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Will /v/ watch this Death Battle today? Shadow vs Mewtwo rematch in a hour.
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>>748094204
>Ultimate lifeform vs. some faggot who mopes in a cave all day
I'm thinking CHADow wins
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SHITdow is gonna job.
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Why isn't Shadow treated as a dark type?
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>>748094204
If the result won't be different then there's no real point
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>>748094204
Wake me up when they redo Zero vs. Metal Sonic
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>>748094638
Not really much of a need since by their current logic, Metal sneezes and obliterates Zero
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SoNIGS deserve the rope.
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>>748094204
Not even with Shadows and Mewtwos help could Goku beat Superman
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>>748094204
Bruh yall Unc Niggas deadass Watch Ts? Son Im kirkenuinely crine rn :sob: :sob: :skull:
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>>748094942
jeet
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>>748094942
>implying niggas ain't all about DB and the character cocksucking and banter that comes with it
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>copies Shadow’s stats with swap moves
>resists timestop
>can knock off his emeralds and prevent him from transforming
>can just mind control him and instawin
I don’t see a single wincon for Shadow
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>>>/co/mblr
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>>748095075
Sir, both of the characters in the OP come from videogames.
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>>748095075
Both are vidya.
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>>748095053
There's no move that copies stats you fucking retard
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>Sucker Punch
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>>748095521
Power Swap swaps actual strength stats between opponents in the anime, not just stat changes like in the games
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>>748094204
These retarded boomers are still going?
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>>748095813
Yeah.
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>>748095813
They’re crowd-funded now. The episodes are only gonna get more and more autistic as they get more dependent on their retarded whales who pay for episodes from super-obscure series. Next year, we’re supposedly getting Fate vs Kamen Rider.
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>>748096175
Pitches cost 300 dollars btw and aren't even guaranted to become an episode. Easy money. Kek.
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>Mewtwo even being considered an equal opponent to Shadow
The moment Shadow goes super with rings off its a wrap
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>10 minutes
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>>748096418
they charge people hundreds just to pitch? jesus christ how embarassing
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mewtwo is cute
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>2 minutes
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Why do people upscale Mewtwo? It's terrible in the games and a midget on a horse is better than it in every regard.
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>>748094204
>Death Battle

No one cares.
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>CHAD CHADttle
Everyone cares.
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>>748094204
Fuck off retard
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https://youtu.be/xbtvtRnALGU?is=CZyH-PjSQCmJ2x28
Get the fuck in.
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Mewtwo will win. Shadow, like literally every Sonic character. Only exists to make Sonic look cool.
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Shadowbros.....
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HaxGODS.....
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>>748098510
I like Shadow more, but Mewtwo takes this.
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>in-video ad for a class action lawsuit
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Sonic is SHIT.
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>TCG moves
FUARKKKK!!
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Shadowbros....I don't like this.
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>>748094361
Nah.
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CHADow
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>>748096745
Predicted to precision
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We won, my niggas
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That was kino they literally blew the moon up like SA2.
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The king wins as expected
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>>748099560
Really close though especially when the last death battle between the two was a low-diff where Mewtwo just brainwashed Shadow then impaled him with the spoon.
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>>748094204
I stopped watching death battle years ago when I realized that it was cringe dogshit.
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KINGDOOOOOOOOOOW
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>losing to Palworld AND Sonic
Wew
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Cool animation though
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>>748098130
>It's terrible in the games
Gen 1 Mewtwo is the most powerful pokemon in history and could only be stopped by another Mewtwo. Mewtwo consistently remained broken in future gens, especially after receiving mega evolution.
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>>748100875
Mewtwo the multiversal, planetary level fighter... versus a fat bastard....
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>>748094204
This show is STILL going?
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>>748101301
Bad faith argument. Everyone knows snorlax is multiversal++2 and hyper FTL
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>>748101356
They went indie and are getting dosh thrown at them for powerfag fan fiction
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>>748102039
>>748096418
>300 bucks per pitch
Getting DBZ spics to waste their cash on such dumb shit is a good idea but the show still sucks. My interest petered out when they started doing those animated avatars of themselves and for some reason they're still doing it.
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>next time
Jesus Christ.....
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>>748100875
>Gen 1 Mewtwo is the most powerful pokemon in history and could only be stopped by another Mewtwo.
