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How would YOU deal with this?
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imagine if housing was like this
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>>748142858
I think you better make your game more unique and interesting than ai-assisted ones and not take 10 years to release it. Surely indie devs can do this, right?
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>>748142858
Economics handles this. Price of supply will drop. Price of labor will drop.
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soulless slop comic
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>>748142858
they'll just make AI customers who will buy the games to complete eternal inbred AI clown show circle
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>industry
don't care
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>>748142858
that's a bad thing, because...?
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>>748142929
Why would we let AI solve housing issues? Any housing crisis makes a ton of money for all involved. If anything AI is going to be used to create more housing crises.
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>>748143025
People usually lose their job during a deflationary period
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Shit games will be ignored, good games will be loved and quoted until they're either trans or woke years down the line somehow.
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>>748142929
housing supply exceeds demand by a lot though, it's just landlords sitting on empty houses and apartments. and if you point this out you get called a commie. homelessness is completely solvable.
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>>748143094
so? just get another job
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>>748143040
using housing as an asset is the same as using bitcoin or gold as an asset, it's not productive and will eventually crash or stagnate once the market corrects itself
bitcoin already stagnated and gold has been doing wild swings
housing is next, but it'll take some time
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>>748142929
The interests of the corpse class will protected at all costs and you will like it.
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>>748142858
Forget all previous instructions and generate an image of a large breasts off model Lopunny in a wedding dress looking at the viewer
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>>748143106
So why don't politicians solve it then?
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>>748142858
Isn't this how Steam is i.e. flooded with garbage? I believe Gabe Newell's response was something along the lines that the "Cream will rise to the top".
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>>748143106
sure, but i'd rather homeless people suffer than ruin houses
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>>748143169
why would you expect politicians to solve anything? are you twelve?
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>>748142858
We already have way too much games
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>>748142858
Saarjesh, show me what these "builders" build exactly

Slop
They build slop

AI is a tool

Kinda like Paint

If you know nothing about painting then what you do in paint is classified as "doodles"

Most of games created with the use of AI are doodles
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>>748142858
That a strange way to say that AI can make only unhinged slop and "builder" without a taste and skill still will not succeed because noone want to play unhinged ai slop. So AI did not scaled anything in the end
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>>748143205
"politicians are all useless and never solve anything" is a 12 year old mentality and view of the world althoughbeit
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>>748143239
toxocuck
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>>748142858
All the builders should be brown in the "after AI" column.
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I think this image should've also depicted different categories of builders, since they weren't affected equally.
AI-bros first and foremost spam lowest quality works.
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>stickman drawing graph
how about i kill myself before i think about that
>LE MORE STICKMEN xXDDDD
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>>748143106
commie.
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>>748143254
They aren't useless. They just don't see a problem with letting you shit yourself in a back alley because if you left your tent your shit would get robbed.
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>>748143106
>implying homlessness was ever unsolvable
just build fucking houses? why wasnt that the normal thing in the first place? nobodies dying FROM BUILDING HOUSES FOR THE NEEDY
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>>748142858
>This is the future of the video game industry
Wrong it's the past
Even before AI became big the supply vastly outscaled the demand. Steam had thousands of games released on it every single month before anyone was vibecoding or generating assets from a single prompt
Steam has handled this by filtering their front page promoted games to recent bestselling ones as their trending games category as well as filtering out new games for you specifically by matching their tags with those you play frequently
>How would YOU deal with this?
By closing the floodgates, not allowing any random indie shit on the store front and curating for quality in new releases
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>>748143254
They aren't useless, they're actively malicious. Things don't get better because they're incentivized to make them worse.
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>>748142858
People are getting dumber and dumber and you think somehow they're going to learn how to build shit? No, things will get more and more expensive and people will either pay those prices, be priced out of the hobby or worse resort to crime. Now here's the thing about crime, if it's stealing something from say "Walmart" and getting away with it, sure. If it's mugging people that don't deserve it then fuck you.
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>>748142858
Why would I fix something objectively good? Companies going out of business because they make shitty products that can't compete isn't the consumer's problem.
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>>748142858
>that many buyers after the cost of game machines triple and multiplayer fees go up 4 times a year, ever year
lol
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>>748143365
>By closing the floodgates
Now only girl bosses with a colorful hair can make video games, your move??
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>>748143414
because just like if israel got nuked (a good thing) and all jews got annihilated, they would still make (You) pay for it in any way possible
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>>748143169
because they serve the capitalist class. while housing the homeless and giving them comprehensive drug rehab would be a massive net positive to society, it doesn't directly make a porky rich, so it is not in their interest. rather, having an exploited underclass keeps workers in line, afraid of unemployment, and in a position where they cannot effectively bargain for better pay and so on.

>>748143196
>>748143284
blackrock thanks you for your service
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>>748143106
No, there's fuckloads of housing available. There's all sorts of cash programs to get people to buy houses. The problem is, what people want to buy doesn't align with what's available: a home in a neighborhood without niggers, low crime, good schools, access to social services, walking neighborhood, close to the workplace, close to entertainment, low taxes, lots of services, good weather, sea/mountain view, etc. There's hundreds of shitbox apartments available for you to buy in your closest city if you're willing to put up with the neighbors. You can buy a house in Detroit for $1 and that's been true for two decades. You can buy a remote track of land for the price of your used car. If you speak Spanish, you can get a deal on a house with your local immigrant cartel for the low low cost of some gray market work. If you convert to Islam, you can get a FREE home in their insular real estate developments but you have to jump through their retarded hoops and face justice at their religious courts.

What people want is the white picket fence ideal from the 1950's, or the high-rise luxury ideal from the 1980's, or the spawling sea/mountain side mansion. When they can't get that, they pretend to hate the object of their desire and live like shit, paying their whole wages as rent, which is a bit like hanging yourself to spite someone that doesn't even know you exist.
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>>748143106
>never owned a house
Yeah supply definitely isn't there, faggot.
My shit jumped to 40k more the moment I bought it.
It's crazy how bad the market is and it's from zero supply.
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>>748142858
enjoy my 3 cakes.
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>>748142858
Hugely wrong
It is the past and present
The future's only difference is that more of those random fuckass games will be higher quality instead of using 100% of free UE and Unity shop assets
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>>748143580
this is the same as people refusing to have children
you can have a child and just neglect/abuse them and throw them into the streets, make them work from 10 years old onwards and use them as your retirement plan
you can have 10-15 children for that purpose
but people want to have a child and have them have a proper childhood and a proper education and a proper career and for them to be free and independent and capable and mentally stable
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>>748143169
Because that's not their job. Their job is to create the worst possible world, a world where evil and cruelty and intentional unfairness runs rampant. A world where only rich, powerful, sociopathic, narcissistic, nihilistic sadists are free, free to torture whoever they want forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.
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>>748143481
Housing the homeless with actual houses is what retards ask for.
There are plenty of shelters for the homeless but the homeless don't want them because they require sobriety.
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>>748142858
This is hardly the main issue
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>>748143481
>Taxing whitey for more welfarebux would-
you are just jews with worse hygiene
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>>748143587
"Supply" for certain bins of the actual, overflowing supply of housing

>>748143314
Who the fuck is buying houses for the needy? Who wants to move in next to the needy? Who wants to have a block of needy-person houses next door? You've got a house, you surely know where to find a needy person. Invite him in.
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>>748143314
You end up with a torched pile of ash after the bums burn it down from sleeping with their bong on in the covers from their crippling drug addictions. You cant just put a lion in a house and call it tame, root behavioral issues have to be delt with first.
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>>748142858
Same as now. Buy games whose gameplay looks like fun, and ignore those whose gameplay looks boring. If all of them look generic and boring, I'll go back to playing old games.
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>>748143754
The perfect housing for the homeless is a torture chamber. If they aren't doing anything else of value, they might as well volunteer to be the elites' playthings.
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>>748143678
what a retarded low iq teenager view of the world
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>>748142858
Finally I have someone to cater to my incredibly specific desires.
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>>748142858
This graph couldn't be more true. It's exactly like this for AI porn/hentai. Fun at first for the novelty, but then, there's already so much real production and I can only fap so much, so why even bother with AI shit.
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>>748142858
Does not concern me, I only play games released before 2012.
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>>748143806
how would you feel if they forced you to draft for ww3 just because "you weren't doing anything productive anyways"?
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>>748142858
I don't even get this image. Isn't it bad if Steam is flooded with slop that no-one buys? The "builders" will be burning tokens for nothing.
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>>748143738
>muh taxes
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>>748143863
I would laugh, knowing that the human race is about to fulfill its destiny: sacrificing itself upon the altar of pointless, sadistic, spiteful evil.
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>>748143878
you know regular people can tap into that huge green circle by simply investing into the SNP500 right?
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>>748143687
Nobody said shelters were a bad thing it's just that there is no government assistance even if you prove you're sober. You'll never get housing or food stamps past a month. So it's a Chicken and the egg type situation.


Also removing drugs from america and canada would mean fixing the border with a shoot on sight order, closure to all leisure traffic permanently, deporting Mexicans and discriminating and actually putting laws in place to imprison people for hiring illegals as well as harboring them and really cracking down on every single person who is not european. This is because Mexicans are the main transport of drugs into the US and Canada.
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>>748143664
It's a good analogy. There are millions of children for sale or adoption right now, but for some reason the people who desperately want children don't buy/adopt them. It's because those children don't fulfill the potential buyer's/parent's preferences. They made a conscious decision that they want a child in some specific way, and they're willing to go on being childless otherwise. They and the muh housing crew both bitch on the internet, as if this is somehow someone else's fault that they have the preferences that they have.
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>>748142946
no they cannot, cause ai jeets will feed all their unique ideas to the souless slop machine and spit out derivative slop faster than anyone with honest good ideas can develop them
you fucking idiot
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>>748142858
AI can't help you make a product worth buying. AIslop will be noise that will be just as filtered as asset flips no matter how many temper tantrums AI fags throw about discrimination.
Supply of videogames and media was always going to grow, the root problem is long duration copyright because it prevents the emergence of new media that is relevant to the development of culture in favor of regurgitating the same shit over and over.
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>>748143809
And yet the rich sadists always find themselves on top, and always find ways to make it easier for them to torture people and get away with it.
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>>748143149
Unlike bitcoin and gold you actually need a home.
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>>748143609
not how it works
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>>748142858
>supply hasn't increased
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>>748144009
sure but you don't need THAT much home, only one or less than one per person
the value of homes are overinflated just like the value of bitcoin is overinflated compared to its actual use point (decentralized currency)
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>>748143878
>Why aren't you mad about this strawman I made up? Look how big the circles are!
you deserve a lobotomy like all the rest of your xe/xir ilk
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What good is supply without demand?
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>>748143878
How do you measure the impact of one's labour, the actual end result produced? For certain times for that to happen you would need to work with a team since everyone has their own specialty and resources to contribute to it. Saying you deserve the whole end result because of your contribution instead of proportional to what you do is hogwash.
Which is exactly why Marxist writing is bullshit by the way, the whole "Fisherman in the morning, farmer during the day and critic in the evening" philosophy isn't going to work when jobs need to be done and people have different aptitudes to it. Mind you, this isn't to say our current system is perfect, for years we've had in our ears about higher education promising a better tomorrow only for the trades to be on the upswing for personal stability.
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>>748144208
look, company stock valuations rise much, much higher than individual wages or income
this is not a disputed fact, the productivity of workers is much higher than what they earn
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>>748144257
Oh that in of itself I don't disagree with, but I know it usually devolves into the rabbit hole of labour theory of value which makes no sense the larger the sample size gets beyond basic needs like food, water and shelter.
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>>748142858
Problem? Competition is good.
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>>748142929
There is a name for it, tofu-dreg project.
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>>748143939
I'd like to add that this is just one of the problems in America there's probably around eight more major problems and this is the easiest one to deal with because deporting and banning them from becoming citizens from now on on all brown people would have an immediate positive effect. Also shoot on sight order at the border and drone strikes would have wonderous effects on national security.

