How's your 1cc going Anon?Extra stage?You are doing good right?
i got to stage 4 only
I will never consume touhou slop because I'm not a tranny
>>747744150>I never consume touhou so I'm a slop trannyfixed it for you
>>747744067already got all the cheevos, currently waiting for a PCB remake
>>747744460damn, big boy player here
Totally unplayable Needs a mod that replaces the character portraits with these
>>747744845disturbing
Extra stage was a success and I've busted the game on Hard. Lunatic not so much, but I'm getting to stage 6 more often now.
>>747744067How the fuck do people 1CC this genera? I get like halfway through on normal and start eating through lives like candy: i genuinely feel like a fucking retard.
Same as that Anon above, maybe i'll grind for a Hard 1cc once I feel like it, maybe i'll do it in the original, for some reason it looks easier in OG EoSD than NC, while Extra is kind of the opposite. I can get more mileage out of lower rank in the main game as opposite to NC's fixed max rank, and EoSD's instances of micrododging are sparse enough to make visible hitbox or PoC superfluous enough. I'll see when I get to it.Waiting for TH21 warmly now.
>>747745082bwo touhou is on the easier side of shmups but to answer your question it's just playing it more and practice. Eat shit for a few rounds on hard or lunatic and you will notice that normal became more managable
>>747745082>dungeon meshiYeah, you are definitely a retard.
>>747745082I can get through fine on hard mode until the last half of Stage 3. I do fine with the bosses but it's everything before that fucks my shit up.Fuck stage 4 and those stupid fucking books
>danmaku heartKINO
>>747744845Deeply tasteless creator
>>747745558How's your chao garden fangame coming along?
>>747745082Push the bomb button.The non-meme answer is it just takes a lot of practice, it's something you kind of get a feel for and you'll gradually find yourself having an easier time with things but not really be able to grasp what's different. Building up a good bomb reflex does go a long way though, when you learn to bomb when you're probably fucked and rarely bomb when you're not fucked you can make your resources stretch extremely far
>>747746286Nta but it's been like 10 years since I played the mainline Touhou games. How many points do you need to get an extra 1up or bomb? I know this is a thing in other shmups
>>747746593There are 3 score extends, I think the first is at 20 million or something and the last is at maybe 100? If you go to the collection line between enemy waves when it's safe to do so you'll have no trouble hitting them. Stage 3 and 5 midbosses each also drop an extend.
>>74774659310, 20, 40 and 60 millions are the score requirements for 1ups.Remember to use Point of Collection if you're playing New Classic, it helps significantly. Everything past Daiyousei in Stage 2 is a free PoC (including the fairies that you can just snipe, they spawn left to right, then right to left every time and are the only source of bullets after the birds)There's also 3 waves of enemies after Koakuma that don't shoot anything, this should net you a free 3 million from just killing and PoC'ing their points. The score extends are generally a non issue anyway, their timing may come sooner or later based on which shot you're playing but you should be getting them all without even actively thinking about it.
>>747746959>>747746875Looks like I was totally wrong on the score extends, ignore me lol
what are the extra phantom requirements? something feels really good about being able to go back and watch my own flandre extra clear from years ago for help
>>747747950You just have to have captured a certain amount of her spells. If you can clear her you're probably already meeting the requirements so you don't really have to think about it
>>747744067Got Hard 1cc's with default lives and bombs with everyone now trying to get Extra+ with all characters so far only got it with ReimuB. Extra on its own is easy enough but catching 6 spellcards and then having resources to survive final 3 is a bit tricky.
>>747749225>Extra on its own is easy enough but catching 6 spellcards and then having resources to survive final 3 is a bit tricky.I had a different experience I got to phantasm while I actively didn't want to, had to die on purpose and bomb for a regular Flandre kill. I don't see myself clearing phantasm
>>747749317It's kind of dumb that reaching phantasm doesn't give you the base "beat flan" achievementIn general the achievements on this release are pretty fucked
>>747750418>>It's kind of dumb that reaching phantasm doesn't give you the base "beat flan" achievementyes I am angry about that since it didn't count after I cleared QED and went straight to phantasm where i died and got cucked.In addition to doing hardass content I had to police myself to not do too good to trigger it but also not too bad to fail.
>>747747950There are 2 checks for it, you only need to met one of them: either capture 6 of Flan's spellcards or capture QED - her last spellcard.
>>747744067I'm playing on Hard, and damn, Master Spark just vaporizes the Spell Cards; I just need to practice the stages, and I might actually pull off a 1CC.
>>747744845>God-tier artstyle with dogshit fetish (anon's image)>Dogshit artstyle with god-tier fetishWhy is 90% of nsfw art like this?
>>747750643useful and informative. thank you chen
>>747752846God has a twisted sense of humour
>>747752846Most people into kinky shit have their style and proportion sensors burnt out by excess so they tend to lean towards weird overdone art styles
>>747745082You try again until you figure out which stage sections/boss patterns you can "solve" for yourself and clear without too much issue, and which actually give you consistent trouble, and after that you plan your run accordingly and use bombs whenever you anticipate problems. Also use spell practice liberally for the aforementioned boss patterns, and stage practice for stages.>>747744067I did my government-mandated ReimuA Normal 1cc a couple days ago, but although I planned to start practicing the other shots and maybe Hard mode and Extra stage too, real life shit has been getting in the way. It's past midnight and I'm almost done storing away the apple jam I made tonight, and in the morning it's work like always. Haha, I'm in danger.
>>747744845Kill yourself nigger
I use MarisaBIs A just better though?
>>747754931A has better DPS but it has a way worse bomb than B
>>747755231So A is better than B in Extra Stage yes?
>>747755391I did actually beat Extra as A, it just melts the hp in record speed
>>747744067Im having fun
>>747755716yeah thanks I'll get MariA for extra stage
I 1cc the game on Normal/Hard and did Flandre, I can do some Flandre's spell no problem. I am working on her new three spells.I want to 1cc the game on Lunatic but that's surprisingly big leap from Hard thus far.I 1cc all the mainline Touhou games.Realizing how easy Touhou is relative to other shumps made me less happy about 1cc these games, made me realize I'm still not nearly as good as I thought. Even Caladrius Blaze is kicking my ass and that isn't even particularly hard game either.
>>747756526I was super into shmups, after clearing all 2hus in Normal I went and tried some CAVE games, cleared both Mushihimesamas on NormalThen I got really obsessed in trying to clear Futari on Ultra and got raped and stopped playing themI also remember clearing PCB on Lunatic with lots of lives to spare, I was surprised it took me many tries to get Hard here on EoSD but I realized PCB is probably the easiest game in the series lol
>>747756725Yeah, PCB is very easy, its main gimmick trivializes a lot of the game.
>>747756526>Even Caladrius Blaze is kicking my ass and that isn't even particularly hard game either.can't clear that shit, I did manage to clear Dodonpachi and Crimzon Clover lately though and those are pretty hard
>>747756526It doesn't matter unless if you play for score which is the only one real thing other shmups have over touhou.Their scoring systems tend to be much more refined but at that point you're too deep into speedrunning autism shit, a niche of a niche of a niche sustained by several dozens of veterans on a forum or chat room at best.Survival play is much more straightforward and reasonable and that's what touhou excels at. Lunatic / LNB runs are comparable to most other shmups' difficulty level for normal play.
>>747754668miku
>>747745082You can practice stages and spell cards.
