Nothing came close. Even the well established Nintendo fell to the wayside.
>played all PS1 games>used DVD instead or cuckcarts>didn't limit itself to one demographic so varied games>every developer prioritised the PS2 so it had exclusivity without paying for it
Appeal to normalfags, adults, and ball and gun gamers
Every week a 10/10 game released. I didn't even have to sell the idea of getting a PS2 to my mom because my dad had already done it. Super versatile console too. My dad played Tony Hawk and Tiger Woods. My mom played Final Fantasy and Katamari. I played everything.
sony always wins baby
>>747875717I didn't realise that even XBOX outsold Nintendo back then. What did Nintendo do wrong?
>>747875717DVD-player and game console for the same price as just a DVD-player, which was considered a near-essential household item at the time.
I remember watching the announcement for PS2 and the guy just walked to the mic and said "$299" and walked away. Baller
The PS2 was out 1 and a half year before the competition and also doubled as a DVD player, this caused a snowball effect where the PS2 was the most popular system so that's what most devs invested in, which led to more sales
>>747875984Games for toddlers and toddler fuckers.
>>747875717>son we need a dvd player
>>747875717>We can buy a DVD player for 200 or a PlayStation 2 for 300
>>747875984>What did Nintendo do wrong?It was the peak of "Nintendo is for kids" era and Nintendo decided released a purple gay lunchbox with no DVD player, no GTA and a kiddie Zelda. This was absolutely devestating when most millennials were now teenagers who wanted GRITTY and MATURE games. Nintendo tried to damage control with some Resident Evil exclusivity but at that point the damage was already done.
>>747875717by having GAMES
>>747875878>Every week a 10/10 game released.Oh man I wish that was remotely true.
>>747875717Xbox lasted less than 5 years before being discontinued due to MS and Nvidia falling out. Gamecube barely got games in the first place. Dreamcast died before the PS2 even came out.Meanwhile the PS2 was on the market until the PS4 launched, and was still receiving brand new high profile releases a few years into the next gen.PS1 also outsold every other console of that generation during their lifetimes as well, supported by its absurdly strong backcatalogue and extraordinarily cheap prices. PS2 being backwards compatible also meant reprints of games kept being made for popular titles. You could still buy some brand new PS1 games like Chrono Cross up until 2012.
>>747876474
>>747876391how do I get the sex with Yukiko game
>>747875960Chad Warden?
>>747875717It played DVD's (music CD's to) whilst being cheaper than a dedicated DVD player.It was the easiest thing in the world to convince your parents to buy one, you could even get a remote for it.
>>747875717One aspect is that it was a dvd played. Another was that making games for it was way easier than for nintendo consoles (same with the ps1) so it had a really big library of games at lower prices. The cred that PS1 built up also carried it a long way
>>747875717>stupid easy to crack>dvd player>dirt cheap>PS3 was a failure so it extended its lifespanand most importanly>it has games
>>747875984Nintendo home consoles were on a downward slope since the NES. They treated third parties like shit, and infamously stuck with cartridges for N64. By the Gamecube, Nintendo was seen as childish compared to the "mature" offerings of xbox/PS2. The wii was an aberration. Luckily for them, their handhelds always did well. The Switch feels inevitable, in retrospect.
Reminder that the "it played DVDs!" is just a cope from Nintendo fans who don't want to accept that it was actually just a good console with good games.Oh, and it was the new version of another good console that had good games (that could be played on the new good console with good games).
