>>748142298
Bumbling idiot zombies: G
Fastest Spreading: C
Most combat effective: T
Most expensive: T
Best for micro managers: Plagas

Didn't play CV or Revelations, I don't touch shit.

>Your infectious mutant monsters win the war for you
>The territory you've claimed is now overrun with infectious mutant monsters
Not exactly a great selling point.

>too expensive for a unit
>too maintenance dependant
>can't transport easily
>can easily die to combined conventional arms
>lack of control
>can't do more complex mission objectives
>nightmare for international sentiment
BOWs are trash tier. Anything they do, a group of trained humans can do better with less resources

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>$120,000,000 for something that can be killed by one smelly sand nigger in sandals holding an RPG
The more I play Resident Evil the more I think everyone in this universe is just retarded

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The shitty monsters you fight are basically mostly just experiments. Still dies to a drone, as everything does nowadays.

>>748142613
they are grifting for government grants like every other organization

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>>748142546
This is why Necromorphs are superior
>drop just one into the area you want to take over
>they kill everything
>turn off the Marker signal and every Necromorph gets liquefied into inanimate sludge

>>748142298
>How useful would BOWs even be in IRL warfare?
Nobody could have predicted IRL warfare would turn into ww1 trenchlines and artillery warfare except with a billion chinese drones with bombs strapped to them flying to every infantry in those trenches as they desperately try to outlast the other set just to occupy a new position.
So under that criteria they are pretty worthless.

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>>748142298
>>748142790
MOGGED TO DEATH by Big Frank

>>748143098
They weren't much better before we figured it out. Just look at the racoon city, sure BOWs have taken the city over but what are you supposed to do with it now? You have to quarantine the place and blow it up

>We need to make a serum that turns people into super-soldiers, you know, like Captain America and shit!
Okay... so why the fuck is it a VIRUS?? Why would you want a VIRAL super-steroid? Why not just inject it like a normal fucking steroid, why would you want superpowers to spread through bites??

>>748142968
>turn off the Marker signal and every Necromorph gets liquefied into inanimate sludge
Easier said than done, surely? I guess you have to make sure there aren't any insane cultists around who will stop you from turning it off.

>>748142298
I think they'd be useful for scorched earth tactics against dense civilian populations, taking out a well-equipped military isn't feasible but BOW's can and have wiped out entire cities. Of course a Tyrant or even Nemesis won't last forever, but it can probably nab some high profile targets before getting taken out, especially in the midst of a full blown zombie outbreak.
It's definitely expensive, but you could covertly insert it in a capital city and take out a few heads of state if that was your goal. Even a few T-virus incidents staged at major trade centers could decimate a nation's economy.
It also provides a certain level of deniability, viruses can't be interrogated so it's harder to pin down the perpetrator.

>>748142298
>How useful would BOWs even be in IRL warfare?

This one: >>748142790
Made obsolete by an automated drone that only costs about 75 USD to purchase, constructed from electronics one could readily find at a radioshack. Everything is about satellite surveillance, remotely automated explosives, and guys with rifles.

Making bioweapons has always been fucking stupid: the real money in biopharmaceuticals is in things like cosmetics, prescription drugs, agriculture, food processing, boring stuff that make people's lives easier, prettier, or otherwise cornering the market on something someone needs to live that they'll pay anything for.

>1 guy gets a papercut
>Entire army/nation is dead
Seems pretty effective IMO

>>748142298
The chemical warfare that's considered a war crime by irl standards is more effective than the million dollar niggas in coats umbrella sells.

>>748142298
as long as "he" doesn't get distracted and do his fucking job: perfect
if that thing get distracted and chase a middle age cop, it's ogre.

>>748142298
they're a weapon of terror
you unleash horrors on the enemy population so they pressure their government to capitulate

>>748143715
>Nobody wants to make a horror game about surviving a city-scale mustard gas attack or surviving as light infantry in the ukraine war on either side.

>>748142298
Umbrella Bioweapons are jewish scams to make money more than they are made to accomplish their missions, that's why they have such a high failure rate despite costing so much.

>>748143715
Honestly, I'm surprised chemical and biological warfare isn't really that much of a thing in IRL war outside of a few exceptions like WW1 considering how devastating things like plagues have been across human history.

>>748143849
>surviving as light infantry in the ukraine war on either side.
this could make for a fun game

>>748144016
It was banned by the Geneva suggestion. Some say that Covid was a bio weapon...

>>748142550
With the exception of the tyrants and nemesis you would have more ot a point.

>>748144016
It's hard to control, imprecise, and the internal community doesn't like it. As has been said repeatedly in this thread, warfare went in the opposite direction with drones.

>>748142298
The viruses themselves are ridiculously deadly, far too much so to be practical for most purposes. Most of the BOW's are both difficult or impossible to control and not particularly strong, and thus pretty useless for any purpose beyond terrorizing civilians. The tyrant isn't completely terrible since it can follow orders, use weapons, and is highly resistant to most small arms, but they're expensive and Umbrella can't produce all that many of them. They might still have some niche uses, though.

>>748144167
but not really though

>>748142503
>Bumbling idiot zombies: G
wut?

>>748143849
>>748144054
It's all fun and games until a drone plops onto your head. Drones have ruined war and made it gay

>>748143225
>Okay... so why the fuck is it a VIRUS?? Why would you want a VIRAL super-steroid? Why not just inject it like a normal fucking steroid, why would you want superpowers to spread through bites??
Because RE forgot the T Virus does not spread via bites. It's an airborne virus that dies out pretty quickly.
Notice how your buddies in RE1 don't turn into zombies when they die? Pecked to death by infected crows, doesn't turn into a zombie? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>748144232
They stood out to me as the most combat effective, but given what one guy said about rocket launchers, I’m retracting that statement. However, given that the Nemesis model could redirect missiles I would say that makes it uniquely effective, but I would argue that for the same amount you could have 150 suicide drones or something to that number AT least which would make having that nemesis obsolete unless its like a bodyguard or an assassin or something taking out high profile targets intimately or protecting them.

