria saga 2 I still didn't finish it because of the glitch rip
>>747765003>>747765130>>747765534Vestaria Saga is an interested game in terms of difficulty. You really need to plan before the map even starts. Take the pic of Ch. 5 there. How do you think you can get to the objective? What assumptions are you making? Do you have a back-up plan if things go wrong. Do you know which characters you need to kill the boss, and which ones can be diverted to deal with events that pop up after the map starts? You have to think ahead a lot more than other FE games. Personally, I think Kaga's style is much better.
>>747766153le dignité...
>>747766153On the off chance you're serious...I started with 3H, it's quite interesting the first time you play it. Gripping, even. However, it is not indicative of the series as a whole, quite a departure. I don't even particularly like it (I am a gameplayfag as I quickly found out) nowadays, though I still sometimes yearn for the character and world of it. The next entry after, Engage, is my most replayed FE.Who knows what type of person you will be? The gameplayfag (Engage, Conquest, New Mystery), the storyfag (FE4/5, 3H) or something in between (Fortune's Weave, Path of Radiance)
>>747766153You're telling me anonymous users aren't a hivemind?
>>747766357yeah it's horribly ugly autistic shit for man children
>>747766410kaga definitely has a lot of forward-thinking ideas I like though he does need to tone down a few things. I remember doing this map and the objective changed constantly. First it was trying to rescue some units before they get to the middle castle. Then a turn later, the lower right village needs to be saved. Then after a few turns a squad spawns in the middle of the map where you have to retrieve a chest in the top and need to come back to the castle. Then you have to fight the boss near the castle. THEN you need to head to an exit point at the top right as dragon reinforcements appears at the top left of the screen. The objective changing one or two times is fine as you progress through the map but GEEZ.I tried vestaria saga 2 and its more streamlined and less exhausting, but honestly I liked the jank of 1 better. Kaga should be more confident in his ideas but make it more focused.
>aswan is nyna and gilchris is hardinRETVRNTOFORM
>>747766357people would say the exact same shit about all the anime you love
>>747766357vtuber le bad... but brown is le good.
>>747766357it's funny, I had the exact same reaction but to tellius and archanea remakes instead. Those games were just so fucking ugly that it was painful to even sit and play through them.
>>747760151LOL REALLY?
Bertrand is Iliana's used goods
>>747767735that anon, yeah same. i tried playing shadow dragon ds and everything about the presentation is horrible. the visuals and music evoke the same hopeless grinding malaise in me as the Joker soundtrack, more effectively even>>747767718i dont care about the characters' skin colour one way or the other, vtuber designs just look so fucking bland and none of their busy trinkets can mask it.
>>747767964>generic black people good>generic anime people bad
>>747767964>and musicholy shit taste
>>747767964>so fucking blandfe has always looked bland
>>747768120the title screen music is good, the rest is just droning muffled dogshit
>>747767938>raped by aswan and illianaberty had a hard life...
>>747766809The thing is though, most of those are just side objectives. I think Kaga doesn't like having people reset for 100%, so he puts in these obstacles to make it obnoxious. And you can afford to lose units in Vestaria Saga, you just miss out on some cool scenes. But that just makes your campaign tailored to you, you know?But also, the demon ambush spawn on this map was BULLSHIT.
>>747734641just choose the one you think looks coolest, the mechanics are easy to grasp and none of the games are particularly hard outside of the highest difficulties.If you play FE7 do not play Lyn mode, it treats you like a literal retard, download a save with Eliwood and Hector mode unlocked and start with one of them instead
>>7477346413DS for accessibility, GBA for kindov a nice blend of new and old, SNES to see what all the newer games stole from.
>>747764963I have heard FE9 maniac is garbage and not difficult in the slightest, just long. You'll have a little less experience in the end, but it's mostly just fighting 1.3x the amount of paladins, generals, and dragons as on Hard.
I've played a bit of Shadow Dragon as my first FE game, but do mechanics like reclassing remain this unintuitive in later games? I feel like it'd require multiple playthroughs of trial and error to figure out what to do with it.From what little I've seen online, it's almost as if "as soon as you get X unit you should obviously reclass him to Knight" is common knowledge to people.