>>747755391Marisa A is probably the best shot type for Extra with Reimu B.Patchouli spell card (especially Royal Flare) are trivialized.QED is less annoying because you can bottom hug without losing a lot of DPS unlike Reimu B or Marisa B.Four of a Kind can be killed very quickly.The big drawback is the lack of range/spread which can make nonspell a bit more threatening and she suffer a lot from bad movement RNG from Flandre.
>>747760448You mean especially Philosopher's Stone? Royal flare is static so it's inherently trivialized once you know how to approach it. no matter the shot type
>>747744067I gave up. Once shmups start getting hard I just kind of fall off eventually. I will forever be able to no miss stages 1-4 but after that im in shambles every time.
>>747761080If you can no miss stages 1 to 4 you should have enough to just bomb your way all the way to completion.
>>747761193Once I take the first sakuya death I crumble. Touhou should be used as a prime example of how mental endurance correlates to better scores.
>>747760829You don't even have to learn it with Marisa A. Just bottom hug at the middle of the screen and she will die in less than 10 seconds before anything can hit you.
>>747744067Stage 4 fucks me over, but the thing that fucks me up the most are those couple semgents throughout the game where a bunch of ying yang symbols that spit tiny green orbs assault you.
I hate royal flare
I hate starbow break
>>747763648How do you even beat this?
>>747763864stay under her and pray for good rng
>>747763901fuck this
>>747763864You dodge. To the left.
>>747764587if you really can't do it, there's a safespot right under the "n" in enemy.
i like this "cirno" character from the game.can someone tell me more about her? i want to know more about her.
>>747764867Play the games bro
>>747764867She's childish and gets mad at things easily and doesn't act very smart.
>>747744845Best post on /v/ right now.
>>747744845His art style is so inspiring... Meiling looks perfect here, this is definitely her canon body type.
>>747764867She stronk
>>747744845Any update on his futa remilia game?
its been 19 years since i first played th6 and i still cant get past stage 4 without having to use a continue lol
>>747764867Name:• According to those who visited the Touhou Project Exhibition in 2022, Cirno's name was originally "チルド" (Chirudo). It was likely that some time during development, ZUN changed this to "チルノ" (Chiruno) after reading the manga Sarai and seeing a character with a name similar to what he had already conceptualized. Sarai has many other similarities to EoSD, such as having a character named Patchouli, a hand pose by Nudge that looks similar to Remilia's hand pose, and a visual for Nudge that looks similar to Sakuya's character portrait.Design:• Mai from Mystic Square (outfit design, hair design, ice theme, portrait pose)• Marisu (unused character) from Twinkle Star Sprites (outfit design)• Tanned Sakura from Marvel vs. Capcom (Tanned Cirno)Character:• Mai's personality and theme could be referencing the Divine Comedy's ninth circle of Hell which might explain the• EoSD's full version was released at Comiket 62 on August 11th, 2002. In EoSD, Cirno was not associated with the infamous insult "バカ" (idiot). About two years later, Sarai's Cirno used the phrase in Sarai, Volume 12, page 98, released in August 2004. About three months before the infamous PoFV manual called Cirno an idiot, PoFV's demo (version 0.01a) released at Reitaisai 2 on May 4th, 2005. In that demo, Reimu said to Cirno, "あ、バカ発見" (Ah, idiot sighted).Spell Cards:• Continuing with Cirno's possible association with the Divine Comedy, she has a spell card called Freeze Sign "Freeze Actress" in the earliest EoSD demo (the Divine Comedy is a popular writing commonly used in acting) and a spell card in PoFV called Freeze Sign "Cold Divinity".• One of Mai's attacks after Yuki has been defeated looks extremely similar to Cirno's Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" spell card.
>>747764867Songs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7TXVtGGFcTitle: Tong Poo (also known as East Wind)Artist: Yellow Magic Orchestra (YMO)Release Date: 1978Time of Reference: 0:38 - 1:07https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re0K9dqGt9YTitle: Omoide No Itoguruma (想い出の糸車)Artist: Kunihiko Mitamura (三田村 邦彦)Release Date: 1981Time of Reference: 0:23 - 0:33This song has a theme of love throughout it which could be the inspiration for the title of Cirno's theme, "おてんば恋娘" (Lovestruck Tomboy).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfH5usYFxSoTitle: Min mor sa till mejArtist: OrupRelease Date: 1988Time of Reference: 2:28 - 2:35This song has the line "Och som den blåögda idiot man nu en gång är" (And like the blue-eyed idiot I once was) from 0:35 - 0:40. It also contains a theme of love throughout the song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFi_9V8Hw8Title: Love Me (also known as the theme of Arthur Schmitt)Game: Twinkle Star Sprites (ティンクルスタースプライツ)Time of Reference: 0:13 - 0:26Release Date: November 25th, 1996Both this song and Cirno's theme have "love" in their titles.
>>747745445What's the trick? Misdirect as hard as you can?
>>747767057>>747767120Autism
I remember hearing the guy who draws the kaguya cbt actually tried it out in real life and was so disgusted by it that he stopped drawing cbt. Is that an honest fact real touhou patriots?
>>747764921hmm...no.>>747764987didn't zun say she was the smartest fairy tho?>>747765503i knew that>>747767057>>747767120i feel like this is less 'here's some cool info' and more 'i did a personal dissection of zun's brain and this is all the things that influenced him'how can you even know all this
>>747767498Even if she was the smartest fairy that's like saying you're best little league player
>>747767498>didn't zun say she was the smartest fairy tho?All fairies are heckin' stupid. Each and every one of them. Fanart portrays Daiyousei as the motherly fairy and Luna Child as a mixture between Patchouli and Kaguya, but both of them are dumb as rocks just like Cirno. Saying that Cirno is the smartest is less saying that Cirno is smart and more that all the other fairies are so incredibly stupid that Cirno looks smart by comparison.
>>747763648>>747763864The bullet hitboxes are pretty small, there are more gaps than you probably thinkDon't stay too low, it's easier to get walled that way
>>747767640>Luna Child as a mixture between Patchouli and Kaguya
>>747767640>>747767737Meant to say Star Sapphire, my bad.
Star puts pipe bombs in snowmen
Makoto Hirasaka (SaBND, OSP, etc.) actually referenced that similarity.
>>747768047Mokou is so fucking cute jesus
>>747767498The actual greek sex fairy is shown to be the smartest by far.
>>747768143Canonically, both Cirno and Clownpiece can read and write. Cirno can do basic math, but Clownpiece cannot. Cirno is smarter in the "I can memorize more things" sense, but Clownpiece is smarter in the "recognizes situations" sense.Not to Dragon Ball Z this argument, but if we're talking about Tanned Cirno, then Cirno has the clear edge. Then again, we haven't seen a Tanned Clownpiece, so maybe Tanned Clownpiece would be smarter? It depends on what aspect of Clownpiece gets magnified.
>>747768808>caring about the power levels of fictional fairies in a decades-old recycled shmup franchise that ZUN can change at a whim because he forgot things or because he's drunk
imperishable night new classic when? its still the best touhou lol
do you think itll go on sale during the steam sale next month?
>>747744845Lore accurate Meiling and Patchouli.
>>747768808Fairies are the embodiment of nature, clownpiece can only theorically be empowered in hell due to coming from there unlike cirno
>>747768143Cunnylingus
Sunny is the smartest fairy.
