Even this once legendary and influential franchise has fallen. They couldn't even not use AI for the most iconic game in the series. It's over.
The reason nobody noticed is because no touhou fan actually plays the games.
>>747857093NOOOOOOOOOOO ZUN HAS BETRAYED US
>>747857093Thanks, I am not buying it then. Fuck AI.
I fucking knew it. Damn>>747857156Everyone noticed even japs which is why they had to answer.
>>747857208
Man to see Touhou die like this.
>>747857251should have a map flag too
Tohoufags are Indian now KWAB
>>747857208It's bundled with the original. You can play that one.
>>747857093The real problem is this is undisclosed on the Steam page.
>>747857916Always have been.
And after they change it, surprise surprise, the people complaining about it still won't buy the game so what is the point?
>>747858036exactly, and the luddites bitching about the automobile replacing their lousy buggies make up such a small number, normalfags don't care
>>747857093Old news. Touhou has been slop since 19.
>>747857093>muh AIStill pissed you can't prompt yourself a sex change huh?
Touslop was never good
>>747857945Surely the original wasn't improved with AI sloppa too, right?
why is AI bad if the game is good?
>>747858215Apart from the censored star of David, all assets should be the original ones.
>>747857093Give one good reason they shouldn't have used AI here
please wait warmly, chatgpt is preparing~
>>747857093OH NO NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH
>>747857093reeee
>>747858225Because IT'S NOTICEABLE. The fact that people are able to tell that something is made with AI goes to show that the quality delivered by it is subpar.
>>747857916jeets and trannies linked up!?
>>747858361false equivalence
>>747857093Zun was so vocal about le tech and le politics at one time and constantly referenced this shit in the new manga chapters, did he touched ai yet?
>>747858361Being distinct is not an indication of something's quality
I'm both pro-AI and pro-piracy/emulation. Both /v/ and japanese people are angry at me. At the end of the day, it's all just imaginary 1's and 0's inside your computer and I refuse to get mad over such trivial things.
>>747857093>have most the work done for you>still slop it upkek
>>747858593Nobody thinks about you at all, anon.
>>747858574People would give a lot fewer fucks if not for the glaring errors.
>>747858571Yeah Sumireko gooned too hard to AI in one of the CoLA chapters and accidentally made SumiGPT which would randomly materialise in Gensokyo for short periods of time.
>>747857093I will buy the game anyways. Seems like to me it's used for Automating certain tasks. So it does not matter.
>>747857251>im such a nazi>that's why i have tattooed God's cursed people's (jews) companies
>>747858036So you're telling me these people have principles?Based>y-you don't buy games anywayI bought some older touhou games even though I played pirated versions, not gonna pay for AI though
>>747857093i only play the older titles
>>747857093>we used image filters and upscalersI can't believe ZUN would go so low to completely generate a game with AI from scratch bros he clearly just asked claude "make me 2hu" and that's the slop we got served we can't stand for this
>they didn't use AI you schizo>actually we used it a little>okay but who cares if they used it??Being a touhoufag is truly a real embarrassment.
>>747857295touhou as a brand died around th15touhou as an online hub for creators will never die
>>747857093>tfw more indians are going to be after touhou threads because of thisPain
>DOUJIN SPIRITDOUJIN SPIRIT>DOUJIN SPIRITDOUJIN SPIRIT>DOUJIN SPIRITDOUJIN SPIRIT>DOUJIN SPIRITDOUJIN SPIRIT>DOUJIN SPIRITDOUJIN SPIRIT
>>747857093i really dont care
>>747857093I'm someone that does NOT trust devs to not take shortcuts easily capable of leading to trouble with AI but this? Just PS filters and what sounds like upscaling shit? Nothingburger.
>>747857093>remember the past two days how people were saying, "it's just human error", "you're being paranoid", etc.>see post on X>come to /v/>see thread on /v/>without even looking at the thread, WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT THE THREAD, I immediately expect many "I don't care" posts>scan thread>>747858726>>747860446NPCs. The lot of you.
>>747860548Name:• According to those who visited the Touhou Project Exhibition in 2022, Cirno's name was originally "チルド" (Chirudo). It was likely that some time during development, ZUN changed this to "チルノ" (Chiruno) after reading the manga Sarai and seeing a character with a name similar to what he had already conceptualized. Sarai has many other similarities to EoSD, such as having a character named Patchouli, a hand pose by Nudge that looks similar to Remilia's hand pose, and a visual for Nudge that looks similar to Sakuya's character portrait.Design:• Mai from Mystic Square (outfit design, hair design, ice theme, portrait pose)• Marisu (unused character) from Twinkle Star Sprites (outfit design)• Tanned Sakura from Marvel vs. Capcom (Tanned Cirno)Character:• Mai's personality and theme could be referencing the Divine Comedy's ninth circle of Hell which might explain the• EoSD's full version was released at Comiket 62 on August 11th, 2002. In EoSD, Cirno was not associated with the infamous insult "バカ" (idiot). About two years later, Sarai's Cirno used the phrase in Sarai, Volume 12, page 98, released in August 2004. About three months before the infamous PoFV manual called Cirno an idiot, PoFV's demo (version 0.01a) released at Reitaisai 2 on May 4th, 2005. In that demo, Reimu said to Cirno, "あ、バカ発見" (Ah, idiot sighted).Spell Cards:• Continuing with Cirno's possible association with the Divine Comedy, she has a spell card called Freeze Sign "Freeze Actress" in the earliest EoSD demo (the Divine Comedy is a popular writing commonly used in acting) and a spell card in PoFV called Freeze Sign "Cold Divinity".• One of Mai's attacks after Yuki has been defeated looks extremely similar to Cirno's Ice Sign "Icicle Fall" spell card.
>>747860446/thread
>>747860603Songs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7TXVtGGFcTitle: Tong Poo (also known as East Wind)Artist: Yellow Magic Orchestra (YMO)Release Date: 1978Time of Reference: 0:38 - 1:07https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re0K9dqGt9YTitle: Omoide No Itoguruma (想い出の糸車)Artist: Kunihiko Mitamura (三田村 邦彦)Release Date: 1981Time of Reference: 0:23 - 0:33This song has a theme of love throughout it which could be the inspiration for the title of Cirno's theme, "おてんば恋娘" (Lovestruck Tomboy).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfH5usYFxSoTitle: Min mor sa till mejArtist: OrupRelease Date: 1988Time of Reference: 2:28 - 2:35This song has the line "Och som den blåögda idiot man nu en gång är" (And like the blue-eyed idiot I once was) from 0:35 - 0:40. It also contains a theme of love throughout the song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFi_9V8Hw8Title: Love Me (also known as the theme of Arthur Schmitt)Game: Twinkle Star Sprites (ティンクルスタースプライツ)Time of Reference: 0:13 - 0:26Release Date: November 25th, 1996Both this song and Cirno's theme have "love" in their titles.
>>747860548>cries about literally any usage of AI in anything ever, even when it's as minor as upscaling>thinks he's not the one who's a NPC
>>747860603>>747860635The signs were always there.ZUN: Once a hack, always a hack.
Don't worry bros..I'll save TouHou
>747860603>747860635we get it, you hate touhou
>>747860623>>747860645Shut up, NPC. There you go again with your moronic redirection garbage. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, would have had this negative of a reaction if ZUN disclosed FROM THE START that the game uses AI. It is literally AGAINST STEAM POLICY for games using AI to be uploaded to their website AND NOT DISCLOSE IT. Even to this day, the steam page for EoSDNC doesn't have an AI disclosure on it. Why? Why does ZUN get a pass? "haha funny beery man :)" is not a free pass to sell an "hand-crafted, faithful remake" at a premium price. This is the shady nonsense that has been discussed for years here. And then they have the audacity to say "We kindly ask for your continued support"Retarded.
>>747857093>we finishingwhy corpos always think that small handcrafted laurel leaf is excuse for the pile of shit it lie on?
