Just take off the nostalgia goggles for a second. Ocarina of Time has aged poorly. It happens to any game eventually. It sucks, but it's true. It was great for it's time, but now? It just doesn't hold up. The empty world, the linearity, the basic combat, and it's only like 30hrs long at best. That just doesn't hold up to todays standards.Nintendo knows this. So is this really a 1:1 remake? They must know that after Botw and Totk another archaic linear and short 3D Zelda isn't going to met the standards of the new fanbase that overwhelmingly dwarfs the old one right? Can't really be 1:1. So what are they really plotting here? There has to be some FF7R tier bait and switch. Or just like how they hid the depths when advertising Totk, they're hiding some that significant. They have to be...
>>748118938Hasn't aged poorly at all, which is why this is a 1:1 remake and Nintendo doesn't even bother changing anything big besides graphicsYou are hating on this game for 20 years now and it didn't move the needle one bit. Everyone is excited for this lazy remakeGet a life
Not exactly a 1:1 remake but pretty close. The minimap for hyrule field and kokiri village look about the same size as the original.
>>748118938while what you say is logical and potentially true; but consider this. Have you seen modern UE5 slops? Did they really exceed the best we have over decades ago? Answer these in your heart and you will know OOT is still decent, especially with a new coat of paint. Is pretty good for a kid game.
>>748119270>Hasn't aged poorly at all
>>748120080That you have to resort to the same webm proves it. Picrel is 100 times worse and no one complained. Get a life already
>>748118938Troll thread, OP is still right though. Yet $70 is nothing to me and if I even get even 10 min of nostalgic joy it will have been worth it so buying.
>>748118938november will be a very fun month on /v/
>>748118938>The empty worldnot empty, every area is dense except the field and fields are supposed to be big and open, makes finding epona and unlocking the overworld shortcuts fun>the basic combatgames have basic combat to this day because the basics are the best thing. dark souls is essentially hit enemy, press dodge button when enemy attacks, hit enemy again. they just have to make it harder because oot was designed for an audience before 200 souls like games. if they don't do that, then that's indeed retarded but not the original's fault>and it's only like 30hrs long at bestthat's not a negative. totk is as long as it is because of copy paste caves where you find dlc costumes from botw>linear the game opens up almost completely right away and you can even do multiple dungeons out of order (desert, shadow, bottom of the well, leave dungeons after getting the item, etc.)>>748119515>while what you say is logical and potentially truewhat you say is retarded
>>748120080it's not exactly "aged poorly" when the gaming industry hasn't moved past this
>>748120080I just finished the newest Tales of game and it literally doesn't have a single puzzle even though Tales of games always had puzzles. I WISH it had OoT's weakest puzzles. Or also Xenoblade games, it's crazy how there is virtually no interactivity in them.
>>748119270>You are hating on this game for 20 years now and it didn't move the needle one bit. Everyone is excited for this lazy remakeAnti-OoTfag should be on suicide watch
>>748120545As a xenogears and xenosaga fan I am saddened beyond belief about the dumpster fire that is Xenoblade. After playing 2 I cant grasp the appeal of a single player MMO designed to sexually frustrate you.
>>748118938It's true. Combat is simple to the point of being brainless. Dungeons aren't fun when you know how to solve them. Idk how people can play this once every year. It has a great atmosphere, but the game itself is so braindead easy.
>>748118938>It happens to any game eventuallyNo, it doesn't. I still enjoy 'pac-girl' for DOS. People enjoy tennis which is hundred of years old. If a 'game' aged it's not a game, it's a soem kind of place/story simulator instead. An actual game cannot 'age'.
>>748120080Today the block would have yellow paint on it so retards know you can move it.