Or a 10 year old boy
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>Cuck battle
Go back to R*ddit
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>>748094204
Rematch? They're starting to do rematches now? Fucking kek. I'm surprised of all things that Screwattack did this is all that is left of their legacy
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> Mewtwo used miracle eye on shadow.
> The move failed because miracle eye only works on dark types which are immune to psychic attacks, miracle eye has no effect on pokemon resistant to psychic attacks like steel types or other psychic types
> Shadow is not a dark type pokemon.
> Miracle eye only bypasses immunity to psychic attacks, not immunity to pokemon status moves like hypnosis or telekinesis
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>Next Time
isn't the entire point of Saitama and OPM as a series is that he's a lazy, invincible manchild who will kill literally anything in a single hit? Why do they keep putting him up against non-toonforce characters?
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>>748102919
For shitskin autists to to clap and go YOOOOOOOOOO dis shit lit fr fr aahhhh
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>>748102919
OPM setting as a whole doesn't seem to have the goofy power stuff that dragonball does last I checked. That said, Saitama himself is basically a gag character and they noted specifically in the manga that his power just goes fuck you and exponentially rises to his opponent in the scenario they are somehow stronger to kick their ass. Like a lazier more grounded gurren lagann from what they've done with it so far
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>>748102919
Boros? Garou?
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>>748103057
In the webcomic (AKA the real unraped OPM) he stomps both.
He was playing along with Boros in all versions so he could have his fight and Garou couldn’t match up to him because of his half hearted efforts to become a monster
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>>748094204
tahu should have won
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>>748094204
>Watch death battle
I haven't watched that in like 15 years. I can only imagine how phoned in it's become and even worse with the bad logic and power scal
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>>748102919
It’s the easiest way to garner views, a quick 3,000,000.
>saitama lazy
He did an “intense” workout for a few years that made him transcend physiological limits. He’s sort of lazy in the sense that he squats in an apartment in the worst part of the city, but he’s actually the epitome of a hero who just kills monsters for the love of the game. But in the series there’s a whole running gag where the general populace doesn’t accept his power, they call him a cheat who steals victories from others and is just there for the fame when it’s really the opposite. The hero association only exists because he saved the founder’s son one day, unknown to everyone including himself. But yes ever since the end of the MA arc in the Murata manga (which is 100% what they’ll scale off of), Saitama’s power hasn’t just been insanely high, but it can literally grow and adapt on the fly to the point where Saitama will never find anyone who can truly give him a worthy fight. Goku has a similar mechanic with his Zenkai boosts and just ability to overcome odds in general, but it’s nowhere near as strong as Saitama’s because it’s part of the character’s gag.
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>>748094204
It was alright, definitely better than the original, though that's not saying much.
>>748099560
Is he the strongest King for having the most wins or the weakest for having the most losses?
>>748102554
>pity win episode followed by the ultimate pity win episode
laaaaaame
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Fun episode.
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>>748102919
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>>748094204
>Conceptual advantage against humans
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My fuarking king. I never doubted you
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>>748102751
They all are Mentally broken, most are from /pol/
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>>748099560
Obviously
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Mewtwo's cool, but I like Zekrom better.
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>Sonic characters are the strongACK
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>>748106845
That's not Reshiram
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>>748094204
god damn that animation was fucking epic. how they do that so good. that was official tier
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>>748094204
MOGGED
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>>748102919
>>748103037
>>748103396
>he's a gag, looney toony
regardless, he is stronger than any other character. and his power is unknown.
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Mewtwo is a THEY/THEM.
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Legendary Pokémon lose to a beagle, why are they in the powerscaling discussion?
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>>748104142
I love this manga so much but it takes too long for chapters to come out.
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>>748107717
They killed the non-binary character? Erm, a bit problematic.
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>>748108506
Okay, this...is epic.
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I literally LMAO when I saw this Next Time. They had this fucker die 3 times to Superman and now will just give him a pity win against Saitama
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>Death battle get so fucking desperate to make this bad matchup even that they attempt to argue that Mewtwo is comparable in strength to fucking Dialga, Palkia and Giratina.
Shit is nonsense and Mewtwo wouldn’t even be able to handle Black Doom let alone Shadow.