>>747768761They spam a lot more siege tomes and status staves too.
>>747747125The truth is old Fire Emblem fans hate everything and everyone, most of all newer fans. They dont understand that games should be for everyone and sweaty tactics simulators are an incredibly unfriendly way to design a game. The modern games with their plethora of difficulty accessibility features should be lauded and don't let old fans take that achievement away.
>>747768921So instead of one healer I bring two. For once Rhys might actually see use after the first ten chapters.
>>747769205>everyone and sweaty tactics simulators are an incredibly unfriendly way to design a game.and thats perfectly fine, not everything needs to appeal to the lowest common denominator
What are the chances Bertrand is an innocent dindu?
>>747769205you are so right>*reloads save state*you are so valid>*reloads save state*fuck you>*reloads save state*making choices without lasting consequences is good
>>747769205old Fire Emblem fans overwhelmingly prefer the most braindead games in the series though
>>747769265based. when something is 'for everyone' in the modern sense, it's really for no one.
>>747769223Or use Pure Water.
>>747769205>They dont understand that games should be for everyoneI don't think you could possibly defend this position to any good effect
>>747768785Reclassing is more limited in the later games since it costs resources instead of being free, and characters usually perform well in their default classin Awakening/Fates, characters only have two or three alternate classes to choose from that (usually) fit their intended roleIn Three Houses and Engage anyone can become any class like Shadow Dragon, but you have to train them in different weapon skills to unlock different classes
>>747769223I always replace him with Mist, too. She offers a much better payoff and I just like her a lot more as well. Usually when I need another staff user the mage I'm using is ready to promote as well.
>>747769558I imagine my turns will be so full of murdering goddamned paladins and generals that pure water on all in-range frontline will cause more trouble than restoring or healing one or two dudes a turn.
play this latest one so you can watch the cute anime girls' pussies leak and gush when they behold Bertrand's BLACK DICK
>>747769763
>bertrand immediately jobs to another le mysterious fighter in the first cutscene he's introducedISIS can't fucking write for shit
>>747770061more like they for some reason don't want to hire competent writers
>>747770061I was gonna make a shitty weapon triangle joke but then I remembered oh yeah, FW doesn't have a weapon triangle because it's not a good FE game
I love Mist.
>>747770061what about that is bad writting? why cant you guys admit you dont actually want good writting and just want a bunch of marry sues
>writting>marryveyle.tiff
>>747769975A trans man tweeted this
veyle sex
>>747770675>all the trailers and promo materials hype Bertrand up to be a fierce fighter that makes all the other lords struggle>the game even shows that he has a reputation in the arena>turns out he loses in the very first fight he's in to another le mysterious fighter there is no build up. Nothing to make the loss impactful. One moment we're introduced to Bertrand, and the next he's kneeling to some random fag. It's a blatant bait and switch by marketing.
>>747770880marketing isnt writing you retard
>>747770910>d-doesn't count!!!sure thing nigger
>>747770995correct retard, learn to use your brain
>>747766191There is literally mathematically impossible fights early on no matter what you may cope and how many times we have this conversation.
>>747734641if you like the medieval persona character stuff just play awakening. It does it better than the other modern games by farif you like the tactics stuff way more play echoes or the gba game of your choiceradiance/radiant dawn are a bitch to emu but if you have the means go for it they're good too
>>747771620>if you like the tactics stuff way more play echoesBro are you literally insane
>>747771620>if you like the tactics stuff way more play echoes
>>747771620>if you like the tactics stuff way more play echoesHAAH WAAW
>there was a literal cutscene where Mu comes out as FtM trans to "his" mom and she responds by calling her identity hecking valid and supporting herNot only blacked cuck shit but tranny shit omfggggggg this 'tanic is the gift that keeps on giving!
>>747773403that's my favorite game
>>747771620>radiance/radiant dawn are a bitch to emudolphin is literally one of the most stable emulators you can find
>>747771620I got a JPN version of Path of Radiance going with english patch over the course of a couple hours, completely blind into Dolphin as an emulator. I'm even going to hex edit the savefile to play Radiant Dawn. it's all pretty trivial.