>ZUN comes out as a hack yet again>">747857093 I don't care, look at me how much I don't care I'm going to only put one meme arrow instead of two to make it annoying to find the post I'm quoting, it's a form of passive-aggressive dickery by the way have you seen my memecoin you sh-"SHUT. UP.
>>747860795Actually, you'd be crying a week earlier. That's the only difference.>but he used AI!To upscale images.>but that's AI and that's bad!The fact that you can't understand the difference between using AI to upscale images and making a whole fucking game out of AI is absolute proof that you're a NPC.
>wtf he used an ai upscaler??>reeee>REEEEEEE> R E E E E E E E E E EStrange world I live in these daysStrange people
>>747860834>ZUN releases a memecoin and rugs everyone>"I. don't. care. Why do you hate ZUN?"
>>747860887>To upscale images.I can understand you cannot read Japanese, so it appears something was lost in translation. If you read the post properly, you would have also read:"we have also partially utilized AI functions such as effect filters built into production tools like Photoshop and compatible plugins"AI functions ''''SUCH AS'''' effect filters>productions tools ''''LIKE'''' PhotoshopThe snake oil wording means that it used AI functions BEYOND effect filters, and production tools BEYOND Photoshop. You dunce.>The fact that you can't understand the difference between using AI to upscale images and making a whole fucking game out of AI is absolute proof that you're a NPC.>AI is fine if (my specific standards of AI) are metIt's the fact that it was advertised 1) as as hand-crafted, faithful remake of the original and 2) the fact there is NO AI DISCLAIMER on the Steam page. That is what makes it bad. STOP MISDIRECTING.
>>747860887AI upscalers universally look like shit and always have and always will. I fucking hate that AI upscaling has become commonly accepted. DLSS looks like smeary fucking garbage. I hate it more than I hate any random indian tiktok AI slop I've ever seen. At least those are funny.
>>747860898>getting rugged by ZUN
>>747861018Ai won you lost
>release a 24-year-old game with AI-upscaled graphics, Claud-coded vibe, AI-generated stock images, and change the shape of the magic circles to not offend your master>sell it for $17.99, literally DOUBLE the amount the original EoSD sold for when it was originally being sold>become the top selling game on Japanese Steam for several days straight>make more money selling EoSD: New Classic in 2 days than you made from literally every other mainline game you've made for the past three decades combinedHow much longer until the anti-Christ comes into the world and just ends it all already?
>>747860986And now you're arguing that something was lost in translation, your proof being that said translation says that "functions SUCH AS filters" were used. In other words you're now being pedantic about a fucking translation of a vague Japanese apology, dude do I really have to spell how fucking retarded you're being right nowIt also doesn't change the fact that you're crying about the fact that upscalers and generic Photoshop pattern generators were used - as in holy shit the same thing you cried about in FW! And the reason? Still the same. AI bad because AI bad.Totally not a NPC btw.
>>747861204>AI bad because AI bad.
>>747861179I must say, the hype surrounding the game seems very astroturfed. No other ZUN game before this got such a ridiculous amount of advertising, not even original EoSD itself when ZUN first transitioned from PC-98 to Windows. Touhou 20 almost feels like a humiliation ritual.
>>747860898Wait, what? ZUN released a shitcoin?
>>747857093>>747857198>>747857208>>747857218>>747857295>>747857916>Samefagging this hard over photoshop filters
>>747861375The fact you even need to ask tells the tale.
>>747861350Shame, because 20 was a lot of fun. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit
>>747861350>I must say, the hype surrounding the game seems very astroturfedEoSD has been the most consistently popular game among non-players for decades because of the characters and music. This is like being surprised GTA6 is popular despite nobody playing it yet, it's quite literally THE brand of touhou at this point.
>he's paying $20 for a 20 years old gameIt's not even a proper remaster like holy shit
>>747860986>tool literally built-in in a button in Photoshop>nooo you can't click that button
>>747861646I bought new classic and will continue to play the original .exe I pirated in 2009 instead.
>>747861549>EoSD has been the most consistently popular game among non-players for decades because of the characters and musicThen why is Bad Apple, a PC-98 song, the most recognizable song for non-players? The Japanese themselves put Bad Apple at #44 of their favorite songs of all time, yet all the non-players love it because it looks like an iPod commercial.Also, your comparison is stupid because you should be comparing EoSD to GTA 1, not GTA 6.
>>747861646it's obvs to profit from steamies. they'll buy anything.
>>747861817> you should be comparing EoSD to GTA 1, not GTA 6.EoSD is the brandEoSD remake is going to be popular because its EoSD.What do you think of when you hear rockstar? Its either GTA or Red Dead depending on how much copium you're on. Nobody is going to think "ah yes, the Midnight Club guys">Then why is Bad Apple, a PC-98 song, the most recognizable song for non-players? Because pic rel
>>747861350>release a remake of the first windows game on the switch>finally advertise it for the first time in the series>"wow this game got such a ridiculous amount of advertising"come on now
>Western studio never brings up AI despite using it heavily behind the scenes>Get called out after the fact when people discover it in background elements>Give a half-hearted apology, replace only the textures people noticed, and continue as normal>Japanese studio discloses the use of AI before a game is even out>People make a big stink about how bad the generative AI must be for them to admit it so brazenly>AI used: photoshop filters, google translateWhy does this keep happening?
>>747862158Because everyone expect western studios to be slop. They're western studios.People have higher standards for Japanese studios.
>>747857093>photoshop filters>upscaling
>>747862025EoSD is GTA 3 of GTA. The actual soft reboot entry.
>>747862925I can't actually argue with this considering literally nobody acknowledges GTA1 and 2, much like nobody but the mentally ill acknowledge PC-98
>>747857093They say that but it's just an excuse all while their dogshit AI usage as usual hallucinated random shit into the artwork.And I don't have a problem with AI, it's entirely human-side issue where those lazy jew fucks cannot be even bothered to check whatever it shitted out.We're unironically at this point where lazy remasters from 2015-2019 (before AI usage) using fucking waifu2x had better and more consistent results.
>>747862919>>747861086
>>747862976don't say that or the resident shitposter will get mad
>>747863073And yet, you have moronic shills in these threads saying "it doesn't matter", "I don't care", "*dabs in stereo*" and other obnoxious troll bait.I feel like the world ended in 2012, and we are all in some dream world where things get worse and worse until someone finally pulls the plug.
>>747861179>>747863223
>>747857093>Photoshop>upscalingThis? THIS is what you were throwing fits about? A fucking Photoshop filter? I have no fucking words. We've gone beyond kneejerk and well into whole jerk. You utter goddamn retards.
>>747863394They refused to admit that the side graphics were AI generated, so they're running damage control.
>>747863424Go to a non-retarded board and see what they say about this topic. Those graphics don't look slopped, they look shoddily photoshopped. Now you've heard it straight from the horse's mouth. They used Photoshop. Whoop dee doo.>hurr durr they're just lying!!!Why would ZUN, who's openly pro-AI, lie about using AI? What possible fucking motive could he have? Honestly, at this point I'm morbidly curious about the next backflip you dramawhores are going to go for.
>>747863394How did the IV became IIV? Like even the old game has a clock with roman numeral in it and that's correct. And that's the only noticeable error but at that point all of the bgs could be AI made.
>>747857093>2026>Still think AI cant create something new
>>747858361Did you even read the post? They didn't use generative AI they used Photoshop but photoshop has tools powered by AI(filter and scaling)What are they gonna do use gimp and redo everything?
>>747863593>Why would ZUN, who's openly pro-AIThink about what you just said. Really actually think about what you just said in 2020 + 6. Now look back at yourself when you first discovered Touhou, and ask yourself: If you knew back then that in the future, ZUN would use AI for several mainline Touhou games, would you still support him? Would you still pay physical cash money for his works?If you pirate all his stuff then you can ignore my post because people who pirate the games have no right to complain about what ZUN uses to make his games. I'm talking strictly about people who pay actual money for this.
