Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
I do not think the dust has settled
Is it worth playing extra for the beta or should I just play tbc or mop classic for a few weeks
I wanna have a wolf pet on my human female hunter but i'm worried that its just gonna make me wanna jerk off too much.
>>748070652The jews, the indians, and the chinese. In that order.
>>748070719just don't sub until it's out bro>but i'll miss outno you won't
>>748070758
They killed Turtle for this slop...
>>748070652It's pretty fun
>>748070652No Draenei
high elfnight elfblood elfvoid elfhighbornenightborneskyborne
WoW won.XIV lost. Cope and seethe and mald.
>>748071498>brings XIV out of nowhere
It's the best version of WoW and I love it
>>748070719give blizzard as little money as you are able you hopeless bastard.
>>748070652>neutral race in vanilla >$30 races in vanilla>removing stats from vanilla >obliterating the coop part of an MMO in vanillaI am convinced this is actually a couple devs spitefully wanting vanilla discussion dead forever.
>>748071618>>neutral race in vanilla They literally split and are divided now you dumb nigger>>$30 races in vanillaOnly way for them to get any money but yeah its cringe>>removing stats from vanilla They merged some and they were fucking cringe, fuck off and die nigger>>obliterating the coop part of an MMO in vanillaThat is still in you monkeybrained faggot, you still have to do shit together. fuck off and die nigger
>>748071618They regret and wish they didn't have the "war" in "warcraft"
>>748071163Octo is still going strong.
>>748071779>he paid the 30 bucks for a reskinPoint and laugh at this fag
>>748071779More nonsensical damage control by the indian shills. >HURR HURR ACTUALLY YOU HATED CLASSIC ITS BETTER THIS WAY
>>748070652Browns can't afford it and are having melties
>>748071163>My trooncoded pserver with a cashshop died waaaaaaah
>>748071273>want to play paladin>but I want to play draenei paladin>if there's even an inkling that they'll add draenei later on, I don't want to suffer paladin leveling twice>but I want to play paladinI'm in a bit of a bind
>>748071163
>>748071779>They merged some and they were fucking cringe, fuck off and die niggerYou mean they added retail stats and homogenized others like retail?
>>748071618>>obliterating the coop part of an MMO in vanillaI almost got slimed by the new elite kobold they added until a passing priest healed me through it (and I tanked for his turn), so the coop part is still there
>>748071779You cannot. Healers and tanks can no longer use coop in dungeons to level and have to solo level.Which goes into the other point that they made levelling easier, also going against vanilla design. Insults are the tools of the weak.
>>748071809People have no faith in themselves these days. If they have such big ideas they would be better off doing something new.
>>748071967>TrooncodedYoure paying a sub for this trooncoded (troon made too) shit
>>748072024Dungeons have been destroyed. You can no longer use them to level if you're playing a tank or healer, just because some mages were abusing them. Its illogical and stupid design attempting to "fix" a non-issue.
>>748070652they thought classic players would want a bright neon colored sparkledog tranny elf race that is completely unrelated to any existing lore
>>748072039New ideas and all that shit don't sell nowadays unless it has big brand or IP name attached to it or is a sequel to something.
>>748072071good>pick up dungeon quests>run through the dungeon completing the quests>get back out into the world
I think it's a good thing they outright rejected the idea of bringing outland stuff into forever if only because most of the things that happened in that world, happened in the dumbest ways possible
>>748072051I bet he'd also be buying gold for his forever gdkps
>>748072051Looks fine to me
>>748072071spamming levels in an instanced area is the most antisocial thing you can do in an mmo though...?dungeon quest xp has been increased to compensate. i went from 5% 15 to just over 20% 16 just from hall of thanes turn ins
>>748072114They're crazy when they expect it to steal the top spot right off the bat.
>>748072295It's what Mr.Shekelstein demands and what easier way to attempt that by making it a known IP
>>748072178>Purple haired blue second life character Yeah, youre a troon as well
>>748072184>spamming levels in an instanced area is the most antisocial thing you can do in an mmo though...?No, layering is lmao
>>748072432They're all curcimsteins anyways, if their personal project doesn't work out they can just take an interest free loan and gamble until they make it back.
>>748072436Ok pablo, keep crying about turtle wow dying
>>748072178Only goofy ass races like Gnomes should have pink hair option. This newfag race is retail shit
>>748070719i'm having a lot of fun in beta. i would not play tbc or era hardcorfe again. after being in beta shit feels smoooooooooth. fps decaying over time is ass though
>>748070719why would you pay extra to play the beta of a game that will get wiped when it officially releases
>>748071904jeets and pserfs are the doomers. literally private servers are thirdies. cannot afford. in the wowfg general yesterday some indo gold farmer freaked out posted hand and some indo docs getting mad because they were limiting RMT heavily
>>748070719just wait, what's the point of playing up to level 30 and having you character wiped afterwards AND you have to pay for it
>>748072854wow fags will tell you fun but really they're just coping with being mazed eternally and butt raped by the ghost of kotick
Skyborne are white coded
For the horde!OwOUwU
>Market game as Classic Plus>It's Retail Minus
thankfully they will ban HR
>>748070652Nothing, it's universally loved
>>748072827>literally private servers are thirdies. cannot afford.ESL jeet lmao
Not playing wow makes you brown coded. It's all third world trash coping because they can't afford it
>>748073187I like when I load into the game and a chinese gold farmer is trying to sell me gold.
>>748072960when are these getting added?
why do retailsloppers love to pretend that retail isn't filled to the brim with the "thirdies"?
How many attempts has Blizzard had at doing the Vanilla experience by now? There was classic, rolling expansions, seasons of exploration, etc. I wonder if there are still live Blizz servers for each of those niches with 100 players each
>>748073263why do private turders whinge so much?
>>748073187larping that playing a specific game makes you a desirable skintone is something dreamt up by someone truly brown, something you wanna admit to us rajesh?
>>748073414ps players aren't the ones calling everyone they don't like as thirdies here, thirdie
delete the jeet
>>748073486Who is your CEO timmy?
>>748070652>Remove Regions in favor of dynamic scaling shards>Still spend 30min getting a raid group together>Go raid>Group spawned in different instances>We literally can't see each other except for the minimap>/target kept saying player is in another instance or some shitHoly fuck, who asked for regions to be replaced
I, a brown man, will call others a shitskin to constantly reassure myself that I'm honorary white
>>748073543what's your caste, i bet its not very high
poopoo india
>>748073562kshatriyayou dalit?
>>748073562>>748073593man the internet really is turning into all indians.
play forever and leave those shitty pservers you fuckin benchods
>>748073187or maybe I always thought it looked boring as fuck
>>748070652You can't ever "go home" again and trusting troons and fags to develop content for the classic version of WoW is pretty fucking retarded. Case in point, the Blueberry Elves.
>>748071550They've been doing it since Legion. Nobody is more insecure than a WoW lifer.
>>748073667my fav pserver nuked the site and closed registration to keep the refugees outwe chilling
>>748070652should have said "settled forever"
>>748073635the classic experience can’t be captured anymore unless you join a whites-only guild
>Blast status?>All the streamers shilling this in videos and posts look dead inside as they actually play itNot sure what to make of that.
>>748073454Only ps turdies are here trying to dissuade people from playing the superior game
>>748073187Wiggers and niggers always hated WoW
>>748073690they added cameltoe to the new race (not joking)
>>748073508i dont play jeetsoft games.
