Can somebody explain to me how Nintendo has been winning so hard lately while the competition keeps shooting themselves in the foot?
Nintendo's stock price has fallen by 80% in the last five years, they are struggling.
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>>747749206They make games for their console that plays games and don't jump on every retarded bandwagon like AIslop just to appease the investor parasites
all of gaming is struggling except for AI made ports and remakes and rockstar games next month
>>747749206they stay the fuck out of california
>>747749206Expect a boost because of everyone getting one before the price increase then it's gonna be a flat 2027.
>>747749934Yeah people will buy a switch 2 to not play GTA 6. Surely this will happen any day now LMAOInevitable boost incoming
>>747749206Stop spamming these threads, snoy
>>747749206How the hell is raping your beloved ips with a forced open world crap kirby game and a literal soulless cash grab unreal engine slop looking Zelda remake winning for Nintendo fans?
>>747749391Nigga it's up 7% from 5 years ago today.
>>747749206but they lost to nortubel tho
>>747749391>Nintendo's stock price has fallen by 80% in the last five years, they are struggling.Their stock is up more than 50% over the past 5 year you retarded fuck.Is lying and living in a delusion the only way you can cope?
I’m a proud tendie who supports everything Nintendo does!
>board is flooded with Wolverine memes>Quick! Make the Nintendo false flag thread!
>>747750287Not like any of this shit matters since investords are retards full on the ai hype train.No wonder they're not happy with Nintendo since they're openly against ai.
>>747749206the don't light money on fire
>>747749931>It's because the switch 2 has no gamesIt's true. Switch 2 has no games.
>>747750287It was $40 five years ago. 2023 was not five years ago.
>>747749206why do you post this thread with the same image every day
>>747750287Man, investors had some weird delusion about the Switch 2, were they expecting it to sell 100 million in a year or some nonsense like that?
>>747750690Tendie glazing.
>>747749391Nintendo's stock is up over the last 5 years
>>747750742the stock market is literally all speculation its not even worth paying attention too
>>747750742It's called a stock bubble. And of course 4chan troons do enjoy shitposting.
>>747750742The problem is it plays all the old games and even the new ones don't look much better, so all the devs are still making games for the Switch 1. It's PS5 Syndrome, Sony and MS both have it too. No games for the new system because it isn't better enough and because there are no games people don't buy it, or if they do they just play old games, devs see this and make games that work on both, vicious cycle of the snake eating its tail.Nintendo has a chance to stop this by announcing that there will be NO NEW SWITCH 1 GAMES ALLOWED ON THE SWITCH STORE AFTER 2026. THIS YEAR they need to say it.Then devs will release their games on the Switch 2 because the dev tools work on both and it's a zero effort proposition.
Why do we have this thread every day?
>>747750690false flagger can only do so much.
>>747750012Nobody will buy GTA6 after the leak.
>>747750690Snoys are running away from all the wolverine hate it's been getting
>snoys
>Sony makes woke DEI movies for non gamers and is killing ownership>Microsoft has no identity to speak of and is simply content having their foot in the door>Valve makes trash proprietary hardware for their free to access website where nobody owns anythingHmmmmm why is Nintendo who makes video games you can own for a video game console you own doing better. Really jogs the activated almonds.
>>747751147Nintendo failing has nothing to do with Sony, who is also failing. In fact Nintendo seems to be willingly going down the same paths Sony has.>but muh gaycards!LOL
>>747749206they are a video game company first and learned with the ps1 vs 64 and ps2 vs gc that what matters is a healthy variety of games of different genres and not the graphics rat race
>don't annouce games years ahead of release>instead go "we're going to release game x in 30-60 days">sell game x>?????>profit
>>747751331>Nintendo failingUh what?
>>747751023the sony cult is upset that nintendo isn't killing itself with anti-consumer bullshit and AI
>>747751350But Nintendo lost against PS1 and PS2 in only important metric that counts - profits and units.>>747751447Nintendo's like Disney, the stock is tanking and they're just pumping out the same old tired trademarked mascot bullshit after many decades, it's internal rot and ossification which can still be profitable because of nostalgia, but only if the company shrinks with the audience who still gives a shit.Disney and Nintendo are both tanking, for the exact same reasons. Goofy ass corny kiddie shit is out of style like these antique characters, and remake culture is getting boring as hell.
>>747749206>Competition is shooting themselves in the footIt's winning by proxy. If everyone hadn't been kneecapping themselves, Nintendo would be eating shit.>>747750287>Stonks go up in expectation for new console>Console releases>Stonks go brrrrr>Everyone realizes the console is actually dogshit and Nintendo has become anti-consumerist in the span of a few months since release of the Switch 2>stonks plummet>retards like (you) will jump in front of a train to point to that little jump in the last few months as a sign of recoveryI give them to the end of the year before that 50% bottoms out.
>>747751578Nintendo's new Zelda game is literally being made by jeets with AI.
>>747751653>he keeps trying this
>>747751592>GUYS THE LINE WENT DOWN THERE LITERALLY GOING THIRD PARTY IN TWO WEEKSdeath cult behavior
>>747751592>the stockLmao you are out of your element. The stock can tank on price of components alone, or because the yen dropped. You're pretty stupid if you ask me.
Y'know for a supposed tendie glazing thread, there seems to be a lot of usual posts complaining about Nintendo. Weird, isn't it?
>>747751712fags like >747751601 have been doing this same song and dance for over 100 years now
>>747751798>canAre you making this claim in particular?
>>747751884Yup.