>>748143471

Pretty much this. They have a virus that can heal any injury including death and their best idea is to use it to make super soldiers.
Like shit man, if you had a cure for any injuring including death, you could sell that to every millionaire/billionaire alive for massive amounts of money.

The only reason they're using this shit to make monsters is because it's a video game and it needs enemies.

>>748144340
>I would argue that for the same amount you could have 150 suicide drones or something to that number AT least which would make having that nemesis obsolete
You could probably manufacture a million drones for the price of a nemesis

>>748144392
Yes. Rendering the nemesis obsolete save for the specific combat roles the drones cannot fulfill (bodyguard/intimate assassination and tracking). It cant take out tanks without the rocket launcher and in most circumstances other weapons would be better in a military environment. I think the controllable gas chemical warfare shit may be more viable honestly, you already have many powerful things such as WP which do fucktons of damage, the real deal is that umbrella would have to pivot directly into chemical warfare and payload deployment not creating genetic freaks which are highly expensive and could not be mass produced

>>748144340
Tyrants are mobile enough that rockets wouldn't be an issue

>>748144867
do you know how fast an rpg travels? No way a half-ton monster can dodge that

>>748144940
I mean the REmake tyrant can, in fact, deflect RPGs, that's something that happens in-game.

>>748144993
For the price you're paying, that's the least you should expect

>>748142298
I figure the idea is to dump tyrants with airdrops directly into bases, rather than have them fill the role of infantry or go against tanks and shit. Theyre basically bulletproof, very physically fast and can one shot basically any human so dropping them right in a base would take them by suprise and leave them scrambling as the tyrant tears them apart

>>748142298
Couple bucks drones would turn your multimillion dollar tyrant into a meaty mess the moment they step anywhere close to a frontline
Your horde of zombies? Yep, all mowed down by bomber drones
Your hunters, lickers and dogs? All droned down
Drone warfare has made war so stupidly boring, there's nothing fun left anymore

>>748145130
no, you're just retarded and suffer from recency bias

I'm not a war expert or anything, but do modern drones make tanks obsolete now? Tanks don't really have any effective counter against them and drones seem to be much more efficient at destroying targets than tanks

>>748145296
they still have their uses for sure but drones are a big problem for them as they currently are

>>748145296
I think to a large extent tanks are currently performing so poorly against drones because no tanks have yet to be designed with drones in mind. They're very poorly adapted to deal with them resulting in soldiers jury rigging wacky stuff like cope cages and turtle tanks.

>>748143357
>I think they'd be useful for scorched earth tactics against dense civilian populations
If you have the air superiority to carpet bomb a city with BOWs, then you can also hit power plants, transformer stations and water treatment plants to the exact same effect.

>>748144016
It's one of the few things every major world power agrees on so trying it gets you immediately assraped with nobody coming to your defense.
Most famous recent instance was Assad using chemical weapons as punishment for civil unrest and I don't think I need to tell you how that worked out for the Syrian government

>>748142968
Necromorphs have such a cool fucking design. They're like the only distinct zombie-adjacent monster idea that looks instantly recognisable as its own thing since zombies. You see a necromorph and you're like "that's a fucking necromorph from dead space", not "ah this is a zombie from any media". They didn't pay the artist enough.

>>748143327
The entire operation should be carried out by robots. Humans are too susceptible to the Marker's influence.

>>748142298
The Tyrant is so damn cool. What I like about the RE franchise is it strikes such a perfect balance between scary, sexy, and cool factor. There really is no other horror series like it in gaming. Dead Space is try-hard and woke slop and SH is artsy pretentious slop that hasn’t really had a good game since the early 2000’s. The other horror franchises largely do not matter.

>>748145842
Would even robots be safe? Is there any certainty that they couldn't be corrupted by the Marker?

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>>748142298
Better question, how useful would BOWs be as wives?

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>>748146012
Alexia would be top tier, for one thing.

>>748144274
>Drones have ruined war and made it gay
Yep, and nukes ruined it the other end.
War is just lame and gay now.

>>748145716
This to me is the problem with necromorphs. They are supposed to be these alien zombies yet they often look too aesthetically perfect or symmetrical. More like they were designed to look forced cool rather than the designs feeling a lot more naturally cool. The RE BOW’s all had a purpose or reason to exist and even look how they look. Necromorphs though it was clearly because the designer simply wanted them to look cool but never really giving good story or lore reasons for why they look that way. Alien zombies were done better in Halo with the flood and also the thing from the movies.

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>>748144274
>Drones have ruined war and made it gay
War has been gay since the end of the Age of Sail and swords stopped being relevant. Drones just made it extra gay.

>>748143225
It's a retrovirus, it injects RNA into host cells to change their DNA.

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Umbrella would make more money if they made sex creatures to fuck instead.

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>>748142298
7 and 8 have umbrella guys trying to contain and destroy the mold infection with little success. But in the end whatever they are fighting gets gunned down by a single (1) person anyway. Makes you wonder.