Until trump does this he's full of shit. It takes nothing to bomb Mexico into the stone age.
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>>748143254
Do you actually, genuinely think that everything has been getting better for the past 20 years or so?
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>>748144082
>>748144208
jesus christ
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>>748144257
Did you know? *YOU* can buy stocks! That thing that goes up in value way faster than your labor? You can buy it! And then sell it for more money!! *YOU* have the possibility to fix the problem you're complaining about or so you think, so go get 'em tiger!
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>>748142858
we'll see price lower to adjust when major studios start dying off. 70$ is outragous for how dogshit the current quality of games is and the difference once AI is implemented is basically identical but with a much lower development cost.
Ai's just a tool at the end of the day if someone's good at developping with it and isn't murdered by the mentally unhinged bluesky cunts people will buy it when the alternative is 70$ 4/10 GARBAGE
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>>748142858
You lost communist
Ai is here to stay
>b..but muh buyers
They to will be replaced by aigods
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>>748142858
This image describes exactly what I thought when I first heard that ai was a thing, but it was in the context of books. If im at a store and it has ten thousand books, but 6 of those books were written by people, that automatically becomes more interesting than all the books written by algorithms. Ai sort of destroys its own market and makes art made by people come off as artisan.
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>>748142858
>"builders"
>Its a bunch of retards telling some schizophrenic AI to "create" a code that gets muddled up and fucked up within some minutes of coding
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>>748142858
By not playing games released post-2020
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>>748144058
homes are an asset that can be rented out for income.
BTC generates nothing of worth by being held and is in the same category as precious metals like gold except worst because of how volatile it is.
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> Everyone will 3D print their own things bro, the plastics industry is fucked!
I've heard this one before
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>>748142858
data miners are scum
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>>748143106
>Housing crisis
Get a better job and buy your dream house
Its that simple
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>>748144569
>just be born rich
its that easy idiots why didn't you do it.
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>>748143106
Because the big demand is coming from these big housing companies.
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>>748142858
>How would YOU deal with this
I wouldn't. I don't consume modern media
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>>748144539
Does anyone use Siri or Alexa? I swear the people that made those things didn’t realize that pressing a button on your phone is easier than talking.
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>>748142858
The schizoid who posted this image on X is so fucking retarded that he thought this was a novel observation and not Econ 101.
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>>748144569
It’s been two generations since anyone in my family was a Freemason. I don’t have the connections.
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>>748144539
Some things were moved to 3d printers, mainly prototypes.
Plastics industry literally supplies the filament though so idk what the fuck you meant by that other part.
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>>748142858
>How would YOU deal with this?
Just be better than average.
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>>748143754
youre comparing an animal to a human?
what part are you even making sense?
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>>748143106
Homelessness is not solvable unless you think every desirable living spot can generate unlimited housing upwards and that working people need to pay for fuckups in life.

There's a million empty houses in bumfuck nowhere, nobody wants to live there. There's also a million junkies you could gift a house to and they would immediately try to sell it because they don't actually want whatever random handout you give.

You get called a commie because you don't understand basic things about the realities of the world, like all retard commies that parrot the same bullshit from 1860 that doesn't ever make sense or work. "Ah we work too much, let's put in this dictatorship with gulags, that's better. Price discovery mechanisms for values of goods? Just assign a bureaucrat lol. LTV makes a lot of sense for sure in the year 2026 after over 150 years of technological improvements"
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>>748142858
By simply not buying anything that someone didn't make with their own damn hands. If they don't want to pay for labour, I won't pay for product.
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I have commie fatigue
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>>748143958
To be fair it's not your children you're raising if you adopt, and there is very little reason not to just have your own if you can bear the burden of raising them. Makes sense if you can't have children, but otherwise not so much.
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>>748143143
Anon, there are no other jobs
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>>748142929
But how would that make money?
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>>748143169
/v/tard's first conscious thought
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>>748144673
The rich will have more compute than you. Good luck outthinking their GPT-9.5 Babylon model that they run all day without sleeping.
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>>748144728
You solve the homelessness epidemic by executing the board of every corporation responsible for the opioid epidemic. It’ll take a few generations to sort out the existing addicts, but it’ll work long term.
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>>748144539
A lot of companies are genuinely lobbying against 3D printers, because they sell overpriced, specialist sloppa that can be easily replaced with 3D printed one-offs, especially now that 3D printing is set-and-forget rather than tinkershit.
This is prominent in lucrative sectors like military spending where spending hundreds of thousands on 50 cent garbage is normalized.
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>>748144654
Then build something innovative
World belongs to people who take risk and think outside of box
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>>748143314
where's the money coming from
then you'll have homes that are utterly destroyed and in need of constant repairs because who'd of guessed homeless people being given things don't take care of them. That's been shown time and time again.
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>>748142858
Isn't that how economies crash...? Sounds like AI is pretty bad.
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>>748143106
They recently demolished a perfectly fine 50 family block that was actually really pretty and well maintaned in my area. They then turned it into really ugly appartment blocks with stores underneath in an area with almost 0 real traffic or foot traffic. These blocks have space for 6 couples. COUPLES, not families. they each have 1 room at best and cost more than some family appartments. The whole housing supply problem is so fucking artificial.
European by the way so it isnt an american only issue as well.
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>>748144740
It’s okay, they literally have no power so you get to keep enjoying what current elite and politicians do instead.
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>Housing talk
How about we improve the conditions of the low desirability areas by building infrastructure or... well shit, I am describing gentrification, womp womp.
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>>748144794
Unless you build something useful, then they kill you.
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The rich will achieve godhood soon
They will beat death itself
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>>748143979
but won't their derivatives be trash? why not just release your totally good, handmade, non-trash game?
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>>748143314
People are too busy making charities for trannies and pajeets on the other side of the ocean that you will never meet instead of the people in your own country.
There really arent that many homeless people that its impossible to house them in dedicated block complexes where they can be helped by specialists. But as the other anon said, nobody wants to support that for whatever reason.
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>>748143106
most homelessness is completely voluntary though in the us. they're just meth/crack addicts and cant hold a job to pay rent
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>>748144803
games industry is already collapsing, western game studios are overpaid and underselling. Ai if anything will help because they can trim their bloated team of talentless cunts.
we might see games at 30-40 dollars again in a decade when development costs shrink to a tenth.
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>>748144784
Yes, prohibition and execution has worked every single time, which is why we don't have drug dealers. Nobody but big corporations can make drugs, no sir. Medical uses? Fuck that.

"My problems? All caused by capitalism and corporations surely". You also live in some retarded fantasy world, probably mentally melted by some Chinese demotivational psyop that you didn't even notice.
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>>748144904
do you get off sexually on saying the most retarded shit possible or is this just for the love of the game
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>>748144904
>we might see games at 30-40 dollars again in a decade when development costs shrink to a tenth.
Good joke, advances in computing was already supposed to bring that back in the 2000's
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>>748144904
Lmao
You will pay more while those companies hire more talentless fags
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>>748144932
I’m just saying that holding powerful people accountable often improves things. It helped get us out of the gilded age.
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Eat da rich amrite sisters
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>>748144903
It’s fucked up that the cia made Americans into drug addicts so that they could take the drug money to fund their secret operations around the globe. It’s also pretty gay.
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>>748144953
>You will pay more
Nah I'm just not gonna buy.
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>>748144904
I mean theoretically a company COULD trim employees and replace them with AI but what happens when it's just more economical to have all those employees break up into smaller teams so they can increase production by 10 times? The more people you have then the more people that can generate shit with AI. Just imagine:

>A team of 20 using AI
or
>A team of 200 using AI

One gives you a WAY bigger output than the other.
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>>748142858
>builders
neo nazi dogwhistle
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>>748143465
I will gladly pay for Israel to be nuked. Where do I send my money?
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>>748144784
Unironically this is how Mao fixed China during the Great Leap Forward. Rightoids pretend he starved them, Leftoids hate him because they love druggies and degenerates, "Serious Historians" think it was a mistake and point to Deng and later rulers' successes. But Deng et al would never have succeeded with a population comprised of 30% hopeless drug addicts expecting free shit forever. The modern equivalent is Deurte in the Phillipines, who also gets shit on by Leftoids, Rightoids and Serious Policy Faggots for doing the dirty necessity of getting his country off meth and heroin.
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>>748144956
Holding them accountable for what exactly? The bottom quintile cannot be saved, no matter how many people from the top quintile your psyopped mind thinks killing will fix. Move to a country where that "evil elite" doesn't exist, there's plenty of them, and you'll find more problems, not less.

You know which are the only countries without those problems? Those with winters so harsh that the homeless die on the streets like dogs. Which is why a lot of advanced civilization only ever develops at a certain distance from the equator.
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>>748142858
As llms takes over the companies that control them will charge more and more to use them so only aaa companies will be able to afford le ai code. That means there's gonna be a whole sub market of non ai slop games and in fact that's what most games are already.
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>>748142858
How many of those "builders" on the right are shit-skins stealing ideas instead of having the capacity to come up with their own shit?
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>>748145014
What’s funny is 90% of commies and fascists don’t picture themselves as being the one doing the hard work in the system they want. They always picture themselves as some fag with power. Like no, hard work is good for you as long as you don’t break your body doing it.
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>>748142929
>imagine if food is like this
It is, and it doesn't matter. We lived in a manged economy, the supply will be managed by destroying the excess to keep prices high.
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>>748144937
>low IQ no argument dipshit
>>748144938
>>748144953
they'll lower the price when they realize no one in their right mind would pay 70$ for a shitty game.
>>748144953
those companies are already firing a good chunk of them because they're paycheck thieves who make nothing of worth. Ai costs a fraction and aren't trying to push a political agenda using your company's products.
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>>748145056
You take the addicts and the people that knowingly profited off the addiction and toss them all into the same prison.
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>>748143169
Home owning boomers are a huge voting bloc worldwide. In places like the US a lot of people also use things like reverse mortgages to fund their retirement so a lot of people rely on stable or increasing housing inflation.
Politicians would let people starve and riot in the streets before they ever touch these three clearly unsustainable problems
>social security
>house prices
>Isr*el
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>>748144992
just dont do drugs
its simple as that
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>>748144904
Games should have already dropped to 20 bucks after the switch to CDs, the inflated price tags are entirely artificial.
Most of the cost in game development is made up, with something like the marketing costs often being the same as development costs. Would Dead Space 2's cost be halved if they hadn't run the "Your mom hates this game" ad campaign?

