https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNypn7MoqoWow, this looks bad. Why is everything so bright and colorful? Seems like this remake misses the art direction of the original.
think they'll fix the ability to easily bhop away from every enemy?
>Enemy sees you>Slowly turns to look at you>Fot some reason, hops forward two short steps>Stops>Does an extremely half-assed lunge at you>RepeatWow how riveting, truly the GOAT.
The old game runs perfectly fine and has dozens of mods to make it look better than the remaster if you want to.Whats the point of this?
>>748147192can we stop pretending the original doesn't look like shit too?"new" being worse doesn't automatically make "old" good
>>748147360>Whats the point of this?making money from people who don't know any better like they did with the ss2 "remaster"
>>748147192>comments filled with nothing, but praiseShills, genuine fans or bots?
>>748147360>Whats the point of this?Console kiddies. Nightslop make most of their money from Switch etc
>>748147192Needs more marvel tier quips, there were really awkard moments where there was silence for a few seconds that gave me the ick.
>>748147360most people want things to work perfectly right out of the box. I see tons of negative reviews for old games because these fucks are too lazy to just download a zip file and extract it inside the game's folder.
>>748147360>runs perfectly fineIt doesn't>What's the point of this?Being able to play a game without having to rely on dozens of mods and some discord circlejerk just to get the game running.
>>748147360>just use mods!This is for the normal people, you buffoon. They won't care about your fan missions and 20 tweaks you have to configure manually, they just want to play the game, beat it and move on.
>>748147989Sometimes the journey is better than the destination.
>>748148060Playing the game? Beating it?? Oh my, how pedestrian!
>>748147587Almost every YouTube video is like that nowadays, negative comments are shadowbanned. Read about it, it's some dystopian shit. You type some negative weighed word like "unsub" and your comment goes through and you can see it, but no one else will.
>>748147975>most people want things to work perfectly right out of the boxThat's what the GOG version does, fuck it even has full controller support these days.Might unironically take some time off work to make a professional texture pack that actually understands Thiefs art direction and isn't just AI slop and put that out for the GOG version just to fuck with shartdive for being lazy hacks as usual.
>>748148164You'll get 1 hour into it and abandon the project.
>>748147360You'de be surprised how many people are saying "wow, cant wait to play this on game pad".
>>748148429Wait until you're 40 and slouching over the keyboard for hours causes you physical pain.
>>748148350>You'll get 1 hour into it and abandon the project.I've already put more than an hour into it a thousand times that into FM's.shartdive got an hour into AI upscaling textures before they abandoned the notion of giving a fuck about their craft
>>748147192Is there any reason why Nightdive isn't working alongside original devs on this? I mean it's not like the original devs wouldn't be willing to, I think they contributed to fan projects before.
>>748148429The GOG version of Thief already provides controller support out of the box. It even has a fucking item wheel.
>>748147192>remaster>looks basically the same
>>748148853remaster not remake, this is basically a professional texture pack + bug fixes + controller support
>>748148725>The GOG version of Thief already provides controller support out of the box. It even has a fucking item wheel.GOG version will be delisted.
>>748147360If anons need a comparison :https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WyChomn5h0k
>install thief>install tfix/t2fix>have a blastAn industry crash can't come soon enough
>>748148643>Is there any reason why Nightdive isn't working alongside original devs on this?No idea, they haven't even been contacted.
>>748147360Accessibility to current gamers, portable gameplay ( Switch) and normies don't aren't autistic enough to waste time on mods.
>>748147192I wish there was a thief like game but it's all about peeping on naked women and men
>>748147360every single nightdive remaster the same retarded questions, it's a port to a modern engine and bring it to more platforms, improve assets, new content and other stuff>The old game runs perfectly fineactually it doesn't not without tfix or tafferpatcher for 2 and they aren't included "out of the box" unlike newdark is for ss2 and you can thank nightdive for that because the original ss2 is unplayable on modern systems
>>748148643>>748149005>Watch trailer>Sees Nightdive logo along Eidos and Atari What the fuck are you guys talking about?That being said, the trailer looks like an alpha build, the door just pops/change illumination out of nowhere
>>748147975usually you need a few and you gotta mess around with the config files so it's definitely not that simple. it could take you an hour or two if the game is severely broken.