>>748074097No you only play on some shit stinking private server hosted in a god forsaken place full of p2w shops
>>748070652>what went wrong?Skyelves having the same model as belves and not having their own models with yuge jiggly boobies.Also, no dark elves. No, recoloring blood elves doesn't count.
>>748071779>only way for them to make moneywhat about the 15 dollars a pop (they probably get closer to 10 though) montly from everyone playing.Assuming 100k players that is atleast 10mil a year, you are telling me that is not enough to cover development and server costs?
I've got a story for all you guys involving my 9070xt and playing the beta>Download beta, make Troll warrior, ready to play>seems like my entire computer is going to crash when I hit enter world>same thing happens when I use a hearthstone>fiddle with all the settings to see if theres anything wrong with anything else>Everything seems I can run the game at max at 120 fps>Just a assume it a bug that needs fixed>take Zeppelin to under city>Game crashes harder then it ever has before>Screen goes black, headphones play strange noises, monitor freezes>Game closes itself>screen stays black and second monitor turns to 768p>"woah">restart PC>Only one monitor is working and its still displaying 768p>do some digging and find out my Drivers have been DESTROYED>have to use AMD clean up tool tk delete and reinstall themIts back to normal now but it freaked me out, turns out if you have the "second lighting" setting anything higher then fair on a non-nibida gpu theres a good chance the game will crash. Apparently apple players couldn't even load in with using that setting.Its weird because my gpu could definitely handle the highest setting when I moved it up to it, I guess it just can't handle all happening at once? Anyway I guess thats a point for nivida, if you buy them you can just expect things to work because they are built specifically for it.
>>748074147poopoo
>>748074197>Assuming 100k players that is atleast 10mil a yearThat's how much a big gacha makes in a bad month.
>>748074259suki kurwa play on my private turd server i dont want to be alone
>>748074229>turns out if you have the "second lighting" setting anything higher then fair on a non-nibida gpu theres a good chance the game will crashradeon goys never fail to amuse
>>748070652Quite literally nothing. It's exactly what we wanted.
Bigger than classic... Blizzard won...
>>748073879Do wow streamers ever not look dead inside?
>>748070652>what went wrong?>people like the game the way it used to be, without all the changes that made the game shit>lets give them a version of that game>people like it, but they want new stuff>lets give them classic but with new stuff>lets add forsaken paladins>now lets add all those changes that made the game shit>wait why does everybody hate the game, we gave you just what you wanted>you just dont know what you want
>>748074229You should report that to blizzard. Is 120 fps so much better than 60 though?
>>748074323
>>748074424This bitch is responsible for what WoW has become.
>>748074229this game was released in 2004
>>748074229All this just for better looking lightning lol, kinda weird how shitty the game runs.
>>748074424>me thinksyou're an elderly woman, stop talking like a cringe zoomer
>>748074637holly needs a hard cock in her ass
>>748074424I have strong doubts that a white middle aged woman can run a warcraft game but sometimes lightning strikes twice in the same spot.
>>748074468>you just dont know what you wantThey're right, it's an unpleasable fanbase they have to put up with
>tfw you decide to go on a scenic route into the plaguelands
>>748073520What raid are you doing at lvl 20?
juxtaposition between HD and SD models is stupid and stands out like a sore thumbthey fucked it up from the get-go and its not fucked because blizzard will never fix itunironically makes some private servers look like higher quality
>>748070652>what went wrong?I'd need an entire thread for that, but sure, let's give it a whirl.>Not Classic+, but '~Forever~,' meaning it will be stagnant forever - in an effort to do the minimal effort, they're starting with their foot in their mouth by admitting there's no room for growth aside from numbers>The main draw that brings people back to Classic previously after the first wave already petered out, changes like Hardcore which was shit and people still hyped over it, is just 'New race no one asked for'>Bringing all the dumb retail shit that people probably want to not be in their new Classic over, as though they're not trying to escape retail WoW>Additional quests that can be completed solo, which does not address the elephant in the room for the past 4 expansions of players not having enough reason to interact>In fact nothing done encourages more player interaction, with the exception of scant few profession additions meaning there's more stuff to craft you might want/need to buy off the auction house>ONE FUCKING SERVER WITH SHARDING - Sure can't wait for the other 2500 players ahead of you to log off before you can play the game you paid extra for>Also sharing the ping from the entire world, as an extra kick in the taint>Graphical updates that boil down to adding fog, upscaling textures, and using the models and skeletons that people had to petition for Blizzard to change in retail since they were so unliked>Balance changes from Classic which, again, defeats the purpose of making this 'Classic Forever' if it's not going to be classical>Unique faction/classes combos are gone now, too, so both sides are even more exactly the same than before>That stupid blue face in every thread just looks like what an AI could accidentally make when making a Night Elf, since it has no notable features and is literally just a blue elf that doesn't even need to be blueOh, and it's also already been overtaken by bots, literally days after it launched.
>>748074847I got to Brill yesterday while it was raining, what peak comfy
The private server shysters ITT fail to grasp the full extent of how blizz absolutely killed it with this beta. They've taken everything that sucks about vanilla out of the game and only added good things.
>>748074229>apple players???????? its 2026
>>748074468not everyone hates the game though. i know some people that havent played classic since like 2006 and they think its amazing.I do wish the balancing was different but its whatever. ill probably do what i did on classic: get a character to 60 and raid 2 weeks then randomly never log in again i still feel bad for winning onslaught girdle for my warrior then never logging in again without saying anything to my guild
>>748074424chuds... is it over? a woman taking us home....
>>748074941I wonder what talent trees which were in the same line as classic would have looked like. Like what if they were doing classic+ but for real, adding talents and spells that would really go for the classic class design concepts instead of copy pasting retail playstyle.
>>748074941>nothing done encourages more player interactionI love how you completely ignored the new campfire system, proves you haven't played the beta at all - also the graphical changes ARE good and it's been widely praised across the community (though you wouldn't know that because you only check 4chan and reddit)
>>748072854I want to see the new race and new starting zone, but I also want to level a horde mage first. I can now do the new race in the beta while not falling behind my friends once the real game comes out.
wow4 when
>>748075634>dude the campfire system is going to be so social and bring players together in comfy settings>the reality is people just see a campfire and sit there to get the buff in silence then fuck off to what they actually want to be doingGreat.
>>748075634>the graphical changes ARE good and it's been widely praised across the communityYou can literally see that isn't true by looking at your screen.>>748074924>>748074616>>748074229
>>748075746>buff in silence>completely ignoring people talking over discord>completely ignoring people talking about their adventures>completely ignoring people talking about upcoming raids/dungeon/pvp plansthis game isn't for you trooncel, go back to your singleplayer slopfests
>>748076215Nobody will do that.
I was kinda amazed at how phoned in the camping mechanic is. They're just random assets, the skinners chair is just a fucking wooden chair instead of a leather camp stool or something.
>>748073954Yeah because it's nerd shit. Me and the homies out robbing stores, getting crunk and getting bitches n shiet back in 2005
>>748074424Reminder that these idiots paid $60 to betatest for a month.
>>748074424Release the sub numbers then bitch
>>748073673Try playing the game! Watching any game is boring. Only commentary makes watching fun.
>>748070758That's knot gonna be a problem.
>>748076934They don't have to. It's already twice as big as classic
>>748077013lol sure it is
Name + last name is dumb
>>748074510Literally saved WoW lmao
>alexensual is backMaybe forever is actually good?!
still waiting for the fog to settle
>>748077817cant you just remove it?
RetailGawds and True Classic Patriots are shitting on this abominationNo one but streamers want this shit
>>748077763Now they just release a buggy patch every 8 weeks. Wew.