>twitch stream vod got taken down
>>747768761I would honestly say that FE9 maniac is harder overall than FE11 H5, which I recently played, because the latter lacks real bite for most of the game compared to FE9 with its aforementioned status staves and siege tomes. FE9 maniac isn't super hard like some of the lunatic modes, but it absolutely will fuck your shit up if you're not careful.
>>747773498Fire Emblem RTS when
>>747773989I assume when people talk about FE being hard, they are talking about "If you never reload a save when someone dies or manipulate levelups"
>>747774087you might get it for the next kusakihara game because he seems to hate turn based tactics.
>>747743278SNES (and PS1) version is significantly better in those aspects, PSP absolutely fucked a lot of the stat math and introduced things like the class level system.The One Vision mod's great, at least.Reborn also changes up a whole lot again, and fixes a lot of shit like leveling and class balance.
>>747774909>The One Vision mod's great, at least.Indeed
>>747774909Reborn has its own share of problems though. Feels like Matsuno has no idea what he actually wants TO's gameplay to be.
>>747776686this never happened
>>747776686kek what a raped bitch
>>747771458To this day I have not once seen this claim backed up with specific examples
>>747776686On that day in the plains of Sacae, Batta the Beast taught Lyn what her true purpose in life was: to be a slave to bandit cock
>>747777129It was the sweltering summer of '92
>people complain about avatars>circlejerk Bertrand, a mary sue bigger than avatars that gets three times more glazing than an avatar
>>747777805>mary sueHE LITERALLY JOBS TO THE FIRST FAGGOT THAT HE FIGHTS IN HIS INTRO CUTSCENE
>>747734641Celica sexo!!!!
Echoes artstyle is the only thing saving the game from being universally agreed to be shit
OH NONONONON AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>747778950Pikazo makes stupefyingly awful slop. Not surprising it does well with the lowest common denominator.
>>747778950why did engage flopped so much if she has so many fans?
>>747778064Alm watches THIS have sex with someone else?!
>>747734641The only FE that matters are Awakening, Fates(all 3), 3H, and Engage. Anything before that does not really matter.
>>747778950>Meanwhile the games sold is the oppositeWhat went wrong?
>>747778064Literally NTR design
>>747747125Because they're mad that the game that was supposed to be this huge "we did all the gimmicks" celebration to end the series because it was basically dead caused such a gigantic fucking impact that it brought it back from the dead.
>>747778950based based based baasseedBBBBBAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD XD
>>747747125Some jealous old fags didn't like that it revived the series while theirs failed it.
>>747779521The game being a "we did all the gimmicks" celebration is precisely why the gameplay is such an unbalanced broken mess.
>>747779634>t. jav cav uncslopper
>>747779678Got any more buzzwords to throw?
>>747779634Stealing the twin system from SRW is hardly that gimmicky.
Your goddess is trying to tell you something...
>>747780094She looks like she's about pull out a Naruto jutsu
>>747780094>DOMAIN EXPANSION
>>747734641Marry Nowi
>>747747125Personally, because it's "references: the game" and it's best enjoyed when you've at least played Archanea and Jugdral as most of the plot and gameplay are a reference to those games.
>>747771620>if you like the tactics stuff way more play echoesNigga did you actually play Echoes?
>>747758876why is her right hand behind her back instead of holding up a pen or a positive pregnancy test
>>747780598it's the most tactically sound choice since it gives you two supertank daughters.
i made the mistake of recruiting ingrid in vwnow i don’t know who to saddle her with. help?
I didnt think it would be this bad.
>>747764305All true
How's the avatar customization for this anyway? can you make Eshmel look like Redman for some Unlimited Bird Works fun?
>>747781584That the art book?
>>747781497Claude
>>747753247Liking 6 but disliking 7 is pure distilled contrarianism.6 is 7 but shit.
>>747734641Celica sex.>>747782073He could have maybe made an argument for Lyn mode being a slog, but having 6 allows you to skip Lyn mode.
>>747734641BUY *CLAP* FOR *CLAP* TUNE'S *CLAP* WEAVE
>>747782156What a slut...her shoulder is exposed...
>>747782176Already did a while ago.Unfortunately I wasn't one of the lucky ones that got a copy early.
