What is the hardest game you've ever played?
Dark Souls
>>748137918bait image aside, what's that on the far right?
Dwarf Fortress filtered me harder than anything else I've played. That was before they added graphic packs and accessibility features by default
>>748137918super meat boy isn't hard. it's just repetitive precision platforming slopnow put some fuckin zachtronics games on the higher side
>>748137918 zelda 2
>>748137918seihou project maybe>>748138029i wanna kill the kamilia
>>748138029I Wanna Kill The Kamilia
>>748137918>i wana be the boshiis iwbtg too retro for the kids now?
>>748138168that's right next to it genius
>>748138087>super meat boy isn't hardI couldn’t even get past the first stage or two, dropped it right away. Beat plenty of other “hard” games over the years as well.
>>748138168I feel like people underestimate how hard boshy is just because a lot of streamers have played it. It is very hard even amongst iwbtg type games.iwbtg is more like a meme troll game rather than a tough platformer also
>>748138204no that's i wanna kill the guy. Im talking about I wana be the guy. The one with the apples.
>>748138215as a platformer, it just forces you to do one precise path really optimally, which can be fun for a bit, but creative varied approaches are one of the core aspects of enjoyable platforming, so it really outstays its welcome if you want to beat the game or god forbid get all the achievements>>748138241fuck sake how many of these retarded games are there
>>748137918Gitaroo Man, Umihara Kawase, Touhou.>>748138087Yeah, I honestly didn't find Super Meat Boy too tough.
>>748138232idk. i only played iwbtg, and that was in middle school. But I did beat it on hard mode and once I got the hang of it I didn't think it was so terrible. Im not sure what the difference is but I assume a meme troll game is harder than a "good" platformer? It was quite the bitch to complete. Especially mother brain and some of the later spike rooms with optional areas.
>>748137918where's "the impossible quiz" on this scale?
revengeance, revenge of shinobi, Kid chameleon, captain silver(without the spread shot powerup), Sonic 2(SMS), Ninja Spirit, Super Hang On, Blake Stone, Wolf 3D + Spear of Destiny, and Bloodprobablky more I'm forgetting
Winnie the Pooh, and it's not even close
>>748137918Castlevania IIIFuck the falling block level, fuck the rising floor level, and FUCK whoever decided not to put a checkpoint before Dracula in the US version
>>748138298>how manyi wana be the guy was so ubiquitous that touhou 15 is designed to be like iwbtg with its infinite checkpoint system.
>>748137918>"difficulty">it's just the game catching you unaware
>>748137918I think it's Lineage 2 c1-interlude x1But it's a stupid question. You can select the hardest difficulty in cod and it will be harder than ninja gaiden
>>748138436Cute kitty
>>748137918I don't care for IWBTG since it's just repetitive spike gaps and le quirky gotcha moments
>>748137918Probably some Rhythm game I couldn't possibly feasibly complete
>>748138298According to the site their minimal tagging and reviews are 15107, but only 12k of those are available for download (https://www.iwannawiki.com/) because they ironically care little for archiving.
>>748138352Loved playing this with my friend when I was in the first grade. We would genuinely trial and error over and over trying to solve each level. I think the furthest I ever got was the one where you have to input the 'Lost' code near the very end. Nowdays I would never have the patience and I'd probably just watch a youtube guide before even attempting it.
>>748138432Never heard of this, sounds hilarious. Only the japs.https://archive.org/details/homerunderby_en
>>748137918I don't know if I can name the hardest game itself, the hardest challenge I've done was 7-99 in Spelunky 2.
>>748137918>"difficulty">look under the mask>it's just pattern memorization/muscle memory again
>>748138689wow people really love their artificial difficulty games
>>748138352I didn't learn who Bridget was until a decade after I played this
>>748138776>it's just pattern memorization/muscle memory againThis is literally every skill.
>>748138606>>748138498>>748138776This is only iwbtg. What you are saying doesn't really apply to the games in the pic. Boshy has some troll/trial and error moments but it's a really hard game overall.
>>748138776That's one aspect of difficulty, yes, just taken to its extreme. Difficulty is comprised of many aspects. Some difficulty games just choose to focus on one aspect over others.
>>748137918Nazo no Murasamejou
>>748137918do puzzle games count?
>>748137918Played? I dunno. I've tried stupid platformers like IWBTG before.Beaten? I feel like my hardest gaming achievement is 1-ALL'ing Dodonpachi DOJ.