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>>748108687
lol
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>>748108747
That shit baffled me. I get that you dont want it to be a stomp but this shit is obviously a stomp
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>>748102919
Saitama is basically the equivalent of putting a fully equipped, max level character at the start of a video game and just playing it normally one-shotting everything until he gets to endgame.

Saitama isn't some Gag character that punches things to dust, he actually has a limit, we just don't know what it is because there is no one that can give him a challenge.
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>>748108747
>>748108892
Yeah when I saw them scale Mewtwo to the creation trio, I knew Shadow already won the episode

Don't get me wrong, the fight was actually pretty damn good but Death Battle has an issue of making fights seem closer than they actually are.. They don't want to make the character getting stomped look like a complete fraud but it's almost impossible to avoid it. I think it's the main reason why that came up with this category system so they can give the losing character some pity points
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>>748108747
>>Death battle get so fucking desperate to make this bad matchup even that they attempt to argue that Mewtwo is comparable in strength to fucking Dialga, Palkia and Giratina.
Mewtwo is unironically.
Later anime seasons show Mew can casually transform into the other box legendaries, it carries the DNA and powers of all pokemon. Mewtwo was cloned from Mew and both are comparable. So yes, Mewtwo is likely equal to the Creation Trio.
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>>748108687
Saitama wins actually
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>Casually enters the thread....
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>>748095775
I don't like the fact Pokemon is so cherry picked in this stuff. You cant have the strengths of the anime versions without the weaknesses of the anime versions.
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>Character can move X times FTL!
If you can go FTL...YOU DON'T HAVE A SPEED LIMIT! IT'S A POINTLESS CALCULATION!
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>>748109913
This nigger is just a parody character at this point. He's like the one punch man except he's put in a setting where he's taken seriously by the world and everyone knows him. So like the opposite of the one punch man but just far less fun or interesting.
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>>748110237
Speed calcs also just don't matter when characters who regularly stop time are involved.
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>>748094204
Couldn't Mewtwo just mindrape him and make him forget why they are even fighting?
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>>748110742
No sells it due to Black Doom stuff and chaos emerald super form makes him outright immune
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>>748110742
Listen, the chaos emeralds can do things they have never been shown doing! Deathbattle's "research team" is full of shit. After Kratos vs Asura, I do not understand how people don't see it.
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>>748110807
Can you repeat that in english?
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>>748110742
Gen 10 needs to make a priority move that drops all of your stats by 1 before that can happen.
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>Shadow beats Mewtwo
HOW
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>>748111014
uhh, it is shadow, retard
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>SHITdow
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Why is Goku in the next one? Ultra Instinct is filled with unexplained powers like that Moro fight.
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>>748094204
Pretty cool animation. The me first was a nice touch
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>>748108405
i know, i read this kind of posts a lot of times.
But yeah, In Death Battle, Versus is Effective against MHA and One piece.
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>>748111014
All psychic nonsense Mewtwo has done, is all something shadow has faced and overcome before or was held back by the fine print of the moves and how they work in pokemon.
>Mind/Body/Soul manipuation hax = Black Doom and Ifrit
>Stat swaps only work on things like sword dance not transformations, so no Super Mewtwo
>Mimic, too slow/reactionary to copy Chaos Control
>Me first, can only copy attack moves
>Trick room + Other fields = Limited range, Shadow can just leave.

Basically the Hax man fought mr.resistances and lost.
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>>748111014
Pokemon aren't actually that strong. Literal children run around and collect them like baseball cards.
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>>748111014
because he's stronger
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>>748108687
Shit like this is missing the entire point of OPM, I don’t know how you could call yourself a fan and actually want to see this
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>>748113085
shadow is so fucking lame
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>>748108687
>Implying Saitama is losing
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Death battle threads in /co/ are so funny.
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>>748107148
Yup, they are.
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>>748114048
Shadow’s not the one who got his ass beat lmao
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>dark type beats psychic type
What should have been from the beginning
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I can finally post this image.
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>>748115207
Kek
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>>748107521
The me first rug pull was pretty good
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>>748094204
Cool that Shadow won but the true winner of the video was that beautifuly made animation
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>>748120450
Yea dude stuff is really good, haven’t had anything this good since the cell vs metal sonic
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>>748120450
This, I only watch these because the animations are usually very well done
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>Shadow stomps Arceus and the creation trio
kek
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>>748121087
Arceus would dumpster Shadow.