I'm replaying FE6 and I can't stand the early map theme so much I get a sense of dread every time the DAAAAA DA DA DAAAAAAAAAAA hits at the end of the song
>>747782003but what about galatea
>>747735403>>747735639I think this anon is right
>>747782419I'll take your word for it.
>>747782256I know, right?
>>747782408why do gooner faggots have to desecrate my beloved gba fe
>>747782156Sauce? Reverse search has failed me brother.
>>747782584It was just a WIP, but I saved it because it's a cropped WIP that looks like she's naked.And she should be!
>>747782375FE6 has the best soundtrack of the GBA FEs
>>747782256>>747782156>>747782526The doujin that bonus art is from is so fucking hot. Revolverwing needs to do more Celica rape and mind break hentai again, shit was masterful. The whole doujin trilogy was really.OP's porn of Celica is hot too
>>747782707True sorrow.
>>747781584Cai's 4th is JeraltDietrich's 4th is Rheatake it to the bank
>>747782747I just like Revolverwing, really.Have an Eirika.
>>747782787>4th
>>747734641What is this icon meant to convey
>>747782914this Lord is fucked up bruh
>>747779202The game sold more than how many followers she has
>>747782814He's not only the best NSFW fan artist for FE but the best artist even when compared to official ones imo. I don't play FEH and never want to, but it'd be cool if IS officially got him to do art. They've gotten JP porn artists before, so fuck it right?
>>747782737Maybe on planet retard
>>747783225I don't think that's happening, man.They've never hired non-JP artists, I don't think.
>>747734641How the fuck has no one else asked for the sauce for this being raravista? Actually fucking incredible Celica blended in that much where people assumed this was official. No way this person didn't already play some FE games at this point if he has seen a deepcut lewd like this.
>>747783289Revolverwing draws girls hot but he's too pandering to shitskinsNeeds to do more vanilla
>>747783289Yeah, you're probably right. It's fun to dream though, right? I want to believe, his art is fucking incredible enough for it that's for sure!
i WILL NEVER play ntr emblem
>>747783507Someone show me your maddening clear of thishttps://gamebanana.com/mods/600926I ragequit it at chapter 5
>>747783507FE7bros...
>>747783530i am still playing factorio and juggling that crush anon's mod...
i've always though celica was just average and not a titcow. is there an official 3 sizes?
>>747783642Nah, she is pretty average. Below even. We as gooners, just like to draw her with big tits cuz she is still a whore
YAMI WO KIRISAKUGOD SHAT'RING STAR
>>747783642Yeah, she's on the slender side of average. She does seem to get a little bit bigger when she's mind controlled though.
>>747776852I can respect the man not wanting to do a straight remake. I think Reborn turned out for the better. I know some people don't like the cards, but they're a decent way to break stalemate situations. The biggest problem with Reborn is that dodging is kinda non-functional, hit chances are simply too high for ninjas and the like to try and actually evade anything.
>>747784558Accuracy rates not mattering much is my biggest gripe with Reborn. I think it's great otherwise, the cards push and reward you for taking map control and you will generally be able to create an unstoppable juggernaut if you take it.
There's no girl that feels clicks in FW for me. Lacking that waifu factor, but we'll see...
>>747784464>She does seem to get a little bit bigger when she's mind controlled though.????????????
>>747784980idk i feel like the cards have the opposite problem of fe turtling. they're so strong that there's no tactical advantage in holding an otherwise superior position like a high cliff and you're always just bumrushing. it feels very forced and one-note
>>747784991don't question gacha retard logic
Love 3h.Love Engage.Hate FW. Simple as.
Gee, thanks, Amazon. Not like I wanted to do anything else during those 22 hours.
are you guys seriously going to play this game?
>>747786751yeah
>>747786751No. 3H was the peak anyways.
>>747786751>>747786664Obviously?
>>747786751I'll play the fuck out of this game for the next couple months
>>747786751no i've just been posting here for months on end about a game i have no interest in whatsoeveri bought a switch 2 for no reasoni've been keeping up to date on every bit of information because i don't care at all about the game
These threads are gonna be insufferable once the reviews hit no matter what they say
>>747787068They already are
>>747787068These threads will be insufferable tomorrow when people just talk about gameplay and pretend the game isn't awful.