>>748070652>Women are allowed to be hot again.>Restored all the censored and cut "problematic" content.>Started an alternative timeline and retconned out all the moronic story decisions.I can't wait until November.
>>748070652wow lost to nortubel
>>748077890>retconned out all the moronic story decisionsMy brother, you have Undead Paladins running around eating corpses
>>748072051>>748072436>>748072672>Brown third worlders who can't afford a subscription still seething.And you've never played the games, retard. Night Elves can have pink hair since Day 1.
>>748070652It's low effort. That's the main problem.They are burning all the manpower on retail with its "It's so convenient, you never have to interact with anyone!" bullshit.
>>748074729>A woman created the Legacy of Kain/Blood Omen franchise.>A woman created the Uncharted franchise.>A woman created the Last of Us franchise, despite what Druckman may claim.There is precedent.
>>748077763>slop answeris this the power of the modern blizzdrone
>>748077921Yeah, it's not as though there already was one in Vanilla, right?
>Reddit drones already shit on it for being too retail. Especially everything around reskin elves and their story telling.It's already over. After the initial hype dies and all the clinically depressed millennials fuck off, because the new slop didn't fill that void in their chest, WoW forever will die within 6 months as people realize the game has the same exact issues classic had (awful community) with a ton of new issues added (retail writing and design including lack of realms)
>>748070652>what went wrong?fuck blizzard, I unsubbed after the Blizzcon because there wasn't a single word about MoP/Wod Classic and its future, so it basically means they are killing it.Why should I play any longer, unsubbed and wrote them a nice reason why I unsubbed they will never forget.
>>748077921gameplay and story segregation, bro. are you going to throw a hissy fit over undead priests being allowed to spec holy when in canon they can't use holy magic without extreme, full-body, agonizing pain because it makes them feel their bodies rotting away?
>>748078135how do you "unsub"?
>>748078154It's the same shit as Tauren Rogue. It's retarded
>makes retoilets dilate>makes classic uncs have a meltdown>makes /v/edditors mad that WoW is popular and good againYeap, Forever won bigly
>>748078423eh, if the grimtotem can have rogues i don't see why the player tauren can't. it's stupid to be sure but it already exists in the game.
>>748078485They also reverted all the censorship that's still present in Classic.
>>748073413In the end it wasn't>you think you do but you don'tit was>we think we do but we don't have any damn idea how
>>748077883And it turns out that's what people want. Don't make a big thing up front and then nothing for a year, drip feed small parts over the course of a year and make iterative changes. Players not only feel like there's "always something new" the fact there's less at any given time means they don't feel overwhelmed by a checklist of things they "need" to do right now.
>>748079301I think that's also why they're spreading out introducing new races - so that people can both start new characters and that newcomers have an additional incentive.
>>748076790most people (at least people who aren't complete paypigs) just caused 10 dollars worth of food waste in australia dough
>>748076790Ranjesh, let me disclose something for you. 60$ might be a month's salary in your country, but in most white ones it's, at most, a few hours worth of a salary.
>>748078423Tauren have many scouts and similar classes with stealth capabilities, especially in the rpg books which were canon at the time of classic wow. There's no reason they shouldn't be able to be rogues
>>748070652It's a game made by nublizz and it reeks of nublizz. They completely missed the mark on what makes classic feel like classic. Once the honeymoon period is over you're going to see that all the current streamer shills who are gushing over Forever will flip the script and realize that I'm right.
>>748074473Yes
What went wrong is I got all the way to level 8, looked back on what I'd been doing for the past couple hours, and thought "Oh yeah, that's why retail exists, this shit is bad and boring."
>>748070652I do think they know how much porn was created with darenais. The bluish hue is OK to go.
>>748071882It's literally malware lmao
>>748077921Not worse then fighting a raid boss at lvl 10 like the blue elfs
crazy how easy hunter isand aimed shot is a total trap. doesnt do more damage than an arcane shot (arcane is magical so it ignores armor too), costs 50% more mana and you lose an autoattack in the process of casting it. pointless even with the skills that would boost skill damage in the MM tree, since those same ones would be boosting arcane shot too. and then they want you to take a 6 second cast version as the cap stone. no thanks
>>748070652>Retail WoW will die in 1 monthThe sunk cost fags are already losing their mind in the forums
>>748081561>and you lose an autoattack in the process of casting itThis is why you weave it between autos. Even back in 2004 it was understood that Aimed/Multishot delayed your auto attacks so it was vital to use them between autos to maximize DPS.
>>748081645forever aka retail lite is much more likely to die than the game with two decades worth of sunken cost behind it
>>748081659its a 2 second cast. that 2 seconds is making you lose one 1.8 second shot with a gun so youre essentially paying 75 mana to add 20 damage to an autoattack. Id rather reapply serpent sting
>>748081720It doesn't eat autos, it delays them at worst. Having a fast weapon is not ideal for a hunter but if you were playing with the AA timer enabled you could at least realistically be hitting it at 0.1s of the auto which would cause you to lose 0.3s of auto attacks.
It looks pretty good apart from the fucking lame layers but I was hoping the classes were going to be radically changed from classic. Going to make an orc enhance shaman with engineering/mining and have a comfy winter questing and killing gnomes.
>>748080010It's an 8ft cow with hooves bro.
>>748081996bro, draenei??
>>748082131Can't be rogues eitherCept maybe in retoilet
>>748070652Blizzard said they learnt from what worked and what didn't work in SoD but apparently they didn't. Waste of time.
>>748081996So? Rogues are invisible in middle of the day on an open field whether they are gnomes or trolls, or decomposing smelly corpses. Having hooves is somehow going too far? Btw trolls are taller than tauren when standing upright
>>748082529Good thing rogues don't stand upright.
Shadowmeld should have been a base hunter ability
>>748082456nobody cares what you think xivvie you think gameplay is listening to npcs yap and then having pretend sex with other grown ass men wearing their grandma's clothes (she/they)
>paid beta with monthly fee>still gets wiped on releaseAnyone paying for this is ill
>>748082905you are poor and brown and missing outgo cope about how 60 dollars is a king's ransom in your local third world shitcoin
>>748082905I wanted to reserve my name
>>748083126if you need to reserve your name, your name is probably shit
XIVGAWDS, OSRSCHADS AND RETAILBROS ARE LAUGHING AT FOREVERSISTERS
beta bros, join <wowfg> on PvP Horde! guild open to all anons so that we can explore Azeroth together, currently at 26 members and 5 online. Here is a video of us clearing the Ruins of Lordaeron https://streamable.com/r5tg6w (spoilers for dungeon), whisper anyone to join: /who g-"wowfg"
>>748070719No, it's not worth it. Wait until launch or you'll burnout from doing it again.
>>748083173If you don't need to reserve your name, it's probably some gayass shit like xXxSonic_FartbagxXx you thought was epic and unique
imma 1 class it anyways, reached lvl 20 and nothing to do left. no reason to go hard with fishing/pre questing. could try blue elf start area (doubt its good, hated the belf one), or another class but might as well call it here till the next phase. short beta
>>748070652It's literally just vanilla
>>748082854Trying too hard
>>748082962Horrible falseflag or utterly retarded?
>>748083314it's not but nice cope. if you search the wow armory for all my characters you only get the one hit for each and every one of them. keep coping though Legolas Windrunner.
>>748083372its vanilla made way easier for new players
>>748081645Retail is closer to classic wow than whatever the fuck forever is
>>748083442Vanilla was never hard
>>748083372It has almost nothing in common with vanilla
>>748083443This. Blizzard will literally do anything but undo the giant shit on the world that was Cataclysm.