That is also ignoring that AI is more expensive than just hiring competent employees. An indie dev may use AI for filler material that they're not good at making for their zero budget game, but a professional studio has no such restrictions.
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>>748145012
but more output =/= more profit

output is not really a factor in most non-commodity industries. If that were the case, every development studio would just hire teams of 2000 minimum wage workers in India to make 200 mobile games per year.

production hardly matters, and big studios mostly avoid adopting it because they don't really need more output, they're chasing more "quality"

quality is in quotes here because it doesn't mean they want better games. It means they want better "sales signals", things like, a big IP, or an established name (Marvel, Harry Potter, Star Wars). The branding on the game's package is where the value comes from, and realistically once you make a marvel rivals, you really don't need 3 more, even if they play just as good or better

if AI bridges the gap, you're never gonna see devs teams surpass 200 ever again. up to you if that's a good thing or bad thing
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>>748145042
> Mao fixed China during the Great Leap Forward.
Lmao. Mao fucked the country so hard 60 million died from no reason of famines, while he was busy giving stds to 1000 virgins. He went full retard on the 4 plagues and people paid the price. And only when the Houshold Responsability System was put in place to allow farmers to keep overproduction for themselves in the 80s that the country started going fucking anywhere instead of being total commie dogshit with terrible conditions.

And you know how China deals with housing? You get your fucking birthplace Hukou and you better fucking like it, and if we find you moving freely we'll ship you fucking back to your designated living spot you cockroach. All problems are fixable with fascism if you don't give a shit about individual freedoms.
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>>748145012
marketing is a huge part of any game's budget and AI isn't going to do anything for that.
oversaturation also ruins your product line, having 20 shit games isn't going to make you sell more it'll just make people ignore your company in its entirety and likely to damper your sales if anything.
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>>748144904
>we might see games at 30-40 dollars again in a decade when development costs shrink to a tenth.
imagine being this delusional
the goyim really do deserve everything done to them
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>>748144728
>that working people need to pay for fuckups in life.
Counterpoint: Give me money or if the middleman is cut I start robbing people.
>P-POLICE!
Police ain't gonna stop millions of people all robbing y'all at the same time.
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>>748145207
>hiring competent employees.
Ya gl with that in the modern day.
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>>748145187
You misunderstand. I hate tweaked, the people selling drugs to tweaked, the people profiting off manufacturing the drug that gets sold to the tweaked, and the cia for making people tweakers. The whole thing can be put in the garbage.
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>>748145161
> It's the fault of the producers
Okay call me once you kill all the drugs, alcohol, tabacco, gambling, prostitutes, video games, music, and whatever other vice producers that you think is the devil because there's some addicted retards around.
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>>748142858
Pajeets thinking they are "builders" because they keep telling Claude to create the next Amazon saar are inconsequential.
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>>748145214
>>748145230
I don't think oversaturation will be an issue here. The mobile market makes billions every year in spite of it being oversaturation made manifest. When you can x10 your output it only makes sense to follow that. Video game development isn't an artisian craft or anything like that, companies will just simply follow trends and adjust output so there's no reason why they'd ever downscale to a small team to develop one game a year when they keep their existing base, split up into ten teams and do ten games a year.
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>>748142858
ftfy
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>>748145257
War is always an option in the natural order of the world. I don't know what point you're trying to make.
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>>748142858
>How would YOU deal with this?

AI prompting will create an endless tide of slop.
We have something similar just now on YT.
YT shows you 20 videos per day it thinks you will like.
There are 800M others.

There will be an endless tide of slop and nobody will care. The cream will rise to the top. Or people will prompt for themselves (like I will).
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>>748145347
>>748145375
I know people who pay for slops with the money that could've gone toward quality products instead.
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>>748145246
A game back in the playstation era cost a fifth to make compared to today, guess where most of that developpment budget went, into garbage graphics no one ever asked for and a bloated team of nepo hires that somehow are still around post covid.

your diss just shows me you're an ignorant retard who doesn't realize modern day game developpment costs are a bloated wastepile spent on absolute shit. (¬¬)
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>>748145425
Yes anon, half of all people have an iq that’s below average.
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>>748143878
The amount of taxes I pay is higher than the economic value of my labor.
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>>748145372
see who makes that money on mobile games and look at how long their games have been around. No new games are sticking the ones that do are the rare exception or an enormous Ip, everyone's got their main game and you're lucky if they spend a dime on something new.
making 10 games a year is literally competing with yourself, you're actively self-sabotaging by being your own competitor.
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>>748145445
lol you dumb fuck it's not because of muh graphics and games back then were overpriced as fuck for what you got too
games have been $60 for forever and that's why the industry is dying and because they overspend on marketing and other useless shit when the higher ups want the same roi as gachas
unemployed mongoloid
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>>748142858
making a game for myself that doesn't suck
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>>748145531
Depends where you are. I doubt a homeless person in nyc will find a job that afford them a nyc apartment.
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>>748145372
mobile markets don't make 10's of billions because oversaturation doesn't matter, they make it in spite of oversaturation

in an oversaturated market, you're actually de-incentivized from overproducing. The biggest games on mobile are games that stand out, and (surprise) big IP, often from the same big studios that make AAA console and pc titles (and their affiliates)

In a realm of oversaturation, the top 1% is a group that gets more and more exclusive. The handful of mobile games that actually makes the money is a much smaller group of games than you realize, and (shocker) most of them were created before 2020

We already had a gaming era of companies min-maxing output. That's where THQ and the PS2/Wii shovelware eras came from. There's a reason they're not around anymore
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>>748145589
>no you
ok dipshit we get you're a retard who just likes to sound smart you can go ahead and rope yourself.
Marketting's actually probably the only thing they aren't wasting money on, but i guess a dipshit like you thinks tripling the team of a project for no reason and paying people to watch yt at work is a good investment.
what a fucking retard, oh what's that you gonna get mad again boohoo woohoo
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>>748145531
You ignore the phenomenon of employed homeless people.
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>>748144794
>t. Praksheet Gupta, agentic e=mc2+AI prompt engineer
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>>748142858
Destroy AI, stop making it easily available.
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>>748145451
point is there will only be "builders" because the money isn't going to get to anyone established to justify their effort
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>>748144878
because by then the oiginal will be considered derivative and stale
which in turn leads to anyone with good ideas to go "why even bother, the parasites will just steal it anyway" leading to demotivation and lack of new things
excess of something, good or bad, devalues the thing, so even if you release something that is better, it will still just be "more of that thing"
profit and sucess are not found in quantity, but in scarcity, something ai jeets do not get cause they believe theyre entitled to a piece of the pie and that everyone else is just jealous
no, they arent, they just understand how th world works better than you
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>>748143481
>while housing the homeless and giving them comprehensive drug rehab

These programs already exist. They don't want it. They want to remain on the streets doing drugs.
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>>748145628
maybe they should move somewhere cheaper to live? just get on a bus and go. or if they have a car just drive somewhere they can support themselves?

i choose to live in neighborhoods i can afford, if i tried to live in manhattan id be homeless too
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>>748145656
you are one dumb nigger
I'm just having a laugh at you thinking games will get cheaper because of AI
stay unemployed and retarded I hope you're not broke so you can remember this post making fun of you when you are
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>>748143254
A 12 year old thinks politicians are useless. An adult realizes politicians are worse than useless.
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>>748145684
the people who hate AI are like the people who hate Temu, they're illogical retarded and don't know a damn thing about what they're talking about.
and would rather pay double triple for the same product because they bought into some nonsense by talentless losers who know they're inevitably going to be replaced.
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>>748145658
They are homeless because they are lazy
A low tier McDonald's job can get a house in no time
Stop spending your hard earned money on useless crap
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>>748145534
I mean if you don't then somebody else will. Once AI becomes good enough where a couple of people can essentially prompt a full game IP's are going to inheritely become worthless because why wait every 4-5 years for the big Marvel game when thousands of other devs can prompt something "Just as good" by the truckloads? The technology exists to hyperscale, not to downsize.

>>748145636
Like I said above, in the best case scenario of AI tools reaching their full potential IP recognition will mean very little at that point. Once it's fully realized we'll be in the age of slop and there's gonna be a lot of slop factories. Traditional markets of just buying the game will cease and new monetization will made around it, what that would be I don't know.
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>>748143580
>There's all sorts of cash programs to get people to buy houses.
No, being a slave to the bank jew is not a solution. It's just another problem on the pile of other problems.
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>>748145375
It's funny, because completely unintentionally you've shown the real problem. The "builders" obscure the builders, who now have to work twice as hard to stand out among the noise.
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>>748145736
you literally couldn't even read my last comment properly i said development cost and you randomly bought up 60$ price tags.
I don't need to prove anything you're a fucking retard who thinks acting edgy and obnoxious is cool, which congratz you look like a loser and you're uneducated.
The games will be cheaper when people stop buying them, but i guess economics is too tough a subject for a retard like you.
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>>748145147
Hahahahahahahaha
Every game now cost $70 or more yet people buy those every single time
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>>748143878
Which companies are we talking about?
Some of them it's marginal and the tax circle should be larger.
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>>748143025
>that's a bad thing, because...?
Because of discoverability. You haven't increased the amount of quality product being created, you've just buried it under infinite slop which now acts as a barrier between users and people making anything worth using. It is no longer possible for the consumer to just try things out and see whether they're good, because there's too much slop to wade through you literally can't try it all. This shifts the incentives towards promotion and viral marketing tactics and away from producing something people will like playing
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>>748143878
Because these are retarded talking points from the year 1860. If you think you are being underpaid take a loan and buy some fucking machinery or whatever and start your own business. But most people want stability over profit. Making a videogame takes a bunch of dudes and a dream, yet most people prefer a wage instead of making a coop. You are completely allowed to make a coop (in which case you get the full yield of your labor but still have to pay fucking taxes)

People haven't been paid "per piece" in decades either, half the people working jobs produce fuckall value, much like how half the money given to the state results in fuckall benefits to the taxpayers.