>>748138776>if you learn how to play a game you become good at itWoWNo way...How could this be? Has anyone figured this out before?
>>748138352Q. Can a match box?
>>748137918Lion King SnesI remember having a hard time beating this game idk if it's because I was a kid or if it was actually that hard
>>748138916>>748138990Real difficulty is something like solving a puzzle with no help, or playing against a real human opponent that's doing things you can't predict. Going through a screen of IWBTG 500 times to learn where every trap is isn't difficult, just time consuming.
>>748138606>>748138498>>748138776Reducing these games to just gacha moment simulators is disingenuous. The amount of deaths you will have from things appearing randomly or trolling you by the end of your playtime will be less than 1% of them. Once you've died to them once from not having expected them, the only reason you'll die to them again is from executing the precision and knowhow to avoid them which. They're hard to avoid once you know they're there regardless if they caught you off guard a single time. You'll still be dying dozens of times afterward even knowing about them. This argument is always so dumb.Also, IWBTG is way easier than most people seem to believe it is. If you've played Celeste Chapter 9 or done any Dark World in Super meat Boy, then you've already completed something harder than anything in IWBTG, and I'm serious. I beat IWBTG in one 8 hour sitting my very first time playing it. Boshy is where those types of games get actually difficult. Boshy by comparison took me 4 months, and one of those months was just spent on a single boss fight, Cheetahmen. These games are not even comparable in difficulty.
>>748139191>he can't predict real human opponentsUnironic skill issue.
>>748139191Even if you know where every trap is and watch a guide I think it's still pretty hard. The surprise moments where something pops out and kills you is not where the difficulty comes from.
>>748139130I remember this one. Think I got all the way to the forest or maybe the one after it, but I never beat it.
>>748139237>>748139268this. and that spinny guy from the ryu boss was the greatest filter for me.
>>748138926A fair amount of it is the standard '''precision''' platformer slop where 90% of the difficulty is that the screen is covered in bullshit moving particles that leave the intended route obscured
>>748138776What the fuck is this line of logic? It’s like saying people who studied to get a good grade on a test or an athlete who trained to be in shape to win a competition didn’t deserve it compared to the people who didn’t.
Ikari Warriors NES. By the time you've reached the long lake in stage 1 you've already cleared a harder challenge than nearly all other NES games. That's also just stage 1.
>>748139253That's exactly what he's saying.
>>748139253You can predict what people around your skill level are going to do but you can't predict what people better than you (a play you can't predict because you don't know it) or a lot worse than you (a play you can't predict because it makes no fucking sense) are going to do very accurately.
>>748137918Radiant Silvergun or DoDonPachi DOJ White Label.
>>748139453I guess you gotta work on your pattern recognition.
>>748137918iidx
Isn't it interesting how the art style on both severities of the spectrum are overly cartoony, trans coded kiddie slop? It's almost like the people who enjoy those games are similarly mentally ill.
>>748139453I really love games with bluffing or high risk high reward plays.
>>748137918What happened to chapter 3 damn it
>>748139507>see cute thing>immediately think of tranniesI think you're the most mentally ill person here.
>>748139507There's another theory. You are the one who is mentally ill for caring about stuff like that.
>>748139507call of duty is easier than everything in that pic. now what?
Boshy was fucking relentless. I could never beat Megaman.
Excluding retro games probably Sekiro, otherwise either Castlevania NES or Punch-Out!!
>>748137918I thought hard about it and i just don't know. What i know though is that most hard games are only hard if you handicap yourself or purposefully pick a higher difficult option.Most, to not say all games, are easily beatable. Maybe you can spend a few hours on some difficult challenge here and there, but it's never anything really hard to the point of even if you keep trying for hundreds of hours you might not succeed.I guess the real really really difficult games are optional autistic challenges or competitive multiplayer ones.
>>748139565>>748139562>>748139569merely an observation. a correct one based on the backlash..
IWBTG is not a difficult genre, it's just memorization and no skill execution
Rambo III the arcade game. The last boss is perhaps impossible, I tried thousands of times and never beat it. I think it's a quarter scam.
>>748139447Now imagine you can take that test again and again, or repeat that competition over and over. That is what these games are. Any dipshit can pick up Elden Ring and throw themselves at Malenia 1000 times and eventually beat her. Is it impressive to ace the test on the 300th attempt? Or get 1st place on your 700th race? No.