>>747751601>If everyone hadn't been kneecapping themselves, Nintendo would be eating shit.What exactly is Nintendo doing wrong? They don't spend hundreds of millions into every single game they make, they don't fire hundreds of employees, they have one major game coming out once per month, they don't invest in AI slop, etc.They're doing great.
>>747751712USAID ran out so Nintendo's as fucked as any of the globohomo gayming concerns.
>>747751909Show your work then.
>>747749206Easy:1. kept their AA-game pipeline alive2. keeps budgets low (IIRC BotW/TotK were their most expensive games at like $250 million, so still cheaper than Spider-Man 2)3. Never believed in the Live Service hype, keeps couch-multiplayer aroundEverything else is just a consequence of that.1. results in multiple first party games released a year of okay-ish quality, which is enough. It also means staff is constantly busy and never without a project so no reason to fire any, resulting in experienced veteran developers.2. means 1. can happen because a handful of projects don't eat up all the budget3. means that we still get Singleplayer games for them. Just a game being Live Service also DRASTICALLY increases development complexity because now you also need a content roadmap several years planned out the moment a game releases and a complex server and microservices architecture. Not doing Live Service cuts out all that fat.
>>747752024Or else what I said isn't true? Not how this works. I won't be teaching you anything.
>>747751936anon.... all of that IS what they do wrong, because all those things make investors angry
>>747751601>>Everyone realizes the console is actually dogshit and Nintendo has become anti-consumerist in the span of a few months since release of the Switch 2>>stonks plummetIf they had really gone super anti-consumer stonks would have risen. Look at how much stocks rose for each company whenever price increases happen and when Sony announced killing physical. Investors WANT to hear about profit margins and line goes up. And profit margins and line goes up when with anti-consumer practices. They don't care about long-term, they care about short-term. It's why Xbox keeps on raising prices despite already being at the bottom of hardware sales.
>>747751331>seething this hard>"muh both sides"Acpedo thread
>>747752095You claimed that Nintendo's stocks are down because the price of components are up. All the companies are feeling the compoent crunch and are down, but that's not the exclusive reason.Nintendo's pushing old creaky shit and has been since forever ago. Many of their most popular Switch games are just old games under emulation. Disney started going down before Nintendo did, and for the same reason. All they have is remakes featuring tired old characters, no compelling new stuff at all.
>>747752148Doesn't look like it. It's a market wide tanking due to rising component prices.
>>747749206While Nintendo of America is exceptionally pozzed, Nintendo of Japan develops all of the games and is supremely anti-political. They are the only ones with the hand in making the games and they still have some baseline of quality; the games range from good to very good, and mostly finished, while all western devs and most eastern devs release their games while still in alpha and pozzed beyond belief. Capcom JP being the exception, again Capcom USA is hyper faggot-kiked out.
>>747752312I simply disagree. Sorry you weren't able to make me worry.
>>747752307All sides, not both. All three big gayming companies are failing now.>>747752404I don't mind if you worry or not. I don't care much about the stock prices either. But investors do and they will dictate what Nintendo does and the future direction of Nintendo.
>>747752029>3. Never believed in the Live Service hypeNintendo has a few toes dipped into mobile games they just didn't go all in on it
>>747750125You and I care about this, the great unwashed masses don't. Most gamers are yellow paint enjoyers now, gaming is not for people that want real quality anymore; it's a lowest common denominator feedbag like the Marvel films.
>>747752518I also disagree with that.
>>747749391Nintendo doesn’t give a fuck about investors and neither should anyone else. Fuck these cancerous parasites.
>>747749206I am noticing Nintendo fan are act very cultish lately. Anyone else notice?
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>>747749206They just make video games.The competition does their best to do anything but video games.
>>747752663Our confidence comes from winning while everyone else blasts their heads off with shotguns
>>747752312Dude, investors would love Nintendo to push old creaky shit lol. If Nintendo kept releasing ancient low budget and outdated games for Switch 1 while jacking up the price of online subscriptions and killing physical so that they can squeeze as much money out of the existing 155 million installbase as possible investors would go crazy over it. Also if they stopped making single player games and instead go for live service F2P games loaded up with MTX and gacha mechanics.
>>747752759Snoy
>>747752874I'm an idort who backs Nintendo's philosophy
>>747752148I'd rather piss off retarded investors than be like Sony tbqh
>>747752975You are Snoy
I don't really like Nintendo anymore, but they are a 140 year old company so they're certainly not stupid.
>>747750742That's how stock works: "Buy on rumor. Sell on news". It's the most basic of stock trading principles. Of course, retards like this >>747751601 try to use it for shitposting.People keep buying stock when the big thing is rumored. The price goes up. Then they sell for profit when the big thing is revealed. The money is made. The price drops. It happens literally every time with everything.Look up what will happen to Take Two's stock after GTA6 releases.
>>747752518>But investors do and they will dictate what Nintendo does and the future direction of Nintendo.That's one of the few good things about Nintendo. They tell their investors to fuck off more than the other companies. Does lower their stock a little and causes internet bums to try to use that as a gotcha acting like they're struggling but it means they do less short-sighted fad-chasing nonsense that are causing the other platforms to slowly bleed out even while those platforms put temporary bandages on themselves like mass layoffs and buying their own shares. And Nintendo's shareholders at the end of the day do understand deep down they're more stable than the other consoles platforms.
>>747749206it helps they still get games out every so often. That's more than you can say for other companies. Even if Smash and Mario have been missing for a decade, they at least have other franchises that are activeAt the end of the day that's the most important thing. You can't play games that never come out because they get cancelled after spending $100M and 5 years in development. And that's basically all Sony and Microsoft seem to have to point to now.