>>748083469no shit but tricky and had lots ada of death trap quests. all the trickery is gone
>>748081996Stealth in the warcraft universe isn't being in the shadows or standing behind a bush, you literally become invisible. I'm not joking.
>>748083395It's definitely xXxSonic_FartbagxXx
>>748081561>Have to wait till 30 for Survival melee to even startSucks>>748081720Need to go to WC and get Venom Strike. With a slow bow Aimed Shot won't eat your autos.
>>748083590Whatever makes you sleep at night, Legolas Windrunner.Just remember that's not a woman you're seeing in the mirror.
>>748074171wild to know even if this design was to exist, all of you fags would be calling this a troon
>>748083697not a single person even replied to that post let alone accuse it of being tranny-codedtake your meds NOW
>>748083651(you will never be White, xXxSonic_FartbagxXx)
>>748083385Worse, a jeetoid
>>748070652the sky elves are shit but that's metzen's fault mainlythe success of forever so far should be enough for blizz executives to fuck off and let the classic devs run it how they want
>>748083757thats why I said if it WAS to existyou know, beyond concept art? don't pretend as if you fags don't cry tranny when a woman has a jaw line in any capacity
>>748070652They killed Ascension and Turtle to make a worse version of both
>>748082456WoW could literally have an event where trans Darkspear trolls give out daily quests to fuck me in the ass, and it would still be less gay than XIV
>>748070652>Now that the dust has settledWhat the fuck do you mean? It hasn't even come out yet.
Tauren running around in circles on the lift to keep plainsrunning up kek
>>748072739>fps decaying over timewhat do you mean?
what were they thinking with this fog
>>748085914here is fog off, which do you prefer
>>748074941All this, and the truth is Blizz had one shot for keeping Classic lasting longer ala Runescape and that was its relaunch in 2019 or whenever. But all they're really interested in are pump and dumps
>>748085908There's a memory leak
>>748085801cant u just toggle rp walk
>>748086038Nah, they should have gotten ready for classic plus for the anni servers. '19 classic should have ended at WrathNo changes was the dominant narrative in 2019 by a big margin
>>748085983Once you turn the fog off, you can see the disneyfied textures on the hills, and that's the problem.
>>748070652it's literally retail and I got a refund. they should have used the classic client and skipped the chatgpt quests.
>>748073413Nublizz is incapable making anything as good as the original game so every attempt is a degradation that fans reject because they are hacks.
>>748086147A bad one too. Played for 4 hours straight yesterday and my FPS was down to 40
>>748070652https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3tjLN1JutU
the phasing shard shit makes grouping up with friends tedious and mobs i'm fighting vanishis it like that in normal retail?
>>748085983>>748086381Like most games, the fog kicks in too close to the player. They need to reserve the fog only for extremely far distances, not blanketting everything from 100 yards onward.Right now fog off plus draw distance down to about 4 is giving me the most classic like graphics, and you still get some of the new lighting effects
>>748086381As someone who has bad eyesight the top is like my vision without glasses and the bottom is with my glasses on.
>>748086739you get layer swapped if someone on a different layer invites you as you move to their layer
>>748073413Isnt this the first time it is somewhat high effort though? Like, re-releasing Vanilla is just whatever, and while I did not play SoD that one seemed like it could have been done by 2 random dudes in their free time.
>>748073413retail is just that dead and annoying to develop for that they've decided fuck it let's effectively make wow 2 starting over from classic
>>748071498/thread
>>748082292The most prominent and important draenei in lore is a rogue.
>>748084323>if it WAS to exist>beyond concept artthe game is called Kingdom under Fire and it's amazingone of the biggest lost potentials of its generation
>>748086828SoD actually had much more impactful gameplay changes. Forever just has much nicer graphics.
>>748087608SoD was unbalanced as fuck and Blizz take months to patch stupid things so you get everyone flocking to one or two classes each phase
>>748087876That's Blizzard's literal modus operandiDo you honestly think that's not how it's going to work in Forever?
>>748085914>>748085983Both are shit. The "fog off" here still has this "anti-soul gas"©. The fog should be more like in class engine, i.e. ZERO any volumetric shit close to the player, but at some distance fog rapidly starts to build up and quickly it becomes like a solid impenetrable wall of fog, EXCEPT there should be some things protruding from the fog. Such things should be declared by hand, by the artists and map designers, like the Hyjal tree or the hill silhouettes. The next gen graphics should be put into making the "fog wall" look more believable, not putting the auto-generated fog everyfuckingwhere. But obviously that's too much efforts. Much easier to add UE5-style volumetric shit and call it a day, it's not like wowdrones will complain.
>>748070652what went right?
>>748070719ask an aussie for a maccas code
>>748073187>he thinks playing reheated californian slop will make him a honorary AryanLOL? who convinced you of that, sanjay?
>>748088416I really hope blizzard fixes this before the launch
>>748088416it depends on the area, stv has no anti-soul gas with the fog off
>>748088857
>>748088416Just FOG my shit up, f a m.
>>748087660>big twitch metrics means game goodaverage blizztroon
>>748088662Everything except sky elves.
>>748088908love that you cant see sun but theres light on the water
>>748088964>everything>except sky elvesI bet.
>>748088979sar unreal engine default water is very good very very good
>>748088416And the funniest thing, retail already does all this shit with fog and whatsoever, and it still looks better than Forever abomination.
>>748089220And retoilet CAN look good. Without the Saareal Engine 5.
The best part about Forever has been the cascade of vapid shilling and cultlike reinforcement of "the right opinion" (to happily gobble up anything Blizzard puts on your plate)
i feel the gameplay for melee at least is soooooo slowlike theres 1,2 buttons to press the majority of time is spent waiting for your auto attack
>>748070652Blizzard made it.
>>748088960well clearly your little temper tantrums arent having any effect so go do something you like, hmm?as for me, enjoying the beta! I've already met some really cool people and we are going to make our own guild on release :)
>>748089720ret paladin?
>>748090248and warrior
>>748090131>well clearly your little temper tantrumsyou talking about the average forever shill having a melty as the lies and false hype crumble?
>running through silverpine to sfk>find sfk group>open mapevery time
>>748090541Thats why summoning stones are a MUST there's no point waiting 30+ minutes for everyone to do a 30+ minute dungeon for drops you might just not get at all
>>748079235Will they add pandas in the future? I need to see curvy panda women
>>748089720It's either that or schizo retail gameplay where you have near 100% GCD uptime with haste dropping the GCD even lower. Honestly, which would you rather have?
>>748090867why not something inbetweenwotlk felt good
>>748070652the only definitive things i've seen is that people feel the starting experience is a little smoother than vanilla which people seem to dislikefor me, priests getting Penance right off in SoD made the game far more enjoyable
Sorry, I can't hear you over my real Classic+ server
>>748070652The blue elves went wrong. Everything about them looks and is written straight out of retail. I don't understand what the fuck they were thinking by putting them in there
>>748085983>fog off summons a birdwoah ...
>>748070652Neutral race is stupid. You should be able to tell which faction a player is just by their silhouette. Having Alliance shaman and Horde Paladins is anti-soul. It hasn't even launched yet, and we're already getting Retoilet-quality design decisions.
>>748091271Yeah the double mirrored elf face on both factions on character creation screen is already enough to make me turn off the game. Faction identity dead from day 1
what the fuck is this shitwhere is the original quest UI?why does everything in this game feel like modern wow?