>>748148954It'll probably lose its own store page and be available as a "bonus" for buying the demaster. And people will defend that because you can still technically buy it, it'll just cost $30 instead of the previous sale price of $1.
>>748149087>and men
>>748149108Why lie?Thief Gold on GOG works absolutely fine out of the box.
>>748148060>This is for the normal people, you buffoonyou wanted to say gullible goygolems because clearly only a normal person knows how to install a mod nowadays, arcane forgotten knowledge>hey just want to play the game, beat it and move on.aka CONSOOOOOM, forget about what they just CONSOOOMED and the CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM some more just like the goycattle they are
>>748147192Will it have any new campaigns? >>748147360Consoles
>nightdive studio
>>748149108>actually it doesn't not without tfix or tafferpatcher for 2 and they aren't included "out of the box"lol ok nightdive
Besides Blood Fresh Supply most ND remasters have been decent
>>748149108>actually it doesn't not without tfix or tafferpatcher for 2 and they aren't included "out of the box"They've been playable for years, and GOG recently even updated Thief 1 to have controller support and EAX sounds properly configured and even a choice between TDP and Gold edition so people who hate thieves' guild can finally shut up.It has everything "out of the box" that you'd expect from a remaster, except AI upscaled textureslop.
>>748147192>modern attempt at a game>they make THI4F>a graphic novel is being made>the story is by the same people who did Legacy of Kain dirty>Thief remaster is being worked on>not with the OG devs and it looks like THISWHY IS THIS SERIES CURSED?
>>748147360console niggers, even shitdive is open about their main audience being consolefags >>748149108it literally works out of the box, you don't need tfix or anything elsethis is true for pretty much every old game btw, and if you encounter any problems it's nothing dgvoodoo cant easily fix. if you cant even do that, why are you on PC
>>748148164Comfy stairway. I wanna play a Layton game there with a cup of hot cider.
>>748147587genuine fans, but nightdive fans instead of thief fans
>>748149479I'd rather have Nightdive work on a remaster than someone like Aspyr or the jeets who did GTA remasters
>>748147360Normalfags who grew up with smartphones really think downloading patches and mods is some black magic shit that requires 5 hours of effort and a phd in computer science
>>748147360For me to play it on the switch while shitting.
>>748148978Good Lord.
>>748147192>[videogame] remastered
>>748148978>guards fail to notice you casting a huge shadow on a wall in front of themSometimes less is more.
>>748149207>gog>look under the hood>newdark>>748149359original version nah it's got all sorts of compatibility issues>>748149364they are all good except blade runner which is dogshit but I haven't bought recent ones because they became really expensive after atari acquired them
>shitdiveYeah it was always meant to be garbage
>>748150447Their Turok and Powerslave remasters are great
>>748150345Patch notes talked about implementing a dynamic shadows system - not about doing a full rework of the AI system, anon.
>>748150345>>748150949>New config variables>ai_aware_of_shadow <0, 1>>AI aware of player shadow. Default is 0.It's a toggle, off by default. Presumably because the game and its levels weren't designed with the player casting shadows in mind.
I don't want remasters anymore.
>>748152313That was not Nightdive
>>748147192>Why is everything so brightIt's made for consoles so it has to look playable on the cheapest LCD TVs.>and colorful?Looks less colorful than the original to me. The purple shadows baked into some textures like the doorway arch are gone and it looks like the hammerites have changed their old sovlful orange lamps to modern white LEDs.