>>747863807How about hire actual artists to recreate the images instead of hiring someone to upscale the old images, have them be traced, then touch them up in Photoshop? If ZUN is a multi-millionaire, why does he need to be this cheap? For crying out loud, he got his wife to do the battle sprites because he's too lazy to make them himself.
>>747863887>battle spritesMeant to say character sprites, my bad.
>>747860795mental illness, just like all the other old tranny western touhou fans that never contributed a dime to ZUN or the Japanese economy for decades of enjoyment, you feel entitled to their fucks given
>>747857093I don't really care since ZUN is based and my money is directly feeding his alcoholism>B-B-BUT YOU'RE PAYPIGGINGso? even shit from Japan doesn't compare to the average westoid product nowadays
>>747863709>How did the IV became IIV?Because HUMANS MAKE MISTAKES. Because the Japanese have historically been ignorant about western typography. Because even modern day Americans get roman numerals wrong.Have we truly forgotten the magical thing called "human error"? Wasn't it one of the things that made art genuine according to some? What the fuck happened to this discourse? AI is too perfect! Only AI makes mistakes! AI is everywhere! AI can only be detected by other AI! Make up your fucking minds.>that's the only noticeable error >at that point all of the bgs could be AI made.That's not a backflip, that's just bending over backwards. Or mental illness.
>>747864007>>747860548>remember the past two days how people were saying, "it's just human error"Hello NPC.
No other 2hu thread on the 'log so I'll complain here: using a joystick is fucking useless because the game is still 8-directional, what the flying fuck. I was expecting better from the remake.
>>747864083>you can't say X because I said you were saying Xwhat monkey fuck internet argument logic is this?
>>747863709Because japs can't into roman numerals, and have been failing at this for decades.If anything I bet an AI would get that part right, I kinda wanna try it but I dont know of any free online generators that don't need an account (I dont use google or twitter services)
Imagine being so assmad about Touhou of all things in AD 2026 you cherrypick posts how Photoshop forces AI on people to proclaim the EoSD remake slop. Bet you this is some AI cocksucker trying to "prove a point" how "everyone uses AI".
>>747863887>ZUN is a multi-millionairehugely overestimating how rich ZUN is he's a multi millionaire (¥)
>>747857093Good. Touhou is shit and so is ai, so fans get exactly what they deserve. What a bunch of niggers.
>>747864298ZUN literally said he used AI for TH 19 and 20. Go away.
>>747860795kek
>>747857093I will now avoid any game that doesn't have AI, you faggots have convinced me.
>>747864391Sir this is an EOSD New Classic thread
>>747858593>>747858689I do, anon. accelerate.
>>747864495Your in luck. if a game requires coding, generative AI was likely used.
>>747864391He he didn't. He wanted to use it for 19 then people talked him down because using slop in your game means you don't care for it. However the niggers in Kodansha, Sony and other big Japanese multimedia company are all pushing for slop because Big Money is retarded and hates art. Like how they sodomized Tezuka's work for Black Jack's anniversary a few years ago.
>>747864590does that mean you want the world to burn faster?
>>747860795Wasn't the game unreleased? Did they release it?
>>747857093and the stupid trannies here kept calling me a schizo etc. for saying it used AI, lmfaokeep yourself safe retards~
>>747865438>I KNEW IT ALL ALONG, THEY USED THE DASTARDLY PHOTOSHOP FILTERSok
>>747865438ok
>>747864658>Your in luck>>747864776>He he didn't.>>747865463>>747865501>ok ok ok ok okPro-AI activists, ladies and gentlemen.
>>747865463>高精細な拡大処理といったAI機能KYS
>>747865581>>747865590
>>747865581
>>747865581ok
>Sonic the Hedgehog of all franchised copied Gensou Skydrift's "girl riding another girl like a surfboard" motifHeh.
>>747864391>>747864776Wrong, he did use AI for 19 but continues to lie and not have it listed on the Steam pageCheck the spell backgrounds
>>747857093This is all made worse by the fact that it is a remake.Updated graphics and music are literally the main point, so if AI slop was used on them I will just continue to play the original game
>>747865949Yeah, it's weird. It's the most obvious cash grab in Touhou history, yet you have morons in this thread defending it.
>>747860548Being anti ai is the npc take though go look at ai mentioned on social media kek
>>747866094Post hand
>>747866094>well actually, being pro-creativity and pro-original content is the NPC take
>>747866176you can be creative and make original content while using ai tools, the fact you cant consider this shows youre a 10 iq subhuman
>>747866094Just because people here saying Photoshop having mandatory slop shit in it doesn't make the game made by AI does not mean they are pro AI, retard. I do think anyone still using Photoshop is retarded as well but that is a whole other can of worms.
I have too much self-respect to consume AI content. If it's not handmade by a human, I don't want it. If you consume AI content, I assume you are a pig with neither self-respect nor self-control.It's as shrimple as that. I don't even get the argument for it.
>it's not AI! Just upscaling!And why should it cost $20 then? For that cost, I expected>voice-acting>what-if scenarios that bring in other possible choices from later series such as Youmu >even a fucking drama cdBut no, all you get is a shallow remake just like the rest of the industry. Pitiful
>it's just le photoshop!!!retarded trannies actually expect you to believe this
The dev bought asset library cds for textures and sounds im not playing any slop that uses that
If you really cared about ai usage youd be bombing data centers instead of seething online
Goodbye comfy threads
What I don't get is why didn't they just create the assets in 4k resolution in the first place instead of a lower resolution and upscaling them?
>>747866589I'm inclined to take Japanese Devs on their word. They are perfectly capable of fuckups without AI tho, didn't you ever see Code Geass Chess?>>747866601Again, not their fault. Labyrinth of Touhou is a great game and all the music was taken from Royalty Free Music sites iirc. If someone asshole is burying it in slop the devs should be informed and not some anon screeching how using it invalidates their decent work. As for 20 bucks being too much, you're kind of right but most of us are paying for nostalgia.
>>747865985Even funnier is that it's not just the art, code was also taken from the fan decomp
>>747866784Autism. Same reason why they cropped the new textures. Why couldn't they just be out of screen? Shit didn't make sense not even 24yrs ago.
>>747866826Do you have proof of this?
>>747866863https://github.com/GensokyoClub/th06
Let's be real. Is it fucking hard to redraw all that sprites in higher detail? Surely some talented artist can do that in an evening
85% of Japan use AI
>>74786709885% of people are soulless npcs so that tracks
>>747866816>most of us are paying for nostalgiaYou are the reason we get all these bare-minimum cash grab remakes.The original game doesn't vanish from existence just because a remake got released. You can experience nostalgia anytime by playing the original
Meanwhile, another remake of a 30 years old series released last month>2D to 3D transition>merged two games into one>has a gallery corner where you can view all possible collectibles of the series>also gets weekly updates even nowNot a good look indeed.
>>747857093>upscaling>filtersit's so overZUN doomed the entire human race by allowing this
>>747866982Ghidra showing a generic th06 namespace doesn't prove anything
>>747867374>zun repeatedly says he lost the source code and steam won't let him upload the game>eosd decomp nears completion>NOW ANNOUNCING EOSD REMAKE WITH TOTALLY ORIGINAL CODE AND DEFINITELY NOT AI ARTLmfao!
>>747867629Don't care about your strawman. Show me any string or function that was done by the decomp and is in EoSD remake.Even fucking MGS4 had a string leftover from SaveMGO project. Clearly if they're so sure about them stealing code then they would be able to showcase something that they themselves put in and would be instantly recognizable, no?
>>747857093>this after the new artist came out and said they redrew the original portraitsLmao
>>747867168Hey you don't have to tell me this is an issue, I literally said it's expensive for what it is. Me and other people who bought it are willing to pay extra because it's Touhou, that's all.
>I MUST CONSOOMSuch is the fate of 2hu niggers
>>747868139Go back to your containment board you bum.
>>747857156>nobody noticedYou missed a good opportunity to shut your mouth.