>>747787068I really can't see a world where this game doesn't get good reviews. Seriously, all the previews I've seen have been completely positive, with barely a bad word said about it. So unless they completely shit the bed in the second half of the game but I doubt it.
>>747786751I don't even have a switch 2 so no
>>747786751Will tide me over until OoT, which will tide me over until GTA VI. Life is good.
>ISIS saw the hate Alear's design got and thought "people don't like avatars" and "timerra and fogado must be popular"Genuinely are they retarded?
>>747787509None of the Lords in this resemble Timera and Fogado.>B-but they're NIGGERSDon't care. They're coherent to their places and the setting, unlike miss Carnival balls in the spy desert kingdom.
>>747787068You say that like the threads have been pleasant up until now.
>>747787621>They're coherent to their places and the settingMost of them look like strippers
>>747787881Most like who?
>>747787068>I AM VERY GLAD TO INFORM YOU THAT THE PESKY FIRE EMBLEM GAMEPLAY HAS BEEN KEPT TO A MINIMUM AND YOU ONLY SPEND 10% OF YOUR TIME IN BATTLES>FINAL SCORE: 9.9/10 (PLEASE REMOVE THE GAMEPLAY COMPLETELY)
Engage derangement syndrome.
>>747787984Mental illness.The administrative part is fun too.
>>747787894Theodora Bonaventure Lilian Esmeralda Leda Buccar Diego Bertand Dante Alexandra Zarconne Noctula Kiroc Peppe Maria Dayan Baozi and that one silver haired fag I forgot the name of
>>747788041One of the previewers literally bragged about how little time he spent in battles.
>>747734960Mystery of the emblem is such a good game. That's how I played through fe1 as I despise the NES graphics.Although I must say, battle animations could use to be a little faster.
>>747788047You just randomly named characters.
any cute redheads?
>>747788608Yes, one is a onee-sama that reads romance novels and the other a narcissist. So both sexo.
FEkeks????
real EngageGODS love brown pussy
>>747788779
>>747788779I only played Coldsteel and the only thing I remember is that it turned into a mecha battle at the end which was really weird.But good for Trails, might look into that after I finish my first run of FW.
>>747753247Bait but the most unbelievable part is putting fe2 over fe1
>>747788897Mecha battles are an actual thing from 2 onwards
>>747788674that's all I needed to know, just placed my preorder
>>747765534You know Vestaria Saga has been practically unplayable since some windows update changing Java Script came out. If yoh trade an item onto a blank slot the game crashes. You can fix it be fucking around with .reg files but you shouldnt have to.
>>747789146Huh, I thought that would've just been a Rean thing going forward.Towa best girl.
>>747788779FW will pass it.
>>747789567in the losing competition
>>747789320Towa is great, yeah. But there's a lot of nice choices, I like Emma, Laura, Fie, Altina and Musse too. Time progresses between games and Emma gets very delicious.
>>747790165Does the teacher get hotter too? I wanted to romance her, but iirc the game didn't let you do that.Trying to recall old memories here, I probably played Coldsteel almost 10 years ago.
>>747790298Her design doesn't change that much, mostly different clothes, but Rean CAN romance her. Amusingly enough, both are teachers at that point, CS3-4 Rean plays the teacher role to his own class
>game has Hardin/Nyna 2DO NOT TRUST NOBLEWOMENTHEY BETRAYGET A CUTE VILLAGE GIRL
>>747734641Production order
>>747787068>game scores a 70>OH NONONO FWIGGER BROS>game scores a 95>newfags don't know about real fire emblem everyone but me is wrong
>fodlan sluts>dagdan whoresFor me, it's pure, loyal Kunlun jade beauties.
>>747792768perhaps these are two distinct groups of people who would react like you're saying? Just a thought.
>>747793086Bbbbbased
>>747793227I fucking HATE opinion B
>>747793305Marisha scares me
>>747793086Eshmel's duty as a mediator is to plap Kouka, Sha Lan and Anatolia
>>747793227I'd believe that a lot more if we didn't know for a fact that one guy is samefagging and falseflagging for about 14 hours a day. Unless we have multiple people who post in the exact same way with the same spelling and grammatical errors and get their posts deleted at th same time but are of different opinions, of course.