>>748091341it uses the retail client as the basis and that includes the ui
>>748091341It literally is the modern client modded for use with the vanilla world lel
>>748070652Why can't wow lower the xp rate? I think we are leveling up way too fast
>>748090131no you fuckin' won't, LARPer. it's a mishmash of players scattered all over the world stuffed inside a US serverthe beta is also full of retail trannies who don't speak to randos as well
>>748091318>the double mirrored elf face on both factionsThey really couldn't even be assed to make a second icon
>>748091436i think they will, all the extra xp shit they added plus the new quests is making it way too quick
>>748091341Because you're playing a retail adjacent game on a retail engine with retail assets LARPing (badly) as a classic game.Hell, the devs admitted they didn't even have any plans to add in original classic character models until they invited streamers and those made a big fuss about it.
>>748090623No, he should leave and find a group nearby.>>748091341>Complaining about retail UI while playing the retail race
you guys really got scammed into playing wow with a reshade.
>>748072051i look like right one :)
>>748091580>wow with a reshadetry wow with default unreal engine water and fog
Just the fact that the devs thought everyone wanted to play as the ugly modern models (old textures were added as a last minute after thought) shows how extremely out of touch they are. They have zero clue what they are doing.
>>748073263it's funny because they literally have their own servers and regional monopoly money currency to use in discounted prices, but the retarded shill keeps deflecting
>annoying fog>last names>retail frames>blue elves>poor performance >shards and layers
>>748090775Never.The Redemption Ark is Blizzard adding loli pandas race with no male/type1 option. Old hags are NPCs only.
>>748091697Well, they got people to play lazy reheated slop with assets decades apart awkwardly jammed into it.I'd say they won.
>>748074363It actually preset me to the highest setting of of secondary lighting, I didn't set it there myself.
>>748074473Some guy who's a way bigger tech nerd then I am already made a comprehensive post about it.
>>748091469I'm actually so angry about this, I want them to delete this race and give us just normal high elves for alliance and something else for horde NOW!!!
>>748091723just like the classic i remember
>>748070681Metaphorically speaking
>>748091369>>748091384>>748091534>>748091545That doesn't explain why they did it. It's supposed to be Classic. Normal Classic doesn't have that shit. I knew it would be pozzed but I didn't think they'd be quite that retarded.
>last names>retail babbies have forgotten about based Leroy Jenkins
>>748091974>It's supposed to be ClassicNo its not classic is still there fo ryou to enjoy this is forever, NOT classic
I'll stick to vanilla, thanks...
>>748070652lel'd
>>748091974I have a theory: It was never supposed to be classic. They made this as an alternate spinoff or "WoW 2" internally and only late in development decided to try and lure the classic crowd in and that's why so much feels like a baffling frankenstein mishmash
>>748070652>cute and friendly in cinematic>in-game have the same resting bitch face as BEslazy as fuck
>>748091469That portrait looks so bad and really stands out. The weird part is those are the newer, nublizz portraits yet even still they managed to make them stand out. The fuck is going on?
>>748091974It’s not classic hence the name
>streamer numbers were halved on the second day and now just days in they've halved again the SoD dooming is coming and the streamer shills will start their doomer cash in cycle soon enough
>ITT: brownoids seething over the fact they still can't afford a subscription OR to buy the new race
>>748091997>>748092083THEY SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THIS IS OUR CLASSIC+ AND THAT WE CAN EXPECT THE FEEL OF CLASSIC
>>748092110Every streamer is level capped. There's only so much new stuff they can actually do, other than sight seeing in high level zones
>>748092187Okay dude calm down no need to yell
>>748070652I havent been this excited for wow since its original release back 20 years ago. Retail is garbage and classic wow is filled with thr most autistic mentally ill people imaginable in a video game. Somehow worse than nintendo fanboys
>>74809197499% of classic players use some combination of questie, elvui, restedxp, Classic quest log, plater, leatrix maps. Out of all the valid complaints especially the new race looking like retail shit, people crying about the UI is retarded.
>>748092110good, everyone can fuck off, i dont want you faggots playing the game
>>748091974>That doesn't explain why they did it.sure it doesit's modern blizzardretail is what they do
>>748072051>Clear sexual dimorphism>Male skeleton 20% larger than female>female model has clear hourglass figureBro, this is the opposite. Go look at Sony games for what the opposite would be.
>>748086572>I can't raid!
>>748070719I'm not bothering with the demo. Looks like a shitshow. I will definitely play at launch when the player base is a little more spread out and all my work isn't for nothing.
>>748092223pretty much and the average WoW streamer is down bad and subsists on less than minimum wage, they will release doomie vids and desperately try to cash in as their launch audience dwindles even if it kills the game like in SoD because they're desperate vagrant e-beggers
>>748075705I mean go for it if you want to see the new eace so much, but quests in the barrens are still the same 20 years later not sure why you would be behind your friends, it's about who can put in the most hours grinding raptop claws
>>748092357>>Clear sexual dimorphismErm you meant to say clear difference between Body 1 and Body 2.
>>748092187Ok classic + (plus) NOT classic are you mentally retarded anon
>>748092110no wonder the shills in these threads are getting more and more hostile
Does anyone else fucking hate dad gamers? Nothing is more pathetic than seeing another man your age, act like he's some kind of snowflake just because he got a woman pregnant. Nigger, if you are a dad you do not belong in WoW. You fagots made the game casual in the first place.
>>748092539the jealously is louder than your juvenile racism
>>748074229Yeah, this pattern has been happening forever. Its because Nvidia puts out a new feature that they patented and game developers rush to add it in. I first ran into it with PhysX in Mirrors Edge. You just have to dig for the niche Nvidia feature and disable it. Then wait like 3 years for AMD to develop their own copy.
As a high elf purist, I want to relive the experience of being genocided.
>>748092539okay bub i have a work and 3 kids but i deserve to enjoy some games tooi dont have time after work and doing groceries and cooking to do some boring ass leveling, so i'm glad blizzard added level boosts so i can play the game without all the boring stuff
>>748092539They act real fucking smug for someone who gave up wizardry
>>748092223but the game has THOUSANDS of new quests????
>>748091997>>748092083>>748092284>>748092356retards
I will say the campfire mechanic is cute and comfy
>>748077763God, I hate how Claude talks. I use it for work, and it always uses this same, annoying cadence.
>>748092654Hope they add a banjo or something like that.
>>748092646You really don't understand that this is not classic do you
>>748074637To be fair, that's old English. I'd expect most people to only know of it from that Shakespeare quote.
>>748092539my wife (cis) is infertile due to a variety of health issues and thus I am allowed to be a perma man child
>>748092654I like walking around and seeing 5+ people huddled together around the campfire
>>748092595My dad bought a PC for my family in 1995. He played games like Red and Alert and Age of Empires and introduced me to gaming when I was a child. He never once identified as a dad gamer or shared with other people information about our lives. That's the difference between a real man (a boomer) and our new generations. He was more like the strong silent type. Not the neurotic emotional bitch like modern "dad gaymers." If you don't have the time maybe you should play a singleplayer game or something more casual. You are like the women who invade men's spaces and change them.
>>748091974>It's supposed to be Classic.It's not meant to be Classic, retard.It's going back to a point in the past and going down a different path.
>>748092646why am I a retard (last guy)this is what blizzard is nowall they can do is shovel retailslop
>>748071618>>obliterating the coop part of an MMO in vanillaThis is the biggest problem, nothing in this game is difficult.I just did the stolen silver raptor quest, and it was so easy. I remember previously spending so much time trying to approach from a safe angle, or being ultra strategic about pulls to get to the stolen silver strategically taking the camp apart over like 20 minutes.This time I just a-move'd through the camps solo without a care in the world. it was just too easy.