>>748139549I had never heard of this so I looked it up. Why the fuck did they think it's a good idea to put a smoothing filter over the entire game for all the steam preview images?
>>748139484Radiant Silvergun is easy
>tendie 'games' even being on the scalelamo
>>748138850I'd say as far as executional difficulty goes, most of it emodies what makes execution difficult, but that's not really a good thing and prestigious by extension. Things that are hard to execute physically are naturally uncomfotable, and so on top of iwbtg fangames precision platforming being really precise they are also often uncomfortable. Although, they are kind of artificial in that theres's esoteric techniques required because subpixel shit isn't consistent so you have to do dumb shit to get the proper "align".
>>748139712>no skill executionDidn't play it award. Also, most of the spinoff games in the "genre" are far more focused on execution rather than memorization, but like someone else in the thread pointed out, the memorization stuff is about 1% of your total deaths while most of your deaths will be from getting good at the execution.
>>748139707you're as mentally ill as a tranny lol
>>748139712Thanks for letting us know you've never actually played those games.
>>748137918Ghost N Goblins Resurrection, the flaming dogs Cerberus part
>>748139764Yeah, for autists like Zerst or VTF-INO.
>>748139731Well, if you had to try the test so many times to beat it we may say that the test was hard.But ultimately, yes, this is not only related to games, but if you can keep trying over and over anything that does not involve competing against another being trying to beat you, you will eventually succeed.The only exception would be some insurmountable challenge that would require insane skills
>>748137918Put wolverine on the far left.
>>748139679I'd say 80% of Castlevania is pretty easy.A lot of classic games are like that, they start out easy but then the final part is impossible.
>>748137918any pvp game. hardest to be decent? for me it was guilty gear
>>748139826>subpixel shit isn't consistent so you have to do dumb shit to get the proper "align".iwktk3 is the only game in OP pic that requires that I think.
>>748139253If someone feels like they can perfectly predict what an opponent will do next they should go and become a trillionaire off trading
>>748139743That's how the game actually looks. It's got much heavier effects than that, lots of strobe lights. It's a real gem once you get used to the controls and tech. I wish it, vagante and barony got more discussion like ever
>>748139797You're right we should add real games like Wolverine.
>>748140240mind status: broken
>>748140187This hurts to watch.
>>748140438Because there's a black?
>>748140472Well how else are the devs supposed to justify the basketball minigame?
>>748139797Should've gone further and added gx in place of one of the others
What games are easy to middle of the line to beat but nearly impossible to 100%/Complete, without all of it just being achievment hunting bs.
>>748137918Off the top of my head, Sunder for Doom II on UV full pistol-start, Ninja Gaiden II and Razor's Edge on MN/UN, Darkest Dungeon on Bloodmoon, and Max Payne 3 New York Minute Hardcore. SoR2 1CC on Mania was a pain in the ass as well. Tetris Grandmaster 2 is the one game I can think of that completely filtered me.I've also played a few racing games here and there that, on the hardest difficulties, can be quite tough in hot-lap/time-attack modes, like Colin McRae DIRT 2 on Hardcore. Then there are also the more extreme racing sims in general.I can't think of anything else right now, though.
>>748140472because he scored 1 point over the span of a 2 minute webm and then lost.
>>748137918Define "hard". I've been an officer in vanilla wow and tardwrangling 40 mongoloids was much more difficult than anything in the op pic.
>>748137918Baba is You filtered me pretty badly.As do some rhythm games. I remember trying some cabinet called Museca that was 5 button, but there were also inputs to spin the buttons, and there was a foot pedal too. I also walked up to SDVX and went "what the fuck" with the nipple twist knobs and the screen rotating. At a point there's just too many inputs, especially for these shits that have different kinds of inputs, and my brain short circuits. Not that I'm very good at these games anyway, my peak was being able to do some of the lower difficulty extremes in Beat Saber and Project Sekai and that's about it.However the hardest game I've truly sat and grinded away at is Splatoon because I've never gotten that deep into competitive games otherwise. I actually got pretty decent. Peaked close to the top 500 back when x battle was new in 3 and I was sweating the fuck out that game. On the western server anyway, barely a sneeze to the japs.