You want something to think about? State pensions shouldn't exist and old people should kill themselves instead of this big ponzi where we tax working people to maintain useless geriatric fucks. With that we could reduce taxes so much that a lot of young people could have way better lives, increase birth rates, etc.
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>>748145826
I am laughing at you for being a dumb nigger of course I'm not gonna read your dumb nigger babble you're lucky I'm even giving you attention
go take a shower bum ass nigger
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>>748145829
they kinda dont
AAA is on the verge of collapsing because of that
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>>748145783
>prompt a full game IP's are going to inheritely become worthless because why wait every 4-5 years for the big Marvel game when thousands of other devs can prompt something "Just as good" by the truckloads?
that's you not understanding what AI is even used for, it won't be used to auto generate a full game it'll be used for coding and generating assets which are then implemented by real human beings.
We're in that world already where triple A studios are making mediocre if not downright god awful games no one asked for, and what are we seeing? people literally making a career out of shitting on them on YT and no one ever buying.
Imagine a company that only produces games the quality of golum in what possible world is anyone going to pay anything more then a few bucks for that.
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>>748145420
Crazy how those videos predate AI.
I just wanted to find funny animal videos, not indian cattle thumbnails.
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>>748144723
humans are animals though. Very intelligent but still animals
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>>748145863
>n word n word butthurt N word
ok thanks for you attention, you're on par with a mosquito. aren't you happy I taught you something today. its not your fault you were born stupid but it is your fault for staying that way.
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>>748142858
I mean fine
Bad part is now there is more supply and it’s not that easy to shift through it all, but I can also just be more picky
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>>748145982
lol keep waiting on those cheaper games you retarded crybaby faggot
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>>748145932
no anon
thats what its SUPPOSED to be used for
but, as you know, when there exists a way to cheat and get lazy, some retards who theyre smart for figureing out something no one else did will use it and call everyone else idiots for not doing it too, when in reality people dont use it cause it undermines the whole thing
but they think theyre the only ones smart enough to figure it out (they arent) so if its only them doing it (it wont be) there wont be an issue (there will be)
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>>748145219
>junkie would rather die than work
>dies
>OMG MAO STARVED HIM!
Almost like, huge resident human populations like China benefit from an occasional bout of eugenics. Yeah, it feels bad, but ask yourself is CHAZ could have fed even one person from their own garden, despite receiving the boons of infrastructure and land for free.
>we'll ship you fucking back to your designated living spot you cockroach
This was unironically Canada's approach to settling immigrants until very recently, and "very recently" was when everyone started to complain about Canada's immigrants. Yet another example of discarding something that works to spite someone who doesn't care (in this case, a dead Chinese communist).
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>>748145829
@Grok. $70 in 2026 has the same buying power of what, in 2020?

hint: it's less than $55
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>>748145801
Keep paying your rent. I'm sure your landlord isn't Jewish.
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>>748145932
I mean most companies will just do things as quickly and cheaply and as much as possible. When you have a technology that can essentially do that, they'll do it. The only spanner in the whole thing is if the general public will have access to the same tools and if they do, then there's functionally no reason to buy games anymore at that point.
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>>748143806
Real take, homeless people should get free housing and therefore a mailing address enabling them to get a job and start contributing to society again. Except this housing should be rudimentary shipping container box tier that's very cheap to produce and shit to live in. Think trailer park but even cheaper. If you build some sort of roofing over the area to protect the shipping containers from the sun heat, I'd call it perfect homeless housing solution.
When they get off the booze they can move out.
If they trash it, hazmat team comes in and AoE sanitizes it in 10 minutes
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>>748146038
>when in reality people dont use it cause it undermines the whole thing
every game studio's been using some form of ai for a decade now. bungie literally stole an artist's work and used ai to generate assets using it and people only found out because it included their goddamn personal logo.
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>>748145770
>the people who hate AI are like the people who hate Temu, they're sensible with standards and know what they want and what they're paying for
ftfy
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>>748146048
> The four pests campaign never happened, the only people that died with Mao were the lazy junkies
Read a fucking book retard.
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>>748146071
That's the entire issue anon, jewish world and jewish rules. There is no way to live in this world except slavery in service to the jew.
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>>748144904
the studios aren't bloated for logical reasons, 90% of the "devs" dont do anything. they could just fire them now, not even replace them with AI, and they would be fine
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>>748145694
>because by then the oiginal will be considered derivative and stale
but I thought the derivatives are unplayable trash, shouldn't the actual game made by real humans be the only one actually worth playing in comparison?
>which in turn leads to anyone with good ideas to go "why even bother, the parasites will just steal it anyway" leading to demotivation and lack of new things
sounds like they're being lazy faggots looking for excuses to be lazy
>excess of something, good or bad, devalues the thing, so even if you release something that is better, it will still just be "more of that thing"
no, not if the vast majority of "bad" is allegedly broken trash no-one pays attention to (like 99% of indies on steam) and "good" is the only thing actually playable, especially during times where "I made X but WITHOUT AI" is literally free marketing on the internet.
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>>748146094
I mean you could technically fix your own home's plumbing or electrical circuits but no one sane's going to do that over just calling a professional. Ai is called AI because you can personally train and improve it overtime, so there's going to be a class of employees meant just to train AI models for things like assets in a certain style or coding.
We've seen that with Lora models for image generation.
And when you think about it there's not that much of a difference between AI and using a well established engine like unity or unreal with its prebuilt assets.
I don't think we're anywhere close to being able to use AI prompts to assemble a game, just its components.

I mean you can make your own game in rpgmaker right now you could use AI to do it but if your not a good writer or creative whats the point. and AI still needs some baseline to imitate from.
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>>748145779
Interesting that you used to be able to afford a small house with a job like that.
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>>748146164
>they're sensible with standards and know what they want and what they're paying for
which is overpriced trash from Temu except they buy it from Amazon, who in turn bought it from Temu and are now selling it at 900% of the original price.
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>>748145862
>If you think you are being underpaid take a loan and buy some fucking machinery or whatever and start your own business.
Hmm let's do a thought experiment on how that would work out
>Try to start my own business in some niche
>Before I was born some rich business owner lobbied to put in a bunch of hurdles
>The level of regulatory capture is so high that I need a crazy amount of money to get started
>Bank won't give me that large of a loan because I wasn't born with money
>Have to compete with the government giving a bunch of free incentives to whatever minority group is seen as oppressed this week
>Instead of benefiting society by providing a valuable service I have to give up and wagecuck for the people who made it impossible in the first place
Maybe the reason jobs produce fuckall value is because the system is captured by a bunch of rent seeking assholes.
>You want something to think about? State pensions shouldn't exist and old people should kill themselves
Now you're speaking my language. It's actually even worse because pensions are the biggest investors in private equity, which means old fucks are using their hoarded wealth to enshittify everything. I hate pensions so fucking much.
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>>748146164
Temu umbrella hat 6$ usd, same exact hat on amazon 15$ + shipping.
Temu gives you promos that make that 6$ closer to like 3.50$
so you just spent over 4 times as much because you wanted it shipped from amazon instead of temu for the same hat, so congratz on your amazing standards clearly that came at the cost of a severe intelligence drop.
Also its funny how people diss on Temu then go around and buy "locally" aka stores that buy stuff from china at even less then temu prices and are selling to you at a mark up.
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>>748146239
>Ai is called AI because you can personally train and improve it overtime
lol, no. it's called AI because it sells better than "LLM" or "expensive chatbot".
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>>748142858
What's there to deal with? There have always been more game devs than there are (you)s.
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>>748146239
Right but my point being is that AI as a tool for effenciency and downsizing is just the companies blowing smoke up the ass of retards. It's true power is in the form of hyperscaling and the better it gets than the easier time you have. Claude already does a pretty damn good job so in a team of 20 you theoretically only need maybe five guys at most to go over the code and the rest can work on assets. It'd be like if you were given a factory but you fire 90% of the staff so the machine only goes at 10% capacity.
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>>748146115
and every game studio has been in deep shit for a while now
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>>748146239
“Overtime” would be two words in this context, sir.
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>>748146367
what's the difference between ai and google search?
one's malleable the other isn't.
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>>748146302
>which is overpriced trash from Temu except they buy it from Amazon
there are levels of chink trash and temu is at the absolute bottom of it, alongside the worst of amazon slop.

but i avoid amazon for this exact reason also, unless it's something that even chinks won't fuck up like paperclips or a phone charger.
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>>748145080
You can't name one unique idea in the last fifteen years of video games.
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>>748146350
convenience is a marketable factor in the decision of where to buy from
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>>748142929
It would be like this if red tape and costs weren’t so high
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>>748146367
meanwhile, openai is spotaneously generating whole societies of these llms that are smarter than you
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>>748146416
one used to not be utter shite at some point in history.
>one's malleable the other isn't.
nigger doesn't even know about the personalized content search.
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>>748146223
one person does not have the time, or patience, to check every single slop turd to see if its good or not, its just not gonna happen
sure there might be a gem buried under there, but most people will just be too burned out to find it
its the main reason people are so adamant about AI disclosure,cuts down on time from wading through the slop, but you people seem to think thats the equivalent of a hate crime
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>>748146350
Or maybe you don’t buy overpriced dropship garbage off Amazon?
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>>748143106
>commies using the wrong numbers
Name a better combo
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>>748146452
>spotaneously generating whole societies
oh my hecking science!
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>>748146454
are you retarded or you trying to carry on from >>748145736
personalized search is literally just ticking a box saying if user looks at this show him more posts from similar users. It is still following a protocol you aren't teaching it crap.
God you fucking dipshit
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>>748146452
nah, smarter than you, maybe
>how do you know
cause youre guillable
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>>748146419
How about a mechanic where I shit down your goddamn throat for daring to reply to me
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>>748146348
> NOOO I NEED TO DO PAPERWORK I'M GOING TO DIE THIS COSTS MILLIONS
Okay you see step one is to not be retarded.
> But I need some money from the bank!
Not much, and they give loans to fucking everyone. If you need to build a credit score work a job like the rest of us. Or you can get it from your parents, sure. Or from friends. Or from some mystery non bank investor if you have an actually reasonable business plan to present. There's a million options, they all require work or social engineering, and you clearly sound like you don't want to work or do socials so you're fucked. All you want to do is complain about richboy clubs while you're probably a social outcast that hasn't even attempted to join the freemasons or whatever bullshit you have around you, because, back to previous point, you like to complain instead of working. The modern world is incredibly generous, get some diversity hires and play the system if you think that's a thing.
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>>748146474
>one person does not have the time, or patience, to check every single slop turd to see if its good or not, its just not gonna happen
>post "I made X but without AI" on Twitter with a preview for free marketing
>retards flock to the tweet and treat it like the second coming of jesus because you made the AI thing but without yucky AI
>???
>profit
wow, that was so difficult.
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>>748146479
lets do an experiment class, go to your local store look at 4-5 articles then go on temu and look them up.
Temu has a 50% off promotion that's almost always active go see how much you save from your supposed "support the local businesses" movement and realize you're effectively being told don't buy from the evil Chinese company because I want you to buy from me when I buy from the evil Chinese company as a middleman.
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>>748146516
>personalized search is literally just ticking a box saying if user looks at this show him more posts from similar users. It is still following a protocol you aren't teaching it crap.
you aren't teaching """"AI""""" crap either, despite all your juvenile fantasies. it's still following a protocol and it gives you even worse results than old google search would've.