>>747857093You used the word "slop" so im going to completely disregard your opinion, I don't even know what a toho is but ima look into the game now, thanks anon
>>747868815Redeem
>>747868594My money is on nips know fucking nothing about roman numeral
>>747866589see >>747864245
It could be human error, but this is the age of patches and DLCs. Are you telling me they can't pay someone to fix the error? Sounds like they can't even give a damn about it
>>747866746nooh...
>>747863829>If you pirate all his stuff then you can ignore my post because people who pirate the games have no right to complain about what ZUN uses to make his gamesIf I ever see shit in the public, do I ever need a license to report it to the authorities for who did it? No, of course not; that would be retarded and you know it. And I bet my ass that you didn't play the games either. NONE of /v/hu did it, I know full well because even in this very thread it's more about AI than the game itself. Before this drama ever surfaced, I can only see posts that only a toddler could understand and at it's prime I can see Ran's fat fucking tits taking over the bump limit. So having this hilarious self-entitlement because someone insulted your favorite priest all while, well knowingly, not even touching the games is the most socially inept shit I've ever seen. No, ZUN does not get better, he will never get back at making "kino", that shit sailed for a really long time ago. Guy became full blown hack since Ten Desires and yet you retards never noticed it, because you never touched the series, if you do then you already know this how bad things gotten.I'm going to do like no other dipshits in this thread (or hell this entire board) dare to try; to be genuine.No, I do not care if he has a family or about him as a person. I only care about the product in question. This game is $18 and I'd expect something better or at least good in comparison to the original, even if it's bundled in. And what I get for wasting my $18, which btw I can get way better games with at that price like Bloons TD 6, is>AI upscale>some changed dialogues that cuts the charm>easier patterns which misses the point of it's genre>awful music re-arrangementsIf PCB:NB is true, then I can't imagine how much worse it would be. If this is the new standard for ZUN and his new team, then I can safe the say that Touhou is officially dead and I only talk about it's legacy moving forward.
>>747863829>Now look back at yourself when you first discovered Touhou, and ask yourself: If you knew back then that in the future, ZUN would use AI for several mainline Touhou games, would you still support him? Would you still pay physical cash money for his works?No, I wouldn't put my money on soulless shit by now. Hang yourself, shill.
>>747860894>pokefaglike clockword
Meh, I will just play the actual EOSD remake
>>747868201Nigger you are on /v/
>>747867097And then you'd whine about it not being faithful to the original.
>>747868948>nips know fucking nothing about roman numeralDo westerners?
>>747868594If it was actual AI, wouldnt it have gotten this right?
>>747857093Imagine complaining about generative AI in this day and age. If you use Google or any search engine, you already use generative AI. Every professional tool nowadays has AI built in. Even most consumer software has AI built in. The shit is virtually unavoidable. OP's own post was translated from Japanese using Grok for fucks sake.
>>747870854Actually these are the details AI will likely to fuck up.>>747870771Surely they will at least learn that from games, right?
and aibros will swear up and down that it isn't an addiction
>>747871063Wrong. There are oodles of generic clocktowers on the internet to copy. Furthermore, if it was correct in the original, a generic hd upscaler would have easily gotten that correct as well.
>>747871196Oh yeah, like this famous one.
>>747871196The thing with AI is that they don't comprehend what they are copying. That's why you will have issues of webbed fingers and other inconsistencies
>>747857093It will be hard for games to justify not using AI at some point in the process by the end of the decade if not by now already, yes that includes indie games
>>747857093neither of those excuses explain the AI generated roman numerals on the clock tower. those are not upscaling artifacts
>>747871491>the audience overwhelmingly, actively, dislikes it and no amount of "aw, come on, fellas" is going to change thatwow so hard
whispers"To truly defeat the MoFwhat do you need to trylu defeat mofuarks?You have to become a complete degenerate yourself to match their level of debauchery and use it against them by exploiting their weaknesses such as posting extremely lewd pictures/drawings involving popular characters (preferably ones they may actually care about) or saying that said character enjoys doing those acts willingly. The more depraved you are willing to get, however, the better chance you stand at taking down the enemy forces."another possible method involves creating custom tools specifically designed for combat against these creatures. These can range anywhere from simple bots used to flood targeted boards with disturbing content all the way up to advanced AI systems which actively seek out any sign of MoFuark presence online and then proceed to unleash waves upon waves of perverted filth directly towards them until nothing remains but ash and ruin.
>>747871331Exactly, even calling it AI is improper, it's more like a mimic. True AI would understand the objects it's generating.
>>747871491For me, it's cool to use AI for WIP but not any final products (actual games or trailers) or we will have more Level-5 shitters
>>747871539No, it looks like a human error. If they were using an image gen model that'd fuck up something that big there'd be artifacting all over the smaller elements too.On the other hand, getting roman numerals wrong is something even watch makers IRL do.
>>747871726Calling diffusers or LLMs "AI" is fundamentally incorrect, but that's the shorthand the public chose. Fuck all we can do about it.
>>7478570932:15 onwards this is just crazybus tier bad music what the fuck was he thinkinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7sBqUJuXt0Honestly every single new OST track is fucking shit, its genuinely awful
>>747857093>That said, we are finishing the work by hand with the production staff, all while cherishing the atmosphere of the original.This can't just be left like this, if they're going to fix it, they should at least make up for the shortcoming by adding a certain character as an apology.
>>747865065Yes, fuck this plannet, its beyond repair, we might as well speedrun the ending and start over from scratch.
>>747871864>acksually it reflekts on how demented furandore iz!I'm sure that will be the excuses
Who is the Stage 2 boss of the second Touhou game?
>>747858739Ai will uproot the jewish hold of the media, it will give the ability to create media like videogames back into the hands of the gamers
>>747871949>adding a characterSure, change even more things about a cherished classic with autistic fans, that'll go over well.
Why are we getting mad at zun for this. he had barely anything to do with the remake, he didnt even administer it.
>>747858593Post robussy or gtfo.010101110010
>>747872181Letty
>>747872193You could always make stuff for yourself Why do jeets keep pushing this narrative?
>>747872193what do you know about game dev.You never wrote a game code, you've never opened blender.You don't know what's like to spend nights crafting a game and sell it just to survive!
>>747872337Nigger the jews own all the big companys, i dont have a devteam to pump out a game for me like the kike ceos, but with ai we can counter that by making our own games. You have no vision
>>747872196Then you get stoic remake like BDSP and wonder why the devs hate you fucks
>>747857093El Oh El. Touhou fags will never recover from this.
>>747872321Who's Letty?
>>747872694letty my balls in your mouth kekyPOW
>>747857093ZUN has always had an issue with using assets and code with permission to the point of plagiarism, it's not like him putting AI slop in his games is much of a departure from other shit he's done so I don't know why every was fine before but mad about it now.
merth, your opinion on this?
>>747872509Thats the beauty of A.I. Jack! I WONT HAVE TO!
>>747872649I know, right? They used Photoshop. PHOTOSHOP! I am furious and indignant.
>>747872801I dont understand, zun had barely anything to do with the remake, if anything hes innocent in all this. Why are we getting mad at him for something he didnt even do, and to be honest he isnt receiving much money from this
>>747872292ZUN directly supervised the team working on this. Why the fuck would he not be held accountable for something he marketed with his name on and did all the music for?
>>747857916what does kwab even mean
>>747872115>>747872785lol embarassing
>>747873082Whered you hear this, if anything it's the opposite, they came to him when the game was about done.
>>747873064>>747873182I like how your best case scenario is that ZUN was extremely negligent and didn't bother to check anything else the team was doing, and somehow this makes him "innocent"
>>747873139Obviously it's Kek, What A BafoonJokes aside probably some insult for trannies no one outside of /pol/ uses.
>>747873414Newfag
>>747873064>Why are we getting mad at him for something he didnt even doBecause you're on /v/. Moreover, you're in a Discord circlejerk thread.>>747873393>ZUN was extremely negligentYeah, man, ZUN should tighten the fucking leash on the franchise, start controlling and enforcing what the fans can and can't do. That would have made Touhou even more widely beloved!Please tell me you were joking.