>>748140779Smash bros campaign vs smash bros compfagging
>>748139447>It’s like saying people who studied to get a good grade on a test or an athlete who trained to be in shape to win a competition didn’t deserve it compared to the people who didn’t.Using your own logic, which do you think is actually hard? A "hard" test but all you need is to remember are the exact answers, because the questions are the same every time? Or a test where you need to study and internalize an entire book and apply that knowledge differently on each situation, because the test questions change each time?
>>748139006A. No, but a tin can.>>748140793>SunderPut pretty much anything by Ribbix in the same pile.Still, that's child's play compared to doom 'tism simulators like Okuplok, Chillax and my favorite example of sheer, unbridled autism, Tarakannik 3.To add to the pile of difficult games: N (the flash game), and its sequels, N+ and N++ are way up there in the platformer difficulty. These games are the momentum platformer genre distilled to its purest essence and then turned up to 11. I don't usually shill games, but in these, the skill ceiling is much higher than any of the platformers I played. Plus, there's a lot of levels - N++ has so much shit to do that 100%ing it may easily take up a year or several.
>>748141343>once you learn where everything is the game becomes easyDoesn't apply to precision platformers, because they're difficult regardless of whether you know where to go. The actual execution is still the main challenge. Even when you know exactly what to do, you still have to actually pull it off.And your logic is stupid anyway. Almost any metroidvania has a set of answers that you eventually learn. By that logic, those games should be the easiest, while roguelikes should be the hardest games ever. That's obviously not how it works.
She filtered millions...
>>748140779crash 4
>>748137918Baba Is You
>>748138352Objectively like a 3 or 4.It's just too short to really be comparable to even like getting over it. Also none of the questions are even that hard
>>748137918Super Mario Bros 2 JP
>>748142578>Dexterity games are the only hard games>There's no such thing as difficult tactics games because you can just memorise the speedrun route>Please ignore the fact that precision is 99% muscle memory and people clearly can get more skilled at them through practiceRetard
>>748137918Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
>>748140021Having a strong knowledge of a game's meta when playing against a single opponent is slightly easier than having a complete understanding of the stock market
>>748140779super meat boy isn't too hard to beat the main campaign, beating every level is too hard for me
A lot of this thread smells like cope from someone who can't do execution related tasks and is trying desperately to handwave it away as not a real skill or difficulty.
>>748137918Any one of the MP ladder RTS games I've played would fit the bill.
Does La Mulana count? I think I did 70% without a guide, but late game was just too much
>>748143332I bet you've never played any.Why don't you name some games you actually consider hard then?>tactics gamesNot a particularly hard genre by comparison
>>748137918Super Meat Boy isn't nearly as hard as Cuphead, at least not from what I remember.
>>748138049Were you filtered by the gameplay, or the unintuitive aircraft control UI?
>>748137918Fighting Games because players will always be harder to beat then AI designed to lose.
Why do "precision platformers" count as hard games but rhythm/music games don't?
>>748143832More recent Fire Emblem games on permadeath are extremely hard. I bet less than 1% of players beat conquest on lunatic.Necrodancer is also by far the hardest game I've ever played and it's a tactics game. The time pressure for moves is the biggest part of that, but it's not exactly a dexterity challenge for most characters.There's stuff like broforce and tboi as well which are just ridiculous time sinks on their hardest difficulties, but that's definitely because they require dexterity rather than anything like tactics.Other than that nothing stands out as being crazy hard, besides stuff like rhythm games and multiplayer stuff where fans are just stupid and there's basically no ceiling to how much you can overload the player with. They're "hard" but not in the same way as something like winning a nobel prize is hard.
>>748139130This game is so hard that the developers apologized for it decades laterAn adult can beat it without that much issue but the target audience was put into the torment nexus, with the biggest difficulty spike happening in the second level because Disney told the devs they had to make sure renters couldn't get more than X% of the way through the game in a single rental.
>>748144156Did someone say they didn't? Unless you're taking OPs image as indication. Although, one thing about them that makes them unmentioned beyond ignorance is that most of them aren't singular games and are either ports of franchise editions or play similarly enough that you may as well play their pc edition, at which point you can never "beat" it, so it feels weird to list a specific iteration, and the ones that are unique experiences are usaully not that difficult.
