>starting zones are DEAD>cities have 80% less playersso the hype IS gone
>Locked Levels 1-20you can do that in a half a week.Probably a weekend if you're the type of guy who classic forever is made fun.People who never stopped playing classic wow.
>>748144925>half a week.Bro you can do that shit in a day.
>>748144084>everyone is a ADHD riddled spazztastic moron>make a group to play the game>take my time exploring and immerse myself>suddenly can't do content together because everybody else just rushes to endgameThis happened with classic launch in 2019, I'm not falling for it again.Players are the problem, their brains are fried by constant stimulation.
>>748145348It's still "mostly" WoW Classic, the game is about as a known entity as you can get. Unless Blizzard secretly changed entire quest chains and mob layouts throughout the whole world, of course you're going to get people speed running to the end. Blizzards practically trained people to assume the game doesn't start until endgame. That's their fault for that.
>>748145348This. Gonna be hilarious watching people realize they're never going back home, again.
Blizzards ability to cash in on nostalgia fags is pretty impressive. but forevers fate is that same as all the other classics servers they launched, raid logging into dead servers in a few months. it doesnt have the right loop like OSRS to keep players engaged
>>748145421>It's still "mostly" WoW Classic, the game is about as a known entity as you can get.Most of us didn't know some stuff about the world because we started post Cataclysm, but the fuckers went out of their way to spoil themselves before the release by watching and reading every guide known to man.
>>748144084Not paying 70 dollars for beta access
WoW is dead because it is a solved game. Back in 2004 you could go to goldshire and ERP for a single gold coin in the tavern.
>>748145348>This happened with classic launch in 2019, I'm not falling for it again.Yea it doesn't matter what you do, You can make fake lag to simulate dial up.You can add low poly models,You can recreate everything to the finest detail except one thing.You cannot recreate the players or rather the type of player who was playing wow at that time.Internet and how people process media is too different, to people looking up guides before playing is totally normal and to do anything else is inefficient and stupid.
>>748144084he was right
why the fuck would I play a wipe beta, it is like watching a movie trailer and being spoiled
>>748144084I am surprised people arent calling this WoW Fogever because its all I see each time watch a Twitch shill play it.
>>748144084In Mondey no less
>>748144084they fucked it by not letting players manually hop between layers like runescape worlds
>>748145732Yeah, and a fuckton of people did that to the Amazon MMO I've already forgotten the name of because it wasn't very good either. Just gonna have to face it, modernity has ensured people will deliberately spoil an experience for themselves by looking information up before they've even begun playing or seeing something. It is what it is.
>>748146139AI will fix this
What makes this different from season of discovery?
>>748146741its not temporary
OP is lying.
>>748144084We're definitely playing two different games.
>>748146741This time, it's Forever.
>starting zones are DEADThey could have solved this with one simple trick
What's the forever stand for here? Forever level 60? lmao
>>748150118Forever as in "wow has been around for over 20 years and no MMO has beat it yet"
>2005: WoW is dead!!!>2006: WoW is dead!!!>2007: WoW is dead!!!>2008: WoW is dead!!!>2009: WoW is dead!!!>2010: WoW is dead!!!>2011: WoW is dead!!!>2012: WoW is dead!!!>2013: WoW is dead!!!>2014: WoW is dead!!!>2015: WoW is dead!!!>2016: WoW is dead!!!>2017: WoW is dead!!!>2018: WoW is dead!!!>2019: WoW is dead!!!>2020: WoW is dead!!!>2021: WoW is dead!!!>2022: WoW is dead!!!>2023: WoW is dead!!!>2024: WoW is dead!!!>2025: WoW is dead!!!>2026: WoW is dead!!!>2027: WoW is dead!!!>2028: WoW is dead!!!>2029: WoW is dead!!!>2030: WoW is dead!!!>2031: WoW is dead!!!>2032: WoW is dead!!!>2033: WoW is dead!!!>2034: WoW is dead!!!>2035: WoW is dead!!!>2036: WoW is dead!!!>2037: WoW is dead!!!>2038: WoW is dead!!!
>>748150523It was kinda dead from cata to classic.
>>748144084Damn, I guess they'll just have to give me a beta key to help liven things up.
>>748145348Raids wont be out until a month after release. It takes 11 days of casual gametime to reach max level. We're fucked.
can't wait until i'm an old corpse and my last continuous lucid thought before slipping into full post-awareness dementia is having a chuckle at people falling for WoW classic forever 2 reforged remake neuralink edition>>748149109imagine
>go to quest npc>2 paragraphs worth of reading just to say "collect 8 hearts from bears near the lake to the west">bear hearts are a 10% drop>spend most of your time waiting for respawnsHow this shit ever caught on is beyond me.
>>748150580>from cata to classic>still had 8+ million subs>"dead"
>>748145470>CLASSIC IS JUST NOSTALGIA, IT WILL BE DEAD IN A MONTH, JUST WAIT, YOU'LL SEEyeah yeah we heard it all before in 2019, /v/
>>748150523it died with the implementation of the group finder in wrath and it's been nothing but increasingly addicted subhumans playing ever sinceno amount of coping because it's the only thing of value you have going on in your miserable life will change that
What the fuck did they do to Wrath? I don't remember casting a million of time to kill one mob at level 10 in vanilla
>playing wow made you a social lepper back during my highschool so i intentionally avoided it>tried classic when it came out in 2019>it's garbage
>>748150963SoD died that fast and this is even more retail slop than that.
>>748151949everything is retail to you retards
>>748151191wrath always suckedbetter to use moon with some autos and a little wrathing, and bear
But will it really be forever? I kinda want a real forever game.
>>748151986No, just retail slop.
>>748151389nobody asked
>>748151389>playing wow made you a social lepper back during my highschoolin what year?when i was in highschool (2006-2008) pretty much everyone played some kind of MMO - wow, L2, RO, GWone dude even played EvE with his dad
Already did the two new dungeons and hit 20, nothing else to do besides wait for release. Hyped to play warlock though, 100% sure demo is gonna rape
I will never ever look up guides for World of Warcraft. I've seen people "playing" the game by meta gaming with guides and doing quests by following the speedrun arrow addon. This is not life. This is not healthy. I will never be like them.
I'm playing PVP and I literally can't get a tag on anything in silverpine forest I'm mostly just helping horde bank alliance. maybe you are on a dead layer. been loads of fun I've made a few friends
>>748146139AI will fix this but unironically
>>748152724>AI fixing anything
SOD was better
>>748153056this is just sod.
>>748146741SoD was unironically better. SoD with the forever graphics overhaul would be the better product.
>>748144084Seething turtle turdie tranny
They should have thrown in cata races along with the blue tranny elves
>>748152837is this real...
>>748152837AI would have fixed that
we're trying so hard to force the hate on this game huh
> it’s dead> it’s dead> it’s dead> it’s dead> it’s deadYou guys are worst than my 3 yr old.
>>748153056Only thing it needs is shaman/warlock tanks
>>748150963>yeah yeah we heard it all before in 2019And it wound up being true to no one's surprise.
>>748153806nope
>>748146139>>748146589 >>748152724>AI will fix thisThe Nexus is a lie. Live in reality you absolute faggots.
>WHY DOES THIS CLOSED BETA NOT HAVE 500 GORILLION PLAYERS>LE DEAD GAMEWhat causes this mental illness?
>>748144084It's a $70 beta.
>>748151191They nerfed lots of spells to make up for the fact that low level gear has spell damage now.But they nerfed Wrath way too hard and apparently haven't noticed yetjust go feral for now
>>748154317or $10 if you buy mcdonalds in australia
>>748146183Real classic hasn't been tried yet.
>>748146183>"you think you do but you don't">game launches to roughly 1 million players and even 7 fucking years later, has at least 300-400kyeah he was so totally wrongnobody wants classic
>>748153806>wound up being true
>>748145348almost like leveling is a bad system that segregates players retardedly
>20 years old game>monthly fee
>>748154641>nooo leveling bad just let me skip right to raid loggingGood news, there's a game for that, it's called retail
>>748144084It’s just 1-20 on a beta. Nothing matters since it’s all going to be wiped. What do you want me to do?
>>748154702Monthly fee to reduce the amount of chinks and jeets and russians by 95%I'll gladly pay that.
>>748154496If classic was actually successful, we wouldn't have Forever and people going "this time for SURE"
>>748154869>if you make a sequel, that means the first game was not successful!
>>748154869or, you have Forever because of the success of Classic and Blizzard realizing "wow, maybe we should just give them what they want". keep the cope up tho the tanks are getting empty.
>>748154737They get lower prices, in most subscriptions.>>748144084Adding that new race still pisses me off.The retail UI also sucks.Else, it's fine. They made a abunch of changes and they had to, to make the game interesting again. This is just the beginning.Similar to dota, a game can be kept alive and get somewhat modernised without destroying it's essence.Just avoid adding more (((modern audience))) shit (modern video game dances, more shit races, other shit nobody asked for).
