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The Skyborne are a pretty lame choice that satisfies almost no one, lets discuss what race YOU would of added and what their racials would be.
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>>747918094
worgen
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>>747918094
high elves for alliance and centaurs for horde
high elves limited to casters, centaurs to physicals
high elf racials passive spell hit+5% mana regen+some kind of activated mana surge thing, if you're high mana you get spell haste, if you're low mana you get spell crit also causes a minor slow on mobs around the caster when it ends
centaur racials passive faster mount up speed (don't actually use mounts, just entering gallop via rearing up animation), extra 6 slot saddle bag + horse leg back kick; instant, 1s stun, 9y knockback, 45 degree backward cone with 3y range
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>>747918772
I like the centaur idea, but wouldn't they fit on the alliance better so they can continue mogging tauren?
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>>747918265
Give us something new, no rehashes
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>>747918094
Naga
Gnoll
Ogre
Forest Troll
Harpy
Satyr
Goblin
High Elf
Quilboar
Kobold
Murloc
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The answer is shit people have been asking for for two decades, like ogres and naga. But if it has to be a currently playable, give me my jew gobbos.
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I get why they went with the pretty race, but I too want gobbos.
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>>747918094
High elves for Alliance and Ogres for Horde.

My real wish though is for Night Elves and Forsaken to be their own respective independent factions.
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>>747918094
Faggot OP here, I had an OC donut idea.
Firelords, like the tavern hero. It says that they were once summoned by mages, and now that they are free they want to break away from ragnaros.
Males would look like the Hero from WC3, females would be the Atronauchs people goon to in Elder scrolls.
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>>747918094
High elves and undead elves
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>>747918094
mechanical-skellingtons
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>>747921810
Also OP my post got cut off, they could join the alliance or Horde, depending on whoever they make a deal with to escape Ragnaros's rule.
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>>747921824
Couldn't undead elves just be an option for Forsaken?
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>>747918094
Horde - Forsaken High Elf. Wouldn't even need unique content except for many a dark ranger class quest if they're a hunter.
Alliance - High Elf.
If there's an elf mandate these picks aren't rocket science.
Can also do half-ogre orcs.
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>>747921727
Dude yes.
Please become a dev and save this shitty industry one man at a time
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>>747918094
Naga
+15% swimming speed and underwater breathing
Underwater weaving: +10 tailoring
Pole arm and wand specialization
Arcane mist: gain 4% evasion and -10% threat reduction for 7 seconds. Cooldown 5 minutes. Lasts 10 minutes

Warrior
Hunter
Mage
Warlock
Priest
Can also wield bows, along with night elf priests

Hex of weakness

Ashzara's kiss: Can only be active on one target. Increase the targets armor, and any attackers to the target takes frost damage for each melee attack while getting slowed by 25% for 2 seconds. Instant cast, 20 yards.
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>Ctrl + F "Arakkoa"
>Phrase not found
What a bunch of newfaggots
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>>747922849
Fuck off furfag
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>>747918094
Murloc or Kobold, because I like small, weird looking shit. Not sure about the racials.
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>>747922883
There is nothin sexy about bird niggas, they just look cool and have interesting lore
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>>747923095
No. Never give people who ask for any beast race an inch.
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>>747922083
A lot of us have though this for a long time. WoW should have been:

>Alliance
Human
Dwarf
Gnome

>Horde
Orc
Troll
Tauren

Night Elf
>Elf
>Dryad
>Trent

>Undead
Undead versions of the other races

>Expansion Races could be
High Elves and Draenei (ugly broken ones) for Alliance
Goblins and Orges for the Horde
IDK for Night Elves and Undead. Furbolgs and abominations maybe?
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>>747921378
>>747922710
I've said since I quit back in Cata that if they ever add Naga, I'll resub.
>b-but the snake bodies are hard for the armor system!
I don't care, you've made billions off this shit, you can afford to do something cool.
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>>747923684
The armor system has worked with the naga model since vanilla. They just don't make sense as playables.
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>>747923316
But Human had high elves on their team in WC3. (Sorceress and priest)

Human
High elf
Dwarf

Orc
Troll
Tauren

Night elf
Furbolg
Satyr and other critters

Undead
Dead stuff


>>747921810
Idk about playable race, but a town of them could be kino
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...What was wrong with Blood Elves and Dranaei?