>>747769084after PCB
>>747768808The Light Trio treat Cirno like a drooling retard and basically have the intelligence of the 3 year old children that they appear to be. Meanwhile CP constantly makes the Three look like idiots.
>>747770064It's important to remenber she was in the moon, and the lunarians are of magnitudes stronger than anything in gensokyo
>>747770168She's been alive at least over a 1000 years and isn't a dumb rock or twig that has gained semi-sentience from ambient nature energy. She maybe a fairy but she is a western fairy, more akin to a monster than the type found in Gensokyo.
>>747770168That's because Junko supercharged her, by the end of her manga she was back to being an ordinary fairy or else she would have solo'd Okina.
I love KuranpiisuMy beloved damn brat
>>747767475Who would have thought that something clearly incredibly painful actually doesn't feel good, huh, must take a rocket scientist to figure that out
>>747770640She still just fucking burned the hakurei shrine because she was bored lmao
>>747771129Burning wood isn't very difficult
>>747771170No but the aftermath is
I got a fake Hard 1cc as MarisaA (5 lives)I think if I can iron out some things I can maybe get it.Timing out Sakuya's non to not have to deal with the latter half of Stage 5 is a strat.
>>747771129The shrine burns down as often as the SDM blows up, not saying much.
>>747745124Shouldn't Momiji's sword be enormous?
flan cute
>>747744845steamed muchi muchi pork buns coming soon
>>747771548Shouldn't you shut the fuck up?
https://youtu.be/GM9RXfnqxn8?t=124>tfw 2:04 hits
>>747771548Currently lodged in a crow's backside.
>>747768949You're just mad because Suika has power and control over density.
>>747771914Vastly inferior to the original. Not nearly as frenetic and brash. Barely even magical girlish.
>>747772040so does your momwell she can make it go up, anyway
>>747771914Something about this song always felt extremely PC-98esque and I can't put my finger on why.
>>747772123I'm gonna get an ulcer when they remake PCB
>>747772542It always felt like an unused staff roll from a 98 game ZUN stuck in there. It is rather out of place.
>>747771914I'm sorry but this is shit
>>747772902It sounds a lot better in-game when you're dealing with a bunch of stuff on screen. For standalone music listening, it's just way too busy
>>747767498>didn't zun say she was the smartest fairy tho?She can do basic math.
>>747773050Cirno is good at remenbering things but also she is hilariously gullible
>>747771914It's so fucking good and anyone saying it's worse than the original is nuts
>>747774207they've not got headphones or good speakers
>>747774207its dogshit bro
>>747771538I actually fucking got it holy shitThe run was such a rollercoaster of ups & downs>Do kinda shit against Meiling. Time my bombs properly but still end up using 3 on her for Rainbow Wind Chime, that one spell with the blue bullets that gets added in Hard/Lunatic, and her 2nd to last spell (That spell's really easy normally so it's a shame)>Really good Patchouli fight overall (Captured everything but Lava Cromlech, no choke on the nons)>Really bad Stage 5 and Sakuya, wasted 5 bombs total between a missed bomb on stage and on Sakuya non 1, The World was uncooperative so I also bombed it>Amazing Remilia, captured the first 3 spells, bombed only non 2 because I choked, and I was able to squeeze by through Meister & Gensokyo with what I had left, leaving me at 1 life.Fuck Switch 2 screenshots for being so obtuse to get i'm not using a shitty app or a specific kind of microSD just to get my screenshot of my clear. Hope ZUN maybe finds a way to transfer replays or something.
>>747771914wtf is this mess
>>747771914actually sounds festivalish now
>>747774605grats on the 1cc frenI didn't think my winning run was going to end well either. when I missed four power up symbol drops on stage one before Rumia even showed her face I thought 'this isn't the run'. but it was. funny how many shit runs turn into 1ccs
>>747775429Raymoo
Man, patchouli fucking sucks to fight
>>747776952what character and shot type are you using?
>>747767057>Tanned Sakura from Marvel vs. Capcom (Tanned Cirno)Has anyone actually drawn fanart of Tanned Cirno and Tanned Sakura together? There's really early fanart of Cirno with Sakura before Cirno became tanned, but they're only together because they're all bakas.
>>747777038MarisaA
>>747771914wtf?
>>747744067Waiting for physical.
The mainline games are amazing but nothing will ever make me feel quite like when I first played Touhou 2 with the midi soundfont on.I admit that I played the pc98 games before trying anything after 6
>>747779391>spoilerMore based than the entirety of this fanbase
>>747775429When I played SoEW for the first time I hadn't listened to the entirety of its OST so when I got to Stage 4 I was half grooving half giggling because man if that shit isn't just blatant plagiarism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmZOtXxJfSYNot to stir that pot again since it's the same beats every time but this one is just really funny, you can't miss it. It gut punches you right from the get go with the>Wait a minute i've heard that song before
cirno is the smartestestanyone saying cirno is dumb is jealous youkai propaganda
>Marisa is a self-insert for ZUN stealing from others
>>747780046So ZUN own words is youkai propaganda?
>>747780108>ZUN own words>>747767057>About three months before the infamous PoFV manual called Cirno an idiot, PoFV's demo (version 0.01a) released at Reitaisai 2 on May 4th, 2005. In that demo, Reimu said to Cirno, "あ、バカ発見" (Ah, idiot sighted).Reimu said it first. ZUN was quoting her.>but Reimu isn't a youkai!>Reimu's predecessor became a youkai, so it's definitely possible.
>>747780152Okay let's go one game back to IN spellcards descriptions...
>>747780152>Reimu's predecessor
>>747779938I don't blame him for doing it cause this shit sounds amazinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dTBY4kFeMU
>>747780223But she's not tho
>>747780108>>747780215>implying ZUN isn't a youkaiNo human can drink as much as he does and still have a functioning liver.
>>747780223That picture feels wrong somehow...
ZUN also called Cirno a "really hot" ice fairy, and honestly, who's am I to argue with him?
>>747780551Flarno
>>747780259she was allied to them before she died
>>747780223>>747780046Blue hair best hair
>>747780461Cuz Mimi fucking died
>>747780215Wriggle is a cute retard
>Le'en project got a much better lore>at the cost of everything else
I finally played my first Touhou game, Perfect Cherry Blossom the NES demake. I thought it was pretty good, so I'll try this out.
>>747767475it can't be because he still draws ball crushing. though his style is literal actual ball destruction, like crushing them into paste or eating them or ripping them away, so i don't think it takes trying it to know it's bad
>>747744067My balls of the Meira variety already beat it
>>747767498The smartest fairy is actually Larva
>>747780927Looking at her backstory, did she ever actually kill anyone?
>>747782241Satori and Mima fans
I did a Reimu A run before this with two lives left, but this Marisa A one was even sloppier. Still made it though. Just gotta do Reimu B now so I can get the last ending. I forgot how addicting these games can be.
>>747782241No, its just the fact she went youkai
I still can't fathom how people can read the manga when nothing ever happens with no stakes involved
>>747767120>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFi_9V8Hw8There's a part in the song that sounds like the Special Stage theme from Sonic Heroes.
>>747782395>nothing ever happens
>>747782395>>747782516Benben canonically got testicles in the manga and you're saying nothing ever happens?
>>747782208It's just Larva
>>747782560Source now nigga
>>747782516rape?
>>747782632This isn't Sarai, so no. Strange seeing ZUN whore out his series to those who lewd his characters. Still not as bad as some of the things LostWord has done...