>>748154869We literally have Forever because woke foid daycare has been tasked with recreating classic, because of the stunning success of classic.
>>748154948>They get lower prices, in most subscriptions.Yeah, but having to pay in the first place keeps the majority of them playing on pservers.
Why is it that you think you NEED to play wow?It's not a good game no matter what form it takes. You can play better games and you only have to pay for those once (or pirate if you want).You CAN stop playing wow, it doesn't need to be a part of your personality.
>>748154948Don't worry, the blue elf recolors are pretty much the #1 most hated thing about it right now.
>>748144084let's look at the fat facts:>not a 20+ year old game>blizzard is dead for 20+ years>streamers, influencers, faggots, and body type>in-game shopwhat a true real (old school gamer) is looking for:>no in-game shop>heavy metal>jokes all around. jokes on everything.>hardcore orcs biting chunks off human enemies in battle>hardcore humans decapitating orcs in battleI think the true players did not get what they were looking for, because the company did not produce anything real gamers are looking for a quarter of a century now.
748155057>NOOOOO STOP PLAYING GAMES THAT I DON'T LIKEcope, xivtroon
>>748152359euro or coastal US? Americans specifically were allergic to MMOS during this time for some reason
>>748155101>"real" gamers
>>748150523True, but that has never stopped it from making money off of subhuman whales that have no reason to exist except funneling money into Activision-Blizzard.
>>748144084>game isnt even out>its fucking deadWhat did OP mean by this?
>>748155183It's just another xivtroon seething about the better game getting more attention.
>>748146139>Internet and how people process media is too different, to people looking up guides before playing is totally normal and to do anything else is inefficient and stupid.literally everyone I know other than my best friend and some other friend do this. I do not understand what kind of joy they achieve from doing this. you play an RPG and you nullify it by following a predetermined minmaxing guide
>>748155052I would be more willing to pay on private than on public.I don't like blizzard.Also, I like eastern euros, including russians.Much better than the westerners.Look at all the trash westerners play: League, fortnite, retail.Also all crybabies owned by modern HR and female dominated education.Look at all the stuff dominated by eastern europe: counter-strike, dota, hardcore wow.Eastern europeans actually have good taste in games.All the stuff westerners play just gets dumped down and filled with monetisation.And I say this as a german.
>>748155169shut up, cattle. nobody cares what goy have to say.>>748155221Palworld is/was pretty good, ngl.
>>748155254people who aren't winners desperately need to find success at something, succeeding in the most efficient way at the video game allows their brain to shut off the fact that they are not succeeding the most efficient way in real life, or not accumulating enough wins in real life
>>748155221How does that game live rent free in your head? No one has talked about it and yet you're seething about it. God damn, you poor retard.
>>748155085That IS what worries me.Blizzard still gives no fucks about its audience.I don't give a fuck if they want to ruin their game.If it was just me who hates it, clearly its my problem.
>>748155328>r-r-r-rent free!cope
Nice headcannon retard, zones are still brimming with life despite it being just a lvl 20 beta
>>748155023I always heard WoW was filled with woketards but at least on the PvP server, most people have been based with a good smattering of gigachuds. I have been pleasantly surprised.
>>748155254>>748155314>stop playing the game that way, you are doing it wrong and not having fun, you must only play the game MY way or you are doing it wrong!Genuine mental illness.
>>748144084We're so fucking back!
>>748155221many such cases
>>748155409you're not playing it your own way you dumb cattle, that's the problem.
Betabros, join <wowfg> on PvP Horde now. Guild open to all anons so that we can explore Azeroth together, currently at 34 members and 4 online. Here is a video of us clearing the Ruins of Lordaeron https://streamable.com/r5tg6w (spoilers for dungeon). Guild will be on EU on release, whisper anyone for ginvite: /who g-"wowfg"
>>748146139>>748155254blizzcucks has fallen behind and they will never recover. in this, there are nos signs of being forced to use AI by their jeet masters.Jokes aside, AI is the future of video games, including all of the "MMOs". A player can not really tell whether some other character running around the open world is human, nor should he.AI "players" will create all of the missing experience of the MMOs. It is the AI how the AI in games was meant to be, but with little/no effort from the devs and without ruining the game, since these agents should be server side anyway.TL;DR: Implement AI player charcters yesteday or wow ded.
>>748144084IDK where you live anon but even right now (an hour before the wagies go home for the day) almost every zone from lvl 1-20 are packed with the lvl 20 zones being hotzones for PvP.
>>748155375Which is bizarre because blizzard entertainment itself is full of woke grifters and trolls remorse stricken xillennials.
>>748155309kill yourself, jew
>>748154496>blizz decreases server capacity to cut costs>h-haha look at how full every server is
>>748153616This. I miss Warlock/Shaman/Rogue tanking already.
>>748144084Im a bit bitter how it turned out. Also just want hc since everyone i grouped with sucks ass. reminds me of sod too much which i absolutely hated
>>748144084
>>748155896why are blizzard cultists like this?
>>748155738It's funny because the Nostalrius server core was still able to support more people in a single unsharded realm than blizzard's official servers.
>wake up>sky elves are still real
I haven't played WoW in over a decade. I skipped the last classic attempts. Is forever actually fun and fresh? Or is it standard nuBlizz garbage?
What in the hell are you trying to get us to play anyway, anon?>Sir, Forever, sir.Holy dogshit! Forever? Only shills and whites suffering from arrested development play Forever, Private Bolvar. And you don't look white to me, so that kind of narrows it down. Do you eat shit?>Sir, no sir!Do you poo in the loo?>Sir, no sir!I bet you're the kind of guy to shit in the street and not even have the goddamn common courtesy to wipe his hands. I'll be watching you!
I don't think any WoW can be fun now due to how people play and interact with these games. Not even the anti-datamining strategy they are going for will help. They already did too much to change or balance the game for them to not stop fucking with it.
Are private server fags still seething?
>>748156168the moment the shop goes live with the lvl 60 phase or whatever, numerous rmt bots will blatantly flood the servers. they're not as numerous now, but they still sell gold in exchange for blizzard balance or crypto.
>>748147040Crazily bad numbers
>>748154496> it’s dead guise!! I swear
>>748144968Maybe if you have no life
>>748155129A good chunk of guys at my Ohio high school played WoW. Even some dudes on the football team.And in grade school people fucking loved RS.I think you're just making things up.
>>748150523WoW didn't die, but Blizzard did
>>748157326or if you have... a day
WoW is finally dead! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIg6odS-fA0WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! BLIZZARD LOSES! WOW IS FINALLY FREE!
>>7481547375% is still millions
>>748150523Okay, marketer-kun.
>>748151389it was never for you normie trash
>>748152359I was mocked for paying for an MMO because everyone else around be played Runescape at the time.
>>748157489anon i'm sorry to say but you and all those other people you're talking about were the weirdos in your highschool, you might have autism if you didn't noticethe most obnoxious swagfag jock at our school played runescape but it was clear the other jocks and stacies considered him not one of them. From 2005-2010 and even on to later years circa 2012 you hide your powerlevel if you weren't a stupid autist, and you still hide your powerlevel if you aren't a stupid autist because the types of faggots who openly declare themselves gamers and MMO enjoyers are basically bottom of the barrel types
>>748144084All they had to do is make actual High Elves and Ogres.
Imagine giving it the title "Forever" and you immediately add sky elves as the first major addition. The sky elf starting area by the way does not fit in with the other starting areas at all, not even remotely. It looks like something from Cataclysm. The stupidity is legendary.
>>748158130>dear wow players we know that for years, you have abhorred some of the story choices we've made since classic and decried them as out of place>so the first thing we did for this amended version of wow that will take a better, more sensible path for the story is add blueberry elves that lived in the elemental plane of air for a thousand years that were never mentioned or hinted at beforeOoooh, my blast status is toggled.
>>748145348not true, i played for months with people everywhere during classic launch
Classic WoW will outlive this, and the original WoW will out live them both.
over a million players for the beta alone
>>748145348Absolute and utter lies. India should be rangebanned and the IT centres that post this misinformation should be flattened like the buildings in Gaza, and the earth of the Indian tech centre should then be salted
you can really just type whatever the fuck you want into 4chan and get a bunch of dim bulb replies taking everything you wrote as sacrosanct
>>748145767Maybe YOU had to pay
>>748158130It's a title invented serendipitously by a group of bitter wokescolds who had to call the game they were making as todays foid daycare arts and crafts, but couldn't take their mind off their lamentable unmarried status.I imagine.
>>748145348>do some dungeons >people are chill and fun
>>748150523And to think, all of those after about 2009 have been true.