>>747753157I do have a PS4 and PSN
>>747752619That's fine dear.>>747752624Yes they do, they're legally compelled to. Nintendo might try to buy up its own stock on the downturn, it's been a very popular move lately, and if they do that they indeed don't have to give a fuck about the investors. But it was a risk they took when they went public.>>747752826>Dude, investors would love Nintendo to push old creaky shit lol.It's not JUST up to the investors, they have to react to the market.>If Nintendo kept releasing ancient low budget and outdated games for Switch 1They do that now with emulation.>while jacking up the price of online subscriptionsYou can buy subscriptions on Switch already. Some games are more or less pointless without 'em.>while jacking up the price of online subscriptionsThey do this too over time.>and killing physicalGaycards can't hold entire games and don't allow for the storage of patches on the card. They are a hoaxed version of physical.> so that they can squeeze as much money out of the existingThese companies which are publicly traded are required by law to do just this, it's required. Especially if revenue falls or the stock goes down or costs go up.The entire gatcha industry is predicated on this concept of always having whale devotees. And big gaming has seen this and started nickel and diming people like crazy too.>investors would go crazy over it.IFFFF that results in line going up, but only if.>Also if they stopped making single player games and instead go for live service F2P games loaded up with MTX and gacha mechanics.No system is immune to this though.>>747753232>They tell their investors to fuck off more than the other companies.I keep hearing this but I've checked. I have seen zero evidence of this.
>>747752826Yup. Last quarterly report Sony filled their presentation choke full of how much they love AI slop and their stock went up.When they announced they are killing physical media to turn BD factories into factories for lenses necessary for AI datacenters, their stock went up.
>>747751936Th-they hired that man... sh-shitch has no games...
>>747753317You are tendie Snoy
i cannot think of anything more fucking pathetic and sad than random anons arguing over the stocks of a company they have no stocks in on the fucking video game board.
>>747753731Sure you can call me that
>>747752624They're public. They care far more about their investors than they do (You).
>>747753490That's fine dear.
>>747749206>tendies: why does everyone hate our autistic aspie asses?! we just want to deepthroat a corporation in peace!>also tendies:
>>747753881If that were the case then Valve wouldn't have stripped ownership rights from their consumers without investor influence. Turns out anything can happen, good or bad, whether public or private.
>>747754020Nice try.
>>747754079Thanks.
>>747753753Frog posters are more pathetic and it's not really close either
This sad sack of shit keeps making the same thread over and over again. He keeps trying to change the image hash, slightly changing the words, but in the end it's the same autism.
PS5 Syndrome will kill tendo.
>>747749206The failure of the N64 and GCN made Nintendo realize when developing the Wii and DS that "AAA Graphics" were becoming a case of diminishing returns that they didn't have the capital to keep up with, since they're "just" a video game company. Sony and Microsoft could chase that dragon for a few more generations because they're gigantic globalized conglomerates larger than most countries, but they've found with the PS5 and SeriesX that even they can't improve graphics enough to make buying a new system worthwhile no matter how much of their billions they pour into it. Nintendo played the long game and it payed off.
>>747749206Here's a hot take. Firstly I'm a PC and Sony guy. I don't plan on being a switch 2 anytime soon(I'm waiting for a new non remake Zelda, or a new smash) Thta being said Nintendo (for how evil and sadistic they are as a corporation) honestly seem decent in comparison to the competition. Sony and Microsoft are shidding and Farding, and doing all kinda weirdo shit. The industry is in a really weird place, seems like they have no idea what they are actually doing. Even indie games have become boring and repetitive. Nintendo (by comparison) are always behind by a decade, not just in hardware but in business stragedy. Look at how they only started charging for online recently, and you know what? there's good things about that. Nintendo is consistent, you know what you're getting. I like that.
>>747754380What causes this?
They make fun games and knew the importance of exclusivity
>>747754474Nintendo Derrangement Syndrome
>>747754401>The failure of the N64 and GCN made Nintendo realize when developing the Wii and DS that "AAA Graphics" were becoming a case of diminishing returns that they didn't have the capital to keep up with, since they're "just" a video game company.Finally somebody who knows what's going on. Graphics are quite good enough especially given the nature of Nintendo's mainstays - retro characters from 40+ years ago.
>>747754380this site is so fucking dead
>>747754495Their console also costs half of what their competitors costs and has identical graphics and performance for 99% of all released titles, only looking worse for the biggest of big AAA titles (of which the Switch 1/2 downports are barely perceptible).
>>747754770It's been like this for over a decadeThe same autists repeat the same threads that got replies yesterday
All consoles are shitting themselves and all console corporations are scummy as fuck. Consoletroons are too retarded to realize they need to start banding together to defend their cancer or PC is going to continue to rectally ragnarok them.
>>747754401There are people who still don't understand that Nintendo as a game developer who always outsourced hardware manufacturing needed to split off from Microsoft and Sony, two of the largest tech manufacturing giants on earth, because Nintendo simply couldn't keep up with their tech race. People act as if these three companies are identical in capabilities.
>>747754816Funny thing is when anons can't post because the board goes down, these bait threads continue to be shat out like clockwork even with stimulating, simulating replies.
>>747753753No one would post about stocks if retards didn't post them to cry about Nintendo.I boughted the dip and made $2000
>>747749206/Thread
>>747754843>me when I'm a PC vegan and I see a thread about something that isn't a PC
>>747749206i'll explain in order-xbox has been fucking dead-sony starts going downhill-switch 2 sucks and no one wants one-sony does EVERY MOVE POSSIBLE to sabotage itself-people start looking at switch 2, and then they announce zelda remake. boomers buy the console overnightnintendo actually might get lucky this gen and recover hard.xbox's new president is putting in effort, but this gen is done for them. xbox helix will probably take off with a strong start.sony is fucked until gta 6. if people are disappointed with gta6, they're screwed possibly for years.
