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Where Did All the Money Go?


https://x.com/MisterSpace3/status/2100495786450506099
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It all goes to the 20 layers of management that don't actually do any work. Once organizations mature they are stuck with a bunch of pointless middle men who don't actually do anything they just suck up funds and slow things down
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twitter shitters should be all rangebanned from making threads
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>>747936015
Triple A gaming is a money laundering scheme.
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Since this is a trash thread I'm just going to put it out there that Wolverine's costume has always been hot garbage and he's better in plain clothes.
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Giving incompetent (women) people a bunch of money won't result in well made games.
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>>747936124
Finally, someone who gets it
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>>747936015
I ated it
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>>747936015
Consultation fees
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Its a laundering scheme. Xmen Origins had a significant fraction of that and looks and plays better. You could make a stylized Wolverine game with 30 million dollars.
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>>747936015
NOOOO STOP MOCKING WOOLERINE!
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Its weird they feel more fragile today than yesterday, were the fake sales numbers debunked?
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>>747936015
To the Japanese soaplands.
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>>747936901
>western devs hate Japan but travelled to Japan for a glorified babysitting expedition
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someone needs to fucking audit sony/insomniac immediately
malfeasance/embezzlement is surely going on over there
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>>747936015
Money laundering and buying a new island to relocate Jeffrey Epstein.
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>>747936015
Crazy how quickly Playstation studios died when Shuhei Yoshida left
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>>747936248
Holy fucking shit it’s fucking wolversneed aka sneedarine my prayers have been answered
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Sneedarine
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>>747936901
>Luxury trip w/ Sony's money, disguised as research
Ingenious.
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>>747936015
I feel like they should start forcing these company to lay out what the fuck are in these gorillions dollar budgets
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>>747937514
Rather antisemitic of you, your mother and father would be ashamed
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It's obvious if you remember the insomniac leak.
They fucked up the game's development incredibly hard and had to put it back together from what scraps they had finished enough.

Still wasn't ever going to be a good game though.
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>>747936015
"Consultants", then the Indians and Chinese get the usual wageslaves to shit out cheap code.
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I wonder how people will react if gta has even one bug like that on release. Even if its lîely to be patched in the first week
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>>747936686
The style isn’t the problem, it’s the shitty developers.
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>>747936124
You forgot studios and offices with needless expenses like cafeterias staffed with in house cooks, break rooms with ping pong and foosball tables, expansive offices for management with scenic window views, and conference rooms with conference rooms with tables made from either teak or mahogany. Purely necessary business expenses of course
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>>747936015
Marvel money.
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>>747937207
That's totally it. I abhor this kind of waste of money .
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It’s a good game, just not a revolutionary leap for the capeshit game medium like Spiderman PS4 or Arkham Asylum was.
In that sense, yes it is disappointing that so much time, hype, and resources went into creating something that you’ll play and likely forget in a few weeks, but a lot of modern media is like that, so whatever.
I wish they sold this at a lower price point like Miles Morales.
Or even more, I wish they made an actual X-men game.
But a 6-7/10 is fine junk food every so often while in between more impactful titles.
I know time is limited and you can ultimately choose how to spend it on hobbies, but a 10-15 hour romp over the weekend isn’t hurting me.
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In the first place, why Wolverine now? The Deadpool movie came out years ago.
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It's getting outsold by Fire Emblem on Gamestop and Amazon
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Unironically some fucky "Producers" style moneygames going on. They spent at least 100 million on marketing, but magically forget to buy off IGN? With a budget this big there was almost no chance they'd be able to break even at launch, which is when most normies buy.
Sony America is supposed to be on relatively thin ice with Sony japan in regards to performance so why break the business model?
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>>747936124
Hey don't forget the slimy marketing people
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>>747943741
this is a lead-in to an X-Men game, when we just got a movie lead-in to the X-Men film, fresh off the second season of an X-Men cartoon. You tell me
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>>747936124
I'm leaving higher education after 16 year and it's literally the fucking same. Just a bunch of whiny fucks in a room arguing about semantics when the actual researcher and system administrators are treated as things to "keep in mind" rather than the actual people making the fucking project happen. The number of times I have said "Planning to Plan" in the past six months is staggering. People with marketing and business backgrounds are the fucking worst. They "create work" by doing everything but the actual project they've been assigned. They don't have deliverables or considerations of what a minimum viable product even looks like because they haven't expended a lick of mental effort even considering.
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>>747936015
Anyone with a brain will know that this is a money laundering scheme just like any other modern AAA game.
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a single decade old gpu running a local open weights model can one shot better water simulation in a couple of hours than what insomniac shipped in wolverine after 6 years of development
thanks to china we will soon be blasting off with our own personalized AAA movie games
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>>747936015
people keep asking this. its really simple. 200 mill on marketing, 50 mill to the management, and 50 mill to indians making the game
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>>747936901
And the rewrites. The story was a lot different before the original creative lead left.
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>>747936015
You can say what you want about Japanese games