>>748158231ion’s lawyer speak about retail is painful to listen to
Why does forever cause so many pserver ESLs to seethe? Must be the price of admission lol
>>748158930yeah yeah forever is a blast and anyone who says anything negative about it is a seething [insert name]we get itchange the channel
>>748154869forever isn't a replacement for classic, it's a replacement for retail.
>>748144084TP to moonglade, no fewer than seventy druids between the summon location and the trainer.Yeah no the game is doing fine.
>>748159021Sorry you're eternally upset about anything new, everything is flawed so that means = bad.
>>748145348Yep. The game can't be saved because the playerbase can't be saved.
>>748158930Because the P-server autists don't know the optimal way to play anymore. All of the guides and videos they memorized to metagame the game out are no longer accurate or relevant.They might have to actually play the game now and they hate that.
>>748154869Classic was so successful Blizzard actually trashed Retail to make what is essentially WoW 2.
well it's a $60 paid beta, that will more than likely be wiped, and is level locked to 20 right now, though I think it's supposed to be expanded in a week's time?I mean, there's a couple hours content, dude, no way it was gonna be lively for weeks. Official release is probably gonna be pretty bustling, especially since it's no additional cost unless you want the new race. Just like classic it'll probably pull in shitloads of normalfags for a couple weeks till raiding pregame starts and then they give up cause no one actually wants to do all that, although removal/reduction of attunement is a step towards remedying that.
>>748159148i tried RestedXP, zoomers follow a checklist instead of playing, truly they have no soul
>>748150523Anon, you have to realize that a significant chunk of posts shitting on the game are actual, unironic sour grapes from brownoids who can't afford a subscription.
T H R E E M O N T H SThat's how long it should take to get to 60. 40 hours a week, playing every single day, and add in two weeks of gold grinding for a mount. It's about the journey, not the destination. Angry gamerdad without much time to play? Too bad, for you lvl 30 is endgame and you wouldn't be any good at lvl 60 content anyways.
>>748145348the entire playerbase for wow forever are retail players
>>748144084but asmongold said wow was back
>>748156028>No setting kept adding new types of elves!>Except Middle Earth>And Forgotten Realms>And Dragonlance>And The Elder Scrolls>And Warhammer Fantasy>And Warhammer 40K>And PathfinderReminder Night Elves were an ever bigger asspull - you had to believe that civilizations that had submarines, steam-powered warships and fucking flying devices hadn't manage to discover two entire continents, one of them larger than Azeroth.
>>748159519wow i sure as fuck don't remember asking for a bunch of whataboutisms, transgendered elf player!
>>748159519the juxtaposition from WC1 to 2 is wildWC1 is evil orcs show up to kill humans, meanwhile one orc general does a cue using nothing but soldiersWC2 we now have oil, ships, helicopters also elves, gnomes, trolls and ogres exist btw
>>748159625It's not whataboutism when it's the same setting, you cretin. Warcraft was always just a giant pile of retcons.
>>748159509He killed his mom by force feeding her cigs and coke.
>>748159519>a continent larger than the planetwoah...
>>748159716Ogres are in WC1.
>>748159226Only worth it to try the three new dungeons and set up your UI/binds.
>>748159716The jump from W2 to W3 is even more jarring.>We kind of forgot there are several other continents.>And even more races around, like murlocks, gnolls etc.>The High Elves have kind of forgotten about being from Kalimdor, the Night Elves, the Burning Legion etc.>So did the Orcs, by the way.>>748159762Azeroth was originally the name of the continent, newfriend.
>>748159810true, I forgot the blackhand want to kill his daughter mission
>>748159716He does a snooker pole?
>>748159107your marketing language means nothing to us
What’s a good blizzard tattoo you guys recommend now that Forever is truly my retirement home.
>>748159859>daughter runs away with an ogre>I must kill herblizzard were too based back in the day
>>748159826I'm sure all the binding shit's gonna be wiped, what's the point in doing it now versus launch?I guess trying out the dungeons.
>>748159891Back to octowow chink, oh wait...
>>748159920You can save your binds via files and just load them in
>>748159910You should try like.. a star, maybe?Because you're such a special person! And everyone should know.
>>748159974Ah funny! Are you like a comedian irl?
>>748159910Don't puss out, get your favorite class icon tattooed on your neck
>>748160046It wasn't intended to be funny.
>>748159910Rainbow.Easy to explain away as christian and the symbol of the new covenant with god after the floods once the chuds win.
>>748159519haha, yeah, crazy
>>748159509he also said shadowlands was good so who really cares about what he's paid to say
>>748160106Europeans have discovered North America in the 11th century, newfriend. The Roman Empire was vaguely aware of the existence of South America.Meanwhile the civilizations in W2 have steam-powered warships.
>>748159827technically the elves on W2 are blood elves since they are from Quel'Thalas, you even have missions destroying it
This game exists for no one. It’s not classic. It’s not retail. I don’t get it
>>748159509sod did suck tho
>>748159827>>748159716I don't mind that because it's first and foremost a videogame. First one was about orcs and humans, for the second game they've added new fantasy races, and for the third they've did even more. From the lore perspective it could be weird, but not something unimaginable. The major point is that Kalimdor was really dungerous, night elfs don't like anyone in their forest, in wc3 they let you kill a base of both orcs and humans. And outside of night elfs there are many other dangerous things so no one wanted to make a new settlements there, that's actually one of the major points why Thrall's horde is fighting to survive there. While on Eastern Kingdoms almost all human's kigndoms had their own problem to deal with.
>>748160285The secret to selling a bad product is good marketing.
>>748159509it really do be like that
>>748159716dindu writers try to portray orcs as simple and tribal, other writers will portray them as organized and industrious
>>748160368I don’t think the marketing is very good. The trailer was very out of touch millennial coded then the ads themselves are like proto internet “everyone is playing it look at these celebrities (streamers)”
>>748160285The blue elfs, the blue elfs is new fomo.
>>748160478>I don’t think the marketing is very goodIn that case YOU are wrong, the streamers hyped this trash so hard it became a massive hit on twitch and the $60 beta was filled with people following the streamers everywhere.
they wrote a new quest and lore where its revealed that mankrik got cucked
>>748160478The marketing has been phenomenal.People are completely emperor's new clothing and failing to spot that this is a fork of retail made by the people who make retail.Everyone went deaf when they were on stage talking about the world mattering and it being sharded and layered with no servers.It is astonishing how positive the reception has been for this product no one asked for.
>>748160285it gives retailies something to do until 12.2
>>748160595mankirk bros, not like this
>>748160595white human paladin bulls win again, poor little green boy
>>748160595white man was here
>>748160595it's already implied his wife was raped to death bro
Think this would feel the same was Wrath shammys for raiding? minus the wolves.
>>748160478This game is for faggot millenials so the trailer is fitting
>>748160738knotted
>>748160895orc women are familiar with that
>>748160789try again in english, ranjeesh
I don't understand why everone on beta praised the graphic like it's the best thing ever. All I see is just a blur and high amount of fog. Seriously, I watched how someone just created a fresh undead character and the starting crypt looked liked a bathhouse filled with vapor. And yet all players share screenshots with many characters gathering together to look at the fog.
>>748160959Soulless onions golems who hype marvel moviesAnywhere else the volumetric fog is shit on but of course they HAVE to defend it
>>748160959the fog sucks /console volumeFog 0
>>748160959>playersyou mean reddit normies who take pictures of their screen with mobile phones?
>>748145348>>748146139>>748155254Relevanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKP1I7IocYUhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_play
>>748144084Its a beta dude...
>>748159762Azeroth was initially the name for the continent of the lower part of the eastern kingdoms WoWlet
>>748160956>ESL brain can't change 'was' to 'as'Must be a retarded retail main with brown hands
>>748161115there is a difference between sucking at retail (competitive game) and vanilla, a meme game designed from children 22 years ago.
>>748161171That's not what the video was about. It was about basically turning a world into soulless numbers>In a later publication, Taylor noted that instrumental play was frequently forced upon players by social norms (see above) in massively multiplayer online game (MMOG) World of Warcraft, a practice she hadn't observed in her prior study of EverQuest, another MMOG. She therefore began to question her previous assessment of instrumental play as quoted, as 'average' players were being coerced into rather involved practices.
>>748160285It's something in between, so if you missed out on the original wow experience, and you missed out on classic's hype, and you missed out on SoD, this is "The New Thing" that YOU can be a part of.That's my best guess for the marketing anyway, they seem to be learning that the "it's NEW!" factor is what drives normalfag interest.
>>748159362LMAO is this the newest cope?
how much does dual speccing cost?
>>748161171go decorate your house, Lilith
where is mankirks wife?