No... I've been getting worse results the longer I play. I just played so long my eyes felt like everything was scrolling up for a few minutes, and nothing to show for it.
>>747782516>>747782560NothingEverHappens
>>747782628her soul was pulled out of her body and put into a tanuki statue, you know the ones with big balls
>>747782628>>747782694
>>747782678>Strange seeing ZUN whore out his series to those who lewd his characters>He thinks this a new occurrence
>>747782693Go to sleep or take a break.You'll do 1 or 2 rusty runs but then you'll get into the flow of it while still remembering what you learned from last session.A nap won't kill your memory retention, you aren't 70+ years old.
Is Yah a boy now technically?
>>747782395Read a shonentard manga then
>>747782678zun is like the only person in the world who doesn't lewd touhou, so it's hard to avoid that
>>747782752Am I stuttering, retard?This is fuckall
>all the normies are getting the flandre achievement through challenge mode>now i have to go for the phantom extra achievement so i can appear superior to themit's not fair...
New meme: Nigtori
>>747782843>>747782827
>>747782843>Benben, one of Touhou's most beloved characters, gets turned into a Tanuki statue with LARGE FULLY FUNCTIONAL DICK AND BALLS>"This is fuckall"Alright Jackass, let's see YOUR ideas for "something happening"
>>747782984>Benben, one of Touhou's most beloved characters(...)You lost me already
>>747782854I remenber that pic of a normalfag claiming the game is easy after dying 72 times
>>747783029Alright now I knwo you're trolling
>>747782854You can get the Phantom Extra in Challenge Mode too you just have to capture 6 of Flandre's spells and finish with 2 or under in the lives counter
>>747782854You are already as normalfag as it gets, you are playing touhou. It's like pretending you're a gamer because you beat skyrim on legendary difficulty
>>747783101t-this can't be...
>>747783104SHMUPtards actually believe this
>>747783104Funniest joke itt
>>747783172Please understand they are still coping Dodonpachi ate shit and died
>>747783271I love Dodonpachi but I love Touhou too. I just like video games, I'm not a part of the autistic "real vs fraudulent shmup" war, the only shmups I would call fraudulent are euroshmupsCAVE could get a bigger following if they used their braincells but instead they released a port nobody wanted and made it even worse than expected
The remake has smaller hitboxes but bosses actually have i-frames now between spellcards to compensate. You could cheese through a lot of bosses in the original by shotgunning them but now you can't with the remake
>>747783172>using the term "normies">farming steam achievements>giving a shit about achievements at all>not just hopping straight into lunatic and pushing the leaderboardsWhat do you think you are exactly
>>747783467Tell me about it, fucking QED kicks my shit in, I don't know how people consistently capture that. I've done it a few times in practice but it's anything but consistent
>>747783572QED is nerve-wracking. I try to dodge in a way to avoid circle intersections, so you're only dodging 1 circle wave of bullets at a time instead of 2 or even 3, but it's hard to do in practice for the last 10 or so seconds
Why is PCB the best game and why it got best girl yuyuko?
Why is MS the best game and why it got best girl Shinki?
>>747784556Back then battles had actual stakes, Mama Shinki burned down a city by accident. That's my goddess!
>>747784556Alice's mother
I miss "villains" like Junko
>>747744067Ruined by muslim propaganda
>>747784556Devil's Original is coolest "spellcard" in the series
>>747784556MS got playable yuuka so i can't do nothing but concede
I could but I hate the Ai upscaling of the art of the original looks hideous.Wondering if should because th6 on the switch does seem novel
>>747784771Yachie is the most vile character in recent times
>>747785178Not what I meant when I said "villains".
>>747785210I wouldn't call junko a "Villain" either as what she is trying is also pure evilThough personally fuck the lunarians, total lunarian death
REMINDER
>>747785302The PC98 art is really good.
>Got a 1cc with every shot type but Reimu BI feel like it shouldn't be this hard to win with this shot type, and yet it is for some reason.
>>747785302>shitmata>not a larper
>>747785407ReimuB has the shortest bomb length, if you are having issues maybe you are relying on your bombs too much?
>>747785407ReimuB is just poor man's marisa in every single respect
>>747744067Took me 20 deaths on easy to beat it, even though i beat Deathsmiles Black Label without a single death
>>747784556Thoughts on Shinki's daughter?
>>747744845I have trouble imagining sakuya dabbing on meiling when she is a million times hotter than sakura
>>747785407ReimuB expects you to shotgun whenever you have the opportunity to do so. It brings her closer to MarisaA in damage, and the wider spread of her amulets can help in stages. Sucks that she has the hardest Patchouli probably.
>>747785707Shinki raised Alice with love and care despite her being adopted
I have never completed a 1CC because every time I get to the sixth stage my fumos come to life and start trying to assault me, causing me to waste all my lives in rapid succession. My Chimata fumo has tried to suffocated me 12 times, my Yuuka fumo has strangled and beat me up 4 times, and my Marisa fumo has only tried to throw a pipe bomb at me once. But, that one time was the first and last time I tried playing on easy modo just to prove I can get a 1CC of any kind.
>>747785707Mai > Alice > Yumeko > Yuki > Louise > Sara
>>747745082>map out where you die>consider if you can get past it by figuring out a pattern>if bombing is less of a hassle just plan to bomb at that point>farm extend for extra lives and bombsUnlike CAVE games Touhou isn't that hard, as long as you have a vague understanding of this mindset you can clear it in a week
>>747785762>Sucks that she has the hardest Patchouli probably.This is definitely the case. Patchouli's first spellcard with Reimu B is some genuine horse shit.
>>747785915Anon you cannot even get to stage 6 on easy modo in EoSD.And the fumos assaulted you not for trying to 1cc but for playing on easy, they just couldn't believe their owner was such a pansy.Try playing on Normal and it should be fine.
>>747763864>>747763648If you are too shit to do it normally there's a safespot pretty much on the "n" letter, nothing hits you there.
>>747785915Anon you're supposed to milk your fumos of deadly fumo gas before attempting 1CCs or else that happens.
>>747763864You need to switch focus to the fast falling bullets and try to tune out the slow ones. The hitboxes are also surprisingly generous so where possible graze through the small gaps. It's still a shit spell though.
>>747771914Did FDF 1 do Flandre stage ost better?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL09o_6z6VQ&list=PLV_uZLiOrQ28SG6pZcLGcBj8EoktAZG36&index=14
>>747779078bro your OG release?
Do we still like Sakuya.
>>747787735I like her when I'm playing as her in the other games. In EoSD I hate her fucking guts and I don't have fun with any of her spellcards.
>>747782854same bwo, at least I have proof with my replay
>>747785629no way
>>747787735She does a good werewolf impression.
>>747787735Sakuya doesn't believe in Jesus, so no.
>>747744067Cirno is raping me. And not in the good way.
>listen to stage 5 track in isolation>mind adds Sakuya's midboss knife spam sounds anywayAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>747746020It ain't me fool
Why is this nigga so asininally mentally ill?
>>747782516>shoesRUINED RUINED RUINED RUINED RUINED RUINED
>>747779391>Touhou 2 with the midi soundfont onhow?
Anyone know the best way to dodge the fairies' attacks before Sakuya in Stage 6? This seems like an easy pattern but they all start firing off and I'm immediately lost. Are these aimed at you?