YOU NEVER SEE BROKEN SHIT LIKE THIS in any of their games
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>>747936901
These faggy high faluting big priests of morality prob went there to bang some Japanese loli looking girls at soaplands. I see you disingenuous fucks
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>>747936124
>middle men
Middle women. The solution to the gender pay gap caused by men being willing to do harder, more dangerous work, is to invent useless management jobs for women and then pay them an ungodly amount of money to do nothing all day.
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>>747945250
Pokemon SV
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>>747936124
i'm collecting unemployment and my "project manager" guildmate has about the same amount of game time as i have
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>>747945250
The game Left Alive, which was so bad square enix gave out refunds and pulled the game from store shelves.
The game director, who was the main producer of the armored core games all the way to fucking verdict day, got ran out the industry and hasnt worked on a single game since.
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>>747936015
The basis of money laundering involves spending money on a product or service that does not even exist. Since hundreds of millions are involved in laundering through games, the game must actually exist to justify the expenses, however, only a fraction of the funds is spent on production, while the rest is siphoned off.
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>>747945250
They do, but they usually get excommunicated from the industry for making garbage like this.
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>>747936124
>>747945491
Womanagement.
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>>747945182
>7 different women playable sections
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>>747936015
Japanese Hookers and Blow
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>>747946125
Jean is a better choice than MJ because she actually has super powers.
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>>747943397
>needless expenses like cafeterias staffed with in house cooks, break rooms with ping pong and foosball tables, expansive offices for management with scenic window views, and conference rooms with conference rooms with tables made from either teak or mahogany.
outside of the cooks all of these things are peanuts in terms of expenses.
Salaries and real estate are are the most relevant cost positions, "stuff" is cheap.
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>>747946991
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>>747936901
Meanwhile back in the day capcom could send one guy to spain with a camera and he would have enough reference material to make an entire game with
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>>747936015
>Where Did All the Money Go?
reminder that it cost only a million dollars to make the OG Final Fantasy VII back in 1997.
and squaresoft made 385 billion dollars on it in profits.
reminder that because of that their subdivision Squaresoft Hawaii became half of Hawaiis economy overnight.

and then they became 10x the size of any local american when that subdivision went on to made Final Fantasy 9.
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All that corpo money comes from your taxes, btw.
How do you think they keep rolling after trillions and trillions of dollars in losses over the past decade without even slowing down or changing direction?
They haven't lost a dime. You paid for all of it.

This is what those "black budgets" in your government are really about. Not secret military sci fi lasers and robots, it's astroturfing the economy for your propagandizing.
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>>747936901
Can you blame them?
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>>747936015
You know I actually really appreciate wolverine, because now people know what actual dogshit failure looks like, it's not TLOU2 where it's actually a masterpiece that takes creative risks and delivers a polished and well executed experience, but still gets killed by casuals, no it's a game that casuals and diehard gamers alike absolutely despise because it is shittily designed and unpolished
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>>747936015
Marketing
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>>747947537
>TLOU2 where it's actually a masterpiece
lol
lmao
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>>747936015
>Where Did All the Money Go?
Went up in a blast.
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>it's not TLOU2 where it's actually a masterpiece that takes creative risks and delivers a polished and well executed experience,
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Embezzled
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>>747945250
>YOU NEVER SEE BROKEN SHIT LIKE THIS in any of their games
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>>747947524
Yes
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>>747945250
Imagine if Platinum Games made Wolverine.
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>A 1st party studio owned by a Japanese corporation pays to fly its US workforce and scanning equipment on a trip Japan to take photos locations instead of having someone from Japan do it for them and email the photos/scans.
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>makes 33 gorillion dollars
>vanishes from the public eye
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>>747948231
>made nothing
>quietly disappears before anyone bothered to expose the grift
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>>747948004
>X, Y
>X,X,Y
>X,X,X,Y
>Hold Y
>Jump+X,X,Y
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>>747944682
>>747936124
https://youtube.com/shorts/NyHhdf6aVJM?is=4Jn8wBqNgwOjKJ4W
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>>747948323
>button complexity is what makes a good game!
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>>747948231
they're making enough to fund expedition 34-40 off the concert tour by itself
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>>747948323
>pic related
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this is simply what happens when you dont hire based on talent
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>>747948394
Y+B to execute this anon
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>>747946991
focus w
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>>747936015
Everyone is fucking laughing at us Sonybros, I can't take. I'm literally shaking right now.
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Y B

