Will /v/ watch this Death Battle today? Shadow vs Mewtwo rematch in a hour.
>>748094204>Ultimate lifeform vs. some faggot who mopes in a cave all dayI'm thinking CHADow wins
SHITdow is gonna job.
Why isn't Shadow treated as a dark type?
>>748094204If the result won't be different then there's no real point
>>748094204Wake me up when they redo Zero vs. Metal Sonic
>>748094638Not really much of a need since by their current logic, Metal sneezes and obliterates Zero
SoNIGS deserve the rope.
>>748094204Not even with Shadows and Mewtwos help could Goku beat Superman
>>748094204Bruh yall Unc Niggas deadass Watch Ts? Son Im kirkenuinely crine rn :sob: :sob: :skull:
>>748094942jeet
>>748094942>implying niggas ain't all about DB and the character cocksucking and banter that comes with it
>copies Shadow’s stats with swap moves>resists timestop>can knock off his emeralds and prevent him from transforming>can just mind control him and instawinI don’t see a single wincon for Shadow
>>>/co/mblr
>>748095075Sir, both of the characters in the OP come from videogames.
>>748095075Both are vidya.
>>748095053There's no move that copies stats you fucking retard
>Sucker Punch
>>748095521Power Swap swaps actual strength stats between opponents in the anime, not just stat changes like in the games
>>748094204These retarded boomers are still going?
>>748095813Yeah.
>>748095813They’re crowd-funded now. The episodes are only gonna get more and more autistic as they get more dependent on their retarded whales who pay for episodes from super-obscure series. Next year, we’re supposedly getting Fate vs Kamen Rider.
>>748096175Pitches cost 300 dollars btw and aren't even guaranted to become an episode. Easy money. Kek.
>Mewtwo even being considered an equal opponent to ShadowThe moment Shadow goes super with rings off its a wrap
>10 minutes
>>748096418they charge people hundreds just to pitch? jesus christ how embarassing
mewtwo is cute
>2 minutes
Why do people upscale Mewtwo? It's terrible in the games and a midget on a horse is better than it in every regard.
>>748094204>Death BattleNo one cares.
>CHAD CHADttleEveryone cares.
>>748094204Fuck off retard
https://youtu.be/xbtvtRnALGU?is=CZyH-PjSQCmJ2x28Get the fuck in.
Mewtwo will win. Shadow, like literally every Sonic character. Only exists to make Sonic look cool.
Shadowbros.....
HaxGODS.....
>>748098510I like Shadow more, but Mewtwo takes this.
>in-video ad for a class action lawsuit
Sonic is SHIT.
>TCG movesFUARKKKK!!
Shadowbros....I don't like this.
>>748094361Nah.
CHADow
>>748096745Predicted to precision
We won, my niggas
That was kino they literally blew the moon up like SA2.
The king wins as expected
>>748099560Really close though especially when the last death battle between the two was a low-diff where Mewtwo just brainwashed Shadow then impaled him with the spoon.
>>748094204I stopped watching death battle years ago when I realized that it was cringe dogshit.
KINGDOOOOOOOOOOW
>losing to Palworld AND SonicWew
Cool animation though
>>748098130>It's terrible in the gamesGen 1 Mewtwo is the most powerful pokemon in history and could only be stopped by another Mewtwo. Mewtwo consistently remained broken in future gens, especially after receiving mega evolution.
>>748100875Mewtwo the multiversal, planetary level fighter... versus a fat bastard....
>>748094204This show is STILL going?
>>748101301Bad faith argument. Everyone knows snorlax is multiversal++2 and hyper FTL
>>748101356They went indie and are getting dosh thrown at them for powerfag fan fiction
>>748102039>>748096418>300 bucks per pitchGetting DBZ spics to waste their cash on such dumb shit is a good idea but the show still sucks. My interest petered out when they started doing those animated avatars of themselves and for some reason they're still doing it.
>next timeJesus Christ.....