>>748146012
source

>>748146464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfsAvRcgEYY

>>748145296
not being invincible =/= being obsolete
the problems you are perceiving are more the result of a combination of factors like doctrine lagging behind tech, lack of combined arms in 2nd & 3rd world conflicts (which leaves armor vulnerable to all sorts of things, not just drones) and the fact that a successful kill with at or artillery or etc doesn't produce a flashy killcam video that can be posted online for laymen. that isn't to say that tank design & usage doesn't need to adapt, these kinds of affordable pgm platforms are only going to become more common, but it doesn't mean they're obsolete, unless you think bullets made infantry obsolete or so on.

>>748145296
just because bullets and drones kill infantry doesn't mean infantry is obsolete
you still need armor and you still need mobile firepower for maneuver warfare
If Russia wasn't so terrible at war they would have actually met all of their objectives in the initial invasion and would have used their tanks for their actual intended purpose
it's always best not to get last war syndrome and overlearn things from what is ostensibly a very unique war

>>748146290
>The RE BOW’s all had a purpose or reason to exist and even look how they look. Necromorphs though it was clearly because the designer simply wanted them to look cool
That's a silly argument. Most necromorph designs tell me that some alien power repurposed the meat as practically as possible to kill things.
>Human frame, but with blades
>Human frame, but with pointy tail
>Bits of flesh out to kill you
>Fat fuck human frame with excess meat repurposed into bits of flesh that want to kill you
>Human frame with everything turned into the explodey bit
>Small crawling human with tentacles
>Human frame with acid production turned way up
>Disembodied pieces turned into tentacly bits
>Big pile of corpses turned into a big guy
Now compare it to Umbrella's supposed "designs":
>Generic walking dead
>Frog people (?)
>Crawly things with their brains on the outside
>Evil plant (?)
>Shark (???)
>More evil plants
>8 foot tall dude in a trenchcoat
Only Nemesis looks like something actually designed to do its job.

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>>748146012
>>748142298
>>748146110
Hilariously, umbrella would have taken over the world way easier if their goal really was just creating non aggressive, non infectious bio wives. They would make untold trillions.

>>748142298
useless a tyrant gonna get gangraped by drone bombing his ass only usefullnes of BOWs its the kungflu tier

>>748145716
It just goes to show you can just mash two existing concepts together and get something radical, instead of just recycling old ideas. In this case Xenomorphs + The Thing.

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>>748146290
>Necromorphs though it was clearly because the designer simply wanted them to look cool
what's wrong with that?

>>748143123
>Enclave Turrets >>>big frank

>>748142968
you mean marker turning insane the enemies

>>748146952
Genuinely, I'd like to have a faceless regenerator maid.

>>748145842
marker can also interference the radio signals

Reviving the dead seems like a pretty good advantage. Double your army.

>>748142613
>$120,000,000 for something that can be killed by one smelly sand nigger in sandals holding an RPG
Sadly, this applies to most things. I suppose thats where you want the zombie dogs.

Judging by the games, Umbrella would have far more success just cloning Leon and Chris and making an army of controlled and conditioned supersoldiers.

We're living in a world where you can strap a bomb onto a cheap drone and completely invalidate any kind of cover or infantry. Zombies would be too expensive and are only really useful against civilian populations

Residrnt evil 4 and 5 show you that the plaga parasites would be absolutely peak, opposed to a full in invasion you drop a couple operatives to start infecting and controlling people, slowly and subtly until you have enough of a force to do some real damage

And moldy grandma from 7 would also be able to do some serious damage if she could actually be controlled

>>748142613
money laundering with shady b.o.w. factory

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>>748147464
for the price of one Cereberus you can buy like 3 M1 Abrams tanks.

>>748142810
Kind of, yeah. Through the series most head personel in Umbrella have been depicted as interested in using BOW research to make themselves or humanity in general superhuman, however distorted their opinion on what's human is. Nemesis is ultimately the apex of BOWs as soldiers where Wesker is the height of BOWs applied to making superior humans.

>>748148019
>One doberman infected with the T-Virus is $30,000,000
Lmao, Umbrella and the other BOW tech companies are taking their investors and clients for an absolute ride.

>>748148019
The pricing makes almost no sense for them

How tf is a dog worth 30 million, but the genetically engineered lickers are only 14 million?

If you couldnt gun them down you wouldnt have a game.

>>748148121
The US Army at one point was paying $1500 for a roll of toilet paper.

>>748148156
I assume it was the cost of supplying it from stock to some remote hard-to-reach location, otherwise fucking what.

>>748143225
Because steroids and drugs are just tweaking your natural biological mechanisms. There is a hard limit on how far you can go and before that is most likely when your organs give out. Viruses, in this case, would be more like MRNA treatments

>>748148019
I am pretty sure that is a package deal for a certain amount. Military arms are not sold by the piece they are all package deals. The real question is why Umbrella's site looks like 4chan (2chan)

>>748143327
And the necromorphs, and the marker itself will be trying to stop you.

>>748148217
If I remember correctly that was for a base on US soil.
Governments will pay any retarded amount of money you ask for because it's not their money and they just print more, they don't care.

>>748148308
Fucking hell, I guess oversight is optional.

>>748148156
Source? A lot of those prices people quote for jets & so on are for whole sustainment packages so I take that always with a grain of salt.

>>748142298
>>748142613
A drone operator sitting in his basement with his computer can kill these things for around $5000 worth of drones.

I think people forget/retcon is that Tyrants/Nemesis were ment to be super soliders with the T-Virus and other genetic manipulation shenanigans. The T-Virus was just a means of doing so, zombies and other irregular mutants were an unintended side effect that later get weaponized.

On a note virus are infact used for genetic modification IRL.

>>748148540
What if we make a BOW to operate the drones? Check mate.