Convince me to play or not play this. I miss playing WoW with my friends but I left after the gayshit was cranked up to 11 in Shadowlands onward and I can never return to retail because of it. It doesn't matter how much I miss my characters and everything I worked for, I simply cannot stand the thought of playing with scaly and furfaggots doing quests to help reunite gay centaurs or whatever. WoW Forever is a clean slate, so to speak, but the blue elves seem like it's just going to be Retail 2. Thoughts?
>>748161685she needs some alone time with her male human and dwarf friends
>>748161637>campfire sitting tranny bitching about housinglmao forever is tranny cozycore
>>748161740Go fuck yourself
>>748161319In the 70s a particular drinks vendor had a vast surplus of whiskey they could not sell.A marketing firm was tasked with finding a way to sell the whiskey, and what they came up with was the creation of a new product that combined and diluted the whiskey with cheap vegetable oil emulsified cream and cocoa.This is the origin of Baileys and it was so successful, despite being horrid slop made for nobody, it became a product in its own right.Now fast forward to today. Blizzard is a massive company filled with wokescold xillennial artists and writers who have no useful work to do. You are tasked with finding them something to do to justify their jewish daycare jobs.You could do significantly worse than making cynical product World of Warcraft Forever.
>>748161839I'm not sure why that post triggered you unless you are an unironic faggot?
>>748161740Didn't you check out Classic? It really is filled with speedrunning meta faggots. If you find an extra chilled out guild in Forever it might be alright. Personally I'm interested in it just for new level 60 dungeons that hopefully are very difficult and take time to gear up for.
>>748160572Twitch is pretty irrelevant nowadays especially for mmos, I remember new world or whatever had oh my science a trillion twitch views, no one cares, and that was years ago
>>748160627Bro even reddit is shitting on it
>>748154361>australiaare there even oceanic servers?
>maybe i'll play a paladin since they might add healing gear that isnt a fucking dress>remember leveling 1-60 is just auto atk with a seal upscrap that
>>748161915I actually skipped out on classic because when it was new I could tell it would not be the experience WoW really was back in the day. The writing was already on the wall from the get go that it would be filled with speedruntrannies and clout chasers that were too young to play WoW during it's peak and wanted to say they were "there". Plus there was this inescapable feeling once they started up with a new classic for every expansion that no matter what it was always inescapably headed towards the grim gay future of Fagonflight
>>748162087But random items being overpowered is very classic?
Skyborn would have been fine if they made unique models for them. Bloodelf recolor is just lazy as fuck.
>>748161740New quests are good and so far cookie cutter shit is minimal In new quests Defias brotherhood is poisoning wells in westfall for example, so they are not afraid to keep things grounded
>>748161115>folding ideasisn't he extremely gay?
>>748162087painfully accurate
>>748159738No he didn't you fucking retard troglodyte
>>748144084This unironically feels like the Chinese version of Maplestory Classic.>Announced>Within weeks, it's released>Initial record-breaking playercount>A day later, complaints start rolling in about changes that happened>Another day passes and people discover things are broken or now require additional cash to do>By the third day 90% of the players quit because of these issues and the only ones left are bot farmers
>>748161740Same devs, same management, it will end the same way. They can't help themselves.
It's the honeymoon phase.Right now it's 15 redditors sitting around a campfire talking about how they are literally crying right now and WoW is so back while they buff each other.Two months from now it's 2 WoW addicts sitting around a fire while one calls the other a nigger for not putting down the profession buff he needs and tells him to kill himself.You can change the world, the quests, and the models. but you cannot change the average WoW players.There's already hundreds long post threads on the forums playing hall monitor about everyone elses names.
>>748144084>The beta has an initial 20 level cap>Battlegrounds aren't in yet>Beta characters are going to get wiped on release>"Forever is already DEAD!"Even if you hate Forever, you have to admit that this is disingenuous.
Just play Octo lol.
>>748162686Outside of new elfs it looks exactly like private server that tried to add new things from later expansions. But blue elfs looks like post-shadowland pure absolutely gayness.
>>748151389its sad how you wouldnt dare let yourself enjoy something or try something new due to the opinions of people you dont know who didnt even care about you, and have long since forgotten you.
>>748162831did they get the old devs on board so they can make new content or is it just pre kara patch forever
>>748161740You're insane if you don't think WoW Forever will be pozzed to hell.The beta only goes to level 20. There's probably several quests waiting in the new zones at higher levels to go get cock rings for Miguel's husband. Or to help some Furbolgs organize a gay pride parade. Or to officiate a wedding between two harpies.Or do we seriously think this smaller group of Californian liberals are going to make less gay content than that larger group of Californian liberals that work down the hall?
>>748162493It's just the 59345th iteration of this same story.
>>748161873Cry me a river fucking queer
>>748160595>you end up finding and bringing Mankrik's wife son to him, half quilboar half orc>Mankrik accepts him, asks you to make him bracelet of friendship>we must be better orcshe said it
>>748162224It doesn't even make any sense because the lore they tried to push for them is that they're Highborne, not High Elves. So like the Shendralar.Which look like Night Elves.Why the fuck do they have Blood Elf bodies?
>>748161740Delete your Battlenet coward.You won't. You'll still give Hamburger Helper a paycheck for Diablo 5.
Does anybody find it incredibly depressing how every time there is a new WoW vanilla release there are a bunch of, now 40 year olds, desperately trying to relive their childhood through a bad videogame that will never have the society and community necessary to create the kind of experience they remember it having when they were half their current age?
>>748163101A little.
>>748163101Just you faggot.
>>748163101It’s actually sadder now, it’s third world zoomers larping as 40 year old millennials because their fantasy is having the childhood millennials had, living vicariously through streamers
>>748163029But I do not care for the gays, anon, so your insults seem to be misdirected.
>>748163195See>>748161839
>>748155254While I also look down on those people, the unfortunate reality is that if you go into group content without having done it before on a vibes built character, you are likely going to be harassed and/or kicked.
>>748163101No because every one of them has the ability to grow up and move onWe all miss being kids, you dont have to larp as one. Its like the tiktok women who are obsessed with flip phones and iPad nanos because they still cant accept theyre not 16 anymore
>>748163092Shan't. Still like WCIII and D2.
>>748161740if you won't be playing with friends, not worth it imoyou could make new friends, but online people are not interested in that in this day and agei realized that in classic 2019, i didn't miss wow, i missed playing with my group of back then
>>748163256Alright so you ARE an unironic homo. Very sad. Get well soon! (Or 41%, that would be preferable)
>>748162865I think the blue elves are not as bad as the ultra quality mounts.
>>748163417See>>748161839
>>748161559Ranjesh, you've been bitching about the game for 15 years. Nobody normal spams threads about a game they have no interest in.
>>748163510i spam wow threads and ive never played wow
>>748163195>>748161740>>748163417Can’t go a single wow thread without either an avatarfagging furry or an ai slopper
>>748163101I don't mind playing the same game that I like. Sometimes I want to level up a new character in WoW, even thought it'll be the exact same expirience, but I like the world and gameplay of certain classes. But I'm absolutely don't feel the hype of some streamers/players. They are trying too hard to shill it, I feel very disconected from the main crowd. In my opinion WoW Forever isn't bad (yet), but there is no way I'll pay for blue elfs and early beta. And without strong criticism blizzard would just ruin it again.
>>748161740Has potential and the new content is fun, only way to see is how the 60 endgame is. You also won't get a genuine opinion on /v/ because it's all anti-woketards who can't find joy in anythingb
>>748163547I have made it clear since the first post I am not fond of furries. It's called a reaction image, little one. It's meant to get a chuckle out of your fellow anon. Man, I hate what sensitive little fags this place is filled with now
>>748163510I wouldn’t be here if you didn’t spam the catalogue and inform me on every single thing asmongold does without my consent
>>748144084Crazy how they tried to copy Everquest Legends and fucked up literally every aspect.
retards who give blizzard money in 2026 deserve everything they get.
>>748163101Any pity I might have originally felt for them was replaced by schadenfreude after the 9 other times I told them what was going to happen (it did happen and they just angrily called me names for it.
>>748163657You aren’t funny, furshitter loser. Fucking kill yourself.
>>748163764Oh, it's (You) again kek. 41% sooner than later, your family will be relieved!
>>748163639>only way to see is how the 60 endgame is.That's why I'm worried their idea of horizontal progression is really bad based on what they said:>ultra rare chase raid items>+damage vs worgen/dragon/etc>+damage if you're inside a cave/forest/etc
>>748163813What the ESL is this shit
the only thing I hate about this shit is streamers with their drones, they should make layers for those faggots already so they can suck each other's dicks for the love of their bald man,
>>748163738At least a month of solid fun?Cool.
>>748163914You don't stumble into Asmon layer, you literally need to be invited to it. If you're complaining about encountering him then you sought him out.