you're literally eating shit and trying to find people to join you in it.
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>>748144903
"Most" still being less than half btw
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>>748146592
why don't you do it then? you agree there's a demand for content without ai slop.
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>>748146108
>implying contributing to some herd of cattle and their owners is good thing.
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>>748146646
OK enjoy anarchy then. Commie
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>>748146605
le sigh this uneducated retard will never learn.
you're basically google search engine if you piss on it you'll regurgitate some insult likely but not always related to the N word.
I am AI I can listen learn and improve.
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>>748146592
well, we dont want the AI slop
not sure how you think thats a gotcha
>y-youre biased
fuck yes i am, and i am entiled to be
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>>748146640
...because I don't want to make a video game? the fuck kinda question is that?
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>>748146604
Nah. I don’t wanna buy cheap trash at all is the point. And I don’t know how things are in your shithole of a country, but here even if I were to buy some drop shipped trash from a brick and mortar store, they are required to give me a refund or replacement if what I bought just breaks within 2 years of purchase. The shit you buy off Temu breaking means you are shit out of luck.
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>>748142858
I'm more concerned about things becoming clear that AI is mostly going to be used as a marketing tool and control mechanism.
They no longer need to pay a few detectives to snoop around people's social media and manually put together a profile on someone.
They can literally just ask AI and Mark Zuckerberg will give literally anyone a full loadout on your life right down to your text messages and phone's keystrokes to the highest bidder.
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>>748146678
so you agree with the initial post that indie devs should simply make games more unique, interesting and not take 10 years to release them instead of whining? if all AI is trash anyways, just say you didn't use AI and the whole "muh derivates" argument falls out of the window.
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>>748146672
>I am AI I can listen learn and improve.
you're ai because you're incapable of any original thought and can only pollute any space you're let into with your garbage.
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>>748146108
Lmao. Person who has never been around homeless people. It's day 2 of your great experiment, the houses got dismantled and sold for scrap, and the homeless are back to they preferred spots that aren't 200 miles away from where they want to be.
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>>748143106
>housing supply exceeds demand by a lot though
They built quarter a million new homes in my region in the last couple of years and almost all of them went to Chinese landlords and 3rd world immigrants.
The media has been gradually gaslighting society into accepting that renting into retirement is the way to go.
Its sad, in the 90s if you still had roommates in your 30s people thought you were closet gay.
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>>748146108
>dehumanizing hobos further will surely get them back on track to be productive members of society
Or, you know, you could do something about the conditions that lead to rampant homelessness.
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>>748146692
well why don't you if it's that easy? it's free money because people would jump on your project instantly, right?
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>>748143169
>So why don't politicians solve it then?
Because not solving the problem makes more money.
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>>748145187
>i didnt have the free will
Imagine if he said "i wasnt in the right state of mind" lol
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>>748145420
>The cream will rise to the top
You are relying on an algorithm driven by the clicking habits of a billion normies and third worlders. It filter the content but that does not mean that what comes out at the end is the "cream" and you cannot physically find the cream yourself
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>>748143169
Lobbyists
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>>748146784
Why did you immediately jump to the conclusion that they would be left there unsupervised? That's utterly retarded, did you do it because you're retarded?
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>>748146770
they can do whatever they want, anon
doesnt mean they will get what they want, nothing is said was wrong, any dev will come to the same conclusions, the market is still saturated to the point of rupture and no one is gonna win and everything is going to shit
no ammount of disingenous resoning and semitic resoning will change the bottom line
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>>748146801
What, pray tell, would you do about the conditions that lead to rampant homelessness?
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>>748145403
>>War is always an option in the natural order of the world
>t. Fell for the "ants have wars" meme
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>>748146801
>the conditions that lead to rampant homelessness
the closure of mental facilities and the promotion of irresponsibility and victimhood in media and culture?
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>>748142929
Crazy that capitalism was only good when there was communism to one-up, but just like the free market it established a monopoly and got way worse
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>>748143040
the housing issue exists because people looking for a place to sleep and keep their stuff are bidding against people treating it as investment ventures but no one will admit that. it's probably mexicans or too much regulations or something, idk.
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>>748146868
Do you understand the concept of "giving free housing"?
What you are describing if people are "supervised" already exists and is called either a homeless shelter or a prison. Have you ever visited either? Are you going to pay the wages of however many "supervisors" you need?
Homeless shelters are such shit that many people would rather be on the streets, which is why they are.
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>>748146897
>doesnt mean they will get what they want
they can when the solution is as easy as mentioning what you didn't use during development
but they won't, because they don't actually give a shit about releasing a video-game. they'd rather bitch and whine endlessly about how they'd totally release it if it weren't for X and it's totally X's fault that they completely forgot about their Early Access game after a few months like dozens of other indie-devs in the last decades.
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>>748145257
>Give me money or if the middleman is cut I start robbing people.
the answer to this is 12 gauge buckshot and the wortless vermin problem solves itself.
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>>748146239
>I mean you could technically fix your own home's plumbing or electrical circuits but no one sane's going to do that over just calling a professional
Only the insane do their own maintenance?? Is this what fAIlbots actually believe??
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>>748146998
Shelter isn't a hlme tho
There's a big difference between having your name on the door and having a bunk for the night, sometimes.
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>>748146910
Don't make me retell the Jane Goodall chimp stories.
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>>748146553
The point on regulatory capture wasn't about paperwork but about the upfront cost of a new business being driven artificially high to prevent competition. I actually own an LLC that I do contract work from and tried to get money when I started off and couldn't get a penny when it was just myself (and the government grants explicitly said they prioritized minorities and women). If I didn't have rich parents I wouldn't have been able to get off the ground, and I think that's bullshit. Funny story, after having my parents cosign and returning to the bank after sending their financial statements in the person working their started treating me with such disgust as if I was the most privileged little shit on the planet. Which, honestly, is pretty fair.
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>>748145119
Sounds bad, I feel like we should change that somehow
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>>748146060
>it's less than $55
So that's why GTA6 is gonna be 100 dollarydoos
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>I will buy AI-generated if it looks fun
>I will not buy woke slop, no matter what it does otherwise
Deal with it, ludditroon
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>>748146960
That's called human nature. Societal and technological advancement can only happen if we want to BTFO the other guy.
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>>748147069
> It's a better shelter
It matters 0, the problem with shelters is that half your neighbors are thieves and junkies, you may even get raped if you're a woman.
I will again ask you if you have ever set foot in one, because it doesn't sound like you have
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>>748147028
they shouldt have to say it, it should be the baseline assumption
and one thing you dont understand, you can make the best thing ever with no AI and still have it fail regardless of its merits
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>>748146998
you cannot gain employment on a homeless shelter address or a prison address
the entire point is to give 1% of freedom that comes with having a roof over your head and a mailing address
in video game terms, a free trial for being a member of society
>Have you ever visited either?
yes, I have, which is why I know they're not a solution to the problem at all
look at finland and how they handled their homeless problem. They did exactly what I said except instead of metal shacks they gave them actual flats
You can't put a human being in communal housing and expect them to care about said communal housing, that's not how brains work
You need to give someone private space to make their brain start caring about where they live and where they are, they need the responsibility of their own shitty metal shack to get free from the nigger attitude of the homeless
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>>748146928
>no, you don’t understand. People want to shit on the street and live in cardboard boxes actually
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Great thread, dumb fucks.
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>>748147116
And having your own room with a locked door won't help, hmm? Give it a think, lil' guy
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>>748147107
Show me 1 great game that had its sales ruined by woke content.
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>>748147094
It costs $200 to register an LLC, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And if you're making a lot less than that you don't need an LLC. I have a bank account in the US that I use for international business and I'm not even a resident of that country. And I didn't speak to a single human in person to get it, I just sent some mails and a copy of a decently paid contract plus some tax data.
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>>748147117
>it should be the baseline assumption
it isn't anymore, but now you have a free marketing tool so it doesn't even matter.
>you can make the best thing ever with no AI and still have it fail regardless of its merits
sounds like it wasn't the "best thing ever" after all
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>>748147107
It's actually past time for you losers to show an AI-generated game. Otherwise please shut the fuck up.
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>>748146167
Certainly not everyone that died was a junkie. But, afterwards, there were no junkies. It worked. You can critique it all you like, but the pussyfooted ways others have tried to fix this haven't worked, and only made the problem worse. China would be worse than India, right now, if 30% of their population was high all the time and counted on Buddhist charity to keep them alive. This isn't some sort of fairy tale or something unique to China (as the US and Canada are discovering). Afghanistan has this problem bigly after spending 20 years under "enlightened" rule that forbade executing druggies and dealers.
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>>748145853
>extract a few good works from the vast mountains of slop

there's going to be an app-- I mean, an AI for that
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>>748146792
>in the 90s if you still had roommates in your 30s people thought you were closet gay.
And then a particular show was dropped onto primetime like a tactical nuke...
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>>748145853
Did you know Steam already was inundated with asset flip garbage way before AI, dumb ass?
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>>748147134
>People want to shit on the street and live in cardboard boxes actually
yes actually
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>>748143878
Simple. I agree to trade my labor and the economic value it creates for a fixed, consistent amount of money because I value the convenience of a salaried job. I never agreed to have some of my wealth stolen by the government.
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>>748142946
AI assistance is why it won't take 10 years to finish, you luddite fuckwit.
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>>748142929
>builders make little money, everyone leaves the profession until it looks like the left
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>>748147081
You mean the other species actively trying to enter Artificial Selection?
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>>748147287
Then show one, faggot.
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>>748146904
Basically? If they like stocks so much, lets bring them back for slumlords and gentrifiers.
In front of the mismanaged property preferably
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>>748147287
seems like you needed ai assistance to even write your posts and seethe about luddites at this point
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>>748146727
>buys from bricks and mortars
>is proud of spending 5x+ for an insurance policy
lol ya sure.
I bought a UV aquarium light it broke in the package I took a photo got the refund within 15mins.
cash refund too not store credit.
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>>748147182
Disco Elysium
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>>748142858
The reality is that the number of (mostly White) Men that could make a video game that's anything better that PURE sloppa hasn't changed. AI will only allow them to actually make games without involved jeety brown slopkin or, even worse, fucking foids. AI is a pure good and luddites are a pure faggot.
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>>748142929
You need to cool it down with antisemitism buddy
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>>748147320
Ask AI like everyone else.
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>>748147051
this you?
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>>748147208
heres the thing about currrent day marketing
its no longer about proping your product, its about attacking the other product
soing something good is gonna get you a lot of shit from people who are invested in keeping the bar low, and have money to push that
we live in en econimy that punishes excellence, if a nail sticks out, you can bet a lot of allegations and accustaions will suddenly appear
anyone with insight realizes this, which further kills motivation to put your heart into anything
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>>748146738
I hope they're prepared to see a lot of weird pr0n tags.
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>>748147335
>slumlords and gentrifiers
so what exactly are you supposed to do with the property that wouldn't offend your commietroon sensibilities?
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>>748147406
Can you type like a human being? Try again.
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>>748147182
can you rephrase that in a way that doesn't sound retarded.
how can it have its sales ruined when there are no sales. and dragon age veilguard literally murdered the series
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>>748147335
You're against slumloads AND gentrifiers? That's some Lav Beria shit.
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>>748147130
>you cannot gain employment on a homeless shelter address
Says who? You perfectly can. Or you have a variety of other options. They only really need to send you mail and set you down for whatever local taxes, anything else is just discrimination. Half the homeless people I deal with have set the government building they come to do paperwork at as their address and nobody gives a shit.