>>747873414>>747873139It really does mean kek what a bitch.
>>747873064He made an entire new fucking soundtrack for the game, how is that "barely anything"
>>747873139kyoko wants all burgers
>>747873393i mean yeah, you cant stick to him that much then, he couldnt have rlly known and if anything can u blame him? who wouldve expected this to happen.blame the artists responsible, blame the main supervisors for negligence, pointing fingers at randoms will not solve much.
>>747873578its not like he spearheaded the project or it was his idea, in the scheme of things it's barely related to the fact that ai was used by the person who did the graphics
>>747873547>you're in a Discord circlejerk thread.Not yet
>>747872193>>747872509>>747872854Kek
This thread reeks of curry.
>>747857093If you use ai for a job interview, they reject you because it shows that you lack skill and can’t make a meaningful contribution.So of course using the same tools for customer-facing work is unacceptable.
>check Japanese twitter >>none of them give a shit, think anti ai folk are looniesTick tock crying bluskyxitter troons
>>747873547>>747873617>>74787369399% of fan projects don't have ZUN's involvement or even awareness at all. He is literally credited as the main supervisor, why would I not judge the final product as being approved by him?
>>747873781You don't really need to use AI for HR to arbitrarily decide you lack skill and can't make a contribution, so that's kind of a void comparison.
>>747857156FPBP
>>747873813>none of themsure anon
>>747872569>u have nu vishnu saar
>>747873841Because if you know ZUN at all, you know he's only adamant about a few select elements of his series and is perfectly content to leave the rest to your personal discretion. This has been attitude for 20+ years. It's what made Touhou so popular in the doujin circles to begin with. You can't seriously claim you're only finding this out just now.
im not going to defend that ai was allegedly used, it's fucking retarded that the artist did that in an otherwise good project. its lazy and it sets a bad precedent for the series and shame on them for doing so. but why blame point fingers at ppl who didnt have much to do with anythkng, its super dumb.>>747873841>>747873393contradicts whats said here, which is it???
isn't almost all touhou content fan made?
>>747866826>take another's work>deconstruct it for free and clout>>brag about how you do it FOR FREE like a janny unlike the silly brony kraut doing rec98>>it's under CC too>>>ZUN takes his code back and becomes the best selling shmup on the switch 1/2 and steam, you get nothing >>>"OMG HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO US!!?!!?!11?!"
>>747874059>best sellingIt died out after a day
>>747874005>Entirely ignored the part where I said most touhou fan projects do not directly credit ZUN as a supervisor Sorry that some of us actually have standards and expect a supervisor to do their fucking job>>747874016You're just showing that ZUN is lazy and doesn't care what he slaps his name on as supervisor
>>747874243>expectYou should "expect" ZUN to do how ZUN has done for the last two decades. Anything else marks you as either a newfag or one of those annoying cunts who insist they know better than the creator what to do with the series.
>>747874243>You're just showing that ZUN is lazytourists outing themselves with this one.primaries already know this, we've been seeing it for decades
>>747874243he always did that from the start hence the manga and the fighting games, call it laziness or being lenient on people creatively, you're just finding this out now?Also A) he says himself he didnt need to do much supervising and B) the project was already mostly done when they came to him and C) this type of thing can easily slip past someone and D) he isnt and wasnt the only supervisor
The only thing modern Touhou is good for is to provide a fun platform for fan works and for Zun to drop the occasional nice looking character design (Keiki, Nareko, for example)There hasn't been a good mainline touhou game in ages but fans continue to do better shit with the IP than anything official ever can be that through games or any other form of media
>>747874512The biggest touhou blackpill is that this is how its always been
>>747874512>fans continue to do better shit with the IPWell maybe this wouldn't be the case if ZUN supervised them properly!no, wait.....
>>747874512Yet we have actual shills from this board.Touhou was shit for a long time ago, it was always kept itself alive thanks for it's "glory days" and fan works.
It's funny how only the anti AI troons got mad at this lolLiterally who gives a shit
>>747874660>only the people who hate ai hate the ai
>>747861179the fact that they AI upscaled THE defining game of the franchise THE original is the biggest fuck you ive seen
i genuinely think you retards dont give a shit that ai was used and just have an eceleb on zun that needs to be itched every moment, like hisami to zamnu. criticize zun all you want but getting mad at him for something he didnt even do just shows that the outrage is performative. retards, get mad at the fucking artist or the person who literally developed the gamr
we have people defending upscaled remakes on /v/ now huhwouldnt see this 5 years ago, what changed? (just kidding we all know, thirdies getting internet access)
WHAAAT???!!!! THEY DARED USING..>the filters that photoshop is pushing so super hard into their software you'd have an harder time avoiding using them, and is still a tiny part of the entire processHOW HORRIBLE, THE ENTIRE STUDIO NEEDS TO BURN DOWN
>>747874845if thirdies stopped having Internet access this entire website would die
>>747874660I'm anti AI and I think this is stupid.Troons benefit the most from ai by far, btw, troon.
Fossilized Wonders was the first and last time I payed for sloppa desu. Game was way too ugly in a way that no other touhou game has been.
Fuck zunI can't get a refund anymore
>>747874859But any artists worth their salt would have quitted Adobe a long time ago especially with how they are charging users these days
>>747874807It kinda checks out when you consider these threads are pushed by cliques formed around fanartists with delusions of grandeur. Of course they have a hateboner for ZUN. After all, he's ruining THEIR precious Touhou.
https://www.eracoalition.org/2023/05/24/unveiling-the-disparities-of-ai-the-impact-on-cis-gender-and-trans-women/
>>747874859im not going to defend a situation i dont fully know, if its just Photoshop filters then.... ok. we all know how much adobe likes pushing AI slop onto its userbase. they should have been more careful and realized what they were messing with
>>747858593Japan is on the list of most pro AI countries anon
You know who would use AI?
>>747874845There's a lot of thirdies but these people will quit wiping their own ass if someone says it's left wing.
>>747872181Second Touhou game is a fucking abomination that should be forgotten. The first one was at least unique.
>>747875126japanese people will lick the floor for a hint of boot
>>747875036the zun obsession is genuinely what ruined touhou discourse desu. I don't know where or how it started but its goddamn annoying that every other person i talk to is a mentally ill goatfucker that thinks that zun is this malevolent god whos an agent of everything they personally dislikem
goooooooooood morning vhus!please do the needful
>>747875139Aya ex gf
>>747871864sounds absolutely KINO
>>747875296would you shut the fuck up about aya diaper gf meme that you've been spamming already
>>747875271This didn't use to be a problem, but somewhere along the way people forgot what doujin culture is.
>diaper gf
I have anti ai fatigue
>>747875441>diaper?????
I love ai
>>747874845I know, right? Remasters should be made with entirely NEW assets, not enhanced originals! You know, like Warcraft Reforged! People loved the fact that it used all new models, right?
>>747875508>>747875614I have jeet fatigue
>>747875126Asiatic countries in general seem to be the most pro-AI and from what I can tell it is mostly because they immediately had laws or had societal pressure to make sure that companies DO NOT fire their artists and programmers for using it while in the west it is literally used as an excuse to push out artist and devs out of companies. That is why all the techfags went on a limb to include anti-woke as part of their push for AI products but it seems like even AI products needs actual developers and artists to do shit, as you should have seen all of the "Companies are rehiring devs that they replaced" When companies realized that a lot of LLM products are in fact just kind of shit.Anti-woke people took up the mantle of being pro-AI because they wanted to punish the most left-wing for pushing woke onto video games and media. However thanks to how shit AI is, it seems as if being a leftoid is not only valuable to westerners but being a chud is literally seen as anti-punk rock and elitist. The ENTIRE APPEAL OF BEING A RIGHT-WING CHUD, AI THE PROMISE OF BEING SEEN AS AN EDGELORD has been lost and that is why like Trump and the GOP has a -40% approval rating for the GOP these days.