>>748137918starcraft brood war
>>748144347>with the biggest difficulty spike happening in the second level because Disney told the devs they had to make sure renters couldn't get more than X% of the way through the game in a single rental.kinda based
>>748137918>10 second levels>hard
Crypt of the Necrodancer
There are no hard gamesOnly bad players
>>748137918Meat Boy but I found Dark Souls harder.
>>748137918All these are piss easy compared to sny arcade era games
>>748144156Probably because "precision platformers" are actual games you can play through and finish.Rhythm games are honestly more comparable to something like dota where it can be played casually just fine for hundreds of hours but it can hypothetically get infinitely hard. It's harder to put that on a difficulty scale.
>>748137918Radiant Silvergun
>>748137918Halo 2 on Legendary
>>748137918Personally I found cuphead harder than DS3 and Super meat Boy. At least if you mean only basic completion and not 100%. If it's 100% than SMB should be a solid 10.
I beat La-mulanawithout a guideIt's not hard in mechanics, but is fucking ruthless for a brainlet like myself
>>748144701The reddit frog adds absolutely nothing to your post
>>748146118>*sips prune juice*>You kids ever heard of Pac-Man?>Course you haven't. Too busy with your Dark Souls and your fancy little checkpoints.>Back then, you got three lives. Run out? Better have another quarter.>*unwraps a werther’s original*>Yup. Those were the days.
>>748138436>Fuck the falling block levelJust memorize the pattern, it's the same every time.
>>748137918I'd probably say Persona 4 hard mode. I've definitely played stuff that's meant to be harder but I feel like Souls stuff is mostly fake difficulty. Base Persona 4 I felt they'd buffed up the stats of most enemies because of you being able to control your party now.
>>748138968That's a pretty good achievement. A lot of games people are bringing up are ones that are fake difficulty platformer shit. Stuff that you'll eventually push through with some luck. A cave 1all is pretty much always going to be based on skill, there's a lot of memorisation for a route but you need the ability to pull off that route.
>>748137918Beat?DoDonPachi DaiOuJou loop 1Played?DoDonPachi DaiOuJou loop 2
>>748137918>playing regularlyBaba is you>self-imposed challengeGetting the Eat your greens achievement in Europa Universalis 4
1) Hollow Knight's difficulty depends on how much content you complete. If you just go for the normal ending - it's 0/10. If you do the final boss rush - it's 8/102) Cuphead is waaaaay harder than DS3, debatable but I think it's harder than Sekiro3) I think Boshy is easier than Guy but that's because Boshy is a good game with working game mechanics while Guy is a shitpost4) Bennet Foddy climbing game is harder than DS3 and maybe Sekiro
>>748137918Idk what the last one is, but boshy was hard
this thread is cute
>>748148225>I think Boshy is easier than GuyYes, they are not even close. Boshy is much harder. Even the original iwbtg dev sorta complained about how his game was only meant to be a funny troll game but then all these other people took it and made something much harder.Boshy is a much more well polished and fun game overall anyway. I wish people didn't lump every similar looking game in with iwbtg because that one is honestly the least fun.>Bennet Foddy climbing game is harder than DS3 and maybe Sekiroeh, debatable. It gives the illusion of difficulty because you can lose hours of progress in an instant which might make you give up, but if you stick with it and learn the controls you will overcome it pretty easily. Game takes like 5-10 hours on your first playthrough and if you're going for the achievement to beat the game 50 times you will be beating it in 3 to 10 minutes by your 50th run because the game is actually really short. If you don't rage quit after messing up the first couple times it's very easy.
>>748138776>"term">look under the mask>it's just [basic identifying features we collectively agreed to refer to as "term" because that's how language works] again, I am very intelligent
crosscode maybethat was the most stressful at least
>>748138776>"virtuoso" guitar player >look under the mask>it's just pattern memorization/muscle memory again
>>748138215you dropped it because it's boring as shit, not because it's hard. if you were autistic enough to keep at it you could have cleared it without much trouble
>>748137918that old disney lion king game
>>748146956I had to get help for taking a knee, and I was told how to enter Hell Temple.