>>747793423he'll get plapped and mpreg'd by the bandit looking characters.
>>747793423Femsmell's job, with her 8.5 inch futa cock.
>Kouka
>IS's take from the playerbase's response to Engage's wasn't "art bad" or "story bad" or "writing bad" but... "avatar bad"I have no idea how IS even manages to operate. They may even be making Engage 2 at this rate.
>>747793642I samefag and falseflag but don't do it for 14 hours.When I leave for various activities or go to sleep, I check back on the threads and see anons using the same tactics for shitposting, carrying the flame of my activities throughout the 24 hour period. shoutout to my fellow shitposters carrying the torch.
>>747793809The director is the SOV director. I shouldn't need to tell you why he thinks that and also I agree with him
>>747793967>almost killed FE>put in charge again
>>747793967>the same dude that thinks Alm is the coolest also shills CaiIt all nakes sense now.
>>747793809they literally came to a conclusion that they needed Eshmel to glue the story togetherso that is definitely not their takebut they are right, people want more characters with well-defined personalities instead of blank states
>>747794317>people want more characters with well-defined personalities instead of blank statesThen why did they have to ruin it by adding a fucking avatar? I don't get how they found it difficult to write the second part of the game without having to add the avatar
>>747794710Because they wanted a full on bad end.
REVIEWS IN 18 MINUTES
>SOV director's plan was a FULL TIMESKIP-LESS GAME AS KID CAII would have genuinely skipped the Switch 2.
>>747794927timeskip would've still happenedjust without the time travel
>mediators can change their body reproduce in a variety of ways>male eshmel could get pregnant from dietrich anal sex
>>747794710if everyone has personal stories you can't blend them well together for the act 2 without making one lord more important than the other onesotherwise you would end up with giga chad Dietrich, leader of the Lamine clan, and the father of Diego's children
>>747795245i still don't see why eshmel can't have a personal story and have a fixed appearance and personality
>first review: cgmagazine 9
>>747795245Why would it be bad for one character to be more interesting than the others? As long as the other characters are well written, this is such a non issue.
>>747795389>Trails wonIt's over
>>747794927Roy kino...
>oh no their jew number is bigger than our jew numberyou're literal goyim, lapdogs for netanyahu
My Fortune's Weave copy finally arrived. See ya! I'm going to have fun. Best of luck to the rest of you.
>>747795858Have fun, anon
>>747783225I like hondaranya best as a nsfw FE artist, personally. His art is usually on model and in character too, which I prefer.
>>747794145He's not shilling Cai.>>747793809>but..."avatar bad"Glad he finally noticed.
>>747794927>as kid CaiHe never said that.
>echoesfags acting smug when their kusoge almost killed the franchise and it didn't even have an avatar they can blame it on
>>747796021Echoes was a remake of an obscture title on a dead system, and it copied too much the terrible gameplay from a game from the 90s. Other than that, it was great. An example to be followed.
>>747796021kusakihara thinks you're stupid and can't keep track of his puddle deep game so you get one save file.
>>747796021Alm was reimagined as an avatar>Bland Gary Stu>Beloved by everyone>Loved by multiple women>A new female character was created for the sole purpose of sucking his dick>Antagonists just look like ineffectual clowns in his presence
>>747795858Fuck you Australia.
>>747796021SoV was a success tho, not every title is meant to break sales records.
>>747796316>SoV was a success thoat the losing competition
>>747796364Get new material, faggot.
>>747796364holy cope
>>747796192which part of that was new other than #4
Now that the dust has settled and the reviews are mediocre, what went wrong? Not enough browns and homos?
>>747796662It's getting 10s lol
>>747796518The NES game barely had any writing and what little was there depicted Alm a bit rough around the edges. They could have gone literally any direction they wanted and they picked boring pseudo avatar loved by everyone. Even Marth had more to him.
>>747796316/v/ told me that games have to sell more than the previously released game otherwise it's a flop. line went down instead of up, so you're wrong.
>>747796692It's losing bigly against Trails.