>>747754897Nintendo backstabbed Sony and they split up. Then they backstabbed Philips, and they split up too. Then they had no optical drive and waited until Gamecube to put in an optical drive, which they designed to get around most of the patents Sony and Philips had on CD and DVD technology by doing things like having the laser start in the wrong place and spinning the wrong way, thus screwing both companies again.Nintendo has to go down their own path.
>>747754987PC rapes you and Nintendo and Sony, I'm so sorry.
>>747754843Mobile gaming is already bigger than all console gaming combined. It's why Nintendo switched to selling phones. Why not just sell a Nintendo phone that's a not-phone so it's safe for kids? Safe for kids has always been a Nintendo cornerstone.
>>747755063>backstabbedRevisionist history.
>>747754843>>747755102PC gaming is never going to kill consoles, vegan. You need to let that shit go
I need a comfy switch 2 game. I’m down to try my first non-FF JRPG but it must not be weeb shit. Any recommendations?
>>747755204Hmm, it already is though.
>>747755102I would rather own my media than own nothing so I'll continue to use consoles. A PC sidecar is nice for my ebay store and fantasy league however.
>winning>isn't even in the top10
>>747755035>people laugh at snoys for wanting gay shit like realistic graphics and more storytelling>tendies follow suit and now demand the same things>we're supposed to consider this a good thing
>>747755269I'm talking about real life, not the things that only happen in your head
>>747755176Because Nintendo wants absolute control. They won't sell a phone or make a launcher on pc unless they control everything about the device so they can screw their users if they do a nintendo no-no.
>>747755176Because mobile fags don't play console games.
>>747755269No. PC as it exists currently is a failure state when compared to consoles. If Sony ends up as nothing other than a digital storefront and occasionally making some hardware and some games and maybe a controller it would be seen as an absolute failure of Playstation brand. That's every PC brand in a nutshell and there's a reason you're forced to ape PC in general and not any specific brand because individually it's weak as hell with zero reason for fandon or support.
>>747755304Haha, too bad you don't>Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Nintendo grants you a non-exclusive, revocable license to use the Software solely on the Console for your personal, non-commercial use. For clarity, the Software is licensed, not sold, to you, and you may not make use of the Software except as expressly authorized by this Agreement. Without limitation, you agree that you may not (a) publish, copy, modify, reverse engineer, lease, rent, decompile, disassemble, distribute, offer for sale, or create derivative works of any portion of the Software; (b) bypass, modify, decrypt, defeat, tamper with, or otherwise circumvent any of the functions or protections of the Console or the Software, including through the use of any hardware or software that would cause the Console or the Software to operate with any unauthorized, illegal, or pirated software or hardware; (c) reinstall any prior version of the Software on the Console or otherwise obtain or install any version of the Software other than through distribution methods provided by Nintendo; (d) install or use any Software which Nintendo identifies as an unauthorized copy, or from which one or more unauthorized copies have been made; or (e) exploit the Software in any manner other than to use it with the Console in accordance with its documentation and intended use. Content obtained through the use of an unauthorized device, or through the unauthorized modification of the Console or the Software, may be removed. You agree not to access or use the Console or the Software in an unauthorized or unlawful manner or to access the consoles, devices, accounts, or data of others (including Nintendo) without their (or our) consent. You acknowledge that if you fail to comply with the foregoing restrictions Nintendo may render the Console and/or the Software permanently unusable in whole or in part.
>>747755513see>>747755371
>hourly macaco falseflagging cope n seethe thread -259502 karma to ziony btw
>>747755513What's wrong with PC though? You can clamor all you want about muh ownership, but on consoles I'm not even allowed to modify my hardware or software. There's DRM and chains everywhere. What kind of freedom is that?
>>747755198Not at all. Nintendo didn't want to pay for the CD licensing (you had to pay to commercially release a CD) to Sony and Philips, the sole patent holders for the entire series of the CD IP including enhanced CD and CD-ROM. Nintendo tried to negotiate out of this at the last second with Sony, but Philips wouldn't OK it because they were still trying to sell CDi. So then Sony and Nintendo parted ways on Playstation, and Nintendo approached Philips (no shit) and tried to negotiate a deal but Sony, recently backstabbed by Nintendo, said no too.That's why no Nintendo will ever have Dolby anything because Philips bought a big part of Dolby a long time ago but after this all happened.
>>747749934Switch 1 owners will.upgradeMario 2027Smash 2027Majoras Mask 2028Animal Crossing 2028Starfox 2029You have no idea how much sales will pick up once thesestart dropping. Factor in escapism from WW3 and its a goldmine
>>747755035>nintendo actually might get lucky this gen and recover hard.It's much more likely consoles as a business model are dealt irrevocable damage and their death accelerates. It's going to be even more brutal next gen, if they can even manage one.
>>747755635>What's wrong with PC though?Nothing. PCs are amazing for my fulfilling lifestyle. For video games? Almost never needed anymore. Most steam users hail from russia and china. I am white and first world English speaking so I am not their demographic.