>>747783101harder than playing it normally so is getting a good ending on the main campaign
Meanwhile in Touhou: LostWord
>>747790456Thanks, I hate it
>>747790456CUTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>747790456meanwhile in touhou lostword american edition
>>747790456>the glasses are supposed to be spider eyes...oh!
>>747784556Because it has stakes from the get goZUN designed it as his last touhou game, it's the big send-off to his fun little collage projects and it thematically seeps through with Shinki, the creator of makai destroying her entire world against the player. + the extra stage being a scorned, orphaned Alice is pure extra stage kino (unlike LLS where it's a random bs extra)MS will be even more GOAT'd when they release the new classic to come full circle and be the last thing ZUN is involved with before retiring from 2hu
>>747790569>RerunA hippity and a hoppity
>>747782395That's just Touhou in general, Touhou has no stakes. And every time ZUN teases it, it gets hand-waved.Touhou is literally "nothing ever happens" universe.
>>747790456>>747790569If there is one thing gachas are good for, it's the art. Satori in Wonderland is adorable.
>>747782516"blushes"
>>747790768And I like it that way.
>>747790768>>747790816its not a bad thingnot everything needs stakes and shit, it can just be fun
>>747744067When oldfags talk about 1CC you don't actually mean normal difficulty do you, you sick fucks.
>>747790174>Are these aimed at you?Yes, just tap dodge right before the aimed bullet reaches you and repeat for each wave. You can kill some of the fairies by waiting on either side of the screen as they spawn in.
>>747789414it's so obvious with his shelving of rec98 that he just didn't want them to take the decomp code like they did for the eosd decompnone of the "vibe coded" forks that were real in his mind have any traces of existing
>>7477909461cc means any difficulty above easy with default starting lives and bombs. Anything else requires further specifications and in general you mention the difficulty anyway just to be clear.
>>747790946normal is the "how it's meant to be played" difficultly of Touhou right?
>>747791147Arguable. Hard is often categorized as "Arcade" difficulty and very often Normal has less and different spellcards than Hard, while difference between Lunatic and Hard are less noticeable - generally same spellcards and enemy waves, just with much higher difficulty level.Normal is more of a passing grade - nothing to be ashamed of and still took effort but you missed on some of the content game has to offer.
are y'all taking it easy?
>>747791503>Remi yukkuri
>>747791503does it also simulates torture? like they die if you don't feed them
>>747791380hard being designed first makes sense there's a bunch of normal cards that are badly designed and harder than the hard ones
help i'm trying to 1cc TD on normal but the stages are boring me to death
>>747792041its the shittiest game gameplay wise...mmm maybe 16 is worse
>>747792103>kogasa with two blue eyesscary...
>>747792103Where is her red eye?
>>747792189>>747792227didnt even notice thatdeleted that garbage
>>747791668yes
>>74779210316 at least has playable chiruno
patchouli
>>7477909461cc without mentioned difficulty always implies normal. If you beat it hard+ people tend to mention difficulty
>>747792572Futanari urethral sex + ball impregnation artist
>>747785408>larp>clit on plasma>suddenly feel hostility all around meMaybe god has always hated mehttps://youtu.be/Gu1DoFOZzdkhttps://youtu.be/ncBJAXfIsrE>president looks like an actual expresident of my countryMaybe the babylon clock is ticking
>>747792750Oh no, anon looked at the true full moon again
>>747792750There.Now it's Touhou related.
>>747744067I had 6 lives in stage 3 and I saw I had 6 lives and I panicked and lost them all :(
>>747763864
>>747792893just don't panic bwo, have fun
>>747792875>not a sporkStill ruined
>>747774207>>747774323>>747771914I use headphones and it sounds inferior. The first half of the song is good, but the breakdown at this part is bad because it sounds drunk.Compare it to the original non-cucked version where the trumpets and bassline are louder and prouder: https://youtu.be/Zs7zF8AxQCc?list=RDZs7zF8AxQCc&t=93
>>747792893don't give up anon! save the panicking for Patchouli's random books!
Hello. Killing Doll and Scarlet Gensokyo on lunatic are awful spellcards and I hate them. Thank you for your attention.
>>747793093Don't argue with him it's pointless. Even if high tier audiophile headphones magically make the new tracks good, ZUN released the game on Switch so he should have made them sound good on default Switch handheld speakers, let alone on normal PC soundcards and headphones.
>>747792572fatass
>>747792875>have dream when I get a new material, purple metallic shinning with light from another universe>use it in my vesselsThis is the actual color, texture and not a spoon https://grey-goo.fandom.com/wiki/Trident , it really feels like everything is connected, I'm scared but I also want to feel anons reaction just to be sure I am not hallucinating this life>touhou relatedEverything anime is touhou related, and everything is painful
>>747793368the switch has a headphone jack, you're retarded
>>747793572meds. now.
>>747793712Not sorry, the touhou gravemind doesn't feel appealing to me*trashes gensyoko pills*https://youtu.be/9P2Tv8RC-V4
I don't feel like 2huing tonight, play some 2hu for me please
>>747793983ok!
>>747792918Guy with the big head on the left is going to die
YAY I GOT MY LUNATIC 1cc!!!I just wanted to unlock MarisaA for Extra so I gave it a try. I don't know how LunaticGODS do it, some spells like Misdirection, Killing Doll and Meister are literally impossible. Meister in particular seems like speeded up 2x from Hard to Lunatic kek
>>747791503somewhat easy
>>747794270>challenge modeAnon that's not a 1cc....
>>747794270...wait it doesn't count to unlock for the Extra stage lol
>>747793093the bass line on the new is more complex, but the other instrumentation drowns it out, mostly the trumpets if you don't have headphones
>>747794270>25 missesanon I...
>>747794450I didnt even try to bomb, went blind and died to fucking Cirno
>>747794368That's what you get for playing ch*llenge mode lol. Play it like 2002 ZUN intended
>>747794368because it's not a legitimate clear
>>747794368only counts if you have 5 deaths or less
https://youtu.be/88D3gZ_a49E>え… コントローラ欲しいは…Reminder, touhou is intended to be played on a gamepad
>you are only a gamer if you have an nvdia card rex 6666The market is going crazy again
Now, if you excuse me, I'll be losing on Patchy's stage.
>>747795168It's beyond me how anyone can prefer to play these games with a controller. I tried playing the remake with a gamepad and just barely got a 1cc with no extra lives left and I normaly beat hard mode no problem. It's feels so awkward.
>>747796148It's just muscle memory, I got all of my 1cc's on controller and would die trying to get any of them on keyboard. Just use what's comfortable for you.
>>747796148I had the opposite experience. I've only ever played keyboard and had a surprisingly easy time getting used to the switch controller. Only issue is its not a very ergonomic controller, hand would cramp after only a few runs if I wasn't regularly stretching it in downtime.
>>747796148moving diagonals is much easier on dpad or stick
>Reimu shows off her tummy in lost branchFine I'll buy it
>>747796926>switch controllerjoycons? I've tried with the snes, gamecube and procon 2. plus keyboard on PC before. procon 2 using the stick is my favourite, gamecube would be good too if you didn't have to completely compress the trigger to focus imo joycon 2 sticks are less comfortable than 1 for some reason as for keyboard, I can hardly get anywhere with it. is it possible to use a controller in any of the PC98 emulators? I might go back and try to 1cc MS and LLS if so
>>747797281Switch 1 joycons yeah. But using the dpad only. There's something about analog movement that doesn't suit me, much prefer the precision of digital inputs.>is it possible to use a controller in any of the PC98 emulators?I'm almost positive that I've seen people do it but I don't know the specifics sorry.