>>747875878>My mom played Final Fantasy and KatamariThe only "girl gamers" back then were complete uggos. I'm sorry to hear about your condition
>>747875717So you have the 5th generation. Sony enter the market and they decide to go the CD route rather than carts like Nintendo was doing. Carts were more expensive because they were basically a chip. Nintendo, being retarded and arrogant, decided to stick with them for anti-piracy. But Playstation's games were way cheaper than the N64 and could hold more data. Also, by being a larger company, Sony has economies of scale which allowed them to cuck the Saturn in terms of price. The end result was Sony dominated the generation and everyone focused their efforts on that system as in part due to the fact it wasn't a nightmare to develop on like the 64 and Saturn were. But the Playstation also benefited from a boom in video games as the young consumer base became teenagers. To put it into perspective, lifetime the PS1 outsold the SNES and Genesis combined. Fast forward to the PS2 and all the sequels to these successful games were going to be on Playstation and not the Gamecube or XBox. Again, there was no reason to bother with those consoles and those publishers were right. Because Sony dominate in the 5th generation, they basically established themselves as the defacto console. The only time they lost in the traditional console space was the 7th Generation but that was due to>The 360 and Wii being WAY cheaper >The 360 also getting GTA4 and a lot of other big hits (Halo 3 and Gears) >PS3 was a nightmare to develop for>The 360 really only did well in the US and England and the Wii was a completely different consumer base all togetherThe end result has been that XBox is irrelevant and only survives off daddy Microsoft while Nintendo retreated to the handheld space. But winning Gen 5 means Sony basically won forever and its also why they can afford all these retarded decisions they are making recently
>>747876549>"You can have just two for Christmas.">t. mom and dadHow do you respond?
>>747876805Spoken like a true /v/irgin
>>747876624>you now remember that net yaroze was a thing on PS1 and allowed people to code games
>>747876474its obvious hyperbole but it honestly isnt too far off. it was at least a couple times a year something memorable would come out, and lets not forget that out of the top 5 video games ever made at least 3 were at one time PS2 exclusives; Snake Eater, RE4, and Dark Cloud 2
>>747875798well at least you tried
>>747876810I was asked this exact question so can answer. >Gta3>jak and daxterGrandma and Grandpa also got me ffx as a surprise:)
>>747876742>Reminder that the "it played DVDs!" is just a cope from Nintendo fansIt was literally a big part of how so many PS2's got into households and that install base was key. Nintendo no doubt realised exactly what Sony had done and then copied it for the Wii.They didn't target gamers or enthusiasts, they targeted entire families and it worked insanely well.
>>747875798But enough about the Wii.
>>747876972PS2 was the de facto dvd player in south america and are probably still used in most favelas today
>dvd players were $200>a good home cd player was at least $80>the gamecube and xbox were $200/$300>A dvd player that also plays cds and video games for $300>WHAT? HOW DID IT WIN? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE TO ME I'M TOO RETARDED TO FIGURE IT OUT AND I NEED TO MAKE THIS THREAD 20 TIMES A MONTH!!!!
>>747876742The only option is to wait until an e-celeb makes a video on it and then people get their firmware update.The "it plays DVDs" only works in the aspect of "we don't need to buy a console and a DVD player for Timmy's room" because a dedicated DVD player would be in the living room.
>>747876810>two? Wow, that's a lot. You don't need to waste money on all that, we can just rent them.I'm not a spoiled little cunt like you.
>>747876510GameCube still got a decent library of games, and it was the right balance of established franchises and new ideas. It is worst than ps2, but being worse than the greatest console of all time is not that embarrassing.
>>747876810>"You can have just two for Christmas.">How do you respond?Doesn't matter, I had three brothers, two with birthdays in november/december, one in january and myself in feb.Between us we'd pull in like a dozen games a year.
>>747877124Yeah. No one bought it for games. Makes me wonder if there were any games for it at all.No one would pay (with inflation) $200 extra for a games console unless they wanted the games.
>>747877031>PS2 was the de facto dvd player in south america and are probably still used in most favelas todayI think you'll find it was the de facto dvd player just about everywhere, it was very good value relative to other dvd players.>still used in most favelas todayYou guys must be pros at replacing the burnt out lasers for the disc drives at this point kek
>>747877438>I think you'll find it was the de facto dvd player just about everywhere, it was very good value relative to other dvd players.Yeah. I mean, if you went into a store to buy a DVD player would you buy the $200 DVD player or the $300 DVD player that plays games (you don't pay games)? Obviously you spend extra on the feature you don't use.