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>>748121087
nop
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Pokemon should just retire from DB after losing to Digimon, Yugioh and Sonic.
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>>748094923
Supermans been raped canonically.
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>>748109898
Going by stats in their actual series Goku is massively stronger than Saitamas best feat.
If you go by the statement of Saitama being able to grow stronger mid battle, then you have to accept that Goku does the exact same thing canonically.
Saitama starts the fight weaker
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>>748113085
How come black doom wears a star of david, is he jewish?
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>>748113246
And Shadow was knocked out by some shitty robot
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>>748122586
So was Vegeta
A girl robot at that.
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>>748121706
They put tournament Mewtwo above Arceus
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>>748122612
Still less humiliating than getting knocked out by a random guard robo and having Rouge drag your ass on the street.
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>>748094204
So what’s next, are they going to rematch him against Vegeta?
I’d kinda like to see how they could possibly justify him beating current anime Vegeta let alone manga with Ultra Ego when he couldn’t even beat SSJ2 Vegeta the first time.
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Don't drop the soap
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>>748123187
Just use Archie Shadow and Vegeta jobs.
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>>748107148
>>748115225
Non canon shit that nerfs characters on a whim. I don't take either panel seriously.
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>>748123187
>I'd kind of like to see how they could possibly justify him beating current anime Vegeta let alone manga with Ultra Ego when he couldn't even beat SSJ2 Vegeta the first time
Same way they had Silver spank Xenoverse Trunks. Just bring in archie comics wank
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>>748123248
>Just use Archie Shadow and Vegeta jobs.
Then bring in Xeno Vegeta and he destroys him. Archie Shadow is also the biggest jobber in that comic.
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>>748123425
Xeno Vegeta would win yeah.
But since you mentioned anime and manga Vegeta I was just saying how a version of Shadow would beat those two versions of Vegeta.
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>>748123248
Does Archie Shadow even have any impressive feats? When people bring Archie into the equation it's usually because of the super early shit where Sonic vibrated through walls
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>>748123415
That was strictly a non canon vs non canon battle though (which even Ian flynn disagreed with). DB makes it clear what versions they're using or not.
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>>748123513
Not really but neither did Silver and he won against Heroes/Xenoverse Trunks
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>>748123497
I'm not the original poster, but yeah, makes sense.
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>>748123520
Ian only disagreed about Silver being allowed the chaos emeralds + time stones which no shit of course he'd lose then
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>>748123547
Archie Silver was redirecting attacks from Endgame Enerjak back at him, that's more of an argument for his scaling to high tiers than Archie Shadow.
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>>748122725
You mean the rainbow rocket Mewtwo? It’s strong but Arceus is on another level. Frankly I don’t think Mewtwo could even beat Ultra Necrozma in a fight but whatever
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>>748123425
They already said Archie Super Silver is stronger than anyone in all of Dragon Ball. Any Archie Super form is overkill.
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>>748123668
base archie super silver was contesting with a guy who made archie super sonic his bitch, i think he's a special case
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>>748123721
base archie silver was*
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>>748103541
>Is he the strongest King
No, that goes to Jack. Jack is Solaris on roids.
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>>748109662
Not really, as the creation trios are avatars of high dimensional beings responsible for the creation of the universe. Arceus is basically god while mew's simply adam.
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>>748123658
06 is canon to Archie which means Shadow clowned on Silver
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>>748123796
Holy fuck how have I not made that connection between Mew and Adam in all this time. That’s pretty cool actually
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>>748123721
Silver only won because of something Sonic did. They had Sonic's SGW Chaos Control be the deciding factor.
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>>748123841
>06 is canon to Archie which means Shadow clowned on Silver
Events happen differently across comic from game. Until we see Archie Shadow do that, he's the biggest jobber.
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>>748123661
More referring to the game nod bit
>In tournament rankings, Mewtwo's outclassing god
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>>748123415
Meanwhile IDW Silver used a sneak attack and that didn't win on the spot
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>>748123876
Eve's more fitting, but fuck patriarchy I guess.
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>>748123928
It was how they gave Silver super form despite him never getting it in archie comics. It is what it is.
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>>748110326
Yujiro is fun. He's like a Looney Toons or Popeye character in world full of Naruto characters. The jackhammer chapters were the funniest things I've read in a while.