>>748149183post medals
>>748148279I remember being like 11 and getting epic yarn for the Wii because I liked canvas curse and mouse attack for the ds and being disappointed by how easy the game was. It took me like 1-2 days to complete the entire game and it was at no point was it any difficult and I probably didn't die once. Like I though the artstyle was a bit childish but I didn't think beforehand that the game was actually targeting toddlers/preschooler. I remember the King Dedede fight having an exploit where you could attack him when you weren't suppose too, making and easy boss ever easier.Anyways here is some of the hardest games I've played>DROD (King Dugan's Dungeon)Not that bad for the first few levels, but I started to really struggle in level 7(?) when the worms got introduced, and there are still 18 more levels in the game, though from my experience the difficulty isn't always lineal as sometimes your really stuck with a few rooms in a level then the next level goes by fast as you never really get stuck on any room there. This is also the second easiest game in the series so I would guess some of the harder games are much more brutal too.>La mulanaPlayed it together with a friend blindly and we beat it at our second shot at it. That took me about 55hours, but there was probably around 50 more hours for each of us when we first tried the game a few years ago and was able to get around 50-60% through the game then. I can't really image how people are playing this game blindly alone as I assume that would probably take around 100-200 hours.>Battle Brothers I have 250 hours on it and have never been close to even daring to fight the endgame battles. Probably not that bad if you use a guide. >Underrail Played it plenty in veteran and expert, but playing DOMANATING seems like torture, especially with the recent high enemy HP buff.>DoomGetting demos of either most normal maps in NM or slaughter maps in UV is pretty impressive. And the sky is the limit with custom Wads
>>748140779Any Pokemon game with a Battle Frontier is brain dead easy to beat, and almost impossible to clear.
>>748137918Baba is You, but I'm not sure if puzzle games really count.If not: Rabbit and Steel. Still can't finish the Dragon's area in Hard mode
>>748138137why do you wanna do that>>748138154why do you wanna do that
>>748151957no I sucki don't understand how you're supposed to farm medals since you only get them when you beat your last scoreevery forum post is like "this level is super easy just spent 649 medals on atk and it's ez"
>>748140779DK64 and Pacman World 2
>>748137918Only multiplayer games can be hardHalf of your image requires just a monkeys pattern learning brain
>>748152694Dumbest post ITT
>>748139130>>748151547The late game bonus levels where you ran around with Timon didn't give rewards on the PC version.I had fun getting softlocked on the cave level. You can't progress further until you killed the hyenas but sometimes they'd fall off the ledges during a fight and remain at the bottom of the screen and don't reset even if you die.
>>748152662alright then I willI've just been grinding them out slowly, first big break was getting my first Plat, then much more recently I got my first Diamond and then shit started to snowball from there though I still need to work on improving those Diamonds and shit.>i don't understand how you're supposed to farm medals since you only get them when you beat your last scoreThis is where bashing your head into the wall and trying to figure out you might even start to improve your routing and general choices comes into play. I'm not even going to remotely pretend that I'm an expert on this subject, I've got about 500 hours recorded on Steam but a good chunk of that is it just idling while I try to rethink life. Shit like Keys being best grabbed via levels ASAP as later levels are more valuable, trying to feel out the general flow of the map, keeping TTKs low or pivoting to DEF when you notice the TTK thresholds requiring a lot more ATK than you have or are going to have available anytime soon, HP washing for score on some maps (and more generally, any map with Crowns and non-stat Potions are going to want you to save those Potions for later), figuring out what your Medals can get you that'll improve your next run in said map or elsewhere, etc.You should be making very good notes on available Keys, Feathers, and Crowns if you aren't already, especially Keys. Where they are, how many are available and when they're available in your run (AKA not just the floor itself, but early/mid/late run due to enemy requirements or other bullshit), how many you're spending, and how many you're short by when you inevitably reach the next part of the map and find out you're short 40 fucking keys because of course you are, if that lock is even worth saving for, and rarely if you're over because that means you're either wasting levels or not grabbing enough locks. Also Shift+1/2/3/4/5/6 shows a lot more data, found this out by keyboard mashing, and use Memories from 0.
>>748137918Hardest games here are not 'hard'. Mostly just reflext/rhytmn games with memoralization. Time would be better spent on instrument.
>>748154349What is the hardest game you've ever played then?
>>748154064thanks for the adviceapparently it's possible to grind tactical beach for fast medals but i still have to test that
>>748138776>>748139191
>>748155072Probably Street Fighter when i was semi-pro.