>>748148481
>>748148396
I can't find the exact article, it was years ago. However, here's the exact same shit. $75000 for a regular ladder.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-07-30-vw-18804-story.html
It's not remotely uncommon.

>>748148540
>>748148603
>What if we just had BOW which are drones
Cool, now we're full Zerg.

>>748148647
1986 Fucking hell at least link some Halliburton shenanigans

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>>748148019
They probably just replaced yuans with dollars and didn't think much of it because its a nice and round number. 120,000,000 ¥ is 763.172 $.

>>748148857
Fuck, I meant yens not yuans.

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>>748146290
>the problem with this enemy is that they look too cool

>>748142613
But he comes with a free coat.

>>748146925
You just simply want to disagree. My point on the design philosophy with these two series stands. They look like animals in RE because that is what they are. The only reason they look the way they do in dead space was for cool points and it’s very obvious. The in universe explanation for the RE monster designs is way better basically.

>>748143357
At that point, just drop a nuke: the entire world will come down hard on you the second they find out you're responsible for turning 20 million civilians into flesh-eating nightmares, you may as well just go the less sadistic route.
Maybe it's easier to get BOW tech on the black market than it is to convince Kim Jong Un to sell you a nuke, I don't know.

>>748147260
Nothing is inherently wrong with that idea. I just prefer RE over DS and gave my reasons why. I never really found the overall stories and lore to DS to be nearly as interesting. Also it seems universally accepted that the series went to shit with the 3rd game which killed it off until the remake of the first game. Then the series died again. It’s just not as interesting.

>>748151256
The only reason Necromorphs in DS are so symmetrical is because the basis of life they're using is also symmetrical. To the Marker, biomass is a vague concept that can be modified and changed around, but there's no point in heavily modifying something if a quick basic mutation will work. The higher the amount of available biomass, though, the more exotic of a change you get. I'd say there's also a mistake in thinking the RE enemies aren't absolutely designed entirely for cool points lol

>>748151256
RE2 has walking carnivorous plants. You really can't be more detached from biology than that. Dead Space has a good excuse of their zombies having nothing to do with animals and being just repurposed meat.

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>>748142613
>You won't get it mom
>It comes with a balloncoat and a small fedora

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>>748142613
>+10 million bucks just for this small upgrade

>>748151580
those pesky government contracts

>>748142546
Wait half a year and everything will die of estarvation

>>748151467
>>748151496
I do not find Dead Space to be scary. Even the first game is way too action packed. I get most would say that Resident Evil also is not scary but to me the standard zombie is far spookier. Plus everything else is just better. Dead Space should have stopped at 2.

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>>748142613
> Scientists meet-up
>How to we make our mutant weapon to blend in the general population?
>Just give it a balloncoat
>Yes!yes!
>And give it a small fedora too
> Fantastic idea

>>748142550
Tyrants can kill dozens while Nemesis probably can kill more than a hundred before perishing. Jill and Chris can solo them but they also soloed two Umbrella facilities full of their private army. Chris was some super delta force soldier before assaulting a superior officer and ending up on STARS

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>>748145130
>Good luck with your RC toys when a city large as Toky or Detroit get swarmed by lickers and such

>>748151692
Zombie fiction always kinds of glosses over that. Like the idea that decomposing flesh will somehow last longer than living tissue because reasons. RE kind of gets away with it because we never really see zombies last longer than a matter of months or so, but stuff like TWD and TLoU are so absurd it's hilarious, with barely functional zombies somehow surviving exposure for years if not decades. I think the TLoU ones are the most ludicrous, like how the fungus makes them magically more powerful over time despite the fact that the human host should've stopped functioning within weeks if not days of the initial infection.

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>>748145569
To be honest those Tanks are kino as fuck.

>>748151742
You can just hear it.
>Guys, I got a new requirement from lab leader, he said our supersoldier needs to blend into the general population
>Is he retarded, we're two months away from ending the project, it's impossible to make changes in the design
>He gave me access to the Confluence page they used to talk with the client, it's listed as a requirement on the third meeting and client assumed we're going to do it
>Just give it a raincoat or something, they already sunk a hundred million dollars into it and can't back out, they just need to tick their MBO and that's it

>>748151910
TLoU they're not 'zombies' they're overtaken by mushrooms.

>>748143224
Yeah? Lets say you went to war with Israel. Why not drop a bow and then nuke it? There is nothing there to make use of besides the ground itself to build an army base of something which you can do on a nuked city

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>>748146464
Agreed

>>748151692
Did you not play 9

>>748151972
Yeah, and the human host should fall apart within weeks of infection because nothing is sustaining it. IIRC they're not even "undead" just infected, so the idea that they're being sustained on occasional human flesh when they don't even attack each other is preposterous.

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>>748142298
In the current year a rampaging Tyrant would get submerged by cheap drones with explosives stuck on them.

>current warfare
>BOWS WOULD NOT BE USEFUL BECAUSE OF DRONES
>watch footage
>trench warfare with enemies lobbing grenades
>no drones
>all drone footage is just war crimes vs 1 unarmed guy in a ditch
I don't get the drone hype

>>748143852
This guy actually listened to the plot. The main goal of Umbrella was immortality but the bioweapons were a consequence of the research so they just took the oppotunity to make money of it while using it as smokescreen for the glowees

>>748152052
>the idea that they're being sustained on occasional human flesh when they don't even attack each other is preposterous.
>t. all-meat diet hater

>>748147606
bsaa bow were literally chris clones cosplaying as military mrX

>>748143225
Because there is a limit to how much steroids can buff you. Virus are used to alter DNA, which can lift said cap and make your body produce the steroids itself

>>748152089
>Deploy Tyrant
>is wearing clothes and covertly entering a city
>no clear target, no giant tank
>he walks into the power substation and manhandles it with his barehands
>send drone operators
>no tank
>no missile
>just footprints
>relocate and repeat
You don't replace foot infantry with Tyrants.