>>747753490>It's not JUST up to the investors, they have to react to the market.You are talking specifically about investors. Investors have priorities that are near the opposite of consumers. Investors are inherently completely for corporate interests. Corporate interests that means trying to gouge as much money from the consumer.>They do that now with emulation.And they're still trying to move forward to the next generation unlike PS and Xbox that stayed on the old generation for half a decade. Also released even more remasters/remasterakes than Nintendo.>You can buy subscriptions on Switch already. Some games are more or less pointless without 'em.I said jacking up the prices.>They do this too over time.They're rank amateurs at this. Look at how much Sony and Microsoft have increased within the past year and how much more expensive they already compared to Nintendo.>Gaycards can't hold entire games and don't allow for the storage of patches on the card. They are a hoaxed version of physical.They have announced all their 1st party games will be physical and even gaycards can be resold unlike digital only. They still include a physical reader on all their consoles. >These companies which are publicly traded are required by law to do just this, it's required. Especially if revenue falls or the stock goes down or costs go up.The entire gatcha industry is predicated on this concept of always having whale devotees. And big gaming has seen this and started nickel and diming people like crazy too.So then why are you whining about creaky old shit? Milking people on creaky old shit squeezes money.>IFFFF that results in line going up, but only if.Wrong, just the hypothetical. Look at how stocks rose for Sony after the physical killing announcement and their price increase announcements even before the consequences of them were already felt. Look at how Xbox increases prices to appease the investors even when their line continues to shrink.
>>747755947Consoles are terrible for video games, though. You're stuck in a closed garden with no freedom.
>>747755742>at the last secondIt's true there are existing playable Nintendo Playstation pre-production prototypes which prove it lol.
>>747755823>there are like a half dozen games coming by... 2029!>we extra pinky swear
>Terrariafag arguing about PC in a thread that has nothing to do with PC againWhat's wrong? mom won't let you use the computer?
>>747756084One was found because it had been sent to a studio which was going to make a Nintendo Playstation game, famously, and famously the only other surviving example was hidden in Ken Kutaragi's closet at his house lol.
>>747756084Most were developed behind Nintendo's back which sparked innitial outrage by Nintendo. Sony was planning on Nintendo bankrolling their entey inti gaming and nintendo correctly backed out. After Nintendo backed out Sony approached Sega with the same deal and they told them to fuck off as well.
>>747756227You want to take nintendick in your butt on the PC board, PC is going to laugh at you.
>tendies keeps making falseflag threads and shitting on PC for no reasonThe new Zelda demake must be really bad for them to be this desperate.
>>747756049Only freedom that concerns me is freedom from PC hackers and freedom to own my gaming hardware and gaming media. Anyway I prefer walls around my gardens since I can always remove them if I don't like the benefits they provide.
>>747756458You own nothing, and nice contradiction.
How is acbald always in these threads, unless....
>>747756458>Anyway I prefer walls around my gardens since I can always remove them if I don't like the benefits they provide.You can't do that on Switch 2 though.>Only freedom that concerns me is freedom from PC hackersIf you could make your own servers, you'd already have that.>freedom to own my gaming hardware and gaming media. You don't own jack squat.
>>747756286>Most were developed behind Nintendo's backDude this is just crazy talk. It was a years long significant project to get a CD console like everybody else was brewing up AFTER the multimedia craze already took over PC gaming, AND the media cost a dollar to print AND package in a jewel case and only a couple cents more in a longer or bigger box versus who knows (depends on semiconductor market) for a cart.It was not some secret project.Sony already had the 3D Playstation before they even started talking to Nintendo in the form of a titler which Ken Kutaragi himself invented with a small team and which had already revolutionized broadcast and video graphics. They weren't looking to bring it to market until Nintendo backstabbed them and they decided to go full 3D because the time and markets were ripe for it.Then they were like "fuck it put this $250,000 machine from the mid-'80s on a chip and play video games on it because why not" and that was that. Playstation was already invented and ready to go once they did this.
>>747755742There was no legalised contractual agreement. They were still in roundtable talks. Backstabbing isn't the correct word. Nintendo simply made the best decision for their brand which came at Sony's expense.
>>747756385PC board is at /g/, not /v/. PC gaming will never replace consoles btw
>>747756530Yes, we need to shit on every single tendiepost because it's obviously acbald falseflagging. Call them out for the retardation that they represent.
>>747756523>You own nothingI don't even have to agree or disagree since observable reality dictates that I do.
>>747753490>No system is immune to this though.The point is Nintendo has not done this while the other platforms have. And those other platforms have their investors slurping those up.>I keep hearing this but I've checked. I have seen zero evidence of this.You can just see by how long they delayed having a price increase and how small it is compared to every other platform, including Valve's.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2026-05-06/nintendo-switch-2-price-hike-in-spotlight-ahead-of-earnings"With shares on their worst streak in a decade, investors signal displeasureSince the launch of its Switch 2 in June, Nintendo has been on a hot streak of successful game releases, punctuated with popular theme park attractions and another winning cinema release last month. It should be riding high, yet its Tokyo-traded shares are on their worst run in a decade.The contradiction, and the debate in investor circles, centers on the price of the Switch 2 console itself. Many now believe that Nintendo simply must raise prices when it reports earnings this Friday, to guard against escalating costs and appease an anxious investor community. Others worry about the impact on demand, though that may be short-lived, unlike the share price pressure.
>xbox in shambles, closing studios left and right, betting the farm on bethesda not fucking up TES6>sony burning money on failed live service games over and over>nintendo almost entirely focused on ports for the second generation in a row>PCs more expensive than evergrim...
>>747756594>You can't do that on Switch 2 though.No worries on my end. >If you could make your own servers, you'd already have thatOfficial > unofficial >You don't own jack squat.Observable reality disagrees.