Nobody complained about those races being added, nobody complained about all the extra content added in BC and WotLK, just use the existing assets and change the quest, world, and overall design to be more in line with classic wow's philosophy instead of this special donut steel stuff
dumb af
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>>747924085
A lot of people complained about space aliens flying into Azeroth on their spaceship and draenei suddenly being completely different from how they were in WC3 actually.
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>>747924085
We wanted Highborn and ogres.
We got Russian Orthodox space goats and faggy elves.
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>NO BRO IF YOU ADD ELVES FOR ALLIANCE AND OGRES FOR HORDE THEN NOBODY WILL PLAY HORDE!
>meanwhile on wow forever right now the game tells you that you can't create a horde character because of severe faction imbalance
>despite both having elves
>despite supposedly humans being vastly more popular than all other horde races
>despite alliance having the better pvp racials
lol
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>>747918094
I'd make Vulpera the only playable race
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>>747923139
this nigga fightin a battle that was lost 30 years ago kek.
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>>747918772
>high elves limited to casters, centaurs to physicals
Actual retard.
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>>747924467
Their racials unironically fit vanilla far more than they do retail.
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>>747922710
>15%
Fuck that. Outside of pvp, and even then it's a niche application, swim speed means jack shit. Bump that shit up to 50%. I want to feel like I'm supposed to be in the water, swimming circles around everything but druids.
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>>747918094
Titan
>but.. But..
Nope. I want Playable Titan.
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Genuinely and seriously, what possesses a person to chose the faction with options like undead, tauren, trolls, and orcs, and then decide to go with humans with knife ears? I know there are some poopsocking min maxers who actually care about the racials, but surely that's not the reason.

I haven't played in years but I remember doing all that shit to unlock the not-night elf race and realizing elves were a fag race and never actually bothered creating a character.
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>>747918094
high elves and pandaren for alliance
goblins and ogres for the horde
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>>747918094
horse
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>>747918772
centaurs would be hilarious since they are basically like nazis to the jewish tauren
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WC3 with HOTS graphics/art direction when?
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>>747923839
>The armor system has worked with the naga model since vanilla
can we see?
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In WoW classic I remember getting chat muted for 2 weeks for making fun of this guy that was advertising his bot farm. I stopped engaging in WoW after that
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>>747925851
Look up videos of people using tmorph to play as naga from 2007? or use the model viewer on wowhead?
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>>747925851
Many private servers has custom races.
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>>747918094
Forsaken Tauren
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broken for alliance
ogre for horde
it would piss off normies and trannies who wanna play as twinks and anime characters, but it would fit very well into the vanilla atmosphere.
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>>747918094
A scourge faction that is locked out of instanced content and has a singular goal of accumulating dead bodies for the Lich King's army. There would be a meter measuring the scourge's overall power, which would fill over an arbitrary long duration until content was prepared. Once complete, the scourge would initiate an overwhelming onslaught against the world.
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>>747926852
I want the option to play as a scourge necromancer instead of a warlock.
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>>747918094
>what race YOU would of added and what their racials would be
Draconids.
Dragonblood passive: -2% damage taken
Chromatic shield: +2% chance to resist spells
Draconic diplomacy: aggro range on dragon type mobs reduced significantly.
Fire breathing: AoE frontal damage with 2sec disorient, breaks upon taking damage 2 mins cd.
Warrior
Hunter
Rogue
Mage
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>>747926780
>my sole enjoyment stems from fucking with others so i wanna play as the JUSTed fucked up defeated people race
Truly dedicated.
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>>747924085
>What was wrong with Blood Elves and Dranaei?
Blood elves went to the horde because the faction imbalance was really something in vanilla but that upset a lot of sekrit club type special people.
Draenei were the unfucked version of the "broken" draenei and that upset a lot of people because the pretty race went to the faction with pretty races. They thought that the broken were way more interesting than they really were because some people out there have this fetish for fucked up shit.
As you can see, a lot of people have too much time on their hands, but the bitching only happens when non fucked up pretty races are introduced to the game, so there's a pattern you can see there that's very similar to recent past events over the last 10 years in gaming.
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>>747921727
>Every realm becomes 9A:1H pop ratio
You cannot give one faction the belf model and not the other if you want healthy faction populations
They'll have to do retail bullshit to fix it again
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>>747923316
>WoW should have been:
>gnome
please kill yourself
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>>747929024
nope. i genuinely want them and have always wanted them.
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>>747930160
>i genuinely want them
Just to confirm, you wanna play as this? Even the devs realized they created a really fucked up thing and retouched them later in TBC for example, and made them look less bad and well, broken. Where would you think they would fit in? horde?
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>>747930360
yes? what is the problem here exactly? they can touch them up a bit to make them look a little bit cooler while keeping them fundamentally more monstrous than the draenei. they already have bizarre monstrous races like trolls being playable, why not broken?
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>>747925887
I understand why EVE O let's people bot, but WoW has never had anyway to turn in-game cash into revenue for Blizz, has it?
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>>747926780
An important thing to consider when talking about "vanilla atmosphere" is how faction identity is an important aspect of it.
Alliance is the civilized and pretty while horde is savage and ugly.
Fans of both Alliance and Horde like their faction because of the consistency.
Blood Elves are controversial because they didn't fit into Horde aesthetic back in the day, just how broken wouldn't fit with vanilla Alliance.
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>>747930360
yes and they should make them look more hideous, i want the women players to flee at the sight of me just like in real life
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>>747930554
>yes? what is the problem here exactly?
>posts the less fucked up looking TBC version
That's the point. I knew you would post the TBC version.
>they can touch them up a bit to make them look a little bit cooler
Even you, Mr. "just fuck my shit up" don't want to play as the broken from w3. You want the "cooler" broken. Compare the eyesockets and mouths of the previous version and the latest "retouched, prettied up" version. Kind of self defeating if you too don't wanna play as the monsters.
Anyway, they'd probably fit in the horde or something, should work out well, and by well i mean barely anybody would play it, as even their champions like you don't actually wanna play as the actual broken.