>>747796148Behold, the greatest controller for shmups.
Challenge mode? More like mentally challenged mode
>>747796473>>747796926>>747797004I guess it's personal preference. It's just, with a joystick if you want to change directions you have to move the stick from one direction all the way to the other, which may only take a split second, but that split second gets me killed on the harder patterns. With arrow keys it's easier to move left and right rapidly.
Imma be honest, seeing anime sluts shake their asses makes my dick very happy
More beatMARIO infecting zun with green girlshttps://youtu.be/LrBMhDxN4xM
Is the remake that different from the original? Or is it just autism
>>747798150I get you that's why i have about a 90-10 usage split between d-pad and joystick. Stick is mostly used only for chill parts of stages where proper positioning yourself before next fairy wave and fluid movement is more important than precise one. Once bullets starts becoming dense I switch to dpad, bosses are pretty much exclusively played on it. I played so much over the years already I don't even think about it my thumb just does the switching between them automatically.
>>747798150Counterpoint: claw grip so you can switch instantly to the opposite direction on the dpad from the stick
>>747769153No
>>747796148its pretty comfy actuallybut i am a schizo who also plays fighters on pad
>>747798451Different for superplayers, there were minor changes to hitbox sizes and shapes which make real changes to certain patterns. For your average player trying for a normal 1cc it's just quality of life changes like having visible hitboxes, poc always on, spell practice. And the music was made worse but you can always swap to the original so whatever.
>>747798427SURELY this will bring Yuuka back
>>747798496>Once bullets starts becoming dense4me it's the opposite, I do micro movements with small flicks of the stick so use it 90% of the time. easier again to move slightly in a diagonal plus, precise but fluid movements to snake around bullet curtains
>>747798427SURELY this will bring Mima back
I bought the Switch 2 version to play at work but I can hardly get a good run up-to /past Meiling. It's frustrating. I guess I'll just stick to the keyboard at home.
So where exactly should I be looking on the screen as a newfag to shmups?Close to the bullet origin and then dodge with my peripheral vision?I keep focusing on my hitbox but it feels like it's hampering me.
>>747798737They better NOT give her red eyes and a dress in the new classic versions...
>>747745082they look up guides that tell them how to dodge each spell card, for the most part. A lot of people don't have the patience to learn how to dodge everything themselves
>>747799012Yup looking at your hitbox is generally not advised unless you are dealing with a pattern of dense slow-moving bullets from multiple sides.Reposting this handy guide
>they look up guides that tell them how to-You didn't 1cc the game.
I feel like raping a rabbit for no reason
>>747799543
>>747799037>Kazami Yuuka™ Classic Outfit DLC - $9.99
>>747799737I would collect all the Yuukas
>>747799737how much for the seihou version
>>747798693So autism, gotcha
>>747798451The gameplay actually feels different even for me, a shitter. You can find a list of all differences, but the very feel itself is different. The remake feels like an EOSD mod for a different 2hu game.
>>747800307Buy the 30th Anniversary Deluxe Collectors Edition for $100 and get it for free!
I will be genuinely upset if they change purple reimu, jumpsuit yuuka and red marisa in potential remakes
Which 2hu should I tell Potemki to NOT add into his game?
>>747802106Meira
>>747802106Reisen
>>747802235thankfully touhougaiden guy got us covered
>>747802354...
>>747802106Stop procrastinating with these silly questions and finish your game already, I'm tired of yukkuri garden slop
>>747802106which game?
2hus that would shave their legs?
Managed to get to Extra Phantom Flan without misses on ReimuA. Funny how this would give me NM Extra 1cc in OG, here it just gives me extra breathing room for final 3 cards. Kinda annoying but whatever.
>>747802898Superplayer
>>747797972Why can't someone make a modern controller with 6 face buttons and a sega style d-pad I fucking hate having to swap between controllers
sonion
>>747803189they have
i can't beat flandre, its over
>>747804817where are the triggers and the sticks?
Is it actually better to play the game in a small window?
>>747802898>No spoiler tagWhite hands wrote this post
>>747805195why are you min maxxing on the remake of a 2001 gameyour computer cannot be that bad
>>747805357It's not about the computer, but the field of vision.
>>747805312Explain
>people say it takes a lot of practice to 1CC>meanwhile people who never played touhou before do it in a couple days
>>747805923I have 9 hours of play time across both games and my current progress is stage 4 on normal, stage 5 if I use continues. I've already cleared ez modo and I nearly did it without continues on a second run. Still, a lot more to learn, I still reroll runs because of unforced errors due to my PoC greed.
>>747806195>due to my PoC greed.honestly a lot of the time it's being sloppy and moving around too frantically on stage 1 & 2 flying into a random bullet because of how boring easy those are compared to the rest that demand attention
>>747806948Early stage 2 is actually pretty difficult if you want to collect points because of all the garbage flying around.
>>747807049Cirno is not garbage
>>747807092The other garbage, the daffodils.
>>747807159dandelions*
>>747807159Daiyousei is not garbage either!
>>747806948>>747807049That's kind of a weird issue the remake introduced. You can't get full power up to this point even if you collect all the [P]'s so in the original you wouldn't try to go for PoC anyway so a stage hazard of random garbage was perfectly good challenge for early stage still. Here it kinda messes with the newbie player too much if he wired his brain to always go for PoC
>>747805923Such is life
>>747802778Kagerou
>>747790456It's not as egregious as the worst outfits.>>747790784See this is what I'm talking about, why the fuck would Satori be Alice? If anything she'd be one of Wonderland's denizens, she has the right level of smugness and ominous demeanor for it.
>>747782693I've been playing Double Spoiler and when you die in that game, a message pops up at the bottom telling you to play for at least an hour and to take a break.
I'm afraid of reinforcing bad habits.
>>747802106Hurry up with ADiA 2 before you get shipped off to the front again, pig.
I've got to master the cirno fight.
What's the actual reason the newer EoSD soundtrack sounds worse than the original?People always say it and are honest about it, but I've never seen it put exactly into concrete words what's wrong with it.
>>747814049Overuse of trumpets is one of the bigger factors, songs are inevitably going to sound like shit if you don't use a fitting instrumentation.
>>747814049see>>747793093
>>747813318>againH-huh?
>>747814180I get that it "sounds drunk", but that that doesn't really explain in detail. As in, what makes that sound drunk versus the original. Not having stronger trumpets or bassline doesn't feel like it's related to that specific point
>>747814049Less instrument variationSakuya's theme is the one that stands out the most for me, there are no gunshots, no piano, no electric guitars, just fucking ZUNpets
>>747793093The bassline sounds better in the new one imo but there is this weird echo-y thing going on that makes it weird to listen to. It may sound better in game for some reason.The new one sounds more jazzy and happy though.
>>747815460>The new one sounds more jazzy and happy though.That's another problem I have with the new OST, it's trying way too hard to make everything upbeat, like it's terrified of sounding slightly ominous.
>>747815357Sakuya's theme in the remake absolutely has electric guitars and piano, it's just EQ'd in such a way where the trumpets take center stage. I can still hear the guitars clearly but the piano definitely gets drowned out unless if you're paying close attention
>>747814049Its specifically the soundfont, which it does not fit like at all for this OST, the only song and character that actually benefits for it is meiling
So this is the power of normie streamers...