>>747753490"The Kyoto-based firm has managed only temporary reprieves. It scored a global hit with the March release of Pokémon Pokopia and in April delivered a winner with The Super Mario Galaxy Movie. Unlike Tokyo rival Sony, whose track record has as many misses as hits, Nintendo is on an enviable run of successful releases. Data from industry trackers Famitsu and Circana also indicate that the Switch 2 continues to sell faster than any other home games machine in history.So why has Nintendo sunk so much lower than Sony? The Tokyo company hasn't been shy about raising PlayStation 5 prices.Nintendo investors are concerned that the $450 Switch 2 is deeply unprofitable. US tech giants are buying up the world's supply of key components like memory, while trade disruptions from the Middle East war are affecting the cost of shipping and even basic materials like plastics. Japanese peers like Capcom, Koei Tecmo and indeed Sony are also under pressure.All eyes now turn to Friday's earnings briefing to see if Nintendo President Shuntaro Furukawa addresses the Switch 2's pricing strategy. Hideki Yasuda, an analyst at Toyo Research Advice, believes the stock will continue to struggle until the price is adjusted.The choice is stark: permit the shares to continue their decline by holding the Switch 2 price firm and hoping for a major software hit to change the narrative, or increase the price to steady the ship and risk alienating customers at a sensitive time in the product's life cycle.If a hike occurs, the subsequent question is the magnitude. The timing seems urgent, given that Nintendo is currently selling the hardware at a loss."
>>747756607Consoles are a tiny minority on this board PC dominates. Consoles can't even access this site, you need a real device that isn't a locked down prison to do it. Just how it is, pump up those rookie numbers.
>>747756603If sony was that invested then they should have offered Nintendo a legally binding contract
>>747756682Until the real owner says you don't if you dare to actually try to own it.
>>747756809I'd rather be a minority if the majority is PC vegans. They're the religious nationalists of gaming fandom.
>>747756809pokemon has a dedicated board, wheres the PC board on 4chan then fag?
>>747756764>No worries on my end. You just said that you could?>Official > unofficial what makes you say that? Official servers don't let you have your own maps or game modes. >Observable reality disagrees.Observable reality dictates that I can modify my games, access the core files, and play them over the course of 25 years without needing to constantly rebuy the games, as they are not locked to specific hardware or software. You supposedly own your physical games, but your SNES cart does not work with your Switch or Switch 2. Your gamecube disks don't work with them either. Your digital purchases from the WiiU and 3DS haven't transferred to the Switch. That's very curious for media you supposedly own.
>>747756986/g/ and /v//
>>747756874Actually I will continue to own it even if its non functioning. And regardless, that will never happen to me because1. I'm not violating their terms2. If/when I do violate their terms it will be in complete privacy so they will never know.I'm very smart so stop assuming the worst will happen to me.
>>747756927Shame. Imagine all the shitposting a legion of you braindead autists could do instead of being one miserable no-lifer.
>>747757032/g/ - technology/v/ - video gamesI don't see anything about these boards being PC only
>>747757076Falseflagging acbald
>>747756987>You just said that you could?I don't crack fresh hardware even if crackable anyway.>what makes you say that?Enjoyment of playing with unfiltered unregulated masses of the general populace rather than a gatekept tranny discord by a tyrant discord mod (You)>Observable reality dictates that I can modify my games, access the core files, and play them over the course of 25 years without needing to constantly rebuy the games, as they are not locked to specific hardware or software.Same. I have a computer as well since I'm an idort.
>>747756605>There was no legalised contractual agreement.Sometimes there isn't, but the fact is Philips was never going to let Nintendo make a CD system to compete with CDi (at least in their eyes) without paying the CD royalty fee even if Nintendo and Sony said "pretty please" Philips wouldn't allow it. Ultimately they should have paid the modest license fee.>>747756840What contract? It wasn't up to Sony alone, Philips also owned the CD format jointly with Sony and Philips already had a CD console. They weren't going to let Nintendo use the format for free without paying the license fee like every other company was already planning to do.That's retarded.Anyway Nintendo Playstation wasn't even 3D. Ken just created 3D Playstation out of a revolutionary broacast effects unit he had previously created. It wasn't created to be a games machine but Ken personally made it into one to buttfuck Nintendo at the advent of 3D.
>>747757132No life is a bit misleading. 98% of my time spent on 4chan is while I'm multasking at my job which is my fulfilling career profession.
>>747749206This nigga sucking corporate cock.
>>747757246>I don't crack fresh hardware even if crackable anyway.If you're physically incapable of it, then don't say that you can.>Enjoyment of playing with unfiltered unregulated masses of the general populace You mean the unwashed normalfag masses. >Same. I have a computer as well since I'm an idort.no, you don't. You've demonstrated that you don't know a single thing about PC.
The wii U was the best thing to happen to Nintendo. They got too cocky after the wii and DS and needed a good humbling.
>>747757354>Ultimately they should have paid the modest license fee.Why? They did well without it. They literally got by never needing to pay sony any royalties on CDROM. >What contract?That's the point? What backstabbing? There was no cotnracrual agreement, therefore rhere was no backstabbing. Nintendo simply decided to not partner with sony.
Atari paid for their CD license. 3DO paid for their CD license. Amiga paid for their CD license. NEC paid. Sega paid.Why shouldn't Nintendo pay? They weren't Sony or Philips, for whom it was free, being the inventors. It wasn't even that much lol.
>>747749391Reminder sony's stocks skyrocketed when they announced you would own nothing because they would kill BDs, shareholders are anti-consumer.