>>748155264>apparently it's possible to grind tactical beach for fast medals but i still have to test thatIt sure is, though it's a bit involved. Reminds me that I need to rerun it at some point, but I completely forgot my old routing so figuring it out again should be fun probably need to prioritize the giant set and atk shit at spawn. Depending on what DLC you have, Orbs, Equipment, Magic, Legacy and the like all greatly complicate shit as well and I'm barely scratching the surface with the latter two myself.Lastly I do recall reading that there is a Discord for the game but I've never entered it, hell I've hardly even read the forums since I prefer trying to figure this shit out on my own, but the option is there if you need it. Fair warning that from what I've gathered the lead dev is a turbosperg and might just ban you for some schizo reason.
>>748138303this, Gitaroo Man is a pretty chill game in stamdard difficulty, but the moment you start playing the hardest difficulty, shit becomes a survival battle, I couldn't get past the penultimate level (the epic metal guy with the organ)
>>748155759Oh, and just to clarify because I forgot to in either of my previous posts, what you're getting here are Sunstones, not Medals. Medals are the Bronze/Silver/Gold/etc shit you can use in the Nexus to unlock blocks there and grab other shit with. Sunstones are what you use when using the Sunwishers, primarily to boost your raw stats with.
>>748137918Ikaruga>>748137993pshhh bait
I love puzzle games, have completed many without trouble and would probably describe myself as intelligent.I can't for the life of me make progress in baba is you beyond the halfway point, it's like my brain just does not compute whatsoever.And it annoys me to this day that i was filtered.
>>748155510Street fighter isn't that hard.
>>748137918Sex with your mom simulator.
>>748158408That goes right next to Kirby
>>748137918Stevens sausage roll humbled the fuck outta me
>>748143332>get more skilled at them through practiceyou mean like literally every skill
Damn /v/ is bad at games
>>748137918Master Ninja SigmaShit is really hard, i was stuck in some rooms for hours.
>>748158980It's harder to say that about more abstract reasoning
Stellar Blade. I'm sure it would be possible to argue that games like Aurora 4x, Workers and Resources, War in the Pacific, Rule The Waves or some retro shit from the SNES era is harder, but I don't find any of those hard because I don't suck at them. Very much unlike games like Stellar Blade.If I played a rhythm game I'd probably list that at the absolute top of my list of hardest games ever, but I've only played rhythm games as minigames inside other games such as for example in ZZZ and I don't think that counts.
>>748137918i don't consider dying a lot to make a game hard, it's just dying a loti do challenge runs of games where i run hardest difficulty with 0 upgrades and limit myself from using any exploitative strats but i wouldn't consider that making the game hard eitheri also don't really consider it hard if the "difficulty" is just some aspect of catching the player with a trick they just need to learn to pass through, rather it has to be sustained execution and knowledge that applies generally, and there's just an overall challenge/endurance metric to itprobably metal gear rising: revengeance jetstream sam campaign revengeance difficulty vr04 is the hardest honest challenge in a game i've played, god hand on hard difficulty is pretty ballbusting too but there's nothing in that game as long as sam vr04
Probably Metal Gear Rising or Ninja Gaiden 4 on the hardest difficulties but what really sticks out in my mind is DMC4 for some reason. Dante is so hard to play as there. Probably the other earlier games too on DMD if I ever bother to go through those in the future.
>>748137918>What is the hardest game you've ever played?Some cutesy shit, which make it ten time more humiliating.
>>748137918trauma center
>>748159506You can't meaningfully increase your general intelligence, but you can get better at specific cognitive tasks through training.
>>748137918I played Jump King and I Wanna Be The Guy for like 20 minutes. I've played a bunch of NES games for an hour or two, as well. I just don't see why you'd push through such a difficult game for free. It's not fun. Do they even qualify as games at that point?
>>748161530But if we're talking about difficulty in the context of puzzle games, you're evaluating them on initial exposure.Outside of market saturation of a particular type of puzzle game, they're not something that you can "get better at"
>>748140438>>748140472nah because of how unrealistic and retarded it is.
Metal slug 1-3, arcade games are almost cheating because they were literall designed to take coins from the pockets of children with sheer levels of unfairness and bullshittery
>>748161530if you eat poorly, consistently, don't exercise regularly, overuse substances that inhibit your cognitive function like caffeine at above 400mg/day, you can make a substantial improvement in your general intelligence by changing those habitssubjecting yourself to critical thinking challenges in general will also force you to use your brain, strengthening it no differently from a muscle with weight trainingin other words, eat decent meals regularly, do cardio, play the island of dr. brain every day, don't overdose on caffeine, you will become substantially more intelligent in only a few months
SC2 rankedSingleplayer: Tetris TATGM 3.