I'm tempted by the class changes and rush of group activity newness but the obvious retail infection puts me off.No way in hell would I ever consider XIV, rofl
>>748092539Nothing you say to us can hurt us. There is no pain this world can inflict on me that compares to the feeling of being a married wagecuck in 2026.
>>748091974It's retail -, retard.
>>748092772burp nah man i think i'm gonna play some wow i'm glad i can pay some money to get to the real content while the kids are asleephammers up
>>748092534It's funny how they always think it's not gonna happen this time, then it happens. There's no breaking the cycle it's like the rising moon and the setting sun. It's just a question of who's gonna doom first and steal all the views.
>>748092797This, it's not classic, it's classic sanitized and made digestible for Retail players who are vanilla-intolerant.
>>748070652>HP/MP regen is TOO DAMN HIGH, I never had to sit down to eat or drink even once, not even at lvl 20>I could easily kill every mob even while naked and the new gear makes the leveling/overworld feel exactly as weak as it does in retail>90% of the elites in the overwold are complete pushovers>All of the Rare mobs are as easy as the normal mobs>New dungeons are cool but the gear drops in them are arguably too strong for how common the drops seems to be>Gear scaling is TOO DAMN HIGH, if the devs keep up with the current gearing standard then everyone will be equally to Naxx geared before the first raid is released>"+2 fire damage while fighting fagons" is NOT a good way to scale the game horizontally at all unless they make VERY compelling arguments for players to care through encounter design>3 fucking days into the beta and bots are already EVERYWHERE, especially in the Tauren starting zone thanks to their new racial allowing them to PICK ANY HIGH LEVEL HERB even when they don't have herbs learned>Sky elves are such a fucking eyesore that I'd rather download a mod that turns them all into missing texture cubes than chance to look at them>The new client is laggy as FUCK for no god damned reason and has severe memory leaks (went from 10gigs of ram used to fucking 19 while traveling between Stormwind and Ironforge)The new quests are cool, the new dungeons are cool, the talent changes are cool, the new graphics are cool and there are some nice qol stuff they've done with the UI but almost everything else is worse than it is in Classic. I give the game 6 months tops of life before the servers are shut down or are turned into ghost towns
>>748092110what do people expect? It's the same fucking game for the last 20 years. It's boring to even play. I get bored before I can even level a character to 10.
>30 min lfg to run on instanceLE journey>5 min death run backLE journey>15 minutes walking to a new zoneLE journey>30 minutes crossing the map to run a dungeonLE journey>broken gear, another 20 minutes downtime to find a repairLE journey>5 minutes minimum for every flight pathLE journey>30 minutes afking in town leveling professionsLE journey is more important than LE destination, chuddie.
>>748092654too bad the endgame is still players in their own pocket dimension raid logging
>>748072091This is why us Classic chuds insisted on 'No Changes'. The current Blizzard can't be trusted to not make Retail 2, which is clearly what's happening here.
>>748093023you can't stop something that's inevitable just by screaming at it, basicallypeople are gonna turn around and shit on forever because of what it is. not the precious little phrases about how it's a forever home, not the quirk chungus girl pretending to be antisocial on stage saying this is TRUE to the classic visionthe actual moment to moment content, which has been crammed full of retailslop. it's not a myth, or some kinda inauthentic meme to mislead people. it's the reality of what forever isand it's settling in, and nothing can change that
>>748092523WoW was casual in the first place, retard. The "le classic WoW is le hardcore" larp is exhausting.
>>748091469look at all those shoyufaces god damn
>>748070719Buy australia mcdonalds and it werks
>>748093148>le le le Go back to that one place you faggot belong
>>748092624*half of which are just breadcrumb 'go here and talk to this guy'
>>748093148Zoom-zoom, go try to organize a 40 man raid or do the honor grind and get back to me.
>>748093096>NOOOOOOO I NEED TO BE MAX LEVEL NOW I NEED TO CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMSlow down son. Maybe socialize and relax a bit, it's not a race :)
>>748071894Paid 10 to mcdonalds lol
>>748070758Yo Assumi posts here?
>>748093051The hp/mana regen is exactly the same as vanilla, it just doesn't tickLook up a side by sideDidn't read the rest of your post after you got that wrong
>>748093230tedious =/= hard
So they wanted to bring draenei and blood elves into vanilla but then realized it would mess with the lore so they instead decided to apply the draenei skin into the blood elf model and call it a brand new race that was always there yet no one ever saw before?
>>748093051gotoclassicorretailthis is NOT classic
>>748070652>20 minutes doing a 2 minute quest in crowded areasLE journey>killing 20 extra mobs for one quest item LE journey>sitting to drink after every 2 two killsLE journey>"this quest requires you to travel to the other side of the map and back for 60 xp"LE journey>cleaning bags every 20 minutes of playingLE journey>escort questsLE journey>click every corpse to lootLE journey
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/weirdly-high-world-latency-on-wow-midnight-connection-outside-of-game-stable/2352875/145
>>748093232>NOOOO I CANT HAVE FUN WHILE LEVELING SLOWLY, IT MUST BE TEDIOUS AND REPETITIVE, LIKE THAT RL LIFE CAREER I NEVER HADtouch grass, incel :)
>>748083568making that canon in that cinematic was so fucking bad
>>748070652>we want classic and more of whats classic>get retail with wotlk talent tree and midnight talents and skills>oh and blood elves because thats what classic players wanted$30 with wow token coming in 6 months, pay up goyim
>>748093232the time wasting actions only exist stretch game time and thus monthly subscriptions and you know it
>>748093191>he can't understand LE irony
>>748093386The main objective was to give Horde elves for faction balance. Everything else was secondary.
>>748093485t.retoilet player who ports everywhere so he can race to sit in Silvermoon and battle the lfg interface for his 18 minute adhd experience
>can't sap and stay stealthed>no option to skill that in sub either like turtle wow didplease blizz
you can change gender at the barber
>>748093604You think you want classic elements but you don't
>>748093728Its baseline now, you dont need a talent for it. You'll just train it later.
>>748086381They didn't change the textures of the world though.
>>748093416These are all kino however. Don't you dare make them change this
>>748093236>ate slop to play slopgood cattle
>>748093769just like the classic i remember
>>748093769ok, they need to fix this, the artstyle clash is going crazy lmao
>>748093416yeah classicniggers love wasting time
>>748094130They put it into era classic because people demanded to be faggots they don't care.
>>748094130Thats where you draw the line?
>>748092539>raiding with dad gamers>self apponted gods at the game >start screaming and shitting their pants on mic SLOW DOWN SLOW DOWN when your threat goes over 40% when you're pushing your dps with cds for ten seconds>mic on at all times, kids make a ton of noises, wife comes in with annoyed voice to bother them and he sighs every fifteen minutes ruining the mood>takes no time to chill and enjoy the game, only about the spreadsheet sweatfestingI honestly don't get why they don't just play retail. Raids are too hard maybe or Vanilla raids are nostalgic to them or something.
>>748094215>>748094191looks so goofy kek
>>748091469>>748091929They could just do Forsaken and High elves. Basicly just blood elf model on both sides, but one would be pissyellow eyed, and other just red. Lore acurate, makes sense. Instead we got stupid sky elves.