>>747817213why she looks the other one is whispering to her ear
>>747814049For me it feels like the instrument mix is off on a lot of tracks, like a different instrument and thus a different melody is taking the lead. It's especially bad in centennial festival for magical girls
>>747817213>91Jesus fucking christ
>>747814049I like it a lot, it's significantly different from the original and also more loyal to the MIDIs. I don't want to call it an improvement or anything, but really cool alternative version of the soundtrack.
>>747796148I've always hated playing most game genres on KB(&M), and I don't care to learn to like it at this point. For shmups specifically, all I need is a controller with a good dpad and a comfortable enough grip that holding down the shoot button doesn't start cramping the right hand during play. I've played a bunch of Touhou with a Pokken Pad, since it's basically a god-tier SNES controller with a really good dpad. B for shot, Y for bomb, and R for focus, and then there's plenty of buttons left for other shit if the specific game needs it (L for season release in HSiFS, for example).
>>747814049Sometimes certain instruments just overpower the rest of the song. Sakuya trumpets, everything in Remi's theme overpowering the piano in the middle. And I personally hate that chiptune sound he picked for UN Owen.
which 2hu has the best ass?
>>747818063Marisa
>>747818063Patchy
There should be a cow 2huI love cow print bikinis
>>747789414He did good work with Seihou Shuusou Gyoku, but like the other anon said, there is no proof that any of these AI PC-98 projects exist. It would be pretty cool to have all of the games playable on weaker systems for the fun of it, and I welcome different soundtrack options. Like the one Windows port someone did, replays would be nice, too, without all of the drawbacks of that version.
>>747817213Oh damn, that's three deaths more than my first Normal Challenge Mode run...
>>747817629Based pokkenbro
>>747818063Koakuma
>>747818063Yamame
>>747818160Urumi is the closest one we have so far.
>>747817213How does one die in Normal that many times? You have enough bombs especially in Challenge Mode to obliterate everything before you hit that many deaths.
>>747818287
>>747818063Raiko
>>747818489dont stick your dick in ebola
>>747818063
>>747819935>this is someone's ex gf
>>747820207She is a devious, unscrupulous person
>>747820207mine
>>747814885>what makes that sound drunk versus the originalNot a music autist, but how I'd describe it in extreme layman's terms (all regarding the part where the trumpets come in btw):In the new version:- It sounds slower- Some of the notes of the trumpets are a tiny bit delayed. I know it's because of the "style" but it sounds inferior here- The percussion is completely off sync.- There is too much reverb- There are too many instruments competing to be the melodyIn the old version:- The notes in the melody are perfectly lined up - The percussion is very obvious in its pattern- It's obvious the trumpet is the main melody and the piano is accompanying- At 2:02 that solo trumpet sounds good even though it's the same trumpet used everywhere, but it sounds "alone" here. Then the other one that comes in at 2:10 with the longer notes is very satisfying (in the game, this also around the time you defeat the mid-boss and those fairies start shooting massive bullets at you in which the music benefits)TL;DR: New too complex. Old simple and gives you what you want.
>>747744067What posessed Zun to fuck up the soundtrack so badly? He used to hit it out of the park in every title but the newer half dozen titles have maybe 3 tracks that I'd choose to listen to? There's nothing in EoSDemake that can compare or is more listenable than the original tracks.
>>747784556Hearing this blind after beating Alice was an experience. Great fight with extra credits that made the game feel even more like the end of an era, if the music room with every past song didn't already do that. We even got unused music back in the day.https://youtu.be/qb5NBfdDAlM
besides giving zun money, is there literally any reason to not just play the original game over this one?
>>747770657Why does this literal child have vaginal bones?
>>747821534The remake got a lot less input delay
>>747821534Classic release that actually works properly on modern PC's is bundled with the New Classic
>>747821534Cheevos, bro
>>747782208I'm disappointed they didn't go for a second GFW arc with Larva leading the Fairies to rebel against Yokai
>>747744067Really want badly to 1cc it, just to make sure I still got it. Got overtime at work, though.>>747745082First three stages are warm-up, you should not lose lives or hopefully not even use bombs there. You'll figure those out. Then try to get as far as you can using continues, beating Remilia with those on deck should not be hard.When you beat a stage, even using continues, you unlock it for practice. You need to use this option. Don't be afraid to use bombs to clear space in a stage, depending on shot type you may have to do this sometimes. For the bosses themselves, the game even has spell practice, which makes it somewhat easier to prepare for.General shmup stuff:Hold shift for focused movement.There are two types of projectiles in shmups, static projectiles and dynamic (targeted) ones. Static projectiles always take the same path, meaning they always have consistent safe spots every time you play the game. They may be dependent on where the boss is (Touhou bosses like to go left-right after the first barrage, to make dealing with static projectiles a bit less consistent)Dynamic projectiles change every playthrough depending on your position. Most typically those would be projectiles shot directly at where you are, but they can also be shot around you. Perhaps the most exemplary dynamic spellcard is this game's Misdirection (used by Sakuya as a midboss), which is easy if you stand still, but becomes fucked up if you try to chase Sakuya around the screen to deal damage. If you don't chase her, you won't capture the card and won't get an extra life, so pick your poison. Regardless, most dynamic projectiles can be manipulated consistently, so different spellcards have different patterns of movement that make the projectiles behave in different ways.
>>747822018Yuuka made cirno a nigger....
>>7478217352nd Great Fairy War where Cirno and Clownpiece fight each other to determine the strongest. Pick one of them as your main heroine and fight your way to the other. Extra boss is Reimu who's trying to figure out why the hell Cirno and Clownpiece are fighting each other.
>>747822018An example of static stage projectiles would be the books in Patchouli's stage, they and the lasers will always behave the same way, but the fairies near to them will shoot in respect to your own positioning.For dynamic projectiles aimed directly at you (like the wheel enemies in the stage who shoot threes of projectiles in quick succession), a very basic technique is called streaming, which basically means moving a very slight bit at a time. This way the projectile misses you narrowly (giving you graze, which is more points, which is extra lives). A downside of streaming is that if it takes too long, you will eventually hit a wall, which is why you may need a sudden jerky movement to create a hole in the pattern, and start streaming to the other side.
>>747818356from what I've seen normies suffer from lack of direction, there's no tutorial in this game, they don't know they can bomb or that they can slow down to see the hitbox
>>747797972Wut? Seriously? Is it even better than a keyboard?
SANAE IS A BIG FAT WHORE
>>747824169>the "big fat whore" in question:
>>747822402The dpad is considered very good.I use it for non-shmup 2d/arcade games too.You can also try a genuine SEGA genesis controller (harder to find these days) or retrobit clone.I definitely prefer the M30 over the keyboard for shmups.
>>747824301we know
>>747824502I chuckled
>>747824502>slop
>>747824301She is infact fat
>>747821371Isnt off sync or off beat percussion just called syncopation? That's perfectly normal and gives music a sort of bouncy or danceable feel. Even the older music did thatPersonally my issue is mainly the sound mixing
>Couldn't get my 1cc with Reimu B last night>Wake up and try again>Still can'tThis shot type is comically difficult to gain any traction with. You need to hug the bosses to do damage which is the most insane hyper player shit, and the bomb is also dog shit. I'm ACTUALLY miserable using this shot type.
>>747790050I used virtualmidisynth with the arachno soundfont which seems pretty similar to sc-55. Then, within the game you just have to switch from FM to MIDI in the options
>>747790946Why are touhou and danganronpa character designs so similar?