>>748137918How much on the scale is the DonPachi series then? 100?
>>748139764No it isn't.
>>748148225Hollow Knight DLC stuff is harder than either DS3 or Cuphead.
>>748161753MS1 is easy
BallisticNG on hardcore + elite for the more technical tracks, that shit is unironically brutal.
>>748161753Metal Slug is a terrible example for what you're trying to get at. All good arcade games had a difficulty ramp to onboard new players but then get them off the machine within 5 mins. However the difference between "hard" and "bullshit" is when it's not really about skill but rote memorisation and quite frankly abusing mechanics, which Metal Slug requires neither. Sure, autists memorise a "route" but you don't have to. You can survive until the timer runs out on every boss just by dodging well.Bullshit is like Smash TV where no matter how good your reactions, no matter how autistically you plan your routing, no matter how well you manage your resources you will just die when the boss bum rushes you at random at a speed faster than you can move.
>>748162585Yeah like I said
The learning curve to most grand strats is pretty hard, but once you know it the games become easy.
>>748138168iwbtg is made by a guy who trooned out so
around 4 on that scale is where i like to be.
>>748148225>Cuphead is waaaaay harder than DS3LOLLMAO EVEN
>>748137918>DS3>6/10It's way easier than that.Then again I'm an invader so anything short of 3 overleveled players feel like vacation.
>>748161608Depends on the type of puzzle I would say. You can develop certain strategies on how to approach puzzels to make them more manageable.
>>748137918Sekiro isn't that hard imo
>>748162907Nta but the only boss in DS3 that killed me a double digit number of times was Friede. In Cuphead plenty of bosses did that.
>>748163005Cuphead is literally a baby game, don't reply to me again
>>748163046If that's the case then DS3 is a fetus game.
>>748163005How is it possible to need double digit tries on either of those games? What is wrong with this board nowadays?
>>748162907DS3 doesn't even have hard bosses. Any boss in Cuphead is harder than any boss in DS3
>>748163208There are no hard bosses in either game, OP. You seem to be confused.
>>748137918Borrowed your list. Didn't play anything above Super Meat Boy but agree with the rest, more or less. Added 3 of my own picks.
Halo 2 or Reach LASO
>>748137918None lf these games should be above a 5.
>>748163120I know dude. I remember back in 2010 every single anon could beat NG2 Master Ninja blindfolded, now people are complaining about piss easy baby shit like Consort Radahn.
>>748137918Where does Ghosts N Goblins rank? What about Kaizo Mario?
>>748163268Dead to Rights is fucking garbage.
Hmmm I would probably say Street Fighter 4 in ranked
DKCTF is much harder than dread what are you talking aboutbaited me award
You know a shitter made this since there's not a single retro game. Contra, Ghosts n Goblins, DoDonPachi, that's real difficulty.
>>748138436>he didn't go the waifu routeyou deserve your punishment
I beat boshy on hard-on mode, guess i'm a demigod gamer
>>748167261You didn't beat the game
>>748161753Is that an original thought you arrived at after playing a lot of arcade games or are you just parroting the opinion of other shitters because it validates your incompetence?
>>748137918The VoidCapitain Blood
>>748137918Tetris
>>748137918>no SMT3 Nocturne
>>748137918Touhou 6OsuManiaDungeon Crawler (Stone Soup)Cat MarioDwarf FortressSuper HexagonShin Megami Tensei III - NocturneLion King (SNES)Castlevania: Symphony of the NightUmihara KawaseLobotomy CorporationThe Elder Scrolls III - MorrowindThe Binding of Isaac: RebirthBlood of the DawnwalkerGothic 2Impossible GameTerraria (Zenith seed/Legend Mode)Heroes of Might & Magic IIICrazy TaxiAstra Libra
>>748169773>Lion King (SNES)White did they make the game more difficult in the US compared to other regions? They basically fucked up the jump mechanics and made that platform game literally impossible to beat.
>>748167176>"Hardcore retro gamer">Just namedrops the most surface level "hard" games from pop cultureYou're on the same level as people who say Dark Souls is the hardest game ever.
>>748145731Save for Aria and Coda, necrodancer is challenging but very doable
>>748137918Probably Boshi, yeah. Never beat it though.
>>748140779Void Stranger.