>>747877438i grew up in the midwest and during that time boomers were all about the "home entertainment center" craze so every kid's house had a real dvd player with surround shit and shit, but the ps2 was always in the basement or kid's room
The DVD thing was just a cherry on top. And it being able to play DVDs makes sense because what else is its games going to come on? Cartridge? CDs?If the game medium is DVDs why the fuck wouldn't it be a DVD player?
>>747875717It was in fact really good.
>>747877586See: >>747877141It was "bought as a DVD player" only in the context of a SECOND DVD player.Remember that this was all pre-2008 so people actually had money.
>>747876719Still remember the "Ninten-Don't" adverts
>>747877586>i grew up in the midwest and during that time boomers were all about the "home entertainment center" craze so every kid's house had a real dvd player with surround shit and shit, but the ps2 was always in the basement or kid's roomBit different down here in Aus as the PS2 was pretty much the exact same price as a dedicated DVD player (early DVD players were even more expensive than the PS2) so it wasn't uncommon for a household to have multiple PS2's, and the grandparents almost always had one as well.It's still the best source of unmolested and near new PS2's today if you can find someone in their 70's/80's who bought one for a dvd player or for when the grandkids came over.
I still find these sales numbers strange. Like virtually everybody in "the gaming space" talked about Halo and Ninja Gaiden on Xbox and Smash Bros Melee and Resident Evil 4 on the Gamecube and you mean to tell me both sold that bad?
>>747876719N64 using carts was the best part about it, PS load times were abysmal even by the PS2
>>747878151The "gaming space" pales in comparison to the normie ocean.
>>747878151>media is realWho's gonna tell him?
>>747875717Brand. Advertisement. It was and is a shit console.
>>747878197But enough about the Wii.
>>747875775This plus massive amounts of piracy and that's about it.Also note that the DVD bit meant it could be gotten as a DVD player.
How far down the list is "games" and "new version of popular product" in terms of reasons people bought PS2 and how big is the gap between DVDs and games?Is it 50% DVD 50% game? 75% DVD 25% game?
>>747878503The highest selling PS2 game sold 17million, and 160million PS2s were sold.The highest selling GC game sold 7million, and 21million.If you adapt the ratio then there's a 110 million gap between top selling PS2 games and units sold.So 110/160 PS2s were only used as DVD players.
>>747878503Honestly a hard question to accurately answer as I think (at least in my case) the motivation was 100% games, but you used "DVD" to get your parents to buy it so their motivation was different, but obviously they paid for it, but then you used it mostly for games.So I think it was mostly bought for games on the basis that it could play DVDs kek
>>747875717Dreamcast was raped by rampant piracy. I think it was a great console.PS2 was also a DVD player which alone sold consoles in huge numbers.They had momentum from PS era and also had massive amount of exclusives for various genres.Gamecube didn't have DVDs and while it improved on third party lineup from N64 it did not match PS2. Not even close.Xbox arrived late and some great games but 360 was the real thing not long after.
>>747878503The DVD argument is overblown. By the time the PS2 came out, DVD players were much cheaper than PS2s. $399 for PS2, Sony's own DVD players were $250 with companies like Sharp as low as $199. People got the PS2 for games, being a DVD player was a bonus. If it made a difference, then it would've been not having to get an extra DVD player for the kid's/kids' room.
>>747878723This indicates a large amount of games. PS2 had the highest software attachment rate of any console ever at 10.
>>747879547>The DVD argument is overblown.Not if you look at the number of PS2's sold vs games sold. The majority of PS2's simply weren't being used for games.
>>747879636>>747879560
>>747875717It was the world's cheapest DVD player by a considerable margin. Dedicated units cost double, if not triple the price at the time, and the PS2 also played games on top. So if you weren't in it for the video games, you'd buy it for your home entertainment setup.
>>747879636This argument stupidly assumes that everyone wanted the same games, which is a stupid NPC argument put forward by braindead morons. Higher sales for the consoles means the audience for the games is a fuckton more diversified.
>>747879731You can crack open a Sears Christmas 2000 catalog to show how wrong you are. Dedicated DVD players were as low as half the price of a brand new PS2.
>>747876805why are you being a dick to anon's mother
>>747879905I can tell you now in the UK they cost minimum 500 quid in 1999.