>>748100875>Gen 1 Mewtwo is the most powerful pokemon in history and could only be stopped by another Mewtwo.Or a 10 year old boy
>Cuck battleGo back to R*ddit
>>748094204Rematch? They're starting to do rematches now? Fucking kek. I'm surprised of all things that Screwattack did this is all that is left of their legacy
> Mewtwo used miracle eye on shadow.> The move failed because miracle eye only works on dark types which are immune to psychic attacks, miracle eye has no effect on pokemon resistant to psychic attacks like steel types or other psychic types> Shadow is not a dark type pokemon.> Miracle eye only bypasses immunity to psychic attacks, not immunity to pokemon status moves like hypnosis or telekinesis
>Next Timeisn't the entire point of Saitama and OPM as a series is that he's a lazy, invincible manchild who will kill literally anything in a single hit? Why do they keep putting him up against non-toonforce characters?
>>748102919For shitskin autists to to clap and go YOOOOOOOOOO dis shit lit fr fr aahhhh
>>748102919OPM setting as a whole doesn't seem to have the goofy power stuff that dragonball does last I checked. That said, Saitama himself is basically a gag character and they noted specifically in the manga that his power just goes fuck you and exponentially rises to his opponent in the scenario they are somehow stronger to kick their ass. Like a lazier more grounded gurren lagann from what they've done with it so far
>>748102919Boros? Garou?
>>748103057In the webcomic (AKA the real unraped OPM) he stomps both. He was playing along with Boros in all versions so he could have his fight and Garou couldn’t match up to him because of his half hearted efforts to become a monster
>>748094204tahu should have won
>>748094204>Watch death battleI haven't watched that in like 15 years. I can only imagine how phoned in it's become and even worse with the bad logic and power scal
>>748102919It’s the easiest way to garner views, a quick 3,000,000. >saitama lazyHe did an “intense” workout for a few years that made him transcend physiological limits. He’s sort of lazy in the sense that he squats in an apartment in the worst part of the city, but he’s actually the epitome of a hero who just kills monsters for the love of the game. But in the series there’s a whole running gag where the general populace doesn’t accept his power, they call him a cheat who steals victories from others and is just there for the fame when it’s really the opposite. The hero association only exists because he saved the founder’s son one day, unknown to everyone including himself. But yes ever since the end of the MA arc in the Murata manga (which is 100% what they’ll scale off of), Saitama’s power hasn’t just been insanely high, but it can literally grow and adapt on the fly to the point where Saitama will never find anyone who can truly give him a worthy fight. Goku has a similar mechanic with his Zenkai boosts and just ability to overcome odds in general, but it’s nowhere near as strong as Saitama’s because it’s part of the character’s gag.
>>748094204It was alright, definitely better than the original, though that's not saying much.>>748099560Is he the strongest King for having the most wins or the weakest for having the most losses?>>748102554>pity win episode followed by the ultimate pity win episodelaaaaaame
Fun episode.
>>748102919
>>748094204>Conceptual advantage against humans
My fuarking king. I never doubted you
>>748102751They all are Mentally broken, most are from /pol/
>>748099560Obviously
Mewtwo's cool, but I like Zekrom better.
>Sonic characters are the strongACK
>>748106845That's not Reshiram
>>748094204god damn that animation was fucking epic. how they do that so good. that was official tier
>>748094204MOGGEDOGGED
>>748102919>>748103037>>748103396>he's a gag, looney toonyregardless, he is stronger than any other character. and his power is unknown.
Mewtwo is a THEY/THEM.
Legendary Pokémon lose to a beagle, why are they in the powerscaling discussion?
>>748104142I love this manga so much but it takes too long for chapters to come out.
>>748107717They killed the non-binary character? Erm, a bit problematic.
>>748108506Okay, this...is epic.
I literally LMAO when I saw this Next Time. They had this fucker die 3 times to Superman and now will just give him a pity win against Saitama
>Death battle get so fucking desperate to make this bad matchup even that they attempt to argue that Mewtwo is comparable in strength to fucking Dialga, Palkia and Giratina.Shit is nonsense and Mewtwo wouldn’t even be able to handle Black Doom let alone Shadow.