Protip: your hesitance to play as the actual, original broken is the reason why draenei were added. Most people think just like you do, but are a wee bit more honest than you are.
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>>747930727
>i want the women players to flee at the sight of me just like in real life
kek, the real deal.
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>>747930835
bro I am fucking down to play the ultra fucked up version. i never said i wasnt. what i did mean originally though was the Krokul, specifically, so the middle point between Draenei and The Lost. They can still look fucked up and badass, motherfucker.
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why the obsession with high elves? I though skyborne were hated cause they're just another elf race. You seriously want another elf race instead of another elf race? boring mfs
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>>747930360
>Just to confirm, you wanna play as this?
>you wanna play spooky space assassins that kill shit with scythes and have so many scythes even their caster units get scythes
YEAH I wanna play the baleen niggas. Playing fucked up monsters is fun and their animations are great.

I do like the draenei we got, too, but I really wanted my OGs.
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>>747931054
Skyborne are annoying because
>no one asked for them
>they're yet another flavor of elf when the setting already has like... four or five now?
>they're just a Blood Elf recolor packaged up for $30
>their story is stupid and they stick out like a sore thumb in the Vanilla-ish environment
People want high elves because they've wanted them since vanilla and some dip at Blizz just refuses to pull the trigger, even when every objection Blizz has raised to the idea has been ignored by every other special flavor of elf they decided to add.
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thanks to metzen we didn't get high elves
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>>747922710
fish booba
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>>747918265
Yiff in hell furfag
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>>747931054
the problem is that its another made up elf race which is a pattern blizzard has found themselves relying way too much on. if it was only night elf and high elf, that would be fine, but they constantly add shit like void elves, nightborne, dracthyr, haranir, (totally not an elf guys) and the hyper focus on elf characters in the story of retail like sylvanas, xalatath, etc.
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>>747918094
Horse will be 80% blue elves and 20% PvP tryhards that roll Orc.
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>>747931498
>Naga joining the Horde
>ever
Doubtful. I do wonder what Blizz's issue is with Drakonids though. Those guys are breddy cool.
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Ight guys I got the best idea

leper gnomes for horde and half orcs for the alliance (they're just regular orc models but with human skin tones)
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>>747918094
I bet both that new race idea and the glow/bloom effect were a women + troon moment idea within the meeting table
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If this is meant to be a new beginning I'd add in all of the races I intended to add at the start and not add any as time goes on or save them for many years down the road. Set a foundation and then let it do it's thing, don't slap new shit on constantly. It fucking boggles my mind that they are just throwing another flavor of half assed elf into the game while actively ignoring the ones they already have, much less not adding the one people ask for.