>>747879841It's a Nintendo argument. Like how they all buy Smash Bros they can't imagine that not everyone bought GTA:SA.
>>747875717Xbox you had to pay for a proprietary remote to use it as a DVD player, and no one had it. I guess it's how Microsoft tried to justify having to pay Sony for their DVD technology by passing it on to the end user, which failed as it should have. And I guess that's why they went with the HD-DVD for the xbox 360, trying not to use their competitors technology.
>>747875717Because PS2 was the best console ever made, never listen to what tendies have to say, they are wrong and the numbers prove it.
games + dvd player
>>747878192Enjoy your 0 secs load times from games like FFVII, which weren't released on the console because it would take like 15 cartridges to store the entire game data
>>747875717SONY had a hatefueled boner for Nintendo around this time and was going for the jugular. It all stemmed from the Nintendo PlayStation hybrid console when Nintendo tried to screw SONY over. This enraged SONY and made them focus all of their efforts on simply dominating their rivals main market. In the early years of PS1 and PS2 adverts for the consoles were aimed at teens and used music video like editing to attract attention. The messaging was simple "we do what Nintendont". This worked amazingly as kids everywhere went for the PS2. They thought the Gamecube was for kids and would get called a fag if they got one. Another thing that helped was Nintendo getting cocky in the past and pissing off developers. They refused to move away from cartridges which massively limited game size and scope. One such aftermath of this was the colossus Squaresoft going exclusive with PlayStation. Tldr. Very complex but to jap companies were fighting and nintendo got cocky.
>>747879932PS2? My mum got me a bundle from Wilkos for £250 in Christmas 2000. DVD players were expensive af though. I also remember bluray players being close to £1000 around the time PS3 launched.
>>747879731There were cheaper DVD players at the time. That the console could play DVDs in addition to games was a selling point, though.
>>747875984Proprietary media format so you couldn't use the console as a DVD player. A pretty disappointing set of games at release that failed to attract older buyers.
>>747876678>>PS3 was a failure so it extended its lifespanThis was definitely important. The PS3 was a super slow goer so devs just kept making more PS2 games for years. There was no reason to upgrade for a long time.
>>747878151People that bought an XBOX or Gamecube were enthusiasts that cared a lot about gaming. Buying a PS2 was just a default thing that didn't mean that you cared much about gaming. The former is obviously going to be more vocal. Ever wonder why early Youtube was dominated by channels focused on SNES and Gamecube games?
>>747879932PS2 didn't launch until November 2000 in the UK, and most people couldn't get one until 2001.Argos Christmas 2000 catalog: DVD players range from £149 (Alba) to £369 (Panasonic). Sony's was £299.
>>747880558Ah, I get it. People only bought Genesis for VHS playback.
>>747880558>. Ever wonder why early Youtube was dominated by channels focused on SNES and Gamecube games?Because Nintendo fans are obsessed Disney Adults: Gaming Edition?
I never had a bad time playing on a ps2
>>747879636Nintendo heavily curated their console for better or worse.So the best selling game was going to be bought by a substantial % of the console userbase. Sony didn't curate the PS2's library much at all. It was closer to Steam. Where the most popular games don't make up a large % of the total userbase because there is not a lot of concentration.
>>747880558Children bought an XBox or GameCube. Normies bought a PS2. Enthusiasts bought a PC.
>>747875798Zoomoid humor is not funny
>>747880864Disagree. I was PC only until the PS2 came out. Gran Turismo blew me away.
>>747875717 Nintendo didn't fall to the wayside, the gamecube actually sold more over the dreamcast than the SNES did over the genesis. Nintendo just wasn't remotely dominant anywhere except in handhelds until the Wii.If anything, Sony dropped the ball with 7th gen and never picked it back up. Nintendo also struck normie gold with the Wii, now revisionists act like nintendo was always the more popular.
>>747881035>nintendo didnt actually loseThey got bodied by ps2. As did everyone else.