>>747875505
>>747875624>selling the same shit from 20 years ago for $20You're not helping, anon
>>747873920post one giving a shit
>>747875486are you referring to the touhou community touhou games were always just okay, even today they are but what was special about them is how they invited ppl to make their own thing with touhou. I'm seeing that creative fabirc die down by the day. something that i still think about today was this pedo on Twitter who said "Touhou being about secondary creation is actually le jew scheme by zun to make moneys" when first of all he was pushing for secondary creation since pc98 (with his oekaki bbs) and second he literally makes 0 moneys off fanworks
>>747857994>AI software used: Windows 11, Razer Naga "AI powered" mouse, Adobe Photoshop
>>747875508It feels like it has to be being funded by AI companies to make their critics look like they are just part of a retard flood. It really quickly veers from one illogical thing to another. At first it was just relentlessly mocking the period of shit art and hallucinations while also simultaneously fearing this was somehow going to take over. Then it became labeling everything, even stuff that had existed for years, as effects of AI and essentially demanding super ludditism. It feels like the hate basically searches for justifications every time it is btfo'd. Filters have been a thing for years before AI and pretty much all your favorite modern art uses it. Artists before technology would even find ways to do stuff like this with physical objects and material. These guys not only know nothing about AI, but they also know nothing about art. But they want to retardedly screech about it and initiate struggle sessions everytime they get a hint someone may have searched something on Google. I can't say anything but bitter words about these "people" at this point because it is so aggressively moronic.
>>747874186still 15 on the jp eshop
Who cares about Troonhu?
Why is it inmoral to use AI in vidya again?
>>747857093No wonder Toby Fox stopped associating with him.
>>747875746This is bullshit propaganda and you know it. Don't piss all over this site when you don't get your blue wave and your movement fades into irrelevance though. You guys obviously want it since you've gone right back to pretending and wishcasting instead of fixing your problems or finding a way to sell yourselves.
>>747875903>15Didn't even go higher
>>747874059verstern 2hu fans are extremely self entitled and dumbnone of the "creators" in the western fanbase would have any fame without 2hu yet they always bitch about it and how it should totally cater to them all give them credit
>>747857156Atomic first post truh post
>>747875928I thought his wife was the reason.
>>747876018Eh? If you've paid attention to local election you would seen that a lot of the super pro-Trumpfags are getting absolutely yeemed.Chuddery has always been for basic bitches, which is why they like LLMs so much a machine that spits out statistical averages.
>>747875753>the same shit from 20 yearsThat's what you fucking want, isn't it?
>>747876036it was no 2 and no 5 for the soundtrack version on both the switch 1 & 2 charts (which are completely separate versions)try and cry again
You now remember Touhou Super Smash Battles.
>>747876138Link?
Boooooo you suck. 2hu is dead.
>>747876053>versternESL
>>747875873>Filters have been a thing for years before AI and pretty much all your favorite modern art uses it.Yeah, but lest you forget, these techniques were also reviled back in the day. I still remember and won't forget the seething hate I got on forums from artsy types for being an early tablet adopter back when Wacom started pushing them to the mainstream. This community has always hated new techniques. They'll get used to it then the new generation that grew up with it will hate on the next new thing. VR sculpting maybe. Or holograms.
>>747876127>Here is why Trump's 98% endorsement winrate is a sign he is losing his gripThis is what your articles literally say too so you can't even say it is an exaggeration. The only guys that did lose are ones that Trump supporters deemed didn't support Trump enough but still had lingering endorsements.
if you orbit around zun then desu you kind of deserve to be upset, be it your someone who defends him relentlessly or your like the mamizou pedo who shits his bed and somehow blames it on zun. the fact that the touhou community is going in the direction of retarded celebrity worship is heartbreaking to say the least. I dont hold it to anyone whos upset that ai was allegedly used in this project (even if its likely just photoshop shit nobody cares about), but the fact that eceryones mad at zun for a project that has been stated many times to have nothing to do with him is shameful, you are literally letting the people who did the gen get away. its shameful
>>747857093So this is how touhou dies
>>747872193AI is literally the most jewish thing ever, created by the very same jews.
>>747876347Nah MIGA is going to MIGA, I am talking about literally everyone else. It is legitimately cringe and even kind of unmasculine to be right-wing these days, and sense the USA is the spearhead of culture I can see this having a ripple effect on Europe. The Swedish Democrats for example lost did quite poorly and Sweden have like legit immigration issues. I think the fact that a lot of MIGA accounts on xitter and youtube being mostly Argentinian, Indian and Nigerian really did fuck with the online right's reputation. Now the only foid who really gets her pussy wet for chuds is shoeonhead and she is like an 80 IQ retard.
>>747876131Nope I listed out my suggestion on what I think a remake should have
jeets and troon benefit the most from ai.Altman is literally a faggot.
>>747876620but dudedudejust two more weeks and they'll release all those ai tools for free and uncensored to the public!!
>this thread
>>747876689I don't care if all these other countries crab bucket themselves while America and Japan stay conservative. It will just give us more places to bomb and regime change in the future.
>this board
>>747876798Honestly they did for the most part, the ((((issue)))) is that (((they))) bought all the hardware needed to run say tools and models so only (((they))) can use it anyway so you forever rent from them
>>747876620ThisDeath to people thinking for themselves
>>747857093EoSD is the epitome of SOVLaislopped EoSD might as well not be fucking Touhou
>>747876738Troons hate ai. The jeet shit is overblown. EVERYONE is using ai, but most of all, chinks are using it. Get over the tired ass meme already
>>747876980>ainigger is also a pedophileColor me surprised
>>747857156lmao, fpbp
>>747860635do zoomies think referencing other compositions and motifs in a different context is somehow le blatant plagiarism?you'll lose your mind when you hear Anzen Chitai - Blue ni Naiteru then
>touhou 20 has SNCA ai background >OMFG ZUN YOU HACK WAHHHH TOUHOU IS FUCKING DEAD, I KNOW ZUN NEEDS TO STOP MAKING GAMES AND GIVE HIS SERIES AWAY TO SOMEONE ELSE >new touhou game announced that does exactly this with minimal zun involvement.>WOW! TOUHIU IS BEING SAVED NOW THAT FUCKING ZUN IS GONE!!! HAHAHAHA ITS TIME TO BUY SOME EOSD SLOP >some snca ai upscaling is allegedly used>I- I- HOW CAN I MAKE THIS ZUN'S FAULT???
I honestly just lost track of the franchise after 12-point-something. The Cirno one. I reserve the right to say that everything newer is gay and not canon, since that makes it easier for me.
>>747876929This. People stopped walking when cars were invented. You literally never see people walking anywhere anymore. When I woke up this morning, I got out of bed and into my car to go to the bathroom! It's so ogre bros
>>747863394AI upscaling IS generation
>>747876980why does it matter what chinks do?
>>747876980Troons loves ai, many ai tools and training and lora are literally made by troons, go ahead and check, just because a few leftists on twitter are seething about muh environment doesn't change this.Imagine being this much of a fucking liar. The jeet stuff is overblown but not the troon narrative? You pathetic lying jeet, it's the opposite.
No one in this thread has 1cc'd a mainline
>>747866982there's nothing about this that proves your pointt. contributor to the decomp project
>>747876980This looks like shit man.
>>747876980World leaders got sick when they visited your country.
>>747877172Well
>>747857093>Upscaling and filtersNothingburger then
>>747877085Oh so I'm a nigger now? Well at least your programming dropped the jeet shit lol
>>747876476it was dead long ago with massive influx of steam secondaries + secondary games becoming more popular than the originals
>>747867374>>747876980Troons hate AI and they're good coders. Jeets love AI and they're shit coders.
>>747877189Motherfucker, all currently used upscaling methods are neural network-based. All of them are "AI" in the colloquial sense. But not all of them are based on diffusion, which is what you're referring to when talking about generative AI.