>Blood elves
>High elves
>Naga
>Ogre/Drakonid
>Goblin as the independent race

>>747921987
>>747921824
This is also a very interesting idea, undead versions of other races.
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>>747933238
Probably, but the game in charge of the whole project basically said yesterday:
>Yeah, we wanted elves for launch, but we didn't want to make Quel'thalas, we are going to save Blood/High Elves for that
>So we just said fuck it and made up some bullshit. We're gameplay first, so it doesn't matter.
Those are the guys who are going to keep that "classic" vibe with the new content.
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>>747933518
>but we didn't want to make Quel'thalas
But it's already made ?.....
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>>747933564
Presumably they didn't want to use the TBC version, and can't use the Midnight version since it doesn't fit the classic art style.
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>>747933825
I honestly can't imagine why they wouldn't want to use the TBC version, if you want to change their story then you fix up the city, remove the scar, done. I forget what the ghostlands lore was, maybe keep it who knows. The only downside is you might want to adjust where it is because if it was a nu-vanilla starting city you need other low level zones outside of it and not 50-60 shit.
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>>747918094
Skeletons, its the only race that would make me buy that shitty game.
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>>747918094
but metzen approved of it, clearly this is in line with the true spirit of wow
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>>747921378
Lorewise, what starting zones would any of the following races have?

>Gnoll
>Harpy
>Satyr
>Quilboar
>Kobold
>Murloc

Having played Wc3 multiple times I can only fully agree with wanting Nagas, Ogres, Forest Trolls and High Elves in WoW.
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>>747934053
>I honestly can't imagine why they wouldn't want to use the TBC version
Because they would have to edit thousands of lines of dialogue referencing things that happened only in the TBC canon.
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>>747934527
Why would they have to do that? You're copying the map anon not all the quests and story.
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>>747934587
So they're just going to have a city with no NPCs in it?
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warcraft 3 was fun and all but I don't get what kind of mental illness it takes to be invested in the lore of discount DnD, which is already pop-culturefied Tolkien
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they should add playable anime girls to wow forever with boob sliders
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>>747934703
bro are you being intentionally obtuse
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>>747934780
No, you're just retarded. If they reuse Silvermoon they're obviously going to reuse the NPCs. But if they do that then they need to identify and edit all the dialogue of all the NPCs to remove the events referencing TBC.
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>>747918094
Are their infrastructures just reskinned NELF buildings?
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>>747934834
oh so you're just actually stupid
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>>747921727
During Wrath I wanted the option for Death Knights to stay loyal to the Lich King and you could be enemies to BOTH Alliance and Horde. It would only work for that expansion but it would have been great.
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>>747934907
Pretty much, they are highborne that fled Eldre'Thalas/Dire Maul but they don't even look like night elves but look like high elves which is weird since they've never been to the sunwell, whatever
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>>747929904
It will never cease to amaze me how buck broken WoW players are over gnomes.
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>>747923839
>They just don't make sense as playables
this excuse really doesn't fly after all the shit they've pulled like Yiffkin and Void elves.
like hell weren't they going to add something as stupid as lightforged undead before they realized how unpopular that was?
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>>747918094
third faction with naga, blood elves and broken draenei, reusing tbc areas and assets for their leveling zones and cities.
but this company couldn't figure out how to put armor on dracthyr, so of course it would never happen.
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>>747931498
did they actually add the vampire elves?
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>>747934336
metzen hasn't understood the "spirit of WoW" in 20 years. dude can't even bother to explain elves and dragons liking bikini armor despite that being all they used to wear.
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>>747918094
>would of added
i fucking hate third worlders
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>>747935152
Gnomercy
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>>747935309
havent played this dogshit game since BFA but iirc they gave that as a customization option to blood elves or some shit.
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>>747918094
nah let’s think of what dumbshit races blizz will add next