>>747880748Yeah. Because you had to be an enthusiast making a somewhat uncommon choice to go with Nintendo instead of the Playstation 1/2, that 'loyalty' was going to stick around. You already committed and you where naturally going to be enthusiastic compared to someone that just bought the common thing. Frankly I think the Gamecube selection was terrible. But if you liked it, you really liked it. Ever watch "A Christmas Story"?>Some men are Baptists, others Catholics. My father was an Oldsmobile man.Some men were Nintendo men.
>>747880864At the time? I guess if you were really into RTS games or shooters. But it was a pretty bum period for PC gaming in general.
>>747875717PS1 and PS2 generations are still largely regarded as the best and everyone has fond nostalgia for it. Meanwhile everyone only remembers the Wii generation as absolute cancer.
Did you have a PS2, Xbox, or Gamecube?Did you have a girlfriend in high school and lose your virginity in high school (to a girl)?
I had an autistic friend in grade school who would invite me over to watch him play ps2 games. And you know what I enjoyed it.
>>747880331This was super common. It was only the huge upgrades in power and 3D game hype why people ditched 4th gen for 5th gen and 5th for 6th so quickly. every other gen has game bleed over from last gen+current gen games being made.
>>747875798you say that like hardcore games weren't fat and happy with ps2
>>747880649>AlbaNext you'll say VR headsets are cheap because you can pick up a google cardboard for $10.
>>747881207Only game I enjoyed on Wii was Wii Sport.
>>747876742>Reminder that the "it played DVDs!" is just a cope from Nintendo fansIt's not cope, there are so many anecdotes from people for whom the PS2 was their first DVD player.
>>747875717Best games. First year had more banger games than the entire gamecube library lol.
>>747877706>It was "bought as a DVD player" only in the context of a SECOND DVD player.no, it was bought as a DVD player in that average households only had a VHS at the time.>Remember that this was all pre-2008 so people actually had money.Yeah but they also had kids which they no longer do.
>>747875717A lot of good games.Selling ~1.5billion games in a time of no digitial distribution is a crazy feat
>>747882664My first personal radio was a Walkman (well, not a Walkman(tm) but you know what I mean), but it does not follow that I bought it for the FM tuner instead of cassettes.
>>747880216>There were cheaper DVD players at the time. That the console could play DVDs in addition to games was a selling point, though.Exactly. You could get a $200 machine that played only DVDs, or a $300 machine that played DVDs, all your existing PS1 games, and any new PS2 games you bought.and the $200 DVDs in 2000 were complete fucking garbage.
>>747882894Not to mention the much smaller gaming population 20 years ago
>>747875717>Even the well established Nintendo fell to the wayside.The N64 already sold way less than you'd expect. 5th gen is a bigger miracle with Nintendo getting btfo so hard by a newcomer.
>>747880558>Ever wonder why early Youtube was dominated by channels focused on SNES and Gamecube games?It wasn't? There was literally nothing on the gamecube back then period.You're mixing up AVGN copycats ranting about "old 2D bullshit" games because AVGN himself ranted about SNES games, so the copy cats ranted about (often) the same games. It wasn't people giving a shit about nintendo, but copycats wanting to be the next AVGN.Anyway the biggest thing that dominated early youtube was halo machinma style videos because halo 3 was literally at it's peak popularity when youtube came out.
>>747882968>$200
>>747882953people didn't buy the ps2 only as a dvd player, they bought it cause it was a ps2 + ps1 + dvd player. so they could upgrade their ps1 and their vhs at the same time and be able to play both new games and new dvd movies, AND be able to still play old games.killer deal for $300.
>>747882968But that only makes sense within the context of already wanting a PS2. >>747883175>people didn't want a DVD player, they wanted a VHS player and that model just happened to have a DVD player
>>747883175WTF NOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS NOW!!!! WE'RE TRYING TO DISCREDIT THE PS2S SUCCESS!!!
>>747883175>$100 dvd player>can't play ps2 games>can't play ps1 gameswhy even bother?
>>747883175Post black Friday prices next you disingenuous fuck
>>747875717PS2 just had a ton of great games. Like, a lot of them. More than any other console even afterwards.Also Xbox had 1 game, noone bought Dreamcast and a fair amount of Gamecube was disappointing.