>>748094360Forsaken elf looks a bit stupid to me too desu as its own thing, I'd rather have a unique horde race but this would be a lot better than what we got at least
>>748093230You have the most superficial view of "hardcore" imaginable.>organize a 40 man raidLogistics in classic WoW aren't special, it's a pain in the ass in every version of WoW and actually every MMO.>honor grindNothing that can be done half AFK is hardcore. That shit can be done with about as much engagement as an idle game.
>>748094432It's just "Hot elf" model for both sides. Forsaken is just edgy elf, and high elves are muh "i am alliance" elf
>>748094360Metzen didn't wanted them to add High Elves to Forever because that's supposed to be the new allied race in TLT.
RuneScape wonIran wonThis is the good timeline.
>>748094476>Nothing that can be done half AFK is hardcore.You'd get blacklisted from the honor farming community and be stuck at rank 10 or 11. You've made it abundantly clear you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>748087478That's not a rogue, that's a generic murderhobo they slapped some abilities on for storytelling reasons. Much easier to explain him being places if he's invisible.
>>748094616Then they could do just Sky elves for Alliance, and Forsaken for Horde. Neutral races are stupid.
>>748094360>Troll>Dwarf>Gnome>High Order SkyborneHmmm, one of these is standing out a bit. Literally Retail 2, already.
>megaserver with no sense of community>donut steel neutral race>HR sanitized quest text>incoherent art direction>retail model asset flip>nerfed overworld mobs for easy leveling>welfare blues out the assThe real classic experience
>>748094360>>748094852Kek, the retoilet name is so long it doesn't even fit on the graphic.
>>748091469To make this less likely for someone to scratch their eyes out they could do the following:>Alliance elf looks more like a high elf, regular skin color, blue eyes, has the lighter tattoo>Horde elf has different eyes, red feather in his hair, dark tattoo, has more of a shaman look>neither of them should have the blue skin in the icon
So what is the ingame reason that makes sky elves suddenly go "I don't like 50% of my race anymore"?
All this seethe only to lose. Bigly.
>>748094432we already got forsaken elves back in shadowlands
>>748095030Oh and the names are bad. They should not be that long that they go outside the entire boundary. Just have the name list them as Sky Elf.
Sooo question for nerds. I always played Horde. Mained Frost DK since Cata. Never played classic and i never played 1.0 Azeroth.Which side is more fun to play? Alliance or Horde? I saw precata Ogrimmar and it looks like shit. How about other zones? Since Forever seems to emphasise leveling i'm gonna spend alot of time in those zones. And since i am filthy casual with family i would prefer more kino experience.
>>748095069It's the new king shit and will be for at least the next few years
>>748095069now let's see how many are bots
>>748095057One group of them want to be mages again and the other want to be shamans
>>748093763>it's real Fuck yeah. Makes you actually able to cc mobs in dungeons reliably and opens up more solo shenanigans, also just great in pvp. Totally going for an ambush focused build, will be most fun. Hope sub can stay decent dps later with cutthroat instead of just being relegated to "the pvp spec".
>>748095120if you don't like Orgrimmar you're not gonna like the Barrens and you're not going to like the Horde
>>748095219There are bots sure, but we've known for a while that more people play classic than retail. Its why blizzard also only goes against classic private servers since theyre "stealing their main playerbase"
>>748095282the people who want classic and classic+ aren't playing this funserver tier retail-
Serious question, have the vast majority of WoW gamers not seen a game with modern graphics or engines? Because they lose their mind over the raytracing and shadows in this game. Have they never played an open world game like Red Dead Redemption 2 or various games that have come out in the past 10 years? How are they so amazed by the graphics? Have they all been living in a bubble for so long?
Do you think we'll get stuff like this again in WoWF?>People showing up late to raidhttps://youtu.be/zwMRcKTTvD8?t=192
>>748095238And what makes each side join the alliance and the horse since both have mages and shamans now.
>>748095069totally organic news that happens naturally
>>748070652What's the point of this? Isn't just the same game you already played?
>>748095275That was i thought. I saw streamers playing horde and it looked like shit. Alliance on the other side - all those forests with new light and fog looks kino and comfy.
>>748095329Then who is...?
>>748095408probably not, the only retards still playing wow are the subhumans who have nothing else going on in their life so why would they possibly be late for a raid?
>>748070652Sky elves get long cloaks too early
>>748093297Regen DOES NOT work like it does in classic, there is no MP5 regen for characters and instead of applying MP5 over a 5 sec span (so 1 mana every sec) they apply it EVERY server tick (so 5 mana every sec).You can try this yourself by creating a lvl 1 gnome mage and killing two wolves. That should leave you are between 10% and 20% mana, but you'll regain 35% mana if you just wait for about 2-3 sec. If you do the same on Classic you'll quickly notice that the only way to regain that much is by DRINKING and even then it will take you a minimum of 15 sec of DRINKING to reach that point, if you don't drink it will take upwards of 35 sec
>>748095459streamers (paid blizzard marketers) and their orbiters
>>748095413and the horde*
>>748095496Current devs won't even understand wtf you mean by that and hand you a giant colorful sword
>>748093416>"this quest requires you to travel to the other side of the map and back for 60 xp"lowkey one of the thing I'm most looking forward to having been improved, more exp or better rewards so you know longer chains are more worthwhile
>>748095526streamers do it for free or just charity bucks that allow them to bypass queues because it's free "content" they can effortlessly shit out for their own viewers
>>748095120No bullshit answer:In Classic, the Horde was given significantly less development time than the alliance. So the world building and quest design, especially from levels 1-30, is outrageously more detailed for Alliance than Horde. Major cities too just had way more development attention given to them.Beyond that, in Classic, Alliance had certain abilities and racials that just made a lot of the end game content easier.This disparity has been reduced in Forever but its 90% the same game as classic so just bear it in mind. But both factions have fear ward, paladin blessings, and totems now.Also historically, speaking in sweeping generalizations Alliance players are a little sweatier and better at the game but more obnoxious and Horde players are more chilled out but maybe not as min max focused. Obviously there are exceptions on both sides but that's been my experience.
>>748095401You can shitpost all you want, but let's be honest. Blizzard may be greedy and they are gay and fuck them, but Artstyle, graphics and overall feel of the world in WOW is one of its kind. Pure SOUL. Seeing it ramped up by raytracing, better water, draw distance is just great experience. Also modern games are soulless slops, and i prefer ugly ass WOW artstyle over ultrarealistic plastic slop from china. Also yeah Wow players are autistic what do you expect.
>>748095425>the most popular MMO new release getting big numbers is totally a conspiracy! surely people care about my autistic grievances like I do!
>>748073187How many games do I have to buy before I stop being brown?
>>748095413Thrall and Jaina I guess
>friend who was excited to play forever is already annoyed that attack skills trigger on next autoattack>"they need to change this"it begins
>>748095631That's very insighful post anon. Thanks. I'll play gays this time then. I wish you all the good shit bro.
>>748095413>expecting Retail 2 to make sense
>>748095408do slight disagreements or barely heated discussions like this really warrant youtube uploads and shit these days?
>>748095662That's nostalgia talking though... you can have art style and have better graphics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEY32Dc-g0g
>>748095069that's a lot of people who are going to be smacked in the face with the grim reality of retailminus
>>748095408I dont know why anyone subjects themselves to the humiliation ritual that is sweaty raid guilds
>>748095219>>748095425>>748096264All me.
It's hilarious to see shills LARPing that the retail style is just the natural and inevitable evolution of the classic style, and that any attempt to modernize or HD classic designs could only look like retailslop when we can so clearly see that that's patently untrue.