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>>748123972
Is that Gas from dbs as a Mobian?
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Also, Death Battlebis based off of Feats shown in official materials. Just imagine Mewtwo vs. Cell instead; fuck, imagine Shadiw vs. Cell.
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>>748123841
06 Shadow vs SIlver was a stalemate until Shadow started using chaos emeralds to have an advantage, when Silver started using them it stalemated again, then they stopped it early.
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It's sad. Powerscaling is all that Sonicfags have left.
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>>748115207
He's right.
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>>748124092
No, he's a guy who turns into other people but he really shouldn't be strong enough to do this.
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>>748124139
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>>748124139
and a successful movie franchise
and great music
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>>748111014
Created to harness the power of the God Stones known as the Chaos Emeralds. Technically, that what the Chaos Emeralds are, Godstones; similar to that of the infinity stones of Marvel fame.

>>748113246
Pokémon Trainers and Pokéballs deliberately held them back to reduce collateral damage along with death; It's the reason why Cyrus wanted to enslave Dialuga/Palkia to reshape reality with the red chain, as he's unable to do it otherwise.
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>>748110828
>Listen, the chaos emeralds can do things they have never been shown doing! Deathbattle's "research team" is full of shit
They go by feats alone, or what's stated in official materials.
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>>748094792
I haven’t kept up with Death Battle in years but Metal Sonic to me feels like a good example of how it feels like DB slowly went from
>This is how the character is generally portrayed in the source material
To
>These characters could blink and 999 multiverses disappear
Like I think Metal Sonic beating Cell is really funny but then I’m left wondering why he’s always a turbojobber in the games who doesn’t do 99% of what the stats say
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>>748125527
Nah they've been doing that way before that fight
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>>748122612
>So was Vegeta
...by a non-canon gag character
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>>748123661
>Red Rocket Mewtwo
fraud
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>>748125527
Metal looked cool in Bowser/Eggman and his own episode with Cell but his powerlevel is straight up fanfiction.
>his copying ability is probably this broken
>he probably uses the emeralds as well as Sonic does
>he's probably up there with Solaris and Time Eater
But the games themselves just don't hold any of that up.
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Metal… DOWNSCALE?
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>>748108687
KEKKKKKK
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>>748110237
What? FTL speed still takes finite time to cover a finite distance
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>>748094204
LIVE AND LEARN
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>>748121830
The old Digimon vs Pokèmon Death Battle still holds up really well and the Yu-Gi-Oh battle is absolute cinema.
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>>748125527
>>748125981
Not a sonic fan but I'm pretty sure Metal suffers from being a mix of potential type character but also being Eggman's pet so he'll never really be the big bad final boss and will always job before getting to that status
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>>748126489
>Pokemon eps are some of the most kino animations they've done
>However they lose most of them barring Machamp VS Goro
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>>748094204
>Already at 1.1 million views
>One of their best animations of all time
Only the best for the king of /v/
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>>748112198
>All the heroes in MHA are human, even though their Quirks transform them into various forms related to their superpowers.
Yikes!
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So when are they gonna do Pokémon vs. Palword with Necrozuma Ultra vs. a bitch and her Lavos?
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>>748127021
Pokemon lore and pokedex's data is far more unhinged than that of Palworld, which seems more solid.
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>>748125527
The concept of Scaling ruined vs matchup debates.
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>>748102919
>Why do they keep putting him up against non-toonforce characters?
The No Limits Fallacy.
There's this idea that there's no such thing as a character with infinite power and a limit does exist somewhere, so Saitama can be beaten if autists can find what this limit is.
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>>748108687
Saitamakeks always butt their way in powerscaling arguments so hopefully this shuts them down for good
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>>748094204
>I'M GLOWING? WHY THE FUCK AM I GLOWING??
I'm so glad they stopped being fucking cringe. I can guarantee we won't have to listen to that faggot who did Goku in the abridged show next episode. Death Battle is so fucking back!
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>>748125527
>I’m left wondering why he’s always a turbojobber in the games who doesn’t do 99% of what the stats say
They aren’t real, they’re fictional characters who are subjected to the whims of whoever’s dictating their actions. The winner of these match-ups isn’t based on who’s stronger or has more feats, but rather whoever the writer wants to win. It’s why death battle is fundamentally stupid and childish
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>>748127505
>DBZAbriged

its funny to me how they're somehow still around yet dont even make anything people want to watch anymore.