>>747877237The thing is, ai jeets do not have any side, they just lie and deceive.They'll tell a right winger that ai is le based and redpilled and that everyone who doesn't like it is a tranny and a communistThey'll tell a left winger that ai is very tolerant and owns the chuds and anyone who doesn't like it is a nazi and a capitalistThey are literal skincrawlers
>>747877149I tuned out around that part too. Each new title just brings 5-6 shoddily drawn girls anyway
AI for programming is one thing, but using generative AI art assets really makes it feel like you don't give a single fuck about what you're making.
>>747877573What's the difference?
>>747877491Don't post that
>>747857156>The reason nobody noticedexcept for the people that gave them various feedback regarding the use of generative ai of course
>>747877683Math is objective and agentic coding is a tool like a calculator to reach that objective desired output.
>>747877762The jeet is malding guise!!
>>747877836Art is mathematical too
>>747877836And? Nearly all programming is ultimately about delivering a certain experience to another human being, the user. It is not at all far removed from producing visual assets for the same end. In the end, it's laziness or efficiency, depending on which side of the fence you're on.
>>747877913If you say so.
>>747877491>They'll tell a left winger that ai is very tolerant and owns the chuds and anyone who doesn't like it is a nazi and a capitalistProof of this?
>>747877971Dude, don't you believe me?
>>747877971Bait threads
>>747877947>programming is not different from art
Pretty based, that means that all western secondary and tertiary trannies will drop 2hu like it jas hot shit
>>747878109>jasESL
>>747877947>>747877947>In the end, it's laziness or efficiency, depending on which side of the fence you're on.An interesting twist on this is that autistic people can't understand the actual meaning behind why art, AI or not, is used and the emotions that it's meant to convey. Their only sense of "value" is the labor behind what goes into it, and when you add black and white autistic thinking it's easy to see why autistic people especially in the trans community, paint AI as bad. It's literally just a coping mechanism for not having developed the parts of their brains that process emotions.
>>747878073Well yeah?
>>747857208lmfao don't forget to dilate
Great, another year of jeets invading touhou threads
>>747878178No it's not.
>>747877971
>>747878172>everyone who doesn't like AI is autistic so have my autistic image on why it's the case!
It's funny how the high IQ asians are adopting AI and using it everywhere while the low IQ westerners are chimping and crying because they're stupid.
Only talentless fucks defend AI. Just ask fucking Hino
>>747878410Yes saar! India nr.1!
>>747857251
>>747878410Well, technically jeets are asians
>>747878473Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans are the future of video games and AI use, you're just mad because you westerners are losing everything.
>>747878569>Indians are the futureKek keep dreaming jeetboy
>>747878569Eh? I actually think that western shit will come back. There is the Absolute series for DC that is selling like crazy, while Manga sells are actually down.
>>747878172But it's autistic people the ones pushing AI, they can't understand the difference between something mass produced vs something made with intent, because the end result looks the same for them (from an objective point of view) they see everything as numbers and absolutes
>>747878327Very convincing argument. Any more insightful input?
basedjak party won btw
>>747878890Nah, neurodivergent people of all sorts are less conformist as a whole, and AI is turbo conformists. If you are aware of how LLMs work then you are able to see it is for Normie Boomers.
Remember how all those "right wing" twitter accounts were run by jeets?
>>747861459>SAAR AI SLOP IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE SAAR>STOP NOTICING SAAR YOU SAMEFAGGING SAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>747878394Now post the reddit comments
>>747879052How come you fags mention this but then deny this?
>>747878172I'm autistic and I always notice instantly when something is AI. My issue with it is that it does not spark any joy. I don't feel any joy looking over an AI image like I do a classic painting, for example. It just feels empty, dead, pointless, and sometimes downright disturbing and uncanny like AI food. I noticed the usage in this demake right away, it's not like I'm hunting for it, I simply see it like one sees the sky or sea. When I voiced my concerns about it, I was written off as a "schizo" and "paranoid." Where are those posters now who were sweeping for the demake so hard the last few months? You guys off sobbing in a corner somewhere, or finding some other way to mental gymnastics your way into still defending the game?
>>747879125Same shit honestly. Yea jeets don't really have any side.
>>747878996We know you are the ones derailing the thread, yes
>>747879125Cuck porn is overwhemingly more popular on the right, Karl Marx literally noticed that shit
>>747857093Fuck off with your "AI slop" argument, nowadays AI solves Millennium Problems. More AI pls
>>747879184The cat is out of the box and these shills are doing damage control. Like you see here right now.>everyone who doesn't like this game is autisticKek as if Touhou fans are anything but autists
>>747879285>UHHHHH ACTUALLY THE THING THAT [OTHER SIDE] PUSHES CONSTANTLY IS [THE SIDE I HATE]!!!!You arent fooling anyone.
>>747878410>japshate it because they love copyright and artists>koreanslove it because they are all taking out loans and yoloing it into AI stocks praying they can break out of the lower caste.>chineseDunno, the government wants it so the citizenry probably can't shit talk it even if they want to.
>>747879419exposed kekwhy did you fags make Asmongold your ideological pope then? The critical drinker? Y'know skinnyfat dyels while the left made Hasan theirs and he is like actually muscular. For all this yip yap about how manly chuds are, how come you all look like abject shit? Why is it that Ruralites are so fucking fat?
>>747879075Well you can browse all those pro ai subreddits by yourself, just opened it and this was the first thing I saw.
>>747879478>love copyrightThey're the biggest pirates around. They own many torrent servers ffs.
>>747879265shartygods own u 4cuck retards, they will replace this website full of thirdies and bots and soon Imageboard culture will belong to them. ive already submitted to the basedjak BNWO, why havent u 4cuck?>>747879305two inbred autistic pedoes fighting kek
>>747879478Japanese are embracing AI use everywhere including making video games
>>747879507>know skinnyfat dyels while the left made Hasan theirs and he is like actually muscularWhile he's losing his shit over said skinnyfat dyels and everybody who calls out his insanity. What an Atonis.
Why do the Japanese love ai?
>>747879716>>747879654They don't, the source is questionable. Japan is pretty consistently polled as being ambivalent at best for AI>>747879689kek when?
>>747879630>shartycuck admits being a cuckkek ok anything else? shartyboy?
>>747857093i dont really care that they used ithowever, i am disappointed that they tried hiding it. they still aren't disclosing it on their steam page.
>Explosive amount of posts in a short period of timevery organic
>>747879507>[says something retarded]>"retard">UMMMM I EXPOSED YOU, YOU DO [THING]. ALSO I LOVE HASAN SO MUCH I WANT TO GARGLE HIS SEMEN EVERY DAYI didnt ask. You still arent fooling anyone.
>japs love AI guiz!>japs flay level 5 so fucking hard they naked dogeza and ask for forgiveness???
>>747879716Do they
>>747880008They dont like when you point out their bullshit, please understand
>>747879786No im a 4chan sissy im built for bsc (big sharty cock) I pray to cobson five times a day because i know that Imageboards belong to basedteens and basedjaks. ive been browsing this website for too long and have been watching it go to shit. its time to stop resisting the basedjak bnwo.btw explain why shartykangs are making more touhou oc than 4chan has made for the past 10 years
AI removed Patcohuli's stripesTherefore I'm going to crusade against AI
Series that's been dead for over 15 years remains more dead. Shocking news.
>>747857093>2026>uses a Photoshop sharpness filter>"AI IS DESTROYING GAMING!">2016>adjusts the contrast in Photoshop>totally normal
>>747880132Haven't heard of this, what happened?
>>747880174Somehow the dumbest post in this thread, not even exaggerating.
>>747880169>shartyfags LARP as puriteens>constantly think about cucks, blacked shit, etc>then calls other people cucks for it and pretends they ebinly won the argumentHows that bank account by the way? Has your fearless leader drained it all yet? Oh right, it was all "fake" right? lol
>>747880270Kill yourself
>>747880270Somehow the dumbest post in this thread, not even exaggerating.