>>748150345>>guards fail to notice you casting a huge shadow on a wall in front of them>Sometimes less is more.Guards actully do notice your shadow, but it's toggled off by default and it takes a bit of getting use to. I absoluely love it, but you really cannot approach things the same anymore and you really have to be observant of light sources and be thinking about where it's casting your shadow, especially when sneaking up on a guard, sometimes it'll even cast your shadow out of the room you're in and into a hallway and a guard up the hallway will see it and then come wandering in to look for you.
>>748147192>Why is everything so bright and colorfulmore colour depth to the textures
>>748147192>Why is everything so bright and colorful?Because it's a trailer and they want people to be able to see something other than black. Also because their textures are just AI slop.
>>748147192>that awful art>Garret won't shut upIt's like they dont undertand Thief at all.
>>748150413>>gog>>look under the hood>>newdarkAnd? The point is it works out of the box.>>nightslop>>look under the hood>>topkek engine>>fucks up things as basic as jump height routinely in it's shitty ports
>>748148954>GOG version will be delisted.Then I'll just host a torrent of it and share it on /t/
GET BACK HERR YOU TAFFER
>>748154230>waaah I don't like the fact that someone is taking the time to save a classic game>better act like a nigger and steal it!
>>748155685There's nothing to steal, I own the DLLs.
>>748155685>saveSave from what?
Is Garrett hallucinating during The Sword mission?
>>748156065>I own>video gamelollmfao>>748156078You lost neckbeards
>>748153063tbf it's a trailer - real Thief gameplay would just be Garrett standing still in the dark for 2 minutes while listening for a guards footsteps. Which is immersive and amazing when you play it but pretty fucking boring in a trailer.Looking Glass had the same problem when advertising it back in the day - watch the original trailers for it, they're very action-packed
>>748149557You just missed the three hidden hint coins in the stairway. Casual
>>748153063>Garret won't shut upIt's dialogue from the original game you retarded nigger.
>one of the Apparition's voice lines is "WUUUT?">each time I hear it I have the mental image of Mike Stoklasa doing it
>>748158538I literally own the bideo james althougheverbeitly.
>>748147192>non-stop quipsBravo Nightdive.
>>748158919They're actually Viktoria's voice lines from the cutscene where you give Constantine the eye, just played backwards.
>>748159353You should try actually playing Thief some time.
>>748149739>never modded a bethesda game or cyberpunk
>>748160230>You should try actually playing Thief some time.Are you implying non-stop quips are a staple of Thief? Seriously?Unless they were introduced in fucking THIAF which I haven't played that would be news to me faggot.
>>748160564https://youtu.be/63PZenT3yOAshut up retard
>>748147360Selling it to console normies?
>>748161017Are you retarded or merely pretending? Do you not understand the difference between quips ad quotes?
>>748161124Quips like this? 99% of quotes from movie classics would be considered "Marvel quips" nowadays.
>>748152838did you manage to properly set it up? can you please write a guide? i browsed ttlg but nothing worked , i install a fresh 1.26 gog version of thief 2 , i copy the contents of the newdark hwtl folder inside the game which include doc, mods , main.fxo, mainprocess and the exe.i add the commands posted in the threads on ttlg at the bottom of cam_ext and launch the game with thief2_htwl.exe but it doesn't change anything .
>>748161075How many normies are going to buy a 30yo stealth game with PS1 graphics?
>>748160260Yeah because I don't play slop.
>>748147360Consolegroids.
>>748147357game is not called Fighter
>>748162367>How many normies are going to buy a 30yo stealth game with PS1 graphics?Console zoomies gobble this shit up because they have a deep longing to be a part of something.
>>748147192They're going to make a new campaign for this remaster, so I'm kind of curious, but not a fan of how it looks..
>>748147192Unc Slop - Rematered.
>>748148508Try not being a fat fuck. The vast majority of age related pain and lack of energy is just from being out of shape amd sedentary.