>>748118938>Ocarina of Time has aged poorly>Still has better combat than any fromslop/parryslop game or action rpg post 360/ps3 era>has actual dungeons, not like botw or totk in which the mechas are a joke a completely optional>even when the map is small there is still more content than going from point A to B >tries to compare it to FF7R, a fanfiction that cut off the entire game in 3 parts, making the first entry just Midgar, the first 4 hours of the original game.Even if it was a 1:1 Remake without any new content it would still be great just for the simple fact that its a recreation of the best action game ever created, offering better graphics and not just simply basic upscaling like most "remakes" do
>>748118938I think it is sad that a grown ass man cannot move past a kid's game. It was 30 years ago. this remake is for your kids, not you. It is like complaining about barbie horse adventure is too easy. Move on.
>>748120774its truly bizarre that nintendos flagship (and only) jrpg is an offline mmo. i really like the world building, scope, music, and characters in xenoblade, but the actual battling makes me want to eat a shotgun sandwich. its just so, so terrible. really hope they improve it for xeno4 but im sure they wont.
>>748120783>it's easy when you mastered it!Guess what, Zelda games are made to be played through once. They don't even have a new game+
>>748121186>I think it is sad that a grown ass man cannot move past a kid's gameLike you hating on OoT for 30 years and thinking posts like this are fooling anyone?
>>748119270fpbp/thread
>>748118938It is 1:1.>There has to be some FF7R tier bait and switchWhen has Nintendo ever done anything like that?When it comes to Nintendo games you should ALWAYS go by what's literally shown. Assume nothing beyond that. They are not known for surprises.It's a 1:1 just like the LA remake and Star Fox remake.
>>748121417what? I dont think about OOT for the last 30 years. I finished it and move on to Warcraft 3 / smash bro or something 30 years ago. You are the one obsessing about a kid's game. Us normal adult sees the OOT remake "oh great, I am going to buy this for our kids". you are the one seething about how you peaked 30 years ago with this sad man child post.
>>748121621That's not true.They're adding a jump button and BotW inventory controls. For some reason.
>>748121364If I can't play something a second time and enjoy it, it's simply not a good game. Mario 64 and Sonic Adventure are fun on subsequent playthroughs. OoT I just go through the same path every time with very little difference in gameplay style. The only way to make it fun in subsequent playthroughs is to glitch the game and do silly stuff like skipping the sword and shield, but that's only fun up to a certain point.
>>748120774>>748121206
>>748118938Nu tendo is retarded, simple as. Japs are out of touch
>>748121621I think Metroid Zero Mission is really the only Nintendo remake that had any big surprise
it's 60 bucks so no it's not going to have a bunch of additional cool shit.
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>>748121671It's 1:1 in terms of the actual content, adding a jump button is basically meaningless if the level design is still the same. At best they've made tiny adjustments here and there. It's nothing substantial like new dungeons, added challenges, etc. It's all the same stuff with new graphics.Compare it to something like the first Resident Evil remake (which is considered "faithful") which makes a shitton of changes to the content to the point that it's essentially a new game. And that was only a 6 year gap.>>748121758That's another good example and the rare time a Nintendo remake actually made substantial changes. Of course that was 22 years ago.
>>748121932Why must everything I hold dear be infested by these retards? I will never be able to talk about the original without someone like this popping up now.
>>748121932We need to come up with a name for this kind of insipid posting style. Something really trashy that retards can spam, akin to "slop"
>>748122048You need to come to terms that gaming is for the lowest browed retards possible.Look at that AI gen'd minecraft steve. Look at it and realize this is who they've been catering to for decades.
>>748122143I hate these faggots so much. I miss when they would laugh at you for being a gamer instead of larping and pretending to care about your hobby while doing crap like this. Like just fuck off and stop infesting our spaces. I wish someone would do this to their hobbies.
>>748122048Good. Suffer.
>>748118938>Ocarina of Time has aged poorly. You're correct.>1:1Somewhat, it's not exactly a 1:1 recreation. I did notice a few small changes, like Link blocking the Iron Knuckle's attack. But yes, it's almost a 30 year old game with outdated combat and core design. Original looked great considering the 1998 hardware limitations, but the remake has horrendous models because of the mediocre art direction.>Just take off the nostalgia goggles for a second.Fanboys, including the ones that work in the media, will eat that shit up due to the brand power, resulting in 90 to 95 scores at the bare minimum. Game journalism is a joke, people are more lenient (sometimes straight up afraid to criticize, no one wants to be the next "Twilight Princess 8.8") with Nintendo games.