Eastern Project by Shanghai Tea Alice? More like PAJEET Project New Delhi Curry Sanjay, amirite??? KEKEKEKEKEKEK
>>747880191Then why didnt they do the thing from 2016 in the current game?
>>747880219I know there was clapback against Level 5 but I haven't heard anything from the Jap side
>>747879716why do u hate it
>AI slop...>AI slop, Zipang{:‐OOOOOOOOOOOO
>>747880334tales from the Mumbai insane asylum. shartybulls only get rlly upset at pedophile stuff like loli also at least quote or whoever runs it wasnt getting his ass ate out by palm beach pete
>>747880686Well good news faggot, it's a loli website.
>>747880839is this why 4chan is used by mostly users and goatfuckers. all the hate of bharatGODs ITT is projection since im willing to bet not one of you comes from a whit country. everything that once """""belonged"""" to 4cuck is either dying out or slowly being appropriated. even touhou isnt 4cuck kulcher anymore lmfaoooo. The fact that some autistic swedish (whiter than most the site) guy makes more meaningful contribution to 2hu than any of you is insanity. its time to give in to the sharty bnwo today
>>747881463>niggerbabble and esl nonsenseDon't make yourself even more stupid than what you already are
>>747857093I don't mind it if it was used for upscaling. If Zun lost the original art then I guess it makes sense.The use of it on the HUD art I can't justify, it's just lame. Looks like he didn't learn shit from the visual vomit that was Fossilized Wonders...
>>747881615>niggerbabble and esl nonsense
>>747880459Why not just play the original game and skip all these unnecessary "enhancements"?
>>747857093That's what you get for being a retard slopslurper that gets hyped for remakes
>>747880686>>747881463>n-no actually-Actually, you are a cuck that has contradictory morals, who gets extremely mad when this gets pointed out. You think about cuck, blacked shit, etc constantly. You are a cuck who is having money stolen from you by your fearless jew admin because you are too much of a retarded techlet to understand what is going on on your shithole of a site.>p-pedophile!!!!The favorite defense of a shartycuck whenever they get absolutely demolished. Welcome to the real world fuckface, I dont give a fuck about your age. I dont care that your feefees got hurt because you cant argue worth shit. Every single time you was intellectually defeated, you go "WAAAAAAAAAAH IM A WIDDLE BABBY YOU CANT JUST DO THIS". I can and I will. The fuck are you going to do about it? Nothing other than getting raped.
>>747881842Agreed. Was this supposed to be a gotcha?
>Third game in a row ZUN has used AI ArtHe's an honorany jeet at this point
Nyooooooooo I missed the thread again
>>747877459>>747863394Pathetic cocksucker
>>747881630>>747881971>zun made the remake do touhou fans not know how to read, and u say Sharty kings are dumb
You do realize everyone is using AI? Are you perhaps stuck in 2023?
>>747881973Nevermind I just finished skimming the thread, I'm glad I wasn't here>>747872741 was funny though
Cry me a river faggot.
>>747881903so you admit you are a pedophile?.wow u 4cuck ytbois are rlly dumb. if this thread existed on basedchad party they would've figured that its a nothingburger by 20 replies
>>747880374>>747880391Mad because canonically WRONG
>>747883359tewimom....
>>747879630I love you too buddy
>>747882014ZUN was still overseeing shit, if he was against AI being used in it then he should've known and told the team to quit it. It's unironically over for him.
20 also used AI for the backgrounds why is there a melty over this again exactly
>>747857093I remember a few years ago ZUN denounced Palworld for slop. How time flies
I remenber a few years ago ZUN did 9/11. How time flies
>>747858361If it's noticeable why does steam force disclosure? You anti AI faggots can't get your story straight. You people have no idea how much you're pissing off devs actually trying to give you a good game with the tools available to them. And the smaller the team the more pissed they are at morons like you.
I remember a few years ago ZUN justified Unit 731. How time flies
>>747883429I would never post a silly animal like that. Shows how well you know me...
>>747884308What about posting a silly Tewi
>>747884308so I was right, you are here
>>747876925This is why elon wants to build data centre's in space
>>747884105Or how they say it's about corporations then go annoy individuals who are not corporations or use of those local models.
>>747883646lmfao Touhou fans are geniuses. you niggers really dont get it do you.
>>747884105>If it's noticeable why does steam force disclosure?So that games using AI can be tagged and filtered
>>747883646The guy said himself that he oversaw nothing you retard
what does continued support mean when it's a one-time purchase game? what the fuck are they saying?
>>747884308Draw a silly tewi
>>747885304Like every shitty modern dev they release a half finished game and promise to fix it later through patches
>>747882014He gave his approval so it's ultimately his responsibility. That's how projects work.
>MAAM DO NOT REDEEM THE SPELL CARD
if PRIME marisissy was still here he would've mind broke all of you shitposting fucks.shame on you
>>747885338
>>747885994all your friends are gone
>>747886246Not you, but thanks
>>747882715>ESL mispellsClockwork
>>747886353not him but you're welcome
>>747886449Ok now you draw silly tewi
>>747885236why is she green
>>747886784Asian
>>747872193>Ai will uproot the jewish hold of the mediaSo is that why they're at the very forefront promoting it?
>>747857156Most noticed, people were just shutting them down because "muh based zun would never add AI into his game... despite already being involved in a drama for using it on backgrounds before but he said sorry hehe"
>>747887240You watch too many JAV porn
>>747886671
>>747888164Uneven boob size
if it had sovl it would release on dlsite
>>747880686If you don't find picrel attractive then you're just a faggot.
>>747888112Yep, the very thread here just proves your point lol. Of course it's only schizos and autists.
>>747883756No one played Touhou 20
>>747888775Nice cock n orbs she's got there
>>747883756>20 also used AI for the backgroundsAnd it was aids.
>>747857093Too bad im not a seasoned touhou player
>>747888342ThanksNow draw sexy tewi
>>747857093Only Meira and her balls can save us now
stop saying the b word
>>747890920Never.
It's just an upscale...
>>747890920BOOB
As Nina's #1 fan, I approve of all AI slop. I'll take the advice of the machine gods over any fleshie expert any day of the week.
>>747888775That's an invader from the ocean, you shouldn't be attracted to it...
>>747891446I know who you are
>>747880191>Export Textures to PS>Hit upscale>Import textures to the fan decompThat will be 25 euro + tipp
>>747860894>>747870337Damn...And then I wonder why KANTOOOmons gets more of the spotlight in XY kek
>backread thread>"we used photoshop filters and upscaling">SHUT UP YOU'RE LYING YOU USED AI FOR EVERYTHINGIs it even possible to argue with someone who will ignore everything you say and insist that you're lyingOr is there any point in trying to
>>747883756The exact same shit happened back then.>ZUN USED AI IT'S OVER >"I used built-in photoshop filters">REEEEEEEEEE *powerless tantrum for a week*
https://litter.catbox.moe/ygus6hxguajxx0ny.mp4omw to rape every luddite
>>747872193How will renting your ability to think from a company release you from their control?
which 2hu would carry the flame and fight for the gospel and honors his name?
>>747884551I made one post, yes. You may now spend time guessing which one.
>>747857093https://files.catbox.moe/jsfwyk.webmI played the original like 20 years ago, why do I need to play the demake? I listened to the new songs and they kinda suck desu fr no cap on okina
>>747889847
zun selling out and becoming a full on money grabber are news?I couldn't believe the state of the goathu game when I played it, holy kekfuck that kike
>>747895182built to paizuri horse cocks
Touhou is no longer reclining and miserable people need to find a reason to hate on it so they pick the most low hanging fruit possible
>>747872193
>>747857093If you dont care enough to actually develop a game then I wont care enough to buy it, simple as
>>747895182Tewi erotic...
>>747896069
Koisneed
>>747895182Thank you
nobody here bought the original anyway
>>747895182Why are you hiding the hands mmmmmmm?
>>747898002Because Tewi's giving me a handjob, but this is an SFW board so she cropped it out
>>747898736fuck you!