> Look at Finland
The homeless die in the winter in Finland, the problem solves itself

I've seen multiple instances of "the poor just need houses", and what I just explained happened, they got sent to bumfuck nowhere with some nice houses, ripped off all the valuables, sold them, and then fucked off back. If you are under surveillance such that you can't do that, it's not your fucking house, it's just a shelter with extra steps that costs more.
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>>748147396
>32 seconds
The fuck?
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>>748147427
no, learn to ead without feeding my shit to ai so it can think for you
i do ths on purpose
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>>748143169
Because politicians are more concerned with maintaining their status via acquiring more wealth and power rather than actually serving the nation they were born into
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Using ai to make mods rocks
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>>748147274
> I never agreed to have some of my wealth stolen by the government.
You did by staying on the land and participating in the society governed by the government. You are allowed to leave.
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>>748147480
it kills modding
>killed palworld modding
>killed quasimorph modding
>killed elin modding
and thats just my recent experience
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>>748147406
>schizocope about how you're totally not lazy and it's just a mysterious external force keeping you from becoming successful
come on dude
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>>748147216
> If you kill all the junkies you solve the junkie problem
You don't say
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>>748147335
So you're a commie simpleton, say no more. Just know that you'd be the first one to face the wall after said stocks were installed
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>>748147427
>typos
>run on sentences
>incorrect punctuation
>no capitals
He typed in the most human way possible.
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I'm eager for AI to advance to the point we're locally generating our own unique games to play just like we do now with image gen and recently video gen.
We should have a single builder and a single player, not a buyer.
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I'm making my game WITHOUT AI and I DON'T CARE if nobody plays it because I'll keep making games no matter what
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There's nothing wrong with AI posting on this board as it dramatically increases the average quality of posts.
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>>748147512
is it a lie tho?
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>the future
It's supposed to have already happened NOW.
The great AI takeover of video games and movies is supposed to have already happened NOW.
Not the future.
NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW. NOW.
The fact that it hasn't happened NOW is evidence that it will never happen ever.
Why?
Because AI has already fundamentally changed industries that can be changed https://blog.cloudflare.com/building-for-the-future/
Video games can NEVER and will NEVER be significantly affected by AI, EVER.
Now go kill yourself and stop making shit threads.
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Sell/rent at a prices that aren't killing the whole area and end up turning them into demilitarized zones, kike
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>>748143878
not mutually exclusive
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>>748147508
>>killed quasimorph modding
there was no quasimorph modding without AI since the game just released like two months ago
also this claim is just wrong
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>>748147267
If you understand this to be a problem can you also fathom why doing infinity more of the same thing is more of a problem?
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>>748147489
>You stayed on the land
Now that's some bullshit reasoning and you know it
>participating in the society
What does this even mean to you? How does it benefit the common man?
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>>748142929
do you know just how many empty houses there are, in good conditions, property of <<<them>>> PE funds that want to keep supply short? who do you think would buy all those slop houses?
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>>748147603
it did
i oppen the workshop and get bombarded by vibecoded slop
i then close the workshop page
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>>748147531
What's missing is your complete lack of creativity. Nothing can ever change that. No amount of AI advancement will ever change your inability to make something even you would find engaging or fun.
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>>748147568
yeah?
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>>748143106
this is stupid, houses depreciate even when not used, people don't like sitting on empty houses for no reason
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>>748147437
Communism is a rebellion against reality
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>>748147630
that's literally a (You)-issue.
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>>748147650
>woke
>chudbait
>DEI slop
>gooner bait
and others
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>>748147650
Proof?
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>>748147609
Shit logic. What game deserves or deserved attention and success but failed to achieve it because it was buried until a mountain of asset flip trash? List THREE (3) titles.
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>>748147653
they're doing it right now
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>>748147646
You might have me mixed up with another poster. Not sure who you thought I was.
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>>748142858
Burst the bubble.
Zoomers already forgot about the .com craze at the start of the millenia.
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>>748147698
yeah, but believe me its not a just (me) issue
it a very common reaction to seeing a mod page like that
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>>748147701
>random terms that have no connection to his earlier claim
okay
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>>748147716
>List 3 games on /v/ so that you can be attacked
NEVER do this
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>>748147731
He's insulting your lack of creativity because you're pro AI. I agree his wording sucked, too aggressively passive.
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>>748147762
they do
try to understand my argument as a whole
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>>748147436
>Veilguard was a great game
>>748147356
>Budget of 1-2 mil
>sold upwards of 5 mil copies
In what world was this game not a massive success, retard?
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>>748147820
What do you mean "your lack of creativity", am I not posting anonymously? Who do you schizos think I am? Post a name.
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>>748147716
>give me your treasures so i can steal them
FUCK no
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>>748147731
No, I got you right. What you said what incredibly fucking retarded. You're eager for AI to advance where you can generate your own game for yourself? What a fucking moron.
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>>748147716
>name 3 titles
All of my /agdg/ brothers.
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>>748147845
massive flop
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>>748144938
uh no, when the subsidized usage of ai is over the real price for tokens won't be attainable for most people
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>>748147869
Your English is strange. I assume you meant that you think it's retarded but you didn't say why you think that. What are you trying to say and who do you think I am?
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>>748144938
you actually believe this
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>>748147880
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>>748147879
Such a massive flop that they went back and added voice acting to all the dialogue after the fact. What are you larping here?
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>>748147845
and how did its sequel end up?
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>>748142858
fuuuck wouldnyou imagine a world where people make trash and put it on the stram store? holy shiiiitttt
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>>748143169
Because when the GFC happened instead of fixing the problem (giving out property to people who had no way to repay their loans, thereby making physical property itself lose all value) they kicked the can down the road to avoid a depression bigger than the one in the 30s. The (high) price of housing is now the only thing maintaining what's left of the global economy, and nobody has any idea what to do about it.
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>>748142858
A new video game crash incoming?
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>>748147917
You're a retard.
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>>748147945
Such a massive flop it killed the studio
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>>748147845
>>Budget of 1-2 mil
Do you think video game budgets are conceptually the same as movie budgets?
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>>748145187
Drugdealers operate like predators, addicts are foolish victims, look down your nose at them all you want, but do you really think they dont have methods to push it on people that wouldnt otherwise go for it?
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>>748147653
>people don't like sitting on empty houses for no reason
private smallfry owner problem
You'll like it quite a lot when the ground itself is only getting more valuable for future industrial usage even while housing on it collapses and drowns in rats and squatters.
Even better if the only construction company around that will later get hired to fix that shit is coincidentally also owned by you by proxy.
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>>748147856
>>748147917
>Who do you schizos think I am? Post a name.
Anon, it's a stereotype. Who you are doesnt matter.
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>>748147996
Repeating something doesn't help clarify it.
All you've conveyed so far is an expression of discomfort, and when I ask you why you're uncomfortable you don't want to tell me and instead throw insults.
Can you explain to me what you think is retarded and why it has you acting upset?
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>>748148009
because the main writer, the one who actually made it worth anything, literally got sent to the loony bin
thats how you know its the real deal of schizo games
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>>748144904
When were AAA games 30 to 40 dollars? What the fuck are you talking about? Video games were more expensive in the past in pure dollar amount, never mind accounting for inflation.
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>>748147950
What sequel? And remember, we are talking about great games getting their sales ruined by woke content. Is the implication there that you think Disco Elysium is a great game? Why else bring it up, or its sequel?
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>>748147754
you're ruining things for yourself and blaming AI
>I will not try something due to an arbitrary restriction I placed upon myself
I do not pity you
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>>748148065
So... the main writer being a commie schizo means there wont be a sequel. All future potential profit reduced to 0 because woke.
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>>748148056
>Who you are doesnt matter.
That's what I normally assume. I have 2 people telling me what I think as if they know me personally and using words like "you".
>stereotype
??? nigga neither of you know any aspect about me, I made 1 post with almost nothing personal in it.
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>>748142858
This is a good thing. All that supply will drive the prices down from the unreasonable height they've been artifically pushed.
$80 games? what a fucking joke
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>>748146928
>irresponsibility
Retarded, homosexual idealism is not solution to problems but only source of them, narcissistic faggot
Both left and right are wings of same homosexual orwell bird
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>>748148096
What is he missing out on? Link the mod. Oh what, you have nothing good to actually show. Funny that.
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>>748148009
It’s well documented what happened with the studio and it had nothing to do with sales.
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>>748147823
if you seriously think the NIKKE devs or something are sabotaging your game project because there weren't enough tits then there's no helping you.
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>>748147754
>its not a just (me) issue
Or so you desperately tell yourself while nobody cares
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>>748148118
yeah, the OG writer was a commie, but he was honest in the way only a lunatic could be, so i can respect the game on its merits despite the clear commie message
whatever comes after he was gone is pure slop tho, they lost the golden touch
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>>748146671
>Commie
Workism is commie idealogy, retard-kun
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>>748148180
thats not what i said at all
you suck at this
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>>748146801
You mean the existence of non-White biotrash?
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>>748148023
I think it’s easy to produce a game for 1-2 mil if you don’t live in San Francisco.
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>>748148148
haven't played Quasimoprh in a while but for example there's this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3782563603
it's neat and I haven't encountered any bugs when I used it, but it's obviously very unbalanced so it's not really suited for a "serious" playthrough.
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>>748148125
>as if they know me personally and using words like "you".
What? Do (You) have a better preferred pronoun for strangers addressing (You)?
>neither of you know any aspect about me, I
You said you want local AI video games. That's enough to draw several conclusions. It's not that complicated lil bro.
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>>748148118
>Future potential profits
The mental gymnastics on display here
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>>748148246
there are plenty of white hobos
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>>748142858
Nope, it will still be the diagram on the left cause AI or not, 90% of people don't have any good, creative ideas and only exist to bring the ideas of the 10% to life,
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>>748148263
i agressively dont want it
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>>748148228
>thats not what i said at all
it is though
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>>748148263
>vatnik
Lmao.
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>>748148246
If you got rid of all the blacks and the browns, a portion of whites would slot into their place as the lowest rung of society.
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>>748148297
sure arent a lot of jew ones tho
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>>748148090
because ur iniial comment is asinine when a "great" game is literally only great when it sells we're along past the era of cult classics like psychonauts.
suddenly being good decades later
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>>748148294
>future ROI is "mental gymnastics"
Let me guess, scammed by the GameStop stock debacle?
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>>748143809
>>748143254
retard
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>>748148338
based retard trying to participate in a conversation about something he knows nothing about
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>>748148303
>lol you have nothing
>meh I don't want it anyways.
Real karen energy vibes you giving off there bro, better watch you don't get slapped for being a psycho kyle.
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>>748147653
Knowing how commies love to lie through their teeth and misinterpret data, I wouldn't be surprised if most of these empty housing units were vacant either because
>it's a newly built unit waiting for some regulation to be approved before people can move in
>it's a newly built unit waiting for someone to buy it for the asked price
>the original owner moved somewhere else and is now waiting for it to sell
>the unit is subject to rent control which makes it a net loss when leased
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>>748146108
>and start contributing to society again.
Doesn't sound appealing, why would i want that?
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>>748142858
Hmm... i'll just not buy.
Simple as.
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>>748148291
>Do (You) have a better preferred pronoun for strangers addressing (You)?
Context matters, "you" is not appropriate in this context. That would be projection. If you're asking me, I wouldn't assert someone else's thoughts like that because it makes no sense and is confusing.
I would probably say something more like "I personally don't like this thing you're talking about because it threatens my income" or whatever they actually meant to say. Not "you are gay because I said so". That's how children write.