>>748122251Trolling is their hobbies. You think they have friends or money for anything else?
>>748122290Die
>>748122440Nope, I'm going to live.
>>748118938Contemporary standards are awful. Completely focus on quantity rather than quality. I don´t want a million busywork sidequest that add nothing to the main game and force me to revisit areas a thousand times. I´d rather have fewer quests that add something to the experience (useful tools, information about relevant characters or unique boss encounters or areas). I don´t want a thousand NPCs that only serve to make the world seem more populated or ubisoft tier buildings that allow me to search areas and fill my map with sidequest marks, i want the unknown, the exploration and discovery, the adventure... i certainly don´t want it to look like AI or unreal slop that make everything feel grounded. I literally want the opposite, a transportative fairy tale look.
>>748122425>Trolling is their hobbies
>>748118938No one is taking the goggles off.Some french sold two bundles of OoT preorder items (no game) for 1k USD a pieceHe still has a third listing up A thousand dollars for three shiny rocks and a video game wallet
>>748118938It's a puzzle game and people got significantly dumber since then. The "improvements" are making it easier so younger generations can play through it without guides and enjoy it.
>>748121932I like how there is actual color instead of washed out dullness
>>748122527>I-Is that...is that optional...content??? AHHHHHHHHH I'M GOING INSAAANNNEEEGenuinely don't get why you schizos are like this, but well that's why you're called schizos I suppose.
>>748118938looking forward to more amazing changes like this>>748122784
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>>748122890>and people got significantly dumber since thenBOTW's puzzles are far more sophisticated and people got through those.
>>748118938i never breat zelda oot as a kid and now i hate video games
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Man, bait used to be believable.
>>748123308are you indian or why would you think the brown shit on the right looks better?
>>74812359799% of BotW puzzles are optional or you can bruteforce them or they aren't tied to something as punishing as having to run through a big creepy dungeon trying to look for the one little thing you forgot.>>748123964It's not bait, it's that disabled Sega janny from /vr/ crying about OoT every day of his life.
>>748121364>They don't even have a new game+Except for Zelda 1, Zelda 2, wind waker, all the hd reskins on the wiiu, ocarina of time 3d and arguably the original ocarina of time if you count the master quest gamecube disc.
>>748124162>Except for Zelda 1changes the whole game, not comparable to other zeldas>Zelda 2,shit game miyamoto publicly disavowed>outsourced dog shit hd ports desperate for a selling pointno>master questchanges the whole game
>>748124132>99% of BotW puzzles are optional or you can bruteforce them or they aren't tied to something as punishing as having to run through a big creepy dungeon trying to look for the one little thing you forgot.
>>748118938The game we're getting is 1:1 the same puzzles, same platforming, same story events in the same order, and everything.I agree that OoT feels old enough to filter people unless they're willing to play something that feels old, just like you can enjoy an Alfred Hitchcock film if you know what you're getting yourself into, whereas in 1998 and even the early 2000s the game at least felt quite relevant.But it's the storytelling, the atmosphere and excellence of the dungeon layouts that made me a fan of the game, and those things are mostly going to be the same in the remake. In fact, I have a strong suspicion the story won't be good in the remake, because all you have to do to ruin it is replace its melancholy and poetry with filler-dialogue and over-explained story themes instead of being poetic. The original game has a slightly blunt translation but the writing is not bad, and its meaning is excellent. The way the Saria cutscene looks when she says goodbye now looks kinda bland. It was such an evocative moment in the original, when the frame shows her standing by the bridge and Link near the exit. The new cutscene doesn't seem to have that. instead they're both just "hanging out" and she's very easily moving on while saying goodbye and that it's okay. But in the original the purpose was that she knows the life they had together permanently ends in that very moment, and he will never be the boy who could become her life companion, because he's not like her, so she's saying goodbye, and he just thinks he's leaving for an adventure to return when it's done... and then later in the game he learns there's a reason why he never felt like one of the Kokiris.Stuff like that I don't think will be properly re-explained in the remake. It'll be explained but it'll be done with cheesy and cutesy flavor-text that ruins it.The remake is more outdated in this sense. All modern games are, where shit writing is the default.