good forsaken
nagas with feet
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>>747918772
Just stop. Blood elves ARE high elves.
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>>747918094
Ogre
Starts in mulgore. They are same size as tauren, rejoining the horde because other ogre clans have almost wiped them out or whatever due to their smaller size. They have their own mini town up in mountains of tauren starting zone and a few new quests for them but otherwise they are trying to help tauren out to earn refuge in mulgore for a bit.
Classes: Warrior, Warlock, Shaman, Mage

Racials:
Me smash: Smashes target enemy doing X damage and knocking them on the ground for 1 second. 1.5 second cast time, 3 min cooldown. can be used while moving.
Glutton: gain an extra X amount of spirit/stamina when benefiting from a food buff

Furblogs:
Starts in teldrassil with night elfs. they are refugees, pushed out of their home by other furblogs.
Classes: warrior, Hunter, Shaman, Rogue, Priest.

Racials:
Rejuvenating herbs: restores 20% of your HP and mana over 10 seconds, 3 minute cooldown.
Cousins of timbermaw:Starts friendly (or maybe honored) with timbermaw hold. can speak to the quarter master at timbermaw hold to unlock a hearthstone ability to go there.
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>>747931326
I read this as Metzen meant for them to go for more obscure races like nagas, ogres, dragons etc. but the devs completely missed the point and went "no old elves? ...new elves! (still old elves)"
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>>747936302
>Metzen: High elves? No no, think BIGGER
>Nu-devs: uhh okay... uhhhh High elves, but BLUE
My curiosity of how metzen thought about that is actually quite high. was he impressed or did he facepalm and say ok whatever. Maybe he actually thought "high elves bbut blue" is an improvement simply for the novelty.
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>>747936246
finally a non-retarded person who gets the spirit of vanilla. would be so sick to have these two races, man.
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>>747918094
The fuck is a "skyborne"? Is there invisible Pandaria 2 floating in the sky over Azeroth?
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>>747918094
What is ridiculous is that they could have added all high elves, blood elves, dranei, ogres, goblins, drakonids, worgen and naga and it would not have twisted anything about the lore of azeroth in vanilla wow. Only one of these I'd be against is worgen as it began the turning of the wow playerbase into furries but that is not the game's fault.

But no they had to invent some lorebreaking shit to justify charging a basegame price, while reusing assets and recolors to make it as cheap as possible in devtime.

Dont care what they put in this game as I'm never paying blizzard, what I'm mad about is they killed turtle, epoch and ascension for this.
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>Add Naga
>Repurpose Vashjir into a starter area
>Naga would be the only race that could breathe under water permanently so that would add flavor to it early on
>It would also be the only areas with """flying""" meaning they could focus entirely on vertical designs, making the experience unique within the new game as no other areas have flying
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in my opinion they should just add 3-4 new playable races for classic that are fun and now worry too much about lore or their starting zones, like maybe give each starting zone a new race at once and have 1 diplomat NPC at nearby major city.
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>>747937001
playable nagas wouldnt work though. please stay tuned for our next race reveal: high elves, but green
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>>747936765
worgen could be fine as long as they look like insane ferocious monsters rather than cute cuddly wubbly dogs.
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>>747937101
In what way would they not work anon.
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>>747918094
Turtle had the best idea with High Elves for Alliance and Goblins for Horde.