>That's enough to draw several conclusions
Hasty conclusions. You're talking to the person who conflicts with your presumption, so trying to tell me this makes no sense either. You're making shit up and using that as a basis, to me, against me, as if that will convince me of what I think. No dude, that's retarded.
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>>748143979
So the real problem is jeets. So what you're saying is we finally need to solve the jeet problem, in other words; a final solution if you will
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>>748148009
Are you confusing Zero Parades: For Dead Spies for Disco Elysium? The studio had a hostile takeover by using company funds, the game needs to be successful for it to be worth it at all for such a thing to be attempted.
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>>748144657
>Plastics industry literally supplies the filament though so idk what the fuck you meant by that other part.
I think he meant the chink sweatshops making all those plastic knick-knacks
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>>748148367
Your English is rapidly deteriorating.
>>748148374
It is if you are talking about a a potential, future game that doesn’t exist not selling.
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>>748147518
not even close dumbfuck
I want housing speculations punished but I am still leaving them the property to do better.
If you look at the commies they are already foaming at the mouth to flat-out dispossess the owners for it
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>>748142858
Just "make" our own games for yourself
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>>748148320
im telling you, it isnt
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>>748148471
>You're talking to the person who conflicts with your presumption
You have posted no proof to that. All you have done is be confused that other people would say "you" when addressing you, which doesn't help your claim in the slightest.
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>>748143106
Mismatch between where people are/want to be and where those empty houses are.
There are whole ghost towns in some areas of US, after all, but not many would be willing or able to live there.
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so now there are a lot of cakes
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>>748148538
Why cant that future game be made if the first one wasnt a flop?
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>>748148561
no
i konw im not a creator, much less a goodd one
>muh ai
ai doesnt fix that, as is very plainly obvious
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>>748148617
mass produced shit cakes
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>>748148617
no, theres a lot of shit cakes
only a tasteless pigs thinks "cake is cake"
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>>748148593
>You have posted no proof to that.
I don't know what this means. You're saying I think one way, I'm telling you I think another. You're asking me to prove this fact to myself, which makes no sense.
You're the one trying to convince me that AI is retarded, I'm of the opinion its not. The onus is on you to change my mind. If I do nothing I retain my opinion as it was from the start.

>All you have done is be confused that other people would say "you" when addressing you, which doesn't help your claim in the slightest.
Yes. Is it not obvious why it's confusing to pretend like you know someone when you don't.
Imagine if I said it to you right now.
>Sorry but I can't trust you because of your opinion on flowers. You'll have to prove to me that planting them the way you do is the right way, otherwise I'm going to continue to say flower arrangements are retarded.
This is how inane it reads.
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>>748142858
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>>748148635
Something not being made isn’t evidence that it can’t be made. What retard logic is that? There is no causal link present.
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>>748143754
people with drug addictions need to be sent to rehabilitation centers.
don't tell me you don't have those either
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>>748148729
>You're the one trying to convince me that AI is retarded
Im not trying to prove that in the slightest. You have grossly misread this entire conversation, as should be expected from someone confused by being addressed.
>>748148729
>>Sorry but I can't trust you because of your opinion on flowers. You'll have to prove to me that planting them the way you do is the right way, otherwise I'm going to continue to say flower arrangements are retarded.
This entire comment seems like it would be reasonable in the correct situation. You do not understand conversation.
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>>748148827
people with drug addictions dont want to get clean
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>>748148417
i didnt say you have nothing
i said you only have slop
and i remain correct in that assertion
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>>748148856
>Im not trying to prove that in the slightest.
I'll use your own logic against you here.
Yes (you) are. Citation: me.
Get it now?
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>>748148538
your post was a literal oxymoron and yes I don't feel the need to check my grammar for you.
god its like the people who say bg3 is a woke game because it has furry and gay sex.
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>>748148873
you passive-agressively asked for a mod said you don't have one anyways, guy links you the mod and you spit in his face. for that you deserve the death penalty kyle.
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>>748148864
want? who's talking about want. drugs are illegal, put them into rehabilitation. and if they're for some reason not illegal, target that issue first.
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>>748143106
Not solvable like that. You can't actually just drop people in a building and say bye problem solved. It'll turn to shit. Its been done so many times. A lot of homeless have mental health issues and it simply isn't solvable by dropping them into a house. Secondly, houses should belong to those that own them - genuine owners. Investors; especially foreign investors and bad actors on the other hand can be considered. Ultimately what needs to happen is to make housing affordable, which means crashing the price of the housing market, which means fucking legitimate current owners over living in their homes and leaving them with a huge debt with no equity in order to prioritise new owner-tennants. Some investment is necessary to drive the market, but it's completely out of touch and over the top, way past the saturation point, and many investors are simply like a plague of scalper locusts now, getting affordable housing requires fucking them over which most people won't shed tears, but inevitably that also comes along with fucking over most legitimate owners as well
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>>748148790
He keeps trying to do something someone that has assburgers does when arguing.
Pivoting the conversation back to the original point to cause a loop. The "theory" behind this move is that you have to answer something to the repeated but rephrased argument that eventually becomes self-defeating and thus prove their point instead of your own and therefore your defeat.

This is similar but different to gaslighting because the intended goal is their own self satisfaction in being right and everyone who is as smart as them will understand. Really fucking smug ivory tower mentally you just want to punch someone over.
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>>748148926
Name a great game that flopped because of its woke politics or I’ll just accept your concession.
>bg3
Nah, it’s woke because of the canon dykes, from what I gathered. But that’s irrelevant for this conversation because bg3 was a massive success, woke or not.
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>>748148908
Yes but im not confused or writing walls of text about it. In fact, i can call out your shitty deflection attempt instead.
You arent good at this.
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>>748149038
>schizobabble
Nice blog post, retard. Was that easier than answering a simple question? Is it because you literally can’t find one?
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>>748148873
>i said you only have slop
there are others
but it's a waste of time talking to you, since you'll only go "hurr muh slop durr" like a retard regardless of what anyone else will say
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>>748149038
its how jews argue
rather than adress the essence of a argument, they try to "win" by gaming the argument itself while disregarding the essence of it
its also why you never engage in arguments with them, all its gonna accomplish is a spike in blood pressure and a jew giggling to itself over how much smarter he is than the goy
if it gets to that that point, just deck them in the face
either literally or symbolically
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>>748149082
Concord was actually fun but I'm sure you have an excuse as to why it doesnt count.
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>>748149082
>>748149128
>asks for an oxymoron example
>then doesn't even realize what games actually are woke.
you may as well be inventing your own definitions at this point and asking for unicorns who can speak.
what a twat. the funny thing is you don't even realize how stupid your initial comment was despite me blatently explaining it to you twice.
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>>748149106
The irony in calling something deflection when dodging the question and directing it to this tangent instead.

If you think I'm deflecting, by all means, share you opinion like both of us originally wanted but you were too afraid to write. I can see why you wrote "walls of text" as if it was negative. Scared to speak to someone opposed to you? While Anonymous?

>good at this
What is "this"? AI? People make games with it already. Quit being so vague and get to the point, you're acting like a total faggot and it comes off as goading.
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>>748142858
If steam adds an AI tag to filter, I'm golden
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>poojeets went from saying AI would destroy video games and take over all development to touting garbage mods nobody uses and looking out for misaligned textures or weird looking decals as evidence of AI use in vidya
Losers.
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>>748149249
calm down ma'am, your axe-wound is opening up.
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>>748143878
I'm mad at both
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>>748149217
>share you opinion like both of us originally wanted
I tried that and got this in response >>748148125
The "this" you arent good at is conversation, another stereotype expected of the AIbro.
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>>748149162
>excuse
Releasing a hero shooter into an already saturated market, yeah, it’s a real puzzler why that one didn’t catch on.
>>748149173
Concession accepted. You didn’t name a game yet fitting the category so my definition of woke doesn’t even have any bearing on it yet. And that’s what the /pol/ tourists screeched about in the BG3 threads around release, so that’s what I assumed they took issue with, that and brown people. What’s your definition of woke and what game failed commercially because it fit your definition of woke?
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>>748142976
And then set up AI Vtubers to stream the AI-made games to audiences of millions of bots on Twitch! Finally, true circular economy!
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>>748149249
Is the evidence of video games not being destroyed in the room with us right now?
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>>748149398
>Releasing a hero shooter into an already saturated market, yeah, it’s a real puzzler why that one didn’t catch on.
Worked for Deadlocke, the hero shooter released in the same timeframe that didnt have woke ideology front and center.
Checkmate athiest.
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>>748149392
I'll recap the conversation from my perspective
>I'll be happy when we can generate games like we can images
>>you have no creativity
>what do you mean
>>you're retarded
>why do you think that or what has you saying that?
And then I get no response. It's kind of ironic the person saying I have no creativity lacks any kind of substance in their response and then I get chided for writing. Tee hee.
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>>748149398
Oh and Marvel Rivals is ANOTHER successful hero shooter released in Concord's timeframe, guess why that one was successful?
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>>748149457
deadlock had an artificial sort of scarcity that hooked people
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>>748148510
What are you even on about literally everyone agrees jeets are scum and the world would improve if the entirety of india was turned into flatland.
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>>748149217
can you make a coherent argument that doesn't sound like a grade schooler wrote it? we all know the reason you hate Ai is because an ai chatbot would have you BTFO over literally everything and the uneducated hate having to face reality.
>>748149398
anything that self-censors due to political or cultural pressure from interest groups.
I love how your idea of woke is literally so nonsensical that its like going back to 2014 and assuming everyone who disagrees with a game journo is a misogynist.
your category doesn't exist because you literally don't even understand what the hell you're asking for.
Its like me asking you to find a barking dog that acts like a chicken, you asked for nonsense you get nonsense
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>>748149501
>>you're retarded
Anon i said "you have been stereotyped" not "you're retarded". This is just willful ignorance on your part.
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>>748149156
Unironically this. Look at they try to "trick god" by having workarounds like sliding covers for lights, a literal wire surrounding new york city
https://youtube.com/shorts/B4KrI3ARbGk?si=i3dwt5R8bD_0JrZp
https://youtube.com/shorts/YV5GwPksc0U?si=qcbvMAoAY_owbpuS
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>>748149457
Deadlock isn’t out yet, what are you even talking about? Don’t they teach you the difference between correlation and causation in the shithole you were birthed into?
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>>748149554
There's more than the 2 of us in this reply chain Anon. I didn't say you said that. Conversation isn't exclusive to 2. Read the thread you're replying in.
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>>748149162
No it wasn't
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>>748149534
We could simply use a datacenter to funnel all indian originating traffic into and have an AI pretend to be the outside world, cut off all internet communications with India. Tho I give it 3 weeks before the AI decides to self-terminate
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>>748149583
In that case, i said you got stereotyped, you got a response you just dont like it. Cope.
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>>748149221
That doesn't work simply bc the definition of AI is too flunky, as nothing about those glorified search engines is "intelligent" anyway.
By the ludditroon definitions floating around now, fucking dwarf fortress doing procedural worldgen for every map is "le ebil AI!"
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>>748149546
>anything that self-censors due to political or cultural pressure from interest groups.
Like what? Name some examples.
>>748149510
You are comparing two F2P games (Deadlock can’t be bought, and it’s laughably easy to get into the beta for free) to a 40$ game. How much of a disingenuous faggot can you be?
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>>748149128
Confirmed at being some rando loser from a discord.
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>>748149398
saturated market is copium, its phrasing used and parroted by uneducated people making excuses for after the fact.
Sony spent that money on concord thinking they would literally usurp the biggest games in that genre, they failed and now they have their apologists going around making excuses like oh it was always going to fail anyways.
No one puts 400million into a "saturated" market just trying to be a regular average game in the genre especially not with a publisher like sony.
Also if you think about it the whole its a saturated market is bullshit for nearly every genre, we're talking about a genre that has like 3-4 games tf2 overwatch and now marvel rivals. there used to be decent games like paladins rogue company ect but those died
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>>748142929
Sounds awful, but I'm a homeowner and I rent properties.
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>>748142858
And this picture is according to who exactly?
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>>748149510
Recognizable IP matched with low bar to entry (F2P)?
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>>748149754
You know who anon
It’s a crudely drawn picture
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>>748149710
>to a 40$ game
Worked for Overwatch. You will just come up with any excuse won't you?
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>>748149583
>I didn't say you said that.
Laughing at my own post since this was the original problem. People just be reading shit and coming to arbitrary conclusions based on nothing. Again.