>>748124710>instead of being poeticYou were told to take the goggles off.
>>748120080Look at this unc shit gameplay. It needs more QTEs.
it's funny how haters can't agree on whether OoT was too easy or too cryptic
>>748124442You are the one who moved it to BotW in the first place, I just corrected you. But yeah tell yourself the BotW water "dungeon" has the same filter potential as OoT's.Last bump from me for your daily "actually, the highest rated game ever is bad!" thread.
>>748125223>You are the one who moved it to BotW in the first placeYou brought up people getting dumber since OOT, I just corrected you.
outside of framerate, Breath of the Wild has aged worse in 10 years than Ocarina of Time has in 30
>>748123308>Left>Rock that stands out that you can blow up>Gentle slops of dried out grass>Stone wall in the distance>Everything is clear and distinct at a glance>Right>BLOOM AND BROWN>Everything visually blends together and the only reason the enemy stands out is it's eye is glowing>pointless visual clutter for muhgraphicsLeft looks better.
>boomers shit on ever good rated game, calling them paid or making up other excuses for why they don't count>but when it's a game from their childhood suddenly its rating counts
>>748123308Left is better for a video game
>>748123976>>748125546>>748125687
>>748125631Score inflation, Its pretty bad. Mid games used to get a 7/10.
>>748122734Im pretty rich so IDK.
>>748125727yeah I'd need glasses to make sense of whatever the fuck is going on in right it's such a visual mess
>it's such a visual mess
>>748118938Nintendo didn't make it directly. It was a team from monolith soft. If they did it directly things would be added. But since it's not them I don't think they would trust any major changes like that.
>>748121206I thought for sure I was the only person in the world that had problems with Xenoblade's gameplay. Saddened me that only that retard Dunkey agreed with me.
>>748121708This nigga obviously never played xenogears.
>>748118938>the basic combatWould you prefer the garbage in nuzelda?
>>748118938You are so terrified of this game TotK fag, and I love watching your daily terror as it inches ever closer.You are terrified that people will remember what Zelda used to be like and you are equally terrified that people will prefer it. No matter how much you scream, OoT is coming. And it will destroy your years-long ambition to gaslight people into thinking BotW was the first time Zelda was ever good.You and Arin Hanson can go fuck yourselves.
>>748119505I remember feeling like the minimal for Hyrule field actually looked smaller, I was probably imagining things though
>>748123976>>748125546>>748125945>OH MY GOD DUDE FUCK OFF WITH THIS BROWN BLOOM SHIT I CAN'T SEE SHIT WHAT THE FUCK DUDE WHERE'S THE COLOR
>>748118938Fuck off.
i dont like the new logo.i cant be the only one.its woke.i really dont like it
>>748126012since you like dogshit lets add brown and blooms favorite friend, motion blur.>>748126463>posts a high saturation photoShut in nigger thinks this is what the outside actually looks like at dusk.
No one is capable of proving OoT and MM have aged poorly, they are perfect games. I personally love MM much more, but both games are perfect. I cannot be proven wrong, cope and seeth.
>>748126575>they are perfect games>>748120080
>>748126389I wish this was true, but its not. We lost anon. TotK catered to the 72 IQ Brazil/India demographic and was rewarded heavily. Its the end of the middle class Japanese / white man supremacy. It is the age of Gacha now.
>>748126575I really dont want this remake, but MM would be awesome.
>>748126541Yeah you legitimately need glasses lmao
>>748126575All changes made to Zelda games after OoT/MM have been downgrades. Zelda games would've been so much better had they stuck to their own creative vision instead of copying current trends.