>>747757582>They did well without it.By what measure? Compared to maybe Sony not making the Playstation? No.>They tell their investors to fuck off more than the other companies.I disagree, you can backstab somebody without a written agreement. Sony and Nintendo were already partnered and Nintendo tried to flip the script at the last minute. That's a clear backstab and Nintendo acted shamefully and created a powerful enemy. The inventor and CEO of Playstation.
>>747757374>If you're physically incapable of it, then don't say that you can.I will say that I can because I will be able to in the future. Get used to me saying this. >You mean the unwashed normalfag masses.Sure.>no, you don't. You've demonstrated that you don't know a single thing about PC.I disagree. Otherwise you would be all over a quote I said that was wrong, but you aren't because you can't find anything wrong with anything that I say. That's why you resort to outright lying to me on an almost hourly basis.
>>747757571Honestly agree. Sony needs to feel this as well. I wanted Xbox to also feel this during 2020 and was rooting for them until 2024 but then they started shutting down their best studios and continued to raise prices despite being deep in last place and now I just think they're a lost cause. Stuff like acquiring Kojima just feel like a slight muscle spasm of someone already on their deathbed. Would be very pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong though.
>>747757583>Why shouldn't Nintendo pay?Because Nintendo profitted wildly using carts over CDs and got 2nd place beating out three other CD rom using platforms with their ((((((inferior)))))) carts.
>>747757707>By what measure?Profits>Nintendo tried to flip the script at the last minute.Nintendo DID flip the script at the last minute because Sony was cocky and didn't offer up a contract. Next time put your money where your mouth is.
>>747757761>I will say that I can because I will be able to in the future.But why not now? I can modify my games and thus have true ownership and freedom NOW. You are claiming that you'll have that at some nebulous point in the future.>I disagree. Otherwise you would be all over a quote I said that was wrong,I am all over your lies. Like when you claim that you don't own PC games. by your own logic, PC games are the only things you can own.>can sell them to friends>can lend them to friends>can play them anytime you want, without online DRM verification (applies for 99% of games)>can mod them>can back them up>aren't constantly being made outdated by idiotic restrictions and planned obsolescence (like consoles changing formats to make you rebuy games)What do consoles offer?
the switch 2 is finding its feet and getting a consistent stream of pretty good gamesit opened up a little hollow, with mario kart world being very evidently unfinished and rounded off to meet the launch of the console
>>747757898>Nintendo profitted wildly using cartsMostly, but when semiconductor crunches hit like when that big earthquake hit Taiwan, back in like I forget, '89 or '91 or somewhere in there, prices on all chips just doubled overnight and carts went from profitable, to unprofitable.CD was the future at that time, huge huge storage for a dollar ready to display at retail.>>747758032>Nintendo DID flip the script at the last minute because Sony was cocky and didn't offer up a contract.Sony couldn't offer Nintendo a license to use CD for free not because they "wouldn't," but because they couldn't, because it wasn't solely up to Sony. Philips already had CDi at that moment, on the shelf, and other companies had CD consoles they were developing and all (except Philips of course) paid their licensing fees.Nintendo thought they were too special to have to pay, unlike Sega, NEC, Atari, many others now forgotten. They were wrong and thus, the Playstation was created especially to buttfuck Nintendo.
>>747758032Sweatie, Sony has blown Nintendo away for profits since Playstation. It's a much bigger company and it ate Nintendo's lunch.
>>747758096>But why not now?Don't feel like it> I can modify my games and thus have true ownership and freedom NOW.Ah okay. The lying game. I can modify my Switch 2 NOW. And it's DRM free, and has a disc drive to run my Wik and Gamecube games natively. Why can't you do this? My god you're boring. How is lying fun for you?
>>747757571Applies to the N64 and the Gamecube too.Third parties backstabbed them hard during that era and Nintendo learned the hard way that they can only rely on their own ips to sell.Now Sony is waiting for GTA VI to save them while Nintendo just chills with their own releases.
Why wouldn't Nintendo offer Sony / Philips, joint exclusive holders of the CD IP, a contract? Sega did. NEC did. SNK did. Amiga did. Atari did. 3DO did. Others...Why was Nintendo so cocky? What made them more special than all these other companies put together? They were all willing to pay. To use the CD format you had to pay only... ANOTHER DOLLAR per unit! lol.
>>747758327>Don't feel like itMore like you can't.>Ah okay. The lying game. I can modify my Switch 2 NOW. And it's DRM freeWait, you said this as an intentional lie, but earlier you legitimately claimed to be able to do so. Which is it?
>>747758323>Sweatie, Sony has blown Nintendo away for profits since Playstation.Sweetie, no. They almost never do. >and it ate Nintendo's lunch.Sacrifices needed to be made. Sony struck gold on CD royalties which allowed them to swallow up 3rd parties and coast for 2 generations. Problem is the royalties ended, Sony was eventually forced to try. And now we have Wokeny while Nintendo (even Microsoft with Kojima lmao) eats their lunch.
>>747758563Get a clue Doug. We're done speaking now. Try being an honest intellectual and you might get my attention again.
>>747758458>Third parties backstabbed themHow? Final Fantasy VII would have cost $1000 on the Nintendo 64 in cartridge format.Sony made the superior MACHINE and BUTTFUCKED Nintendo. Nintendo was cocky and thought they were still the only platform in the world to publish games on, and still insisted on the expensive cartridge format and high royalties and exclusivity on manufacturing cartridges.They were also stingy with dev kits. Sony was very free with them. They got more devs onboard, small studios could afford it.