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>Shadow is univer-AIIEEEEE
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>>748094495
Shadow would be dark/psychic.
Sonic would be normal/electric.
Knuckles fire/ground.
Tails Flying/Steel.
Amy Fighting/Normal
Cream Flying/Fairy
Rouge Dark/Flying
Vector Dark/Sound... if there was a FUCKING SOUND TYPE. FUCK YOU NINTENDO
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>>748125527
Eggman nerfed him so he can't go Neo Metal any more
Also characters at their peak aren't theoretical potentials, it's a canonical apex of attributes they've had at least once. This contrasts heavily with the so called "potential man", where scalers make claims like
>b-but he trained for 5 years straight!
thinking that those statements would help aid their self-proclaimed rebuttals.
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>>748127021
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>>748127720
>dark/psychic
So he would be 4x weak to Charmy?
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>>748127021
Palworld is relatively more grounded and still new
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>>748106845
Would be great without the stupid tail.
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>>748127720
>Knuckles fire/ground.

fighting?
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>>748127720
There's nothing about Shadow that suggests Dark type other than being black and edgy.
Might as well say Necrozma is a dark type.
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>>748127720
Rock/Fighting is better for Knuckles
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>>748127720
I’d say Amy is better suited to Fairy/Fighting and then Sonic gets to have Normal/Fighting but otherwise these are fine
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>>748127950
Knuckles digs, summons meteorites, glides and creates fire with his fists. He is too complex to just be a fighting type.
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Didn't Silver lost to a Eggpawn?
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>>748128037
Dark type is literally called the “Evil type” in Japanese, but that doesn’t mean dark type Pokémon are necessarily evil. Like Absol, it appears before disasters not because it causes them, but because it senses them in advance and tries to warn people. Also Shadow was made with evil alien DNA.
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>>748128037
That is how the verse works. Literally red and black.
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>>748128037
Doom powers would definitely fall under Dark type.
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>>748122295
Yeah, Saitama would have to survive long enough that his up-scaling power takes off, which is hard when he is multi-solar system against Goku who is universal+
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>>748128470
Blaze Tauros is my favorite dark type.
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>>748128037
>There's nothing about Shadow that suggests Dark type other than being black and edgy.
He tried to kill everyone over grief. His DNA is from the Black Arms, a evil alien race.
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>Let's scale Goku off of an unfinished story that is wildly different between the manga and the anime
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Lmao, what happened to all of those cocky Saitama glazers that were spouting about how he solos Goku and DB years ago?
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>>748129239
The funny part is Saitama might end up winning depending what they use along with his canon power evolution
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>>748128037
The doom alien stuff for one
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>>748129239
saitama might be stupid and challenge goku to a food eating contest
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>>748128470
I will never stop being mad.
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This is how Next Time feels
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they really need to stop doing the "lets consider ALL material as canon" when that clearly never works and they keep missing stuff that would edge out certain characters a win
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Silver should use his power to infinitely divide the speed of other people’s attacks
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>>748132474
Nah, that's technically still good. What's not good is the "he beats it, he powerscales to it".
It's like everyone is kirby and suddenly can copy the feats of everyone.
It's low iq powerscaling, like saying paper beats rock because it beats scissors.
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Technically speaking Mewtwo should have won like it did in the first battle.
Even though shadow has proven to have mind control resistance, he still isn't total immune to it.
And at that point you have to compare black doom vs mewtwo in psych abilities., which mewtwo wins by a lot.
IIRC black doom mind control is limited to DNA, which means his mind control is akin to animal instincts, psych mind control works differently more akin to rewiring your brain psychically.
And that's ignoring that future sight and his iq, shadow maybe faster and can stop time but future sight is basically the counter for that if you have the right tools, which mewtwo has.
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>>748132474
The reason the G1 blog made Mewwo win is because they considered the Pokemon TCG canon.

>>748136054
I disagree because Mewtwo shouldnt ever know more than 4 moves.
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>>748094361
Based.
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>Shadow won
based and correct
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>>748137714
it doesn't matter if you limit mewtwo moves, not every psychic ability is a move lol.
Like, mewtwo speaks through your mind, i don't see any "Speak in your mind" move.



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