>>748126690If anything's gonna topple BotWism, it won't be sheer reception, but how it's just not sustainable as a game design model to make the standard going forward, especially not paired with EPD's increasingly nasty habit of feature/tech creep over the past decade. TotK should've been a relatively fast asset flip but it ended up taking even longer than BotW itself and nearly twice the manpower.
>>7481265414chan: elegy of the damned. Act 4. Pretend to be retarded.
>>748126667This was already disproven, read the thread. Cope and seethe.
>>748118938>It happens to any game eventuallytetris, packman, donkey kong, mario bros, LoZ, castlevania, space cadet pinball, fucking chessI could go on, these games are evergreen and you are full of shit
>>748127039You lost
They got better with MM, but the graphics have aged, mainly the textures. Spyro, Megaman Legends and Crash all came out in the same year as oot and they look miles better by comparison. All 3 allow you to skip cutscenes and speed up text too.>B-But just press B!Not 90% of the time. It's retardedly slow on purpose and that's evident by the beta builds letting you mash your way through text.Anyways, the PC port fixes the most of the games issues, so go play that instead and quit crying.
>>748118938They have updated gameplay, tons of new dialogue and cutscenes, and we can infer based on the new brand consistency mandate they will add on to the story, at the very least explaining why Link doesn't talk in this one, like they did for BotW, EoW, and they're doing for the movie. My guess is that they got a new dungeon or two as well. And I think there's an item upgrading system because some footage shows the hookshot with a kino laser sight and others don't. Hopefully, it comes with a dungeon maker.
>>748126864>Zelda games would've been so much better had they stuck to their own creative vision instead of copying current trends.How so? What was each game's vision prior to them chasing a trend?
Why do Mexicans constantly talk about how they have gone through everything bad ever and have more of a say on anything? OoT is good is good you dumbass.
>>748127341>we win for not having an actual new 3D Zelda for at least a decade
>>748127525The next 3d zelda will be out in 2028 or 2029, 5 - 6 years after totk. Not a decade.
>>748127762TotK was BotW DX. Not a new game.
>>748127501All with dumbed down mechanics and puzzles, amateurish voice acting, overzealous graphics and supplemental """content""" for iphone kiddies that basically amounts nothing of value to the overall experience. That'll be $60 + tax + tip.
>>748127784Sure sure doomer whatever you say. Next 3d zelda is still coming out 5 - 6 years after Totk though.
>>748127501>tons of new dialogue and cutscenes,Why is this being portrayed as a good thing? Go back to fellating wolverine if this is considered a priority for you.
>>748127874>overzealous graphicsWhy can't you people just stop forcing yourselves to be contrarians? Is it really that hard to stop?
>>748118938>The empty worldThere's unironically more shit to do in the OoT map than in BotW
>>748128383No, it's objectively true. TotK was just BotW with some shit bolted onto it and remixed. Zelda will be stuck with BotW being the newest 3D entry/continuity for well over a decade.
>>748128481Who wants more graphics shoved into a game? All it does is bloat the budget unnecessarily, to pander to snoys who want muh realism. Without their stupid obsession with graphics, they could've sold this for 10 bucks on the eshop.
>>748122096its called toxic positivity, he's trying to be heckin positive about the remake by being an insufferable dickhead about the old one and being mean to anyone that doesn't agree with him while also implying that he's doing it because they're bad and deserve it and he's doing a good thing
>>748128481Oh, I'm sorry, anon. I forgot it's based on some puppet theater slop that's flimsy evidence at best, so forgive me for not sucking it off. Now I have a newfound appreciation for WHY it looks like shit and stop asking questions! :D
>>748128481>Why can't you people just stop forcing yourselves to be contrarians? Is it really that hard to stop?
>>748128612>it's objectively trueYou can keep saying it doomer, but the next game will still be here in just 2-3 more years.
>>748129329you just said 5-6
>>748127039Don't, dont give me hope.
>>748129501I said 5-6 after totk. And totk came out in 2023. Get it now retard?
>>748128930Kek, had they focused on technology and investing in an IT manufacturing plant they would be 20x wealthier now. What a retard!