>>748108687lol
>>748108747That shit baffled me. I get that you dont want it to be a stomp but this shit is obviously a stomp
>>748102919Saitama is basically the equivalent of putting a fully equipped, max level character at the start of a video game and just playing it normally one-shotting everything until he gets to endgame. Saitama isn't some Gag character that punches things to dust, he actually has a limit, we just don't know what it is because there is no one that can give him a challenge.
>>748108747>>748108892Yeah when I saw them scale Mewtwo to the creation trio, I knew Shadow already won the episodeDon't get me wrong, the fight was actually pretty damn good but Death Battle has an issue of making fights seem closer than they actually are.. They don't want to make the character getting stomped look like a complete fraud but it's almost impossible to avoid it. I think it's the main reason why that came up with this category system so they can give the losing character some pity points
>>748108747>>Death battle get so fucking desperate to make this bad matchup even that they attempt to argue that Mewtwo is comparable in strength to fucking Dialga, Palkia and Giratina.Mewtwo is unironically.Later anime seasons show Mew can casually transform into the other box legendaries, it carries the DNA and powers of all pokemon. Mewtwo was cloned from Mew and both are comparable. So yes, Mewtwo is likely equal to the Creation Trio.
>>748108687Saitama wins actually
>Casually enters the thread....
>>748095775I don't like the fact Pokemon is so cherry picked in this stuff. You cant have the strengths of the anime versions without the weaknesses of the anime versions.
>Character can move X times FTL! If you can go FTL...YOU DON'T HAVE A SPEED LIMIT! IT'S A POINTLESS CALCULATION!
>>748109913This nigger is just a parody character at this point. He's like the one punch man except he's put in a setting where he's taken seriously by the world and everyone knows him. So like the opposite of the one punch man but just far less fun or interesting.
>>748110237Speed calcs also just don't matter when characters who regularly stop time are involved.
>>748094204Couldn't Mewtwo just mindrape him and make him forget why they are even fighting?
>>748110742No sells it due to Black Doom stuff and chaos emerald super form makes him outright immune
>>748110742Listen, the chaos emeralds can do things they have never been shown doing! Deathbattle's "research team" is full of shit. After Kratos vs Asura, I do not understand how people don't see it.
>>748110807Can you repeat that in english?
>>748110742Gen 10 needs to make a priority move that drops all of your stats by 1 before that can happen.
>Shadow beats MewtwoHOW
>>748111014uhh, it is shadow, retard
>SHITdow
Why is Goku in the next one? Ultra Instinct is filled with unexplained powers like that Moro fight.
>>748094204Pretty cool animation. The me first was a nice touch
>>748108405i know, i read this kind of posts a lot of times.But yeah, In Death Battle, Versus is Effective against MHA and One piece.
>>748111014All psychic nonsense Mewtwo has done, is all something shadow has faced and overcome before or was held back by the fine print of the moves and how they work in pokemon.>Mind/Body/Soul manipuation hax = Black Doom and Ifrit>Stat swaps only work on things like sword dance not transformations, so no Super Mewtwo>Mimic, too slow/reactionary to copy Chaos Control>Me first, can only copy attack moves>Trick room + Other fields = Limited range, Shadow can just leave.Basically the Hax man fought mr.resistances and lost.
>>748111014Pokemon aren't actually that strong. Literal children run around and collect them like baseball cards.
>>748111014because he's stronger
>>748108687Shit like this is missing the entire point of OPM, I don’t know how you could call yourself a fan and actually want to see this
>>748113085shadow is so fucking lame
>>748108687>Implying Saitama is losing
Death battle threads in /co/ are so funny.
>>748107148Yup, they are.
>>748114048Shadow’s not the one who got his ass beat lmao
>dark type beats psychic typeWhat should have been from the beginning
I can finally post this image.
>>748115207Kek
>>748107521The me first rug pull was pretty good
>>748094204Cool that Shadow won but the true winner of the video was that beautifuly made animation
>>748120450Yea dude stuff is really good, haven’t had anything this good since the cell vs metal sonic
>>748120450This, I only watch these because the animations are usually very well done
>Shadow stomps Arceus and the creation triokek
>>748121087Arceus would dumpster Shadow.