>>747827170Marisa A is that but worse because the shot spread is narrower. Idk how people deal with that shit
>>747827743In my experience, Marisa A does more consistent damage from farther away so you don't have to always be close. I could be wrong about that though.
Is Marisa B still broken and OP as fuck in the remake?
>>747814049Bad mixingRumia Cirno and Meiling losing all the kick their boss themes had, fucking up several stage theme making them sound super generic like stage 5 or extraPersussion being the same as FW The arranges being based off the MIDI rather than the WAV versions of the ostPersonally I've come to like some of the tracks but theres too many bad apples to give it an ok
stop being rude to sanaeshe's a good girl
>>747828034yes
>>747813920kino
>>747827170It does way more damage than Reimu A as long as you're just directly below the boss, you don't need to hug them
>>747829145nta but that is still too risky
>>747829145Reimu A feels like utter shit to play
>>747829418ReimuA is however a lot more stable to play for survival
>>747744067I got a Hard 1cc and beat Extra Phantom a few days ago. Tried Lunatic on Challenge mode just to see how I'd do and died 47 times, so I think I'm at my limit and should return to other Touhou games
>>747829903*47 times without bombing, to clarify, it would have been less had I bombed
>>747827170bro just play Marisa
>>747830664I'm autistic and I really just wanna see what the ending is with Reimu B. I'm never playing the shot type again after this shit.
>>747829505I only ever found ReimuA to be of any significant help for Stage 4's section with the (8?) waves of white enemy bullets trying to spam the shit out of you, coming from the top of the screen twice, then left, then right. On Hard she can afford to play sloppier than the rest in that section than the other shots. That aside I've never been sold on ReimuA. Fantasy Seal is the 2nd best bomb in the game, i guess.
>favorite poe streamer alkaizer larps being a 2hu enjoyer all the time>he finally plays this>game over on normalI really thought he was a real enjoyer... sad
>>747830926>favorite poe streamergoy detected
>>747829418>EoSD ReimuA feels like utter shit to play, anon saysPlease think of all the poor Th17 & 18 shottypes. It's not their fault the stage enemies all have more HP than feels comfortable...
>>747831207I stopped after playing 16. Did ZUN make the shot types even more gimmicky and gay, or what?
>>747830926>2hu enjoyer all the timeno one enjoys 2hu bro
>>747831302I do though
>>747831378you are just part of my imagination
>>747830846That section is pretty easy to learn though compared to the rest, but yeah the homing shots really shine at certain points throughout the seriesBut I never liked using homing shots because instead of making some sections easier it just solves them for you with no effort on your part which doesn't help you learn at all
>>747831246No, Reimu & Marisa are bog standard in both of these games. Anon is referring to both of these games' large amount of bulky fairies, which don't just melt if you stare at them.I don't really know why 17 is included, its shot type balance is honestly pretty fair, it's more about not picking Eagle (The actual gimmick of the game, boosts your unfocused shot & extends your Hyper upon picking up 3 or more eagle spirits, a UFO-esque gimmick) in that game. 18 is definitely one of the Maricucked games, she serves almost 0 purpose in the game, nothing to justify high mobility, worse damage than Sakuya, bad at stages, mediocre bomb (Sanae mogs) but it's not the only game in the series that cucks Marisa.
>>747831246WBaWC has some pretty buff stage enemies starting from the most basic big fairies that take a bit of shooting to kill. (It was even worse in the trial version.) It's mitigated a bit by the game's gimmick where you enter a powered-up mode for a few secs after collecting a couple beast spirits that show up like UFOs in 12. The shots themselves are perfectly normal in concept (Reimu with homing amulets unfocused & needles focused, Marisa with non-piercing lasers unfocused & magic missiles focused, Youmu playing like TD).UM also has strong stage enemies, and we can assume it's because the player is expected to grow in power throughout a run due to the ability card system. You can even start the game with a basic shot upgradecard if you've unlocked it once.That is to say, the game mechanics work and everything, but the shots can feel undertuned at times. EoSD/PCB homing Reimu feels absolutely fine in comparison.
>>747831207>It's not their fault the stage enemies all have more HP than feels comfortable...This is the biggest reason I think all the super modern games feel like shit to play, zako basically doesn't exist anymore. Everything just has way too much health
>almost 4% of people have beaten phantom flandreThat actually seems like a pretty impressive amount
>>747832979they probably do it on challenge mode
>>747833302Does it fucking work on challenge mode?
>>747833413Maybe
>>747833413Challenge Mode still needs to capture 6 spells and finish under 2 or below in the counter, which is the same as if you beat Flandre on your last life, but from there you can do as bad as you want against Extra Phantom's 3 spells, you won't get booted out or something. You've pretty much made it as soon as you've reached it.
>>747833413Yes
LMAO
Princess Undine makes me wanna take away ZUN's alcohol supply.
>>747830840Reimu is kinda weak in this Marisa just does it better, at least she feels way better to me
>>747832979you can do it on challenge, you have to play good to start the phantasm but then you can just die 20000 times
No more threads please. Take a break, don't let history repeat itself.
>>747833302>>747833572It's still a lame way to "beat" it but if that many people can cap 6 of flandre's spells I'm impressed enough
>>747834164How about no?
>>747834164>talks about history>doesn't post KeineDenied.
>>747834383Yeah because Akyuu CERTAINLY does not have anything related to history right
>>747834164You think the tranny that ruined it back then will stop? looooolThe autism means a life sentence, you get used to it or move on like everyone else did outside of releases
>>747834164There's a reason why fairy tales start with "Once upon a time", Akyuu.That's because it's a fairy tale to expect history to happen only once upon a time.
>>747834460absolutely notZUN said she's a whore
>>747834465>the trannyWho?
>>747833572>>747833578That's fucking retarded, how did they fuck up the achievements so badly in this release
>>747834602Too much beer
lol sorry to the people who tried to help me but it's been a week I don't think I'll ever understand Cranberry Trap.
>>747822402>memboardNo serious shmup player uses that shit, either d-pad or an arcade stick anything else is a meme
>>747834164This was a nice thread at least
>>747834518me
>>747834782Same but Marionette Doll which is just "random lol".
>>747834465They will be back (I meant the discord clique, not a person)
>>747834782Shotgun her and then work your way down slowly, nothing should wall you and by the time the second phase starts it should be over
I got all my clears on Switch 2 handheld mode (with the joystick)
>>747835046>Switch 2you didn't beat it
>>747834782Go up then down, then up
MAI, SATONO, ACTIVATE MOUSE MODE
The seeds for Touhou 20 were planted long, long ago...
>>747835830
>>747835830I liked the incident ball system
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>>747836017idgi
>>747835920Sanae is probably the funniest character in the series, she's so fucking silly, she's like a retarded boomer in the body of an escort
>>747836227Sanae is a two faced whore
>>747836312She only has one face, but still whore
>>747836367>>747836312do you think she would suck double the amount of cocks with two faces
>>747836443But of course
>>747836227
QUICK is there any way to remove a score from my save it says NIGGER and I want to show my replay to my mommy.
miss Reimu I turned another sanae discussion into her being a whore can I get a cookie now?
>>747836961good girl
>>747836961>>747837021Aunn is the best propaganda machine the hakurei can get
>>747836961if you feed cookies to dogs they die
>>747834164excuse me this is vhu culture