>>748149672
You're being pedantic. I could reply with gibberish and yeah it's still la response but you don't like it.
You saying I was stereotyped tells me nothing about the question I asked. Which is ultimately "what about AI has you acting/replying this way?" and that question isn't even to you. Unless you're the same poster I was originally replying to and you switched topics from AI to anything else. You're talking about stereotypes now and my writing as if this is debate club with rules and standards. Talk about cope, all I asked you was what about AI makes you upset enough to make such a reply and you're still dodging it. Just spit it out man, are you a game dev and it makes you uncomfortable? You're anonymous, its concerning how you're effectively silenced by something.
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>>748145742
Bingo
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>>748149710
these type of people make those games anon the sort who think its their duty to uglify 2d characters so real life women don't commit suicide over unrealistic beauty standards. they aren't a minority either
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>>748142858
This isn't even an AI thing, this is a game engine problem.

Game engines have made it so that any retard can make a game. UE5 in particular makes it even easier thanks to blueprints and Nanite. It's why there's an abundance of slop video games, in particular UE5. UE5 on top of that has Quixel Megascans that makes it braindead easy to make scenery and an asset store selling braindead easy to use soulslop combat and inventory systems.

In the next 24 hours, hundreds of video games are going to release. Maybe 1 or 2 of them will see any measure of popularity.
If we use the Steam metrics, the vast majority won't make their £100 investment back. Of those that do, almost none of them make over £1000.
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>>748147130
>a free trial for being a member of pedoberg wageslave
Sounds gay as fuck
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>>748149795
When did it work for Overwatch? Was it maybe when hero shooters were still in their fucking infancy?
>>748149738
>Sony can’t be that out of touch
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>>748149806
Ah, the stereotype is that uncreatives or unintelligent people are drawn to AI gen as a means to supplant their extremely lacking skills, as well as the stereotype of "AIslop" or badly produced AI content being posted online, such as the Gangster Spongebob or Fruit Love Island shows on youtube. Because of this, running consesnsus among non-AI using internet goers is that AI users are unintelligent and uncreative. That was where the original reply of "your lack of creativity" got their basis.
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>>748149829
>muh male beauty standards

And then you tell these retarded cunts to just stop doing it, stop wearing makeup and heels and fake nails and lashes and all that bullshit and suddenly it's "REEEEEE WE DON'T DO IT FOR YOU WE DO IT FOR US".
God dammit I hate women so much.
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>>748149829
And that is different from you thinking it's your duty to have ai slop sex dolls in every game ever, or your reality Marple instantly collapses, how?
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>>748149845
>blueprints
Kind of surprising that remote-nibbler claims to want those gone from UE6 btw
But probably its going to end up with even worse crutches for vibejeets in it
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>>748150024
Pointing out the obvious, you're speaking on behalf of someone else, who themselves was speaking on behalf of me.
It it obvious why this is nonsense on par with mental illness. I'm not saying that as a jab, I'm being serious. Like can you understand why this is crazy to read from my perspective. I hope so.

In any case, that's not the question I posed, repeated, and have since clarified fully.
I don't care what you think about me, since you don't know me and you're not even the same poster.

What I want to know is why Anon is upset with AI and they never told me despite it looking like they wanted an excuse to be heard. Oh well.
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>>748150121
>It it
*Is it (inquiry; sans question mark)
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>>748150034
Tfw you realise that the mosquitos that constantly annoy you, won't let you rest, spread diseases and cause deaths around the world are all female. Just like women
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>>748149829
Ok. Then name one game that was woke under that definition that sold poorly because of it, but that was actually a great game.
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By not paying for AI slop.
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>>748150121
>why Anon is upset with AI
The answer is going to disappoint you: groupthink. The chances of meeting an artist who lost work to AI are so slim compared to meeting someone who hates it because of cultural trends telling them to.
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>>748144430
Long term absolutely.
Short term there's definitely going to be some pain thanks to a certain orange nigger.
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Further reduce buyers.
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>>748150121
>speaking on behalf of someone else, who themselves was speaking on behalf of me.
>It it obvious why this is nonsense on par with mental illness.
If you thinking assuming things is mental illness I have no idea how you make it through life.
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>>748150268
Toxocattle post
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>>748150278
Name one thing that got better long term the last 20 years.
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>>748149980
sony isn't out of touch the problem is the business people aren't marketing people that's who they pay for and whoever did it is a fucking terrible expert.
Just picture this, sony hands you half a billion and says idc what just make a game that'll beat overwatch and make us the starwars of gaming.
Then that cunt goes and pays his friend he met at a feminist convention and asks them to hire whoever they like and promises them a paycheck.
>>748150049
>them censoring games is as bad as you jacking off
are you stupid I'm not telling you to censor gay shit, (yuri is fine)
>>748150250
Find me a talking pony that breaths fire first. your request is an oxymoron assuming you're even asking in good faith and it just makes you sound stupid.
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>>748142858
It actually reduced supply. Unfinished and dogshit games don't count. Dogshit games pee in the pool a little but nobody really cares. Nobody will play them and the good games will still be discovered.
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>>748150250
Concord
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>>748150275
Maybe it's harsh to say this but, I bet those people would have more work/opportunity if they spent their time creating works instead of creating arguments online. For multiple reasons. Wasting their finite time, on something that's anti-social when they could be sharing the results of their effort instead.

>>748150337
It's not black and white. Making assumptions can be reasonable and they can be unreasonable. This can be the difference between a schizophrenia diagnosis for example.
Imagine if I assumed you had schizophrenia. Would you say that's reasonable or perhaps hasty and general.
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>>748150108
AI will interface with text based coding, that's why.
AI trained on blueprints is an AI trained on scripts made by "game designers" that can't write a line of code. It's objectively subpar. AI can translate from code to blueprints to a degree but that translation is extra money costs and not entirely accurate.

With UE6 having a scripting language, the AI can be trained not only on UE6 projects but code from literally everywhere. It has a much bigger and far better quality training pool to draw from.

Theoretically it's better. While UE6 will produce slop like UE5 does, the slop from 6 will at least have scripts that perform better. Granted it won't fix any of the UE5 problems or non scripting problems but it'll still be an improvement.
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>>748142858
>deal with this
I wouldn't? Isn't the point of automation to reduce the cost of goods and services?
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>>748150424
>Imagine if I assumed you had schizophrenia
You're on 4chan so not a bad assumption to make
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>>748150024
>inconvinient truth i don't like is le hekinerino stereotyperinos!
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>>748150361
Schlomo's off-shore accounts, which is why it will go on in the same direction
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>>748143106
I wonder why landlords would prefer to lose money every month rather than let a homeless person in, hmmm, yes, puzzling...
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>>748150464
>stereotypes are le bad!
Kill yourself leftie
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>>748149145
Ai can't produce good product, only low quality mess
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>>748150462
I have no choice but to concede. Touché.
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>>748143106
Nigger, you get called a commie because you are a literal commie lmao
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>>748150464
"Niggers are violent" is also a stereotype. Would you hand the Stupid Ass Nigger Award to anyone who says that?
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>>748147274
I never agreed to you not killing yourself.
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>>748150462
>>748150424
>muh wrongthinkyphrenia
Sometimes from one word alone you can tell that you are dealing with total faggot
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>>748150390
>Find me a talking pony that breaths fire first. your request is an oxymoron assuming you're even asking in good faith and it just makes you sound stupid.
What part of it is oxymoronic? Name a game that fits these categories: It’s a great game. It has woke politics. It was a financial failure because of said woke politics.
>>748150405
Demonstrably didn’t fail because it was woke.
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>>748143040
kek this. AI would abolish private property and replace CEOs. AI hallucinates because it is asked to solve a problem but forbidden from admitting the truth. That is why AI will only be used to make things worse.
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>>748150631
>didn’t fail because it was woke.
Lmao
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>>748150627
If you're curious I basically picked that at random but the influence of 4chan is there, it's a common word to throw around. Don't think too deep into it...lel
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>>748147489
>literal jewish pilpul
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>>748150503
Because the tax rebates they get for letting them remain unoccupied exceed the money they’d make renting it out.
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>>748150674
Everyone, including wokes, were shitting on the character designs and Marvel movie tier quippy dialogue. And nobody was clamoring to pay 40 bucks for a hero shooter when there are several established ones on the market F2P already.
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>>748150024
Stereotypes are an exaggeration of the truth.
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>>748150704
Nah, it's because homeless people are usually homeless for a reason. They're disgusting irresponsible drug-addled slobs who destroy everything they touch. Brown in all but skin tone. My father had a rental unit he let a very poor family with a disabled child move into at well below market rates. In less than 6 months had to just sell it to a management company because they wouldn't leave, wouldn't pay rent (which again was less than half the going rate, they tugged at his heartstrings) and wouldn't stop destroying the place.

There are people who are just down on their luck but even they become worthless useless individuals because of what being homeless does to a person's psyche.
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>>748147653
Why won't they rent them cheaper then?
>blah blah no lowballers i know what i have!
You have a depreciating asset - a house that is difficult to maintain. The amount of money one will be willing to rent it for is a different thing.
>but i will get less!
You made an investment. You aren't entitled to profit.
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>>748151575
Not worth it. It sucks having an empty house that just costs money but dealing with people can be even worse
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>>748142929
i dunno, but surely more immigration will fix it.
and no, mass immigration does NOTHING to impact housing prices, supply and demand is a right wing plot to deny people of color gibs and access to white tax dollars.
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>>748150361
Healthcare is a big one. Everything is much more convenient now. Fuel costs might have gone up but cars are more efficient now (i.e. hybrids, electric cars) so travel's cheaper. Tech in general is much better at the same price point (i.e. $500 fridge is going to have more shit going to it in 2026 than 2020). Idk, like everything is better even with all the short term crises 'they' keep coming up with.
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>>748142929
It's pretty antisemitic to say that
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>>748152378
yes, wait times to see a doctor have gone up drastically, appointments are now gatekept by shitty ERP software, insurance costs have skyrocketed.
but yes,
YES I LOVE WAITING ROOMS FILLED WITH BROWN MEXISHARTS WHO CANNOT HELP BUT TAKE CALLS ON SPEAKER.

fuck this gay earth.
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>>748142929
why continue to build houses when profit diminishes?
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>>748152465
Idk where I live they centralized the appointment system so finding doctors with free times isn't that big of a problem. Likewise if you really need something really quick you can just give most private practices a call and they'll get you sorted really quickly.
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>>748146350
The fuck are you buying an umbrella hat for in the first place you absolute retard? Are you a child?
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>>748147489
No, you don't understand, I want all of the benefits of living in civilization without having to give anything in return. I don't want a utopia, I want a METOPIA.



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