>>748163697Guptra Deeksuk saar, we all know you're the one spamming these threads.
I haven't played wow since mists, what is "layering"? I'm sure I interacted with it and just don't remember or maybe I'm a retard and forgot.It sounds like instancing?
>>748164104>Gulpra DeepsukThat name will go hard when the game launches.Good pick.
>>748164130>since mistsphasing but with a classic player friendly name
>>748159509Once the 'hype' dies down, he'll immediately lose interest, like always
>>748164130Sharding
>>748164130Farding
>>748164130it's separate instances for outdoor zones instead of just dungeons and raids.
>>748162505Asmongold 100% killed his mom. He’s part of night media. Him killing his mother is his humiliation ritual needed to keep him in the algorithm.
>>748163430At least they looks like something you'd expect to see in warcraft, there is some edgyness in them, even though they do clash visually with low-poly classic characters. Blue elfs are just gay, even their druid forms are reeks of gayness.
>>748163831>+damage vs worgen/dragon/etcThat's just so stupid. It's either not enough to matter or so much that poopsocks force you to grind/level alts/have 100 items on your bank for one boss fight.
>>748144084why would i pay $66 for a 4 week beta locked at level 20no thanks i'm playing aion 2
>>748164130Your world is but one of many, the fabric wavers and relations shift and obscure.
>>748164354>At least they looks like something you'd expect to see in warcraftYeah but they just look too good like imagine you lvl to 40 buy your first shitty horse/wolf and then you see a forsaken paladin on his ultra hd retail mount.>>748164408Yeah it's a terrible idea made to keep parsefags busy.
>>748164437Do beta characters even carry over to live when it releases?
>>748164408yup and it would have to be a significant bonus if it replaces another item more generalized set effect or whatever so it will probably be mandatory. just a bad half-baked idea
how is everyone here getting into the beta
>>748164408It's just more bag clutter.Now the tubro autists will have a pair of gloves in their bags that they'll switch to when they run across Tanaris because it gives 2% more mount speed in the desert.Or a pair of boots they'll hold onto because they get 2% more damage against satyrs there's Satyr's in Hyjal.Crap like that.I think they said they upped bank space to like 96 slots? That's insane for this setting.And you can be sure you'll work up to 30 slot bags.They intend out of the gate to clutter the hell out of your bags with niche garbage and currency like SoD did.
>>748164484Nope, thats why I'm still pushing keys. Gonna drop retail when it comes out
>>748164539they are selling the beta
>>74816453910 dollars of food waste in australia
>>748164539Macdanooj
>>748164539you buy in for $66 or do the australian mcdonalds trick for $10 if that still works, your bank might freeze your account for fraud prevention if you do the latter though
>>748164546>I think they said they upped bank space to like 96 slots?no way
>>748164559Yeah. I mean have fun all the people who do want to test it out (i doubt anything is going to be changed immediately at this point anyway though) But I'll just wait till I can at least persist any progress.
>>748164598i have a motorola razer phone so i cant do the exploit
>>748164539I just opted in and they invited me.
what's better overall, vertical or horizontal progression? i've only played vertical mmos
>>748163101It's like you just really cannot accept that people might unironically enjoy this
>>748164460I agree, that's why I have a feeling like it's something from private server and someone donated on ultra epic mount. But between those two things I can deal with it. The visuals would clash anyway, I don't think that they would work a double work to make a low-poly/hd models for everything so players could toggle between them. Blizzard can barely make a content for retail wow, there is no way they wouldn't be lazy with development of Forever.
>>748164706vertical like every instance of world of warcrafthorizontal is not bad but like other people said its not looking good in forever
>>748164645Alright, I looked it up. I'm confident Aggrend shat our some insane number like 80 or 90 in an interview.But the actual result on the beta is 48 slots with 2 extra bag slots.48 is double the classic 24.And I'm confident they can increase that further down the line of player complaints about banks alts get too high.Or if Aggrend doesn't have enough room on his Paladin.
Cities don't have 80% less players.They have 80% FEWER players.Players are countable, there's no fractional player.
Blue elf druid is silly. If you're going to rape the lore that hard and go so mask off about it, just go all the way.Give me Gnome Druid.
>>748159509But this is accurate. SoD was basically "Okay take vanilla but throw in some retail spells completely at random and maybe move some mobs around in 1-2 dungeons." Forever is at least an 'attempt' at classic+.
>>748164706What sounds better for you? Vertical means you always have a treadmill to run on everytime you return to the game after a break. If you're goal oriented, you might prefer that to the freedom of horizontal prog.
>>748164742>Blizzard can barely make a content for retail wow, there is no way they wouldn't be lazy with development of Forever.Blizzard is now making the models for both games just look at the hyjal items those are literally retail items and will be reused and forever paladin forsaken mount will be used for retail as well.>>748164770Yeah 48 is a lot and they are increasing the bank as well.
>>748164701Where do you opt in?
I just think the blue elf girl is cute. simple as.
>>748147040What rival company do you think OP works for? Square? Since they already have plants in online WoW discussions, seems on brand.
>>748164878Pretty much. It's the same with Forsaken Paladins running around eating corpses. At that point might as well unlock all classes.
>>748162087They already said they're nerfing the blue items, thats what the beta is for. But yeah the elves cant go back into the box, blame Metzen.
>>748164706The most popular MMOs (retail and xiv) are vertical progressionDead shit mmos (gw2 and eso) are horizontal
>>748163101>Does anybody find it incredibly depressing how every time there is a new WoW vanilla release there are a bunch of, now 40 year olds, desperately trying to relive their childhoodYou had a really bad wow addiction and it nearly destroyed your life huh? or did it actually destroy it? So now you're getting PTSD and type out these cringy posts to make sure you won't reinstall and go back to square one?Anyway, r8&h8 my pvpbuilds.
Reminder everyone who complains about Classic+ is a 3rd worlder.
I'm just going to go full Blood Elf and run around screaming about Kael'thas and Silvermoon just to piss off lorefags.
>>748164706I like how ESO did it. They essentially have both.They have a low level cap that's never been raised and new gear is not better than old stuff, it just has different set bonuses and stuff like that.But it also has a perk system at level cap that lets your character keep growing stronger by miniscule amounts. Shit like 1% more stamina regeneration and things like that.
>>748164974Everyone playing classic+ is a third worlder
>>748164967Why are wow players so hysteric and dramatic, what a gay post
On release should I play Horde or Alliance?
>>748164895https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/forever top right corner.
>>748164974>It's shit because it costs MONEY!Sounds about right.
>>748165042Stay in the instanced Blue elf starter zone and find a way to reach 60 there.Name yourself "Blue Balled" and hope they name an npc after you in 6 years.
>>748144084I just wish the writing was good.>>748150523It's dead. It's essentially used as a dating app in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.Lucky for them the other MMOs are even deader. I mean who is there outside that could compete with them? SWTOR? Their writing is worse (this is EAware we are talking about)Guild Wars? Killed by Korean greed and replaced by a worse sequel.EverQuest 2? Haven't heard from them in a long time.There is no MMO that is as engaging as WoW, even though I wish I could strangle the writers for their bullshit.
>>748165009wowf is doing something like that, right? with the legacy points or something
>>748164967lol holy projection
>>748165069Thanks, there is no link on the battle.net page for whatever reason
>>748165040>>748165125bullseye, huh? :^) You both really got btfo'd by WoW 10-15-20 years ago.
>>748164025You kidding? Right, there are like 15 guilds made up of Olympus, each one asking in trade for an invitation to their layers.
>>748164967>pvp in classicdo people really?
>>748160106remove africa and india next time so we get a perfect world map
>>748165125new pally talent?
>>748165094Blue elfs are horde/alliance from the start, there is no questline where you pick a side. So essentially it's like leveling up blood elf in Ghostland until level cap.
>>748165124sort of. the legacy system stuff is more like SWTORs where its just fluff to boost alts and doesnt function in any meaningful content.
>>748165197Yes and the nu-layering system binds familiar players and guilds together.If you don't join their guild you won't get layered with them.If you're being layered with them it's because you are interacting with them.
Look at how cute she is!
When will they fix the memory leak in the beta? My fps goes from 200 to 50 after like an hour of playing. Been like this since Day 1 of the Beta
>>748165240>it's like leveling up blood elf in Ghostland until level cap.You can walk out of Ghostlands and come back at any time you want.I assume once you leave their new Skywall intro, you can't return? If you could I just see every other race going there to harass them in protest.
>>748165256You can use legacy points to boost endgame harvesting and crafting. It doesn't give any straight stat bonuses but free elixirs are free elixirs.
>>748165362I was unironically shocked they allowed a cute elf after the abominations they presented in retail.