>>747875717It literally came out basically a year and a half before the other two did and when the Dreamcast was already on its deathbed.If you wanted a new console that was your only option. Sony was able to sell tens of millions of new consoles completely uncontested.
>>747883078Adjusted for player inflation, the PS2 quadrupled the NS total software sales.
>>747883442Hopefully they add the adjusted number to Wiki soon to cause a meltdown on /v/
>>747883348>noooo you can't just post the prices of when most people would be purchasing things
PS2 was start of the goyslop era of gaming. Everything was diluted into normalfag, loosely defined genre, open world, mass market appeal slop.
>>747876805Back then, there were no "girl gamers" or even "gamers" in general, because people just played video games as a pastime and didn't turn it into their entire identity.
>>747883281>But that only makes sense within the context of already wanting a PS2.PS1 was the most sold console on the planet by a huge margin at the time, everybody owned one, and everybody wanted a PS2. It had absolutely insane hype. DVD player and DVD games, 75 million polygons per second, Saddam is using it to power ICBMs, Emotion Engine, I could go on and on. It should also be noted that early game demos showed FMVs or faked footage, so everyone thought it would look totally bonkers. There was even a FF7 trailer for it (it was just one of the characters from the back, then zoomed out to show the entire city, but it floored everyone).And it also had no legitimate competition when it came out. Sega was killing themselves, Nintendo was busy shooting themselves in the foot, and the Xbox was a PC in a box with no track record (but offering great value for the price). But the PS2 was already out for a year by the time the Gamecube and Xbox came out, which made a huge difference.
>>747883175>$300
>>747883650No, that was the PS3.PS2 still had real games.
>>747875717It had games.P.S. many consoles fail at this simple step
>>747883874No it definitely started on PS2 with GTA and its many clones.
>>747883874The best selling PS2 games are Grand Theft Auto 3 and San Andreas and Gran Turismo 3 and 4. It is quite literally gun and ball ground zero.
Take away the DVD player aspect and it wouldn't have sold as much but it still would have won the generation by a landslide. Gamecube's smaller discs were a big disadvantage and Xbox was a new player with little appeal in the Japanese market. Nintendo would've narrowed the gap a lot if they went for a normal disc format.
>>747883971>>747884079That's ignoring that the console had literally thousands of non-GTA games.
>>747875717DVD player, and Nintendo shitting itself since the N64.
>>747883874No he's absolutely right. Just look at what happened to platformers. Both Naughty Dog and Insomniac continued to make 'platformer-like' games, but both Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & Clank converged into 3rd person shooters, which they then focused on over games that were actually about utilizing 3D space.
>>747884328Most of them are shit, including GTA. It has thousands of games, yet most are generic 3D dogshit like we have now.
Good to see PS2 still has tendies mind broken 26 years later.
>>747884413Wow. Turns out the only thing that isn't slop is the thing that Nintendo were making!
>>747875717Nintendo had GB, GBC, GBA lol
>>747875717Didn't the PS2 also have a dozen good launch titles something that modern devs don't do anymore
>>747878386>Massive amounts of piracyNever at a level that actually matters, unless you're talking about South American countries where they're never taken as a serious demographic anyway
>Sony is in a shit state>MUH PS2 MUH PS2 MUH PS2
>>747884594GayBoy, GayBoy Colored, GayBoy AIDS.
>>747875717dvd player and became cheap in south america
>>747884594Damn, three handheld consoles that operated at a functional monopoly for 30 years outsold one console?!
>>747884672I don't know why you're namedropping Sony's new toys for their fans
>>747884672Kek
the hype for the ps2 was unbelievable. as a kid i didn't even know other consoles existed. i knew of the gameboy because of pokemon but that's about it
>>747884712Plenty of companies tried to beat Nintendo and failed, Sony included lmao
>>747884620PS2 had the best 1st year of any console imo. 3rd party developers were willingly going exclusive.
even the people who didn't played vidya got one to watch dvds in my streetstake a guess
>>747884657what's the pointps1, ps2 (and ps3) sony is practically a different company anyway
>>747884628Funny you should say that when it was exactly form south america that sony pulled 5 million sales ouf of their ass to update their number of sold consoles
>>747884620>Tekken Tag Tournament>SSX>Timesplitters>Smugglers RunNot bad. As far as launches go you could be left with a lot worse before more games came.