>>748121087nop
Pokemon should just retire from DB after losing to Digimon, Yugioh and Sonic.
>>748094923Supermans been raped canonically.
>>748109898Going by stats in their actual series Goku is massively stronger than Saitamas best feat.If you go by the statement of Saitama being able to grow stronger mid battle, then you have to accept that Goku does the exact same thing canonically.Saitama starts the fight weaker
>>748113085How come black doom wears a star of david, is he jewish?
>>748113246And Shadow was knocked out by some shitty robot
>>748122586So was VegetaA girl robot at that.
>>748121706They put tournament Mewtwo above Arceus
>>748122612Still less humiliating than getting knocked out by a random guard robo and having Rouge drag your ass on the street.
>>748094204So what’s next, are they going to rematch him against Vegeta?I’d kinda like to see how they could possibly justify him beating current anime Vegeta let alone manga with Ultra Ego when he couldn’t even beat SSJ2 Vegeta the first time.
Don't drop the soap
>>748123187Just use Archie Shadow and Vegeta jobs.
>>748107148>>748115225Non canon shit that nerfs characters on a whim. I don't take either panel seriously.
>>748123187>I'd kind of like to see how they could possibly justify him beating current anime Vegeta let alone manga with Ultra Ego when he couldn't even beat SSJ2 Vegeta the first timeSame way they had Silver spank Xenoverse Trunks. Just bring in archie comics wank
>>748123248>Just use Archie Shadow and Vegeta jobs.Then bring in Xeno Vegeta and he destroys him. Archie Shadow is also the biggest jobber in that comic.
>>748123425Xeno Vegeta would win yeah.But since you mentioned anime and manga Vegeta I was just saying how a version of Shadow would beat those two versions of Vegeta.
>>748123248Does Archie Shadow even have any impressive feats? When people bring Archie into the equation it's usually because of the super early shit where Sonic vibrated through walls
>>748123415That was strictly a non canon vs non canon battle though (which even Ian flynn disagreed with). DB makes it clear what versions they're using or not.
>>748123513Not really but neither did Silver and he won against Heroes/Xenoverse Trunks
>>748123497I'm not the original poster, but yeah, makes sense.
>>748123520Ian only disagreed about Silver being allowed the chaos emeralds + time stones which no shit of course he'd lose then
>>748123547Archie Silver was redirecting attacks from Endgame Enerjak back at him, that's more of an argument for his scaling to high tiers than Archie Shadow.
>>748122725You mean the rainbow rocket Mewtwo? It’s strong but Arceus is on another level. Frankly I don’t think Mewtwo could even beat Ultra Necrozma in a fight but whatever
>>748123425They already said Archie Super Silver is stronger than anyone in all of Dragon Ball. Any Archie Super form is overkill.
>>748123668base archie super silver was contesting with a guy who made archie super sonic his bitch, i think he's a special case
>>748123721base archie silver was*
>>748103541>Is he the strongest KingNo, that goes to Jack. Jack is Solaris on roids.
>>748109662Not really, as the creation trios are avatars of high dimensional beings responsible for the creation of the universe. Arceus is basically god while mew's simply adam.
>>74812365806 is canon to Archie which means Shadow clowned on Silver
>>748123796Holy fuck how have I not made that connection between Mew and Adam in all this time. That’s pretty cool actually
>>748123721Silver only won because of something Sonic did. They had Sonic's SGW Chaos Control be the deciding factor.
>>748123841>06 is canon to Archie which means Shadow clowned on SilverEvents happen differently across comic from game. Until we see Archie Shadow do that, he's the biggest jobber.
>>748123661More referring to the game nod bit >In tournament rankings, Mewtwo's outclassing god
>>748123415Meanwhile IDW Silver used a sneak attack and that didn't win on the spot
>>748123876Eve's more fitting, but fuck patriarchy I guess.
>>748123928It was how they gave Silver super form despite him never getting it in archie comics. It is what it is.
>>748110326Yujiro is fun. He's like a Looney Toons or Popeye character in world full of Naruto characters. The jackhammer chapters were the funniest things I've read in a while.