>>748164893i guess i like the idea of them adding new items and sets that open up different playstyles instead of being straight-up upgrades and invalidating everything that came before itfor example if they release new warlock sets that focus on each pet, or bizarre shit like shaman tank, stuff like thati don't know if they are doing exactly that though
>>748165572yea, okay
>>748164598elaborate pls
>>748165494>If you could I just see every other race going there to harass them in protest.>More brownoid headcanon.Yeah, I sure remember non-blood elves fleeing into Quel'Thalas in protest you have to buy an expansion to play them.
>>748162686skelf druids truly are an eyesore
>>748165572Are they bad in retail? I haven't even watched a WoW cinematic in, I don't even remember how many expansions.
>>748164993Everyone is shitting on these and rightfully so, but they do have some salvageable designs. After Dracthyr or whatever those drag queen scaly fucks were called this is almost a return to form, granted I know they are Blood Elves before Blizz went full woke. Also anon, do it on the Horde side for maximum keks
>>748165362Massive improvement over retail, even if this is not what people wanted.
>>748165572Look at >>748164993You can unironically make yourself a tight little blonde girl that runs around in a thong. The blue skin was just for the trailer.
>>748162087Why make new elves and not just split the high elves and blood elves?
>blue elf tummy
did anyone notice that 2 npcs male and female Skyborn elves have a fucking lisp. They hired VAs with lisps
>>748164295sacrificed his mother to moloch for fame, sad!
>>748165572Thank Chinese players
>>748144084If you play wow you support trannies and LGBT pride parades
>>748164295asmongold is retarded and had no idea that an oxygen tank+fire were able to explode, it wasnt his fault
>>748165657This is Liadrin.
>>748164701I didn't.
>>748165362>>748165729UGGGHHHH I'M CUMMING SO HARD TO THIS MEDIOCRE SHITI'M PIGGING OUT
>>748165982This, but not sarcastically.
I signed up for the Forever beta but im not subbed. Will you even get invited if you arent subbed, and can you play in the beta without being subbed? Otherwise im just gonna watch till it actually launches.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUN>STOP HAVING A BLAAAAAAAST>*proceeds to waste hours in every single wow thread*
>>748165709Because this leaves the design space of the existing High and Blood elves open. They've already stated that they're going to be re-implementing areas we've seen in retail differently in Forever. Instead of being a starter area, we could see a Quel'Thalas be a level 60 zone with a raid filled with actual Blood Elf supremacists or something.
will the beta characters be wiped once it ends?
do sky elves have their own starting area? I want do all the new things so I feel like I'm gonna have to play a new character on both sides to try out the extra 1000 quests
>>748166084Yeah they are going to copy-paste retail quelthalas and remove the void shit and now you have a new $30 mod.
>>748165729how long until a worgen knots her
>>748166149yes like 1-14
>>748165675How it's fucking return to form when it's literally the same fucking race from TBC? Maybe like 3 or 5 students worked for a new accessories/hairstyles for them and that's all.
>>748166129yes, level cap is currently 20, they will raise it to 30 soon, and then about a week before launch the beta ends, everything is wiped
>>748166050Im not subbed. I got invited and can play but it wont let me post on the forums.
>>748166065All I have to do is remind you every dollar you give blizzard supports trannies. Its funny watching you paypiggies cope about it.
>>748166315>proves my pointlmaoooo
>>748144084>WORLD OF WARCRAFT FOREVER>LIKE FOREVER DUDE! REMEMBER THE GOOD TIMES MY DUDE>JUST FORGET HOW MANY TIMES WE FUCKED OVER THE IP MY BROHey... hey. Remember nostalgia my bro!!!! WoW is life my dude!! Nevermind it took us 30 years to get to vanilla+! Bro yes skyborne elves are gay and paywalled as a micro but its all good! We R SO BAK
>>748166235thanks, I'm gonna wait until release then.
And where were those blue elfs when the void attacked the sacred sunwell and all elfs of the world gathered together to sing kumbaya?
>>748165649if you buy australian maccas you get a beta key
We're going home Forever and there is nothing you can do about it.
Are the sloots still at Goldshire Inn?
>>748166381Doing cute things, probably. Maybe a pillow fight slumber party?
>People just now seeing how fucking bad the retail models are I still can't believe they were never fixed.
>>748166381different alt universe
>>7481453487 more years of brainrot have made the 100-150 hour long classic WoW leveling grind seem like a long term goal to the average WoWtard, you'll see.
>>748166502example?I've been replaying 3, and I left on reforged graphics initially (the new ones don't seem to be available on old campaigns. But a bug kicked me back into the original graphics on the orc campaign and they were genuinely way more readable than the reforged graphics.
>>748166502Retail players are apathetic zombies who don't care about visuals, they only care about staying in the maze because it prevents them from thinking about real life.
>play for the weekend >have a blast>k I'll enjoy it again on launchits really that simple
>>748166065I wonder if it ever hurts shill posters to have to shit on themselves and their own identity to promote a mediocre Western product for a paltry sum of money.I guess they don't really have a sense of ethnic or national pride, but still, it sounds like a pretty grim state of affairs.And all that just to prop up some reheated Blizzardslop.
>>748166502Most of the time you wouldn't see it because of your gear, only very small amount of players who do RP or just highly autistic about their look/transmog cared about it.
>>748166613I was talking about the WoW models, the Definitive ones for WC3 are "fine" for the most part but the portraits don't have animations and it pisses me off. Abomination is still missing flies.
>>748163065Because BEs are the most played race. The skyborne speak Darnassian and should look like NEs, but lore integrity goes out the window when you're charging for something.
>>748161740I've been playing it every day. It's fun. It reminds me so much of the old days... All the zones are filled to the brim with people questing, everyone is riding boats again and helping each other out, there's big events each day when Asmon gets on because he calls his guild with like 10,000 people to Stormwind and it's total chaos but in a good way. Genuinely I'm having more fun than I've had playing WoW since high school, and I DID check back in for classic for about a year. Forever is a lot more fun so far. Just give it a shot anon!
>>748166084>>748165709High Elves and Blood Elves will be the Alliance/Horde parts of a new Neutral race with a starting zone in Quel'Thalas.
>>748166453thanks anonany australian anon wants a free bigmac?
>>748166621>>748166690Well, the worst examples I see are humans. But I was mad my orc lost his dark eyes with the update.
>>748166315>Every dollarYeah but its like a penny per dollar. I dislike them sure but im not chudpilled enough to get hung up on it.
>>748163065>>748166714Yada yada subsisting on elemental air magic made them more lithe and petite.
>>748166709Yeah I know you meant WoW, but do you have an example of the new vs old ones?
>>748166649>boiling alive with rage
>>748166714It instills a lot of hope for their future plans to faithfully build on the classic foundation in the classic spirit, rather than that misbegotten retail slop where they have .. uh.. purple blood elves that came out of nowhere and make no sense.
>>748166338>doesnt deny he supports tranniesI mean I already knew cause you still shill for this dead game, but who really proved who's point here?
Wow players really should just fucking end it.What the fuck is wrong with you people? Get some fucking help.
>>748145348There are people still leveling in Classic Anniversary right now you lying cock sucker. It doesn't take long to get a dungeon group at all.
>>748166789
>>748166825>Noooooo dont play this game I dislike you should only play the games I like
>>748166825Maybe this time I'll actually become 15 again and my hair will come back!!
>>748144084>>starting zones are DEADI'm literally leveling a character that's still at level 9 and everywhere I go it's packed full of people at euro hours.
>>748166823>dead gameso dead you feel the urge to spend your time posting in every wow forever thread lmao
>>748151949SoD didn't die until they announced no new updates.
>>748166803Do they supply you with a folder of cope memes to post, or is that just kind of something you have to organically source yourself?Lol, as if anything is organic about it.
>>748166825Anon theyre either hopelessly addicted and mentally unwell tranny lovers, or they're simply on blizzards payroll, why do you think we see 5 of these threads up at all times?
>>748166862People can cope but the old looks just as bad like Jesus the wow human are so fucking ugly and deformed.
>>748150649>It takes 11 days of casual gametime to reach max levellmao the fuck it does, your brain is fried by questie
>>748166928Keep seething and dancing for my amusement, monkey.
>>748166936I always hated WoW humans and how normal they look in comparison to WC3 with their huge jaws and muscles.
Are you planning to use general chat (and lfg) to actually look for groups to do dungeons with people, and chat with them while doing them?
>>748166084So Forever is gonna end up with the Alliance side having 3 different Elves, 2 of them sharing the same character model?Fuck off idiot, they clearly ditched the idea of High/Blood Elves for Alliance/Horde. Metzen is a retarded fucking girldad boomer and he should be nowhere near WoW lore, and I hope his fuck up on this (making the team ditch high/blood elves and go "wilder" with skyborne elves) will forever tarnish his reputation.