>>748147192This is quite cherrypicked though, thats the undercover mission, its very well lit because it makes sneaking difficult, looked like that in the OG. That said, they didn’t really change any of the models so it just looks like a high texture retex its not very impressive looking in all honesty
>>748163197It lacks the grittiness look of the original.
>>748149138The vast majority of games, especially the ones actually worth playing are as simple as>put this in your game folder and override filesOr sometimes even simpler>click the exe, start the installer and just input your game folder
>>748147360>The old game runs perfectly fineIt doesn't.NewDark is way better than OldDark but it still has problems. In some missions certain scripts and objects won't work at higher framerates (example: pressure plates, some work, but not all).The best thing for the game would be source code release but maybe some actual good will come out of this remaster. It could mean better modding tools. If it becomes easier to add new creatures and effects into the game mods could get even crazier than they already are.
>>748163308>>748163197Thief was dark but had plenty of vibrant colours.
>>748147192What the fuck are you talking about? The trailer has pitch black shadows everywhere. It's just an uprezzed version of the 1998 game.
>>748165476Just cap your frames to 60, this is standard operating procedure for pretty much all old games to avoid things going retardo mode.
you are now manually remembering how shit the system shock 2 remaster was
>>748165563I hope the brightness is just cranked up for the trailer and it'll look different with normal settings.
>>748165624Gamers as tough as wet paper will reee just for reading this.
I hope this is a success and i hope a bunch of zoomer youtubers start making essays about how creepy and liminal Thief is just so i can see /v/ seethe about it.
>>748153063>>748159353the voice lines are for the trailer to explain what is happening to the people who are unfamiliar with the game, and you are stupid if you don't understand why this is necessaryyou and I might know what a gas arrow is, but a newcomer does not know if it's poison gas or sleep gas or whatever. a simple "goodnight" quote makes it clear what is happening. clarity is good for a trailer.Thief 2 even has "whoa, that light is too bright, I'd better use a water arrow to douse the torch" and "I can sneak up on that guard and knock him out while his back is turned" in the tutorial, which everyone would make fun of as "focus, G" dialogue now. the fan community has built up an identity around the games that isn't actually supported by the original games, like "Garret doesn't kill!" even though he kills people with arrows in the intro videos for both games
>>748165624It is not standard operating procedure for pretty much all old games. It is required, annoying, for *some* games. And it's not even required for Thief most of the time. I play through most FMs at 120fps with no problems.
>>748166182I just keep my shit capped to 60 because I play so many old games and you never know when something will go wrong.
>>748147773That makes them based in my book. Now I can play all these great games in my bed for $0. Haptic feedback feels good too, particularly with Blood.
>>748165918Zoomer here, the more spooky parts of Thief were great and are now my favourite part of FMs. Not like as a full horror experience but as a bit of added flavour.
>>748147192If I can't even disable texture filtering so the game looks closer to software rendering look of tdp then no buy
>>748160564Every line in the trailer is from the original game. Third world kids who want to complain about new games but don't actually play old games are a cancer on this board.
>>748165918But Thief does genuinely have creepy and unsettling atmosphere, especially a lot of FMs.
>>748162138Not him but it worked on my machine just like that. Did you actually check the correct lights?>Only dynamic lights and anim lights are supported as HWTL lights. For a better HWTL experience, many OMs and FMs need to be relit after the AnimLight property has been added to selected lights.So it only works with torches, flickering lights, lights that can be switched off and so on.
I saw 'Lady' van Vernon warming up the stable boy yesterday.
>>748160260>Bethesda Game>Where you literally just click "download with manager" on nexus, install the mod in MO2 and turn it onRetard
>>748169315>Where you literally just click "download with manager" on nexus, install the mod in MO2 and turn it onand guess what, there's a fuckton of tech illiterate retards that find this the hardest shit ever, modpacks are highly popular because these people don't know how to deal with conflicting mods/load orders
I hope the new campaign gets ported to the old game at least.
>>748167846i think ? can you post the stuff you added to the config?