>>748123972Is that Gas from dbs as a Mobian?
Also, Death Battlebis based off of Feats shown in official materials. Just imagine Mewtwo vs. Cell instead; fuck, imagine Shadiw vs. Cell.
>>74812384106 Shadow vs SIlver was a stalemate until Shadow started using chaos emeralds to have an advantage, when Silver started using them it stalemated again, then they stopped it early.
It's sad. Powerscaling is all that Sonicfags have left.
>>748115207He's right.
>>748124092No, he's a guy who turns into other people but he really shouldn't be strong enough to do this.
>>748124139
>>748124139and a successful movie franchiseand great music
>>748111014Created to harness the power of the God Stones known as the Chaos Emeralds. Technically, that what the Chaos Emeralds are, Godstones; similar to that of the infinity stones of Marvel fame. >>748113246Pokémon Trainers and Pokéballs deliberately held them back to reduce collateral damage along with death; It's the reason why Cyrus wanted to enslave Dialuga/Palkia to reshape reality with the red chain, as he's unable to do it otherwise.
>>748110828>Listen, the chaos emeralds can do things they have never been shown doing! Deathbattle's "research team" is full of shitThey go by feats alone, or what's stated in official materials.
>>748094792I haven’t kept up with Death Battle in years but Metal Sonic to me feels like a good example of how it feels like DB slowly went from>This is how the character is generally portrayed in the source materialTo>These characters could blink and 999 multiverses disappearLike I think Metal Sonic beating Cell is really funny but then I’m left wondering why he’s always a turbojobber in the games who doesn’t do 99% of what the stats say
>>748125527Nah they've been doing that way before that fight
>>748122612>So was Vegeta...by a non-canon gag character
>>748123661>Red Rocket Mewtwofraud
>>748125527Metal looked cool in Bowser/Eggman and his own episode with Cell but his powerlevel is straight up fanfiction.>his copying ability is probably this broken>he probably uses the emeralds as well as Sonic does>he's probably up there with Solaris and Time EaterBut the games themselves just don't hold any of that up.
Metal… DOWNSCALE?
>>748108687KEKKKKKK
>>748110237What? FTL speed still takes finite time to cover a finite distance
>>748094204LIVE AND LEARN
>>748121830The old Digimon vs Pokèmon Death Battle still holds up really well and the Yu-Gi-Oh battle is absolute cinema.
>>748125527>>748125981Not a sonic fan but I'm pretty sure Metal suffers from being a mix of potential type character but also being Eggman's pet so he'll never really be the big bad final boss and will always job before getting to that status
>>748126489>Pokemon eps are some of the most kino animations they've done>However they lose most of them barring Machamp VS Goro
>>748094204>Already at 1.1 million views>One of their best animations of all timeOnly the best for the king of /v/
>>748112198>All the heroes in MHA are human, even though their Quirks transform them into various forms related to their superpowers.Yikes!
So when are they gonna do Pokémon vs. Palword with Necrozuma Ultra vs. a bitch and her Lavos?
>>748127021Pokemon lore and pokedex's data is far more unhinged than that of Palworld, which seems more solid.
>>748125527The concept of Scaling ruined vs matchup debates.
>>748102919>Why do they keep putting him up against non-toonforce characters?The No Limits Fallacy.There's this idea that there's no such thing as a character with infinite power and a limit does exist somewhere, so Saitama can be beaten if autists can find what this limit is.
>>748108687Saitamakeks always butt their way in powerscaling arguments so hopefully this shuts them down for good
>>748094204>I'M GLOWING? WHY THE FUCK AM I GLOWING??I'm so glad they stopped being fucking cringe. I can guarantee we won't have to listen to that faggot who did Goku in the abridged show next episode. Death Battle is so fucking back!
>>748125527>I’m left wondering why he’s always a turbojobber in the games who doesn’t do 99% of what the stats sayThey aren’t real, they’re fictional characters who are subjected to the whims of whoever’s dictating their actions. The winner of these match-ups isn’t based on who’s stronger or has more feats, but rather whoever the writer wants to win. It’s why death battle is fundamentally stupid and childish
>>748127505>DBZAbrigedits funny to me how they're somehow still around yet dont even make anything people want to watch anymore.