>>748161839Based lol
>>748166821Suramar not being sunk into the oceans/a mass of ruins is non-canon to vanilla where the dwarves got some of the stuff in the hall of explorers from the Ruins of Suramar.
>>748154869You're a genuine fucking moron.
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>>748166984fuck no I'll just use whatever website or discord server gets set up to automate the process. I fucking HATE having to sit and spam to get groups. Hated it back then, hate it now, I did my time in the fucking dunes in ffxi, never again.
>>748166880And your mom and dad will get back together. And the future will be bright and hopeful again. And you'll be blissfully ignorant again. And you'll feel like there's a chance you might find a beautiful woman you love, earn a lot of money with a job you don't mind doing, and raise a family in a magnificent and spacious home at a reasonable cost.
>>748166980The wc3 human paladin looks so fucking good but I wouldn't call the roided wow monster "normal"
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>>748166910I hope the money is worth it, and if you're not getting paid I sincerely feel bad for you anon, get well soon
>>748145348Agreed. I'll be going slow as fuck, reading everything, in the RP realm. I HOPE most people rush to the end, and then drop off when they've done everything. I can't wait for what this game will look like in 6 months once the hype dies and the core audience for Forever is left.
>>748166979But you're defensively flailing because the product you're paid to promote is under scrutiny?
>>748166757It's kinda more complex then it looks like, humans are always the most fluid in customization because of pretty much obvious reasons. All other fantazy races are exists in much more narrow archetypes. So when there is somethig is off with humans you'll spot the difference much faster.
>>748167103are you a bot or are those responses generated by AI?
>>748145348I never played classic but i will play forever and take my time doing things without rushing, i imagine many more will do it. I'm not gonna play the beta and ruin my fresh experience though
>>748167089gnome to goblina.Interesting...
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>>748166947that looks like utter clownerical jimmy neutron shit good grief, like he already blasted off
>>748167089there is no way you think the plastic doll looks good lmao
>>748167080It's still stylized but not like what I expected from Warcraft. Tauren having pupils also made them look too cute I thought. My expectations were set from what I knew from WC2-3 but it grew on me.
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>>748166980it's funny because aislop kinda made a good rendition of "updated" classic models and it preserved the whole bucket chin aesthetic that warcraft humans have
>>748155352I mean, would you care about your audience if quite literally ANYTHING you did didn't matter and they still gladly bought whatever you produced, no matter how much you fucked it up?
>>748167151>187x147make it bigger
>>748167172brownoid who can't afford a sub detected.
>>748167185No, I don't think the one on the right looks good, obviously.
>>748159081I'm OK with this
>>748155352>>748167269people say the smurfs are the most hated thing but the beta is filled to the brim with them.
>>748166723>there's big events each day when Asmonthe wow community is beyond saving
>>748167268It's because the AI and original ones have a set expression and the actual ones have neutral/relaxed ones. So it goes from a determined look to a neutral one.
Would've been my dungeon spam spec but I think I'm just going to try and get pvp gear.
thank god I'm eu and I'm not going to get sharded with that nigger asmongold
Crafting proffessions being very useful while leveling is great.I'm crafting new green gear every 3 levels, for every armor piece, and there's blue ones to craft too.In Classic blacksmith was worthless the entire time.
>>748166980The main reason I play horde because WoW humans sucks and I can't even play as basic knight with the sword and shield. All your gear are just painted other your characer and gloves, boots, shoulders+helm not enough to make it close even to this guy from wc3 alliance starting screen.
>>748152457People are sleeping on it hard, PvE and PvP
>>748167294>paying blizzard-activision for this
>>748159081I'm ok with that. I don't completely hate retail but it's just oversaturated with bad decisions and awful lore inclusions. I don't care about anything happening in retail, I just want to return to the simplicity of classic's worldbuilding.
>>748167432No! All professions should be useless except engineering! retail retail retail!
>>748167427Now you're sharded with retail echo cucks trying to win something after getting raped on retail 5 times in a row.
>>748144084The dooming is unreal. I paypigged the beta and like it. As of now the blues at 10 are weird. I'll probably hit 30 then go back to classic HC until it release then play forever until forever HC comes out. Self found btw
>>748167432does it feel like it trivializes drops and the dopamine of getting new gear?in classic there was lots of massive garbage in blacksmith but you could make some good stuff like that chest that could carry you like 20 levels
>>748167453Lmao brokego back to your private serverOH WAITYOU CAN'T LMAO
>>748167427Why are you even here?
>>748167435I love games where you can be monster races, Everquest had a ton. Only Alliance races I like are Dwarves and Worgen.
>>748167516>Self found btwwhat is it with trannies and their weird made-up arbitrary gameplay modes?
>>748167514>>748167546ok bot
>>748167538Dunno i'm just level 13 so far, but i crafted a lvl 11 green leather chest piece that is better than the one you get with the hogger quest.
Do RP Realms typically have better communities? What am I signing up for if I decide to join an RP one?
>>748167579players make shit up when there is nothing to do at max level
>>748167493But you're literally not returning to classic's worldbuilding because sky elves were never in classic.Why are people like you so quick to capitulate?
>>748167579Cope and seethe, dps manlet, I'm not letting you join our group. I've played deep prot since 2004 :)
>>748167131Neither, it's just legitimately sad this is the hill you people will die on.
It didn't even last a week.The blizzdrones fucking nosedived this. EvERyoNe wILl bE a ElFCongratulations no one will be playing with you!
How's this for a PvP healing priest?
>>748167723I'm not capitulating, I'm purposefully ignoring them like I'm pretty sure most people will since they cost $30 fucking dollars.
>>748167748isn't it sadder that you're actively spending time here doomposting instead of playing videogames?
>>748164539Australian McDonalds app
>>748166621>classic player>lecturing people about escapismClassic is just a cult, people are losing their minds over a reshader and fog. Kek.
>>748166338So you’re trans?
>>748146183Yeah, except Retail was running on fumes by Wrath IMO. They kept funneling players into story silos with a new token level cap and gear that made all your previous accomplishments worthless overnight. Making a mini-WoW with an ugly shared starter city where you can't communicate with half the players in game. Killing any chances for world interaction. Dungeon finder making instances even more detached from social interaction.Counting on their cinematics and dungeons to entice players. Except Marvel superhero storylines are nonsensicam in MMOs where you are one of thousands of similar characters.They had no clue what made Vanilla great. Only the self immolation of every MMO around them kept them going for so long.
So how is the questing 'experience' now? Are there new quests that are meaningful or cool in anyway? Or is it just 1000+ kill X niglets type of questing?
>>748167814Is this ai?
>>748167435they've added more polys to armor in retail and im sure that will be the basis for new sets in wowf too.
>>748167546Swear every zoomer idolizes that faggot to oblivion; it's like a cult.
I need to see the weather effects, I miss classic rain.
Here is your sky elf, bro.
Best part about Forever is how much it makes private server brownoids seetheNothing like reminding them I can afford a sub and they can'twe are so back
>>748167804No.YOU ARE STILL PAYING METZEN for his decision to include sky elves in the game, if you setup a subscription. You can't "just ignore it" - that's the game now. You're not playing classic, you're playing what retail was warped into being after all alternatives were exhausted. I mean you can do whatever the fuck you want, but you also don't know what kind of bullshit is further up the pipeline for this game. I personally nolifed WoW for years but I wouldn't go back to it now. W/e
>>748167940Hard to say since i haven't made it past goldshire/kharanos yet, but it's mostly the same sorta quests as classic but better organized, i.e. you don't have 3 quests in a row that take you into the kobold mine near the abbey also Jangolode mine absolutely requires a group since the spiders are elite mobs.
would you kiss a tauren on the lips?
>>748167185Went from plastic doll to plastic troll doll.
>>748167787Blizzard really has to stop with the streamer shilling, it low key kills their fucking game. Streamers chase trends they don’t make them.All streamer shilling does is very briefly advertise to the streamer’s pre existing audience. It kills the game because launch which should be about players and the game becomes an advertisement for something completely separate: steamers. It is absolutely a turn off for any normal player. Seeing chat full of streamer shit is almost identical to seeing it full of Chinese gold sellers. It just takes you completely out of it. But unlike gold sellers streamer simps don’t even stick around. All streamers do is fuck up launches then leave
>>748168143we get ityou can't afford a substay filtered
>>748165709Because they wanted to sell "content" with the collector and beta access so they included something that no one really wanted but would also mentally prepare you for their upcoming rounds of fleecing. They know that High Elves and Blood Elves will sell at $29 by themselves, no need to add anything else to them to sell gangbusters while the Smurf Elves wouldn't have been able to sell as much by themselves.
>>748144084liberal devs at bliz are insufferable faggots
>>748168143It's not a political election, you will probably get more out of this than games like Arc Raiders which are pretty dead now. I drop a sub, play it and if I don't like it I stop. It's not a moral problem.