heh, nuthin personell.........
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>>747947846
They mean on the actual hardware, not garbo emulators. I've noticed the Switch 2 exclusives have "magically" stopped having many bugs, even Gamefreak's own Pokopia.
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>>747948004
Platinum is working on an adaptation of The Last Ronin instead.
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>>747948689
Gamefreak didn’t make Pokopia.
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>>747936973
Correction: They love Japan but they hate the Japanese. They want to replace the Japanese with people like themselves INDIANS but are unable to do so because the Japanese government actually has a spine, so they waged a long term culture war to subvert the country for several generations to gain a toehold.
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>>747948958
>Gamefreak didn’t make Pokopia.

Yeah they did
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>>747949310
Nope. Omega Force made it.
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>>747936015
Chuds lost
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>>747936124
>middle MEN
That's not the issue here
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>>747936124
I wish, at least then I could get a do-nothing job too.
Sadly it's just useless womemes.
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>>747936581
>Finally
This was known literally for decades
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>Nope. Omega Force made it.

Wrong there's literal videos out there with Gamefreak showcasing the prototype they developed internally with all of the features. Omega Force were just co-developed it and were just helping complete it.
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>>747950536
Nope.
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>>747936015
Vegas Sphere
https://x.com/PlayStation/status/2100361616323916090
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>>747950637
Ok stay deluded. Just know when Winds/Waves comes out 99% of the launch "bugs" the Switch games supposedly had won't manifest. And it will only be because freeloaders can't play it on their toaster with a poorly coded emulator anymore.
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>Where Did All the Money Go?
At least 100 mill on marketing, yes they are that retarded
Another 100 to 150 mill on paying high executives and "consultants" like sweet baby inc
50 to 100 to paying middle managers, office supplies, corporate dinners, travel expenses to all the middle managers going to india or whetever third world developed for them, and renting offices
50 or maybe less paying the devs and the actual expenses to make the game
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>>747945250
Sonic 06
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>>747947430
For me is pic
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>>747944682
Every large organization is full of these parasites who contribute nothing and get paid well for it. They're not even leaders, they're just repeaters
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>>747947524
Yeah. Non white girls look weird
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>>747936015
I noticed Sony blew all their load agressively advertising Yotei. It was crazy to see all those adds on every website and public traffic.
Meanwhile Wolverine only gets shilled by sponsor streamers which backfired in most cases by giving the game even more bad reviews.
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>>747946694
How do the Jean sections work? You mind control all the enemies to make them gay, and then run through the level while they're making out?
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>>747936901
How much did it cost to make Assassin's Creed: Shadows?
If they did this much work on a realistic Japan, why wasn't it used as a selling point, like AC games do?
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>>747936975
>Implying Sony executives are on it
Anon, it's same with Hollywood, it's why they make sure the devs move to Cali, so they can overbloat the budget to ridiculous points, pocket the money and blame it on living expenses
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>>747936372
This. Any costune with vibrant yellow colors is garbage. You look like a clown and not a vietnam veteran
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>>747949827
>good sales = good game
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>>747945034
>200 mill on marketing
And yet not a penny of that went to bribing reviewers?
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>>747936248
look at him go dude
nice
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>>747946882
>real estate
Probably one of the biggest wastes to be honest. You've got studios and developers shelling out big cash for expensive offices and studios for developers who are more often than not going to insist on working from home or calling out regularly because they need their precious "mental health days". Just look at Bethesda's office. The lobby looks more like the entrance of a fucking hotel.
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>>747952651
He’s lying.



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