>>747796793trails got 9s so no, not reallymaybe we should just be happy that we got two good games coming 5 star from eurogamer btw
>>747796793doesn matter nobody is gonna buy that game anyways trails is for gays
Is trails even a tactics gameIsn't it 4 in a row why would I give a fuck about it. They're completely different genres
>>747797092But... FW is 4 niggas in a row
>>747796192What is it with FE fans and calling everything an avatar? To me an avatar in FE is defined as a customizable unit where you can choose their growths and appearances. You don't get to choose the personalities of any of these characters, and starting with 3H you can't even customize anything about them aside from their name and gender. Are characters from most of the older Final Fantasy games avatars because you can name them? Byleth is a silent protagonist but that's a completely separate issue. Would Roy suddenly become an avatar if nothing about him was changed but you can now name and choose his gender?
>>747796662It's amazing how desperate you are.>>747797092Its right wingers being desperate when they are about to eat another L in the culture war they imagined.
>>747797229I'm a right winger and I'm calling this game based from the very start.
>>747797191BARELY, no one who likes fe for being fe will play that for more than 5 minutes
>>747796875No! Tribal war for my amusement!
>>747753247>series never gets a single OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GODshit series
>>747797765Ike basically says this to Ashunera.
>tfw only played pic relatedexplain why it's supposedly so much worse than the other games
>>747798757Bro...It's...so fucking bad...
>>747799162but whyI mean, I hated the story and got bored and dropped it halfway through, but I thought that was part and parcel with japshit weeb games
>>747798757Feetfags
>>747799207The gameplay is shit. The story is shit. The characters are shit. Like everything about it is shit besides maybe the sovlful pixel art
>>747798757>still unsurpassedHow does Awakening keep getting away with it?
>>747798757It has a lot of jrpg elements that dilute the tactics core of the series. Like the world map and being able to fight free battles for exp. The growth rates are all way too high and the terrain nerf sucks
>>747798757For me, it’s the pair-up system. Older games had a rescue system that let units carry adjacent allies at the cost of stat debuffs and reduced movement. In Awakening, pair-up essentially does the same thing but instead of drawbacks, it gives you stat bonuses. I personally don't like it.Then you have the second half of the game where the maps become a boring mess. The child units also felt like an afterthought and didn’t make much sense narratively.
>>747798757it's popular therefore it brought in a lot of normies therefore bad
>>747799451>Like the world map and being able to fight free battles for exp
>>747798757Awful maps, awful gameplay mechanics. Awakeningfags will bring up social sim elements and sales numbers as positive qualities, but they'll scratch their heads when people bring up gameplay.
>>747782408>steamingtofuBased. He made some new animations somewhat recently, too
>>747799769let me know when FE8 forces you to explore a hub world and dungeons for 75% of its runtime
>>747792509Nyna did nothing wrong, poor girl just got cucked nonstop
>>747796192Sounds more like you're describing Ike than any avatar to me
>>747798757Wannabe oldfags just seethe about it because they painted it as their eternal boogeyman. They will call it bad but won't ever be able to explain why it's supposedly so bad when confronted.
>>747800304Awakening doesn't do that either, so...
>>747800304Awakening, well known for its hub and dungeons.
>>747800394Didn't she cheat on Hardin with Quattro Bajeena?
>>747800394>don't mess with me, I'm fucking sirius
>>747800886No, she got cucked once again by an evil orb. Despite being essentially forced to marry Hardin, she honoured her marriage the whole time while Hardin tried to sacrifice her to Medeus.
>>747801264>After the war, upon the advice and pressure of Bishop Boah and other Archanean nobles, Nyna marries Hardin despite her lingering feelings for the lost Camus; as such, Hardin is crowned Archanea's 24th king. Hardin soon learns of the absence of love in their marriage, which casts him into a deep depression and, under the influence of Gharnef's Darksphere, twists him into a man of rage and hatred.The darksphere was Hardin's rebound.
>>747798757Why don't you just play one of the good ones and see for yourself?
>>747802926>cant explain it
>>747802495>Forced marriage wife doesn't love you instanty>Immediately cuck her for a stone and sacrifice her to Molo- I mean MedeusNyna's only mistake was listening to Boah at all