Metzen is a retard for thinking sky elves belong in Vanilla.
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>>747937165
>as long as they look like insane ferocious monsters
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Something has to be wrong with the server routing. Even if the servers are NA only, it should not be this bad. A little bit of delay is expected (100-200 depending on where in Europe you are). But the disconnects prove that something is just broken, and clearly not intentional. That's not excusing them in any way, but I do expect it to get fixed rather soon.
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>>747926780
Hear me out;
Broken for the Horde - High Elves for the Alliance. Like >>747930671 said, it fits with the aesthetics.
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Ogre pls
I just like being a giant retard who casts spells in mmos
half ogre wizard in dark age of camelot
roegadyn scholar in ff14
ogre elementalist in monsters and magic
let me be an ogre warlock or something you COWARDS let me be a ROBE WEARING RETARD
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>>747937457
Sorry. Just like Naga the logistics to make an ogre work for players is just impossible. How about a red colored blood elf? Perhaps a purple one?
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>>747937101
>billion dollar company
>allergic to even the most basic of effort to make their highest selling game enjoyable
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>>747931326
so unbelievably washed up
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>>747918094
There's no way this isn't a humiliation ritual because blizzard knows that can get away with literally anything and wow players will still buy it and eat it up.
$30 pallet swapped blood elves and those subhumans are genuinely cheering for it. Maybe gamers deserve the scorn they get from developers.
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The funny thing about it all is that you have all the base animations already for something like Ogre or Naga, gear aside from a helmet or shoulderpads is basically painted onto the model, not much effort there either.
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>>747918094
Naga
Underwater breathing, small flat armour bonus cos scales, polearm mastery. Active ability would be a frost based slow
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>>747936302
>Metzie: Alliance elves? Maybe do something bigger? More impactful. This is supposed to be 'Forever,' guys.
>Devs: You're right... You're right! EVERYONE gets elves, but they're light blue instead of the dark blue of Night Elves! You're a genius Mr. Metzen!
>Metzawabble: Jesus, whatever... Can I just go back to Heroes of the Storm, where I wanted to retire?
>ActiBlizz: NO! BACK TO THE MONEY PITS WITH YOU!
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>>747937718
Yeah but, that sounds more complicated than reskinning a blood elf. Sorry, it's just impossible.
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PSA TURN RENDER SCALE TO 98%
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>>747937679
The assumption early on was that this was for the asian market since they won't play ugly characters, but that doesn't explain why you'd not just use blood elves and maybe throw in high elves. Most of the work is already done anyway.

It's more of the same "we the devs know best we don't care what you want or like"
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>>747937818
Ok sorry
Nagaborne, snowflake Naga that rebelled against azshara and regained elf forms but with some egregiously high definition sea themed attachments and scales
Underwater breathing, swim speed. Armour bonus and dodge cos fish are slippery
2% frost damage added to all attacks and spells
Active ability is just frost nova for everyone, seems balanced
And they do a tiktok dance that shows how far the technical skills of the animation team has fallen.
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>all you have to do is copypaste private server content
>fail to do so
>millenials rush to play a shittier version of the game, parsing lvl20 content

There is not any other company which can fall upward this hard. The woman who makes pilgrimage anniversaries where she was raped is less fucked than you guys.
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>>747937818
indeed. asking the multi-billion dollar company to do work is asking a lot, for sure.
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>>747935672
It's a grammatical error that's almost exclusive to native English speakers.
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>>747938012
>Active ability is just frost nova for everyone, seems balanced
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>>747918265
This. Worgen are the coolest race in WoW and I hope they'll just add them later on.
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>>747938231
Shoulda woulda coulda
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>>747937273
honest answer: they are charging for races, and women/asians dont play ugly beast races.
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>>747938327
Maybe they coulda made them sexy Nagas
But you're right, it's estimated women make up around 35%~ of WoW's playerbase and they all almost exclusively play some flavor of Elf or Human
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>>747938327
Yeah, it's unfortunate. Just another retail.
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>>747928883
Best I can give you is their non binary cousins designed by a gayfurry.
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>>747937839
Yeah retail has the retcon elf troll things, the sky guys are just the same things.
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>>747918094
Why you need new race? The way I would do it that in future if there is death knight coming that is then the new "race" that is something between human/undead and that is then split into alliance/horde similarly as the blue fags. Or the easiest and best would probably just be to do the high elves that everyone actually wanted.
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>>747938468
death knight would be gay, they should try something new
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>>747918772
>centaurs for horde
Spoken like a true dumb idiot, we slaughter them in droves.
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>>747938468
Because if you are building a new WoW you might as well add the things you want at the beginning instead of stringing it out down the road. Use your imagination, do what you've always wanted, shake it up.

Or not, add a blue elf.



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