>>747884862ps1 ps2 ps3 were all created by Ken Kutaragi. He is commonly referred to as the Godfather of PlayStation.
>>747885007I know anon, sony was also a Japanese company back then.
>>747876810dmc3 and silent hilli'll get gta3 for my brithday and nothing else was worth playing thereluckily since i got a brother it was 4 games and my birthday 1 month later but in my case it was only gta since i most likely got something for some other console
>>747885007The CHAD Kutaragi would literally bully his employees into adding more features to the consoles. He made PS3 his dream device and intended to sell it at a loss even at the $700 launch price. He cared more about creating a good console than any other in the industry. His replacement was basically a money saving specialist which is gay af.
>>747875717It was the cheapest DVD player on the market. Yes, really. Plus it played games and was also a CD player for music. Looking back, it's wildly overrated. The best rated games on it are:GTA3 - unplayable janktony hawk pro skater 3 - lolmadden 2003 - lolMGS2 - movie gameThen it's a bunch of madden games lolMeanwhile on the gamecube:Metroid Prime - masterpieceRE4 - masterpieceZelda - MasterpieceSSBM - masterpieceSo to answer your question OP: it's normies
>>747885436>consistently makes the weakest hardware of each generation>fell for the CELL meme so hard he had to add a really shitty GPU at the last minuteKWAB.
>>747885437You're just repeating your favorite Nintendo YouTuber's rhetoric. DVD players were already being sold for $100 in 2000. Most DVD players also had CD playback.PS2 was simply the most hyped and supported console of all time. It had the highest software attachment rate of any console ever at 10.0.
>>747875717>Even the well established Nintendo fell to the wayside.That happened last gen too. Sony curbstomped everything in the 5th gen and for some reason you're ignoring that when that is the answer to your question. The pattern merely repeated itself again.
>>747885623Normalfags always fall for hype, it's one of their defining characteristics.
>>747885623>You're just repeating your favorite Nintendo YouTuber's rhetoricno, i was there kid. didn't read the rest
>>747885638Nintendo got beat up in Gen 5 too? Why did nobody want them?
>>747885623guess you didn't have friends or familymy fucking cousin was at the time. and is. 30 years older than me got one to watch dvdsONLY TO WATCH DVDSfucking kill yourself
>>747875717Same reason the sneedsons still existsSouth american favela chimps
>>747885705No you weren't faggot. I bought a ps2 out of a catalogue in 2000.
If it wasn't for normalfags Nintendo would have died off. Normalfags saved Nintendo when they jumped all aboard for waggle.
>>747885623All these languages and you decided to speak straight FACTS
>>747885764what the fuck are the sneedsons
>>747885708PS1 outsold the N64 3:1. Nobody "wanted" it for two reasons - cartridges were way more expensive than discs (and didn't run FMVs as well either) so third parties walked away, and the 4-player nature of the console meant you could play half its good games by going over to a friend's house, so you didn't even have to buy the thing yourself.
>>747885780same applies to microshit which started all the cancer in current vidya
>>747876956ball and gun is code for jrpg zealot
>>747885780Zoomies wont remember but Nintendo was on life support before the Wii saved them.
>>747885623>replied to the dvd part>didn't mention the gamesanon, I...
>>747885437Madden 2003 is a better game than both the GC Zelda games combined.
>>747885623This. PS2 was simply the GOAT.
>>747886072Nintendo was never ever on life support because their portable consoles always printed money. the GBA sold over 80 million units you little projecting zoomy zoom zoom
>>747885780At least DVDs give you something. Waggle is and remains a fucking joke.
>>747875798yeah
>>747886165Nintendo was moments away from dying. Microsoft offered to buy them.
>>747886121oh look it's a ps2 normie! thanks for illustrating!