>Shadow is univer-AIIEEEEE
>>748094495Shadow would be dark/psychic. Sonic would be normal/electric. Knuckles fire/ground.Tails Flying/Steel.Amy Fighting/NormalCream Flying/FairyRouge Dark/FlyingVector Dark/Sound... if there was a FUCKING SOUND TYPE. FUCK YOU NINTENDO
>>748125527Eggman nerfed him so he can't go Neo Metal any moreAlso characters at their peak aren't theoretical potentials, it's a canonical apex of attributes they've had at least once. This contrasts heavily with the so called "potential man", where scalers make claims like>b-but he trained for 5 years straight!thinking that those statements would help aid their self-proclaimed rebuttals.
>>748127021
>>748127720>dark/psychicSo he would be 4x weak to Charmy?
>>748127021Palworld is relatively more grounded and still new
>>748106845Would be great without the stupid tail.
>>748127720>Knuckles fire/ground.fighting?
>>748127720There's nothing about Shadow that suggests Dark type other than being black and edgy.Might as well say Necrozma is a dark type.
>>748127720Rock/Fighting is better for Knuckles
>>748127720I’d say Amy is better suited to Fairy/Fighting and then Sonic gets to have Normal/Fighting but otherwise these are fine
>>748127950Knuckles digs, summons meteorites, glides and creates fire with his fists. He is too complex to just be a fighting type.
Didn't Silver lost to a Eggpawn?
>>748128037Dark type is literally called the “Evil type” in Japanese, but that doesn’t mean dark type Pokémon are necessarily evil. Like Absol, it appears before disasters not because it causes them, but because it senses them in advance and tries to warn people. Also Shadow was made with evil alien DNA.
>>748128037That is how the verse works. Literally red and black.
>>748128037Doom powers would definitely fall under Dark type.
>>748122295Yeah, Saitama would have to survive long enough that his up-scaling power takes off, which is hard when he is multi-solar system against Goku who is universal+
>>748128470Blaze Tauros is my favorite dark type.
>>748128037>There's nothing about Shadow that suggests Dark type other than being black and edgy.He tried to kill everyone over grief. His DNA is from the Black Arms, a evil alien race.
>Let's scale Goku off of an unfinished story that is wildly different between the manga and the anime
Lmao, what happened to all of those cocky Saitama glazers that were spouting about how he solos Goku and DB years ago?
>>748129239The funny part is Saitama might end up winning depending what they use along with his canon power evolution
>>748128037The doom alien stuff for one
>>748129239saitama might be stupid and challenge goku to a food eating contest
>>748128470I will never stop being mad.
This is how Next Time feels
they really need to stop doing the "lets consider ALL material as canon" when that clearly never works and they keep missing stuff that would edge out certain characters a win
Silver should use his power to infinitely divide the speed of other people’s attacks
>>748132474Nah, that's technically still good. What's not good is the "he beats it, he powerscales to it".It's like everyone is kirby and suddenly can copy the feats of everyone.It's low iq powerscaling, like saying paper beats rock because it beats scissors.
Technically speaking Mewtwo should have won like it did in the first battle.Even though shadow has proven to have mind control resistance, he still isn't total immune to it.And at that point you have to compare black doom vs mewtwo in psych abilities., which mewtwo wins by a lot. IIRC black doom mind control is limited to DNA, which means his mind control is akin to animal instincts, psych mind control works differently more akin to rewiring your brain psychically.And that's ignoring that future sight and his iq, shadow maybe faster and can stop time but future sight is basically the counter for that if you have the right tools, which mewtwo has.
>>748132474 The reason the G1 blog made Mewwo win is because they considered the Pokemon TCG canon.>>748136054I disagree because Mewtwo shouldnt ever know more than 4 moves.
>>748094361Based.
>Shadow wonbased and correct
>>748137714it doesn't matter if you limit mewtwo moves, not every psychic ability is a move lol. Like, mewtwo speaks through your mind, i don't see any "Speak in your mind" move.