>>748096202based video, thank you for the laugh
>turn on HD>die and become a vampire
>>748095692>most popularIts not even in the top 3 anymore... and thats not counting chinese MMOs
>>748096452I remember way back when they added the new models to retail they said they would keep the look of our faces but better graphicsThat was a fucking lie
>>748070652I just hope Blizzard cracks down on gdkp. Fucking ruined classic something fierce.
>>748096631
so how are the chat channels with these mega servers, is trade chat usable?
>>748096452>>748096754>toggles HD>slips a fart
>>748093051Making the game more casual is typical. They care about whales from retail, not fans of vanilla.
>>748092736Do you enjoy living without biological children?
>>748096801default "global chats" are also layered because they'd be completely unusable with 100k people in them
>>748070652The blue elves.That's all.Where the Ogres for the Horde?
>>748088803Excellent
>>748097067shut up, china wants elves so horde gets elves again
I’m excited to play bm hunter. Think it will be better damage than going lone wolf considering how they changed pets damage to scale with the player including 100% of your crit. Also they made pet attack speed multiplicative so a higher attack speed pet is now just objectively more damage
>>748070652NEVER give money to nublizz
Let that shit go /v/
Are there any stats on which classes are played the most/least?
>>748092187>they stated
>>748095069>allow people to cause 10 dollars of food waste in australia, even non-australians, for two months of an experimental version of wow>inflated playercount is supposed to be shocking
>>748096452Vamp gnome on the right is 100x better as a rogue, HD did a favor here
>>748097063so how do these invite to asmon layer things work then? obviously some sort of inter layer chat is possibleI am kind of dreading playing the pvp server on ally and having asmon shit everywhere forever, but hell probably quit after a month or two so it might not be too bad
>>748097248not that im aware of but im going to assume Paladin is most played with undead ones being a thing
>>748097320#DIFFERENT
>be blizzard>pump gay disney into drones mouth for 10+ years>nuke the playerbase, all what remain is trannies, 30+ women, chink mafia bots>turns out they are dogshit investments over long term, so tease classic plus>a scammer ruskie whore's gopnik team does a better job at continuing the legacy>nuke them>people asked for vampires, necromancers, ogres, naga for 15 years now, literally the most perfect time to do so is now to gain back reputation and trust>release blue blood elves instead, make it for both faction >to rub salt on the wound make them paywalled>the new release is retail minus, with clashing artstyles>name retail minus wow 4evr>drones flock over the moldy breadcrumbsHow is it even humanly possible to be this raped. You are making pokemon fans look good.
>>748097248Dunno, Classic had a pretty reasonable split. So I'd say just play whatever you want. If anything, the new class/race combos might have a popularity spike.
>>748096202>>748096448That ChatGPT logo on the SB Lore book was a good touchYeah buddy just pull out an entirely new race out of your ass lmfao
>>748096394man I really hate the way nu-wow handles makes metal look like polished rocks instead of metallic
>>748097387it's many world layers per trade chat layer
>>748087590Now I'm reminded of Kingdom Under Fire II and how it flopped.Should've never made it an MMO. If they had to, they should've made it into not!Spellforce, made a single-player campaign and voila.>>748097127Where the Nagas? Where the Jinyu? Where the Draconoids? Where the hell are my Nerubians?
>>748097523what am I supposed to be mad about with your picture comparison
which classes are looking good lads?
If this isn't your gnome's face, you're playing them wrong
>>748097716Uninstall wizard
>>748097572It looks like fucking Lego. How is a 20+ year old game better at conveying metallics?
>>748097248Same as retailPala/Warrior at topRogue/warlock at bottom
>for a small additional fee, you can play as Na'vi Elves>this is a neutral faction, availabile to both Horde and AllianceSo this is just Retail: Again? Where is the 'Warcraft'?
>>748094691Because face rolling with a premade is so much harder. The vanilla honor system is a fucking travesty because it lets shower dodging lobotomites like you larp that they've actually accomplished something. Come back with a glad mount.
>>748097782How come Warlock? Aren't they really good?
>>748097795On private servers.
For some unknown reasons I get ominous vibes when near this character.
>>748097782I dunno what they're thinking with the combo points, of course no one is playing rogue.
>>748097572The underpaid asset flippers doesn't get how reflection works, while older artist had to manually paint on the lights and shadows. This is also very noticeable in modern gaming
>>748097795Things that make money>delusions of being "one of the oldfags">microtransactions to look like a special fruit>elvesCombine these to get Forever
>>748070652normies who attack viciously everyone who doesn't care about their mundane lives
>>748096394I know it's very "nintendo hire this man" haha very funny. But Tomkek genuinely has done way better model updates than anyone at Blizard has done in years.
>>748071163Bro your turtle repack with bots?
>>748097709left dwarf has less of a scowlsome people keep pointing out his haircut as black coded but I actually don't see itediting the picture to give him a fade is what makes it black coded
>>748098205>pointing out his haircut as black codedkek I see it but I can't explain exactly why
>tried naming my Shaman Sham Wow>"that name is restricted"Ok slurs it is
>>748098480Be careful, they already banned and kicked out Illegal Migrant
>>748098480>shaman has sham in namepeak creativity right there, fucking cattle
>>748098568how do we blizzard to run the us government?
>>748098660Move the HQ to Israel.
>they still didn't add a fucking offensive ability for retardinshow can blizzard be so fucking stupid, even the old beta had it
>>748098568so an improper name results in account ban?
>Brownoids continue to seethe about being unable to afford a subscription.Is there ANY game on /v/ that gets as many people in threads that don't play it, and instead are there to bitch about it, than World of Warcraft?
>>748099041I saw someone say they had their beta access revoked but no clue if it's true
>>748099130brownoids are the only ones playing wow thougheverbeit?
>>748091587PLEASE BE IN ALBUQUERQUE
>>748091587show tummy and penis
>>748099239Asmongold is playing it lil bro. Forever is the white mans game
>>748099405asmongoldstein is not white and neither are you
>>748099041NoThey'll force a name change on you. If you do it again they'll ban you
>>748099493they forced a name change on me like 15 years ago because I was named endlesswhorehope they don't remember
>>748099239Brownoids can't afford 15$, anon, don't be silly. That's half of their monthly salary.
>>748098925I have no idea. Conviction and 2h mastery actually look out of place next to everything else supporting spell damage.
>>748099405ah yesthe epitome of aryan chadhoodasmongold
wait, does the Rogue pvp set not change from the blue set to Warlord, unlike Horde that goes from purple and then brown/red?
>>748099405ah yes, the creature that lets cockroaches crawl all over him, uses a dead rat's stink as an alarm clock, and wipes his bloody boogers on the wallthe avatar of white people.
>>748100745>and wipes his bloody boogers on the wallI used to do this when I was like 8. Then I quickly realized it was disgusting and that I didn't want to be a in a room with old boogers on the wall. Crazy that some people never mature beyond that stage
>>748099561Don't worry chudbro, WoW was literally designed by a guy who used to go by 'Tigole Bitties'. They understand the world used to be very different many years ago, and they don't hold it against you as long as you have educated yourself on modern behavior expectations.
>Blizzard is still beating this dead horse in the year 2026I quit during WoD. They shut down Nostalrius because it was sapping their playerbase. Blizzard is nothing but a cash grabbing, politically correct, tranny loving, piece of shit corporation.
>>748094360Instead of Forsaken Elf, give Horde demons that got mind dominated by some council of Horde warlocks, and now have to serve the Horde. Give them models similar to the Succubi, but visually distinct so you can tell at a glance that its a character and not a pet.
>>748101101>the cuck raceI don't want to be mind controlled bro, find someone else for your sick fantasies