>>748144614
No matter how many drones you have, you still need infantry to cover ground and conquer. Thats where the Nemesis would come in hand. Send the fsrmers ahead to die to drone strikes and once you reach a stronghold, unleash the Nemmy

>>748142298
If it was the BOWs in the animated movies then maybe. Those things are crazy

>>748152424
>No matter how many drones you have, you still need infantry to cover ground and conquer
No anon, you don't understand, China has developed infinite long range, remoteless drones with infinite battery and ignore all their build up of infantry, infantry vehicles, manned vehicles etc
All Non-Russian/Chinese countries should stop having armed forces and just have drones :^)

>>748152260
That's not really the issue. That hoard that attacks Ellie and David at the beginning of the Winter chapter kind of says it all, that not only have the infected somehow survived for years, they've managed to do it in remote areas with extreme weather with no shelter and given there's no other humans for miles around, nothing to eat either. The concept made it seem like they wanted something more grounded in reality than traditional zombies but the way it's presented is actually even more infeasible.

>>748148019
Maybe it was a trannylation? Like, what if it was 30mil Japanese whatever they use and not dollar?

>>748148019
You don't know what the USD is worth in RE Universe, it could have massive inflation due to the multiple outbreaks around the world, it's like Giga Covid inflation

>>748152673
Sounds about right actually

For 1997 currency values that would be about 250k USD which would make the tyrant about 1.2 million dollars

>>748152859
Those entries are from before the raccoon city incident, before knowledge of all the BOW stuff was public knowledge

But also its still very silly, wars were still super documented at the time and all the secret stuff made it out anyway like gulf war syndrome

>>748152869
That sounds good enough. Special Forces costs 1 million just to get ready for combat while being high maintenance. A Tyrant you just need to let it eat some of the civvies it kills

The mold shit seemed like the best bioweapon until it got loose, completely stealthy, selectively infectious and controllable by handler.

>>748152869
>For 1997 currency values
The pic is from RE9 which is set in 2026. According to google, the cost of one Cerberus would actually be around $190,822 if you converted it from yen to usd

>>748153279
He is implying the costs are from the per-destruction umbrella site

>>748142968
>have to store and transport the Marker
Bad fucking idea

>>748153219
>controllable by handler
I mean it's more controllable than any of the other BOWs because it's sentient but it's still extremely volatile, otherwise RE7 wouldn't have happened at all.

>>748146290
>They are supposed to be these alien zombies yet they often look too aesthetically perfect or symmetrical
Why wouldn't they be overall symmetrical? They're basically following design templates when you think about it

>>748153347
my apologies then

>>748153541
Mr. X seems pretty controllable

>>748153693
Is he, though? The fact that had to store him in a giant sixpack makes it seem like he's not guaranteed to be super cooperative.

>>748152335
>is wearing clothes and covertly entering a city
It is also 7 foot tall at a minimum, and built like a brick shithouse: there is no way for something like that to move covertly.

>>748146925
Don't forget the zombie moths.

>>748153779
But he's also designed to act like a bodyguard. Bodyguards are pretty useless if you can't control them

>>748142298
Tyrants and whatever the fuck Birkin turned into wouldn't be that useful really. I guess it would give a severe case of PTSD to the ground troops and might hurt their overall morale. Obviously as people said in this thread drones have made them a bit useless for how expensive they are.

The T Virus however would be pretty useful if you let it free in the middle of say Beijing. Would be worse than nukes and they wouldn't see it coming. It would be so chaotic they might not even have time to point the blame at some other state and plan a counter attack. That was the real weapon Umbrella had, anything else was just wasteful R&D.

>>748146290
Except you're objectively wrong on all fronts. Necromorphs at least from Dead Space 1 were believable body horror. Take the lurker babies for example, the tentacles are just repurposed intestines, or how about the slasher with it's tiny arms in its chest cavity? Repurposed biomass, what about their scythe arms? Well that's from utilizing the hosts ulna and radius bones in their arms. The leaper, aka the scorpion looking one with a long tail has had both legs contorted and joined together alongside the intestines to make a tail.

Make a BOW worm that digs real good. Now it's droneproof.

>>748153947
You mean the Gravedigger?

>>748153947
>THEY'RE SINKING RACOON CITY WITH A GIANT WORM!!

>>748153947
Isn't that in RE3.

>>748152464
The one with Leon in Russia in particular where they can have a controller for all those Lickers or whatever the fuck they were seemed good.

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>>748153947
>hires this guy
now what fucko

>>748153938
Wouldn't a T-Virus outbreak in China result in it spreading across the whole of continental Eurasia? Not a bad plan if you want to cause a global collapse but otherwise it seems a bit high risk.

>>748153947
You could also make use of the amphibious ones, I suppose, like the Hunter Gamma and those stupid frogs from RE0.

>>748154024
And the one in CVX.

>>748153947
>>748154021
>You're gonna be sorry if you don't give it a name.

>>748153947
semi-related, but a constantly evolving Shin Godzilla/SCP-682 BOW would be kino.

>>748152335
If the guard is lax enough that a gigantic man can just slowly stomp his way in, why don't you just have some normal people sneak in? what's the usecase here?

>>748154268
Both Birkin and the Nemesis were kind of like that but they had limits.