>>747886236Microsoft has enough money to do that to anyone
>ball and guni'm too old to visit twitter to know what the fuck this retarded new word means so i'll just filter it
>>747886236>Microsoft offered to buy them.and got LITERALLY laughed out of the room. tell the whole story, buddy =)
>>747886284Yeah fr nintendo was on the rocks at that time
>>747875717History revisionists will tell you the dvd player thing is false, but that is nothing but cope. I knew families (including my own) that bought it just to play dvds. Hell, the only playstation game we ever bought was a ddr game. It was straight up just our dvd player and thats it.
>>747886305Nervous laughter I heard. Apparently Miyamoto did a loud gulp and tried to perform a japanese swan dive from Nintendo HQ roof.
>>747886236>Nintendo was moments away from dyingNo they werent. You're undestimating just how much money the wii/ds gave them
>>747886292Sounds like sports games and any game with weapons (BUT NOT LIKE METROID PRIME OR RESIDENT EVIL REMAKE AND 4)
>>747886361Im trans btw, if that matters x
>>747886361>that bought it just to play dvds.Why did you buy a DVD player that was more expensive for no benefit?
>>747886305>"Steve [Ballmer, ex-Microsoft CEO] made us go meet with Nintendo to see if they would consider being acquired. They just laughed their asses off. Like, imagine an hour of somebody just laughing at you. That was kind of how that meeting went."it's such a great story, too
>>747876474I don't ever remember there being a game drought on the PS2. If Sony wasn't releasing something, someone else was taking the spot. And this was back when the major 3rd partyt publishers were willing to experiment and output a bunch of side games on top of their annual crap and small publishers with modest budgets were still around.
>>747886440That wiimote looked like a dildo
>>747886515Ps2 was cheap for a dvd player retard
>>747886762>>747883175
>>747886515in my country a ps2 was 80.000pst and a dvd player 330.000pstso yea getting a ps2 was cheaper than getting a dvd player
Average DVD player price in the USA in the year 2000 was $225. PS2 was $300 dollars in the year 2000. The blatant lie that PS2 was bought exclusively for DVD playback is paddled exclusively by seething tendies.
>>747886924Obviously people bought the PS2 rather than putting the $75 dollar difference towards DVDs.
>>747876970I have trouble expressing the joy this post puts in me.I went Gamecube, I still love Gamecube, its failure to sell made it a budget decision, but I bow before the dreamlike experience you're describing.
>>747886924This one simple fact has broken tendies
>>747886924>>747887106The lie will continue because Nintendo fans have more patience to keep spreading the lie than you do to keep rebutting them.
>>747887102It was a comfy time in my life. This piece of music: https://youtu.be/sgg79-jxKao?is=4bSNOPwDV2QGKVK2 fills me with incredible warmth.
>>747887106>>747886924>>747887210the not-lie will continue because you retards aren't the only ones in this planet
>>747887335Damn so DVD players were cheaper than PS2...
>>747887420not in japannot in spain like that other anon said up therebut you are retarded
>>747885759Cry harder tendiepedo coper
>>747886867Nigga that literally says "all on sale"
>>747887528But in relevant countries yes. Got it.
>>747887576Does "on sale" mean "not available to buy"?
>>747887628>relevant countriesyea lets remove sales i'm sure your overlords will be happy with that
>>747887576So what?
>>747887676>>747887895Are you faggots genuinely dumb? It means thats not a good indication of what dvd prices were like at the time.
>>747886924>AverageYou mean minimumThe Sony Playstation2 was not literally the cheapest DVD player but it was absolutely the cheapest reliable DVD player from a respectable company. If you were getting a 200$ dvd player you were risking shitty optical lens or shit audio quality or loose cable ports or god knows what else, and no matter what went wrong you were up a creek. With sony you were getting a quality machine, under warranty, with the ability to mail it in for repairs no questions asked. You werent getting a panasonic or a philips or another sony dvd player for less than 300.
by being the main platform for urban negro simulators, wigger racing games, yearly black man catches ball game and female rhythm games
PS2 was better than Gaycube