>>748145348There are plenty of people to play with. Not saying those people aren't soulless and common, but last night I did Hall of Thanes for the first time, and I'd also never tanked a dungeon before because I usually play healer/dps, and my group was pleasant and didn't get mad or rush me despite making a lot of mistakes and going slow. Also the more those people rush to the end, the better so I don't have to really deal with them in-game. I've leveled like 4 level 60's since 2019 and I still take my time and don't optimize routes/gearing/leveling while playing. I probably ran back and forth between the auction house and the Dwarven district anvil like 7 times yesterday because I didn't feel like being an ipad grown NPC and looking up every new recipe and etc. Just play the game how you want and ignore those people. I still have more of an early mmo mindset where I like the living breathing world/chat room aspect.
>>748168276>40 years old>still trying to be an edgy faggotserves you right.
>>748166990thisblue elves basically ruined the chances of High Elves / Blood Elves ever being playable.
>>748168229>They know that High Elves and Blood Elves will sell at $29 by themselves$60* because they are adding two races not 1.
>>748165881so which past the wall blizzard roastie was this based on? all of them?
>>748168276Why is this shocking? I guess I just wonder how restrictive we're talking.
I got the 80$ bundle with the new race, costumes, 30 day game time and the new warcraft 3 expansion
>>748168160So maybe more elite group quests, i like that. I liked shit like that in redridge in that orc filled keep, or the hinterlands quests that took you all the way up an elite filled aztec temple. Hope testers ask for these experiences.
>>748168276And yet they will still let Assmongler play
>>748150649>11 days of casual gametime to reach max levelLmaoThe one upside to this is that people like you who've never leveled to 60 won't be able to dungeon boost or pay blizzard to boost.
>>748146183>allow bots and goldsellers to run rampant >see, classic sucked
>>748168481I liked when you got group invites and you just work together without having to really ask, it was fun.
>>748165475Yeah, it's pretty bad. I put my render scale to 75% instead of 100% at 2160P and it at least keeps 60 when it eventually crashes down from 200 fps.
>>748168276a nigga in stormwind named George Fluid started a trade and gifted me a watermelon
>>748168207thisAsmon is going to get mad at being griefed into near suicide by another shadow priest and he's going to start a trend that massively influences blizzard to cuck their design in some way. This is the classic cycle.
>>748144084I was just playing last night. Thunder Bluff (the least visited of the 3 Horde capitals in Vanilla) was very packed.Blacksmith trainer completely obscured by players. Fishing pond had dozens of players fishing. Every single elevator coming up/down from Mulgore had players on it. Players running around on every rise of of the city. I completed every single quest in the zone and aside from the cave escort (which has no quests lead to it) I was never alone in the world.Plenty wrong with Forever but lack of players isn't one of them.
>>748168404>>748168453>>748168496found the bitchmade liberals
>>748168586>Plenty wrong with Forevername 5 things
>>748168673Show me a character referencing Charlie Kirk.
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>>748168362This is insanely chatGPT coded
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>>748168276>Nooo my name nagger stomper!!!Just act normal for once
>>748146139>type of playerNobody wants to address this but WoW is for video game addicts. People don't want to admit to themselves that they are addicts but I've been around drug addicts my entire life and the behavior is the exact same. There are people who smoke weed in moderation, maybe they have a joint every other night or only smoke weed on Fridays, they let their bodies recover, take tolerance breaks and can handle being without it. Then there are weed addicts who smoke as much weed as they can get their hands on as fast as they can and freak out if they don't have it. Most of the pot smokers I've dealt with are addicts who think they're the responsible user and it's the same with WoW players. They can never get enough, the game is designed to get you addicted, it's got the same feedback loop as crack cocaine. Suggest taking a week long break, just a single week to a WoW player and this is out of the question. It's not even possible for them. They've played WoW every day for 15 years and the addiction builds upon itself because there are rewards for logging in every day.
>>748168276reddit is specially butthurt over people having silly namesfucking retards
>>748168420And now we know for certain it wasn't ineptitude, it was fully intentional, since the new Skyborn girl looks... very different.
>>748168673You would be on the floor crying if someone posted Charlie getting shot btw
>>748168405Blood elves shouldn't ever join the horde. Just create some other pretty race like dark elfs instead of blue faggots, or undead/vampire elfs would work too. Those typical faggy high elf would always clash with orcs, trolls, taurens and undead. You just can't make these work no matter how you try unless you make an actually edgy elfs to fit in.
>was looking forward to exploring and raiding with the pals>all the previously inactive trannies from 2019 classic are slowly coming back to join this guild
>>748168727>people who respond genuinely are "chatgpt coded"Honestly zoomers are chatgpt coded. You are are all bots with no social skills kr discernment. You can't even play a video game without your youtube daddy telling you exactly what to do. I can't wait for you guys to get psyopped into dying in Iran. There is no saving the ipad kid generations. I watched a zoomer wash dishes with clorox wipes the other day lmao. You guys are literally fucking retarded.
>>748168405>>748166990It's beyond obvious Blood Elves will become another Neutral race that can join either, probably the Alliance portion will be High Elves who refuse to consume fel magic while Blood Elves are full-on magical crackheads.
>>748168826yeah I think whatever Sylvanus is is more likely as a horde elf race.
>>748168926This is what I mean, chatgpt as fuck, even throwing in nonsense engagement bait Shoo faggot, learn English
>>748167340Because they are new.> They could add the option to play as donald trump.> Everybody would play as that> It still wouldn't be good for the game.
>>748168916>why is my fotm goyslop so popular?
>>748168916think of all the extra HRT theyve had since then. you might get lucky my son
>>748169045>Play a Trump main >Can't finish a dungeon
>>748168994Why didn't they do that in the first place instead of adding the OC tumblr race? Now we'll have 3 races with belf models and this is... a good thing somehow?
>>748169045>It still wouldn't be good for the game.I disagree just look at all the incels crying about >>748168276They would pay to play trump.
>>748168916They'll end up filtering out since they're flakes
>>748169094>Why didn't they do that in the first place instead of adding the OC tumblr race?Because that will bring in a wave of fresh players if they do that 6 months down the line.
>>748168801There is no way blizzard would let players pick names like German Painter or whatever, they'll ban them on any other server. And it's funny how players post screenshots of those name and say something like "BLIZZARD IS BACK! WOW IS SAVED!". It's literally a FOTM when blizzard just let you have some fun and be edgy teenager again until the release when they'll ban everything.
>>748169094Because that would require a starting zone and unique assets for them and sky elves only require one.
>>748169005Whatever you say, zoomer. Now go do the tiktok dance at the recruitment center with everybody else. Girls will think you're ick if you don't. Thank you for your service.
>>748169270They are already banning players in the beta
>>748169076by getting lucky you mean I'll be able to watch them hang themselves?
>>748169380Are they actually banning the paypigs?
>>748169202trannies are the biggest classic fans though
>>748169484Usually they just force you to change your name but probably some very offensive names like "Gaynigger Diefaggot" could be instabanned.
>>748169542Classic fans are 40 year old boomers, most troons don't make it past middle age
friendly reminder that the "draconian" (according to /v/ aka retard central) MMO allows stupid names like German Painter
>>748161740>post describing the disillusionment the average og WoW player felt as the game became more gay and lame>causes generational nuclear melty from particular tranny freaksI'm noticing
>>748170040Reminder that it doesn't because they're banning those people lmao. The system 'allowing it' doesn't mean that it's allowed by the rules or the jannies
>>748170040But do they allow Austrian Painter?
>>748168691Ok.>New profession recipes are too strong/easy to craft. Without going out of my way I was fully decked in blacksmith gear (except cloak). Better than all quest rewards. Also handed out 3 blue crafts at lvl 10, 2 with on-equip effects>Tuning is off for the additional abilites and streamlined talents we're given. Mobs are too easy, as a warrior I could take 3 at a time without dying.>Too much experience handed out. New quests/areas don't matter since you're already overleveling with the existing ones.>First aid lets you craft same health potions as alchemy.>Blue elves don't have standard models and look terribly out of place, especially their druid forms. Their magic boat drifting over Thunder Bluff looks silly.It's too streamlined to feel like Classic. Leveling so far feels like Wrath with heirlooms.
>>748170267Because those are people who signed on specifically because the game became gay and lame and targeted towards them
>>748170275Eydolph Critler is allowed
>>748170450it's allowed until you get mass reported and the ai bans you
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>>748170319also this >>748163831
>>748168404edgy is a term made up by nu-males who want to enforce a hugbox as the normmaking dark jokes and references wasn't anything out of the ordinary before your ilk tried to take over
>>748169641If their system can't detect that, it's their fault
>>748170789See >>748170507Even if you trick their system you won't fool other players.