>>748142613
they are selling discarded junk for millions, it's just byproduct cleanup from failed experiments that were supposed to make something better

>>748153779
Its a drop pod, its to protect him while being dropped from altitude by a helicopter while also concealing the fact that a literal monster is being transported

>>748154120
Yeah but the Mossad might not have thought that far ahead.

>>748153347
The costs are current, see >>748142613

>>748152029
read >>748142503
I don't touch shit

>>748154120
In 1 at least T wasn't transmissible like that, it was airborne then burned itself out and went inert after a bit. Which is really the only way any of it makes sense, but being bitten and turning was just too good of an image for later games to pass up

>>748142298
Considering that a few rats ended up spreading the virus so far that an entire city had to be nuked, I think so. Don't know why you'd get a tyrant though.

>infected swolezombie with the T virus
>call him Mr.X instead of Mr.T
kek

>>748151434
>Maybe it's easier to get BOW tech on the black market than it is to convince Kim Jong Un to sell you a nuke
Definitely, nukes have to be stolen or "lost" while every single BOW corporation in RE manufactures them specifically with the intent to sell them on black market to terrorists. Old and circulated ones like good ol' T are probably easier to find than crack

>>748151434
>>748155124
But why not just make a virus that kills people and ends at that? I understand that Spencer's purpose was also to find a way to become an immortal superbeing, but what the fuck is the average scientist in Umbrella thinking?

>>748155124
Smuggling in a syringe or a vial is easier than 60 kg of fissile material too.

>>748143225
Well first off the genre is biopunk so just at that you have to suspend your disbelief for this particular contrivance if you want a zombie horror setting and aesthetic to work. Second off, it's been a while since i delved into RE lore, but every zombie virus in the series is a modified offshoot of a single progenitor super virus that someone discovered, (except for the black mold in RE7 and 8 which is its own thing i guess.) i'm sure they would just make a super steroid if they could but seeing as every version of this thing is a spinoff of a single virus, they have to work with what they got.

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By the time Umbrella had perfected their line of bio-weapons that were viable for warfare their time as a legal entity was basically up, they never REALLY had the chance to sell or drop any actual completed BOW for war that wasn’t a prototype or a rush job with the exception of relatively small and easier to mass produce BOWs that were STILL relatively scarce.

>>748142550
Yep it's trash. Even if a BoW becomes gigantic like Birkin the army can just drop heavy bombs that can obliterate an entire area. For example Russia's FAB-2000 just costs $25k-$40k. The shockwave alone is so powerful it will obliterate flesh in an instant. Heck in the RE movie a single A10 Warthog destroyed 13 foot tall Tyrants with its machine gun.

>>748142298
Tyrants would be great if the worked like mr x but I'd think only in an urban environment

>>748148140
The dogs can be trained as you can see with gideon sending them after Leon, the lickers just kill their owners

>>748142613
The US Just spent half of its reserve fighting Allhallalaallijjiaj and his brother Ali with a temu drone and a sandal between the three of them (sorry I forgot there was a third guy). I've seen estimates purely in terms of materiel cost around 40-50 billion, total costs over a 100 not factoring trade etc.

This isn't a /pol/ moment calm down just using it as a recent example that 120 mil for a giga nigger with dubious K/D ratio wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. The bigger issue has always been that resident evil applies a truly horrifying terror weapon in a surprisingly dumb and game-enjoyable way rather than you know, just airdropping T-virus over countries that refuse to give you tax breaks.

Obligatory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi0h9pNR1NM&t=84s

>>748142298
Well covid shut down the world economy for years and it was the common cold

>>748157856
>Every B.O.W. whose mind didn't erode/degenerate and remained human
Now I remember that in the Manhua version of Resident Evil that combines game 2 and 3, Nemesis at one point regains some of his memories before he became what he is...and let's just say that while he still goes after S.T.A.R.S. members, he is all but happy about what happened to him and his family. At least he gets the guy responsible for his sorry state.

Armies can't do anything about an airborne virus. A disease spreads on its own while being invisible to monitor until it's too late. There's nothing to be done.

>>748160852
>Armies can't do anything about an airborne virus
??? Just shoot it down

>>748144378
but that is the point... This things are failed projects being sold as premium. The point was not to create an army of undead but to become immortal and super powerful all the monsters are failed experiment that they are selling to make an extra.

>>748145569
oh yeah, it will not take even 5 years to someone come out with a tank that can deal with drones, this shit is new and all the data gathered from the war will shape a new generation of killer machines.

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>>748142298
nothing personal kid.

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>>748157856

Also take in consideration that these games were made in the last half of the 90's. BOW would still be very effective back then and the world would probably move to BOWs than drone warfare if it had happened. With that said a tyrant can still be very useful if you drop 3 or 5 in a big urban center.

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>>748142298
probably pretty useful, but I'd pay good money for my own T-00 Tyrant

>all the retards in this thread that think shitty drones would be able to take down a tyrant
lmao

>>748142298
If tyrants didn't cost literally hundreds of millions of dollars they'd be effective soldiers, but they're no better than a tank when they can be easily killed by anti-materiel weaponry. All the rest can be gunned down with small arms fire, are generally slow moving, and lack intelligence and the ability to use weaponry, which makes them fairly useless. The mold from RE7 is probably the greatest weapon in RE, since it can infect from a distance and based on the controller its victims can maintain all of their intelligence while becoming superhuman and nigh-unkillable.

>>748161636
Each tyrant was literally taken down by a single nigga with an RPG

>>748161636
In RE9 you kill a tyrant with small arms fire and a hatchet. High explosives literally turn them into paste in every appearance. They're durable but they can't survive modern weaponry.

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Oh ho ho ha ha ha, Wesker, you've become senile!