>>747758682>completely avoids the argument and just shitpostsSpoken like a true tendie, who lies about being an idort.
Why is ACbaldfaggot going to bat for Sony? He told me he's not a snoy. Could it be he's lying and worshipped sony?
>>747758710>How? Final Fantasy VII would have cost $1000 on the Nintendo 64 in cartridge format.You were supposed to buy the add-on (which most people never even heard of except on Youtube videos) for N64 which allowed it to play actually big games or something idc.
>>747757571First Wii was fine how it was too. Just needed more good games.
>>747758257>Nintendo thought they were too special to have to payThey we're.>They were wrongAsk Sega, Atari, NEC, and 3DO how well they're doing in 2026. >They were wrong and thus, the Playstation was created especially to buttfuck NintendoActually Sony was entering the market regardless of what Nintendo decided which is why they aporoached Sega next, got told to fuck off, and then made their own. Offer a contract next time. Biggest mistake of Sony's existence.
>>747758769Sure.
>>747758769>argue in bad faith>expects others to take you seriouslyGet a job and maybe you'll get yourself a real gaming PC instead of being stuck with a potato that can only run terraria
>>747759140>STOP PLAYING GOOD GAMES RIGHT NOW>THEY DON'T HAVE REALISTIC GRAPHICS, THAT MAKES THEM BADSpoken like a true snoy.
>>747758552>Why wouldn't Nintendo offer Sony / Philips, joint exclusive holders of the CD IP, a contract?Are you retarded, the key holder is Sony/Phillips. They had the royalties, they're the ones who lost on not getting Nintendo to sign.
>>747759267>tendie>snoyMake up your mind, brokie vegan
>>747749206Learned from the master.
>>747759061>They we're.No, because the deal fell through. They said "we don't want to pay" and that ended the long partnership with Sony, causing Ken, who invented the Nintendo Playstation, to buttfuck Nintendo to this day.>Ask Sega, Atari, NEC, and 3DO how well they're doing in 2026. None of them had problems because they used the CD format instead of cartridges.>Actually Sony was entering the market regardless of what Nintendo decidedNo, they partnered with Nintendo to enter the market, then Nintendo fucked Ken Kutaragi personally and deeply and he made it his life's work to eat their lunch. And he's done great.>which is why they aporoached Sega nextAnd Philips too! Don't remember if that was before or after they went to Sega. But they realized they were fucked without a CD console and the delay actually helped them a tiny bit. Non-3D CD based consoles were garbage. Nintendo Playstation would have barely been better than say CD32x.>Offer a contract next time. You're intentionally trying to misunderstand. They weren't negotiating with Sony alone, but Philips too and they didn't want to pay because unlike all the other companies, including Sega who they approached as you say, were already paying the royalties, which were on better terms than Nintendo was offering with carts in any event.It wasn't up to Sony to give away Philips's interest in their joint format for free. There was no contract to be offered and there will never, ever, ever BE a "next time," that's why Playstation was invented.>>747759365Philips already had a console and the only barrier Nintendo faced, was that Nintendo was cocky and thought that unlike Sega and NEC and 3DO and Atari and SNK and all the rest, that they should be able to ship a CD based console without even paying the licensing fee.
>>747758610Holy shit THANK you, you don't know how much I could've used this lol
>>747759441What's the difference? Neither one likes video games.
>>747749206can you explain to me why do we have the "HOW IS NINTENDO WINNIG SO HARD LATELY AM I RIGHT FELLAS" threads daily now? Are Famitsu ones banned now or what?
Bandai Pippin - they even paid the royalty to Sony / Philips for using the CD format.They did get Zelda lol.
>>747749206Console war thread, how fucking onions is this shit?
>>747758710And now cartridges have outlasted discs, who's raughing now?
>>747759749it's basedall the consoles are going to shit all at oncegpu $7999gayming itself is ending and that's a good thing lol
>>747759715Nah, they still spam famitsu threads. Now tendies want more shitpost threads on the board. Be thankfuly this isn't another pedo thread. Those have exploded in popularity thanks to Zelda.
>>747759613Unlike PC niggers, snoys and tendies (mostly tendies) play video games. Vegans never get passed the game's title screen
>>747755823My Metroid fag friend swore he wouldn't buy a Switch 2 and is already planning to crack his wallet open now that Ravenous has a trailer. 3D Mario and the first Pokemon game not to look like sludge will destroy any notion of no one wanting a Switch 2.
>>747759841>snoys and tendies (mostly tendies) play video games.Really? The influx of porn and console war threads here would beg to differ.
>>747759715Janny must have told him to calm down after the previous famitsu thread was full of goreposting
>>747750975Tomadatchi life is the last Nintendo release for the Switch 1. Nintendo made it clear Switch 1 support would end soon and did cross gen for a year.
>>747759838The guy that spams Famitsu always puts the wrong numbers so I think it's safe to say he ain't a Nintendo fan lol
>>747755035>-switch 2 sucks and no one wants one>-sony does EVERY MOVE POSSIBLE to sabotage itself>-people start looking at switch 2It's been the fastest selling console of all time way before Sony started going full retard.
>>747759365>key holder is Sony/Phillipstwo different companies on the opposite sides of the globe who teamed up for a global formatone of which had a cd-based console alreadythere is no "they," Sony was teaming up to make a competitor to the CDi with Nintendo and that was fine by Philips as long as Nintendo paid their CD royaltiesit's very very simple to understand>>747759993>last Nintendo releasehave to cut off third parties too
>>747759508Actually Nintendo has been buttfucking Sony for almost 20 years now.
>>747759441Tendiesnoy, you're all the same.