>>748142503
>Most expensive: T
Uroboros would probably be a lot more expensive. Doesn't help that those things have a pretty high failure rate.

>>748142298
They'd only be useful if they're massed produced, but the logistics required to keep them from genetically falling apart after a viral mutation, or eventually turning on their handlers would be a huge waste of money and resources.

Let's say you're the government of some third-world shithole and you scrouge together enough for zombies, lickers, cerberus, hunters or even a tyrant to wipe out Ubunga nation next door. Alright, you win, so then what? Now you've got monsters running amok. Who cleans that up? Are you on your own? Does Umbrella send their UBCS or Hunk niggas to do it at a crazy high additional price?

>>748162501
All BOWs that are not just the virus itself are intended to be controlable and be able to understand and carry out orders, if they’re working as intended, putting them down shouldn’t even be a concern.

their true goal is turning people into superhuman like wesker

>>748142298
Nemesis would be useful. Conventional arms didn't work on it and it took a room-sized plasma cannon to actually hurt it. Even then it didn't die until the nuke hit. There was also HAOS from RE6, Eveline from RE7 and Miranda in RE8.

>Victor Gideon was a Nemesis
>Able to talk, use weapons, presumably even do research
I mean if Umbrella wasn't so stingy with prices for some reason, just replace your infantry with a bunch of Nemesis squads. They don't get tired, they can carry more shit, they can punch through walls, are pretty much immune to small arms fire, etc. All you need to do make sure they all get different cool coats because that seems to be an integral part of the design with all BOWs of that type.

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>>748163014
>There was also HAOS from RE6,
The thing about HAOS is that it was not designed to be a bio-weapon, it was more meant to be a doomsday device meant to destroy the world, so to say that using it for warfare is overkill is a bit of an overstatement.

>>748163031
He was also lasting almost 20 years just fine so that's a pretty good shelf life.

>>748144281
immune

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>>748157856
>WHAT THE FU--

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>>748142298
The original writer for RE1 intended for Tyrant to be dropped onto the battlefield, where it would infect people via T-Virus gas emitted from its heart vents. However, after Mikami kicked the writer off the team they forgot about this which is why REmake removed the heart vents. It was also supposed to have the ability to control zombies which it would use to direct them towards attacking the enemy side specifically. Once the enemy surrendered, the force that had control of the Tyrant would give it a signal which would make it order all the zombies under its command to gather in one place and kill each other to clean that up.
But yeah, none of that actually made it into the game so it doesn't matter.

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>>748162501
Kenichi Iwao actually thought about this. The Tyrant controls all the zombies (that's why it's a "Tyrant"), on mission accomplished he summons them all and kills them before being picked up for extraction. I don't know if any of this ended up being canon though. Seems like they just deploy these niggas to just rip and tear.

>>748144016
>in IRL
>in in real life
Nigga you retarded

>>748163941
in real life is a single word

>>748163941
>he doesn't know about the IRL life

>>748163941
You owned that anon so hard he killed himself, rest in RIP

>>748163941
The I in IRL stands for imaginary

>>748148540
You know drone operators get killed too right?

>>748164181
Nah, I wouldn't.

>>748142298
Pretty useless, the purpose of these experiments is allegedly using bio weapons to decimate entire armies by infecting them and having them turn against the rest of the population and also eugenics to make super soldiers.

All the 150 million bioweapon prototypes are just kind of an excuse for R&D to throw everything at the wall as most military projects do

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>>748147324
Imagine it curled up next to you, doing the creepy breathing sound but in a purring manner and she's super warm and cozy under the blanket with one of her legs drapes over you and her hand on your chest.

>>748164663
1. What does she eat
2. Does she p

>>748164692
1. Cooked meat and veggies. The regeneration needs a lot of energy.
2. Yeah, the bio mass waste from the food needs to go somewhere. This of course means she has a functional vagina and anus. Do with that info as you please, lol.

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>>748142298

>>748164882
>Do with that info as you please, lol.
Appreciate your assistance lol. will get back to you with results

>>748161636
You know the cheapest drones use repurposed RPG heads right? The advanced drones carry more explosives almost comparable to a missile

>>748142298
Evelyn would. RE7's bioweapon is pretty brilliant actually
>drop helpless looking little girl into warzone with specific instructions
>she inevitably gets taken in by the enemy
>infects all their brains without contact and telepathically manipulates them
>or she can just fill all their lungs up with mold and wipe them out overnight

>>748142968
>Implying you can simply turn off markers willy-nilly.
>Implying you are the one in a million, who does not get fucked over by the markers.

Fuck off, Tiedemann!

>>748164181
FYI drone operators are hiding at a minimum of 20 kilometers away from the main front line. And that's because they use fiber optic drones. But now China has unveiled an 80 km long fiber optics spool which Russia is currently using right now. Also if you want just a regular drone that uses satellite connectivity then it has a range of hundreds to thousands of kilometers which is how Ukraine was able to destroy refineries deep inside Russia. So tell me how the fuck can a BoW find a drone operator in camouflage with night vision and thermal camera drones that can detect enemies? Even if it is a fucking Nemesis it will be a needle in a haystack.

>>748146580
Drasai-nsfw, has Newgrounds profile, too.

>>748142298
Fucking humans can kill a tyrant,which is suppose to be what Umbrella is looking with their experimentos,with just a few bazookas,they are shit weapons.

>>748146464
>Double-deck
Yeah, that's the good stuff.

Guys I got an idea what if we made drone bows

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I think wedging a regenerating corpse into a jet engine is a pretty neat idea though.

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>>748166540
The Lepotitsa already follows the drone philosophy, just air drop one into the general area of a battlefield, and just watch as it gasses the enemy population and makes the turn on each other, even if it dies it will still cause a good deal of damage with its gas, it basically works as a bomb that can be air mailed via plane and can decimate enemy battalions with minimal effort, nothing short of an air tight vehicle could block the flow of its gas.

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>>748142298
that's a bomberman

>>748167634
>drills
lol for what purpose?

>>748167857
Except the same game that introduces it also shows how a single missile loaded with the same gas completely BTFOs it by infecting the entirety of not-Beijing by itself
>even if it dies it will still cause a good deal of damage with its gas
Not really, it's range is so pathetic that it only works in enclosed spaces like a church or a plane. Again the missile completely shits on it by releasing so much fucking gas it covers several floors and gets pushed into buildings

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Yikes, these things are pretty scary!

Tyrants and hunters are supposed to be used in precision strikes similar to special forces, not to be deployed in the middle of the battlefield. So instead of fighting highly trained humans, you face supersoldiers or get swarmed by mutated reptiles. The thing also is that they are expendable and will go on any suicide mission, unlike human soldiers that take a long ass time to raise and train until they are fit for service. Ignore the demake price tag that shit is stupid as hell, the entire point of the BOWs Umbrella offered was that they could be quickly mass produced for a relatively low cost.

>>748165925
>So tell me how the fuck can a BoW find a drone operator in camouflage with night vision and thermal camera drones that can detect enemies?
How do you think they are getting killed in real life? lol. While everything you said is true, you have misconceptions on the scope and scale of the war. Just because you have thermal cameras and camouflage doesn't mean you can see everything approaching you or means you are hidden from enemies. Your two words, Camouflage and Thermals work against each other. If you are camouflaged, then what good are thermals? But if you have thermals, then what use is camouflage? So which is it?
Drone operators and even recently, have been hunted down by foot soldiers and killed. Cant find the video but it was talked about when the video came. And this happens in a environment where drones have a hugeeeeee advantage too.
Doesnt Resident Evil have some plant monsters? lol. Nemisis might not be the best BoW but there are others that could excel in hunting your down even in the modern age of drones cause humans already do it either with technology or as a Bio Weapon would, the dirty way. Also you are describing 2 types of drones that. And only the former one is really meant to hit closer targets. The latter has no use (for now) on what we are talking about.
Nemisis costs way too much though. I think only the hunting dog type bio weapons would be of any use. Lickers have really good hearing from what I read, which then then should be able to hear drones like how cats do, and track and hunt down their locations.

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>>748168948
>Except the same game that introduces it also shows how a single missile loaded with the same gas completely BTFOs
Anon, that’s a weapon of mass destruction, a missile of this scale is impractical for warfare, and by this logic we shouldn’t be using drones because we have nukes.
>Not really, it's range is so pathetic that it only works in enclosed spaces like a church or a plane.
Where in the world did you even get this info, you’re completely wrong, a couple of these BOWs caused the entire tall oaks outbreak, and a few were deployed in china and caused several isolated outbreaks that only didn’t spread further because j'avo were already deployed in the area.

>>748169397
>retard who has no idea about what thermals or camouflage are speaks up
Listen and learn, a dumbass is speaking.

>>748151692
well Requiem debunked that

>>748170172
>Where in the world did you even get this info
By playing through the game, but I won't argue with you, between the game being shit and playing it in co-op anything that was implied in the background probably flew over my head. I also didn't beat Ada campaign dropping it after the first chapter, since AGENT™ couldn't do shit and neither of us wanted to play as him

>>748170735
>Retard is so stupid he plays the solo campaign with coop and then complains that the game is not balanced or designed around two people.
I honestly can’t even blame you for thinking the game is shit when you’re THIS stupid.

>>748170917
>buy game to play in co-op
>play through the co-op campaigns
>the last campaign, not in any way shape or form advertised as solo campaign and supporting co-op play, turns out to have much worse co-op support
>drop it
>???
>some retarded nigger on 4chan seethes about this

>>748171121
>>the last campaign, not in any way shape or form advertised as solo campaign and supporting co-op play, turns out to have much worse co-op support
>ability to play coop for the last campaign was patched in on latter updates/releases
>second player is a literal anonymous nobody whose existence is never acknowledged
>first and all following cutscenes show only protagonist
>everything in the game suddenly seems to be designed for one person
Did you honestly need the game to explain to you this was a solo adventure? WOW you ARE retarded.

>>748146353
I wonder if back in the day someone said war was ruined by bows

>>748170224
Oh look a tranny talking.

>>748171469
>>ability to play coop for the last campaign was patched in on latter updates/releases
Excuse me for not buying that shit for $60+tip on release
>>second player is a literal anonymous nobody whose existence is never acknowledged
>>first and all following cutscenes show only protagonist
>>everything in the game suddenly seems to be designed for one person
Thanks for agreeing with me that it has shit co-op support and why I dropped it once we discovered it. Retarded nigger

>>748172181
>using the clearly solo campaign as evidence of bad coop support.
Anon I already knew you were retarded, you didn’t have to reinforce it.

>>748172354
>things I never said
Anon you already proved you're having a melty, no need to post further

>>748172527
>>second player is a literal anonymous nobody whose existence is never acknowledged
>>first and all following cutscenes show only protagonist
>>everything in the game suddenly seems to be designed for one person
>Thanks for agreeing with me that it has shit co-op support and why I dropped it once we discovered it. Retarded nigger

>things I never said


Are you………. Are you ok anon? Are you able to count to 10? How can you even navigate the internet with a brain this small?